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Hey Rebels, welcome toBlasphemous Nutrition.
Consider this podcast yourpantry full of clarity,
perspective, and the nuanceneeded to counter the
superficial health advice sofreely given on the internet.
I'm Aimee, the unapologeticallycandid host of Blasphemous
Nutrition and a double degreednutritionist with 20 years
experience.
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I'm here to share a more nuancedtake.
On living and eating well tosustain and recover your health.
If you've found most healthadvice to be so generic as to be
meaningless, We're so extremethat it's unrealistic, and you
don't mind the occasional fbomb.
You've come to the right place.
From dissecting the latestnutrition trends to breaking
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down published research andsharing my own clinical
experiences, I'm on a mission tofoster clarity amidst all the
confusion, and empower you tohave the health you need to live
a life you love.
Now let's get started.
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Greetings,
dear listener.
Welcome back to Blasphemousnutrition.
I'm your host, Aimee and I justcan't stop eating string cheese
right now.
I don't know.
What it is.
If it's the calcium or the saltor both.
Then I'm just really Jones.
And after.
But damn, I got to tell you, I'mloving me some string cheese
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these days.
But that's not why I'm here tospeak with you.
I'm really excited to see theshift in conversation happening
in the nutrition spaces.
I am well aware that thealgorithm may be fucking with me
by showing me the same messagefrom different sources.
But even outside the internet.
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I'm seeing a really welcomeshift in the conversation about
what it means to nourishourselves.
When Marty Kendall disrupted thelow carb conference in 2022 with
his lecture on nutrient densityand satiety.
But was affirmed later by Quitoadvocate, Andreas Eenfeldt not
sure that I've pronounced that.
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Right.
But he's known as the dietdoctor on the internet and he
did a talk on satiety andprotein.
At the same conference.
And it was in that moment that Iknew there were changes coming.
Since then I've been seeing moreand more big names in the space,
giving time and value toprotein, as well as the notion
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of satiety; that if we're goingto work our way out of the
metabolic mess that the west hasgotten itself into, we are not
going to be able to do it whilebeing famished.
This talk of more protein andmore satiety is a massive shift
in mindset from the restrictivementality that we've grown up
with.
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Now, instead of focusing on whatwe need to eliminate and
restrict, we're havingconversations on what to reach
for, what to include, what toaim for! Instead of nutrition,
being about running away fromdisease, we're now speaking to
how to run towards vitality andhealth.
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Um, God dammit.
I got to say it is about damntime.
If the last 70 years has taughtus anything, it's that
restriction and deprivation arean unsustainable way to
accomplish anything.
It's a set up that requires wealways think in terms of no,
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rather in terms of yes.
If there's anything humans arenot built to withstand.
It's a lifetime of nos.
From dieting to prohibition, tosexual abstinence.
It just doesn't work for nearlyall of us.
And when we make that collectiveaim to.
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Strictly avoid something, right.
We repeatedly see this failureto adhere on a population level.
The American prohibition of the1920s is a great example of
this.
For us to recover our health asa nation, we must learn what it
means to include the foods thatheal in a sustainable way.
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Rather than just saying no tothe hyper processed cheap shit
that's ever present in ourenvironment.
And what is happening.
Is the beginning of a focus onnutrients for health.
This is what will save us all.
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Humans are a biological animalin a biological world that
supplies us with the materialsto keep our biological body
running.
Without these materials, webegin to break down.
Bruce Ames came up with what hecalls the Triage Theory back in
2006, to describe an ideaemerging from his research that
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the body will preferentiallyallocate nutrients to what will
keep the body alive today at theexpense of future longevity.
For example, vitamin K isessential for both blood
clotting.
As well as bone health.
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So.
Vitamin K is absolutelyessential.
If we are going to have ourblood clot, should we get a cut.
And vitamin K is absolutelyessential to preventing
osteoporosis.
If you do not eat enough greenveggies, which are rich in
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vitamin K.
You may have a subclinicaldeficiency.
Symptoms of clinical deficiencyare acute and extreme, such as
bruising because your bloodvessels are not able to clot and
repair after being damaged.
Right.
The idea behind triaged theoryis that the blood will take any
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vitamin K.
It can from food.
And ensure that your blood clotsshould you get injured?
Because this is obviouslycritical.
And then use anything left overfor other less urgent needs,
such as bone health, vascularhealth, and cancer prevention.
But as we age, this perpetuallack of nutrients catches up to
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us and leads us to the chronicdiseases that we are now all too
familiar with.
Now, this theory makes a lot ofsense from an evolutionary
standpoint and it is supportedby research So we can't do
randomized controlled trials onthese ideas because of massive
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human rights violations that itwould entail.
And even if that were not theissue, it would be impossible to
follow a whole generationthrough their life, controlling
their diet, to the degree that arandomized controlled trial
requires.
