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I was out four Wheeling in the mountains in Seligman and my
girlfriend was ahead of me and Iseen this crazy thing off to my
lap and I said what the heck wasthat?
And she told me that they're allover up there.
So people think they're not real, but they really are.
I've seen them. About a week later I get a call
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from my coordinator who tells methat he has been released from
Hospice care. They have said that he was fit
to go home and he is still aliveto this day, knowing that I
know. Holy SH.
Oh, OK, I where are you on reporting?
Holy heck. And I was like, what are you,
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What are you talking about? And she brings up the camera
footage and it's literally just.Holy shit.
Wow. That's giving me chills, man.
Oh my gosh. In the beginning, it was a
terrifying moment. I even got on the phone and
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messaged one of my sisters to log on to the cameras and see
what was happening, and she saw it as well.
Wow, it was very powerful. Everyone, before we launch into
our deep dive into the Palmyra Toll murders, Joey and I wanted
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to take a moment to share some of our favorite highlights from
another show that we're a part of called Beer, Booze and
Boogeyman, which takes place thefirst Saturday of every month at
7:30 PM Eastern. The following is a collection of
our favorite calls. Hope you enjoy and hope that you
join us over there. Bye it was.
So interesting though, Jared. Hello.
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Caller, I'm calling to ask you if you guys believe in the
Bigfoot or the Jackalope. Well, we just talked to Bigfoot,
so. We now believe in Bigfoot.
He talked to Bigfoot. He was on the show.
He was just on the show. But Jackalope, that's an
interesting. One what is?
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What is the jackalope? Can you describe it to us?
It's like a antelope rabbit. It'll be probably 3 to 4 feet
tall. Has antlers I've.
Heard of it? You mean you can look it up?
They're real. Have.
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You seen anyone in Seligman, AZ with my own eyes?
Yes, I was out four Wheeling in the mountains in Seligman and my
girlfriend was ahead of me and Iseen this crazy thing off to my
lap and I said what the heck wasthat?
And she told me that they're allover up there.
So people think they're not real, but they really are.
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I've seen them. Wow.
What did you did you think to like try to get a picture and
maybe it was too fast or did that even occur to you like
cross your mind? I didn't even have my phone on
me and this has been like probably over 12 years ago, so I
wouldn't even have had a phone back then because I was slow to
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technology. Do you think they're like some
kind of scary creature, or do you think they're just some kind
of creature that's just around there?
Do you think they're mean harm? Oh, not harmful, No.
Oh, it's just kind of scary because I've never seen anything
like it before. No, they didn't seem vicious.
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So I've, I mean, I've obviously like I've seen the, you know,
the, the taxidermy Frankenstein jackalopes, right?
That's like kind of what was popular?
Did they look anything like thator was it like, Nah, they didn't
get that right at all? Well, I can't say that I've seen
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a Franken. I mean, it doesn't look like a
Frankenstein at all. I haven't seen their taxidermy
of a jackalope, but you have to see a picture.
So I mean that's they're pretty common at some of the like the
more rural bars in the Southwest, like I've seen them
at Dive. Bars in Southwest.
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They'll just have a fake Jack lope, obviously, where a local
taxidermist has taken a rabbit and taken antelope horns or deer
horns or small horns or whateverand put them on it and call it.
A Jack Lope. Pretty close, pretty accurate, I
would say. They're just a lot bigger than
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what They're a lot bigger than aregular rabbit.
So yeah. OK.
Well, I'm going to call on out of here all.
Right. Well, thank you for that.
Hop away. Have a good night.
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Honestly, I think that that could be a real thing.
I mean, there have been a lot ofrabbits with deformities that
happened and that have grown bigger.
Hello you are live. Can we get your first name and
where you're calling from? Hi, my name's.
Tim, I'm calling from Northwest Ohio too.
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Tradition Ohio, man. Anna, where you're from, that is
actually, yeah, technically I'm from about about a mile and a
quarter from where you where youlive right now because I got
your IP address. Tim, I know where you.
I'm just kidding. Tim.
Tim is my brother-in-law, awesome human being.
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And I asked him to call in with a story that I remember he told
me years ago. He's told me this multiple
times. It's always been identical.
And yeah, I'm very excited for Tim to share the story with
y'all. It's, it's not really a ghost
story, but it's a, it's kind of weird.
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I was, I leave for work at 2:00 in the morning and I was sitting
at a red light and the light across from me turned green to
go because they have a left turnlight.
And then my light turned green and I just sat there.
And I don't know why I just sat there, but I did and a car went
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across in front of me probably doing 4050 miles an hour.
And the guy, when he went acrossin front of me was like.
Slow motion looked at me and he had no face and it was like what
the hell I first of all why did I just sit at this light and
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then why did this guy go in front of me with no face when he
looked at me? You know, he's like a.
Black hoodie over him with nothing in it and I just like
was just sat there and the lightturned red and I still just sat
there for, you know, the next green cycle.
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Yeah, just kind of freaked me out.
Hey. So my story I'm I'm going to
make it short and sweet because my tractor is running off of GPS
and therefore if I'm on the phone I lose my mark.
My husband passed away a year and a half ago and my life
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changed overnight, literally overnight.
And he loves electricity. And I did not hear from him for
the first almost year. And then one night I was
watching television in his man cave and the lights started
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flashing. And it was the weirdest thing
and it was scary in the beginning.
And then I started asking questions, John, is this you?
And it would flash once I said, are you OK?
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And it would flash again and I would ask him questions.
And this went on for a long time.
And when I said, are you OK, it flashed so hard and so fast that
it was like a strobe light. He loves.
He loves electricity. I walked away.
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I mean, I was in the beginning. It was a terrifying moment, but
within a few moments it I was filled with love and I even got
on the phone and messaged one ofmy sisters to log on to the
cameras and see what was happening and she saw it as
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well. Wow.
It was very powerful. And the ironic thing about it is
that Kristen, who also is my sister, was asking John earlier
that day, unbeknownst to me, shewas in her car and she pulled
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over and she said, John, Beth could use you right now.
And I don't know what conversation they had.
But. That night it was just crazy.
And I have it. I mean, there was witnesses and
it's happened. It's never happened in that room
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again, but it did happen in my bedroom and in my bathroom.
And there's nothing wrong electric electrically,
electrically, the bulbs are good.
I've had electricians in there, everything is fine and it's
never happened again. Yeah, but.
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He also played with Kristen's lights one time in her car.
He loved. 3 * 3 times yeah, he does love his lights yeah he.
Loves his lights. Her and I have had these
discussions before and I'll haveto fill you all in later at a
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later date on, on, you know, a bunch of stuff because I've, I,
I think everybody in this familyhas heard from him at one point.
But that night, I remember that night being just significantly,
it was just significant. It was.
It was definitely him. It was him.
All of my sisters has, yeah. All of my sisters have heard
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from him because he loved us. I mean, it was kind of a
standing joke in the area that he had a harem because I have so
many sisters, you know, and he loved my sisters, just loved my
sisters. Call them his ladies.
Sounds like he was a damn good man.
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Like to be, to be you. Know he was A to.
The family, right? And and to be loved that he
deeply yeah, and he was a strongsilent type, but.
Oh. Yeah, words were few, but they
were very meaningful. They were mostly through Morse
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code. All right, troops, absolutely
all. Right.
Thank you. Thank you.
I got to get back to track. We're in.
Bye, bye, bye bye. Bye.
Thank you. Hello caller, you are live.
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Can we get your name and where you're calling in from?
Or be anonymous if you want. Let's go by the name Lilith
today and I am from a town in the Midwest area.
It's interesting you bring up the ha ha you just had because
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I, I'm a Hospice worker and I have been doing it for several
years. My very first Hospice client, I
walked in, he was a quite a young man who had severe
problems with his respiratory and his body was shutting down.
So we were called in and as I came in, he proceeded to tell me
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that he needed to get something off of his chest before he died
because he wouldn't be able to die unless he did.
And I, I have a ministry background.
So of course, you know, I, I open the floor to his request.
And he then proceeded to tell mea story about when he was 10
years old and his uncle had found out that his other uncle
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had violated some children and his uncle had put him up to
murdering what would be his brother, right?
So his uncle and he did it and because of the situation of the
family, the cops kind of just were like, oh, OK, you know, it
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was an overdose. It was this, it was that and
they just let it go. So he ended up getting away with
it, but he lived with this pain of knowing that he murdered
someone in his family and got away with it.
And then as he got older, obviously the reality that his
his uncle had talked him into this situation started to bear,
you know, even more weight on him and he started, you know,
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using drugs and of that situation, which got him to
these health issues as they were.
Right. So we have this conversation and
I leave there and I'm just kind of in shock.
As I said, it's my first day on the job and I have this like
this heavy thing just like laid in my lap.
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About a week later, I get a callfrom my coordinator who tells me
that he has been released from Hospice care.
They have said that he was fit to go home and he is still alive
to this day. Knowing that, I know that he
murdered his uncle. Wow, holy.
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Okay. Does that bring up any questions
for you? Yes, it does.
We got we have to ask. It's it's kind of the the
question to ask. I mean, where, where are you on
reporting? Did you did you do anything?
Did you report or are you hanging on to it?
Well, I'm, well, I'm, as I stated, I'm a minister and I
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also hold other titles to where I unless he does it.
I I mean, I can encourage him, but I can't, I can't do that
myself, no. Totally holy heck is there Dang
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so especially as a as a ministers.
And you? There's.
Go ahead. Sorry, no.
No, you're good there. There's a little bit of a delay,
so apologies. But yeah, is there, what kind of
advice gets shared among folks within your fields, right?
