How Scientology Turns Space Opera Into Spiritual Debt - Scientology Secrets #20 - Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed

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SPEAKER_05 (00:26):
Welcome back, everybody.
Welcome to another episode ofBlown for Good, Scientology
Exposed.
I'm here with my lovely wife,Claire.

SPEAKER_00 (00:32):
Howdy, howdy.
Good to see everybody.

SPEAKER_05 (00:36):
We have an exciting episode for you today.
Anyone who's watched the channelfor uh a minute knows that I
love me some Xenu.
Okay.
And we're going to be talkingabout Scientology and the Alien
Overlord, Lord Xenu, theintergalactic overlord Xenu.

SPEAKER_00 (00:56):
Yep.
It might be, you know, borderingon obsession at this point, but
it's all good.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01):
What?
Obsession?
I don't think so.
Obsession.
I'm not obsessed with Xenu.
I just like talking about him.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09):
Sure.
Whatever you like to tellyourself.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11):
Um anyway, let's find out.
We we like to do a thing on thechannel where we find out where
everybody's watching from.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18):
So Claire's gonna read off some things.
And we do have some funnycomments from the uh Zenu is no
carry carry.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24):
No, Zenu is my homeboy.
There you go.

SPEAKER_05 (01:26):
Because this person said Zenu is my homeboy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:30):
Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 (01:32):
Now let's not fight over Zenu.
Okay, he can be everybody'shomeboy if they want him to.

SPEAKER_00 (01:37):
Sure.
Whatever.

SPEAKER_05 (01:38):
Um, and then this person says, Wait, how do we
know Xenu is a boy?
Zenu is my home girl.
Now, I don't want to ruffle anyfeathers here, but this is an
advanced alien civilization, sothey know what's up.
So it's a dude, okay?

SPEAKER_00 (01:51):
Oh my god.
My my um, I couldn't wait to dothat.
Yeah, he was really gettingexcited.
He's like, Oh, I've got the bestresponse to that.
Coffee milk, dude.
I love the AI versions ofMiscavige and others.
Pretty funny.
Yep, Mark likes messing aroundwith uh grok does necessary
trouble in the house.
Hello, all from Eastern,Montana.

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Hogsbelly, hi from London, UK.
Sherry, hi everyone from aChili, Minnesota.
Poodlebone, hello from New YorkCity.
Carla Green, hello, everyonefrom England.
Nice.
Nice.
I love it when the we got to doit earlier.

SPEAKER_05 (02:29):
If we do an earlier video, they'll they'll show up.

SPEAKER_00 (02:32):
Yes, we just can't, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (02:34):
Can't wait till after the Broncos game at five
o'clock.

SPEAKER_00 (02:38):
Well, the Broncos are not playing today.

SPEAKER_05 (02:40):
That's right.
They went on Thursday.

SPEAKER_00 (02:41):
Yay, go Broncos by the skin of their teeth.
Not their best game ever.
Mary Kate, happy Sunday fromAlbuquerque, New Mexico.
And Yvonne, hi friends fromKerda Aline, Idaho.
Chubby Ninja, hi fromCopenhagen, Denmark.

SPEAKER_05 (02:56):
Oh, good.
We got some Denmark folks.

SPEAKER_00 (02:58):
Cher, hello from the Netherlands.
Nice.
Barbara, hello everyone from asnowy western New York.
Wow, snowy.
Oh, we didn't know.
We have not had snow yet.
This is very concerning.
It is November 9th, and we havenot yet had our far snow of the
season.
All is not right.
Uh Sue, hi everybody.

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Greetings from rainy central NewYork.
All right.
Rebecca, we talking Zeno.
Hmm, starting to feel a littletickle of a cough.
Must be pneumonia.
There you go.

SPEAKER_04 (03:29):
I'll talk about that in the video, what that means.

SPEAKER_00 (03:32):
Catherine, hello from the Shire, also known as
the Willamette Valley, Oregon.

SPEAKER_05 (03:37):
I thought the Shire was in the Hobbit.

SPEAKER_00 (03:39):
I know we were talking about this.
Maybe it's both.

SPEAKER_05 (03:43):
Okay.
Well.

SPEAKER_00 (03:44):
There you go.
Whatever.
We got it now.
Magda, hello from Washington.
Nice.
Trevinon.
Good evening from theNetherlands.
Julie.
Hello from Media, Pennsylvania.
Tujah, Matika.
Hello from Lisbon.
Oh, I know that name.
Patrina, hello from Reading, UK.

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Hi, Prina.
Becky, big brother fan.
Good evening, everyone fromRainy Reading, UK.
Firebirds, Child.
Hi from Philadelphia.
Miss Freedom97.
Hello from Texas.
Grace Case.
Hello from finally not hotAustin, Texas.
Yay for fall.
Scientology.

(04:26):
Hello from New England.
Nice.

SPEAKER_05 (04:28):
Oh, I might have skipped over one here.
I'll look at this one.

SPEAKER_00 (04:32):
Christopher, hello from Los Feliz.
Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_05 (04:36):
Did I do did I skip over this one?

SPEAKER_00 (04:37):
No, we did.
Oh, no, you did.
Joseph, greetings from Chile,Indianapolis.
Deborah, hi from WisconsinDells.
We have snow.
Nice.
We're jealous.
Scientology, hello from NewEngland.
Yep, we're good now.
Oh, I missed that one.
Greetings from Glasgow, LC.
Um, hi from Atlanta.

(04:58):
Nice.
Hello from South Dakota.
Hi, Kathy.
And Brisker in the house, Mitchfrom somewhere in SoCal.
Okay, very mysterious.
Awesome.

SPEAKER_05 (05:08):
I think we got him.
I think we got him, guys.

SPEAKER_00 (05:10):
All right.

SPEAKER_05 (05:11):
Um, okay, so should we just get right into it?

SPEAKER_00 (05:15):
Yeah, well.
Sorry, I got distracted for amoment by our kitty cat.

SPEAKER_05 (05:21):
I know I told you to tell somebody to get him because
he's gonna come hang out downhere and meow that he wants to
get in with us.

SPEAKER_00 (05:26):
Yeah, exactly.
Okay.
I figured before we get into it,we could just talk about some of
the things that we do behind thescenes.
Uh, we do we talk to a lot ofpeople, of course, from all over
the place in Scientology, underthe radar Scientology, exposing
Scientology.
But in the last few weeks, we'vedone a few things worth talking
about.
Um, a couple of weeks ago, I dida a um a class with a with a

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college course in Australia in ain a college.
And um I was really impressed bythe questions that were asked.
Um, this is something that MikeGrinder used to do, and they
asked me to fill in.
So I did it's like a zoom.
You zoom in to this class tothis college class on um it's

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you know, doing a study of uhdifferent new religions and
cults and so forth.
And the questions that each allof the students asked were just
amazing.
And then you did something thislast week too.

SPEAKER_05 (06:27):
I did an interview, I do interviews all the time.