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We see
that several key nutrients that
are lacking in the diet, such asFoley and vitamin K can lead to
DNA damage over time.
Aging the cells and the body andincreasing the risk of mutations
that lead to cancer, heartdisease, and more..
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One
reason why we may be seeing
chronic disease happeningyounger and younger.
In subsequent generations isthat we are now several
generations into subsisting onmostly processed foods.
Therefore, our children areliterally not built with
sufficient enough materials towithstand the test of time.
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Nor are they getting it frombirth onwards?
Unfortunately, the work of BruceAmes and looking at nutrition
from a nutrient specific angleis not yet the norm.
However, when Sarah Ballantineis able to publish a book about
nutrients and health intendedfor the mainstream population
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and Marty Kendall gets 10,000people in his online community.
I know that the grassrootsefforts of many of us that I've
not yet even heard of are havingan impact.
What we are doing on a moremainstream level.
Is shifting the conversationaway from restricting food
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groups, restricting calories toincluding macronutrients such as
protein.
To discussing the importance ofsatiety as a means of both
sustainability in one's healthmaintenance, as well as itself
being an indicator of nutrientdensity from the food that we
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consumed.
If we continue to lean in thisdirection, we are inevitably
going to fall into a rabbit holethat will lead us to the work of
Bruce Ames and utilizingnutrients from foods to restore
and maintain vibrancy.
When we stop having knee jerkreactions and observe what is
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happening in the body and beginto question why it is happening
and what we need to do tosupport robust health.
We will make significant headwayin healing.
A classic example of this hasgut health.
Now, collectively our guts arepretty fucked up from multiple
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rounds of antibiotics in youth.
To antibiotics still like in thetap water, like our tap water is
tainted with antibiotics becauseof prescriptions and animal
husbandry practices, et cetera.
To not having a diet itself thatsupports a healthy microbiome.
Many people suffer fromdigestive challenges.
IBS, bacterial overgrowth in thebowel and other conditions lead
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to bloating, constipation,diarrhea, hemorrhoids,
heartburn, and so on.
Historically.
We have addressed this.
By treating the symptoms.
Take more antibiotics to killthe overgrowth in the
intestines.
Eliminate the foods that causesymptoms.
And that was the end of thestory.
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But this has brought people tome who are on such restrictive
diets that they're underweight,their hair is falling out and
they are clearly nutrientdepleted as well as being pretty
damn miserable.
And terrified to expand theirdiets because they don't want
their symptoms to return.
Others come to me after multiplerounds of antibiotics or
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antifungals that have still notfixed the problem, and sometimes
have even created additionalhealth issues as a side effect.
When we start looking at whatthe inflamed imbalanced gut
lacks,.We can support it intobeing able to tolerate more of
the foods that it currentlystruggles to digest.
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In a functional nutritionclinic.
This may look like adding inbeneficial bacteria to
counterbalance an opportunisticinfection.
Systematically retesting foodsto see which are tolerated
because very, very, very, veryfew people our initially
sensitive to all foodscontaining FODMAPs.
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Or all foods that arerecommended to be eliminated in
an auto-immune paleo protocol.
In addition to this, it isimportant to address stress that
is carried in the body andfoster a mindset to be receptive
to change.
As the mind and the gut areinextricably linked and research
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supports the notion that gutfeelings are fricking legit ass
shit.
The mind impacts the guts andthe guts impact the mind.
Many people who have IBS willstraight up tell you that is
true.
They get to live it day-to-day.
And imbalanced gut often lacks,microbial diversity as well as
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key metabolites, such as shortchain, fatty acids that have a
multitude of benefits upon thebody.
By addressing what the diseasedbody lacks.
We can restore health.
Instead of focusing on stoppingthe symptoms.
We can recover and reclaim ourhealth by asking what is needed
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here.
And seeing which of these keythings is missing from the body
and working to restore andreplenish that.
This needs to happen on aphysical level.
This needs to happen on anemotional level.
And sometimes this also needs tohappen on a spiritual level.
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All of these things make up whowe are and our health.
Now, when I look at nutrientdensity with my client.
And we focus on supplying theirbody with the nutrients they
need.
There are all sorts ofunintended side effects that
crop up.
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One of the most surprising towitness, even though it's
validated by research.
Is the improvement in mentalhealth and resiliency.
Vegetables, especially greenleafy ones do tend to make
people happier, less stressedand more content.
It's the most amazing thing.
I still can't get over it.
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And there's a part of me that'slike, is this really true?
Is this actually like, is thisreal.
And I'd see it.
I'd see it in my group.
Challenges on eating leafygreens.
I'd see it, you know, with myclients and well, they would be
coming to me right.
And saying, well, I just feelhappier.
I feel so much better.
I just feel like I can handlestress more.
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And.
