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By the time he was 26 years old,Ronald True and gone from
humble, broken beginnings to attending one of the most
prestigious schools in the world, he'd traveled the far
reaches of the earth, working asa farmer, New Zealand, an
officer, Canadian mounted police, and a drug researcher in

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Shanghai. He'd become heir to a baron's
fortune, yet didn't hesitate to step up and make history.
When war broke out and Britain called for aid, he enlisted,
becoming one of the first pilotsof the Royal Air Corps, where he
quickly set multiple records before taking his leave and

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landing a government contract asa test pilot in the private
sector. Yes, it was 1917, and Ronald was
undoubtedly writing and rewriting his resume as he made
his way via Steamboat from England to New York.
I didn't see you there. It all started early this
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He basically wrote the book on Monarch.
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The Addams family on meth. This is the Black Hat report.
See you on the other side. Hello everyone, and welcome to

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episode 121, Ronald True A Part 2.
My name is GAIL and joining me today, The man, the myth, the
illegal riff, the Charles to my Manson, the DC to my AC, the
whole wheat bread to my peanut butter, the tears to my squonk.
Joey Lake, thank you so much. You know, I kind of feel like

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Denarius Targaryen from Game of Thrones when they read this
huge, long list of things that really don't make you that great
of a leader. But I appreciate all the
interest. The longer the name, the worse
the person. It's what I go by.
It's true. It's Ronald, True, but before we
get into the madness and murder,we got to do a brief little bit

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of housekeeping first. It's going to be short.
First off, apologies for the delay.
While to be honest, news of one particular Cheeto did kind of
leave me feeling a little bit more scatterbrained than usual.
Oddly enough, it was also partially due to jury duty for a
murder trial, something that Joey has been unable to talk

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about for a few weeks now. But I'm sure he will be
enlightening us and equip it's here and there as future
episodes progress. Maybe potentially even in this
episode, which is about a murder.
I learned a lot and honestly, I won't be talking about the
specifics of the trial, but I will definitely be using the

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knowledge I've gained on how trials run, how they're handled
and things like that just to make it easier on us or if we
need a little like little nudge over there on why something
happens. You know, just got the inside
track. I got the podcasters version of
the trial, which I was very happy about.
I also did get really, really sick.
So I apologize again. Think I said it in the cup of
Joey, if he listens, that I got really, really sick for a week.

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So I'm feeling better and excuseme, pardon me, you might not
hear it. You might hear me coughing every
once in awhile, but I'm on the up and up now so I'm all good.
You literally got so sick that two weeks into jury duty they
forced you to leave basically. Yeah, they did when I've done
99% of the trial. So yes.

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Now on this out there, just a quick little fashion tip.
If you're having trouble trying to accessorize a large curly
white wig, you can find a link to The Trial of Ronald True by
Donald Carswell down in our shownotes.
Along with all of the resources that we bring up in this episode
and subsequent episodes are all right down there.

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All the links and be doing Patreon shout outs a little bit
different this week. We're going to be having to put
them at the end next week. There's something very special
that I'm planning on doing with those shout outs.
So just, you know, Joey, plan for that.
Plan for that somehow. I'm not going to tell you, but
plan for. It I'm plan and planned.
There is an exception actually. 2 exceptions. 2 very bad ass

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patrons, Jayden and Ian, we got to say thank you both for
reaching out and getting our eyes on the fascinating true
crime anomaly that is Ronald True.
Excellent suggestion, thank you.All that said, when we last
slept off with Ronald True, we covered how he brought his

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unstoppable incompetence to the doorstep of the world, how he
abused and hurt small animals, and how he rode shotgun in a car
that was taking him to the top no matter what he did or didn't
do. Fact.
To understand the story of Ronald True, I would insist you
need to understand the story around Ronald True, which has

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less to do with Ronald and more to do with what's true.
But with that having been covered in Part 1, and that
preparatory disclaimer read to you an episode late this week,
we can finally dig into the mindof a madman as addiction takes
him, insanity matures, and murder begins to guide his

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hands. After landing in New York,
Ronald quickly took on all the merit he'd never earned, but not
before donning the names of his stepfathers as he impersonated
both of them during his first few months in the US.
During which time he operated asmore or less a con man,

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traveling from state to state inwhat would be an early trial run
for his later criminal insanity.It was during this time that
writing bad checks and money orders became a hobby he
enthusiastically indulged in, along with potentially getting
married and divorced twice within just five months.

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And he did all that while still somehow finding a way to serve a
brief sentence in jail for forging money orders.
Now, maybe it was the time he had to reflect on life or the
fact that he finally had to faceconsequences for his actions.
It's hard to say. But when Ronald True arrived

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back to New York after being released, he was a changed man.
He was a new man. He was now Major True, a brave
and battered hero of British aviation whose injuries and
obvious limp were earned not through repeatedly crashing his
plane every single time he had achance to do a solo flight, or

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who, during his time in the military, never made it out of
England or saw a single day of battle.
No, no, no. But as an unfortunate result of
his incredible skills, pushed totheir breaking point not by the
enemy, but by his own valor, as he faced overwhelming odds day
in and day out and dogfight after dogfight, doing everything

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he could to save the boys on theground from dying in the
trenches. In other words, Major True was
the exact opposite of Ronald True.
It was between the late summer, early fall 1917 when Major True
returned to New York, and his timing couldn't have been

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better. See, the US had just entered
World War One only a few months earlier.
Troops were being shipped off daily and excitement was high
again. It had only been a few months
since the US started sending over troops transportation
pretty fucking slowly. Back in the day, everything was

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by a ship and a few, if any American veterans had returned
back yet from the front, dead oralive.
Basically the streets were empty, people were being shipped
off, all the young men shit weregoing over there, and even news
coming back was fairly slow and like pretty much just all over
the place. Shit was really new.

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This means that Major True was one of the only veterans people
had to talk to and hear stories from the war.
True had finally found his calling in life.
It was the perfect place and theperfect time to be an overly
entitled bumble butt with an egothat only his growing delusions

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could rival. That all said, if Ronald ever
had one true skill 1 Ronald Truetalent, it was his ability to
quickly ingratiate himself with strangers, to temporarily
convince people that his ego wascharisma and that his
eccentricities, which is part ofhis charm.

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As one might suspect, skill and a new persona married perfectly
in this situation. Major True quickly became the
highlight of every party he attended, which along with
everyone's desire to support thetroops, made it so he quickly

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rose up through the social circles and was soon mixing it
up with celebrities, debutantes,politicians and last but not
least, aspiring actors. Which leads us to the moment.
Amen. His future wife Francis Roberts,
17 year old aspiring actress, said to be as knockout of a town

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as she was. Or their beauty.
That trickster fate tied their futures together.
The cocktail party one late summer evening.
Well, hey there. Haven't seen you around here
before. You are.
You come by often. Is this my apartment?

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Oh, yeah. Fascinating.
So if you were an actor, it's cool.
You know, I wasn't theater once.Theater of war.
You probably don't want to hear about it, but I just got over
here from from England. And as the guests gathered
around, hanging on every fallacytroop boldly composed in front

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of them, Francis fell harder than any plane Ronald ever
aborted in the sky. Anyways, if you excuse me, I'm
I'm actually running late. I'm actually a participant in a
highly important medical experiment.
Gentlemen, stay hard, stay true.Ladies, stay wet or tea out.

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His famous catch phrase? Well, his charm and tales of
courage worked like magic. And November 5th of that same
year, Francis Roberts became Francis True, a decision the
long arc time would really make her come to regret.

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But before that lesson even began, the later weeks of that
same November will continue to bear fruit.
Major True, as he was soon able to convince the United States
War Department to hire him as a flight instructor.
Yeah, he's going to crash more planes.

