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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello friends and
welcome back to episode 304.
Today's episode is very specialas we take a walk down memory
lane.
We celebrate six years of BiteMe.
Welcome to Bite Me, the showabout edibles, where I help you
take control of your high life.
I'm your host and certifiedgonger, margaret, and I love
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helping cooks make safe andeffective edibles at home.
I'm so glad you're here, hellofriends.
Welcome back to the podcastthat explores the intersection
of food culture and cannabis,helping cooks make great edibles
at home.
I am your host, margaret, andI'm very excited to have you
here today because it's aspecial episode, in my opinion,
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because this episode marks sixyears of my podcasting journey,
and we're going to get into thatduring today's episode.
But I just want to give a bigshout out to listeners, new and
OG, who have been with me,whether today's your first
episode or whether you've beenhere for all 304, I appreciate
you and I'm so glad that you'rehere sharing these special
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moments with me, and there willbe lots of recipes and
interviews to come, but Ithought it'd be fun to take a
minute to take this episode toacknowledge and celebrate not
only that it's the show's sixthanniversary, but also it's my
birthday and I will take giftsin the form of five-star ratings
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and reviews and donations madeon behalf of Bite Me to your
local food bank.
So just to give you a quickteaser of what's coming up in
this episode, we're going totake a trip down memory lane.
We're going to look at somehighlights and milestones,
lessons from the journey, what'snext and, of course, a little
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listener love.
It feels like a long time sinceI started the podcast, and it
has been.
It's been six years, and theinteresting thing about this
particular episode episode 304,six years later is that it falls
on the actual date that Irecorded my very first episode.
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That was June 19th.
2019 was when I recorded, orwas it released?
One or the other?
I think it was released, butregardless, I am counting June
19th as when I started thepodcast.
And also, fun fact, tomorrow ismy birthday, so the anniversary
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of the podcast always comesaround my birthday.
Whether that was intentional ornot, six years ago, who knows,
I've eaten a lot of ediblessince then, but the fact of the
matter is I started this podcastsix years ago not really
knowing what to expect and, ofcourse, I didn't really know,
like I knew, about cannabisedibles.
I knew that I loved them, Iknew how to make them.
But the edible scene looked alot differently six years ago.
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This was also months prior tolegalization in Canada, where I
reside, and also edibles werenot to come out onto the legal
market Initially.
They came out later, afterlegalization had commenced, and
I don't remember exactly whenthat happened, but I remember
being a little disappointed thatI couldn't get them and then
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later being further disappointedthat they were recapped at 10
milligrams per package, makingthem not necessarily a financial
good choice.
In a lot of cases, as someonewho can consume, you know, in
the neighborhood of 20 to 30milligrams, depending on how I'm
feeling or how I want to feel.
The set and setting, if youwill.
It gets pretty expensive toconsume edibles that way.
And of course, you've beenfollowing this show for a while.
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You know that I'm a bigproponent of a little radical
self-reliance where you can growyour own, make your own.
You know, just having theability to take control of your
high life on your own terms is apretty wonderful thing, and the
nice thing is is you learn, youstart to meet other people who
are interested in the samethings, hence the podcast.
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But that's not really why Istarted the podcast.
I started it because I lovedpodcasts, and I said that in the
past tense, which is erroneous,because I still love podcasts.
I listen to them all the time,every day, even if it's just for
snippets here and there betweenother things that I have to do.
But if I'm driving, if I'mcleaning, if I'm cooking,
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there's, there's met lots ofthings where I can be listening
to podcasts, and so it feltnatural to me as an audiophile,
someone who enjoyed thatplatform or that medium so much,
for me to explore podcasting.
And I had also gotten intoedibles and found that I really
liked how they made me feel.
I know, when I first started, mysetup looked a lot differently.
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I had a secondhand microphonethat I inherited from my sister
after she tried a stint ofreading audio books for
companies like Amazon, and thenshe ended up getting a different
job and didn't continue withthat line of work.
So she gave me her microphoneand then I used free software.
I think it was Audacity that Ihad to work a little hack in in
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order to open it properly,because the computer I had at
the time didn't necessarily liketo communicate with that piece
of software, but it was free andit allowed me to do the editing
I needed to do, although therewere a ton more features in that
software that were necessaryfor me because it was more music
editing software, but it stillworked, and so I started out
with a pretty inexpensive setupof a mic that had been gifted to
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me free audio software, and Ialready had the laptop.
And for my podcast host, theybecause I was just starting out
I started out on their free plan, so it didn't really take a lot
to get set up.