SPEAKER_00 (06:29):
Well, I know, but I figured it was just worth
talking about.

SPEAKER_05 (06:32):
It was for it was for an article that I think is
coming out tomorrow in Sydney.
I don't have a link to it yet.
I'll put a link up on the Blownfor Good X account, but um, and
maybe we can put it on theYouTube account as well.
We can put it on the communitypage.

SPEAKER_02 (06:47):
We can do that.

SPEAKER_05 (06:48):
But um, they were looking into whether or not a
Scientology school in Sydney wasconnected to the C organization
and Scientology.
So I explained to them all howABLE International and Applied
Scholastics and all that stuffworks.

SPEAKER_00 (07:05):
Scientology front groups, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (07:07):
Scientology 100% runs a school that uses
Scientology technology.

SPEAKER_00 (07:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (07:12):
Um, yes.
So um, yeah, we do we doactually, I was thinking about
that.
You're right.
We do do a lot of stuff, notjust on the channel.

SPEAKER_00 (07:20):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (07:21):
But you know, other stuff for other people and
people that want to do that.

SPEAKER_00 (07:25):
In addition to breaking people out on the reg,
you know.

SPEAKER_05 (07:27):
Yeah, that's true.
We do that too.
The Scientology thing, it neverends, man.

SPEAKER_00 (07:33):
Yep.
Um it will end eventually, butwe're we're here until the end.
We we'll be here till the bitterend.

SPEAKER_05 (07:41):
Exciting.
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (07:43):
There you go.

SPEAKER_05 (07:43):
Let's do the Zenu thing.

SPEAKER_00 (07:45):
All right, let's get into it.

SPEAKER_05 (07:46):
We didn't, oh God, there goes my uh thing.
We we didn't tell everybody inthe comments to tell us where
they're watching from, but theydid it anyway.

SPEAKER_00 (07:54):
I know they really are trained.
Thank you guys.
We love it.

SPEAKER_05 (07:57):
They trained like amazing.
They just jam in there.

SPEAKER_00 (08:00):
Um insert eye roll.

SPEAKER_05 (08:03):
But also, everybody who's entered a comment into the
video will be selected, theywill be entered in to win a
giveaway.
Oh my Davy doll, he fell overone of these little jammies.
Fake Navy Davy.

SPEAKER_00 (08:19):
Yes, we had so many great um photo contest entries
for October.
So don't forget, this is a newmonth, November.
Uh, if you're thankful for whatwhatever, I'll I won't go down
that that rabbit hole.

SPEAKER_05 (08:33):
Thankful.
If you want a cat toy or a dogtoy, pick yourself up one of
these little bad boys.
They love cat.
I don't know what it is aboutanimals, they really do love
these things.
They do dogs too.
They're like a little stick fora dog.

SPEAKER_00 (08:48):
Yep, exactly.
So we're looking forward toseeing.
We've already got a few entriesfor November.
Um, but we're we always love thecreativity from everyone who
participates in this fun littlecontest that we do to keep it
light and keep it entertaining,or at least try to.

SPEAKER_05 (09:04):
Yes, and we did figure out what the deal is with
Claire's camera.
When when when she's on, she hasa separate camera that's
duplicated to two differentfeeds.
And when see the top feed is abetter quality, sharper, and
then the bottom feed is the onethat's the secondary feed.
So we'll figure that outsomehow, some point.

SPEAKER_00 (09:24):
Yep, it's but for now, if I'm looking fuzzy, I'm
not feeling fuzzy, so it's allgood.

SPEAKER_05 (09:30):
She looks just fine, people.
Uh okay, now let's talk aboutXenu and Scientology.
Now we're gonna cover everythingabout Xenu because some people
might this might be their veryfirst video on Lord Xenu and how
it it relates to Scientology andall this other stuff.
So Xinu and Scientology.
Here we go.
So these are the origins of ofLord Xenu in L.

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Ron Hubbard's writings.

SPEAKER_03 (09:55):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (09:56):
Okay.
So Xinu is he was part of theGalactic Federation.

SPEAKER_00 (10:01):
Confederation.

SPEAKER_05 (10:02):
Confederation.
What did I say?

SPEAKER_00 (10:04):
Federation.

SPEAKER_05 (10:05):
Oh, is it a confederation or is it a
galactic federation?
I think it is a confederation.
It's a confederate of manyplanets.
Um, and they think that Xinu isbad.

SPEAKER_03 (10:17):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (10:18):
Scientology.
They don't worship Xenu.
There's a lot of confusion onthat they worship aliens or they
Zenu is their god.
No, no, Zenu is Lex Luthor inthe Scientology world.
He's a bad guy.

SPEAKER_03 (10:30):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (10:31):
Now, that doesn't mean he is a bad guy, because
they'd think we're bad guys too.

unknown (10:36):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (10:36):
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 (10:37):
But Lord Zenu is the one who designated Earth, also
known as TGAC, as a prisonplanet.

SPEAKER_05 (10:45):
Yeah, I think we're going to get to that.
But either way, um, hesupposedly was a bad guy,
according to Scientology.

SPEAKER_02 (10:51):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (10:52):
He was part of the Galactic Confederation, which
was an alliance of all thesedifferent planets.
And um, they were this is a wayoff in space.
I want to say somewhere thatHubbard said it was like nine
light years or some amount, 70light years, or many, many light
years from Earth.
Okay, so let's keep that intonot in the same zip code, in

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other words, definitely not inthe same zip code.
We're talking about a longdistance relationship.

SPEAKER_01 (11:20):
Yes, for sure.

SPEAKER_05 (11:21):
Okay.
So, and this was this allhappened 75 million years ago.
Okay, that's when this thingthat we're talking about, when
Lord Zenu first showed up on theradar, was 75 million years ago.

SPEAKER_01 (11:35):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (11:36):
Okay.
Now this gets crazier as we go.
Well, if it hasn't gotten crazyalready, it gets worse.

SPEAKER_00 (11:44):
Okay.
So there's And wait, there'smore.

SPEAKER_05 (11:46):
Yeah, wait, there's more.
So there was an overpopulationand these planets, these the 76
Alliance planets, had 178billion people per planet.
It was a little bit crowded.
Just a just a tad.
But to be fair, we don't knowthe size of these planets.

SPEAKER_00 (12:07):
I know, that's what I was gonna say.
We have many missing pieces ofit.

SPEAKER_05 (12:10):
There's a lot of holes in this story.

SPEAKER_00 (12:12):
Yes, of course.
You cannot insert logic into anyof this, just FYI.

SPEAKER_05 (12:16):
And also were there that many, it was that many
people per planet.
Well, that would kind of denotethat the planets were all the
same size.

SPEAKER_00 (12:27):
Good point.
Again, you can't insert too muchlogic.

SPEAKER_05 (12:30):
And also, how is it that they divided people among
these planets so perfectlyevenly?

SPEAKER_00 (12:36):
True.
Maybe they had like a a um, youknow, max capacity.

