137 | Pt 3 | Palmyra Atoll & The Sea Wind Murders: Island Boys - Black Cat Report | UFOs, Cryptids, True Crime & Paranormal

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We got lost in a few storms and circled the shores of the story
for a month, but we finally havelanded and Palmyra told Part 3.
Island Boys, I didn't see you there.
It all started early this morning.
From hunting ghosts to Bigfoot, UFOs, cryptids.
True crime, paranormal, and moreI.

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Always wanted to see AUFO. Oh I was.
I was researching for your entertainment.
That's Bigfoot's cat. He basically wrote the book on
Monarch. We aren't really comedians.
What if Buddha did cocaine the Addams?
Family on meth. This is the Black Hat report.
See you on the other side. Hello everyone and welcome to

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episode 137 of the Black Cat Report.
My name is Gil and joining me here today the soon to be most
notorious pirate Nashville, TN Joey.
I guess they call me Peg Leg Nash Lee just made that up on
the spot. Not very good.
But if you have a chance, go to Nashville and come visit me

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'cause there is no sea in Nashville.
It's true. Yeah.
Double entendre. Well, Joey, if you recall when
we last left off with our serieson Palmyra way back on episode
134, we were right at the part where Buck and Stephanie were

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being rescued from their agonizing week of aimlessly
drifting right off the island shore.
Which was the cherry on top of the previous three very long
poop covered weeks they had spent at sea.
Luck, who by now is an active fugitive, and Stephanie and

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underappreciated hippie child were officially on the run.
And neither one of them is prepared for a life filled with
actual consequences. Now if none of that is jogging
your memory or you haven't yet heard parts one and two, I'd
highly recommend scrolling back to episodes 133 and 134 before

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listening any further. Now As for our source for
today's episode, it will be the very girthy 700 plus page book
titled And The Sea Will Tell by Vincent Bugliosi.
Well, thanks to the helping hands of unexpected neighbors

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who had come out to meet Buck and Stephanie, the war-torn Iola
was now being safely taxied downthe rigid narrow channel and
into the belly of the island's lagoon.
It was bitter sweet having planned for months to dodge the
law and live alone on a desertedtropical island.
The site of these inhabitants was only as welcome as the

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relief they felt from no longer being stranded to the will of
the wind and the wrath of the sea.
Soon they were securely moored between two other boats, 20
yards from their sides and only 15 yards from the shore.
They were finally tied down to land and firmly realizing they

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were now stuck in a new twist offate.
No sooner were the knots tightened than Stephanie, Buck,
and all three of their dogs piled into their dinghy and
rowed ashore. The dogs who had been pooped up
on the overloaded Iola for a month, went absolutely bananas

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once their paws touched land. Just barking and yapping,
running in circles, ready to fight the air as their chests
exploded with grunts of excitement.
Unless she stepped out and Stephanie found the sand to be
shifting under her feet. Their rough 28 day struggle on
the open ocean left her still swaying to the rhythm of the

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sea. Meanwhile, the ever scowling
Buck stepped off the small boat.A brand new man, Roy Allen.
At least, that's the name he hadscolded Stephanie into calling
him as he attempted to adopt A new identity while still having
in full display a giant forearm tattoo that clearly read Buck.

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Yeah, that's just my friend. Or that's also what I like to
hunt for. I am a Buck.
I also like the Milwaukee Bucks,but just one.
The artist didn't know what spelled Buckeye, Ohio.
Well, in no time they were beingintroduced to their new
neighbors who met them with all the same small talk and niceties

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one might expect during such an impromptu change on such a small
island community. The so few people, the addition
of a new person, let alone 2 newpeople and three dogs stood to
upset the very intimate nature of the island's laid back
chemistry. As they'd soon find out,

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Stephanie and Buck had drifted into a pecking order and they
needed to very carefully navigate if they ever wanted to
carry out their plans of laying low for a few years while
growing enough weed to become middle class kingpins.
The first to speak up and take charge was the self appointed
mayor of Palmyra, Jack Wheeler. That's a mayor name.

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Yeah, Jack Wheeler. He knows his coconuts.
He's kicked a rock. My foot.
He can't point out directions. I think it's that way.
The name's 50 something year old.
My name's Jack. Jack Wheeler, Take the wheels to
the sea. Well, it was a 50 something year

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old stringy figure with horned rimmed glasses attached to his
face just above his massive sideburns that framed the
appearance of his very son Age skin.
Picture Hugh Jackman without makeup playing Wolverine in the
disco era, basically. Boom.
Perfect, perfect. What I'm saying?

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Yeah, Yeah. I felt like that was a good.
Some some people say Jesus take the wheel, but everyone around
here says Jack take the wheel. Now, now, Jesus, I've got it.
I've got it now. Jesus takes the wheel.
He passes it on to Jack. Jack.
Anyways, Stephanie barely had enough time to be inventing

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about the perils of their journey before being politely
hushed up by Jack's stern ego trip.
Stephanie, it was terrible. We had spent 28 days out on the
water. Jack.
Sorry to hear that. Well, seeing as how I'm kind of
the unofficial mayor of this place, I'll take you on a tour
of the island. I'm not shooting you that that's

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how the conversation works. Good job, Jack.
There there's quotes in the bookI think I only skipped like 3
words. He's like well that's sorry blah
blah blah. Anyway he just shut up let's go
here. Mm hmm.
As the three walked along, he then proceeded to give them a
mayoral overview of the island, breaking down the history and

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the names of the separate islets.
I'm literally just being like, this one was named after a
judge, I think, and this one over here is named after a
plant, I'm pretty sure. Yeah.
The worst tour. Yeah, Jack.
Now, y'all know about the poisonous fish, right?
Stephanie? The what now?

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Yeah, Siguatera, A toxin some ofthe fish carry due to an algae,
but there are a few varieties that are edible and tasty.
Shortly after this little discussion, Stephanie and Buck
learned another fascinating tidbit about Palmyra.
The lagoon was literally a breeding ground for black tip

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sharks, meaning that you couldn't so much as dip your
feet in without risking your toes being mistaken for Vienna
sausages. And to make matters even worse,
there was almost no soil to growtheir weed, at least none that
was easy to access. But I'll get to that a little
later in the story. Their big scheme very quickly.

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I'm saying within an hour was starting to meet the reality of
just how inhospitable the islandwas and their plans were now
sinking faster than the Iola in a harbor on a sunny day as their
two are proceeded it. Jack continued to rattle off his
knowledge of the island and how he was connected to it.

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As it turned out, he knew the family that owned Palmyra and
had been tasked with helping to make a few modifications to the
landscape, one of which was to clear a massive runway of birds
who would turn the old World War2 era landing strip into their
own private bird orgy slash daycare.