Over time, this little hobby ofmine grew to become a little
more serious, if you will, andthis is something that I love to
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do, and I've been putting outnearly weekly episodes ever
since, and I never thought I'dsee the day where I get to over
300.
That's kind of wild to me, butI want to shout out, especially
those early supporters who wereable to listen through some of
these episodes, and I'm sure ifI go back and listen to, some of
them are absolutelycringeworthy.
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I haven't done that in a while,maybe because my ego is not
prepared for it, but I like tothink that I have maybe polished
up a little bit over the yearsand I've also gotten better at
hosting the interviews that Ialso love to do, so I thought
it'd be interesting to talk alittle bit about some of the
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highlights and milestones overthe years.
Some of the episodes thatreally were meaningful to me are
probably mostly around havingguests on the show when I did my
first Cannabis Confessions.
I've done a few more for theBite Me Cannabis Club, but the
first one I put out as anepisode on Bite Me was with Jack
, who also lives in the samecity as I do, and he shared very
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vulnerably about his journeywith cannabis from a young child
teenager sneaking out of thehouse, as many of us did, to
later transitioning and havingcannabis be such an impactful
and helpful tool to guidethemselves through that process.
I also loved having I rememberwhen Jamie Evans, the author of
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numerous books, especiallyaround cannabis cocktails.
Jamie Evans is the herb sum andshe started out in the wine
industry and then transitionedinto the cannabis industry and
she kind of bridges both worlds.
Not surprising, because thereare a lot of similarities
between cannabis and wine whenyou dig into it.
I remember when she finallysaid yes to coming onto my show.
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That was a big moment for mebecause that was a moment when I
had been asking Jamie a fewtimes to come on the show over
the years and she is a muchbigger influencer, if you will I
hate the term influencer, buthas a much bigger audience than
I do and I felt like it had totake that much time or that
amount of time probably three orfour years in I think it was
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four years in before she saidyes.
But it was a real milestone forme because that was somebody
that I've been really wanting tohave on my show and she finally
said yes.
Other notable guests that I'vehad on over the years Jackie
McGaskill, the co-founder ofSheesh Hash Sodas, was also a
wonderful guest and she did workfor the LCBO Liquor Control
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Board of Ontario for many yearsas a buyer and product developer
and then discovered edibles andmade a hard pivot.
And what a bright spark of aperson to have in the cannabis
industry advocating for thisplant now.
And I just find that meetingpeople like that is always
inspirational.
But those are two really strongwomen that I had on my show
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that I am really grateful for,because it just also tells me
that I've hopefully honed myinterview skills enough to be
able to have people like that onmy show, because I learned so
much from having these guests on, which brings me to Vanessa
Lavorato, her episodeTransforming your Edibles, and
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she also taught me about the 30minute infusion time, which is a
game changer as well.
And having Mike DeViller on totalk about the corporatization
of cannabis and the things thatwe should be aware of in this
industry as it grows, not justin Canada but elsewhere as well,
was also super informative.
And, of course, I've done somecollaborations.
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I've appeared on other podcasts.
I'll link to some of those inthe show notes.
I've written some articles formagazines and that's been kind.
That's been a lot of fun aswell.
Launching the Bite Me CannabisClub was probably the next
biggest thing that I've done inthe last year, and I would say
that that has been reallyrewarding.
The people that have have beencontributing to the club have
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been pretty amazing.
The vibe of that space isreally welcoming and accepting
and fun, and we're all there forthe same purpose and it's
interesting because there'speople there who have very
little experience with cannabisand then there's people there
who have lots of experience withcannabis.
Everyone melds together prettybeautifully.
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That is something else thatI've been really proud of.
I never thought a show abouteating weed would take me to
where I am right now.
What has podcasting taught meover the years?
Well, a lot of it has beenabout consistency.
The consistency of showing upweek after week to put out an
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episode because there was anexpectant audience on the other
end.
And that consistency, well, Ithink, is good for growing the
show, albeit however slowly itgrows, because I would say this
is a pretty niche podcast and Idon't have a huge budget.
I don't have any budget toadvertise and share it, so a lot
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of it's just my own efforts andthe word of mouth from
listeners.
The consistency has been goodfor me Before 2019, if I had
attempted to run a weekly show,there's no way I would have been
able to be consistent enough todo it, and that's been a big
thing for me.
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Is that consistency?
Because perhaps that'ssomething I've struggled with a
little bit in my life over theyears, and also it's showing up
and being a little bitvulnerable.
Sometimes I wonder how much Ishould talk about my personal
life on here.
It feels a little strange to beputting myself out there.