SPEAKER_05 (12:40):
Well, also, okay, there's another point we don't
know.
We don't know how big thesefolks were.
Okay, they could have been theycould have been little
mice-sized people.
True.
And then it's a whole notherpoint.
Then it's a whole nother ballgame.

SPEAKER_00 (12:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (12:53):
A lot of holes in this story.

SPEAKER_00 (12:55):
Yeah, nor do we know how much real estate they had,
either on the surface, or maybethat some of these were
populatable, populatableunderneath the surface.

SPEAKER_05 (13:05):
Yeah, regardless, there's a lot of holes in the
story.
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (13:09):
But maybe they had multi-tiers, like you could go
up above the planet.

SPEAKER_05 (13:13):
But they didn't want they didn't want all these
people.
No, that's the bottom line.

SPEAKER_00 (13:17):
Yeah, they had a problem.

SPEAKER_05 (13:18):
Too many folks, aliens on all these 70, 76
planets?
Yeah, 76 planets.
Okay.
So Lord Zenu.

SPEAKER_00 (13:30):
And boy, how did they manage to?
I mean, we have enough problemson our planet.
Can you imagine 76 planets beingan alliance?

SPEAKER_05 (13:37):
Yeah, but also it's just there's so many, so many
holes in this story.

SPEAKER_00 (13:42):
Wow.

SPEAKER_05 (13:43):
Okay.
But now listen, um, Zenu wasbasically tasked with getting
rid of these folks.

SPEAKER_00 (13:49):
Yes.
And he very carefully selectedthe unwanted segments of
population that should bedepopulated, which was uh Well,
no, it was people who owedtaxes.
Well, it was owed taxes, it wasthe criminals, it was the
artists, okay, it was the um thesmart people, like the
philosopher type minds.

SPEAKER_04 (14:11):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (14:11):
So get rid of anyone who's gonna ask any questions,
get it get rid of anyone who'sgonna ask cause any problems,
get rid of the creative folk,you know.

SPEAKER_05 (14:20):
Okay, so basically all the aliens that were up to
doing something that they didn'twant, basically.

SPEAKER_00 (14:26):
Well, but to be fair, uh, they weren't
necessarily aliens.

SPEAKER_05 (14:30):
We're all talking, we're talking about well,
they're aliens because they'renot from I know, but they
weren't from Earth.

SPEAKER_00 (14:36):
No, they weren't.

SPEAKER_05 (14:37):
They're aliens.
Yes, exact they're not fromEarth.
What kind of alien?
We don't know if they wereKlingons or I know, but I don't
want to body shame the beings.
Body shame.
What a man.
Oh my goodness.
Okay, so they take these aliens,okay.
Now, this is also the most uhthis is insanity.

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They want to fly all thesealiens from their galactic
federation of 76 planets, andthey want to bring them to
Earth.
Okay.
Now, this is where I think thestory really starts to break
apart, okay?
Because they wanted to transportthem in planes that look like

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DC8s.
Okay.
Now, how to tell me that youwrote this in the 1960s without
telling me you wrote this in the1960s.
Hubbard, a science fictionwriter, that's also a great
point.
If your buddy is your buddystarts a religion and he's a
baker, probably not going to beany aliens in his uh in his

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origin story.
Maybe some, maybe somecroissants, maybe some bread
rolls, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (15:46):
Starter kits.

SPEAKER_05 (15:46):
Really awesome start, sourdough starter, but
probably not any aliens.
Yeah, if your religion wasfounded by a science fiction
writing, the chances of youhaving aliens in your origin
story increases exponentially.

SPEAKER_00 (16:01):
True, true, true.

SPEAKER_05 (16:03):
Okay.
So they take them to TGAC.
That's what Earth is called inin Hubbard's OT3 writings,
operating fate in level three.

SPEAKER_00 (16:12):
He calls Earth TGA, also known as the wall of fire.

SPEAKER_05 (16:16):
That's what OT3 is known as, the wall of fire, yes.
Yes, okay.

SPEAKER_00 (16:20):
Because going through that level is
transpiring, that was you, notme, transpiring the wall of
fire, getting to the other sideof a wall of fire.

SPEAKER_05 (16:30):
Yes.
Okay.
Now, where do you put thesepeople?
Well, you in order to transportthem, also many, many light
years it took them to come here.
That's why I think this DC eightstory.
I mean, I don't know what kindof DC8s you guys are flying on,
but the ones I've been on orseen, they ain't doing warp or

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light speed any time.

SPEAKER_00 (16:54):
Maybe they had some special alien fuel.

SPEAKER_05 (16:57):
I know, but it just is so silly to me that they have
DC eights.

SPEAKER_01 (17:00):
Of course.

SPEAKER_05 (17:01):
Okay.
Agreed.
And where are they gonna put allthese guys?
Yeah, they they froze theydidn't did they freeze them when
they train before theytransported them.
So they froze them in likeglycol.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (17:14):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (17:14):
And then they brought them to earth and then
they dumped them in volcanoes.
And it was like 10 differentvolcanoes, some of which didn't
even exist.
Hubbard laid out where all thevolcanoes were based on where
volcanoes are now.
But 75 million years ago, thosevolcanoes weren't there.

SPEAKER_00 (17:36):
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (17:36):
Another big giant hole in the story.

SPEAKER_00 (17:38):
Well, another big giant hole in the story is that
a Thetan is considered to beseparate to the physical
universe, like not associatedwith the Yeah, it's like a soul,
not a it's like a it's sotherefore, if that's the case,
yeah.
How can it be trapped in ahydrogen cube?

SPEAKER_05 (17:56):
Well, okay.
They've got alien tech we don'tknow about.

SPEAKER_00 (18:00):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (18:00):
That's plausible.
Okay, they can do shit we can'tdo.
All right, okay, but they can'tcome up with a better jet or
space plane.
Okay, let's just leave thatthere.

SPEAKER_00 (18:12):
Maybe that was the most modern.

SPEAKER_05 (18:13):
We'll put a pin in that.
That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 (18:16):
Available in the 60s.

SPEAKER_05 (18:17):
He was like, what kind of planewas it?
No, he doesn't, he just saysthey would look like DC eights,
but with different engines.

SPEAKER_03 (18:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (18:26):
Not that's not how they're built.
I guarantee you, no spaceshipgoing forward for the rest of
time will look like a DCA.
Okay.
So he dumps these, um, he dumpsthese aliens, he freezes them,
and then he dumps them in thevolcanoes, and then he made this
device to capture them when theycame out of the volcano.

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Okay.
And that captured the souls,what they call body thetans.
Now, in Scientology, this isanother very confusing point
because when you're new inScientology, you learn about
theta and this and theta andthat, and the mind and the body
and the theton, theton, thetan,thetan, thatin, thetan.
Okay.
Now it's not thetan, it'sthetan, like satan with lisp,

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thetan.
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (19:15):
Now pronunciation is key.