Like folks specifically that, you know, ministers or even just
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within the Hospice field as a whole of like folks that might
be encountering things like deathbed confessions, you know,
these huge admissions? Is there like a, is there
training involved in this? Like what, what kind of goes
into it? Because I, I can't imagine this,
you know, things like this are rare in, in the lifespan of a
whole career. Right, So that's a really good
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question. So basic how this worker, I
wouldn't say there's training onit.
There's just kind of an understanding that when people
are in Hospice, they're on a lotof meds, they're going through a
lot of stress and everything they say might not be fact,
right? It might not be what is quote UN
quote real. So a lot of times I, I feel when
a lot of Hospice workers get these deathbed confessions,
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they're just like, OK, you know,Mr. so and so, and they just
kind of go about their day because the one thing it's a
really hard, it's a very difficult thing to digest some
of the things that we are that'sput on our altar in that
position anyways. And then you kind of add that.
And then you have, you know, that cognitive dissonance of,
oh, I should tell someone and you know, this person is dying
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and you know, their sins will beforgiven, whatever your beliefs
are, right. But as a, as a minister, all I
can do is encourage them to seekGod and to allow that space for
the physical part of man's law to work through that aspect of
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God. And most ministers are that way.
We, we get a lot of things put at our altar.
And you know, the reality of ourduty is we are the the ones at a
place where we're supposed to beable to hold that and to
understand that there's a divineplan behind that event.
So we just kind of encourage forward as we can and.
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That is that is rough. That's a lot to a lot to carry
and a lot of respect to you for for taking it out.
Yeah, I mean that, you know, I'mnot I'm not someone of faith at
all, but IA 100% respect the fact that you know, you you're
really making yourself a vehiclefor your faith.
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You're allowing to, to practice you're, you're applying
forgiveness almost in a sense like you're, you're helping to
aid in the process, if that makes sense.
I don't know how to how to phrase this, but that that's
such an intense moment to be catching confessions and
admissions and like the the mixture of emotions that has to
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be involved in that. Because you go from hearing
things like this to, you know, I'm sure many times folks
actually passing and then also having to console family maybe
with the thoughts of what the person just admitted still in
your mind, you know, like that'sa that's a hell of a
responsibility. That's a lot of respect to you
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for that. Yeah.
And I want to say thank you for offering this space because I,
you know, because of my work. And I think, you know, I have
held this for a really long time.
And you know, it's not, it's notEven so much these things
happen. And then it's like when they
stay alive, you know, there's this whole human aspect to it.
You know, I was like, oh, this person knows that I know this
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thing about them, right? That could that.
Could make for some awkward. Some awkward instances at the
post office just being like, oh,hey, I haven't seen you in a
while. Oh.
Gosh, especially if he if he wants.
You just stay out of that town, right?
What are the chances, what are the chances that he'll wind up
back with you when it is his time?
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Oh, you just gave me God question.
I didn't even consider that as an option, sorry.
And and if it is, you know, I guess we'll just be sitting
there and, and I'll just have tostart with a pray, you know what
I mean? I hope he doesn't come in with
being like all right, so I know last time was heavy but
something new happened but like no OK.
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You thought the last time was a wild wagon?
Yeah. I don't even like the Godfather
movies and I quit. I quit the clock.
I'm out of here. It's absurd.
Lord, you are testing me. Right, and I can't really tell
who's talking by the screams, but whoever was was mentioning
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about holding with these people.And you know, the reality is
too, you know, regardless of youknow what the title of minister,
you know, looking at that situation, he was a 10 year old
boy when that happened. You know what I mean?
Like, how do we, how do you, youknow, I always have so much
reverence for people who work Hospice work because, yeah,
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it's, it's this the finding the humanity and all these parts
that are just, you know, seemingly unattractive, but
they're real, you know, that it's really real moment.
And to like, you know, Hospice people just have this really
beautiful way of kind of bringing a a beauty to that
transition. So yeah, I appreciate you guys
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having this line open and kind of offering the space because I
I would have smile and with thison me and it it feels nice to
just kind of let it out there a little bit.
So in a in a got in the place worker and.
Been like I know someone that murdered somebody and just give
the deathbed confessions of other people each time you just.
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It's actually hold on, it's justbeen 1 murder confession for
thousands of years, just passingaround like a monkey's paw.
Is there that? 'D be the worst.
Paying it forward of this, yes. What, what's the so, so
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especially around like Hospice, if you heard any from other
folks, maybe even like stories where you, you heard it from, I
guess like a peer Co worker, youknow, your acquaintances in in
the fields. And even if they didn't believe
it, let's and we can always lighten the mood here.
What's the funniest deathbed confession you've heard?
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Has there ever been a funny deathbed confession?
I guess I should start with that.
I, yeah, I would say there's a lot of what I would consider
humorous deathbed concessions because there's, there's things
that we, we genuinely believe inour lives that are like really,
really bad, you know, and we'll like carry that shame for like
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our whole lives. And I like the funniest one was
quite recently, actually. It was like a 94 year old woman
and she was talking about how when Coca-Cola came into those
machines for the first time and her mom didn't have the money to
get one of the Cokes out of the machine.
And so she stole one of the Cokes.
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And she held the guilt of stealing this Coke literally her
whole life to the point that shehad to tell me because she felt
it was like what was holding herto earth.
And it was just, it was beautiful and it would like,
broke my heart all at the same time, you know, because I think
it's so it was so minutely small.
And the fact that she actually felt conflicted about it shows
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that she's a good person, you know?
You know, But it was, it was funny and enduring and flight,
you know, considering everythingout.
Yeah. I'm gonna have to warn her from
beyond the grave to Coca-Cola has some very, very good legal
teams and they might go beyond the grave.
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I have a Ouija board in court being like you.
Know 19. 40s, fifties, probably 50s maybe when they first became
in the the machine 60s. Yeah.
We're gonna look for that $0.05.Look at.
That 5. Cents five plus eternal
interest, right? Yeah.
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It's gonna be ice cold. Wherever you.
Are you're just you can only do every time you drink something?
Man, I could only wish that I was such a good person that the
worst thing I ever did was steala Coke from a vending machine,
right? That's that's a good person,
right? There.
Oh, bless it. Yeah.
That is. Yeah, yeah, fantastic.
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Yeah, I agree. Anybody.
Wants to give their of us the beer of reason Boogeyman team.
Wants to give your deathbed confession right now.
She's on the line. She'll listen.
There you go. Yep.
I'm good at listening and I won't tell anyone other than
random people on the Internet anonymously.
(24:40):
I don't. Yeah.
And we we sincerely appreciate it.
We did was that was fantastic. Yeah.
Thank you. Yeah.
Thank you so much. And if you if you know.
Anyone else in? The field that also needs to get
something off their chest or something they know that they
need to get off their chest in asimilar thing.
Shoot em attacks let's share ourlive stream.
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We're going to be going for another half an hour or so.
This is we're we're doing it forcalls exactly like yours.
Fantastic. Thank you so much for for
calling in love. That was great.
Thank. You so much.
That was amazing. God bless.
Thank you. Bye.
Bye. Dang.
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Wow, that was awesome. That was.
All right, everybody can hear. Them Do you want to give us your
first name or nickname and whereyou're calling in from?
My name is Troy. I live in Northwest Ohio.
I was working in 2012 in a Dollar General as a manager and
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we had another manager at closing time and we we're
closing down the store. The front doors were already
locked and everything seemed to be going pretty normal.
I had heard walking around one of the the the food aisles.
So I go down the aisles and I just kind of like do little
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checks and whatnot. And I see like this got to be
like about four foot 10 little old lady.
And I was like, ma'am, the storeclosed already.
I can let you out the front if you need to.
And it just seemed like she wasn't hearing me.
So like I'd kind of like speak alittle bit louder, try to get
her attention. And it eventually got to the
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point where I had to like go up to her and I got super close to
her. Just looked like a normal old
lady, probably like sixties, 70s, somewhere around that age.
And I started having a conversation about how the store
is closing and how she needs to leave.
And, and I was just like, if anything, if you're not going to
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be long at all, I'll ring up your items.
And then I'm starting to get like a notification on my little
like walkie-talkie that my manager is telling me to come to
the office extremely quickly andit's an emergency.
And I, I was just like, I can, if you want to bring up your
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items to the, the register, ma'am, I can ring you out here
in a bit. And I go back into the office
and she's like, what were you just doing?
And I was like, there's a littleold lady still shopping out here
and she's like, what are you talking about?
You literally were just talking to like nothing.
And I was like, what are you, what are you talking about?
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And she brings up the camera footage and like, it's literally
just like starts with me, like kind of like looking down an
aisle and like talking. And there's nobody on the camera
the entire time that I was talking to this lady.
Oh wow. Oh, that's giving me chills,
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man. Oh my gosh.
It did. It did me too.
That that that trumped my stories at my dollar.
But I'm not working at Dollar General, but close enough.
That's awesome. Damien, do you have any follow
up questions? I know I.
Got some questions about that like or just some like so was
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there a long history of things like this happening?
Like did you, did you come across to anybody else like over
smoke breaks or anything like that where you're, you know, how
much did you talk about this afterwards while you were
working there? And was there any rapport from
other folks about similar eventsgoing on?
We had like no idea anything like this happened.
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The manager that I like caught me talking to an Mt aisle.
She had been working there for about 5 years before that and
she's like, I've never seen anything like this or even heard
anything like this. So like that was just crazy.
And like, we ended up showing a good majority of the people who
work there and even like the district manager came in to like
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take a look at it because his nephew worked there as a cashier
and his nephew told him about it.
And he was like, no way, I'm I'mcoming in right now.
It it just ended up being like this big spectacle between all
the workers that work there. That.