It was really highlighted for meduring my greens challenges,
which I used to host once a yearand we'll be resuming again in
2025.
the focus of the challenge waslike, just eat something green,
just eat something green and acouple of weeks in people would
be remarking.
About how much better they feltmentally.
And I saw this year over a year.
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And I've also observed it withmy private clients.
And then found, research,observational research
supporting that particularlygreen vegetables do have a
correlation with.
Reduce depression and anxiety.
It's just fantastic.
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Now I also see focusing on keynutrients is sometimes all that
is needed to reduce or eliminatethe need for blood pressure or
cholesterol medication.
Particularly if someone has afresh diagnosis and they're
coming in wanting to either notstay on that prescription or
prevent.
Having that prescription we canmake a lot of headway really
quickly to eliminate the needfor the body to utilize that
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medication, to stabilizemetabolic health.
People also find that theirjoint pain resolves their energy
improves and stabilizes.
And they begin to have thewherewithal to do things that
they've been wanting to do intheir life.
And this is where that mind,body spirit connection.
Really shows up.
Many times as people begin tofeel better because they are
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being nourished because theirbody has what they need.
The body has what it needs toput all the pieces together to
function more optimally.
And when you are living in abody that has more energy, that
feels more rested, that thinksmore clearly.
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You start.
To expect more of that.
And you start to take a look.
At what you want to change, thatdoesn't support your health and
vitality.
And many times this involvesreassessing personal
relationships.
Taking a hard look at their workenvironment.
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Or other areas of life that arenegatively impacting their
quality of life.
Nutrition can be so potent inthis way.
And I've seen it too many timesin my career to just chalk it up
to coincidence.
So imagine.
If we collectively as apopulation.
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In the Western world, right?
Whether you're in Britain,whether you're in Australia,
whether in the you're in theUnited States, wherever you are.
If we collectively had theenergy and the vitality that we
wanted.
Would we, in the Western world,be putting up with all the
bullshit we are putting up within the political spheres and the
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medical systems.
Right.
Be it, the revolving door ofprime ministers in Britain or
the unfucking believablenarrative that we are being
forced to swallow that iselection year 20, 24.
Like really, is this reallyhappening?
And we're really gonna put upwith that Would we be able to
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take a moment and hear outsomebody's differing viewpoint.
If we had the bandwidth toactually do so.
I mean.
It is not just nutrition thathas us exhausted, worn out and
at our wits end.
But certainly if we were betternourished, we could have the
bandwidth to reconsider theirtrajectory of our nations.
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In a more actionable way.
Rather than as a client, put itbe dragged, kicking and
screaming behind the carriage asit careens off a cliff.
That seems to kind of be thegeneral sentiment.
That we're all living through atthis moment in time when things
are.
So chaotic and unstable andscary.
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Coming back to the topic athand.
I recently went to apersonalized medicine conference
in London.
And I was really quite pleasedto see that they had a full day
dedicated to nutrition.
While there were some speakerswho stayed in this paradigm of
restriction.
I did see several speak toincreasing diversity of foods
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consumed and talking about theimportance of satiety and
consuming more of certain thingsrather than less.
Additionally, my colleagues whowent to the Institute for
functional medicine's conferencea week earlier.
Told me that Stacy Sims.
Who is a researcher focused onwomen's health and sports and a
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strong protein advocate.
Was the speaker there.
Stacy Sims was one of the first.
Researchers who became aninfluencer.
Talking about protein and theimportance of protein for women.
So to see her step into thefunctional medicine world as an
outsider, because her career isnot in functional medicine.
She is a researcher in labs.
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She's got research labs,conducts clinical research in
female sports nutrition, Inhydration and the female body on
menstrual cycle fluctuations andwhat that means for sports
performance, right?
Like she's, she's a clinicalresearcher.
So seeing her brought into thefunctional medicine world as
this outsider is absolutelywonderful.
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This is a welcome collaborationin my eyes.
And I'm so grateful she got thestage to share such important
information about the value ofprotein to our health providers.
Additionally, it seems like theIFM conference moving forward
is, will do so in collaborationwith the American nutrition
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association.
So this gives our nurses and ourdoctors and our functional
medicine practitioners,additional opportunities to
learn about nutrition.
And it also gives skillednutritionists access and
collaboration, possibilitieswith doctors and nurses and my
God, this is a win win.
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As someone who has been in thefield for two decades and has
studied nutrition since theearly nineties.
I am absolutely thrilled to seethis shift in thinking and the
integration of nutritionalongside overall health.
In medicine.
And it is an inclusion ofnutrition with the conversation
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leaning more and more towardswhat will make us healthy and
vital rather than just what tofear and avoid.
And this is important.
We are learning to say yes tohealth.
We are learning to open up andlean into vitality rather than
push away fear and contractagainst disease.
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What we focus on grows and whatwe resist persists.