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You see, Palmyra apparently plays a huge role in the
migratory and breeding cycles ofbirds that cross the Pacific
Ocean, including, and this is true, the brown booby, masked
booby, red footed booby, blue footed booby, the black naughty
and the brown naughty. It was a landing strip club

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literally filled with. Yeah, with boobies.
Yeah, No, there's. A lot of naughty boobies on that
one there's. A lot of naughty boobies.
So when the tour crew walked outof the thick islands brush and
met the clearing where the Sea Bird Strip club was, they were
greeted by 10s of thousands of horny birds who started going

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crazy. Nests filled with screaming baby
chicks hovered the tarmac while their massive parents started
screeching and dive bombing thislittle tour crew.
Now, unsurprisingly, Popolo Bucks Dog went absolutely
apeshit, running straight into the nesting birds and attacking

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everything Insight while Stephanie began yelling Papolo
Papolo Kapoo Papoo Papolo. Oh no, as Papolo snapped his
mouth around the neck of the first bird he could catch,
immediately cutting its body almost completely in half before
he proceeded to shake it back and forth, spraying blood,

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feathers, and eggs everywhere while tearing it apart in front
of everyone. Well, as they stood there
watching this montage of carnageplay out, Jack asked the obvious
question. Is your dog that hungry?
To which Buck replied, Nope, he's just that hungry.

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And with the exception of these screams still coming from the
bird massacre, there was an awkward silence.
Buck eventually leashed Popolo and the tour continued.
The trio then proceeded to navigate awkwardly along the
nearly mile long landing strip, all the while dodging massive,

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angry seabirds flying at their faces and attempting to step
around the thick maze of nests woven amongst the asphalt.
That's also the name of the strip club, the landing strip
that's. That's a good one.
That's a good one. Yeah.
Lay your eggs here, ladies. Oh, my God.

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You know the insight. You know the the buffet is just
called like the nest. Oh, gotta be which?
Eggs galore. Oh, Pecker's choice.
Pecker's choice. Get.
It love it. Got it.
Pecker's choice, dude, we're winning tonight, we're winning
tonight. We need strip club merch for
this, yes, bird orgy strip club this landing strip club AI get

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on that get anyways. What can't we need to like get?
Who is it like Temu or Teemu or whatever to like subscribe to us
'cause then it'll start making products from us just casually
saying shit? Every time people say Teemu, I'm
just like, you mean the freakingorca?

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It was Shamu. There's an orca named Teamu.
Joey, I don't know why you're the one.
Well, we had a whole argument against Orca's last last
episode, so. Yeah, and well, I mean, mostly
it was calling out the truth of manatees, but you're going to
have to go back to the last episode to learn reality.
Manatees are murderers. Well, Jack, ever the one to

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share a tip, noted that many of the eggs there were actually
really good eaten, though they tasted a little fishy.
He said that the trick to find fresh eggs was to come out onto
the tarmac, clear a 20 by 20 foot area of any nests, then
come back the next day and any eggs you find in that area be

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fresh and ready for the taking. I included that because I
thought that was a cool survivalmove.
Well, it's true, but it just reminds me of Chris Farley in
almost heroes. I don't know if you've ever seen
you remember that movie, but he's like in the and he's trying
to get the eagle egg to to fix this, to fix Matthew Perry's

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character. And then he brings it back and
she cracks it and he's like, I could have done that at the
beginning. Great movie.
If you haven't watched Almost Heroes, watch it.
So good. Chris Farley.
Well, yeah. So as the crew rambled along,
Jack rambled on, taking them around to the old military ruins

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still dotted across the landscape while telling them
tales of underground bunkers he and his family had once
explored. When the Navy had left, much of
their surplus had stayed behind.Seems to be a tradition, and
although picked through over theyears, there was still enough
random equipment and supplies lying around that one could find

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parts and pieces to build and repair any number of things that
might break while surviving on an isolated island in such a
remote location, right? For sure.
Yeah, well when they finally stopped for a break, Jack asked
Buck and Stephanie how long theywere planning to stay, and upon

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hearing her plan to plant a vegetable garden and live off
the land, he made a point that they should probably reach out
to the owners for permission if they were going to permanently
make a life on the atoll. There was a pause, followed by
Jack seemingly bragging about his own credentials again and

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the permissions he had been given again.
Yep, my boy and I were tasked with cleaning up the landing
strip. The owners wants to clear out
enough of the birds so that a plane can land.
I'm sure how successful we'll bethough.
I'm seeing an opportunity to sneak his way into the mayor's

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good graces. Wasted no time and quickly
replied. I can help.
Now there's something I need to know here.
Not about the story, but about the book.
I don't know what it is, but theauthor, Vincent Bugliosi, never
misses an opportunity to sidetrack into slightly erotic

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descriptions. Quote, give you a hand, Buck
said. Jack paused and seemed to
consider Buck's hefty shoulders and hot, muscular arms.
Jack couple more strong arms would be good.
He agreed. At this point in the book, there

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has already been about 9 of someof the most awkwardly laid back
sex scenes between Buck and Stephanie, including one where
I'm not joking. After noting Stephanie saw him
as a quote exciting and experimental lover, the author
starts explaining Buck's style of making love.

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And he does this. But the type of Ringe I didn't
know was possible for something rated PG.
This is pretty much a direct quote.
Buck, lay down like this. Put your leg right here.
What if you turned this way? Try this angle.
Wear this hat. Slide to the left one.

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Hop this time right foot. Let's take it back now, y'all.
I honestly, I honestly just imagine the the writer of the
book, Bugliosi, just sitting in the corner of the boat, just
like, take a leg back here, Bucksays.
Just writing then the book as they're having.

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Yeah. If you, if, if I flip to a page,
I guarantee you within two 2 1/2pages of anywhere I flip,
there's some sex scene description and it's always like
very PG or like it just feels unnecessary for like the story.
It's like, OK, I get it. You know, they were fairly young
lovers and they they fucked. You don't need to just

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constantly be like. And then after that they kissed
at the sunset and went below deck, their bodies rocking to
the waves, pressing against the boat.
Anyways, Buck didn't have front teeth and the next morning he
bought I'm just like what the fucked?
Vincent Freaklioso over there. That's a good one.