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With more people in it. He's got the booster seats.
Don't worry about me, I don't need a.
Hat. I won't need any Chrome boots
either. And while normally this would
spell out a situation where Truegets in, crashes immediately,
and is fired all within the course of a month, possibly
resulting in everyone around thearea seeing he's full of shit,

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timing in this exact moment was on his side.
Teaching first in Minneola, New York, Major True somehow managed
to avoid gravity long enough forthe government to keep him as an
instructor when they transferredthe whole school down to
Houston, TX. He got hired just before the

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whole operation was put into boxes and moved, which going to
assume is probably why he lastedso long.
Well, he was still pursuing thisnew opportunity.
This is a big deal for Major True, right?
And he followed this job that went S while unfortunately,
Francis, she had to stay behind.She was working in New York and

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in the theater. She was under contract.
So after basically the month anda half of being married already
in two opposite ends of the country, probably good for her.
Probably better for her in the long run.
Yes. I can only imagine they're just
like, hey, you know, they're, they're packing up the box like

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we're going to Houston. He's like, all right, Ronald
True. Take this big plane that we we
just created and fly all of our stuff down there, I guess.
Sweating profusely. That the, that the, that one,
that one. Oh, I.
The new big plane. I'm a big plane over there.
I'm allergic to planes that are that size.
Yeah, it's like a weird allergy.I I have a doctor's note

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somewhere if you want to go look.
For it, that's the morphine note.
I think I left it in my hat. Have you seen that anymore?
It must have flown off during your test flight.
So sorry, I'm actually running late for a medical experiment.
He's always leaving for those medical experiments.
You must be a really important person in science.
Well, months would pass before the operation in Houston was,
you know, fully up and running with groups of new recruits

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getting assigned instructors andmore hours clocked for being
trained by an instructor than any other man, Ronald True was
ready to teach the next generation of American aviators.
School started. An imposter syndrome never stood

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a chance against this man's unbridled.
Look, a lot, gentlemen. Class is in session.
Listen up. I know some say Yankees don't
know how to fight unless it's behind a tree or involving tea
in a harbor at night. But you're in luck.
That's why I'm here. The name's true, major true.
And you're about to be blessed with my knowledge.

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Thanks to a royal decree, you say When the queen heard the
colonies were joined in the effort, she sent me over
immediately. Said I'm truly what are the only
people capable returning. You fly boys, and the fly man.
Now first roll of flying, take off your hat slows down.

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You're thinking it makes it hardto land.
Second roll, those little wings you got there too small, going
to need to be at least three times that size.
See mine custom. Third roll and don't forget this
one. That's a trash can and that's an
airplane. Common mistake, but don't worry
about the time I'm done trainingyou.

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You'll know down from over and the best toppings to order on
Taco Tuesdays in the medical ward.
When I'm done with you, you won't even be able to tell the
difference between a trash can or a plane.
What it's the Chris Farley whereyou guys in the back puking has
come down I. Love that.
I think that was from Tommy Boy.Well, sadly though, for Major

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Truths career ambitions, they went the way of Icarus flying
too close to the sun when he immediately wrecked a plane and
was fired. So his first flight, he
immediately wrecked a plane. His first trading flight.
No, you don't understand. I was trying to invent the the
ground plane. Yes.
The Germans will never see it coming.
We'll kick the ground. The.

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Car I was showing them what not to do.
They'll think that it's a plane,but we'll get them from the.
Trust me, it works. Just like dude, so many things,
that little moment in time in New York was so critical to so
many things that come down the line here.
But like, fuck, this couldn't have been a better moment from
him because like he'd been fucking up at everything his

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entire life. Being a socialite was not
necessarily something he was known for before this.
But like dude, this time and this place and the the amount of
like any way or give people would would would have for him
when he stepped up and was probably like literally the only

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guy on the block when it came tobeing a veteran.
This whole life is just falling forward.
Right. No money.
How many times he jumps out of the car at success, it keeps
pulling them right back in and keeps driving.
No matter how many times his plane literally crashes, he's
somehow I don't, I don't know, he's crashed 4 planes.

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And these are these are not planes that are, well, safety
planes. These are open airplanes that
don't have cockpits for the mostpart 'cause they weren't
invented yet. You know how many people died
before the Wright brothers trying to fly everyone.
Everyone that ever tried to fly a plane?
Yeah, like they, like the Wrightbrothers are so lucky that like,
Orville was just like, hey, maybe we need to wait another

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minute for the glue to dry on zabalsa wood.
And then he's like, I don't know, I think we can go now.
He's like, I don't know, I checked the humidity and he's
like, OK, let's get drinks because like they would have
fucked up and we would still be.I don't know all riding ground
planes or something. So the Orville, Orville and
Orville Wright and the Wright brothers.
It would have been like boom chicka pal, popcorn, joke, red

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and bucket. Way off track, but honestly,
that's on theme for Ronald True now.
After a brief stay in the hospital, he was released into
Texas with a ruined reputation and a pocketful of cash.
My dearest Francis, I know this time away from me must be hard

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for you, but hold your faith. I'm writing to inform you that
unfortunately, I've been reassigned by the King on a
special mission, meaning, sadly,your heart must ache a little
longer. Well, I can't disclose much.
What I can tell you is I've successfully infiltrated the US

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Army's medical ward and might have discovered the potential
origins of Taco Tuesday. Stay what?
Stay true, RTO. Oh, yeah.
PS How's acting and stuff RTO? Whatever you're doing, I don't
care. It doesn't matter.
It's not as cool. As you went to Mexico.

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That's what I'm saying, yes. That was a good guess.
That was a good, a good, good hint there.
I mean, look, you know, where else do you go when you fail in
America? I mean, as I was thinking
earlier and talking about earlier, there is no other
country in the world that appreciates and rewards con
artists more than the United. States so well and while I

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suspect his time there was just as much of A blur for him as it
is for us looking for records ofwhat he did.
What we do know is that after literally and says it in this
book wandering around for a while he got sick with a lung
issue specifically of that lung complaint.

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He then decided to wander over to Cuba for just a little bit
before he finally made his way back up to New York.
Reconnected with Francis in June1918.
He left around December, got back in June.
He was basically there for a fewweeks or like a month.

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Hate. Just wandered around Mexico for
like 6 months or less. 5 or 6 months.
Mexico with the wife, with a newwife.
That's like, cool, thank you. I'm just waiting for you.
Sure enough. Shortly after his return, the
newlyweds left America, made their way to Ronald's mom's
house in England. And just as that tradition, so

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was it to the tradition. But the way she reacted, his mom
quickly set him up with a careerand shipped them both off to
another continent as per usual. As per usual.
Well, this time it was to West Africa in what is now called
Ghana, where he was able to become an assistant manager for

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the Taqwa Mining Company. With knowing nothing about
mining. Everybody, I'm here.
What do? What do we do?
You just want me to tell people what do I what to do?
What do I tell them what to do? They should already know.
Can I just say that? I can just say that.
Do I have? To just say that.
I don't feel like. Yeah, he literally got into
middle management again. So he's in the position where he

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doesn't get to tell anybody. He doesn't get to make big
decisions. They're like, this is this is
exactly what he does. They put him into places where
he doesn't get to make big decisions and still has somebody
over top of them. And then to be like, hey, this
is like a mining company. This is kind of what we do.
And then he's just like, well, he's a middle manager now.

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That's what I feel like he's gotten thrown into because
nobody thinks that he can make the best decisions except for
the United States. And we thought he would be the
best instructor as a test pilot instructor for pilots.
He worked hard for that con. I don't give him that.
He did crash many planes, yeah. He really crashed many planes
for that con. No, but.
Keep in mind this was 1918 in West Africa.

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He was British working in as an assistant manager for a British
company. This was some apartheid shit.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah, for sure.
You're about to hear here in a second, like how the court
records and how the people you know that come up later in the
case and shit like that. They skirt some phrases that are
a little bit too short these days, if you're asking me,
right, that's true. Well, while there, there were a

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few things that happened that will catch up to True later in
the story. Most notably, the fact that
everyone, and I'd literally meaneveryone who came into contact
with True considered him Stark fucking mad.
The amount of times I read the word eccentric, right?

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Like just yeah. And spoiler, he gets fired from
this on the grounds that he's too eccentric.
But we'll get to that in a moment.
Now, this case, I don't drew. His case was recorded in the
early 1900s, so I'm not going tosay a lot of the testimony given
by British management in this case about his quote behavior

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with the natives. End Quote.
But to summarize both the localsand the colonizers accounts, he
was messed up in the head, neverwore a hat and was too
eccentric. That all said, I will quote, and
this is a direct quote in the book, an account Ronald True as

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he gave a speech to the mine workers after receiving the news
he'd been fired. Quote.
He assured the people at Taqwa they would soon see him again as
he intended to form a transport company for the Gold Coast
trade. His return to the Gold Coast
would be by aeroplane via Franceand the Mediterranean and the

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Sahara. When it was objected to that
this was a bad route for petrol supplies, Tru did not agree.
There were many places he said where oil and petrol could be
had but you admitted to give particulars.
End Quote. Translated to Ronald True and
for folks that haven't been reading a bunch of old British

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writing the whole fucking time, he said.
Sit down my friends. I've already worked out a plan
to start a new company, a betterone, sort of going that weird
loop de loop way. Talk what takes.
I'm going to fly straight through France, the
Mediterranean and the Sahara. They'll save both time and money

