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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Greetings friends.
Welcome to Episode 299.
And today we're doing aninfused Bloody Mary.
Welcome to Bite Me, the showabout edibles where I help you
take control of your high life.
I'm your host and certifiedgonger, margaret, and I love
helping cooks make safe andeffective edibles at home.
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I'm so glad you're here.
Welcome back, my friends, tothe podcast that explores the
intersection of food, cultureand cannabis.
I am so glad you're here.
I would love to know where areyou listening from?
Send me a message, I would loveto hear it.
I always love to hear wherepeople are listening from,
because this has become a trulyworldwide podcast, which is kind
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of cool.
We're all gathered for the samereason a love of cannabis, a
love of edibles and a certainamount of curiosity about both
those things and the world atlarge.
It's an educated bunch of folksthat are listening to this
podcast and I am grateful thatyou're here.
If you're just tuning in for thefirst time, you are in for a
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treat with the infused BloodyMary, because where I am in
Canada, spring has finallysprung.
It was a long, cold winter andat the time of this recording,
the weather has been absolutelystunning, and that brings my
mind to more beverages.
Now.
Perhaps a Bloody Mary isn't atraditional spring drink, but,
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as someone who also loves thingsthat are more on the, I have a
wicked sweet tooth, something Ihave to keep in check, and I
thank my father for that, who,if you didn't know, I live with.
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He is in his early 90s anddoing remarkably well, but I do
provide an invaluable amount ofin-house tech support.
I definitely got the sweettooth from him when I observe
some of the things that he likesto consume, and you know who
can blame him.
The sweets are great, butsometimes we have to branch out,
we have to push our boundaries,and this infused Bloody Mary is
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going to be one way that we'regoing to do that.
Now, of course, if you haven'tlistened to the episodes on
tinctures and making tinctures,I would highly recommend you go
check out Liquid Gold, the Artof Cannabis Tinctures.
It was only a few episodes agoand I had mentioned that I was
going to do an episode around acannabis-infused beverage
because, as I mentioned, springhas sprung and I think that's a
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time when a lot of people startto think about drinking their
cannabis.
Because why not?
In the meanwhile, have youchecked out the Bite Me Cannabis
Club.
Yet, if not, check outjoinbitemecom because we
continue the conversation overthere Before we get into today's
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episode.
I am feeling the trivia today,so I'm picking a random card out
of the Stoner Trivia Race to420 card game.
I'm going to pick one from themiddle of the deck and hope that
it's not one that I've alreadydone before.
I think with the number ofcards in this deck it would not
be that difficult, but alas, Ithink the last time I did this I
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picked a card that I'd alreadychosen.
Today's question unjust bust.
Which actor was arrested forselling bongs over the internet
in 2003?
Was it Cheech Marin, tommyChong or Woody Harrelson?
2003 sounds like such a longtime ago.
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That must've been like thebirth of the internet Selling
bongs over the internet back in2003.
Wild.
Which actor was arrested forselling bongs over the internet
in 2003?
Cheech Marin, tommy Chong orWoody Harrelson?
If you guessed Tommy Chong, youwould be correct.
And fun fact for those thatdidn't know, tommy Chong is a
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Canadian stoner.
That's right Now.
I don't think he's lived inCanada for quite some time, but
he is indeed Canadian.
So put that in your pipe andsmoke it.
In any case, shall we get ontothe subject at hand today, and
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that is the Bloody Mary.
This particular recipe thatwe're going to be covering today
.
I have chosen to donon-alcoholic.
Many of us out there areattempting to drink less alcohol
.
I thought it was important todo a virgin version of this,
although do you call virgin ifit's infused with cannabis?
I don't know.
That's a really good question,but there's no alcohol in this
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particular recipe.
If you're so inclined, you canalways add it if you wish.
That's totally up to you.
But you do have to recall thatthe crossfade is an advanced
move.
So if you're drinking andconsuming cannabis at the same
time, that is definitelyadvanced and you need to be
really careful around that,because cannabis will amplify
the effects of the alcohol and,depending on how you combine
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them, when there's all kinds offactors, it can also amplify the
effects of the cannabis,frankly.
So a lot of the times it'sactually just better to avoid
mixing the two.
So this particular recipe aswell is going to be for all
skill levels.
There's nothing particularlydifficult about making this
drink.
