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July 3, 2025 31 mins

In this conversation, Jason Niedle speaks with Dave Boyce about the transformative impact of AI on sales and marketing. They explore the freemium model, the importance of empathy and metrics in customer engagement, and the need for businesses to adapt to theAI revolution. Dave shares insights on building human-robot hybrid teams and the necessity of architecting growth strategies to leverage AI effectively. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding customer journeys and the metrics that drive success in a rapidly changing landscape.

 

Chapters

 

00:00 Introduction to Winning by Design and AI in Sales

02:07 Understanding the Bow Tie Model in Customer Journey

04:52 Advisory Services and the Evolution of SaaS

06:19 The Freemium Model and Self-Service Trends

09:17 Implementing Freemium Strategies in Service-BasedBusinesses

10:45 Metrics for Success in Freemium Models

14:48 Navigating Customer Engagement

16:43 The AI Revolution in Marketing

18:16 Adapting to AI: The New Workforce

20:03 Deploying AI in Business Operations

21:36 Innovative Opportunities with AI

24:21 Identifying Growth Constraints

27:02 Architecting Human-Robot Collaboration

 

Takeaways

 

·       AI is revolutionizing sales and marketing processes.

·       The bow tie model emphasizes the entire customer journey.

·       Advisory services are crucial for growth in SaaS companies.

·       Freemium models allow users to experience products before commitment.

·       Empathy and generosity are key principles in customer engagement.

·       Metrics should focus on usage retention rather than immediate revenue.

·       AI can enhance human capabilities in marketing and sales.

·       Building hybrid teams of humans and AI is essential for future success.

·       Architecting growth strategies is necessary to leverage AI effectively.

·       Understanding customer journeys is critical for successful engagement.

 

Sound Bites

 

"AI will make it easier for buyers."

"We are in a revolution."

"We need to architect our growth."

 

Keywords

 

AI, sales automation, marketing strategies, freemium model, go-to-market, advisory services, customer journey, metrics, human-robot teams, innovation

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