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That's a good one. Well, anyways, I'm just trauma
sharing right now, but it would please behoove me and it would
behoove the audience to not knowthis book randomly turns into a
dollar store romance novel novelfor like paragraph and then just
yeah, back to the murder. Well, cuz up until now I didn't

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know that that was happening. So I really do appreciate you
letting me know. Cuz it just seemed like this is
a, a good read of like, oh, thisis all happening.
And yeah, he may describe it, but then every once in a while
it's just like, let's get that seat, let's get that boat a
rockin. And if it's rockin, please
writer, come a knockin like comein here and start writing.
There was a previous section where it like went on and on and

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on about their sex life. It was like 3 pages talking
about their sex life back aroundthe time they were in Hawaii and
like briefly when they lived in California.
And how there is whole this whole situation with Buck trying
to have a threesome with Stephanie and like one of their
friends. But Stephanie was like, I'm
uncomfortable and she left. And then Buck proceeded to just

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be a swinger and have three sonsand have sex with their friends.
And Stephanie was like, this is complicated.
And then they left to Hawaii andit's just like constantly, like,
I don't really know why this is necessary, but all right, that's
fine. Cool.
So so how much do you wanna? Bet I don't know why he needed
to break down like Jack paused and seemed to consider Buck's

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hefty shoulders and taut, muscular arms.
These are direct quotes. Yeah, so how much do you want to
bet that Buck was the one? I mean, 'cause he was telling
the story, right? So he was probably being
interviewed by Bugliosi for thisbook.
Right. No, Buck told his.
This is a great side note. This is a great side.
I need to correct you on this, but you'll yeah, I think you'll
appreciate this. So when everything goes to shit

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and, you know, there's arrest, there's trials coming up, things
like that. Buck, who does serve time.
Ends up writing a like 900 page book or something like that
describing his side of the story, which has even more sex
in it and basically paints him as this like unstoppable sex God

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that like all these troubles andtrials and tribulations just
come up because everybody's justtrying to buck him and like,
it's just like non-stop and he'stotally innocent and never wore
a rubber. Like I imagine Bugliosi's just
like, well, I mean this is about90% of what he wrote.
So I I have to use at least like10% of.

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What Liliosi's book was first. Oh, it was Buck's response Wise,
Liliosi. OK, well then it's just Bugliosi
trying to sex up the reader. Which is awkward because
Bugliosi was Stephanie's lawyer in the murder trial, right?
So he's defending Stephanie, butthen he's also constantly

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talking about Stephanie just wanting to like fuck Buck and
just like, I'm just like, this is this is like a weird
psychology for you and your client.
I understand. But Bugliosi put himself in the
position of Buck when he was just yeah, we talked about that
in the first episode, I think. Can't, can't have relations with
my client, but I can write abouthim anyways.

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Well, after Buck volunteered andJack stared longingly, Jack gave
Buck the rundown about their work schedule and he agreed to
meet them the next morning at sunrise to help with their
upcoming bird genocide. Before the tour continued, Jack
pulled out his machete and picked up a coconut with roots
beginning to grow from the bottom.

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It was in the early stages of sprouting during which the
chemistry along with the inside of the coconut began to change.
He sliced into it quote revealing a white pudding like
substance. Jack then said the milk inside
turns solid. It's called spoon meat Quote.

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Never want to hear the what spoon meat again.
That he made that mean. Obviously that's not real.
He just made that up and he's just like, look, he's trying to
be like Jack. He's trying to, you know, be
like he's on top of his game andhe knows how to.
Survive in the wild, this is. Jack, Oh, Jack said that.
I thought. I thought that was.
Jack's the one introducing them to spoon meat.

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Oh, then he's also a idiot. He's also an idiot 'cause
that's, I guess that's what we're getting at.
So yeah, let's go. He then handed Stephanie and
Buck some pieces while pressuring them to take a bite.
Stephanie. Oh my God that's delicious Jack,

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and it can be fried or baked. He then awkwardly smirked and
said I'm going to leave the resthere, we'll come back in a few
minutes and check it out. End Quote.
Well, soon after he was showing Buck and Stephanie how to remove
the hearts from palm trees and acting like he was revealing to

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them some culinary secret, saying that palm hearts were
food and could be used in salads.
Not shitting you. Next I'm going to show you what
a bird is. Yes, while 80% of his show and
tell was bragging, 20% was useful and for the sake of

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keeping peace. For instance, he made a huge
point of telling Buck and Stephanie that the owners of
Palmyra don't want people chomping down mature palm trees.
And that when they are harvesting palm hearts, they
should only chop down the ones that are two or three feet high.

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Basically his mentality was there's so freaking many and
these saplings are so close together they're going to kill
each other off anyways. It's OK to harvest, you know,
gracefully, right? Thin out the herd, I guess.
Yeah, yeah. Well, over the next few minutes,
Jack showed them an Old Navy building that he lovingly called

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the ice cream shop, which soundscreepy, but inside of it there
was a refrigerator as well as creepier.
Well, there was a generator run contraption that he'd built
which turned coconuts into ice cream, which is kind of awesome.
What? A genius What A.

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Genius. A desolate tropical island in
the middle of nowhere in like the 70s and it's like 90
something degrees all day and 100% humidity and like, fuck
yeah. Ice cream, dude, That's pretty
awesome, Yeah. Yeah, well, this is Ben and
Jerry's, the creator of Ben and Jerry's.
This is Jack and Jerry's. Jerry's my wife.

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It's just him. And it's just him.
Hello. In a wig.
He's doubtfiring shorter hair than his hair.
Yeah, yeah. It's like it doesn't make any
sense. He just puts on different
colored mutton shops. Yeah, yeah, I'm the first lady.
How long have you been on the island?

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Should meet my new friend Wilson.
About 10 minutes. OK, wow, this is concerning.
Have you met my children? And it's just like they walk
into a room and it's a bunch of mirrors all pointing back at
him. These are my kids.
And there's just, like, color. He just drew.
Yeah, he drew on the mirror. Like different colored dresses,

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different colored. Clothes.
Luck just leans over to Stephanie.
I think we can take him. Not you, not y'all can't just
pulls out a gun like oh God you know well, saving the best for
the last and maybe making a weird power move.
I'm not sure how I feel about this.

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Jack took them to see the outdoor bath promise of which
legitimately this time made Stephanie scream with hippie
excitement. Remember, it's 90 something
degrees, 100% humidity and they're both still coated with
sea salt, dog poo and pee. So this whole time this tour was

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going on they were walking around in a muggy sweat and just
covered sea salt, dog poop and piss.
And Jack is just kind of like this is the ice cream shop and
this is a palm hog. And they're just like uh huh,
yeah OK cool. So this is an abandoned building
and have you seen the birds? And it's just like, uh huh.

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Just like kind of feels like a weird power move to like you
think if you're really being hospital hospitable you'd be
like Oh my God, you know, y'all have had a rough time.
Hey, go get some showers. I'll show you where that's at
when y'all get a chance. I'll show you around the island.
Seems less. Yeah.
I don't know. Yeah.
And and that that mixture of of salt, poop and urine is also the

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new scent from Patchouli. They made a new Cologne that is
a Patchouli. Style stppu de toilette.
Well, de toilette. Before they could reach the
bath, they passed by the coconut.

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Jack had sat down only minutes earlier when they saw it.
Buck and Stephanie were left standing in shock.
In that brief time they had stepped away, the coconut was
completely filled with hermit crabs, already fighting each
other over the sweet insides of the seedling.