Is that is. Nuts, man, that is nuts.
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Have you had any other experiences like this, like you
know, like is are you going through life with like Damien's
style of magnet towards paranormal things or like you
know, is it was this kind of like your one and only like real
intense experience? Actually I was for, I want to
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say like the last 17 years or so, I've been a paranormal
investigator with DAPR up in Northwest Ohio.
A little thing that my my godmother put together little
ghost hunting group and we've done a whole bunch of stuff
throughout the state of Ohio. But yeah, just a little really
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long history of being able to see and experience these time
types of things. That's amazing.
You are live, Can we get your first name and where you're
calling from? Hello.
This I'm this is Bob. I'm calling from tech.
Bob. Hello, Bob.
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Cool. Hi, Bob, calling in.
Bob with Bigfoot Club, OH. Hey, yeah.
Thank you for calling in SO. What's going on?
Nada, we are. We are collecting stories.
OK, I got 1. I, I was the former Bigfoot
researcher for Texas Bigfoot Research Center in the early,
(30:46):
late 90s, early 2000s. And when we first got our our
website up and going, we would get, we were, our goal was to
get like stories, like least sighting reports in Texas, but
we end up getting them like nationally.
So we got one from Kentucky and it was this lady, and I hope I
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can say some of the stuff on here, but I got this one call
from this lady and she was she. So I end up calling her.
And so she said, yeah, I have a Bigfoot coming down the
mountain. I guess she was right, right
close to Appalachia. And so this Bigfoot would come
down the mountain and and she said because this Bigfoot wants
(31:28):
to have sex with me. And I said, OK, how do you know
this, this Bigfoot was coming down the mountain and it was
wanting to have sex with her. And I said, keep going.
And then I go, OK, I go, how canyou tell?
And she says, well, he's coming down the mountain and his his
(31:51):
junk is glowing whenever it comes down.
And so at the time, at the time we had my mentor, Luke Gross
with me and I asked him, I go, hey, I go, is that possible?
He says, well, Bob, you know, some, you know, there are some
phosphorescent mushrooms and youknow, maybe that maybe this
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Bigfoot got into it and, you know, and then touched his junk
and then now he's coming down. So, so she would, she would tell
me that he would, it would come down and like and like bang on
her trailer and, and so she would yell at it and then it
would eventually go away. And so we didn't, I didn't get a
chance to make it out to Kentucky, but I did reach out.
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I did reach out to a local Kentucky group and see if they
could take it. They never got back with me on
it. So that's my story.
Bob, I need to hop in real quick.
Can you find that e-mail you sent to the group in Kentucky?
Because I think that that would be a fascinating e-mail if this
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is true. Hey guys.
No, we haven't talked much, but I got a question to ask.
Wow. OK.
Hello, you are on. Can we get your first name and
where you are calling from? Yep, you there.
Yep. Whenever you're ready.
You. You.
Are you are live? And if you're not, then we're in
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a lot of trouble. Oh, hey.
Oh, I'm done. Oh, good.
Good. Yeah.
This is Gregory Fedora. Hi, Kristen.
Hi, Gregory. I'm just on South Mountain here
in Maryland, so I'm calling fromMaryland.
And so so my story goes back to about 199192.
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I used to live in Dayton, OH, and it was at the US Air Force
Museum and I worked there and the US Air Force Museum is one
of the largest and it's way bigger than the Space and Air
Museum at the Smithsonian. And they have one of one of the
planes that dropped the atomic bomb over I think over
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Hiroshima. And the story was at night you
would go and there's these huge lights that are about 20 feet
long. They're big, like fluorescent
lights. They're huge sayings.
It was super heavy. And at night, supposedly it
would like swing like a pendulum.
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And I, I was kind of friends with like the security guards
who are actually MPs for the AirForce.
So they're like legit like dudeswho were tough and you know, I,
I got to talking to them and they were telling me about it
and these guys were like, you know, they, they thought they
were bad asses all the time. So but they would not patrol at
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night because they said all thisweird crap happened because all
these like airplanes were like from World War Two, World War
One. Some had been in crashes, some
had people have died, you know, during the war in them.
And but I was fascinated by it. And I one evening there was a
big event and they had like all these people there and I, I
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volunteered to work because I was like kind of hoping I'd get
to go in the back and see some stuff at night.
And near the end of the event, one of the guys came up to me
and said, dude, you want to go check out the, the thing in the
back. And I was like, oh, yeah, let's
do it. And so we go walking around and
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we went around the corner and I look up and know why like that
light was swinging like a pendulum, none of the other
lights but the one over the one airplane was just swinging back
and forth like and it never slowed down.
And we stood there for like 5 minutes and there's, I cannot
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tell you, I have no idea how or why it was doing it made no
sense. There's like no, like even if
there was an air duct near it, there's no way it could be
blowing enough air to get it to do that.
And there was no air duct near it.
Oh, it was on the other side of the hanger.
And it was like blew my mind. And he was like, you want to go
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back in there? And I'm like, no, no, I don't
want to go back in there. Like I was like, I don't want to
know what else is going on in there.
I got. Just seeing that was enough for
me. So you were with the rest of the
crew after that of just like, yeah, you know what, not so much
going out at night over there anymore was this.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like now the guy that went back
there with me, he had like, likeother stories that he had told
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me about, and that's why he's going to see if I wanted to go
there. And one of his stories was.
And the reason he quit going washe at first he's all about,
yeah, I'll go. I don't care.
And as he was patrolling, he went around the corner and right
next to that big bomber is a wasAB 17 bomber.
And he was standing there and heheard this like clicking noise
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like click, click, click, click,click, click, click, click,
click, like. And he's like, what is that?
And he turned and he looked and one of the machine guns from the
B17 was pointed right at him andmaking the clicking.
And he was like, holy shit. He was like.
And he said he goes. That was the last time I ever
went back in there. And I go, dude, yeah.
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And then he was like, you want to go see if it's doing it?
I don't know. I don't want to see that.
If anything's going to put you in your place, it's having a
full fucking machine gun pointing at you trying to shoot.
You right. Like, right.
Yeah, yeah. While you're just doing your
job, you know? Wow, That's that is yeah, that
was my workplace. That's it.
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But I haven't experienced anything like CNA.
I mean, I've gone up to Gettysburg and I've done other
things. I've and like done some dial rod
stuff and I've had some weird answers and some weird
experiences like that, but like it would to that for some reason
that was the freakiest thing to me.
Like it just because I couldn't,could not come up with a reason
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why that light was moving with the downloads.
I, I could make up in my head like, well, maybe I'm doing it
or this, you know, but that, that, that light I, I to this
day of like, I cannot figure outhow that did that.
It's like, wow, was this so sorry?
If I missed this part, but like was this light above the
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aircraft that was also pointing a machine gun and trying to fire
at somebody, No. No, no, no, this was above like
there's, there's two airplanes that drop the hunt.
One was over Nagasaki and one was over Hiroshima.
The one that I think that was it1 is here in, in Washington, DC.
The other was in Dayton, OH. And it's the light that is right
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above that bomber and then the B17 bomber is right next to it.
And but the light is literally over the wingspan of this plane.
And it's like really like, yeah,if you go back there, like the
light is like at the same lengthas the wingspan of this huge.
Think it's AB28I can't. Remember, but there's going to
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be a. It's a big barn.
It's going to be one of those two airplanes, right, Right.
Yeah. Yeah, the airplane that killed
1,000,000 people, you know that?Yeah.
Like to this day continues to have a paper right on peoples
lives like just like yeah. Yeah, holy shit.
Yeah, you got to say. You got to think we're lucky
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here. That was cool, but kind of weird
and kind of and also kind of like because you know, possibly
why it's on it, you kind of feellike, oh man, yeah, of course.
Yeah. Like a million people vaporized
because. Yeah, it's.
Not just some spirit angry that they stubbed their toe or that
like, you know, like, you know, I don't know, diapers weren't on
sale or something. You know, there's, there's
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something mild going on with that aircraft, you know, like,
damn. Oh, yeah.
Well, well, thank you. Thank you for calling in man.
Well, thank you. Yeah.
I can't wait to hear the rest ofthe ghost stories that are.
Happening right man, Thank. You.
Oh, yeah. Thank you.
Night night Gregory, that is such an awesome story.
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Hello caller, you are alive. Can we get your name and where
you're calling from? Hi and my name is Melinda
Wolfram and I'm calling from Tennessee.
Hi, Melinda. Hello, Melinda, calling in.
Welcome. Very proud to be here.
Hey, Damien, how are you? Good.
(40:37):
How are you? Hey.
I'm doing good. Great to hear.
So what do you got for us tonight?
Well, I mean, Damian invited me to come on in and I am a psychic
medium, a psychic detective, andI've done the seances, I've done
a little bit of everything. And he, you know, told me that
you guys were doing this. He offered for me to come on.
(40:59):
Of course, I was planning on staying on as long as I could,
but I was called into work and some on my break and I thought
I'd give you guys a call real quick just to be able to, you
know, to talk about, you know, Icould talk about whatever you
guys want to talk about. Of course, my expertise is the
second detective work I do, but you know, I'm willing to talk
about whatever you guys want to talk about.
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This is interesting. Yeah, OK.
We got it for 15 minutes. What do you guys want to ask?
Quick questions. So let's go with it.
Well, I'd be curious. I'd be curious to learn a little
bit about maybe seances. That's something I've always
wanted to try, but I've never been in to one, never been
invited to one. Have you have you LED any?
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I have led a couple, yes. I was brought through and
taught, you know, I wanted to make sure I knew what I was
doing because a lot of people, you know, they go in and they,
you know, they play with the Ouija board, they do the
seances. And if you really don't know
what you're doing, you could getyourself into, you know, some
situations. But I was trained under Patty
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Negrie and she is just an amazing teacher.