SPEAKER_05 (19:19):
It is, because if you say thetan, it's funnier,
but it's not the that's not howthe Scientologists will know you
don't know what you're talkingabout.
That's right.

SPEAKER_00 (19:26):
So you gotta say, just remember Thetan rhymes with
Satan, and you got a good that'sright.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (19:32):
Okay, so now you have these souls that they've
captured, and then they somehowthey gathered all these things
up, and then they implanted themby putting them in giant
floating movie screens, likevideo walls.
And they played images to allthese souls so that they would

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like the man on the cross andangels and demons and demons,
and they played them all thesethe cherub and the chariot and
all the trains and all theseweird Scientology books.
The imagery on these on allScientology basic books are the
images that they played forthese Thetans.

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If you if you if you didn't knowthat, all the basic Scientology
books are related to this Zenustory, all of them, which is
kind of crazy as well.
So, and one of those is avolcano.
And the volcano is on the coverof the very first Scientology

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book, yes, Dianetics.
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (20:43):
So this was designed, by the way.
That imagery is intended to makeyou realize that, oh, of course,
even if you don't realize it,you have traumatic memories on
your whole track associated withvolcanoes.
So therefore, when you see theimage of a volcano, you're gonna
go, Oh, volcano, I rememberthat.

SPEAKER_05 (21:02):
This is this 100%.
This is how Hubbard designed allthis.
So the idea is when you see oneof these images, it will trigger
you to go, oh, I remember that,or I have a flashback.

SPEAKER_00 (21:16):
Yes, I need this entrapment in my life.
Let me enter this cult.

SPEAKER_05 (21:19):
Yeah.
So if you look, we shouldprobably get all those books and
just show all the differentthings.
That could be when we do nextweek, we'll do a QA.

SPEAKER_03 (21:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (21:29):
On this video, yeah, or any whatever questions you
have, and we'll show you all thebasics, the Scientology book
covers, and all the images thatthey think.

SPEAKER_00 (21:40):
Yeah, maybe one of these one of these weeks we can
also do a deep dive on the bookHave You Lived Before This Life?

SPEAKER_05 (21:46):
Sure.

SPEAKER_00 (21:47):
That has some cool.

SPEAKER_05 (21:48):
Get your people on it.
Let's get some slides rockedtogether.
Whatever you want.
I don't I don't have to be thethe the engine run of this
train.
You can do whatever you need,the conductor or whatever.
Okay.
So the loyal officers were sentto stop Zenu.
And now this is the part where Idon't understand.

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So, who did the loyal officerswork for?
They worked for the GalacticConfederation, but if Zenu got
rid of all these people, the theway it's couched in Scientology
is he did this, it was a like apower, a rogue power play that
he was doing to amass popularityand votes in the Confederacy.

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And so the loyal officers islike, you just can't be getting
rid of all these people, thesealiens.

SPEAKER_00 (22:35):
Yeah, you can't be able to entrapping all these um
innocent people, even if asegment of them are criminals.
You know, it's just not it's notit's not right.

SPEAKER_05 (22:46):
And again, we don't know the whole story.
They could have been on acruise, like a an Earth cruise,
an intergalactic earth cruise,and this whole thing was just a
bit confusing.

SPEAKER_00 (22:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (22:55):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (22:56):
Or it could have been like, hey, here's your free
cruise, uh, newsflash.
If it sounds and if it had if itseems better than it is, there's
there's something rotten inDenmark.

SPEAKER_05 (23:07):
Anyway, however, I don't know what he never went,
ended up going back to theConfederacy.
He all he never left Earth.
So who knows?
Okay, but either way, the loyalofficers after he gets rid of
all the the aliens and does allthese this volcano excitement,
then they catch him and thenthey put him into a mountain.

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This is another crazy part ofthe story that ties into
Scientology.
They put him in an undergroundvault in a mountain.
Now, most people don't haveunderground vaults.
No, most cults don't have giantunderground vaults all over the
place that are locked up andhave titanium capsules and all
this.

(23:51):
No, and most cults aren'tlocking up an alien one of
those.

SPEAKER_00 (23:54):
Yeah, we we didn't actually get a chance to ask
John Delyn about that piece whenwe were on Mormon Stories.
They have underground bunkers.
They have underground bunkersand vaults and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_05 (24:04):
Okay, well, email him and ask him.
Okay, okay.
We can email and we can talk tohim.
We can call him and say, heyJohn, what's up with uh your
your secret bunkers?
Do you guys have secret bunkersover in Mormonland?
Okay, so they put him and theythey lock up Zenu and they lock
him in an in an underground umjail, basically, and then they

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have the bars are on batterypower.
Okay, fine.
This happened 75 million yearsago.
Yeah, do they have like Duracells or well, I mean they have
energizers?

SPEAKER_00 (24:41):
Again, back to circling back to well, we don't
know what battery tech thatGalactic Confederation had.

SPEAKER_05 (24:48):
It wasn't those generic Amazon.
Maybe it's battery tech.

SPEAKER_00 (24:51):
No Amazon basics, maybe they have battery tech
that we haven't discovered yet.
Yeah, but maybe there was solarpower.

SPEAKER_05 (24:59):
There's no mention of solar power in any of this.

SPEAKER_00 (25:02):
That's true.

SPEAKER_05 (25:02):
Okay, it says batteries.
Hubbard said batteries.
I don't know.
That seems like a long-lastingbattery.
75 million years.

SPEAKER_03 (25:12):
True that.

SPEAKER_05 (25:13):
Okay, so and that's where he's locked up to this
day, according to Scientology.
I happen to know for a factthat's not true, and he got out
long ago.

SPEAKER_00 (25:22):
Okay, now that's why you were so excited about
getting the Xenu as my homeboyfrom Maine.

SPEAKER_05 (25:28):
Zinu is my homeboy.
I own that Xinu as my homeboy.
That's me.

SPEAKER_03 (25:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (25:33):
All the merch, all that, it's from here.
If you find another rogue Zenuas my homeboy shirt floating
around there, that's not that'snot official.
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (25:42):
It's not not sanctioned.

SPEAKER_05 (25:44):
Um, and and Xinu in revolution follows.
Zinu's in in uh imprisoned in acage.
And then it says he was a lockedaway within, I can't read it, in
a mountain where he remainstoday.

SPEAKER_01 (25:58):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (25:59):
Okay, now that's that's basically the story.

SPEAKER_00 (26:03):
Allegedly.

SPEAKER_05 (26:04):
Yeah, from no, it is the story from Allen Hummer.
It's not allegedly, that'sHubbard's version of what
happened.
That's Hubbard's alleged of whathappened.

SPEAKER_00 (26:12):
That's what Hubbard alleges.

SPEAKER_05 (26:14):
Okay, now this is the part where I think this gets
kind of crazy becauseScientology has worked very,
very hard to keep this a secret.
Right.
They don't want anybody to knowthis.

unknown (26:27):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (26:27):
Even though, like we said, all their books kind of
tie into the story.