The difficulty may be ininfusing your alcohol, which is
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also super easy.
So this is a great recipe totry if you're relatively new to
edibles.
Your biggest chore is going tobe figuring out the potency of
your cannabis tincture so thatyou can make sure that you're
getting an appropriate dose anddosing this beverage in a
mindful way.
So we're going to be divinginto crafting the perfect
cannabis-infused Bloody Mary.
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So let's get into it Now.
I know what some of you mightbe thinking is Margaret.
A Bloody Mary is a complexbeast, but, like I said, it's
pretty easy to throw together.
You just need the rightingredients.
Yes, I want you to throwcannabis into that big,
beautiful, spicy tomato chaos,because life's too short for
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boring beverages, boringbrunches, boring whatever.
And your homemade edibles gameis about to hit a whole new
level of sophistication.
So, whether you're a seasonedcannabis connoisseur who's been
making your own edibles sincelong before it was cool, or
you're just starting your dipyour toes into the wonderful
world of infusions, I promiseyou'll walk away from this
episode with some killer ideasand the confidence to stir up
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some magic in your kitchen.
And, of course, you can pairthis episode with other cannabis
beverage episodes that I'vedone in the past.
You'll find those in the shownotes.
It's going to be informative,fun and, I'd like to say, a
little bit edgy, but that's howI like things.
I'm not sure it's going to gettoo edgy, but all right.
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So before we get into the highnotes, let's talk about what we
need to make a Bloody Mary.
What makes a Bloody Mary aBloody Mary?
It's more than just tomatojuice and the vodka for the
people who are putting alcoholin it, but it's a symphony of
savory, spicy, tangy, umamiflavors that, when done right,
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they say, can cure a hangover,kickstart your day or just be a
darn delicious drink.
And, of course, because this isa non-alcoholic version and
your version of cannabistincture could be a THC to CBD
ratio.
It could be a CBD cannabistincture.
It can be a high potency THCtincture Kickstarting any part
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of your day.
That is totally up to you.
You're taking control of yourhigh life, which is why making
your own homemade edibles is sofabulous, because you get to do
what you want, how you want,when you want.
It's all about you and thecontrol over the edibles that
you're enjoying.
So first, your base.
You're going to start withtomato juice and the nice thing
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about this is a lot of folkshave the things you need to make
a great Bloody Mary in theirfridge already.
Now I have to admit I did not.
Why, margaret, you ask, youmust have all these ingredients
in your kitchen from years ofdoing fabulous infused recipes
and also just feeding yourselfand your family.
Well, I did.
I did until an ice storm hitand I had to throw everything in
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my refrigerator.
And because I was uncertainabout certain things hit and I
had to throw everything in myrefrigerator, and because I was
uncertain about certain things,just everything had to go.
And it doesn't seem like a bigdeal until you realize, oh wait,
I had a lot of condiments andsauces and a random assortment
of things that now I have toreplace.
So it's sort of happeningslowly, a bit at a time, because
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just to go out and buy it allwould actually be probably
pretty costly.
I'll just replace it as I needit.
There was definitely somethings in that refrigerator
anyway that had to go.
As I mentioned, I live with myfather and I am certain there
were containers of items in thatfridge that had my mother's
handwriting on it, which shepassed away eight years ago.
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So it was a good thing to cleanout the fridge when that
happened.
But in any case, what you needfor this particular recipe is
you need tomato juice.
You may have to go out and buythat.
I don't know too many peoplewho are huge tomato juice lovers
on their own.
I do recall my grandmotheralways served it at mealtimes
when we gathered for Christmasor Thanksgiving or Easter.
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I'm not really sure why.
They were just always in smallshort glasses.
Everybody got one.
My grandfather was British.
Is that a British thing?
I don't really know, but Ihaven't really done it, since
You're going to need olive orpickle juice and Worcestershire
sauce, hot sauce, horseradish,black pepper, lemon-lime juice,
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sea salt.
Now, like I said, you probablyhave most of these things in
your fridge already and if youhave to go out and buy some,
then you can pick them up.
Also, don't forget that you'regoing to need your cannabis
tincture as well.
This isn't really one of thoserecipes where you have to do a
dry run first, if you will.