And but yes, I, I've held a couple myself and you know, I've
done the tipping table. I've done all of that stuff.
So, you know, the seances is something that I really, really
enjoy doing. And, you know, there's certain
ways, certain techniques that you've got to know to be able,
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you know, for the protections ofeveryone involved.
OK. But I mean, they are just, you
know, the first time I'd done one on my own, you know, I was
sort of like, not for sure because you know how it is when
you're doing something new And but they can be really amazing
to bring spirit through. And I was doing 11 time.
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The second one I'd done, we a little, a little girl came
through and what was weird, you know, was that I was trying to
figure out who she was and the, the parents was in the room and,
and she, her dad always called her teddy bear.
And I said, whoever this little girl's here for, I said, she's
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saying that her dad caught her teddy bear.
Oh my gosh, you are to see her expression.
And so, you know, they, we went through and we, we've done
talking about it and then we know, we conversed with her and
she was like, she was only 7 when she passed.
And she was just wanting her parents to know that she was OK.
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And their, the father felt like it was that he could have done
more to save her. It was a drowning.
And but she was, you know, she was very adamant.
She wanted her parents to know that no one was at fault, that
it was her time. Even though it was hard, it was
her time. OK.
Can I ask how, how did she come through?
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Are you, are you a physical medium?
Are you channeling in these sessions?
I am a physical medium. I can see spirits.
So basically when what I see with spirit is they're like I
can see through them. I will see their features.
I was I can tell us what color hair they have, but I actually I
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can see through them. Wow.
Wow. Somebody, somebody else take it
or I'm gonna talk her her ear off.
Yeah, How long? How long have you been doing
this? And also real quick, if anybody
has any questions in the chat, please just start throwing them
in there. If you can put them in all caps,
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it'll help us see it. But yeah, how long have you been
in doing this? Because you also you do
detective work and stuff like that.
I imagine you didn't just, you know, pick up a psychic medium
work for Dummies book on, you know, Monday and started on the
weekend. Like it's just been like a
lifelong. Thing No.
Yes, I asked her to see in the spirit of the earliest I
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remember is 7 years old and I have done it all my life and I'm
56 now so I've done it for a long time.
You know, it was, well, I had two near death experiences, but
there was the incident when I was in school and I, it was 7
years old and we were in class and, you know, it was a Monday
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and the teacher was standing up there and she said that, you
know, one of our classmates had been in the accident over the
weekend with her parents and shehad died in the accident.
And I'm like, no, I'm like 7. She's at her desk because I
could see her and the teachers like, no, Melinda, you know,
stop that. You know, you're, you're
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upsetting the other students. And I'm like, I can fear she's
at her desk. You guys don't know what you're
talking about. And so it was, so I've done it
all my life and that I've turnedit into the, you know, mainly,
you know, I do connections for people now, but I, I do a lot of
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psychic detective work working with law enforcement and family,
OK. That's.
That's great that you do that. See, you're almost 50.
That's not at this point. So yes, yes, I've done it for a
long time. You've had like some really good
experience with families and things like that, like
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connecting them. Has there ever been like really
bad experiences that you've had?There's something that you've
been just like, I'm not going todo that again.
Well, I have been the two. Well, there was a family and
there was some things going on in the home.
And so a paranormal team called me in to to see what I got and
it ended up in a I've been through 1 exorcism and I do not
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ever want to do one of those games ever.
You know, they're very few and far in between.
You know, a lot of people think,you know, everything that's dark
is is demonic and that's not true.
But that's one of the worst things that I've been through is
to watch an actor actual exorcism, and that's something I
I did not care for at all. Yeah, that's a, that's a no go.
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Now that's a you had that experience.
And yeah, yeah, I'm good at all.Do you still get calls somebody?
Said, yeah, I mean it. If you know, if I'm really,
really needed on something, I will never turn nobody down,
even if, you know, it's something like that.
But I try to stay clear of that.What would you recommend to
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folks newbies to Ouija boards? What's your take on Ouija board?
Well, I have my own special one that I had made.
And if you don't know what you're doing, don't do it.
But also don't look at the Ouijaboard as something you shouldn't
do. Because to me, a Ouija board is
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no different than using tarot cards or Oracle cards or, you
know, whatever it is you're using, you know.
But if you do not know what you're doing, if you don't know
how to open and close and the prayers and everything that you
need to do, then you shouldn't be, you shouldn't be dabbling in
it. Yeah, that's what I would
advise. Do not dabble.
Make sure you know what you're doing.
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Yeah, yeah. Damian was just telling us, like
his his only experiences with the Ouija board.
He didn't know how to close it out.
He's in and out here on the screen.
He didn't know how to close it in and out.
What's the likelihood that something has stayed with him?
You know, if, if you don't do the proper procedures, and I
mean, there's a lot of steps that I do and I use holy water
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in my opening and closing. I use the, the elements because
I am Native American and so I'm very big about using the
elements. And but if I'll put you to you
this way, more times than not, Ihave been asked to come and help
on someone that actually worked on the Ouija board.
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And they did not know what they were doing.
And they did bring something in and they thought it was
something good and it wasn't. And it was, it wasn't demonic or
nothing. It was just something of a
darker entity. And so, you know, it's a, I'm
going to say it's a 5050 chance that you could bring in
something if you're not opening and closing in the right way.
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You hear that, Damian? And Damian, I can teach you how
to do it. Yeah, he might.
He might need some help. I think he's got, he's got.
Some I think he's got to do it. He's definitely got some darker
entities messing with his Internet did.
I beat you to. It Gil, did I beat you to it?
No, that was that was great. That was awesome.
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This, this honestly does explainso many things about how, like
the D boost is like constantly being plagued by just like
random knockings and crap and things falling down.
He's sending us these videos andstuff like every single day.
Like at this point, it's just like we the hours of highlight
reels we could put together fromlike a group chat.
So this explains a lot. This is also why you don't fuck
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with shit you don't know. That was the survival advice I
was giving just before you called.
Yeah. Yeah.
I love it. What I'm like, I don't know if
y'all are too, but I'm just kindof like overwhelmed.
I was expecting like one or two little stories, but it's like, I
don't know, I'm a full blown professional.
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I've got, you know, 50 years andI was just like.
I know, I know if I had. An hour.
We need more time. An hour with you, Melinda.
Oh my gosh, I would talk your face off so.
Well, girl, anytime I'm I'm open, I'm here.
Just hope in any way I can. And I love to talk too, but
unfortunately I was called into work and, you know, and I was
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like, Oh my God, I got to call them at least for 15 minutes.
And we really. Appreciate it.
But anytime you set the bar highanytime at all?
Awesome. And we do if you, if you have
just a like a minute, minute anda half left for one more
question. Thank you.
So yeah, a question coming in from the chat.
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Two things, wondering if she ever had a bad experience.
And the other question is how does she suggest I learn how to
use my tarot cards safely? Two different questions.
Feel free to grab either one or just ignore both.
I don't know whatever you want to do.
OK, so OK, the what was the first one?
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It was wondered if she ever had a bad experience.
It was coming from Tim Buckles. Yes, I had went with a
paranormal team and to to a house that was having a lot of
activity and I kept going down to this lake area.
And then like, you know, three days later, after it was all
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said and done and, and my kids were talking to me and they're
like mom and I and I looked out for what?
And they're like, what are you talking about?
And I'm like, what do you mean? What am I talking about?
And they're like, you were talking about stuff.
We have no idea what you're talking about.
And so then I had to call my medicine man and I had him to
come over and I had an entity, well, a spirit that was trying
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to what I call, how do I say this?
They're trying to blend with me.So, so that was was not a fun
thing. It took about a week to get that
taken care of. Of course, I had thought I'd
done everything appropriately and I had not.
And this is back when I was first learning about, you know,
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going on to with teens and helping them.
But now, and now I know what to do.
And now that will never happen to me again.
And that was like when I was in my 20s.
And as far as the tarot question, you know, I, I do hold
classes, I teach a lot. But you know, one of the things,
the first thing I would suggest for anybody starting out with
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tarot is to make sure that you do an opening prayer and a
closing prayer and, and ask for protection.
And, you know, if you use God, if you use, I use creator
because like I said, I'm Native American.
It's whatever you see as far as the higher being and, you know,
ask, ask for protection. Got you that.
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That's what I do. OK.
Do you hold your classes on via Zoom or Patreon or YouTube or
anything like that? I do hold it on Zoom.
And so yeah, I, I do that. I, I make my own essential oils.
I do a little bit of everything,guys.
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Cool. Awesome.
Well, thank you so much, Melinda.
We're not going to keep any longer.
We know you got to get back to work.
We're going to get all your yourcontact info from Damian on the
other side and let you get back to it.
But we really, really, really appreciate your call.
That was awesome For real. I.
Don't know if you can. Hear me, but thank you for
calling guys and like I said, anytime.
And Damian, thank you for inviting me on.
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And just like I said, Pat, I'm here to help and I'd be, I'd be
honored to come back on. Absolutely.
Yeah. Plan on it, girl, plan on it.
OK girl, I will talk to you thatsoon all.
Right, Melanie, have a good one.Bye.
You too. Bye bye.
(54:38):
That. Was awesome.
Wow, dudes.
I was out four Wheeling in the mountains in Seligman and my
girlfriend was ahead of me and Iseen this crazy thing off to my
lap and I said what the heck wasthat?
And she told me that they're allover up there.
So people think they're not real, but they really are.