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It was the perfect way for Jack to demonstrate just how hungry
the island was, a reminder that the land was always ready at a
moment's notice to consume anything the wildlife found
edible and unattended. Little toes and fingers, I
wonder honestly, it's like if they fell asleep, which I guess

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he was making the point of. If they fell asleep with, you
know, being outside and probablynot covered or up higher, they
would probably be eaten. Yeah, I mean this, like this is
such a small island and so remote and the life forms that
are there have been there for solong that it is just an

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incredibly hyper efficient ecosystem.
Like you can't look at it as like there's any waste or
anything. Like anything that evolved
there, evolved with the very near neighbors, you know, every
single thing, if there is a resource, it's a part of the the

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circle of life. Everything just constantly being
consumed, dying, growing, dying,growing.
You go to situations like that and you leave anything out, it's
getting eaten immediately, you know?
Well, I doubt that the birds even would flow fly away from
the dogs or the people because they're so not used to people

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that they would probably just like, you know, a lot of
seabirds when sailors back in the 1516 hundreds, they'd come
there and they'd never have people there.
The birds would just wouldn't run away.
What happened to the dodo is that they just wouldn't run away
because they don't know to be afraid of people 'cause they're
just like, oh, that's just something else.
That's not going to come eat me.It'll only eat enough of us to
like, you know, only the few of us.

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And then people are just like Psych.
We're eating all of you, and we're just making you extinct.
Dude they got numbers. Like there's picture a mile long
plane landing strip and barely any exposed asphalt because of
just nests and like nests built on top of old nests on top of
old nests. And it's just littered

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everywhere, right. Yeah.
Like this is like all of those birds and like 30 more are all
doing their cycles, their their little cycles of life, right.
Like on this running on this runway strip.
Yeah. And think about.
It to let you all know good good.
It's in the It's in the South. This is near the equator.

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It's asphalt. Eggs need to be incubated.
They need to be kept hot. It is the perfect spot for for
all of these damn birds. But for sure.
And just to let you all know that at the landing strip,
there'll be plenty of asphalt being shown everywhere.
So. There's a lot of ass and it is

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our fault. Well, with the mayor's tour
finally over, Stephanie and Buckheaded back to the Iola, but
quickly got pulled into a brief side quest after their new
neighbors on the Caroline invited them on board, where
they met some ham radio nerds, smoked a joint, drank a little,

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then finally got to go take a bath.
Ever the opportunist author, Bugliosi makes a point to again
highlight how this led to the couple making love.
But that's not the worst part. In the afterglow of their
passionate romp, Buck proceeds to read out loud to Stephanie a

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chapter in a beachcombing book that was literally just a giant
list of all the quote useful products derived from coconuts.
Nothing sexier. Anyways, like I would Anyways
like I was saying, coconut is the fruit of the sea.

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You can BBQ it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it.
There's coconut kebabs, coconut Creole, coconut gumbo, pan
fried, deep fried, stir fried. There's pineapple, coconut,
lemon, coconut, coconut, shrimp,pepper, coconut, coconut soup,
coconut Stew, coconut salad. Yeah, coconut and potatoes,

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coconut burger, coconut sandwich.
Actually, that that's about it. Oh yeah, yeah, He Forrest Gumped
it. He Forrest Gump it.
Is literally the scene from Forrest Gump.
Oh my God as they're brushing that.
I mean he was probably just it was it was literally just a

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vertical list of things that canbe made from coconut.
She's like damn that was a good fuck Stephanie, how about I redo
a bedtime story Pan fried deep frost.
That's the best bedtime story I've ever heard.
So after all this shit they wentthrough, after all they finally
got a shower, they even got to get some weed and like drink a

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little bit. Finally relaxed.
They're not at sea anymore. And then it's just like, let's
read about coconut. It's like, goddamnit book.
I mean, it's, it's very useful for sure.
If they're, you know, 'cause wait.
Until the. Morning, dude.
Yeah, but I don't know, maybe that was his calm down, you
know, maybe that was his calm down book and that's how he

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calmed down from. Coitus.
That was his come down book. Well, since I'm not allowed to
go to the landing strip, I guessI'll just read about.
Fucking. Nothing.
Damn. The next day Buck kept his word
and met up with Jack to help himcommit some early morning

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avicide. Which, by the way, I looked up,
is the word for mass genocide ofbirds.
Hey beside. Hey beside I didn't know that.
Aviary. Aviary.
That would make sense. Avicide Aviary.
Mm, hmm. Avian.
Yeah, avian flu, yes. Anyways, avicide.
So think about that y'all. It's a good, it's a good

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username. Well, upon his return, Stephanie
noticed he was covered in sweat and exhausted.
For Buck, it had already been a very long morning and Stephanie
wasted no time prodding him about how things had gone.
But where wasn't Stephanie's concern going?
Buck's temper and his less than award-winning people skills?

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She was trying to gauge basically how well Buck had
gotten along with the mayor. For sure.
Buck, being Buck, didn't understand the subtleties and
went on to outline in detail theuphill battle against the birds
they were facing, how it was damn near impossible for them to

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ever clear that runway, and how Jack was starting to consider
the only remaining option. His final solution?
Poisoning all of the birds on the landing strip.
Stephanie, did you just say poison them?
Buck in a completely unaffected tone.

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Yep, apparently Jack has a bunchof the stuff, says he has enough
poison and one of those sheds tokill an army.
He then went on to explain in detail how they would then
destroy all the eggs and burn all the nests.
Avicide was the proper word for this.
For sure. Yeah, they're killing

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everything. Even for Stephanie Buck's calm,
unfazed demeanor while casually explaining how he was planning
to help kill thousands of animals at once, it was
concerning, right? Maybe over a lifetime.
There's like 10s of thousands ofbirds.

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He's just, Yep, we're just goingto fucking kill them all
anyways. He has a lot of point.
And just like, do you not have any feeling, bro?
Like this is fucked up, right? There's no scruples there.
What an asshole. No scruples got a single scrup,
not a scruple to poll well. Nevertheless, the thought of it

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got her fired up and she began scheming up ways that they could
stage a sit in to stop it from happening.
And while IA 100% agree with Stephanie, this is messed up,
right? Yeah, the idea of a sit in when
there's only like 10 people on the island and Buck is one of

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the people killing the birds seems a little bit ridiculous.
I mean, in my mind, first thought I have is just just go
steal the poison or, you know, go help them move the birds.
Yeah, I don't find a anyways. Foreshadowing.
Yeah, find a better final solution.
Yeah, yeah. Stand in, don't sit in.

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You know, just do something a little bit better.
It was just like, we're going tostage a sit in to keep them from
landing on the runway. And it's like, so you're going
to wait until after all the birds are dead to then stop
planes. Like how does this relate back
to your original goal of protecting the birds?
Never mind. There's I thought that makes.