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meeting all have more than enough to hire all of you.
At which point somebody in the crowd yelled.
There's nowhere to refuel. No, there's a there's a bunch of
spots where the what where. Anyways, fellas, stay hard, stay

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true. RT out, but not for long.
Stay hydrated. And this is the other one he was
trying to say stay. Fueled that long British fucking
rent though. Like they were literally people.
Literally just like everybody, don't worry, I'll be back.
And everybody's like, what the fuck?
Don't. Don't come back.
Yeah, please don't come back. I will say a good handful of the

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the complaints of the time was that he was fraternizing and
hanging out with the natives in there.
He just basically didn't treat him like shit.
At least, you know, he didn't see himself as being above, say,
the first time I've ever seen him be humble, which is like,
wow, cool. I guess there's some redeeming
things somewhere anyways. But yeah, I mean, he was just

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like. Oh hey, you're cool.
How are you? Doing and just like give a fuck
that they were black. Yeah yeah.
And he was totally. Which also kind of makes sense
in the in the sense that like hetraveled so fucking much around
the world before this moment in time.
Like the so much of the early part of his life was just
traveling, including that long period of time before he popped

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up in Shanghai where we don't know where the fuck he went.
So he might have kind of like overcome that, that deep seated
British imperial racism of the time pretty fucking early, just
like. I don't know, I just realized
like, we're all kind of the fucking same.
I mean, you're all a little bit not as cool as me.
So like, what's the big deal? Why are you guys fighting?
Yeah. Yeah, I would say that he

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probably didn't see him see themas lesser beings for different
race. He just saw them as lesser
beings because they're not him. Yeah.
So everybody was underneath. Yeah, yeah.
Even the even the English, even the English people were below
him. Exactly.
Yeah, he's like, look, guys, they treat you all like shit.
I know. I just got fired.

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I'm there with you. Here's the deal.
Take it over the company. Just give me like a couple
weeks. I'll be back.
Now, but it's just the point is this was clearly like batshit
looney, right? Yeah, very much.
And this, this moment, it's, it's, it's a pretty big deal.
This moment he got fired marks two major turning points for
True and those around him. First, Ronald was no longer just

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egotistical, a liar and a nuisance, but was now visibly
starting to flirt with insanity.And 2nd, he was now a daddy.
Francis gave birth to a little baby boy named Ronald F True.
That is for fucking. Because that's what I'd be

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doing. I do want to have a video like a
very short clip of me like holding like a bundled baby and
it's like the F is for fucking Gucci, Gucci Gu and then it like
camera goes over and it's just like dad and then blind.
Yes, that's the perfect thing. That would be perfect.
Damn, it sounds like some douchey shit.
He would say the only one more more fucking true than me.
I just that's a that's her middle name.

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We'll tell your mom it's for Francis.
I guess he's AI guess he's a hiskids a junior and he's a senior
now it's. True.
It's Ronald. Fucking true.
Wait. Actually, his name's Angus.
His real name's Angus. So Angus Ronald True.
Yeah, you're right. How did how did you remember
that? I forgot it.
I just. Angus Young because of the joke
I made from ACDC, That's how I remember it is that's the only

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reason I remember his name is because the guitarist from ACDC
I. Don't even know what's true
anymore? Well, guess what?
On the family's return to England, it was clear that
Ronald's mind was deteriorating rapidly, spiraling past the
point of him or his family beingable to maintain the illusion of

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him being a capable person with an eccentric, so fragile
stability. And so, as others watched his
insanity move forward from nuanced moments to much more
obvious odd behavior, his dirty little secret, his morphine
addiction, soon became more openly discussed amongst the

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members of his close family, made worse by the treatment he
had received for his third planecrash.
The timeline of events after Ronald's return was now noting
him regularly disappearing from home and embarking on multi day
long morphine binges. It was becoming a problem,
right? As he would.

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Yeah, I mean, they got back fromTaqwa, you know, his Gold Coast
trade company wasn't making it off the ground, not because he
couldn't get funding, but because he couldn't turn the
plane on. Anyways, a breaking point was
soon reached and Ronald was checked into a nursing home, or
more specifically, what we wouldnow refer to today as a rehab.

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To put it into perspective. Just how bad his addiction had
become. I did the math regarding how
much morphine he was given everyday during rehab as they tried
to wean him off. It comes out to 3.8 times but
the lethal dose would be for somebody with no tolerance and

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even at that amount it's still wasn't enough.
Because during his stay true wasdubbed by all the local people
as the madman. A known quantity to every doctor
in chemist in town who was notorious for being aggressive,

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violent and completely cuckoo bananas.
He was getting out of rehab and like beating the fuck up out of
pharmacists and like forcing doctors to sign.
And I mean, like, this is, this is the, the shit that comes with
like, you know, severe substancedependency, right?

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Like this, this is the kind of shit that I'm not really going
to make fun of him or anything like that, those kinds of
things. Cuz like that's just real.
That could happen to anybody. You don't have to be an asshole
for that kind of shit to pop off, you know?
But. But he was an asshole.
If only that he had been sent back to Chicago during the
World's Fair to beat up the pharmacist that was a eventually

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became AJ, James probably would have joined him, honestly.
This fair is incredible. You can barely tell what's
what's real and what's true. Anyways, where the fuck's that
pharmacist? I got a prescription I need him
to fill Got. To beat him up.
What up, HH, Homie, how you doing today?
How's that hotel coming along? Doing good, doing fine.
Fantastic. Hey, gonna need you to fill out

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some paperwork for me. Don't worry about it.
No big deal. Just need your old signature
here and I'll be on your way. Hey, what's this slide doing
over here? Oh my God this is the coolest
shit I've ever seen you. You had an indoor slide put in
the house. Where's that late mystery room?
Way downstairs. I'm going to go do some sliding
after I take the doctor's orders.
I'll meet you downstairs. RT out.

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But this period of time brought with it another important
development, or should I say an important introduction.
You see, while staying at rehab,Ronald True was known for
betting on horse races, and whenwinds came in, he was obviously

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more than delighted with the results.
But when the runs didn't work out in his favor, he became
furious. Not because he had lost, that
would be impossible, but becausesomeone else was clearly
impersonating him. His evil doppelganger, Ronald

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True. That's right.
Some asshole whose last name wasactually spelled TREW was
apparently placing fraudulent bets and pretending to be Ronald
True. PRUE.
Yes. It's confusing.
We'll do our best. In the end, this is at least

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what he told. You know, bookies that came
looking to make good on his betsat the time, right?
Yeah. Not to break his legs.
Yeah, it wasn't me. It was true.
The other Ronald. True.
I wonder did he also, I don't know if you know this, but did
he sign with TREW when he placedthe bets or did he sign his?
TR No no no no no TRUE but the TREW doppelganger was signing it

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TRUE, so it came back to. Him, he said.
God damn it. What the fuck?
I didn't even bet on that. God damn it, it was.
True again. It was Ronald.
True. And everybody's like, you're
Ronald True. No, not me true.
And they're like, what? He's like, no, here, I'll write
it out for you, TREW. And they're like, OK, my name is
TRUE. How do you not hear the

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difference? Yeah, no, that makes that makes
a lot of sense for where he's going already, especially with
the morphine addiction. I'm sure that to be fair is it's
not helping his 'cause right nowI think yeah, it's C spiraling.
Yeah, he's spiraling down a holeof like he had like what's
freaking crazy is so far like, like you were saying earlier,

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he's had everything gifted to him.
We talked about in the first episode like everything's been
gifted to him and he's like the true he's the true Instagrammer,
you know, like influencer, and yet he is still going down a
hole. And like sometimes, you know, as
like the public we we like to watch like this would be a

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perfect reality show just to watch his life go down a fucking
hole. And then after he crashes and
like, you know, if he doesn't die or doesn't get sent to jail.
He'll come out. On the other side and he'll go
into a reality TV show and then he'll be famous from that as
like AB list C list celebrity but.
I couldn't agree more that it would make a great show, which

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is why we're doing a show on it.Shout out to Jaden and Ian, good
fan Ian. Anyways, Ronald continues to
bounce in and out of rehab over the next two years, all the
while narrowly missing the otherRonald True who was constantly

(35:17):
just running around in the background trying to ruin his
life. As time went on, this Ronald Wu
to emphasize the West became a homicidal delusion for Ronald.
Hunting him down and killing this imposter became a fixation

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along with Ronald himself becoming increasingly more
violent behavior thoroughly documented during one of his
last stints in rehab where the staff had to use 2 male
attendants to supervise Ronald 24 hours a day.
For the last two weeks he stayedthere.

