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May 19, 2025 4 mins

To reject the virgin birth is to reject all miracles and events that are beyond human understanding and to replace it with a universe that mans limited mind can understand. That's rather short-sighted.

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Jeremy Thomas is the pastor at Spokane Bible Church in Spokane, Washington and a professor at Chafer Theological Seminary. He has been teaching the Bible for over 20 years, always seeking to present its truths in a clear and understandable manner. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Beyond the Walls with Jeremy Thomas and
our series on the New TestamentFramework.
Today a smaller, bite-sizedpiece from the larger lesson.
We hope you enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is one of the basic reasons that people are
opposed to the virgin birth.
It's because when you see thevirgin birth, you're looking at
a unique person who came intothe world.
This isn't just a normal birth.
This is a birth of someone whowas born of a virgin and avoided
, imputed sin, inherited sin and, through his life, avoided all

(00:32):
personal sin, being tempted inall things as we, and yet found
without sin.
So it's not just here's thething, it's not just the virgin
birth that has been so rejectedin history, because the virgin
birth is obviously a miracle,right?
Everybody agree it's a miracle.
It's all miracles.

(00:53):
It's all miracles that arereally opposed to.
There's no theologians who, well, I reject the virgin birth, but
I believe in the.
You know the dividing of thefish and lobe.
No, if you reject the one,you're going to reject all the
others too.
Because of what?
Because of natural law.

(01:15):
That's why I was a scientist.
I had five years working inplant physiology, a degree in
biology and chemistry and veryfamiliar with evolutionary
theory, both in physics,chemistry and biology.
And there's all this talk aboutnatural law and how things must

(01:36):
work according to these lawsand principles.
Right, in that view of reality,there's no room for miracles.
I mean, you can't have virginbirths, you can't have people
walking in water, you can't havepeople turning water into wine.
This just doesn't work in thatworldview.

(01:57):
So people with that conception,that worldview, when they come
to the virgin birth, theyautomatically reject it.
Why do they reject it?
Because they've rejected God.
They've rejected a God who, inthe Noahic covenant, said His
word would control nature.

(02:18):
Isn't that one of the mostabundantly clear things in the
Gospels?
As Jesus goes out on the Sea ofGalilee and it's all tossing
and it's crazy, because all thiswind would sweep over from the
eastern side down onto that lakeand it would stir it up and it
was dangerous.
A lot of people lost their lifeon that lake.
And then he just speaks to thewaters and he rebukes them right

(02:38):
and they become stillinstantaneously.
What's it saying?
It's saying that he, his word,controls nature.
There's no such thing asnatural law.
Okay, that's just there.
Besides, what would that beanyway?
Natural law I mean, as far as Ican tell from everywhere I look
, people make laws.
People make laws.

(02:59):
Nature doesn't make laws.
The question is who made thelaws by which nature basically
functions in a normal sense?
Nobody asked that question.
Isn't there a person behindnature who is controlling it?
And the normal way he does sois if I step out of the boat,
I'm going to sink.
But couldn't that person whocontrols nature also say that

(03:22):
when I step out of the boat,like Peter, did I get to
actually stand on it?
If that person controls nature,then he can say what is and
what is not, and that createsthe opportunity for what we
might call miracles.
Right, like a virgin birth.
But men don't want to face thatbecause that means there's a
supernatural realm, that meansthere's a God they're going to

(03:43):
have to face.
That means, because of theirshort accounts, they don't want
to face that because that meansthere's a supernatural realm.
That means there's a Godthey're going to have to face.
That means, because of theirshort accounts, they don't want
to face that God.
So there's this resistance tothe virgin birth, as well as all
the miraculous things in theBible.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Thank you for joining us on Beyond the Walls with
Jeremy Thomas.
If you would like to see thevisuals that went along with
today's sermon, you can findthose on Rumble and on YouTube
under Spokane Bible Church.
That is where Jeremy is thepastor and teacher.
We hope you found today'slesson productive and useful in

(04:14):
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