There are definitely recipes Iwould recommend that for where,
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if you've never infused it, it'sbest to try the recipe out
without infusion in case itmesses up, and I have done that
many times before because youdon't want to waste your
precious infusions.
You just don't want to waste it.
This is not one of thoserecipes, because the tomato
juice is sort of the star of theshow.
You're going to want to makesure you get a pretty decent
quality tomato juice.
Now, when I picked up mine,there were only a certain number
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available.
So sometimes, depending onwhere you're shopping, you kind
of have to buy with what you canget.
But you would try and aim forsomething rich and flavorful,
not watery and sad, because itis the blank canvas for this
masterpiece At the end of theshow.
I am going to talk about Caesarsa little bit.
So you Canadians out there justwait.
I know you're probably yellinginto the ether right now.
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But Margaret, what about theCaesar?
I'll get to that.
The flavor powerhouses thatyou're going to be adding to
this, as I mentioned, are allthose things.
The Worcestershire sauce is anon-negotiable for that deep
savory umami.
A few good dashes of that.
The hot sauce, tabasco, istypically a classic.
I did pick some of that up, butI mean you could play with
other ones as well, just to seehow it changes up the flavor
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profile.
I've also heard some peopleprefer a less spicy hot sauce to
go in it, but that's totally upto you.
Horseradish I am a lover ofhorseradish, despite my sweet
tooth.
Yes, I do love things like thisand that brings a pungent sinus
clearing kick, which is maybewhy I like this recipe right now
Somebody who seems to deal alot in allergies and all the
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trees are budding right now.
I like that sinus clearing kickin allergies and all the trees
are budding right now.
I like that sinus clearing kick.
Fresh lime or lemon juice isgoing to be that acid that
you're going to need to bringthe essential brightness and
tang If, of course, you don'thave fresh, squeezed, the bottle
stuff will do as well.
And, of course, don't forgetyour spices.
The celery salt is a mustcracked black pepper, maybe a
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pinch of smoked paprika and, ofcourse, the garnish.
Now, the garnish is where theBloody Marys go from good, nice,
delicious, to wow, because it'sall about the presentation.
So you have your celery stalk,maybe a lemon wedge, some green
olives you can put those on acocktail stick or whatever, but
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those are kind of going to bewhat can also take a Bloody Mary
from a drink to almost a mealand it really makes your drink
look fun and festive, even ifyou're just doing it for
yourself.
Why not?
I would say garnish it up,because treat yourself.
That's what we're doing all thetime when we make our own
edibles, too.
We're treating ourselves.
We're treating ourselves tofeeling good.
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We're treating ourselves to ourmedicine.
We're treating ourselves torelieving stress.
We're treating ourselves, andno matter how it is that you do
it, it's important that you doit beautifully, and you are
worth those beautiful garnisheson your own drink.
So don't skip that part.
So, as far as putting togetheryour Bloody Mary, you're going
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to get out a large pitcher orcontainer and you're going to
combine your tomato juice, yourhorseradish, your Worcestershire
sauce, your hot sauce, lemonjuice, black pepper, celery salt
and your tincture.
So just remember that whenyou're putting it into this jug,
this is going to be for all thedrinks that it makes, and
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that's an important thing toremember.
So bear in mind who is going tobe drinking this with you.
Perhaps you're just drinking ityourself and you maybe not all
in one sitting, but that issomething to keep in mind, which
is why it's important to knowhow potent your cannabis
tinctures are.
If you are sharing, sharing iscaring, but it's important to
know how potent your cannabistinctures are.
If you are sharing, sharing iscaring, but it's not very caring
if that person gets really highand uncomfortable, so just keep
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that in mind.
You're going to fill two glasseswith ice cubes, pour the Bloody
Mary mixture over the ice.
You're going to garnish withyour lemon wedge, your pickles,
your olives, your celery stick,all those things, like I already
said, because you want tocreate a beautiful beverage for
yourself that's Instagram worthy, maybe, and that's it.
That's what's so great aboutthis drink is it's so easy to
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make.
You just mix it all in, addsome ice, throw on some
garnishes and you've gotsomething cool that's fun to
share.
And another way to use thatcannabis tincture that you are
making, have made, will make, amI right?
No, of course.
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Like anything, there's lots ofways that you can modify this
particular beverage to suit yourown tastes.
Some substitutions, if you will.