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They had to have two full grown yo rehab center or like psych
board kind of shit like those. Those orderlies in attendance
are not small folks, no. There, there have to be, yeah.
Big mother fuckers. I actually knew somebody in in
Tampa was friends with somebody who was a a psych ward or
something. I would say crazy stories, but

(36:22):
that that's a bad joke anyways. Big mother fuckers and Ronald
True getting fucking violent. I don't know if they just did.
They just not have straight jackets and they're just like,
God damn it, no matter what I do, they won't come out
straight. Like I don't know what the fuck
the British were doing back then.
Yeah, I feel like straight jackets were more more to

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protect in some ways, the individual who was in there to
protect themselves from themselves.
And I feel like that they just at this time probably just
didn't give a fuck about if theywere hurting themselves.
So that's true. Yeah.
So they're just probably like, whatever, it's fine, you know,
because straight Jack, I feel like, you know, never have been

(37:04):
in a mental institution myself. I don't know if how it feels to
be in a straight jacket, but I would imagine that's what it's
for. Because that's what they say.
It's to protect themselves from themselves because he's
probably, he's not in his right mind.
He's he's definitely starting tocrack.
And how old is he? Is he in his 30s at about this
time? Early, late 20s?

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Early 30s? Because he has a kid?
He's so he's in his late 20s, early 30s, like very late.
I think he's probably around 30 years old at this time.
Well, that's about the time thatthat if, if he was going through
all this stuff, that he would start showing mental illness.
To be fair, that's. About the time your goddamn
magic did it again. Sometimes this decay of

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character, this growth of violent madness and paranoid
delusion, and Ronald's personality will obviously play
a role not only the horrific murder he'll commit, but also
mark a pivotal turning point in the history of England's lawns
around mental health and criminal responsibility.

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Tracking the descent of somebodyinto insanity before they murder
somebody. Like that's what's happening.
They are becoming highly, highlyaddicted to morphine while going
literally clinically documented insane before killing somebody.

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There's uncomfortable shit with that, right?
And actually, while we're pulling this out, I have to
admit Ronald True has left me wrestling with some bigger
questions. I'm not going to get into them
right now, but if you're interested in why I decided to
still make certain jokes about him, stick around past the

(38:55):
closing music of this episode. For my two cents, I want you to
know I am completely open to changing my opinion, and I would
love to hear yours. It's just what I've been
tackling, reading through this, writing a script.
I'm always down to change. Oh, that shit out of the way.
Back to the story. After being released from rehab

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in 1921, Ronald and his wife were living together in
Portsmouth, England, about 73 miles southwest of London.
Well, in England they say it differently than we.
We have a Portsmouth as well. In North Carolina, we say
Portsmouth. PORTS MOUTH.
Portsmouth. Portsmouth, I'm trying to say in

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a British accent. It's Portsmouth.
That's what Portsmouth. That's how it's spelled, yeah.
Look, man, I didn't write English grammar laws.
They did. They should pronounce it
phonetically. That's their punishment.
Back to the story. After being released from rehab
in 1921, Ronald and his wife areliving in Portsmouth, England.

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About 73 miles southwest of London during that time there he
developed a brand new and interesting hobby staying Ronald
true to himself, he had a massive ego to maintain and he
did it by becoming a misdemeanormastermind.

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That's right J Cat. It's crime time.
It's. Crime time.
Ronald became a kleptomaniac andstarted shoplifting from every
stall, stand and store that he and Francis would stop at when
they went into town. What he took was always

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something petty, paltry, or frankly made no sense at all.
Then on the way home he would pull it out and brag about
whatever the hell random shit itwas to his often unamused and
perpetually confused wife. You doing all right over.

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There sugar butt. Fantastic.
Forgot to ask, did you did? You get those apples I really
like yeah, the new feedback now I hate to bring it to you like
this with such a little fanfare,but might have solved our little
bedtime problem our. What?
I'll give you a hand. We no longer have to live in

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fear of toads licking our feet at night.
Lift up the cover of the back. Check it out.
Yeah, give it a look. See.
What? What am I looking at?
Exactly. You see, just before we left,
when the shopkeeper wasn't looking, I snagged 3 bread ties,
2 floorboards and of course the pump to the toilet and the

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employees ruster. As one would, as a maniac would.
He's just adding this into his bag of tricks now, I guess as a
as what's going next into how tosurprise, how to surprise your
wife in the worst way possible. I now also am not just a, I'm

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now not just addicted to morphine.
I am now a kleptomaniac. So what?
You know, they say, they say surprise your significant other
always like be surprising each other, you know, And I feel like
it's Valent. It's almost, it's close to
Valentine's week. He's doing his best.
He's doing his best. And you know what the best way
to get rid of an addiction is? To develop a stronger, more

(42:32):
crippling addiction. And there's one thing he's got
going for him, which is that he's always true to the game.
Well they always say get get hobbies.
That's how you help cure your addiction.
You just have hobbies And now his hobby is stealing random
things. So good hobby.
And all my unofficial capacity, Ronald True 100% textbook has

(42:55):
schizophrenia. He ain't got schizophrenia.
He invented its second cousin orsomething.
But I do think that this is likekind of a holdover of his
struggle between the world, his entitlements, how he's
reflected. And honestly, this process of
insanity is him starting to hatehimself because he's starting to

(43:17):
realize it but not able to fullycomprehend it.
It's very interesting, but whilethat skit sounds made-up because
it was, it's actually not that far off from the types of
conversations he had with Francis when they leaving places
and he had just shoplifted. Usually showed her something
like a bookmark or a pen and would say something like, and

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I'm quoting from the book. I'm truly one cunning dog.
Like just like just. Check it out baby, don't mean to
make you all hot and bothered but got another one for you.
He's just stealing things of no consequence, but damn, they're
consequence, you know, they're they're adding to this whole.
So much of his life has just been him unable to actually make

(44:06):
an impact on the world when the world's just been like thirst
trapping him for it. Like just everything's been
there for him to participate at some high esteemed level to have
status to have no, everything's been ready for him to just press
the red button. Ronald, just press the that's
all you got to do. Just press it once in your life

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and everybody. Will applaud you.
He's like the what now? No, sorry, I was looking at this
green button over here that I sat on and.
They're like, no, that's the oneyou're not supposed.
Oh shit, what? You make it green, they're like,
it's not green, it's Fiji apple and he's like.
Never had one of those before. I'm going to try them someday.
But like he, like he everybody around him who has set him up

(44:50):
with everything is they, they'vebasically accepted the fact
they're like, like he fucking can't.
We've tried. Nothing clicks with this dude.
But God damn it, he's the whole time he's had the ego of like,
oh, yeah, that, yeah, bored of that.
And like, I just invented it. He's like, I think I thought of
that when I was like 6 buddy. He was born already bored of the

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world, like he'd already conquered it, you know?
And now reality's starting to conquer him, and he's becoming
trapped in it. It's kind of pretty fucking
dark. Yeah, he's everything that he's
doing is, is like unintended consequences.
Like he, he's gaining notoriety for the things that are

(45:36):
unintended. Like basically they're probably
creating whole new ways of like making sure somebody is an
actual trainer and not a crash test pilot, killing people
before they hire them. So there's probably like things
that because of his his actions and because of his things that
are being built up behind him. And like you said, like he

(45:58):
inspires a whole legal part of the system, you know, in the end
and his legal case. So it's like he's these
unintended consequences. He's inspiring in the opposite
way, like you're saying, like he's he's trying to, they're
telling them to press the red button, he's looking behind
belt, but what about that green button?
Feature Apple button. And he's pressing that button.

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Those are the unintended consequences of the things that
he's doing, you know? Yeah.
And like. Dude at these at these spots and
like these positions and shit that he literally just gets off
a boat and it's his because thathappened so many times.
If he just literally didn't do anything sort of retired, you

(46:41):
know, like it's been like, yeah,you're good, you know.
But like that's where I think somuch of his like ego just drives
him this entitlement, this ego, this I'm better than you kind of
thing where like he's a Dick. He's a fucking Dick.
But there is something sad aboutthese little acts of like the
kleptomania and shit like that where it's just he hasn't lost

(47:05):
the world, but the world has lost him.
And in the process, he's losing grip on the world.
Like it's like multiple layers of shit going on, going on with
that and it and it comes out in these little moments of like,
check out those bread tie, you know, like, don't worry, baby.
And it's guess he's going crazy.But it's also a reflection of

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the the, the words, the impulse of the shit that's already deep
down somewhere, right? Yeah, it's his grasp for
control. Yeah, like everything in his
life, yeah. He never really had control over
because pretty much everybody was sending them everywhere.
They're like, now you're going here and now you're going here
and now you're going here. You know, even the British Air
Force was like, get out of here somewhere else, you know?