SPEAKER_03 (26:32):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (26:33):
Battlefield Earth is about this story.
Yeah, it's about the aliens inuh Battlefield Earth are the
psych cyclos, and they're a badalien.
And um Hubbard wrote ascreenplay called Revolt in the
Stars to make to yeah, to make amovie of this story.

(26:54):
Yes, and that's which is kind ofcrazy if he wants to keep it a
secret.
Right.
And why are we doing this amovie about it?

SPEAKER_00 (27:00):
Well, he hadn't figured out figured that out
yet, but that is where I willsay I think it's worth talking
about this.
Uh, not as, you know, um well,the reason why is because many
Scientologists get intoScientology and there's there's
a facade created that when theyget to the upper levels after

(27:22):
paying a lot of money, theneverything's gonna change and it
will all make sense.
And they will stay inScientology because of that
promise to keep going.

SPEAKER_05 (27:35):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (27:36):
So um and well, yeah, but but you're right.

SPEAKER_05 (27:40):
So the way they couch it is that you're gonna
learn the basics of Scientology,and if you stay in and pay up
enough money, then we're gonnatell you some super secret
stuff.

SPEAKER_00 (27:52):
That's right.

SPEAKER_05 (27:52):
That will be life-changing that's gonna
change, altering, it's gonnablow your mind and you're gonna
be a whole new person.

SPEAKER_00 (27:58):
That's right.

SPEAKER_05 (27:59):
Okay, and what happens when they do this,
because we didn't cover kind ofone of the key points, which is
in Scientology, they believethat those souls of those aliens
that were dropped off here onearth and that got programmed,
they were all let go in the endto just roam the earth.

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And they went into humans by thetens, hundreds of thousands into
one human.

SPEAKER_00 (28:31):
Yeah, that part is another huge part.

SPEAKER_05 (28:35):
I understand, but that's what they're but that's
what Hubbard wrote.

SPEAKER_00 (28:38):
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (28:39):
Is that you're all humans, there's basically just
millions and billions of thesealiens everywhere that have been
compacted into the humans onearth.
That's right, but no, every timea new human shows up, they just
swarm it and they infest it.
No, that's what happens.
Every time a new human shows upon earth, these aliens are dying

(29:04):
for somewhere to go and they gointo those humans.

SPEAKER_00 (29:07):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (29:08):
Right?

SPEAKER_00 (29:08):
Yeah, I mean, well, you did all this stuff.

SPEAKER_05 (29:11):
Don't mean what do you what do you mean right?

SPEAKER_00 (29:13):
You know, by that point, you're not asking
questions.
Like I've always said, this isthe most elaborate version of
the Emperor's new clothes, oneof the most elaborate versions
that exists.

SPEAKER_05 (29:25):
Okay, because people You gotta let Oreo in.

SPEAKER_00 (29:28):
Okay, I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_05 (29:28):
She's gonna let Oreo in while I yap here.
Anyway, Oreo is our cat, and hehe kind of likes me.
So if I'm in a room that hecan't get into, he's gonna come
up in here.
He I don't know if he'll jump upon the table or not.
I know Oreo, take it easy.
Okay, anyway, so the aliens gointo the people, and what and

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basically Hubbard on OT levelthree, Hubbard says he you you
learn the story.
And then you learn at the veryend of OT3, you got about a
hundred thousand or more ofthese aliens in you right now.

SPEAKER_00 (30:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (30:08):
Maybe even millions.

SPEAKER_00 (30:09):
Because because there's body thitens, but then
there's clusters, and clustersare compacted to like even like
millions of aliens in onecluster.

SPEAKER_05 (30:21):
And you could have hundreds of thousands of
clusters.

SPEAKER_01 (30:24):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (30:24):
So everybody's got a whole bunch of aliens in them.
Okay.
Now you say, well, how is thatpossible?
We don't know that an alien isnot the size, theoretically, of
an amoeba.

SPEAKER_00 (30:37):
It could be not even a size because it's not size is
part of the exactly.

SPEAKER_05 (30:41):
So it's just an idea.

SPEAKER_00 (30:43):
Right.
It's just an energy.

SPEAKER_05 (30:44):
It's an energy.

SPEAKER_00 (30:45):
An energy that doesn't exist in reality in the
physical universe.

SPEAKER_05 (30:51):
But the thing is, is that these aliens were all over
the map.
Some of them were supercreative, some of them were
criminals, some of them werepoliticians.
Who knows?

SPEAKER_03 (31:01):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (31:02):
And they want to be getting up to that again.
And so they affect yourdecisions and your life.
They control and basicallyinfluence how you act.

SPEAKER_01 (31:13):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (31:14):
Because they and they're all different.
And there's millions andmillions of them.
So who knows what you're goingto get up to?

SPEAKER_00 (31:21):
Right.
And some of them think thatthey're, for example, uh, you
know, uh Abraham Lincoln orJesus Christ, or, you know,
they're being that thatidentity.

SPEAKER_05 (31:34):
Um, Hubbard calls that the valence.
They're in the valence of someother thing or whatever, a
criminal or a murder, orwhatever.

SPEAKER_00 (31:42):
And some of them are in the valence of cancer.

SPEAKER_05 (31:45):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (31:45):
That's how that's how uh Hubbard alleged alleged
that the upper levels.
No, he's still floating around.
This is how Hubbard alleged thatthis technology could cure
cancer.

SPEAKER_05 (32:00):
Yeah.
And also, that is also anotherthing we should say.
Scientologists, there'sScientologists have a high rate
of cancer death.

SPEAKER_03 (32:08):
They do.

SPEAKER_05 (32:09):
And the reason is because they don't believe
they're gonna get rid of thecancer medically, but they could
get rid of it Scientology way bygetting rid of these body
thetans.
Yeah.
If you get rid of all of yourbody thetans, then you won't,
you'll cure cancer.

SPEAKER_00 (32:28):
But also logistically and factually, if a
Scientologist gets sick, theirmain focus is not to go to the
doctor and do a whole biginvestigation.
Their main focus is, oh, I'm apotential trouble source, which
means I'm connected to asuppressive person in my life.
So their focus is on fixing thatversus really digging into,

(32:50):
well, wait a minute, I just lost30 pounds.
What's going on?

SPEAKER_02 (32:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (32:54):
So at least what in the years that we were there.

SPEAKER_02 (32:57):
Sure.

SPEAKER_00 (32:57):
The amount, especially, and it's exacerbated
with staff members and membersof the C organization because
they don't have access to propermedical care.

SPEAKER_05 (33:05):
But also, you don't sleep and you don't eat for
months at a time, and your bodyis always sore and you're always
exhausted and you're alwaystired.
So then when you get cancer andyou get sore, exhausted, and
tired is no different thaneverything else.
You're just more exhausted.

SPEAKER_00 (33:22):
Same with extreme weight loss.
You're in ethics trouble, youlose a lot of weight.