I've seen them. About a week later I get a call
(00:20):
from my coordinator who tells methat he has been released from
Hospice care. They have said that he was fit
to go home and he is still aliveto this day, knowing that I
know. Holy SH.
Oh, OK, I where are you on reporting?
Holy heck. And I was like, what are you,
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What are you talking about? And she brings up the camera
footage and it's literally just.Holy shit.
Wow. That's giving me chills, man.
Oh my gosh. In the beginning, it was a
terrifying moment. I even got on the phone and
(01:05):
messaged one of my sisters to log on to the cameras and see
what was happening, and she saw it as well.
Wow, it was very powerful. Everyone, before we launch into
our deep dive into the Palmyra Toll murders, Joey and I wanted
(01:27):
to take a moment to share some of our favorite highlights from
another show that we're a part of called Beer, Booze and
Boogeyman, which takes place thefirst Saturday of every month at
7:30 PM Eastern. The following is a collection of
our favorite calls. Hope you enjoy and hope that you
join us over there. Bye it was.
So interesting though, Jared. Hello.
(01:52):
Caller, I'm calling to ask you if you guys believe in the
Bigfoot or the Jackalope. Well, we just talked to Bigfoot,
so. We now believe in Bigfoot.
He talked to Bigfoot. He was on the show.
He was just on the show. But Jackalope, that's an
interesting. One what is?
(02:12):
What is the jackalope? Can you describe it to us?
It's like a antelope rabbit. It'll be probably 3 to 4 feet
tall. Has antlers I've.
Heard of it? You mean you can look it up?
They're real. Have.
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You seen anyone in Seligman, AZ with my own eyes?
Yes, I was out four Wheeling in the mountains in Seligman and my
girlfriend was ahead of me and Iseen this crazy thing off to my
lap and I said what the heck wasthat?
And she told me that they're allover up there.
So people think they're not real, but they really are.
(02:55):
I've seen them. Wow.
What did you did you think to like try to get a picture and
maybe it was too fast or did that even occur to you like
cross your mind? I didn't even have my phone on
me and this has been like probably over 12 years ago, so I
wouldn't even have had a phone back then because I was slow to
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technology. Do you think they're like some
kind of scary creature, or do you think they're just some kind
of creature that's just around there?
Do you think they're mean harm? Oh, not harmful, No.
Oh, it's just kind of scary because I've never seen anything
like it before. No, they didn't seem vicious.
(03:42):
So I've, I mean, I've obviously like I've seen the, you know,
the, the taxidermy Frankenstein jackalopes, right?
That's like kind of what was popular?
Did they look anything like thator was it like, Nah, they didn't
get that right at all? Well, I can't say that I've seen
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a Franken. I mean, it doesn't look like a
Frankenstein at all. I haven't seen their taxidermy
of a jackalope, but you have to see a picture.
So I mean that's they're pretty common at some of the like the
more rural bars in the Southwest, like I've seen them
at Dive. Bars in Southwest.
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They'll just have a fake Jack lope, obviously, where a local
taxidermist has taken a rabbit and taken antelope horns or deer
horns or small horns or whateverand put them on it and call it.
A Jack Lope. Pretty close, pretty accurate, I
would say. They're just a lot bigger than
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what They're a lot bigger than aregular rabbit.
So yeah. OK.
Well, I'm going to call on out of here all.
Right. Well, thank you for that.
Hop away. Have a good night.
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Honestly, I think that that could be a real thing.
I mean, there have been a lot ofrabbits with deformities that
happened and that have grown bigger.
Hello you are live. Can we get your first name and
where you're calling from? Hi, my name's.
Tim, I'm calling from Northwest Ohio too.
(05:28):
Tradition Ohio, man. Anna, where you're from, that is
actually, yeah, technically I'm from about about a mile and a
quarter from where you where youlive right now because I got
your IP address. Tim, I know where you.
I'm just kidding. Tim.
Tim is my brother-in-law, awesome human being.
(05:53):
And I asked him to call in with a story that I remember he told
me years ago. He's told me this multiple
times. It's always been identical.
And yeah, I'm very excited for Tim to share the story with
y'all. It's, it's not really a ghost
story, but it's a, it's kind of weird.
(06:15):
I was, I leave for work at 2:00 in the morning and I was sitting
at a red light and the light across from me turned green to
go because they have a left turnlight.
And then my light turned green and I just sat there.
And I don't know why I just sat there, but I did and a car went
(06:36):
across in front of me probably doing 4050 miles an hour.
And the guy, when he went acrossin front of me was like.
Slow motion looked at me and he had no face and it was like what
the hell I first of all why did I just sit at this light and
(06:58):
then why did this guy go in front of me with no face when he
looked at me? You know, he's like a.
Black hoodie over him with nothing in it and I just like
was just sat there and the lightturned red and I still just sat
there for, you know, the next green cycle.
(07:20):
Yeah, just kind of freaked me out.
Hey. So my story I'm I'm going to
make it short and sweet because my tractor is running off of GPS
and therefore if I'm on the phone I lose my mark.
My husband passed away a year and a half ago and my life
(07:40):
changed overnight, literally overnight.
And he loves electricity. And I did not hear from him for
the first almost year. And then one night I was
watching television in his man cave and the lights started
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flashing. And it was the weirdest thing
and it was scary in the beginning.
And then I started asking questions, John, is this you?
And it would flash once I said, are you OK?
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And it would flash again and I would ask him questions.
And this went on for a long time.
And when I said, are you OK, it flashed so hard and so fast that
it was like a strobe light. He loves.
He loves electricity. I walked away.
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I mean, I was in the beginning. It was a terrifying moment, but
within a few moments it I was filled with love and I even got
on the phone and messaged one ofmy sisters to log on to the
cameras and see what was happening and she saw it as
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well. Wow.
It was very powerful. And the ironic thing about it is
that Kristen, who also is my sister, was asking John earlier
that day, unbeknownst to me, shewas in her car and she pulled
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over and she said, John, Beth could use you right now.
And I don't know what conversation they had.
But. That night it was just crazy.
And I have it. I mean, there was witnesses and
it's happened. It's never happened in that room
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again, but it did happen in my bedroom and in my bathroom.
And there's nothing wrong electric electrically,
electrically, the bulbs are good.
I've had electricians in there, everything is fine and it's
never happened again. Yeah, but.
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He also played with Kristen's lights one time in her car.
He loved. 3 * 3 times yeah, he does love his lights yeah he.
Loves his lights. Her and I have had these
discussions before and I'll haveto fill you all in later at a
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later date on, on, you know, a bunch of stuff because I've, I,
I think everybody in this familyhas heard from him at one point.
But that night, I remember that night being just significantly,
it was just significant. It was.
It was definitely him. It was him.
All of my sisters has, yeah. All of my sisters have heard
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from him because he loved us. I mean, it was kind of a
standing joke in the area that he had a harem because I have so
many sisters, you know, and he loved my sisters, just loved my
sisters. Call them his ladies.
Sounds like he was a damn good man.
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Like to be, to be you. Know he was A to.
The family, right? And and to be loved that he
deeply yeah, and he was a strongsilent type, but.
Oh. Yeah, words were few, but they
were very meaningful. They were mostly through Morse
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code. All right, troops, absolutely
all. Right.
Thank you. Thank you.
I got to get back to track. We're in.
Bye, bye, bye bye. Bye.
Thank you. Hello caller, you are live.
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Can we get your name and where you're calling in from?
Or be anonymous if you want. Let's go by the name Lilith
today and I am from a town in the Midwest area.
It's interesting you bring up the ha ha you just had because
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I, I'm a Hospice worker and I have been doing it for several
years. My very first Hospice client, I
walked in, he was a quite a young man who had severe
problems with his respiratory and his body was shutting down.
So we were called in and as I came in, he proceeded to tell me
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that he needed to get something off of his chest before he died
because he wouldn't be able to die unless he did.
And I, I have a ministry background.
So of course, you know, I, I open the floor to his request.
And he then proceeded to tell mea story about when he was 10
years old and his uncle had found out that his other uncle
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had violated some children and his uncle had put him up to
murdering what would be his brother, right?
So his uncle and he did it and because of the situation of the
family, the cops kind of just were like, oh, OK, you know, it
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was an overdose. It was this, it was that and
they just let it go. So he ended up getting away with
it, but he lived with this pain of knowing that he murdered
someone in his family and got away with it.
And then as he got older, obviously the reality that his
his uncle had talked him into this situation started to bear,
you know, even more weight on him and he started, you know,
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using drugs and of that situation, which got him to
these health issues as they were.
Right. So we have this conversation and
I leave there and I'm just kind of in shock.
As I said, it's my first day on the job and I have this like
this heavy thing just like laid in my lap.
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About a week later, I get a callfrom my coordinator who tells me
that he has been released from Hospice care.
They have said that he was fit to go home and he is still alive
to this day. Knowing that, I know that he
murdered his uncle. Wow, holy.
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Okay. Does that bring up any questions
for you? Yes, it does.
We got we have to ask. It's it's kind of the the
question to ask. I mean, where, where are you on
reporting? Did you did you do anything?
Did you report or are you hanging on to it?
Well, I'm, well, I'm, as I stated, I'm a minister and I
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also hold other titles to where I unless he does it.
I I mean, I can encourage him, but I can't, I can't do that
myself, no. Totally holy heck is there Dang
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so especially as a as a ministers.
And you? There's.
Go ahead. Sorry, no.
No, you're good there. There's a little bit of a delay,
so apologies. But yeah, is there, what kind of
advice gets shared among folks within your fields, right?