It's a saying for a reason, andfor nearly the whole history of
nutrition and medicine, we havebeen focused on disease and
restriction.
While, it has served us in someways.
Remaining limited to thismindset alone has also cost us a
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great deal of progress.
In the area of human vitality.
The field of nutrition began asan exploration of what foods,
not nutrients, because thesewere largely unknown, but what
foods would keep a soldierstrong and healthy on the
battlefield?
And in the process of findingthese foods, we began to also
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discover nutrients, nutrientsthat eliminated diseases like
scurvy and palegra.
And we turned our attentionthere.
And as palega and beri-beri andother nutritional diseases of
the pre-industrial ages werelargely eradicated.
We kind of put ourselves intothis position of thinking what
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nutrient takes care of thisproblem.
Right.
And within that 50 yeartimeframe that all of this was
happening, there was thediscovery of antibiotics.
So this idea take this toeradicate that became even more
entrenched.
Now.
Certainly medicine was reactiveand symptom-based long before
this, but the need to be soproactive as to protect lifespan
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was not as urgent, a need afterantibiotics and sanitation
eliminated many early deaths dueto acute infection.
So we turned our attention toeliminating the chronic diseases
that begin to crop up.
When more of us started to livepast 50.
And these were predominantlydiseases of the heart as well as
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cancer.
And when viewed through thislens, Of what do we need to
eradicate this disease?
It became about cutting out orkilling the cancer and cutting
out repairing or eliminating theplaque that clogged the
arteries.
This plaque has a great deal ofcholesterol in it.
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And that was the observationthat brought us to the belief
that dietary cholesterol wouldkill us and needed to be
severely restricted.
It was a 70 year long mistakethat we have only recently been
able to move past.
On that theme of plaque.
There is plaque buildup in thebrain of those with Alzheimer's.
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We have invested nearly all ofour research dollars into
eliminating this plaque in thebrain and have come up with
multitudes of differentmedications, aiming at doing
this.
We have nothing to show for it.
Because that is the wrongquestion to be asking.
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The writing is on the wall withthe current.
Research tract of Alzheimer'sdrugs.
And I think people are startingto move in a different
direction.
But I don't think it's going tobe the right direction because
it's still really pharmaceuticalbased.
And not root caused based whatis causing our brains to atrophy
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and that plaque to be laid down.
That is the direction that weneed to go into.
We didn't stop.
Like with heart disease, wedidn't stop to ask why does the
heart clog.
Why do cells become cancerous?
Now in all fairness, we probablydidn't have the technology to
answer that question back in theforties and fifties.
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But I can't help, but wonderwith heart disease with cancer
and with Alzheimer's.
had we started there?
Had we started with thequestion?
Why is this happening?
What would we have uncovered?
About human health and vitalitythese past 70 years.
If we held that question in ourhand alongside of how do we get
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rid of this?
What would we have discoveredalong the way?
I feel deep in my bones.
We're on the precipice of awhole new paradigm.
On what health means?
The systems that have been inplace since, before we were
born.
Are crumbling before our eyes.
Nobody is pretending anymorethat the old way of doing things
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is viable and effective.
Voices are emerging withanswers.
And when you're out therelistening, listen with your
heart, as well as your mind.
Who is out there speaking to afuture that makes you say yes.
Who is shifting away from whatyou know is not working for you
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and is sharing information froma vantage point of depth and
consideration.
Not just.
To what you wish to stay awayfrom.
But to what you wish to growinto.
Physically, emotionally,spiritually.
These voices, these voices arethe future of health.
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You now always want to put onyour critical thinking cap and
use your brain to vet them.
Because there are a lot ofskilled.
Marketers out there who know howto tug at our heartstrings
powerfully.
And you always want to use yourbrain to vet your heart and your
heart to that your brain, right.
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Both are.
Equal players at the table.
So keep what your heart is drawnto into consideration as you use
your mind to suss out whetherthis bullshit or legit.
But focus your attention on thevoices that feel expansive and
supportive and go there.
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Like this is what is needed.
This is what is needed from ourhealthcare providers and our
whole fricking healthcaresystem.
This is what is needed in ourpolitical sphere.
This is what is needed in ourpersonal relationships.
And if you head in thatdirection, I think we're all
going to find ourselves in amuch brighter future that we
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will feel content to pass alongto our children.
Folks.
Thank you so much for thisexceptionally esoteric.
And I'm optimistic episode ofBlasphemous nutrition.
I'm not all doom and gloom andI'm all not.
Rants about the bullshit that Isee everywhere.
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So.
I've just feel really positivecoming out of this conference
and seeing the conversationsthat are happening.
In the real world, as well as onthe internet, we really are
moving in a positive direction.
And I do feel hopeful that it'sa trajectory that is not a fad,
but is really a door openinginto a new way of looking at
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health.
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