SPEAKER_05 (33:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (33:26):
You have cancer, you lose a lot of weight.
It's like just a another thing.
You could always we could alwaystell who was in trouble because
it'd be like, Oh, yeah, wow,what happened to Billy Bob?
He's like half the guy he usedto be.

SPEAKER_05 (33:37):
And he's got a really nice tan.
I guess digging ditches outsideall day, every day, kick will uh
make you fit and uh and tan.

SPEAKER_03 (33:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (33:46):
Yeah, we would you would definitely you somebody
would disappear for six or ninemonths or whatever.
And then when they'd show backup, you'd be like, Holy moly,
where have you been?

SPEAKER_00 (33:57):
Like that happened with Annie Broker, Tidman Logan.

SPEAKER_05 (34:00):
Happened with Mark Yeager.
He was in the swamp for likethree years.
Yes.
And when he came back, he waslike a totally different looking
dude.

SPEAKER_01 (34:07):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (34:08):
Okay.
So let's get back to the umlet's get back to the
presentation.

SPEAKER_01 (34:12):
Yes, let's do that.

SPEAKER_05 (34:14):
Okay.
So this is so Scientology havebeen trying to keep this secret.

SPEAKER_00 (34:18):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (34:18):
They they they don't want anybody to know about it.

SPEAKER_00 (34:20):
No, because they believe that you have to be
properly prepared and haveadvanced through the state of
clear to be ready to learn aboutthese levels.
And if you don't, then it couldbe very damaging to your health.
And that's where pneumonia comesinto play.

SPEAKER_05 (34:37):
Yeah.
It's also harder to sellsomebody something for$300 or
$400 or$500,000 when they'vealready watched it on South Park
seven years ago.

SPEAKER_04 (34:46):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (34:47):
Okay.
True that.
So this is kind of a crazy thingbecause Scientology, for
decades, this thing was prettysecret.
Yes, it was for the most part,it was pretty secret.

SPEAKER_00 (34:58):
Yeah, at least until what was it, the mid 80s.

SPEAKER_05 (35:01):
In the 1980s, some people that left Scientology
took some materials with them.

SPEAKER_00 (35:06):
Yeah.
Can you take me off double,please?

SPEAKER_05 (35:09):
Sure.
Jeez Louise.
Um, they took they took thesematerials and then they leaked
them.
They started putting them outand sharing them with people and
putting them on the interwebsand all these different things.
And then this is whereScientology really, really
messed up because they tried tosue one of these people for

(35:32):
leaking these materials.

SPEAKER_01 (35:34):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (35:34):
That they said weren't part of their religion.

SPEAKER_00 (35:37):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (35:38):
They said these materials aren't real.
This is all made up.

SPEAKER_00 (35:41):
Yeah, these are these are from the squirrels.

SPEAKER_05 (35:43):
Yeah, these are from squirrels, which is what
Scientology calls people whoalter Scientology technology and
try to spread it withoutproperly being in paid for and
indoctrinated.
Oreo, can you just jam pick himup and just bring him over here?
She's gonna go get this cat.
He's very, very clingy today.

(36:04):
He's like, come on.

SPEAKER_03 (36:06):
There we go.

SPEAKER_05 (36:08):
You want to?
I was gonna say just put him onthe table and then he'll just
he'll be fine.

SPEAKER_03 (36:11):
Oh, I think you want to.

SPEAKER_05 (36:12):
Or let him out.
He's like, I've seen it, I'veseen, I've come, I've done, I'm
out.
Okay, sorry about that, guys.
We've got it's it's like aproper zoo up in this joint.
We got three cats, two dogs,three boys.

SPEAKER_00 (36:26):
It's like a he wanted to make a guest
appearance on the channel,evidently.
He did that and he's like, I'mout.
You're in your talk of Xenu isboring.

SPEAKER_05 (36:36):
Okay, so Scientology sued these folks, got in a big
battle, and then everybody waslike, So, why would you sue
somebody who released somethingthat has nothing to do with your
religion?

SPEAKER_01 (36:49):
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (36:50):
And they basically they doubled down, and then
everybody knew, well, this isreally these.
There was a many years wherepeople like, do they really
believe in this?
And it was like, they would belike, No, those are just weird
things, people are spreading.

SPEAKER_00 (37:04):
And even even Scientologists, like the
majority of Scientologists, Ithink it's fair to say, probably
90% of Scientologists at anygiven time, they hadn't done the
upper levels.

SPEAKER_05 (37:14):
Oh, it's more like 95%.
Right.
There's not a lot ofScientologists.

SPEAKER_00 (37:18):
Like, what do you think?
One in 10 Scientologistsactually know what the upper
levels contain.

SPEAKER_05 (37:24):
Yeah, well, this is a good way to tell you how many
they have because in the 1980sthey were gonna release OT level
eight.
Okay.
And when they weren't to gorelease OT level eight, they had
to have 10,000 Scientologiststhat were on OT level seven in

(37:46):
order to release OT level eight.

SPEAKER_01 (37:50):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (37:50):
That was basically it's like we're not gonna
release this because there's noOT seven, there's not a lot of
OT sevens out there that areeven ready to do OT eight.

SPEAKER_00 (37:57):
Right.
And even that number, if youthink about it, like the Freewin
ship holds a total of 300people.

SPEAKER_05 (38:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (38:04):
Including crew.

SPEAKER_00 (38:05):
So, like, why did they need10,000 people on OT7?
Because it's a hard ship thatcould only hold 150 people to do
OT eight.

SPEAKER_05 (38:16):
Well, how what why only sell 300 OT8 levels when
you can sell 10,000 OTA levels?

SPEAKER_00 (38:22):
Which is where we get back to what what's your
favorite saying aboutScientology is a business.

SPEAKER_05 (38:30):
It's a business masquerading as a cult operating
as a company.

SPEAKER_00 (38:33):
There you go.

SPEAKER_05 (38:34):
No, it's a operating as a cult.
It's a religion masquerading asa company, as a cult that's
operating as a business.

SPEAKER_03 (38:40):
There you go.

SPEAKER_05 (38:41):
Anyway, relo regardless of all that, they
said we're not gonna release OTeight until we have 10,000 OT
sevens.
That was in the 1980s, afterScientology had been around for
30 years.
They only had 10,000 people whohad uh who had ascended to OT

(39:04):
level seven.

SPEAKER_03 (39:05):
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (39:06):
And to this, as far as I know, there's not even
10,000 OT eights as of todaythat have done it.
So those 10,000 OT sevens, theydidn't just all do it.

SPEAKER_00 (39:19):
No, definitely not.

SPEAKER_05 (39:20):
Yeah, maybe just open the door so he can come and
go.
This is just getting ridiculouswith this cat.
He or just bring him upstairsand lock the door.
I'll keep yapping.
Okay, so Scientology tries tokeep this a secret.
They end up suing, there's somelawsuits, there's some they're
raiding people.
This a lot of stuff happened inthe 80s, which really locked in

(39:44):
um that Xenu is 100% part ofScientology's teachings and is
the operating all of theoperating thetan levels, and
we've done a video about this.
I'll I'll put a link in thedescription, but all of the
operating thetan levels dealwith how how these uh aliens

(40:07):
came about, the the Z New story,and then how to get rid of all
the different types of aliensand how they're affecting you.
And so that's what all the O OTlevels are.
So you have um all the way fromOT1 to OT eight, which have been
released as of now.