Like folks specifically that, you know, ministers or even just
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within the Hospice field as a whole of like folks that might
be encountering things like deathbed confessions, you know,
these huge admissions? Is there like a, is there
training involved in this? Like what, what kind of goes
into it? Because I, I can't imagine this,
you know, things like this are rare in, in the lifespan of a
whole career. Right, So that's a really good
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question. So basic how this worker, I
wouldn't say there's training onit.
There's just kind of an understanding that when people
are in Hospice, they're on a lotof meds, they're going through a
lot of stress and everything they say might not be fact,
right? It might not be what is quote UN
quote real. So a lot of times I, I feel when
a lot of Hospice workers get these deathbed confessions,
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they're just like, OK, you know,Mr. so and so, and they just
kind of go about their day because the one thing it's a
really hard, it's a very difficult thing to digest some
of the things that we are that'sput on our altar in that
position anyways. And then you kind of add that.
And then you have, you know, that cognitive dissonance of,
oh, I should tell someone and you know, this person is dying
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and you know, their sins will beforgiven, whatever your beliefs
are, right. But as a, as a minister, all I
can do is encourage them to seekGod and to allow that space for
the physical part of man's law to work through that aspect of
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God. And most ministers are that way.
We, we get a lot of things put at our altar.
And you know, the reality of ourduty is we are the the ones at a
place where we're supposed to beable to hold that and to
understand that there's a divineplan behind that event.
So we just kind of encourage forward as we can and.
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That is that is rough. That's a lot to a lot to carry
and a lot of respect to you for for taking it out.
Yeah, I mean that, you know, I'mnot I'm not someone of faith at
all, but IA 100% respect the fact that you know, you you're
really making yourself a vehiclefor your faith.
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You're allowing to, to practice you're, you're applying
forgiveness almost in a sense like you're, you're helping to
aid in the process, if that makes sense.
I don't know how to how to phrase this, but that that's
such an intense moment to be catching confessions and
admissions and like the the mixture of emotions that has to
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be involved in that. Because you go from hearing
things like this to, you know, I'm sure many times folks
actually passing and then also having to console family maybe
with the thoughts of what the person just admitted still in
your mind, you know, like that'sa that's a hell of a
responsibility. That's a lot of respect to you
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for that. Yeah.
And I want to say thank you for offering this space because I,
you know, because of my work. And I think, you know, I have
held this for a really long time.
And you know, it's not, it's notEven so much these things
happen. And then it's like when they
stay alive, you know, there's this whole human aspect to it.
You know, I was like, oh, this person knows that I know this
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thing about them, right? That could that.
Could make for some awkward. Some awkward instances at the
post office just being like, oh,hey, I haven't seen you in a
while. Oh.
Gosh, especially if he if he wants.
You just stay out of that town, right?
What are the chances, what are the chances that he'll wind up
back with you when it is his time?
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Oh, you just gave me God question.
I didn't even consider that as an option, sorry.
And and if it is, you know, I guess we'll just be sitting
there and, and I'll just have tostart with a pray, you know what
I mean? I hope he doesn't come in with
being like all right, so I know last time was heavy but
something new happened but like no OK.
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You thought the last time was a wild wagon?
Yeah. I don't even like the Godfather
movies and I quit. I quit the clock.
I'm out of here. It's absurd.
Lord, you are testing me. Right, and I can't really tell
who's talking by the screams, but whoever was was mentioning
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about holding with these people.And you know, the reality is
too, you know, regardless of youknow what the title of minister,
you know, looking at that situation, he was a 10 year old
boy when that happened. You know what I mean?
Like, how do we, how do you, youknow, I always have so much
reverence for people who work Hospice work because, yeah,
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it's, it's this the finding the humanity and all these parts
that are just, you know, seemingly unattractive, but
they're real, you know, that it's really real moment.
And to like, you know, Hospice people just have this really
beautiful way of kind of bringing a a beauty to that
transition. So yeah, I appreciate you guys
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having this line open and kind of offering the space because I
I would have smile and with thison me and it it feels nice to
just kind of let it out there a little bit.
So in a in a got in the place worker and.
Been like I know someone that murdered somebody and just give
the deathbed confessions of other people each time you just.
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It's actually hold on, it's justbeen 1 murder confession for
thousands of years, just passingaround like a monkey's paw.
Is there that? 'D be the worst.
Paying it forward of this, yes. What, what's the so, so
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especially around like Hospice, if you heard any from other
folks, maybe even like stories where you, you heard it from, I
guess like a peer Co worker, youknow, your acquaintances in in
the fields. And even if they didn't believe
it, let's and we can always lighten the mood here.
What's the funniest deathbed confession you've heard?
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Has there ever been a funny deathbed confession?
I guess I should start with that.
I, yeah, I would say there's a lot of what I would consider
humorous deathbed concessions because there's, there's things
that we, we genuinely believe inour lives that are like really,
really bad, you know, and we'll like carry that shame for like
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our whole lives. And I like the funniest one was
quite recently, actually. It was like a 94 year old woman
and she was talking about how when Coca-Cola came into those
machines for the first time and her mom didn't have the money to
get one of the Cokes out of the machine.
And so she stole one of the Cokes.
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And she held the guilt of stealing this Coke literally her
whole life to the point that shehad to tell me because she felt
it was like what was holding herto earth.
And it was just, it was beautiful and it would like,
broke my heart all at the same time, you know, because I think
it's so it was so minutely small.
And the fact that she actually felt conflicted about it shows
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that she's a good person, you know?
You know, But it was, it was funny and enduring and flight,
you know, considering everythingout.
Yeah. I'm gonna have to warn her from
beyond the grave to Coca-Cola has some very, very good legal
teams and they might go beyond the grave.
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I have a Ouija board in court being like you.
Know 19. 40s, fifties, probably 50s maybe when they first became
in the the machine 60s. Yeah.
We're gonna look for that $0.05.Look at.
That 5. Cents five plus eternal
interest, right? Yeah.
(23:56):
It's gonna be ice cold. Wherever you.
Are you're just you can only do every time you drink something?
Man, I could only wish that I was such a good person that the
worst thing I ever did was steala Coke from a vending machine,
right? That's that's a good person,
right? There.
Oh, bless it. Yeah.
That is. Yeah, yeah, fantastic.
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Yeah, I agree. Anybody.
Wants to give their of us the beer of reason Boogeyman team.
Wants to give your deathbed confession right now.
She's on the line. She'll listen.
There you go. Yep.
I'm good at listening and I won't tell anyone other than
random people on the Internet anonymously.
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I don't. Yeah.
And we we sincerely appreciate it.
We did was that was fantastic. Yeah.
Thank you. Yeah.
Thank you so much. And if you if you know.
Anyone else in? The field that also needs to get
something off their chest or something they know that they
need to get off their chest in asimilar thing.
Shoot em attacks let's share ourlive stream.
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We're going to be going for another half an hour or so.
This is we're we're doing it forcalls exactly like yours.
Fantastic. Thank you so much for for
calling in love. That was great.
Thank. You so much.
That was amazing. God bless.
Thank you. Bye.
Bye. Dang.
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Wow, that was awesome. That was.
All right, everybody can hear. Them Do you want to give us your
first name or nickname and whereyou're calling in from?
My name is Troy. I live in Northwest Ohio.
I was working in 2012 in a Dollar General as a manager and
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we had another manager at closing time and we we're
closing down the store. The front doors were already
locked and everything seemed to be going pretty normal.
I had heard walking around one of the the the food aisles.
So I go down the aisles and I just kind of like do little
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checks and whatnot. And I see like this got to be
like about four foot 10 little old lady.
And I was like, ma'am, the storeclosed already.
I can let you out the front if you need to.
And it just seemed like she wasn't hearing me.
So like I'd kind of like speak alittle bit louder, try to get
her attention. And it eventually got to the
(26:34):
point where I had to like go up to her and I got super close to
her. Just looked like a normal old
lady, probably like sixties, 70s, somewhere around that age.
And I started having a conversation about how the store
is closing and how she needs to leave.
And, and I was just like, if anything, if you're not going to
(26:56):
be long at all, I'll ring up your items.
And then I'm starting to get like a notification on my little
like walkie-talkie that my manager is telling me to come to
the office extremely quickly andit's an emergency.
And I, I was just like, I can, if you want to bring up your
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items to the, the register, ma'am, I can ring you out here
in a bit. And I go back into the office
and she's like, what were you just doing?
And I was like, there's a littleold lady still shopping out here
and she's like, what are you talking about?
You literally were just talking to like nothing.
And I was like, what are you, what are you talking about?
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And she brings up the camera footage and like, it's literally
just like starts with me, like kind of like looking down an
aisle and like talking. And there's nobody on the camera
the entire time that I was talking to this lady.
Oh wow. Oh, that's giving me chills,
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man. Oh my gosh.
It did. It did me too.
That that that trumped my stories at my dollar.
But I'm not working at Dollar General, but close enough.
That's awesome. Damien, do you have any follow
up questions? I know I.
Got some questions about that like or just some like so was
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there a long history of things like this happening?
Like did you, did you come across to anybody else like over
smoke breaks or anything like that where you're, you know, how
much did you talk about this afterwards while you were
working there? And was there any rapport from
other folks about similar eventsgoing on?
We had like no idea anything like this happened.
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The manager that I like caught me talking to an Mt aisle.
She had been working there for about 5 years before that and
she's like, I've never seen anything like this or even heard
anything like this. So like that was just crazy.
And like, we ended up showing a good majority of the people who
work there and even like the district manager came in to like
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take a look at it because his nephew worked there as a cashier
and his nephew told him about it.
And he was like, no way, I'm I'mcoming in right now.
It it just ended up being like this big spectacle between all
the workers that work there. That.
Is that is. Nuts, man, that is nuts.
