Summary
Susruth, CEO of Garden Finance, shares how his background in cybersecurity and early work in DeFi led him to launch a cross-chain liquidity protocol focused on user custody and seamless UX. He explains how Garden leverages atomic swaps and HTLCs to enable trustless trading across blockchains, with a special focus on Bitcoin. Susruth emphasizes the need to simplify user workflows, listen to community feedback, and target specific user profiles to drive product-market fit and sustainable growth. The conversation also dives into the competitive DeFi landscape, Garden’s philosophy of building fundamental rails, and plans to expand across chains.
Takeaways
– Susruth’s crypto journey started with a cybersecurity interest and early exposure to Ethereum and DeFi
– He worked on foundational DeFi projects like Republic Protocol and REN before founding Garden
– Garden Finance focuses on solving cross-chain liquidity fragmentation while preserving user custody
– Atomic swaps and HTLCs are key primitives for enabling trustless trades, especially with Bitcoin
– The Garden philosophy draws from global financial systems, emphasizing interoperability
– A great user experience and safe, simple workflows are core to the product vision
– Differentiation in the crowded DeFi space comes from targeting niche users and building defensible rails
– Community feedback is crucial to iterating the product and identifying the “one ideal user”
– Sustained volume growth depends on strong customer engagement and retention
– Garden aims to expand to multiple chains and become a core infrastructure layer in DeFi
Timeline
(00:00) Intro to Susruth and Garden Finance
(03:09) How cybersecurity led him into crypto
(06:10) Early work in DeFi with REN and Republic Protocol
(09:02) Founding Garden to address cross-chain fragmentation
(12:07) Global finance as inspiration for Garden’s design
(15:00) Designing a better DeFi user experience
(18:01) Bridging Bitcoin and other assets trustlessly
(22:40) Improving HTLCs for UX and security
(24:02) Competing in a crowded DeFi ecosystem
(25:40) Building safe and simple infrastructure
(27:32) Finding product-market fit through niche audiences
(31:04) Engaging users to grow volume
(33:53) Defining the ideal user to guide development
(37:05) Using community input to shape the roadmap
(39:58) Long-term vision: expansion and ecosystem growth
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