You all know I'm a big lover ofsubstitutions or tweaking
things to make them moresuitable for your own
preferences.
And, like anything, the BloodyMary is highly I say highly
adaptable.
I mean, you have the really,you have sort of a base way to
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do it and then people tweak itbased on their preferences.
Now, there's a lot of folks outthere I have seen many recipes
out there who don't usehorseradish, so if you're not
really a big fan of thatingredient, you can always leave
it out.
If you want to make it a veganoption, the only ingredient you
may need to watch out for isWorcestershire sauce, which is
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often made with some kind ofanchovies, so you might be able
to find a Worcestershire sauceor maybe instead use soy sauce
as an option.
The garnishes, again, as we'vealready mentioned.
You can have fun with this part.
It is the most fun part ofmaking the drink and you can
always garnish the outside ofthe glass with salt, add a
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celery stalk, a lime wedge,olives, pickles, bacon.
I mean, we've probably all beenin those restaurants where they
have like Bloody Marys andCaesars that come out looking
like it's a meal on top of aglass.
And, of course, if you'd wantto make this a little less spicy
, again, forego the horseradish.
But you can omit the hot sauceor use something like a green
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hot sauce.
It's not going to be as spicy.
So those are a few ways thatyou can modify this to your own
preferences.
The nice thing about a BloodyMary, too, is that it's a great
cocktail to make ahead of time.
So if you are expecting somecompany.
You want to wow them withsomething fun.
This is a great way, a greatrecipe that you can put together
to showcase your beautifulcannabis tincture and with all
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those flavors in there.
Whether you use a freezerversion of the cannabis tincture
that's going to have less taste, less of a green taste, or
whether you use a moretraditionally made cannabis
tincture, like on yourcountertop, at room temperature,
that typically has a strongercannabis taste, this is the
perfect cocktail to mask thoseflavors, because ingredients, of
course, like the tomato juiceand horseradish and
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Worcestershire hot sauce they'reall so good at masking those
flavors.
So it's a great beverage tomake.
But you can make it in a largepitcher, let the flavors meld
together overnight and then youjust have to pour it into your
glasses with ice and yourgarnishes and you're all set.
Now you're going to want to alsoopt for high quality tomato
juice and fresh fruits wheneverpossible.
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Using fresh ingredients, ofcourse, is going to over enhance
the taste of this cocktail, butof course, sometimes you have
to work with what you've got.
If you have everything else butyou haven't had a chance to go
to the store to get fresh lemonsand lime, well I mean nobody's
really going to know.
Nobody's going to know.
The best part about this one isexperimenting and having fun.
You sort of have to be in themood for a Bloody Mary sometimes
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to really get into thisbeverage.
It's not necessarily one that Igo to.
Well, I shouldn't say thatbecause I am as a Canadian.
I'm not sure if you know, butapparently I have heard that
Caesars are Canadian and that inthe US they don't have the
Caesar.
Is this true?
Maybe somebody can let me know?
But that is what that is theword on the street are Canadian
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and I have had many a Caesar.
I love a good spicy Caesar and Ithink the main difference
between the two is the juice.
Bloody Marys are made withtomato juice and the Caesar is
made with a Clamato juice, whichis a blend of tomato and clam
juice.
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So if you're also kind of onthe vegan side or vegetarian,
maybe that's not for you, butthat is sort of the difference
between the two, and I found anarticle that talked about the
differences between Bloody Marysand Caesars.
Oh, and it says right hereBloody Caesar is the version
Canadian of the Bloody Maryfirst made in 1969 in Calgary,
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canada, with a blend of tomatojuice, clam juice, which we know
here as Clamato juice.
The rest of the ingredients areactually very similar and, of
course, like anything, there'slots of variations on it.
There is a bar in my town thatspecializes in Caesars and again
, they're garnished to the hilt,so it looks like you have a
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glass of food coming to you, butI do love a bloody Caesar.
So that is something you couldprobably try instead of just
using the tomato juice.
Switch it up and try theClamato and see how you like the
difference.
See if you notice thedifference.
I mean, I think they're bothdelicious.
I just tried those Bloody Maryfor this one because I thought,
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hey, there's a lot of Americanswho listen to this particular
show and I like to branch outand try different things, and I
really did enjoy it.
I don't know if I couldhonestly say I noticed a huge
difference.