(47:47):
And like, so at very small timesin his life, did he have real,
did he probably feel like he hadreal control over his maybe even
his actions and some of them because maybe he felt like at
some points that he was just either too good because he'd
been built up like that in his childhood of being like, you

(48:07):
know, you're going to this school, you're going to this
school, you're better than otherpeople.
And maybe even when he was in the colonies, when he went to
India, they, you know, as we didtalk, he, he felt like he was
still among the common man, I guess, and not like overboarding
other people. Yeah.
Yeah, he's still had an ego at that point, so maybe he just

(48:28):
felt like he had no choice and the these little kleptomaniac
things in these little tendencies.
And also adding in that he had amorphine addiction, which he got
wildly out of control. So holy shit.
Things. Yeah, maybe these little things.
Are his like? Trying to get back into control
of his life. The kleptomaniac is like, oh, I
can steal it. That's that's, that's control,

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you know? Having an impact on reality that
he can define himself by that he's.
Doing. Well, besides the constant
embarrassment Francis felt over her husband's new hobby, life
seems to have more or less been stablish for the truths until
around September of that same year, 1921, when Ronald was

(49:13):
arrested and appeared in court. Not for his black market bread
tie collection, but for forging a love letter in the form of a
doctor's prescription to his first true love, morphine.
Which would again results in another 2 month episode of rehab
and release. But this time Francis was out of

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town while working under contract in the theater.
So Ronald was released to the not so stoked care of his aunt,
who, as she'll testify later in detail, was still disturbed 30
something years later by how much of A selfish jerk and
asshole Ronald was as a child. She agreed to take care of him

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through the holidays and into the new year.
It was Christmas week, and Ronald had spent it at his mom's
house with his aunt. The night was cold, presents
weren't unwrapped, and dinner had long since been served.
The two ladies sat by the fireplace discussing what there
was left to do with Ronald True.His aunt told his mother about

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how he had said three different palm readers in Buenos Aires
predicted his death would come by means of a sinister woman.
His mother's shared tales Ronaldhad told in rehab of the antics
being carried out by the nefarious Ronald True and how
one time her son wrote out the title of a mining claim in

(50:44):
Mexico using a German's blood. It shouldn't be surprising that
during this chat, Ronald appeared downstairs saying
before they could get a word out.
Quote. I have some business to transact
in Bedford. Then left.
His ears were burning for sure. God damn it, I got to get in the
cold. He is the first one to invent

(51:08):
earmuffs. This is great.
This doesn't construct my head at all.
You guys should try this. It's like the G string of hats.
It's pretty cool. So he's just doing all this
random stuff now, and I can honestly imagine that he's like,
he he dropped the present off for his aunt and his mom and
they open it and they're just like, oh, another bookmark and

(51:29):
bread ties. But I mean to brag about how I
got them. But there were risks involved.
Do you have the? No, I'm gonna hide that if the.
Constables come over. I'm just do.
You have the receipt for that I,I.
Was Yeah. I didn't get it from me.
Yeah, you did. Do you have the receipt for that
I. I stole that too.
Here you go. Wow.
I, I, I just wanted to see, you know, where it's from, you know,

(51:51):
but where, where's, I mean, Bedford, like what's the.
That's the do you remember? He went to the Bedford.
School. He's going back to school.
That area of where he went to tobasically middle school and all
this shit connects. All of it connects, buddy.
Like, yeah, but thank you for bringing that up for asking
that. Yeah, because I definitely did
get later in and I was like, Goddamn, Bedford's popular.

(52:13):
And then I was like, oh, duh, it's fucking school that he went
to it. This makes sense in the familial
context of like, I'm going out to Bedford and it's like, yeah,
he spent like nine years of his life there.
He's going to have connections like his old.
It's basically kind of like his old hometown, but not really.
It's just where he went to high school, you know?
He's going to his old stomping grounds.
What they used to say, you know?Exactly.

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It's excellent way to put it. He's.
Going back to be like, that's that bar I used to go out to,
you know, that's that, you know.That's where I.
Stole all those bread ties. You know, that was where I was
learning. That's where I was going to get
better. It's stealing, you know, and I
did a keg stand over there. Remember, that's where that that
one time that guy offered me morphine and I said drugs are
for losers. How we've grown.

(52:56):
How we've grown, it's the same guy.
How we've grown. It's just drooling, bro.
I, I, that guy, I just sold thatto you.
He's like. Yeah, I thought you were a tree.
Yeah, he's just picturing other people.
Wait a second. Yeah, you, Ronald.
Oh, my God. You're Ronald Tree.

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Oh, my God. I always knew I had a brother.
Ronald Tree. How you doing?
Careful. You almost falled.
No, but seriously, we're relieves.
You're like, just out here in public.
It's embarrassing for the family.
You need to puzzle it on. Yeah, you're naked.
You said you will later. How many months?
Well, that's a lot of leads to cover.
OK. I'll love it.

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Gonna have to invent earmuffs for trees.
Hold on. I'll be back.
I'll be back. Yeah, he's just literally
talking to a tree. We're gonna fly them in over the
canopies. Yeah, he's just talking.
To a tree. And that's when Ronald True
accidentally invented Agent Orange.
Man ahead of his time. He's the antithesis of Saruico
Kiuchi, and I love it. Yeah.

(53:59):
He's he's just inventing all thebad things, the stuff that
doesn't help. So you 2 just like modestly had
so many influences across the world.
You're just so happy to go look.Yeah, Ronald.
True. Here's a fun thing.
And I think it's the best way tounderstand the name True because
it really is like a like a like a classic, like a Greek comedy,
Right. The thing about the truth is it

(54:22):
also defines everything. That it's not Ronald True is
everything but his intention. Exactly.
Yeah. It's truly a fucking comedy in
that sense. And the classic in that name,
the word yeah. Yeah, I don't know if you saw
that the new celebrity death match actually was going to have
Surya Kikiyuchi versus Ronald True in a Ladders and Tables

(54:47):
match. Oh Ronald troop killed Ceruico
QG up but that did not affected me as a back again.
Should have saw that one. Coming.
Yeah, you should have. Dan, didn't you read the?
Fucking bio No I didn't. Anyways, now moving on.
Oh, Ronald, true, he's in a plane.
He's. Oh, what's that?
Oh, everybody, it's a tragedy. Yeah.

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Now the medical staff is coming in.
Ceruco's coming up. He's giving him last rice up.
Oh, but he's getting up again, he said.
Give me that morphine. I am in.
Who is going to go now? Honestly, I don't.
Know. Never ending battle.
It was funny because right before he died, Ronald True,
right before he went to court, Ronald True was actually sent

(55:31):
over to Japan and he was teaching them how to fly.
They took it wrong as it was like oh when oh are we supposed
to crash the planes into stuff? Joey No, no, no, no, no.
He defied with. Everything he was not.

(55:51):
That would be that was that's fucking golden.
Ronald sure gets sent to Japan as an undercover agent, as a
flight and. Teaches.
Churchill's like, I know just the guy.
Yeah, I went to school with them.
Accidentally teaches them, showsthem the art of crashing blades

(56:13):
all. Right, so we're going to land on
the deck. Oh my God, he took down the
ship. Y'all we need to do that I love.
It honestly we should do that'd be a fun one.
We should do an episode about like, the, the brainwashing and
the, like the cult mentality that was built up around
kamikaze pilots. Yeah.

