NT Framework - Glory versus Suffering

Ever wonder why so many expected the Messiah to topple Rome on arrival while the Gospels stress a cross before a crown? We walk through the Old Testament’s twin themes—suffering and glory—and show how that pattern reshapes expectations, faith, and the way we read the promises of God.

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Jeremy Thomas is the pastor at Spokane Bible Church in Spokane, Washington and a professor at Chafer Theological Seminary. He has been teaching the Bible for over 20 years, always seeking to present its truths in a clear and understandable manner. 

Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Welcome to Beyond the Walls with Jeremy Thomas and
our series on the New Testamentframework.
Today, a smaller, bite-sizedpiece from the larger lesson.
We hope you enjoy it.

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If you have uh Old Testament prophecy, there are
two types of prophecies.

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There are those that prophesy of the glories that are
to come and the sufferings thatMessiah had to go through.
Now they were looking this way,and they couldn't see the
sufferings in the Old Testament,but all they saw was the
glories.
So when the Messiah came, whatdid they expect?
He's going to usher in thekingdom, he's going to defeat

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the Roman Empire and set up hiskingdom.
So they're all looking at theglories.
And they're not seeing that theOld Testament also prophesied
his suffering.
1 Peter talks about this.
So let's look at 1 Peter chapter1, verse 10 and 11.
In other words, this meant thatthey had a distorted view,
right?
They didn't have a total, thetotal picture.

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1 Peter chapter 1.
Verse 10.
Now this talks about theprophets.

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They talked about both, right?
But they didn't understand howit all fit together in the
Messiah.
But by the time of the NewTestament, I mean they're just
looking for the glories.
You know, why can't you come anddestroy the Roman Empire and
just bring in the kingdom?
If you're really a Messiah,that's what you do.
They had the wrong, what I callmessianic profile.
It was only a half profile.
Verse 10.
As to this salvation, theprophets who prophesied of the

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grace that would come to youmade careful searches and
inquiries.
It's the Old Testament prophets.
Okay, they're trying tounderstand the Old Testament
prophecies.
Verse 11, seeking to know whatperson or time the Spirit of
Christ within them wasindicating as he predicted the
sufferings of Christ and theglories to follow.
So we know the Old Testamentpredicted both the sufferings as

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well as the glories to follow.
But in the New Testament pages,in the Gospels, they're thinking
only of the glories to follow.
And they're thinking, if you'rereally the Messiah, why haven't
you taken care of the RomanEmpire?

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Okay, to see this, let's turn to, let's see, let me
go back.
Let's go look at Luke 1.
Oh, no, let's go.
Luke 24.
Same book, just different.
Luke 24.

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This is on the road to Emmaus when Jesus was talking
with these guys.
Remember, they didn't recognizehim, right?

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Luke 24, 19 to 21.
19.
And he said to them as he'swalking along, you know, what
things?

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You know, what things have been going on around
Jerusalem?
What things are you talkingabout?
And they said to him, Well, thethings about Jesus the Nazarene,
who was a prophet, mighty indeedand word in the sight of God and
all the people.
And now the chief priests andour rulers delivered him to the
sentence of death and crucifiedhim.
But we were hoping it was he whowas going to redeem Israel.

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We thought it was going to be him, but well, he's
dead now.

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We thought he was going to do what?
We thought he was the one whowas going to bring in the
glories of the kingdom.
But he died.
See how they didn't have theright profile or expectation of
the Messiah?
This is one of the reasons theyrejected him.
The Gospel of Matthew is writtenfor this entire purpose, okay?
Because you have a group of Jewswho do believe in him.

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You know, Matthew, the otherguys, the apostles, and so
forth, other people.
But after Jesus died, he wasresurrected, we know, and he
ascended, right?
Well, unbelievers would say toJews, now, why are you believing
that Jesus is the Messiah ifMessiah's kingdom isn't here?

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This was the early argument madeagainst Jesus being the Messiah
by Jews.
Why are you believing Jesus isthe Messiah if Messiah's kingdom
is not here?
So the Gospel of Matthew waswritten for that purpose.
That is the entire purpose ofthe Gospel of Matthew.
To explain how Jesus actually isthe Messiah and how the kingdom

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was offered.
But the reason it's not here isbecause you rejected your
Messiah.
That's why the kingdom didn'tcome.
So that in a nutshell is thewhole argument of the Gospel of
Matthew.
And early Jews had to deal withthat argument that Jesus
couldn't be Messiah becauseMessiah's glorious kingdom isn't
here.
They didn't read the OldTestament right though, because

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the Old Testament predicted thatfirst he must suffer and then
reign in glory.
And we know how it works out.
He actually comes twice, right?
His first coming was to sufferon behalf of sin.
His second coming is to judgehis enemies and reign in glory.

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But they missed it.

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with Jeremy Thomas.
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