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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Beyond the
Walls with Jeremy Thomas and
our series on the New TestamentFramework.
Today a smaller, bite-sizedpiece from the larger lesson.
We hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Ancient these are, so
I put these up here so you can
look them up.
Meophysitism Now, these are notthe same, because these two
words I'm just putting them nextto one another because they do
have some similaritiesMonophysitism and modern day
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Krishna incarnations have youheard of that in the Eastern
religions?
Krishna incarnations, which isreally an evolutionary thing.
So you can see, this is goingto be an evolutionary type of
Jesus.
Okay, also held by liberal andpagan theology.
So this one is, let's just say,the farthest away from the
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biblical concept, because whenyou look at their presupposition
, you'll realize, or you shouldrealize right off the bat, this
won't work.
Okay, god and creation are one.
This is known as monism.
You know one, everything is one.
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And obviously you know the veryfirst thing that should come to
your mind is you know Genesis1.1, right, in the beginning,
god created the heavens and theearth.
They're not him, they're thecreature or creation.
It's separate from him, thecreator.
This is the very first thing wetaught in this whole framework
class.
I don't know, a year and a halfago.
Right Was the creator-creaturedistinction.
Okay, now, hopefully, all thisis going to start to make sense.
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I told you you have to do thewhole Old Testament before you
can really really get andunderstand the New Testament.
The very first truth that youlearn in the Bible is the
creator-creation distinction.
We put the creator in the openbox.
We put creation in a closed box.
Why do we do that?
We're just saying by the openbox that the creator is infinite
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, right, he's not limited.
We're just saying by the openbox that the Creator is infinite
, right, he's not limited.
And we're saying creation islimited.
Now, this is the first truth inthe Bible.
I mean you learn it in Genesis1.1, right In the beginning, god
created the heavens and theearth.
So we've got the Creator.
And then we've got the creation, which is the heavens and the
earth, and then he begins toform and fill the creation
during Creation Week.
So this is the most fundamentaltruth in the Bible.
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What is happening in JesusChrist Isn't the Creator taking
to Himself the creature?
What do we have?
Let's just draw a line here.
Like we're talking about the,we still have the Creator.
He is the Creator.
Right by Him, all things weremade.
He sustains all things.
He's the creator.
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Right by him, all things weremade.
He sustains all things.
He's the creator.
He took to himself the creature.
Now look how I've drawn them.
Notice that the creator and thecreature are distinct from one
another, not blended together.
They're not overlapping, butthey're together.
In other words, they'retouching, so to speak, not mixed
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, not separated and he's oneperson and this is who he is.
Now, do you see, go back tocreation.
In your mind's eye, god makesAdam and he makes him in his own
.
What Image and likeness.
Why?
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Why did he do that?
Because one day he knew hehimself would become and take to
himself a creature.
The model for Adam was theincarnation of Jesus Christ.
God didn't say, no, let me see,what would I do here?
No, he knew one day he wasgoing to become incarnate and he
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made after that model.
Looking at Christ, he made Adam.
This is why I'm insistent thatAdam and I wouldn't be dogmatic,
but Adam is made in God's image, in his whole person body, soul
and spirit.
You say, but God doesn't have abody.
I know I'm not a Mormon, Idon't think God has a body and
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spirit.
You say, but God doesn't have abody.
I know I'm not a Mormon, Idon't think God has a body.
I'm saying that the body thatGod made Adam, just as the body
that God made, jesus Christ, isrevelatory of who God is, which
is why God can come along laterin the Bible and say, god's
nostrils flared, or God's armbrought deliverance.
You say, well, does God have anose then, and does God have an
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arm?
No, it's conveying something tous through the human nose and
the human arm about what God islike that, for example, with his
nostrils flaring, he gets angry, that with his mighty right arm
, he brings deliverance andjudgment on his enemies.
So the human form is revelatoryof who God is.
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God didn't make it randomly, inthat the human form is not a
chance form.
That is a result ofevolutionary processes.
It is very specificallydesigned to teach us about who
God is.
Man also has a spirit, which isthe immaterial aspect of man
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that is also made in God's image.
We have such things as theconscience.
Is that something that you cansurgically remove?
No, it's not a physical thing,is it?
It's a part of our spiritualmakeup.
There's this thing that we do,called love.
We love people, love oneanother.
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Is that just a chemical processin us?
Now?
Lust maybe, but is is true love?
Is that something chemical inyou, or is it more than that.
Is it something that's relatedto your human spirit?
I think it's tied to the humanspirit.
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It's not something.
Can you take it out of a personand weigh it on a scale in a
laboratory and see how much lovesomeone has?
No, you can't do that becauseit's not material.
It's not chemical.
Chemicals are material.
It's immaterial.
It's part of the human spirit,all of Jesus Christ.
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First of all, god is spirit,right, he's a spirit being.
He's not physical spirit being.
He's not physical.
Uh, but man, we have a spirit,we have a body and we are souls.
We're living souls.
So did jesus christ have allthese going on as a creature?
Yeah, he had a body.
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We already talked about that.
He had a real flesh.
You could touch it.
People saw it, touched it.
He said to Thomas reach hereand touch my side, see, that is
his eye.
He ate.
Spirits don't eat Bodies, eat.
He ate in his resurrection body.
So he has a body, he has ahuman spirit, he has a human
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soul or person and he's unitedwith, but not mixed with, the
Creator in his divine nature.
So this is where everything atcreation starts to come together
in Christ.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
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