(56:34):
That. Would be nuts.
He never went to Bedford. Instead he headed straight to
London where other than meeting up with Francis at the end of
January, not a whole lot is known in terms of what the hell
he was doing for the rest of January.
But what can be stated as a matter of fact when the records

(56:59):
pick back up later is that he was living a somewhat affluent
vagrant lifestyle in the West End, staying at and scamming his
way through various swanky hotels and Inns, all the while
making a name for himself among the movers and shakers of London

(57:21):
who all knew him as Major True. He was a party guy, well
dressed, boisterous, singing at every hip restaurant, club and
social event in town. Again, similar to his time in
New York. He is using the one Ronald True

(57:42):
talent he actually had, being able to quickly move through a
social scene, build reputation and make connections.
He went full on trust fund travel influencer.
Yeah, yeah, he's always, he's always working his way through
it. But I don't know if you ever

(58:03):
watched that TV show as documentary about Anna Delvy.
He is literally Anna Sorkin was her actual name but she
pretended to be like a German heiress and made like basically
was in New York and just got herway through it and almost got a
like $5,000,000 loan to build a art thing in it which is like

(58:28):
again. Did she start port make?
It till you make it. Did she start OK?
I have. The difference, yeah, he started
for I got. Respect for those cons that that
shit. I do too.
I'm here for that. Like, well, he also he also in
these rooms. The reason why he's so good at
it and why he's like portrayed is good at it is because while
he was in the military, they allknew him and they all knew his

(58:52):
exploits were bullshit. So it's like, I mean besides
like the the top. Brass at the.
Point, you know, but like peoplewho are like with him day-to-day
are just like this guy's bullshit.
But like the people that are upper crust, the like the social
elite. I guess at this point he could
lie and they probably wouldn't know the difference because he
could say he was on the battlefield and they're just

(59:13):
like, oh, cool, you know, cool all you were on the battlefield.
Tell us. Oh yeah, he learned how to be a
better con man in the uniform ofMajor True in New York.
Now he's doing it in London. But unlike his time in New York,
where he was conning his way through society, going after
girls and new careers, this timehe was certified as a violent

(59:37):
schizophrenic with a rippling morphine addiction, extreme
paranoia and a score to settle with the man who had been
ruining his life, Ronald. True.
He's still partied, though you're being missing from his
family for more than a month. His wife managed to contact him

(01:00:00):
and they met up the end of January in London.
He was affectionate, appeared happy and seemed to be doing
well. Confident as ever, convinced her
within reason. That he was working with a quote
Mr. Davenport to pursue an exciting job opportunity and
there was nothing to worry aboutpressed for more details he

(01:00:23):
literally pulled one of those ohoh when you look at the time
moves and said he had to hurry back to Bedford gave her a kiss
and a party out before departing.
She left feeling cautiously reassured, which looking back
now makes me think she wasn't there for the speech he gave at

(01:00:45):
the Tarquah Mines. True had to do this though.
He had to protect his family, not from his self, but from the
man. He was finally going to settle
the score with the other Ronald True, and to do it he had to be
like a lone wolf stalking another lone wolf who had taken

(01:01:07):
out a loan in the first lone wolf's name.
It is, but solo hunting a doppelganger is fucking boring
and True would probably break out in hives if he didn't have
someone to brag to. Basically what I'm saying is
every hero needs a sidekick, andRonald True was no exception.

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Luckily, Destiny heard his call and a week later would deliver
to him everything but a bow tie on a Robin to his Batman,
forming A-Team ready to change the world as the most mediocre
Dynamic duo in history. Socializing with a group of
friends, a portly average looking fellow approached and

(01:01:54):
was introduced to Major True. His name, Mr. James Armstrong,
currently between jobs, had recently been laid off.
He was single, broke and lived at home with his mom, a catch it
all the time in the world and nothing to do while Major True

(01:02:16):
had all the money and a mission on his mind.
Jokes aside, Armstrong was the perfect wingman and within days
of meeting, the two became inseparable, spending son up to
last call, hanging out at the finest restaurants, clubs and

(01:02:36):
bars that London had to offer. This friendship brings up an
important point. Everyone knew immediately that
Ronald True was a lunatic. Most folks, including Armstrong,
considered him what Crazy but harmless.

(01:02:57):
But the Armstrong further defending this view in court
later by saying that True's overthe top stories made him
entertaining and fun to be around as he paid for them to
take whatever pleasures they wanted from the city's
potential. And that's why Armstrong said,
quote, sure, how much will you give me for it?

(01:03:18):
When True asked to buy his handgun now the reason he needed
it and I am quoting directly from testimony quote.
I'm now doing. Civil flying and make frequent
trips. To the continent, often with
valuable cargoes. But this present employment
comes with some risk. There's always a chance that

(01:03:41):
I'll have to make a forced landing in a lonely and
dangerous neighborhood. And therefore I'd be glad to buy
your automatic pistol. End Quote.
But that is yes. That's.
Lonely and dangerous neighborhoods in Europe.
First off, a lonely neighborhood.

(01:04:03):
Yeah, he just, he's just trying to come up with reasons of why
he is being very British, I feellike.
A rural region of the continent,which I just love that that was
slang for the. Rest of Europe besides England,
The continent. You know that one over there,
losers. It was becoming anything but

(01:04:24):
that which is the. Kind of funny thing.
Well, when asked if he saw any warning signs that may have
inspired hesitation to sell truethe gun, he said he did notice
quote he had a preference for going about hatless and quote

(01:04:46):
which for the love of God gets mentioned by almost everyone at
some point in this. That is the craziest thing that
he's ever done. He just goes hatless.
And I guess that wearing, not having a hat at this time was
like not wearing any pants anywhere.
You know, it's just like, Oh my God, he's hatless.

(01:05:06):
I don't even think they would have even noticed you didn't
have pants on if you didn't havea hat on.
A hat. My eyes go tupped up bottom.
This makes no sense. Bless.
Nobody ever looks at your shoes.So he was probably just like he
wore probably wore the fanciest shoes and then there was like,
but he doesn't have a hat. Do you wear shoes with a lot of
hats? Yeah, a hat is just head shoes.

(01:05:27):
So with all fairness, maybe he was just too taken back by
True's hatless head to notice the first thing True did.
And by first, I mean before Armstrong even had time to fold
the cash she was given, True started filing off the heads of

(01:05:49):
the bullets he gave him with thegun.
Which is what you can do at hometo make bullets more lethal.
They'll expand wider on impact with a body, causing more damage
when they enter and start knocking all around.
Yeah, which is going to do more damage going through a a needle

(01:06:11):
or a sledgehammer that's just bouncing around like a ping pong
ball, Like, yeah, it's basicallywhat that means.
It's for very close, like point blank range, shooting somebody
and making sure that it's the most painful internal issues
possible. To to think about that too, as
he was getting the bullets and he's just sitting there watching

(01:06:32):
him. He's just like looking at his
watch like as he's like filing off.
He's like, can can we just go drink some more?
And he's like, no, I got to finish this before we go
somewhere. I mean, honestly, you might have
been honest. Like I think like 90% of major
truths charm was folks were literally hypnotized by him
having a top of a head that was uncovered.

(01:06:53):
I mean, that was like walking around with with with titties
out, you know what I'm saying? Like it was just like I can't
perform. Basic functions these days,
which is another reason why I support Topless for Everyone
Act, a new bill that I just made-up, which I feel like Trump
would sign if it went in front of him.
So everybody, let's get behind this, let's get in front of

(01:07:16):
this, and most importantly, let's get on top.
I second this motion. Moving on.
So Armstrong gives him the gun. It's it's pretty fucking
customary that when you buy a gun, even from like a a store or
whatever, you know, like the theregistered ways, you get a small
box of ammunition with it. I mean, it's kind of weird not

(01:07:40):
to, you know what I'm saying? And if you don't, you at least
buy it at the one is gave them all the ammunition with it.
And just like immediately he's like, and he just starts filing
off the heads. Something that I'm assuming
around the time of World War One, a lot of folks and culture
was very aware of how to kill people at close range.
Oh yeah, yeah. This was common knowledge,

(01:08:02):
whatever. So in all fairness, that might
have been niche knowledge and maybe Armstrong just didn't know
that. Or maybe he was just getting too
excited, but the business opportunity true was starting to
tell him about while filing the bullets he was going to put into

(01:08:23):
the gun. It was just a little plan he'd
been thinking of where they could form a secret Society of
hitmen. What?
What if we start a secret Society of enterprising spirits
who would undertake too well, put away anybody that anybody

(01:08:46):
else found objectionable at a rate of Ababa knob and quote
Ababa knob translated from old timey.
Why me means a shilling to fuck someone up or a shilling to kill
somebody so cheap as fuck will kill anybody.
He's sanding off the head of bullets to make it more lethal.

(01:09:07):
Talking about just going out andkilling anybody for anybody as
cheap as possible. Ronald True is basically acting
like a 7 year old who just founda foam sword.
He's just like what if? What if I What if I started
fighting quite. Yeah.

(01:09:27):
And parents who give their kids too many chores.
Yeah, the delusion is like coming out.
Yeah, Armstrong unfazed, baby. Staying true.
It's literally he's just like, you know what?
Yeah, I like him. He's very eccentric.
But you know what I want to say though?
Everybody enjoys watching the plane go down except for the

(01:09:47):
people on it. So he's trying to act like he's
this fly on the wall. He's he's double duting it.
He's acting like a family on thewall and he's watching this
plane slowly descend. He doesn't care.
He's just talking to his grandkids like you have no idea
what we used to have to do to watch reality TV.
Yeah, the only thing he had to create it.