I'm Gen X, so my desire toreally put my entire life on
display online is not strongwith me, and I know people who
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do it beautifully and I followthese people and enjoy their
content, but I'm not necessarilyone of them.
So sometimes being vulnerableis a really big deal for me, and
I'm sure there's lots of youout there who probably resonate
with that sentiment.
And, of course, it's alsolearning out loud in public.
I'm learning right alongsideyou folks, but I'm out there
talking with the folks thatwe're learning from, and that
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definitely puts me outside of mycomfort zone.
But when you do things that youlove, sometimes it requires you
to be a little bit uncomfortable, and if we're not uncomfortable
from time to time, maybe we'renot doing things quite right.
Maybe you need to push yourselfa little bit more.
I had a mantra at the beginningof this year that I shared with
a couple of people that I workwith, and the mantra was simple.
It was just fucking do it,because so often we like to hem
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and haw and pro and con a thingand find all the reasons why we
shouldn't just do it now.
Wait for it to be perfect.
I mean, there's a whole list ofreasons why we don't just
fucking do it.
Just fucking do it.
I leave that with you becauseI'm sure there's something in
your inbox or something thatyou're working on or a difficult
conversation you know you needto be having.
Just fucking do it.
It has served me well manytimes already this year.
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Now the cannabis industry hasdefinitely shifted over time and
legalization, tech, a littlebit of misinformation, but
community building I think Ikeep coming back to community
building, especially with a lotof people that I talk to within
the cannabis space and peopleare looking for communities,
because a lot of the traditionalstoner cannabis community vibe
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is very different than what I'dsay building over at the Bite Me
Cannabis Club, and I thinkthere's a space for everybody.
And that's one of the thingsthat I've been observing as, as
the cannabis market becomes moreaccepted and in Canada, as
legalization has transpired andthings have changed, it really
does show that there's space foreverybody in this, in this
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industry.
And my favorite quote reallyhas become I don't even know if
it's a quote, it's a saying,because I can't, I would have to
look up.
I don't even know if it's aquote, it's a saying, because I
can't, I would have to look up,I would have to attribute it to
somebody.
Maybe I can put that in theshow notes as well.
But rising tides lift all shipsand that's what I'm trying to
foster.
And of course, edibles haveevolved themselves.
I mean, the availability ofedibles on the legal market is
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pretty astounding.
The selection that you can getstill has its limitations,
because if you're somebody whoprefers savory edibles, then
it's not necessarily going to beas easy to get on the legal
market, at least where I reside.
This, of course, may bedifferent in other jurisdictions
that have a legal or a legaledibles market.
That looks different.
But of course we're alwayslearning new things about
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edibles.
For instance again shout out toVanessa Lavorato with the 30
minute infusion time, tested itout myself several times and
found that that does in factwork.
And in fact I was making arecipe recently before recording
this and I had to infuse somemilk for this recipe and the
recipe called for me to infuseit for two hours.
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And guess what?
I did it for 30 minutes and Igot a real nice buzz off of what
I was making, so saving youtime.
So edibles have evolved andpeople are looking at using
concentrates also to makeedibles for better potency.
Not just better potencystronger edibles, necessarily
but also to dial in the potencylevel or the actual dosing Just.
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The beverages market hasexploded over the last several
years and I've interviewednumerous people on both sides of
the border Canada and the USand that seems to be, even
though a very small market share.
Still it seems to be one inwhich people are super
interested in and I think, as alot of folks move away from
alcohol rightfully so, becausewe're finding out the science is
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also showing that alcoholconsumption, even in small
amounts, is really not thatgreat for us.
People are looking forhealthier alternatives that will
also allow them to blend in andnot have to deal with the
social stigma of saying I'm notdrinking.
Now, of course, I have gonethrough periods of my life where
I haven't drank at all.
An opportunity to hold acannabis beverage when you're
out is, I think, a pretty biggame changer and, of course, a
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lot of people who are new tocannabis and, because we're in a
legal place now in Canada, alot of people who are curious
about cannabis are coming out todiscover more about cannabis
through food and drink, and soit's a huge opportunity to sort
of change stigma, changestereotypes and get people
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interested in this wonderfulculinary world that is cannabis.
If you've been listening to thepodcast for a while, you know
you can infuse almost anything,which is why making your own
edibles is also so freeing, andyou can infuse your favorite
savory dish, you can infuse yourdips, you can infuse butters
and sauces, you can infuseanything at any potency level
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that you require, and that isfreedom, my friends.
So what's next for the podcast?