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Sense I already put more thoughtto it than than she did it's.
Going to throw poison on her, you know, just like.
That's fine. Also it's her partner that's
doing this. But yeah, for sure, a few days
passed and Buck continued helping Jack and his son clear
the runway. He didn't want to help.

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Not because he was morally opposed, just to be clear, but
because he was lazy and the workwas boring.
He did it because he and Stephanie saw this as the best
way for the two of them to quickly build up social capital.
Hoping that if he kept acting like a Good Samaritan, Jack
would eventually maybe recommendto the island's owners that the

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two of them should stay on as the caretaker of the islands or
as the island's caretakers. Yeah.
Not a bad scheme, you know, if you're going to be there all day
anyways. Yeah.
Yeah. At any brownie points, Bucket
Urn were quickly lost when on the morning of June 30th, Popolo

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took a bite out of Jack's son, sinking his teeth straight into
the boy's thigh as he attempted to walk past the leashed dog.
And while it wasn't enough to critically injure the boy, and
by that I mean he wasn't going to bleed out, it was definitely
enough to leave a lasting wound on their relationship.

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How old was the boy? I think.
He was like, in his early to midteens.
Don't quote me on that. He was younger, but yeah, I
mean, he's old enough to help his dad with genocide.
So he was at least 12. Yeah.
Yeah. You know.
That's trauma there a lot for that boy too.
And like that's that's a lot. I mean, also also, even if the
dog bites you, especially there in this also the 70s, they're

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miles away from medical stuff. So if his leg gets infected,
there's not much that they can do for that 'cause I doubt they
really had a whole shit ton of medicine out there with them.
They probably had just a little bit enough.
A lot of the the yachties, the yachting community, they were
trained in paramedic type stuff.They have to be.

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That's good. Yeah, for sure.
Specifically because of situations like what happened
with Buck where a huge hook wentthere.
Yeah, that's true. And he was like, guess I'll just
RIP it out, you know, like. People need to be trained in
like advanced first aid and medical treatment.
So a lot of folks on these boats, they have a prescription

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grade antibiotics, right? And like, you know, all the, the
standard everything they would have at an urgent care basically
is what these folks generally carry.
But still, it's not ideal. No, no it's not.
And just a reminder. And this is not against the dog
itself, it's 100% against Buck because this dog is 100%

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reflective of Buck. Not that the dog doesn't have a
personality, but it's the dog's personality meant with Buck's
style of upbringing, which is more like bringing down.
This is a massive pit bull, right?
I fucking love pit bulls. Pit bulls are the cats of the
dog world. Family ass pit bulls.

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We love the fuck out of pit bulls.
They are the sweetest little mother fuckers on the planet,
but we can't deny the fact that they're basically furry little
dinosaurs and they'll fuck you up if they really, really,
really wanted to. Which is also why you love them.
You're like, you're just like a big gentle solid muscle giant
and you're the biggest sweetheart in the world and
you'll protect everyone that youlove and that smiles at you or

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gives you a wink. But like anyone and like any
other animal, if an asshole raises it to be an asshole, it
can be an asshole. And it's super scary.
I mean, I've been bit by more Pomeranians and pit bulls.
They scare me. But in this particular case,
this is an untrained, aggressive, neglected right,

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trained to be aggressive, very much neglected.
Dog. Too very much neglected
emotionally, mentally, physically.
Everything about it is the stereotype of bad Pitbull comes
from this dog Opolo not not helping.
And that's scary as fuck. You know, that's that's also

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why, you know, you have pitbullswhere somebody breaks in this
house, my dog will fuck them up.Well, this is that end of
things. And this kid did not like.
When the singer started rapping,dude, he became bad Pitbull.
The singer Pitbull when he started rapping.
He gave a singing career before Pitbull there, before he was a

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rapper, Mr. Worldwide. I thought it was the opposite.
I thought he was a singer 1st and then a rapper.
Anyways, contact at black cat dot report if you know anything
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What you do first? Like I said, and and while it
wasn't enough to critically injure the boy, like he wasn't
going to bleed out, it was definitely enough to leave a
lasting wound on the group's relationship.
Fast forward a little bit. By that evening, the Caroline,
the one with all the ham radio nerds on it, had already left
Palmyra. Tensions had more or less

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leveled out as best they would, and Buck was back at work,
awkwardly trying to make amends by helping Jack clear the
landing strip. Buck is doing well and he didn't
didn't snap for his dog just without reason biting someone

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because he was probably suffering the dog.
But yeah more than likely if allthey were eating is shitty food
I guarantee the dogs weren't doing well.
But. Yeah, and the dog literally
attacked that bird because it was probably hungry.
Yeah, I can see, you know, I could see any dogs or cats, any,

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any type of animal that has thatlike kind of like prey instinct.
They're just being like, Oh my God, this is intense and fucking
going ham on it. You know what I'm saying?
Like give a toddler, give a toddler like a freaking a
freaking like sugar free 7UP andlet him loosen the ball pit.
It was that kind of aggression, you know what I'm saying?
That makes sense. Yeah.

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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.Yeah.
Either, either or. Dog was probably starved and it
was trying to have fun too. Mixture.
Yeah. Dogs just want to have fun.
Well, they developed a taste forblood.
No, I'm just kidding. Two days later, on July 2nd,
Stephanie spots A2 masted sailboat lined up with the

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island's channel, and before long, Buck, acting completely
out of character, begins rowing their dinghy out to greet the
island's new guests. This is out of character for
Buck. 90% of the time. I I have not quoted a lot of
Buck dialogue because 90% of thetime it's like to which Buck
replied time direct quoting justlike he's Buck grunted.

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Like that is said so many times.I wish I had APDF of of this
book because I would just be able to, you know, control F or
whatever, like search for that shit.
So many Buck grunts. Well, by the time he got within
shouting distance, he saw that on board there was a middle-aged
couple skillfully navigating an impressive yacht, past the

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hazards of the island's jagged coral and down the narrow path
leading into Palmyra's lagoon. It was the Sea Wind captained by
Mack and Muff Graham. Welcome back, back and Muff.
Buck, with an awkward smile, yelled.
There's an extra space over by us.

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Can I help you get in, Mac? Nope, sorry.
We're looking for something a little bit more private.
Buck sat deflated in his tiny rowboat and watched while the
competent couple masterfully hosted by his attempt at a warm

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welcome. But an hour later, Mack and Muff
made their way by foot down the trails and across the island to
introduce themselves to Jack, Stephanie and Buck, along with
all of Jack's crew. But they're kind of irrelevant
to the story. Yeah, yeah.
The crews soon got to know each other, with Mack offering Buck
cigarettes and the two of them laughing about how they had all

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kind of expected to be the only ones on the island when they
arrived. I think the actual joke was we
were going to re enact Adam and Eve, but then we got here and
there were other folks and it was like, like everybody kind of
like went with their partners and they were like, fuck, man.
Now we got to deal with all these other couples.

