NT Framework - Is Christ also YHWH?

Is Jesus the Christ God? It's a fundamental question concerning your faith and salvation, and yet some say He isn't. And yet there are numerous places where Jesus' name is substituted for God's.

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Jeremy Thomas is the pastor at Spokane Bible Church in Spokane, Washington and a professor at Chafer Theological Seminary. He has been teaching the Bible for over 20 years, always seeking to present its truths in a clear and understandable manner. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Beyond the Walls with Jeremy Thomas and
our series on the New TestamentFramework.
Today a smaller, bite-sizedpiece from the larger lesson.
We hope you enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is the passage that Peter quotes on the day of
Pentecost, coming right out ofJoel 2, 28-32.
But before we read it, let'slook at verse 27 to see who is
saying this In verse 27,.
Thus you will know that I am inthe midst of Israel.

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Remember, god wants to dwellwith us here.
He's speaking about dwellingamong Israel and that I am the
Lord, your God, lord there.
And you see, probably in yourversion it's capitalized.
Each letter is capitalized,even though some of them are
smaller.
Whenever you see, this all capsLord.

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In the English Bible it istranslating Yahweh.
Okay, that is the wordunderneath it in the Hebrew.
So the person here that isspeaking is Yahweh, right?
And in verse 28, yahweh says itwill come about after this that
I'll pour out my spirit on allmankind.
Your sons and your daughterswill prophesy.
Your old men will dream dreams.

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Your young men will see visions, even on the male and female
servants.
I will pour out my spirit inthose days.
I will make wonders in the skyand on the earth blood, fire and
columns of smoke.
The sun will be turned intodarkness and the moon into blood
.
Before the great and awesomeday of the Lord Wednesday night

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class day of the Lord.
Okay, this is great and awesome.
Okay, so it's amended by anadjective great and awesome.
So this talks of the day of thesecond coming, but before the
great and awesome day of theLord, it will come about that
whoever calls on the name of theLord will be delivered, for on
Mount Zion and in Jerusalem,there will be those who escape,

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as the Lord has said, even amongthe survivors whom the Lord
calls, because that's the OldTestament passage.
It's talking about Goddelivering Israel.
While we're here, just askyourselves a question Did these
things happen on the day ofPentecost?
Before we go, look at the dayof Pentecost.
Did the moon turn to blood?

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Did the sun turn to darkness onthe day of Pentecost?
Did people dream dreams on theday of Pentecost?
No, dream dreams on the day ofPentecost?
No, we don't read anythingabout that.
Did people prophesy on the dayof Pentecost?
No, what did people do on theday of Pentecost?
They spoke in tongues.
Question did this passage sayanything about tongues?

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Yes, no, maybe, no.
Isn't this interesting thatpeter picked this up and quoted
it on the day of pentecost inorder to explain tongues, when
joel never even talked abouttongues.
Joel talked about a lot ofother things that would
transpire.
There is one thing here thatdid happen on the day of

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Pentecost, and it's in verse 28and 29.
I will pour out my spirit onall mankind In verse 29,.
I will pour out my spirit.
On the day of Pentecost wasthere a pouring out of the
spirit?
Yes, that is actually the onlything from Joel that happened on

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the day of Pentecost in Acts,chapter 2.
And so what happened?
You know, on the day ofPentecost, speaking in tongues,
how did the people try toexplain it?
You remember how they tried toexplain it?
Oh, these people are drunk, youknow, or something like that,
or out of their mind.
So what is Peter doing byquoting Joel 2?

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He's saying no, they're notdrunk, they're not out of their
mind.
There's been a pouring forth ofthe Spirit.
Okay, he's not saying this hasbeen fulfilled.
The sun will turn dark, themoon will turn to blood, all
before the great and terribleday of the Lord, which is the
day of the second coming.
So these events that Joelpredicted actually occur during

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the 70th week of Daniel.
But because of this similarityof the pouring out of the Spirit
, he quotes this passage.
And so let's go over to Acts,chapter 2.
Now, that's all things thatYahweh said he would do.
Right, in Acts, chapter 2,we've already had the tongues.
You'll notice, in verse 16,where Peter says you know, verse

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15, these men aren't drunk.
You know, it's only 9 am, iswhat he's saying.
I mean, what do you mean?
They're drunk already.
I mean, my goodness, theyhaven't even had their scrambled
eggs yet.
He says verse 16, but this iswhat?
Or tuta esen, this is thatwhich was spoken through the
prophet Joel.
And then he quotes what we justread, okay, from Joel 2.28 and
following.

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Now, in that passage, yahwehwould pour out the Spirit.
But come down to chapter 2,verse 33, as he's explaining it
2.33,.
Therefore, having been exaltedto the right hand of God.
Now, who was exalted to theright hand of God?
Right Christ.
Verse 32, right, this Jesus,god raised up again, to which

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we're all witnesses.
Therefore, this Jesus, ofcourse, having been exalted to
the right hand of God and havingreceived from the Father the
promise of the Holy Spirit, hehas poured forth this, which you
both see and hear who?
Who poured forth Jesus?
Now, wait a minute.
The Old Testament said Yahwehwould do this On the day of

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Pentecost it says Jesus did this.
What does that indicate to us?
That Jesus is Yahweh?
Okay, this isn't thatcomplicated, right, you can see
a Christ for Yahweh substitution.
Let's go to another one 1Corinthians 10.9.
Well, let's do the OldTestament first right.

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Numbers 21, 5 through 6.
Numbers 21, 5 through 6.
Genesis, exodus, leviticus,numbers Fourth book Numbers 21,
5 and 6.
You know, you remember, there inthe wilderness there's a lot of
grumbling that goes on, goddelivers them, and so forth,

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through a lot of this.
In verse 4, they set out fromMount Hor, by the way the Red
Sea, to go around the land ofEdom.
The people became impatientbecause of the journey.
In verse 5, the people spokeagainst God and Moses.
Why have you brought us out ofEgypt to die in the wilderness?

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For there is no food and nowater?
We loathe this miserable food,I can kind of imagine.
And so the Lord?
Okay, and you see, it's allkept right.
Yahweh sent fiery serpentsamong the people and they bit
the people so that many peopleof Israel died.
So who sent the fiery serpentsamong the people and they bit
the people so that many peopleof Israel died.
So who sent the fiery serpents?

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Yahweh?
Because who were they temptingor testing?
Testing the Lord Yahweh.
Now let's go over to 1Corinthians in the New Testament
.
1 Corinthians 10, verse 9.
1 Corinthians 10, verse 9.

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1 Corinthians 10, verse 9.
And I might ask a few of you ifyou have a different.
I have the New AmericanStandard Bible 1995 version, so
I may ask some of you if youhave a different reading here.
In verse 9, it says Nor let ustry the Lord, as some of them

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did, and were destroyed by theserpents.
So that's the same story inNumbers 21,.
Right, they tried the Lord,they tested Him.
Right, they tested Yahweh andthey were destroyed by serpents.
That word Lord there in verse 9, does anybody have another
translation?
Yes, the Net Bible.

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Let us not put Christ to thetest.
Anybody else have anything else?
Let us not put Christ to thetest.
Anybody else have anything else?
Let us not tempt Christ.
You say well, why does one ofthem translate Lord and the
other one Christ?
Usually when you see Lord inthe New Testament it's a Greek
word, kurios, lord.
But this is actually the wordChristos in the Greek text, all

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Greek text.
So who did they test in thewilderness?
The Messiah, the Christ.
This is a Christ for Yahweh'ssubstitution, showing that
Christ is Yahweh.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
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Jeremy Thomas.
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