(01:10:08):
The only thing that he actually,he didn't even have to create
it. He was just watching it like
from. I was the GoPro.
Yeah, yeah, he literally was. He's the video guy in the
Instagram reels. He really is.
He's just taping this being likeno, you should do this and like
egging him. On too.
Because he's like, what do you need?
What do you need? Here's a gun, you know, like,

(01:10:28):
oh, you need a gun? Cool, I got you.
I got you, bud. Just blamey.
And so the guy's giving up moneyand he's like, OK, great.
Cool. I'm I'm here for it.
Whatever you want. Yeah, so with this henchman
sidekick Armstrong willing and oblivious True with a loaded gun
at the ready, the two wasted no time making a name for
themselves around the city as they partied Harder and Club

(01:10:52):
hopped around London like it wasa bachelor party in Las Vegas.
Every single night, while diningat the finest restaurants and
blowing through money during theday was in a week being
introduced, they were already gaining guest access to
exclusive members only clubs around London's hip West End.

(01:11:13):
But February the 8th, True's mission kill, his doppelganger
became unexpectedly derailed while partying at a place called
Murray's Dance and Supper Club. It was here he met a woman who
soon regretted going out that night.
Her name was Misses Wilson, a club member who, after being

(01:11:35):
introduced to the two men, immediately realized something
was seriously wrong with Major True.
And after she finally was able to look away from his hatless
head, she also saw that he had been staring at her with the
same gaze. Multiple people across multiple
continents. Described as the eyes of a

(01:11:57):
lunatic. He looked like a lion hunting
gazelle or cat. A laser pointer.
Either one's same intensity and same thing.
Sure had become hyper fixated onMrs. Wilson who after safely
leaving that night ran into homeand Murray's again the following
evening. Keep in mind this is a private

(01:12:18):
club. He was a non member.
She had probably thought it was safer to be there in most other
places. Oh yeah, and if he's not a
member then, and she hadn't seenhim there before admin
introduced him, she there's a highly likely chance that he's
probably not going to be there every night.
He's going to be going to a different place.
So it's like. Exactly.

(01:12:39):
Yeah, it tracks that she's just like, I'll go back because at
least here, yeah, you're right, I'm protected.
You know, I, this is my, my club.
Yeah, I know like 40 people hereat home.
I'm alone. Where am I going to feel safer?
Yeah, but somehow he was back. And this time he quickly
isolated her doing that douche bag body language thing people

(01:13:01):
do in loud clubs, you know, where like they start off a
small talk, but then quickly step between the person and the
group of friends that they were with, you know, like, I don't
know, there's no name for that. But it's like you can't just say
like isolate them, but it's likethere's like a very specific
move. I've seen it where it's just
like at concerts or like at clubs or whatever with like

(01:13:24):
people that I'm like dating and like somebody comes up and like,
intentionally splits between US and starts be like, hey, are you
here with anybody? And it's like, yeah, you just,
well, what, Can't hear you anyways.
Hey, you're really cute. Like that kind of shit.
You know, that's that's what he did, right.
And he's coming with that New York energy.
So he's got some like, hip shit the Europeans can't even

(01:13:45):
comprehend. Yeah.
Anyways, True soon got Missus Wilson completely separated from
our friends and sitting trapped by True on the inside seat of a
booth it. Is the worst.
Once there, he proceeded to not shut the fuck up about himself

(01:14:05):
for hours, with the exception ofoccasionally zoning out and
staring off into space, then randomly snapping back to
reality and picking back up where he left off.
That shit is creepy. Oh yeah.
He's like And then on Tuesday I was going to. 10 second pause go

(01:14:29):
down to the the new store that they built up and it's just like
like you are watching somebody snap in and out of reality while
they're in the middle of trying to intimidate dude, I don't know
this is. She's desperately trying to make
eye contact with anybody walkingby being like.
You know, like. Help help somebody I I like need
you to like help me out of. This situation, I'll take that,

(01:14:51):
Yeah, yeah. She starts working there.
Pick this up, she starts like. Working there, she's like, hold
on, I got to come in this table,you know, like dude desperately
trying to get away. Yeah, dude, this is, you know,
these are like dark corners of old clubs in fucking London, you
know what I'm saying? Like, this is like, she's
isolated. She is trapped.

(01:15:12):
This is everything that I'm sureshe grew up learning to be
worried about and that, sadly, people are still being, you
know, raised to worry about around shit.
But eventually, and probably to trick him into letting her out,
she asked if they could go dancetogether.
Right. Good move.
Makes sense. Solid should satisfy all of his,

(01:15:35):
you know, egos and trapping her.True.
Replied can't dance through to my my hip injury.
And then pulled out a gun. And said, if I ever see you
dance with somebody else, I'll kill you.
Then he laughed and put it away,trying to pass it off as just
dark humor. It's even more fucked up about
this whole situation that True had been pulling his gun out and

(01:16:00):
threatening almost everyone he talked to since the day he
bought it. Quote.
It is worth noting at this pointthat all of True's male
acquaintances, even those who regarded him as quite mad, none
saw in his conduct anything sinister.

(01:16:20):
Even his habit of carrying a loaded revolver does not seem to
have been taken seriously by men.
But with women, the case was different.
End Quote. Same shit that went on with
Armstrong was just kind of like,obviously nothing wrong with it.
Yeah, I mean, he's crazy, but whatever.
Like. Yes, he goes fine.

(01:16:42):
He's fine. His free body was giving this
dude a fucking pass. Which fuck if that's not the
story of his life. But I will say in in a sense,
and why she probably why she probably like still went to the
corner and talked to him is because he, I'm going to say
this in very, very loose quotes.He is a war hero in quotations.

(01:17:06):
He's a major and his stories probably centered around this.
I would say still, even in theseclubs, because if he's getting
around this, they probably don'tknow that he didn't serve,
especially the civilians that might be there, and so I
wouldn't. Imagine that this is.
He's regaling. Well, no, I mean at this time,
honestly. Like may sound weird, but like

(01:17:28):
especially with like a World Warveterans were a diamond dose.
Everybody was a fucking veteran like, you know, but.
Not a major because he was an officer and not a There wasn't a
whole lot of officers around. Maybe in the club, this club,
but. I don't think his status had
anything to do with it. I've I've seen dudes do this
exact same shit. Yeah.

(01:17:48):
No, I get that. So, oh, going sweetheart, when
they try to walk. Oh, I'm sorry.
Excuse me. No, don't worry not Hey, come
on, sit down. Just like my friends are over
there. No, no, no, it's OK.
And just push a little bit harder.
But not to, you know, like that.Really fucking douchebag
vulturey. No, he's definitely doing that
for sure. I don't see any of this shit as

(01:18:09):
willing on her. Part No, I mean that like
because he was a ward war hero in this in and I put that in
quotations, I feel. Like he has to be OK ish somehow
somewhere. He has to be, he has to have
some kind of like redeeming qualities or that maybe she felt
like he might have shell shock too, because back then they

(01:18:30):
didn't know especially. Everybody fucks.
Me, especially in the club when he's talking and I'm not saying
that she was OK with it, but I'msaying that maybe she's in her
mind, she's thinking, OK, this guy, like he's fucking probably
dangerous and I can tell 'cause he's got that lunatic stare. 90%
of the men I see have killed other men, yeah.
Yeah, and they probably all havethat long distance stare, that

(01:18:51):
thousand mile stair. So I don't think that she's
accepting of it, but I think that there's still are parts of
the society that are accepting. Of it, there's nuances.
Yeah, yeah, that maybe you've got.
Her you're not dating a man unless he's killed like 20
Krauts basically. Like it was just like that's
just because guess what? He fucking died if he didn't.
Yeah, oh, for sure. Yeah, the killer Biko.

(01:19:13):
Well, after threatening to kill Missus Wilson, True proceeds to
tell her the real reason he has the gun, saying only lightly
paraphrasing here quote. Sorry to scare you like that.
It was. Just a joke.
Actually, I have this thing for protection, you say?
Lately, there's been a lunatic. Running around the West End,

(01:19:37):
he's dangerous as hell, Known criminal who among many many
other things been forging checkseverywhere I go.
The bastard he's armed too, has a gun just like this and keeps
threatening random people. Anyways, unlike that asshole, I

(01:19:59):
went to Scotland Yard, explainedthe situation and got permission
to carry this Ant. His fate will have it.
Deal with them once and for all.What's his name?
Oh, his name? Ronald True.
End Quote. And she's just like, oh, OK, I
got to go. It's a, it's time.