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Yeah, there's other people, and this island's not big enough for
both of us, you know, like. And Bucks, just like, guess
what, guys? There's community showers it.
Looks like I'm just saying. Think about just saying.
Just have you been to the landing strip?
I'm handing out Flyers for them today.
Here, check this out. And this is a broken eggshell.

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Yeah, you should see what else gets broke over there.
Me. I spent all my money.
Can I borrow $10? Yeah, can we borrow $10?
Need to feed my dogs? You got a kid on board.
I used to. I throw my dog food at bird
strippers. Yeah.
And they stripped. I saw a lot of boobies.

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I saw so many boobies. I saw brown boobies, I saw
yellow boobies, I saw green boobies.
So now have you seen the blue boobies?
You know that was a thing. You know how like nipples have
different shades? Boobies do too.
I'm just finding this out. It was crazy the amount of
boobies on this island. But the jokes became more bitter
when, after only a few hours of their introductions, another

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ship, the Journeyer, crewed by Bernard and Evelyn Leonard,
pulled into the harbor and moored right next to the Iola.
In total, there were now 11 people on the island, with each
boat's crew having fully expected to be the only ones

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enjoying Palmyra's remote isolation of.
Course, I like this island's toosmall for the 11 of us.
Knew we should have went to Willlast.
Well, there was a clear There was a clear but unspoken
resentment that kind of settled through the evening's
conversations as each team triedto politely gauge the length of

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time that the others would be squatting in their paradise,
letters from Mcinmuff in hand. The island's unofficial mayor,
Jack Wheeler, along with his family and their ship's crew,
departed for Hawaii on the morning of July 6th.
Mack and Muff couldn't have viewed Palmyra any differently

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if they had tried. See, while Mack wrote home to
his mother, describing it like atropical Garden of Eden that was
constantly calling to him in every moment, inviting him to
explore. Muff, on the other hand, went to
great lengths detailing the dilapidated buildings, stripped
down vehicles, poisonous fish, the non-stop squawking of the

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birds day and night, and the seemingly endless variety of
bugs, rodents, and general pestsinhabiting every square inch of
the untamed jungle that Mack hadbrought her to.
This is a perfect juxtaposition between when I forced Joey to go
camping with me. Oh, good God, yes.

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And you're just like, dude, it'sso great.
We can sit up, we can get a fire.
We can look at the stars. We can drink.
I'm like, you know, snakes are out there.
You know, there's really big bugs out there.
Yeah, yeah, I know. And they suck.
You know, there's bears out here, too.
And you know you, you sleep horribly.
By that point I'm drunk and I'm like, you know, also sucks.
People suck. People fucking suck, man.

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Let's go look at stars and find you frozen shit and you're like,
I'm just going to sleep in the car and I'm like, I bear love
bears love cars more. I had robbed.
Bears sleeping cars. In the car, a fun joke.
Good luck, this is bears on the side 'cause it.
Wasn't your birthday? It's always your birthday when

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we go out, it's always the best.No, but I just reading that just
now, I'm just like, this is literally how if I was writing
home to my mom and you were writing your home to your mom.
Yeah, this is an inhospitable land.
You'd be Werner Herzog in that clip of him trying to get the
fucking the the riverboat up over the hill and the amsite.

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It's got this land supports. It's a pain.
Everything is in pain. It's death.
It's on organized chaos. Did yes.
That's the outside world for me.This is this, the 711 at the
bottom of the mountain? He's absolute terror.
It is terrible. It's terrible.
They don't even have. They had this one.

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This is a hand blowing machines.I want paper towels.
So what's going on here? You got to have paper.
Towels. Germs Within a week.
Within a week, there was a new chemistry forming between the
island's inhabitants. You see, while Mac and Moff
spent most of their time during this period pursuing Mac's

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jungle adventures, Stephanie began regularly producing
coconut butter and various othersimple goods as she began A
sustained effort to barter with the Leonards and the Grams.
That's smart, though. That's good.
Yeah, the reality was no, that was the best that she could do,

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don't get me wrong, but the reality was she could do.
Yes, yes, the keyword that she could do.
The reality was it had only beenabout two weeks since Buck and
Stephanie had arrived, and supplies on the Iola were
already dwindling. She found herself reliving her
fears that she had experienced afew weeks earlier of them

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running out of rations. This was payback for Buck's
reckless consumption during their month long voyage at sea.
And just as before, while Stephanie made every effort to
be proactive and responsible, Buck sat on his butt and did

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little to contribute. In fact, he negatively
contributed. He started making on a regular
basis. I wasn't sure how to phrase
this. Every time she would come back
from these trades and bartering with the neighbors, he would
make disparaging comments about the other people on the island
and going so far as to mock Stephanie for associating with

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them. He'd be like, oh, the Leonards.
Oh so and so Leonard. He's so uppity.
I don't even know why you're talking to him as he just sat on
his ass all day. And she's like looking at the
food supplies being like, are are you fucking stupid?
Like if I don't suck up to him, we're fucked and you're going to

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get on me. And I'm the one that's making
everything, and I'm the one trying to go out and do this,
and I'm the one trying like fuck's a douche bag.
Still, their neighbors did do what they could do to help the
desperate couple, regularly trading things like fish and
small quantities of ingredients,you know, flour or sugar, things

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like that, for Stephanie's simple homemade goods.
In reality, neither the Grams nor the Leonards had any use for
her constant daily supply of butter that she was pestering
them with. It was kind of like, all right,
girl, you were just here yesterday with coconut butter.
We haven't even used yesterday'scoconut butter.

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Yeah, I guess I can give you a little bit of tobacco for buck
or. Yeah, I guess I can do this.
OK. You know, like, we have rations,
too. Yeah, it was starting to get.
I don't know if you can feel that, but those kind of vibes of
like the tension on the island of like, OK, this isn't growing.
Yeah, this isn't going. You're just mooching.

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You're just mooching, you know, and we're starting to be.
Like, all right, you know, we weall came here thinking we're
going to be by ourselves and nowwe have.
Two mooches. Yeah, and you're 100% right.
So, like, by this point, Stephanie and Buck, we're living
off of charity, and it was starting to annoy.
The hell out of everyone who, like you, just said thought they

(55:21):
were going to be alone to begin with.
Yep. There's nothing worse than when
you're going somewhere and you're like, Oh yeah, it's going
to be the sweetest, most romantic.
You tell your partner it's the sweetest, most romantic time and
then you get there and then there's like there's 15 people
sitting there waiting for you asyou get there.
And then there's like, hey, hey,oh, hey, dude, I didn't even

(55:43):
know you were coming. Oh, that's great, man.
I'm so glad you're here. Hey, what you guys doing later?
So. Oh.
This is Jack Wheeler with more mirrors, Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. What you doing later?
Oh, I think I just want to have like, I think me and my me and
my partner, we're just going to sit and have a really nice,
like, really nice romantic nightin.
Oh, yeah. You mind if I join?