SPEAKER_01 (40:29):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (40:30):
And now they've only and they and they and I think
they said they're not going torelease.
There's been many differentthey've changed uh David
Miscavige changes the goalpostall the time on what it will
take to release OT9 and 10.
Originally, it was allScientology organizations need
to reach the size of anorganization in England, St.

(40:52):
Hill in East Gridstead, Sussex.
Um they had to achieve the sizeof that organization when L.
Ron Hubbard was running it.
They all had to be that big forOT9 and 10 to come out.
And then David Miscavigeactually scratched that and he
said, no, all Scientologyorganizations need to be an

(41:14):
ideal organization.
So it just wasn't a matter ofhow many people you were you
were getting pushing throughyour Scientology organization.
Yeah.
But it also had to be like oneof these premier, you know,
40,000 square foot, you know,historic buildings that's got
gazillion square feet and yeah,all that nonsense.

(41:36):
And it has the right amount offilm rooms and the right amount
of auditing rooms and the rightamount of course rooms, and it
has to have all these differentthings.
So he's changed that a few timesover the years on what exactly
they have to do.
And he could very possiblychange it again.
Yeah, the problem is that thereis no OT levels nine and 10.
So this is going to be it's he'salways gonna be changing the

(41:58):
goalposts because he's gotnothing to release.
Okay.
Now, Scientology has beenkeeping this whole thing very
secret, and now this is where itgets kind of crazy because South
Park and other people, they'vedone episodes where they tell
the pretty much the entire storythat we just told on their show

(42:19):
or parts of it.
South Park did the pretty muchthe whole thing.

SPEAKER_01 (42:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (42:23):
And they kind of took liberties with the the
little kid coming back and beingL.
Ron Hubbard reincarnated.
All that is just the South Parkpart of it, not the action.

SPEAKER_00 (42:34):
You want me to read this?

SPEAKER_05 (42:35):
Sure.

SPEAKER_00 (42:36):
Trapped in the closet, season nine, episode 12,
November 16th, 2005.
Several religious leadersrecognize Stan as the second
coming of L.
Ron Hubbard, and a whole soapopera unfolds with the help from
a famous RB sensation.
Are you happy?
Free personality test.
And there's a picture of Zenufrom as depicted in the South

(42:57):
Park episode.

SPEAKER_05 (42:58):
Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_00 (42:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (43:00):
Now, this was the very first time that I learned
about Zenu.

SPEAKER_00 (43:04):
Yes, we were in Lee Summit, Missouri, um at at in
our apartment, and you werelike, I'm gonna go watch this.

SPEAKER_05 (43:11):
And I was like, ooh, I which by the way, that can't
be the right date then when itcame out.

SPEAKER_00 (43:16):
Uh yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_05 (43:17):
Because we we did watch it in Lee Summit.
True.
True.

SPEAKER_00 (43:20):
I thought it was earlier, it was definitely in
2005.

SPEAKER_05 (43:23):
Yeah, it was 2005, but I don't think it was
November.
But regardless, that was thefirst time I had heard about it.
And then after that, I thoughtI, oh, there's another part of
this.
If Hell Hubbard said if youlearn about um Xenu and this
whole story before you're ready,that you'll get pneumonia and
die.

SPEAKER_03 (43:42):
Correct.

SPEAKER_05 (43:43):
Okay.
So you in Scientology, you knowthat if you read about what's on
OT3, you'll get pneumonia anddie, but you don't know what's
on it.

SPEAKER_00 (43:52):
Yeah.
And by the way, the premise forhim saying that is because while
he was uncovering well, he wasresearching.
Researching this story, whichhe'd already written earlier,
but that's beside the point.
He got pneumonia and almostdied.

SPEAKER_04 (44:08):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (44:09):
And then and then also later during that time, he
had a massive motorcycleaccident and almost died.

SPEAKER_05 (44:14):
Yeah.
Which also just could have justbeen he was just an old fuddy
duddy that was up to doing dumbstuff.
That's what I am bad shit atall.
Uh he wasn't the most hygienicperson in the world.

SPEAKER_00 (44:26):
For sure.

SPEAKER_05 (44:27):
Anyway, he also had atrocious teeth.
And if you have atrocious teeth,that usually means that you're
doing something wrong, and yourbody's trying to tell you, hey,
you got to do something withthese choppers you get.

SPEAKER_00 (44:41):
Yeah, so much for the way to happiness.
Take care of yourself.
Precept number one, huh?

SPEAKER_05 (44:45):
Brush brush your teeth.

SPEAKER_00 (44:46):
He says, Do as I say, not as I do.

SPEAKER_05 (44:48):
Anyway, so South Park pretty much covered the
entire Zenus story in 2005.
Okay.
Even and also it had been on theinternet a lot before that as
well.
Oh, Claire always you gotta tellher to stop linking to videos.
We can't, once I put it intothis, it won't link to anything
because it's now that's in thisthing.
Oh, good.
Um, Boston Legal, whose God isit anyway?

(45:10):
Season three, episode, does itsay not?

SPEAKER_00 (45:14):
Episode five, October 17th, 2006.
Jeffrey, Claire, and Denise'sjudge murder trial gets
underway, and Alan defends JerryEspenson after firing a lawyer
in the new firm because he's aScientologist.

SPEAKER_05 (45:27):
Yeah.
So they talk about the JamesSpader is the attorney, or he's
the lawyer in one of thesescenes.
And he is basically 75 million.
He's talking about the Zenusstory in the courtroom of this
show, which it was a verypopular show at the time.
Um, so South Park's 2005, BostonLegals 2006.

(45:51):
This is a show called theKaminsky Method.

SPEAKER_00 (45:54):
Yep.
Chapter 16, a Thetan Arrive,season two, episode eight,
October 25th, 2019.
As Norman contemplates retiring,an unexpected visitor has him
considering his spiritual life.
Sandy dislikes changes Mindy ismaking at the studio.

SPEAKER_05 (46:12):
Anyway, in this episode, I think um the kid in
um what's that Bruce Willsmovie?
The Sixth Sense.
I see dead people.

SPEAKER_01 (46:21):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (46:22):
The kid, Joe, I don't remember what the actor's
name is, but he's the actor inthis.
And he is the one who is aScientologist, I'm pretty sure.
Yeah.
And that he's he talks about itin the show.
Anyway, and what else do we got?
The Tomcat Project.

SPEAKER_00 (46:39):
Okay, by Brandon Ogborn, originally published
November 18th, 2015.
A satire that aims to discoverthe truth behind the marriage of
Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes, andthe Church of Scientology based
on actual interviews andimagined scenes.

