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May 11, 2025 56 mins

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There are leaders and there are followers. Thankfully, Fran Kick joins us this week to lead us through a delightful conversation. Granted, Peter, Phil and Chris DO get lost multiple times but Fran gracefully get us back on track. Check out Fran's amazing videos, resources, and books including the "Have to, Get to, Want to" video and article in the show notes!


Show Notes:
Learn more about Fran here:

https://www.kickitin.com/


Have to, Get to, Want to [YouTube video]

https://youtu.be/KtaMBeCjF3A


Have to, Get to, Want to [Article]

https://www.kickitin.com/have-to-get-to-want-to/


Recording Credits:

Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back - Luke Meets Yoda for the First Time [CLIP] | TNT


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