Well, as I see it right now, Istill see myself doing recipes
for the show that I've made inmy own kitchen as a
non-professional chef, because Ilike to think that if I can do
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it, you can do it.
I am always looking to havemore guests on.
I do have some excitingepisodes coming up guest-wise.
I have already interviewed andwe'll be releasing the episode
very soon with Christina Wong,who puts on incredible events in
California, and I will beinterviewing as well Angelina
Blessed, who is a Muay Thaifighter and also has a line of
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edibles.
So we can expect those comingout and I'm looking always to
have more guests on my show thatcan really add to the
conversation around culinarycannabis, around the cannabis
industry, about the concept ofrising tides lift all ships.
These are the things thatreally interest me, so I would
love to interview people whoresonate with those messages.
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Of course, the Bite Me CannabisClub.
I'm still working on thatCommunity building.
I do exclusive episodes overthere.
I need to record another batchof those called Highly Educated,
which are short form episodeseducational podcast episodes
around cannabis education.
We're doing events, so I hopeyou might consider checking that
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out because we would love tohave you.
I'm always working on some newthings.
I have the journal that Ishould probably push some more
because I have 50,000 hats thatI'm usually wearing.
I have Bite Me merch now that Iam also working on, and I'm
looking to create new resourcesand workshops for you as well.
So the future of edibles isbright and I'll be here helping
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you make every bite count.
So bite me.
I love how bite me is very muchlike the F-bomb.
It can be used in a variety ofcontexts of contexts.
I've had a lot of people sendreally nice messages over the
years, whether it's personally,through Instagram, through the
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fan mail button in your podcastplayer, and I'm just going to
read one message that I got froma listener in Rochester, new
York Margaret, what was thespark that caused you to hit
record on your first podcast?
Do you feel that you changedover the years doing your
podcast and do you feel thatyour podcast has changed right
along with you?
Please explain, that is areally great question.
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I've mentioned already whatcaused the spark to first hit
record and, as I mentioned, alove of podcasts and a love of
edibles.
It seemed like a match made inheaven.
But have I changed over theyears doing the podcast?
100%?
I think if people aren'tchanging and growing, then
they're becoming a littlestagnant, and I have personally
learned so much from listeningfrom other podcasts.
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I've learned so much from doingthis podcast.
I have definitely changed as ahuman being and you know my kids
have gotten older.
Sadly, my dad has been gettinga little bit older, as I do
reside with him.
I got out of a huge I shouldn'tsay huge relationship, but I
did get out of a long-termrelationship and I've done a lot
of growth and unpacking fromthat and I've been able to zoom
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out and see how I really havechanged over those years.
And I moved out of the housethat I lived in for 15 years as
well to come to a whole newplace.
A person can't not change withall that kind of personal
disruption, and I understandthat a lot of people are going
through that kind of personaldisruption all the time.
This isn't unique to me, ofcourse, but has the podcast
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changed over the years?
As I have, I think.
I can't help but think that ithas, because maybe the focus of
the guests that I'm having willchange the focus of the episodes
themselves.
But I think, in particular withthe guests like having again
Mike DeViller on the show totalk about the corporatization
of cannabis that has changedalong with a lot of my own
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political and world views overthe years, and that's not a
conversation I was probablyprepared or willing to have or
reading about, you know, sixyears ago or prior to the
podcast.
But as things have changed, asI've changed my opinions about a
lot of things and I've grownpersonally, those are the types
of conversations, sometimesdifficult, that I enjoy having.
Now I invite listeners to sendin their edible wins and
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questions for future.
Ask Me Anythings if anyone isinterested.
I always welcome messagesbecause you are a part of this
journey.
I wouldn't be doing this sixyears on if it wasn't for the
amazing listeners of Bite Me, soI would love to hear I'm going
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to turn it back on you now whatare you personally celebrating
this year or this month.
Do you have a favorite ediblebirthday treat that I might be
able to try out, or just afavorite episode that you really
enjoyed or a recipe that youreally enjoyed?
I would love to hear about itand I want to thank you so much
for being part of Bite Meenjoyed.
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I would love to hear about itand I want to thank you so much
for being part of Bite Me.
If you would be so kind, leavea rating or review, join the
Bite Me Cannabis Club.
I would love to have you overthere because we can continue
this conversation over at theclub where we can interact
directly and with other amazinglike-minded cannabis lovers.
And I think that's it for thisweek, my friends.
Please share your favoriteepisode or memory.
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I will shout you out on afuture episode.
That's it for this week, myfriends.
On this anniversary birthdayepisode, I am your host,
margaret, and until next time,stay high.