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Have you had any other experiences like this, like you
know, like is are you going through life with like Damien's
style of magnet towards paranormal things or like you
know, is it was this kind of like your one and only like real
intense experience? Actually I was for, I want to
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say like the last 17 years or so, I've been a paranormal
investigator with DAPR up in Northwest Ohio.
A little thing that my my godmother put together little
ghost hunting group and we've done a whole bunch of stuff
throughout the state of Ohio. But yeah, just a little really
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long history of being able to see and experience these time
types of things. That's amazing.
You are live, Can we get your first name and where you're
calling from? Hello.
This I'm this is Bob. I'm calling from tech.
Bob. Hello, Bob.
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Cool. Hi, Bob, calling in.
Bob with Bigfoot Club, OH. Hey, yeah.
Thank you for calling in SO. What's going on?
Nada, we are. We are collecting stories.
OK, I got 1. I, I was the former Bigfoot
researcher for Texas Bigfoot Research Center in the early,
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late 90s, early 2000s. And when we first got our our
website up and going, we would get, we were, our goal was to
get like stories, like least sighting reports in Texas, but
we end up getting them like nationally.
So we got one from Kentucky and it was this lady, and I hope I
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can say some of the stuff on here, but I got this one call
from this lady and she was she. So I end up calling her.
And so she said, yeah, I have a Bigfoot coming down the
mountain. I guess she was right, right
close to Appalachia. And so this Bigfoot would come
down the mountain and and she said because this Bigfoot wants
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to have sex with me. And I said, OK, how do you know
this, this Bigfoot was coming down the mountain and it was
wanting to have sex with her. And I said, keep going.
And then I go, OK, I go, how canyou tell?
And she says, well, he's coming down the mountain and his his
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junk is glowing whenever it comes down.
And so at the time, at the time we had my mentor, Luke Gross
with me and I asked him, I go, hey, I go, is that possible?
He says, well, Bob, you know, some, you know, there are some
phosphorescent mushrooms and youknow, maybe that maybe this
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Bigfoot got into it and, you know, and then touched his junk
and then now he's coming down. So, so she would, she would tell
me that he would, it would come down and like and like bang on
her trailer and, and so she would yell at it and then it
would eventually go away. And so we didn't, I didn't get a
chance to make it out to Kentucky, but I did reach out.
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I did reach out to a local Kentucky group and see if they
could take it. They never got back with me on
it. So that's my story.
Bob, I need to hop in real quick.
Can you find that e-mail you sent to the group in Kentucky?
Because I think that that would be a fascinating e-mail if this
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is true. Hey guys.
No, we haven't talked much, but I got a question to ask.
Wow. OK.
Hello, you are on. Can we get your first name and
where you are calling from? Yep, you there.
Yep. Whenever you're ready.
You. You.
Are you are live? And if you're not, then we're in
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a lot of trouble. Oh, hey.
Oh, I'm done. Oh, good.
Good. Yeah.
This is Gregory Fedora. Hi, Kristen.
Hi, Gregory. I'm just on South Mountain here
in Maryland, so I'm calling fromMaryland.
And so so my story goes back to about 199192.
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I used to live in Dayton, OH, and it was at the US Air Force
Museum and I worked there and the US Air Force Museum is one
of the largest and it's way bigger than the Space and Air
Museum at the Smithsonian. And they have one of one of the
planes that dropped the atomic bomb over I think over
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Hiroshima. And the story was at night you
would go and there's these huge lights that are about 20 feet
long. They're big, like fluorescent
lights. They're huge sayings.
It was super heavy. And at night, supposedly it
would like swing like a pendulum.
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And I, I was kind of friends with like the security guards
who are actually MPs for the AirForce.
So they're like legit like dudeswho were tough and you know, I,
I got to talking to them and they were telling me about it
and these guys were like, you know, they, they thought they
were bad asses all the time. So but they would not patrol at
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night because they said all thisweird crap happened because all
these like airplanes were like from World War Two, World War
One. Some had been in crashes, some
had people have died, you know, during the war in them.
And but I was fascinated by it. And I one evening there was a
big event and they had like all these people there and I, I
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volunteered to work because I was like kind of hoping I'd get
to go in the back and see some stuff at night.
And near the end of the event, one of the guys came up to me
and said, dude, you want to go check out the, the thing in the
back. And I was like, oh, yeah, let's
do it. And so we go walking around and
(35:34):
we went around the corner and I look up and know why like that
light was swinging like a pendulum, none of the other
lights but the one over the one airplane was just swinging back
and forth like and it never slowed down.
And we stood there for like 5 minutes and there's, I cannot
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tell you, I have no idea how or why it was doing it made no
sense. There's like no, like even if
there was an air duct near it, there's no way it could be
blowing enough air to get it to do that.
And there was no air duct near it.
Oh, it was on the other side of the hanger.
And it was like blew my mind. And he was like, you want to go
(36:16):
back in there? And I'm like, no, no, I don't
want to go back in there. Like I was like, I don't want to
know what else is going on in there.
I got. Just seeing that was enough for
me. So you were with the rest of the
crew after that of just like, yeah, you know what, not so much
going out at night over there anymore was this.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like now the guy that went back
there with me, he had like, likeother stories that he had told
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me about, and that's why he's going to see if I wanted to go
there. And one of his stories was.
And the reason he quit going washe at first he's all about,
yeah, I'll go. I don't care.
And as he was patrolling, he went around the corner and right
next to that big bomber is a wasAB 17 bomber.
And he was standing there and heheard this like clicking noise
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like click, click, click, click,click, click, click, click,
click, like. And he's like, what is that?
And he turned and he looked and one of the machine guns from the
B17 was pointed right at him andmaking the clicking.
And he was like, holy shit. He was like.
And he said he goes. That was the last time I ever
went back in there. And I go, dude, yeah.
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And then he was like, you want to go see if it's doing it?
I don't know. I don't want to see that.
If anything's going to put you in your place, it's having a
full fucking machine gun pointing at you trying to shoot.
You right. Like, right.
Yeah, yeah. While you're just doing your
job, you know? Wow, That's that is yeah, that
was my workplace. That's it.
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But I haven't experienced anything like CNA.
I mean, I've gone up to Gettysburg and I've done other
things. I've and like done some dial rod
stuff and I've had some weird answers and some weird
experiences like that, but like it would to that for some reason
that was the freakiest thing to me.
Like it just because I couldn't,could not come up with a reason
(38:03):
why that light was moving with the downloads.
I, I could make up in my head like, well, maybe I'm doing it
or this, you know, but that, that, that light I, I to this
day of like, I cannot figure outhow that did that.
It's like, wow, was this so sorry?
If I missed this part, but like was this light above the
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aircraft that was also pointing a machine gun and trying to fire
at somebody, No. No, no, no, this was above like
there's, there's two airplanes that drop the hunt.
One was over Nagasaki and one was over Hiroshima.
The one that I think that was it1 is here in, in Washington, DC.
The other was in Dayton, OH. And it's the light that is right
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above that bomber and then the B17 bomber is right next to it.
And but the light is literally over the wingspan of this plane.
And it's like really like, yeah,if you go back there, like the
light is like at the same lengthas the wingspan of this huge.
Think it's AB28I can't. Remember, but there's going to
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be a. It's a big barn.
It's going to be one of those two airplanes, right, Right.
Yeah. Yeah, the airplane that killed
1,000,000 people, you know that?Yeah.
Like to this day continues to have a paper right on peoples
lives like just like yeah. Yeah, holy shit.
Yeah, you got to say. You got to think we're lucky
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here. That was cool, but kind of weird
and kind of and also kind of like because you know, possibly
why it's on it, you kind of feellike, oh man, yeah, of course.
Yeah. Like a million people vaporized
because. Yeah, it's.
Not just some spirit angry that they stubbed their toe or that
like, you know, like, you know, I don't know, diapers weren't on
sale or something. You know, there's, there's
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something mild going on with that aircraft, you know, like,
damn. Oh, yeah.
Well, well, thank you. Thank you for calling in man.
Well, thank you. Yeah.
I can't wait to hear the rest ofthe ghost stories that are.
Happening right man, Thank. You.
Oh, yeah. Thank you.
Night night Gregory, that is such an awesome story.
(40:16):
Hello caller, you are alive. Can we get your name and where
you're calling from? Hi and my name is Melinda
Wolfram and I'm calling from Tennessee.
Hi, Melinda. Hello, Melinda, calling in.
Welcome. Very proud to be here.
Hey, Damien, how are you? Good.
(40:37):
How are you? Hey.
I'm doing good. Great to hear.
So what do you got for us tonight?
Well, I mean, Damian invited me to come on in and I am a psychic
medium, a psychic detective, andI've done the seances, I've done
a little bit of everything. And he, you know, told me that
you guys were doing this. He offered for me to come on.
(40:59):
Of course, I was planning on staying on as long as I could,
but I was called into work and some on my break and I thought
I'd give you guys a call real quick just to be able to, you
know, to talk about, you know, Icould talk about whatever you
guys want to talk about. Of course, my expertise is the
second detective work I do, but you know, I'm willing to talk
about whatever you guys want to talk about.
(41:22):
This is interesting. Yeah, OK.
We got it for 15 minutes. What do you guys want to ask?
Quick questions. So let's go with it.
Well, I'd be curious. I'd be curious to learn a little
bit about maybe seances. That's something I've always
wanted to try, but I've never been in to one, never been
invited to one. Have you have you LED any?
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I have led a couple, yes. I was brought through and
taught, you know, I wanted to make sure I knew what I was
doing because a lot of people, you know, they go in and they,
you know, they play with the Ouija board, they do the
seances. And if you really don't know
what you're doing, you could getyourself into, you know, some
situations. But I was trained under Patty
(42:02):
Negrie and she is just an amazing teacher.