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You know, like that? That's pretty much what it is.
Bro I was wondering like you didn't text me back about the
game like my TV broke. Is it still cool if I come over?
It's like I never said you coulddo that bro, it's the game of
course I can. Why?
Yeah, of course I'll be there. I'll bring the brewskies, I'll
bring the stereo. I know you got a system, but
like, I like my own mix. You know that I'm gonna just pop

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on in there and this whole time you're just waiting in the front
lobby area. You're not even through the
double doors. You're like halfway through the
front door of the double doors and it's just Jack Wheeler
talking to like 19 different mirrors from 7 different
countries. And the Hostess, they just don't
know what the fuck to do becausethey're also a mirror.
That is Jack. Wheeler Yeah.

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He's just all these people, yeah.
Jack Wheeler, a reflection of you?
It's just him with his own campaign commercial.
No. It's insane, Mayor.
Yeah, hey, you know what? You got to have one every every
every new nation state has to have an insane mayor to start I.

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Think it's Opal Kovy or Opal COVID Opal Kovy Opal Kovy but
I'm going to throw this into theplease remind me Joey for the
behind the scenes for this episode.
I need to tell everybody about Opal.
Kovy ran for mayor for multiple years for Toledo.
She is the Jack Wheeler we are describing.

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God damn it. She did pass away which is sad
but I still want to buy her campaign merch.
But I've insulted Toledo wins too much.
They're they're not going to send me shit anyways.
We'll just screen print it. Turn Toledo into a pot of gold,
Goldie. Anyways, the next few weeks

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would show efforts made by the other crews to ease tensions on
the island. I think it got to a point where,
you know, you had two other boats of folks and they were
just kind of like, all right, this is how do we have the
difficult conversations without completely fucking up this Lord
of the Flies kind of situation that's developing here?

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And it's really weird and slash like, you know, fire in paradise
kind of shit. So they, you know, they went the
route both crews, right. So when I say both crews, I mean
like the grams and the and the Leonards, they both kind of at
one point in time went the routeof being like overly hospitable
to try to like prove all of the insecurities they were afraid of

(58:41):
if they just came out and said something to kind of be like,
no, no, no, no, no, it's not anyof this, this, this, this, this,
this. We want you to understand us.
We want you to be comfortable. We want to appreciate us, but we
also want to establish boundaries.
But we also realized how bad it is.
But we also don't know what elsethe fuck to do.
And we're not shitty human beings, so we're trying to go
the nice route, right? This all kind of transpired into

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a series of like, invitations, right?
So up first was the Leonards sending an invitation over to
Buck and Stephanie to come spendthe evening drinking rum and
sharing stories on their yacht. And finally, right, and that was
a nice time. They hung out and they ate food
that didn't suck and they weren't on in their fish shit

(59:27):
filled boat. And like it was like, wait, this
is what boats could be like, fuck, you know, like they had a
nice evening, right? And they tried to bounce out
growing tensions, right? The the responsible adult thing
to do. Well, eventually this would then
transform over to invitation from the Leonards to Buck and

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Stephanie to spend an evening drinking rum, sharing stories on
a very nice yacht. Finally, an evening with Mack
and Muff Graham aboard the sea went.
It was breathtaking, like a welldecorated penthouse,
thoughtfully organized and refined to an area the size of a

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hotel room. There was fine China and vintage
cutlery sitting at a proper dining room table, art and
mementos collected from all around the world, but it was
practical. Everything had a place, and it
was so neatly fitted that one would have to stop and pause to

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even realize that the room was formed around all the necessary
components of a ship. Mac and Muff proceeded then give
them a couture that was like so clearly rehearsed over the
countless evenings spent making friends around the world.
Like this was this was stunning.Immediately when felt like

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everybody knew that the outside of the of the the sea wind like
just gorgeous, right? But when when Buck and Stephanie
finally sat down, they're just like, Oh my God, like this is
like a perfect, you know, five star hotel broom with a full

(01:01:15):
kitchen and with a full everything.
And like, it was one of those spots where like you had to
adjust to realize, Oh, there's apipe running up there.
Oh, there's this over here. Oh, there's implements for
sailing in the IT was so well fitted to the the decade ish of
them dooming everything on this boat and making it just
flawless. This was the perfect sailing

(01:01:37):
vessel, right? Like, you felt at home the
second the boat was in Stillwater, right?
Yeah, Well, I said So. Mac and Muff, during this period
of just awe inspiring realizations and sights, Mac and
Muff gave them a tour that was so clearly rehearsed over their

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countless evenings spent making friends all around the world.
They had done this a million times.
It kind of like there were handoffs between like, like
being like, yeah. And then we done it on the
Pirates. And then Muffa be like, that's
about the part Mac expects me tobring up.
The fact that I thought about itlike it was so rehearsed.
You were you were on their stage.

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And this was home turf, right? This is their home theater even,
and I can't stress this enough, even the usually unimpressed
Buck, who kind of a douchebag about everything, even ice
cream, he like refused to eat it.
He was like man, I'm just bored of this shit.
Like even Buck had to admit thathe was envious over the very

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impressive collection of tools and supplies Mac had Indie ships
on board Workshop. I can't stress this enough.
Separate to everything else, Mack, whose previous main life
was as an engineer who made his way up in, I think it was
General Motors or Ford somewhereup in Detroit anyways, very

(01:03:03):
early in life. Made his way up during the
heyday right of of the big threeright?
Made his way up in the motor industry in Motor City in like
his early 20s. Just fucking kicked ass.
Worked his ass off, became a well known, well respected,
loved engineer. This motherfucker designed

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everything and you're walking into the genius engineer.
Well, you're also walking into agenius engineer's ideal
workspace. And if there's one thing an
engineer loves, it's a challenge, right?
That's how engineers minds fucking work.
So he's like, we need to have all these things and we need to
have this much eventually we need to have this much square

(01:03:48):
feet for the main living area, which leaves me with only this
much square feet for my workspace, which I have
meticulous. So how can I?
And just like brilliant. It's just some cool ass shit,
right? Even if you're not into tools
and stuff like that, which I'm fucking not, you got to
appreciate it when you're like click your elbow against the

(01:04:09):
wall and it's like a jackhammer,a 1973 Corvette, you know what
I'm saying? Like Seinfeld turns over, flips
over the wall, all this shit starts happening.
That's that engineer mindset. It's so fucking cool.
And so this was his fucking playground inside of his ship,
which was his dream. This is cool as shit, right?