(01:20:20):
Yeah. Bro can you put yourself into
her experience where she's like.Don't know baby, just down over.
Here. And you're like, what the fuck?
It's like if you dance with anybody, I'll fucking kill you.
And it's just like, oh, OK, OK, what the fuck?
And he's like, no, no, no, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to scare you.
I didn't mean to scare you like that.
No, but I actually have permission.
I have permission from Scotland.You're to go back to what you're

(01:20:42):
saying about like, he's a major in this and that.
It's like, OK, OK, maybe I'm notas threatened as I thought it
would. Yeah.
No, no, no, no. It's just crazy.
There's this guy out there. He's fucking insane.
And you're like, OK, all right, what's his name?
Maybe I've heard of him. It's my name.
Anyways, I'm looking for like, yeah, that's where you're just

(01:21:06):
like, oh, oh, I'm not equipped. Yet she's just like I am not
equipped to handle this. I got to go.
I'm assuming there weren't subtitles in the conversation.
She was just hearing him say Ronald true but in his fucking
mind he was spelling it TREW. He's like, yeah, Ronald true.

(01:21:26):
And she's like. You your name as you're waving
this pistol that you also said. Just like this was.
Going around yeah, yeah, bro. Again, this goes to the he's
slipping into menace. We have like a minute for minute
breakdown of like as his shit deteriorates and it's like he is
explaining himself. It's This is why I've been so

(01:21:49):
deep in this case where I'm justkind of like, whoa, this is a
deep dive into the actual psychology, you know, like the
moment experience. Yeah, rarely do we get to ever
see the this actual descent intowhere like you probably can see
some of the breaking points of this guy's like life.

(01:22:10):
Yeah. And and outside people being
able to testify that this I can see exactly when he broke, you
know, or when his like, his mental capacity kept descending
into where it's like, oh shit, he's going to kill somebody.
He's going to do something crazyand like.
And it's it's this kind of like moment to moment, you know, like

(01:22:33):
all these little things heading up that was enough to change the
actual legal system around sanity and responsibility and
accountability. It was like, damn, that's like
pretty fucking well documented. Yeah, yeah, pretty good case,
you know, like, yeah, yeah, maybe your law wasn't didn't

(01:22:54):
have these kind of references toit, you know, like it's.
Yeah. Boom.
You know, yeah. I mean you can read all the very
dry like and then you might experience this, but not these
interactions of as it develops. Yeah, you know.
Point blank, you know. Yeah, excellent way to put it.
Yeah, the situation's absolutelyfucking horrifying for for

(01:23:15):
somebody like Missus Wilson. Well, the next day, Ronald True
showed up at Missus Wilson's house and demanded she spend the
evening with him when she attempted to politely decline.
I have a headache. I can go out of something, you
know, whatever. He pulled his gun out and
threatened to kill her, jokinglyof course.

(01:23:35):
This became a new daily routine along with calling her house
constantly every single day and every single evening he would
show up and force her to go withhim to Murray's where she'd be
isolated from everyone while he fantasized about how he's going
to kill someone or how he's going to kill Ronald True.

(01:24:00):
In fact, the only time he wasn'ttalking about killing the other
Ronald True was when he was making fucked up jokes like when
he said. You know, I'd really love to to
meet your husband someday so I can kill him.
That's not fun. I'm joking, of course, but no,
for for real, I'm going to kill somebody.
For 8 days this terror kept up until finally, February 16th,

(01:24:26):
Ronald suddenly didn't call, didn't show up.
He actually apparently somethingelse to do, Went off to meet his
wife who and made a trip into town to check on him.
Good call. Well, like the last time when he
was kind, happy and affectionate, this time he was

(01:24:51):
hostile, threatening, speaking erratically and showing her a
gun. In between tears and the little
she could gather between his disjointed statements, the
business deal with Mr. Davenporthad fallen through.

(01:25:12):
True was ruined. Unfortunately, he was going to
have to leave her. Frances left their encounter
heartbroken, confused and scared.

(01:25:34):
Her husband was now past the point of reason, loose on the
streets of London and carrying aloaded gun.
And that's where we'll pick backup next week with Ronald True
Part 3. Oh my God, surprise me with

(01:25:55):
another part. I did it, motherfucker.
No, this shit's fascinating. And it.
Seems like there's a lot more it's.
Like how do you pick your favorite detail?
Yeah, you're completing the trilogy, so we're about to get
into. The the true.
Dark Night Rises the true It's the trilogy.
That's. The name of the third one?
That's the name of the third one, Ronald.

(01:26:17):
True. The trilogy ends.
Well, Joey, as promised up top, and I know they're still here.
You know why I know they're still here?
Because they're bad ass hardcoremotherfuckers and we fucks with
them. You know where we fucks with
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(01:26:37):
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(01:27:24):
I won't share on air, that the word podcast was in it.
I haven't had a chance to check it out, but I've noticed and I'm
going to. I'm excited about that.
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of the sexiest producer tear. I'll be Kitty.
Shout out to y'all. Y'all make this possible.
We were impossible before. Y'all have helped make this.
Possible. Possible.
Yeah, truly. Yeah, well, we appreciate all

(01:28:09):
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And I will honestly say Gil surprised me because I didn't
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Basically just follow us for free.
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Just got one of our lists for convo with you.
Yes, it's true, and we even got a great e-mail with a bunch of

(01:28:53):
documentaries for me to watch. So thank you Max for sending
that over. I am just now responding to it
and it'll be a long while beforeI can make it through that
freaking list of all that stuff you sent over so.
Thank you dude, Max delivered. You all are the shit.
You guys are the best. Stick around past the music,
which technically we're past, but I'll probably loop it in

(01:29:14):
editing and make this work. We love you all.
This is something that I wrote in middle of the episode or you
might remember this from the middle of the episode.
Read this line and while I'm pulling us out of the story for

(01:29:35):
a second, I want to point out a question and reasoning I
struggle with. Is it OK to make fun of Ronald
when this is the eventual reality of his mental health and
struggle with addiction? Ronald's case?
I say yes, but the guardrails for jokes should be placed

(01:29:57):
around the family who have a very real, very sad situation
involving a loved one that they just want the best for.
At this point in the story, Ronald has already displayed
nearly all the textbook signs ofschizophrenia with or to come
later, delusions, false and irrational beliefs, such as

(01:30:20):
being harmed or targeted despiteevidence to the contrary, or
possessing exceptional qualitiesor fame.
Disorganized speech and thinkingcould be hard for people with
schizophrenia to talk to other people.
The answers people with schizophrenia give to questions

(01:30:42):
A not E related to what's being asked.
And started hopping up at the right age.
He's 31 at this point in the story, say, right after one of
the rehab stints. So he was about 31 at the time.
In men's schizophrenia, the symptoms of it usually start in
the late teens to early 20s, which is when he graduated from

(01:31:05):
Bedford until he crashed his third plane.
So it's that timeline, right? So why yes, Well, I don't think
at all from anything that I could read with my unofficially
educated mind, but try to comprehend.
I don't think that he was schizophrenic when he was 5 and

(01:31:26):
torturing small animals or when he was 14 and his aunt told him
his mother had become incrediblyill and might die.
To which Ronald responded quote Oh well if she dies all their
property will be mine and give you her two best rings straight
away and honestly you can have anything you like of her things

(01:31:51):
and jewelry and quote remember how I mentioned in the story how
his aunt was kind of like triggered by having the IT was
this was him his whole childhood.
My point being, he was an asshole before schizophrenia set
in, and while mental illness canmost definitely affect a

(01:32:13):
person's behavior, the person themself is not their mental
illness. I've had multiple friends with
varying degrees of BPD, bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia.
I've been there when they couldn't afford medication to
help manage their symptoms. It's not funny in reality, but

(01:32:37):
in hindsight, while there were moments things definitely got
out of hand and there were very real risks of injury to
themselves and to others. Person having the episode was
always there. They were always a good person.
No sane person becomes a serial killer or murders in cold blood.

(01:33:02):
But 99% of people with mental illness don't kill or murder.
I think those people are generally assholes flavored
later in life with mental illness that removes the cuffs
from their deeper personality. Where is this line at?

(01:33:23):
I think that in Ronald True's case, he showed his true colors.
He was a fucking douchebag before the illness.
The illness exaggerated it it itamplified it.
He just became more of himself in in so many ways.
That's my opinion. That's why I think it's OK.
But I'm open to changing my thoughts and hearing questions.

(01:33:46):
Shoot us an e-mail contact had black cat that report.
Thank y'all for sticking around.This is honestly I'm true.
He's truly got me thinking, so stay hard, stay true people with
lady wiggle bits. Stay hydrated.
Stay hydrated. J&G out.

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