And but yes, I, I've held a couple myself and you know, I've
done the tipping table. I've done all of that stuff.
So, you know, the seances is something that I really, really
enjoy doing. And, you know, there's certain
ways, certain techniques that you've got to know to be able,
(42:25):
you know, for the protections ofeveryone involved.
OK. But I mean, they are just, you
know, the first time I'd done one on my own, you know, I was
sort of like, not for sure because you know how it is when
you're doing something new And but they can be really amazing
to bring spirit through. And I was doing 11 time.
(42:48):
The second one I'd done, we a little, a little girl came
through and what was weird, you know, was that I was trying to
figure out who she was and the, the parents was in the room and,
and she, her dad always called her teddy bear.
And I said, whoever this little girl's here for, I said, she's
(43:09):
saying that her dad caught her teddy bear.
Oh my gosh, you are to see her expression.
And so, you know, they, we went through and we, we've done
talking about it and then we know, we conversed with her and
she was like, she was only 7 when she passed.
And she was just wanting her parents to know that she was OK.
(43:30):
And their, the father felt like it was that he could have done
more to save her. It was a drowning.
And but she was, you know, she was very adamant.
She wanted her parents to know that no one was at fault, that
it was her time. Even though it was hard, it was
her time. OK.
Can I ask how, how did she come through?
(43:53):
Are you, are you a physical medium?
Are you channeling in these sessions?
I am a physical medium. I can see spirits.
So basically when what I see with spirit is they're like I
can see through them. I will see their features.
I was I can tell us what color hair they have, but I actually I
(44:15):
can see through them. Wow.
Wow. Somebody, somebody else take it
or I'm gonna talk her her ear off.
Yeah, How long? How long have you been doing
this? And also real quick, if anybody
has any questions in the chat, please just start throwing them
in there. If you can put them in all caps,
(44:36):
it'll help us see it. But yeah, how long have you been
in doing this? Because you also you do
detective work and stuff like that.
I imagine you didn't just, you know, pick up a psychic medium
work for Dummies book on, you know, Monday and started on the
weekend. Like it's just been like a
lifelong. Thing No.
Yes, I asked her to see in the spirit of the earliest I
(44:58):
remember is 7 years old and I have done it all my life and I'm
56 now so I've done it for a long time.
You know, it was, well, I had two near death experiences, but
there was the incident when I was in school and I, it was 7
years old and we were in class and, you know, it was a Monday
(45:21):
and the teacher was standing up there and she said that, you
know, one of our classmates had been in the accident over the
weekend with her parents and shehad died in the accident.
And I'm like, no, I'm like 7. She's at her desk because I
could see her and the teachers like, no, Melinda, you know,
stop that. You know, you're, you're
(45:42):
upsetting the other students. And I'm like, I can fear she's
at her desk. You guys don't know what you're
talking about. And so it was, so I've done it
all my life and that I've turnedit into the, you know, mainly,
you know, I do connections for people now, but I, I do a lot of
(46:02):
psychic detective work working with law enforcement and family,
OK. That's.
That's great that you do that. See, you're almost 50.
That's not at this point. So yes, yes, I've done it for a
long time. You've had like some really good
experience with families and things like that, like
(46:23):
connecting them. Has there ever been like really
bad experiences that you've had?There's something that you've
been just like, I'm not going todo that again.
Well, I have been the two. Well, there was a family and
there was some things going on in the home.
And so a paranormal team called me in to to see what I got and
it ended up in a I've been through 1 exorcism and I do not
(46:46):
ever want to do one of those games ever.
You know, they're very few and far in between.
You know, a lot of people think,you know, everything that's dark
is is demonic and that's not true.
But that's one of the worst things that I've been through is
to watch an actor actual exorcism, and that's something I
I did not care for at all. Yeah, that's a, that's a no go.
(47:11):
Now that's a you had that experience.
And yeah, yeah, I'm good at all.Do you still get calls somebody?
Said, yeah, I mean it. If you know, if I'm really,
really needed on something, I will never turn nobody down,
even if, you know, it's something like that.
But I try to stay clear of that.What would you recommend to
(47:35):
folks newbies to Ouija boards? What's your take on Ouija board?
Well, I have my own special one that I had made.
And if you don't know what you're doing, don't do it.
But also don't look at the Ouijaboard as something you shouldn't
do. Because to me, a Ouija board is
(47:55):
no different than using tarot cards or Oracle cards or, you
know, whatever it is you're using, you know.
But if you do not know what you're doing, if you don't know
how to open and close and the prayers and everything that you
need to do, then you shouldn't be, you shouldn't be dabbling in
it. Yeah, that's what I would
advise. Do not dabble.
Make sure you know what you're doing.
(48:16):
Yeah, yeah. Damian was just telling us, like
his his only experiences with the Ouija board.
He didn't know how to close it out.
He's in and out here on the screen.
He didn't know how to close it in and out.
What's the likelihood that something has stayed with him?
You know, if, if you don't do the proper procedures, and I
mean, there's a lot of steps that I do and I use holy water
(48:38):
in my opening and closing. I use the, the elements because
I am Native American and so I'm very big about using the
elements. And but if I'll put you to you
this way, more times than not, Ihave been asked to come and help
on someone that actually worked on the Ouija board.
(49:02):
And they did not know what they were doing.
And they did bring something in and they thought it was
something good and it wasn't. And it was, it wasn't demonic or
nothing. It was just something of a
darker entity. And so, you know, it's a, I'm
going to say it's a 5050 chance that you could bring in
something if you're not opening and closing in the right way.
(49:24):
You hear that, Damian? And Damian, I can teach you how
to do it. Yeah, he might.
He might need some help. I think he's got, he's got.
Some I think he's got to do it. He's definitely got some darker
entities messing with his Internet did.
I beat you to. It Gil, did I beat you to it?
No, that was that was great. That was awesome.
(49:49):
This, this honestly does explainso many things about how, like
the D boost is like constantly being plagued by just like
random knockings and crap and things falling down.
He's sending us these videos andstuff like every single day.
Like at this point, it's just like we the hours of highlight
reels we could put together fromlike a group chat.
So this explains a lot. This is also why you don't fuck
(50:10):
with shit you don't know. That was the survival advice I
was giving just before you called.
Yeah. Yeah.
I love it. What I'm like, I don't know if
y'all are too, but I'm just kindof like overwhelmed.
I was expecting like one or two little stories, but it's like, I
don't know, I'm a full blown professional.
(50:31):
I've got, you know, 50 years andI was just like.
I know, I know if I had. An hour.
We need more time. An hour with you, Melinda.
Oh my gosh, I would talk your face off so.
Well, girl, anytime I'm I'm open, I'm here.
Just hope in any way I can. And I love to talk too, but
unfortunately I was called into work and, you know, and I was
(50:53):
like, Oh my God, I got to call them at least for 15 minutes.
And we really. Appreciate it.
But anytime you set the bar highanytime at all?
Awesome. And we do if you, if you have
just a like a minute, minute anda half left for one more
question. Thank you.
So yeah, a question coming in from the chat.
(51:16):
Two things, wondering if she ever had a bad experience.
And the other question is how does she suggest I learn how to
use my tarot cards safely? Two different questions.
Feel free to grab either one or just ignore both.
I don't know whatever you want to do.
OK, so OK, the what was the first one?
(51:39):
It was wondered if she ever had a bad experience.
It was coming from Tim Buckles. Yes, I had went with a
paranormal team and to to a house that was having a lot of
activity and I kept going down to this lake area.
And then like, you know, three days later, after it was all
(52:01):
said and done and, and my kids were talking to me and they're
like mom and I and I looked out for what?
And they're like, what are you talking about?
And I'm like, what do you mean? What am I talking about?
And they're like, you were talking about stuff.
We have no idea what you're talking about.
And so then I had to call my medicine man and I had him to
come over and I had an entity, well, a spirit that was trying
(52:26):
to what I call, how do I say this?
They're trying to blend with me.So, so that was was not a fun
thing. It took about a week to get that
taken care of. Of course, I had thought I'd
done everything appropriately and I had not.
And this is back when I was first learning about, you know,
(52:49):
going on to with teens and helping them.
But now, and now I know what to do.
And now that will never happen to me again.
And that was like when I was in my 20s.
And as far as the tarot question, you know, I, I do hold
classes, I teach a lot. But you know, one of the things,
the first thing I would suggest for anybody starting out with
(53:10):
tarot is to make sure that you do an opening prayer and a
closing prayer and, and ask for protection.
And, you know, if you use God, if you use, I use creator
because like I said, I'm Native American.
It's whatever you see as far as the higher being and, you know,
ask, ask for protection. Got you that.
(53:33):
That's what I do. OK.
Do you hold your classes on via Zoom or Patreon or YouTube or
anything like that? I do hold it on Zoom.
And so yeah, I, I do that. I, I make my own essential oils.
I do a little bit of everything,guys.
(53:55):
Cool. Awesome.
Well, thank you so much, Melinda.
We're not going to keep any longer.
We know you got to get back to work.
We're going to get all your yourcontact info from Damian on the
other side and let you get back to it.
But we really, really, really appreciate your call.
That was awesome For real. I.
Don't know if you can. Hear me, but thank you for
calling guys and like I said, anytime.
And Damian, thank you for inviting me on.
(54:16):
And just like I said, Pat, I'm here to help and I'd be, I'd be
honored to come back on. Absolutely.
Yeah. Plan on it, girl, plan on it.
OK girl, I will talk to you thatsoon all.
Right, Melanie, have a good one.Bye.
You too. Bye bye.
(54:38):
That. Was awesome.
Wow, dudes.
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