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And yeah, it it had everything from construction materials to
carpentry tools to electronics and an Acetylene torch.
Overall, this evening was incredibly pleasant.
There was and literally like I think it was like a three or
four course dinner that they were served, which was like

(01:04:54):
expertly cooked. Everything was perfect.
Dreaming of it. They were sitting together, no
longer covered in dog poop and piss, in a sophisticated
atmosphere that was probably waymore obscure than either one of
them were used to. No offense to them, but they're
both kind of douchebag. So anyways, bucks to Stephanie,

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so yeah. Well anyways, yeah.
So they were together in the sophisticated atmosphere.
They just had a multi course dinner and honestly it was a
welcome escape from the half sunk Iola and never ending
attempts to make coconuts taste anything but like a coconut.

(01:05:37):
Couples wrapped up their night with liquor and music before
Mack handed Buck a full pouch oftobacco and some rolling papers
as a parting gift. Good gift.
Yeah, well, I didn't even say itearlier when Mack or sorry, when
Buck and Mack first met, that first day when Mack and Muff

(01:05:58):
kind of came down the trail and popped up and finally said hi to
him, Mack went to go smoke a more Marlboro Red and Buck was
like looking at him with those like, hungry fiend eyes, right?
And Mack was like, oh, do you want a cigarette?
And Buck not shitting you reached in to act like he was
grabbing 1, grabbed 2 and pulledit out, put one in his pocket

(01:06:22):
just like the most douchebag move you could possibly do Yeah,
and it it was very clear where it's just damn, you know, like
he's he's he's feenin and I understand nicotine like yeah,
like he he's having his nick fits.
I understand that. I'm not gonna judge him on that.
But that also is why I I sucked at writing the script.

(01:06:46):
I didn't include this, but This is why it was so significant at
the end of the night. And Mac was like, hey, you know
what? Here's a giant pouch of tobacco
and some rolling papers. But, like, he's really trying to
make positive, positive rapport,right?
Yeah. But he.
But he's trying, you know? Well, a few days later, the
Leonards would be departing Palmyra, heading back towards

(01:07:10):
Hawaii and taking with them a letter from Muff to mail back to
her mom on the mainland. Earest mother, I don't know why
I sound like this, but this is how Muff sounds now.
Earest Mother, three boats are here now, but one, the
journeyer, is leaving and will take this letter with them.

(01:07:34):
That leaves us alone with a hippie couple who plan to stay
here and live off the land. It's just our luck that they
decided to roost in Palmyra. Mac has cleared the land around
us and set up a little camp ashore that we use as an outdoor
patio area. We found an old table, chairs,

(01:07:56):
bench and platforms to set furniture on.
This other couple, Roy and Stephanie got one of the good
chairs. I'd pulled it closer to our area
and then forgot it. The next day I saw him walking
around our place and when I checked the chair was gone.

(01:08:18):
This Mac says finders keepers, Iguess.
Right near our camp, Mac is set up a workshop with a long
workbench and we really are setting up house.
We've done a little exploring. The other day Mack found a
building on the other side of the lagoon.
He came back to get me and we took flashlights.

(01:08:41):
It appeared to be a hospital andMack thinks a communication
center too. Inside of his spooky to me.
But Mack went right in like he'dbeen there 100 times.
Most of the island is jungle like, and the birds carry on, so
you'd think you were in Africa. The deepest, darkest part.

(01:09:02):
You need a machete to cut your way through and clear away all
the thick spider webs. Roy and Stephanie have run out
of sugar cigarettes and I don't know what everything.
They have bartered with other boats next.
They will ask us. I pray they won't.

(01:09:26):
Roy has a chainsaw that he uses to cut down trees so they can
get to the coconuts easier. It makes Mac furious.
To top it off, they have three dogs.
This island is no place for dogs.
She has a house type dog, very sweet, named Puffer and he has a

(01:09:48):
lab and a pit bull which is trained to hunt.
They don't have enough food for them.
The two big dogs are already roaming out of hunger looking
for anything they can find to eat.
What a mess. Why did we have to arrive at the
same time? Such as life 6° from the

(01:10:14):
equator. Please write to Kurt Shoemaker,
the radio operator in Hawaii I told you about.
He can pass word to us about howyou're doing.
Hope your arthritis is better. Love Muff.
And as of July 16th on the journeyer left, only Mack, Muff,

(01:10:39):
Stephanie and Buck remained on Paul Myra.
And that is where we'll pick back up to Duke, with the
conclusion of what Migrant told I.
Knew you were going to do it when you started reading the
letter. I knew it.
I was like, that letter's not the end.
It's can't be the end God. If you made it this far, great.

(01:11:02):
If you made it this far, I'm going to spoil a little bit for
next week. So whoever the fuck's watching
right now, you came at the righttime.
Point is next week we get into the very rapid build up of
tensions between the Grams and Stephanie and Buck Shake starts
to go downhill of arrow fire. There is another crew that is

(01:11:25):
gonna pop into the situation a lot of and the reason why I've
kind of like referenced some of these letters or reference of
the letters were sent out is because this eventually goes to
trial, right? And this book is written by the
lawyer, right, Vincent Bugliosi.Vincent Bugliosi, He was the the
lawyer that got Charles Manson put behind bars, right?

(01:11:47):
And like his next big, big, big case was was this, which he then
wrote a book about similar to how I believe it was him that
wrote Helter Skelter, right, which was like the definitive
book for so many, so many years about Charles Manson.
Any who's a lot of the evidence that shows been court is based
off of the literal letters that get sent back home from the

(01:12:10):
different people that are going to these islands.
So there's a tradition within the yachting community, you go
out to these these random remoteislands, somebody's going to
leave three weeks, two months before you do, you write out a
letter, you write out the address, you put the stamp on
it, and you say, hey, when you get to wherever the heck do you
mind sending this off to my family for me, Right.

(01:12:32):
Yeah, yeah. And then in this particular
case, which we're building up towith the with the Shoemaker, the
family can then mail letters to a ham radio operator at a nearby
island. The ham radio operator gets the
letters, opens them up and readsthe letters from your family to
you on the island. Right.
So that's kind of how the the circle of communication works.

(01:12:56):
Yeah, Yeah. That's what we're building up
to. And that's also a lot of the
case, along with Stephanie's testimony when this eventually
goes to trial next week. And guess what?
We're not gonna go in depth on the trial because there is
nothing like a lawyer who's famous writing about a case
they're famous for in a book. 300 pages of this book is how

(01:13:22):
awesome he is in court. No one gives a fuck but.
Look how look good, Look how good I am.
Look how goddamn good I am. Anyways, I went back to the
restroom and I said, well, look at those collar bones.
Those colavicles do. You see those massive shoulders?

(01:13:44):
Do you work out? Do you want to work me out?
Oh, sorry, it's a mirror. Didn't see you there, Jack
Wheeler. Well, Joey, before we sail off,
we my bestest friend in the world, Weezer.
We have thank yous. I had to give a few shout outs
to all those majestic sailors swapping the poop decks of the

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Typicals Gila Bear. That's not all.

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and the Uber awesome Max, And ofcourse, the always last but

(01:15:15):
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