Now, what if you don't have acannabis tincture on hand when
you're making this?
I mean, you could probablyinfuse it with an oil, but
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there's definitely somedrawbacks to that which, as many
people have probably noticed.
You mix an oil in with a drink.
Even if you give it a reallygood stir, it's going to
separate.
The oils are going to have aflavor, unless you're doing
something like an MCT oil, whichtends to be more flavorless,
but a coconut or an olive oil isgoing to affect the flavor of
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your beverage.
How does that translate to aBloody Mary?
Well, because it's a bitdifferent than a tincture.
Oil and water, as I justmentioned, don't naturally mix.
So that's the biggest challenge.
So the biggest challenge ismixing it and the flavor.
So how might you make it work ina drink that's pretty much
water-based?
Well, you've got a few options.
One you could just go for avigorous shake in your cocktail
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shaker even though you're nothaving to put this in a cocktail
shaker or just give it a reallygood stir which will
temporarily emulsify the oilinto the drink, but it is going
to separate it and if you'resipping on your beverage it's
just going to separate.
That's just the science here,folks.
So even for a small amount ofoil, I mean it might be okay.
Perhaps, if you're dosing eachindividual drink, that might not
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be a problem.
You could add something like anemulsifier, but then, of course
, that seems like a lot ofoverkill for like one pitcher of
a drink, and also that it'salso going to potentially affect
the flavor and you don't wantto do that.
A simpler approach, and one thatI think is kind of cool, is
that you could use the infusedoil as a float or drizzle on the
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top of your Bloody Mary.
Maybe just do a nice littledrizzle of your oil right on top
and of course, you're not evennecessarily going to see it,
depending on how much garnishingyou have on your Bloody Mary,
but that is one way that youcould do it, so you get that
initial hit of the cannabisflavor.
You know, just accept it as itis.
The tincture is obviously goingto be a much better way to
infuse this, but I recognizethat not everybody has a
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tincture on hand.
You may say Margaret, I reallywant to make this still.
So you could do it artistic, doit artistically, drizzle it on
the top.
You're going to have that bitof that taste at the beginning
and again, using a more mild,unflavored.
Actually, the olive oil couldpotentially work pretty nicely
for this too, now that I'mthinking about it, finally, you
could also try using a cannabisinfused salt rim or spice rim,
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and if you, if you don't havecannabis tincture, whether you
have cannabis infused salt onhand is debatable, but it is a
way that you could infuse thisand it's a, you know, salting
the rim is also.
It's a really nice touch.
Caesars almost always have asalt rim.
I have much less experiencewith Bloody Marys beyond.
I don't know if I've ever had aBloody Mary until I made this
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particular version.
I've had lots of Caesars,though, because they are
delicious.
You could use an infused saltto make a salt rim, and that's
another way that you could do it.
So there's a few different waysyou can infuse this.
Obviously, the tincture is yourbest option, the infused oil is
your next best option, and thenyou can go from there.
But I would love to hear howyou infuse this particular
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beverage.
If you're doing something alittle out of the ordinary and
if you're not, tag me or jointhe Bite Me Cannabis Club and
show your versions in the group,because the fun part about
these are, of course let's allsay together, the garnishes.
Yay, I hope you enjoyed thisepisode, my friends.
Please consider sharing it withthose who may be interested in
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making delicious infused BloodyMarys.
Next week I have a guest on thatI think you're going to find
very interesting Mike DeVellier.
He wrote a book called Buzzkill, the Corporatization of
Cannabis, and I think it's a.
He has a really importantmessage that's good to share
with people in the cannabiscommunity Maybe a bit of a
departure from, perhaps, what wenormally talk about on here,
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but it is important and Ithought it was a really
interesting conversation.
I read the book not that longago and it was eyeopening and
quite fascinating, especiallyfrom the perspective of public
health policy.
So stay tuned for that.
I'm really proud and excitedabout that episode.
And then the next week.
I'm talking about infusionexperiments, because I have
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tried some things out in my homekitchen and I want to share
those results with you, becausewho else am I going to share it
with?
Let's be honest.
But that's it.
As I mentioned, as always,check out the Margaret
Recommends on my website at biteme podcastcom.
Join bite mecom for learningmore about the bite me cannabis
club.
And until next week, my friends, I am your host, margaret.
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Stay high.