SPEAKER_05 (46:55):
Now, this is really funny because these people
contacted me.

SPEAKER_00 (46:58):
I remember.
And I sent them a you have asigned copy of this uh poster.

SPEAKER_05 (47:03):
That poster, it says the Tomcat project.
I have one that's signed byeverybody in the play and
Brandon and all these differentpeople.
Um, I should put that up in thestudio or something.
Or we should put it up in here.

SPEAKER_01 (47:15):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (47:15):
Anyway, we gotta find that.

SPEAKER_01 (47:16):
It's I think I know where it is.
Yeah, I know where it is.

SPEAKER_05 (47:19):
We've got to frame that.
We'll put it up.
It's fun.
Anyway, um, I sent them a box ofbooks, I think, at the time.
Then I signed them all foreverybody who participated.
Yep.
Anyway, um, just things arecoming out, just more and more.
Let's see, is there anythingelse in here?

SPEAKER_00 (47:37):
Oh, then there's Revolt in the Stars, never
adapted into film, screenplay byLRH, written in 1977, tells the
space opera story of how Zenukills billions of his subjects
with bombs.
LRH presented this as a truestory in Operating Thetan Level
3, OT3.
It was promoted in Hollywood in1979, but a film was never made.

(48:00):
Revolt in the Stars.
And by the way, look at thatimage.
That is the C organization logo.

SPEAKER_05 (48:07):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that and that's anotherthing that we didn't talk about.
The C org are um a group ofpeople that are descendants from
the loyal officers.
So the Sea Org, the loyal Whichis why the motto is we come
back.

SPEAKER_00 (48:27):
That's right.

SPEAKER_05 (48:27):
The motto is we come back because 75 million years
ago they got they captured Xenu,and all of the Sea Org members
now are either they were loyalofficers 75 million years ago in
a past life.
And so the Galactic the Sea Orghas Galactic Confederacy imagery

(48:51):
in it as part of it, and the wayit's organized and all that is
patterned off of the GalacticConfederacy, loyal officers.

SPEAKER_01 (48:59):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (49:00):
Now, this is another crazy story.
When L.
Ron Hubbard was right before hedied, he had two people that
were taking care of him, Pat andAnnie Broker.
And when he and and the storygoes that Pat Broker is the one
that was working with L.

(49:21):
Ron Hubbard on developing allthe OT levels.
Right.
He was the one actually auditingHubbard, and he was working with
Hubbard to help him with hisresearch to come out and release
these operating Thetan levels.
And when he died, an issue cameout from L.
Ron Hubbard that he had writtenbefore he passed away that

(49:44):
assigned Pat and Annie Broker asloyal officers.

SPEAKER_01 (49:50):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (49:50):
They were literally designated loyal officers.
And that's where Pat became thesuccessor to L.
Ron Hubbard, which lasted abouta day or two before David
Miscavige canceled everythingand said it was a forgery and
Pat is an SP and he did this andhe did that and all this other
stuff.

(50:11):
And then he left, Pat Brokerleft Scientology and they kept
Annie there.

SPEAKER_01 (50:15):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (50:16):
Okay.
So this OT3 stuff, it tieseverything in Scientology
together.

SPEAKER_00 (50:23):
It all along and also one of the purposes, not
the primary purpose, but one ofthe purposes of the C
organization is to protect theupper levels of Scientology.

SPEAKER_05 (50:34):
That's right.

SPEAKER_00 (50:36):
Which is why the upper levels of Scientology are
only delivered at organizationsthat are C org staffed by
members of the C organization.
That's right.
So in a in a like in the idealorgs, those are called class
five organizations, and they donot deliver the upper levels.

SPEAKER_05 (50:58):
That's right.
You can only get the operatingThetan levels at a C org
installation.

SPEAKER_00 (51:04):
Which is referred to as an advanced organization.

SPEAKER_05 (51:07):
Yes, or in Flag, which is their Clearwater
facility at the um in uh inClearwater, Florida.

SPEAKER_01 (51:13):
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (51:14):
Okay.
So this is the other thing.
Hubbard wrote a screenplay ofone of his science fiction
stories.
And then later on, that just waswhat was Scientology was.
It's that's kind of like itdidn't subtle much.
He couldn't get a movie made outof it.
So he just incorporated it intoScientology.

SPEAKER_00 (51:37):
It's like it's like our kids used to say, I know an
idea.
They wouldn't make a movie outof it, but hey, I know a way to
make money off of this page.

SPEAKER_05 (51:45):
Yeah, he's made more, way more money on having
it in Scientology than if it wasa movie.
Because also, let's just befair.
If he made a movie of this inthe late 1970s, it would have
sucked all kinds of eggs.
It would have just been bad.
Holy moly, it would have beenhorrible.

SPEAKER_00 (52:05):
Oh dear.

SPEAKER_05 (52:06):
Okay, and then there's just other stuff.
Um, The Simpsons uh did anepisode.

SPEAKER_00 (52:12):
The joy of yeah, The Simpsons, the Joy of Sect,
confirmed to be heavilyinfluenced by Scientology,
Trillion Year Contract, theleader based on LRH.
Futurama's The Church ofRobotology, confirmed to be a
parody of Scientology,Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt's
Church of Cosmetology, notconfirmed, but heavily

(52:34):
suspected.
Uh Titus performs stunts for TomCruise, head of cosmetology,
married to Shelly, who theyinsist is, quote, definitely
alive, unquote.

SPEAKER_05 (52:45):
Yeah, and then also didn't um um Saturday Night Live
did us get a We Stand Tallvideo.
Yes, it wasn't really Zenu.

SPEAKER_00 (52:55):
No, but SML has done uh I think a couple that are
just hilarious.
But yes, the We Stand Tall onewas absolutely hilarious.

SPEAKER_05 (53:04):
Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 (53:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (53:06):
So the the whole thing that that now Scientology
has been trying to keep thisthing secret, and they still to
this day, what are you doing?
You removed me.
No, we're in a double thing.

SPEAKER_00 (53:18):
Oh, sorry, get out of there.
I got a note notification thatsays you have been removed from
the street.
I was like, wait, what?
You're such a spaz.

unknown (53:28):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (53:28):
Neurotology, Harvey Denton Toby.
Yes, neurotology.

SPEAKER_05 (53:31):
Yes, that was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 (53:32):
Yeah, anything that ends in ology is most probably
well, a lot of things on TV.
Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 (53:40):
That's that's made up, which ology means the study
of, by the way, according to uhI don't remember what it was,
but somebody sent me this thingbasically saying that um the
Greek symbol that Scientologyuses for Thetan, Hubbard says
that means spirit or nirvana oryou mean the the infinity

(54:03):
symbol?
No, the OT, the sim the T withthe zero around it.

SPEAKER_00 (54:06):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (54:07):
That's borrowed from the the Greek this or that.
He says it means life.
In Greek, it actually meansdeath.

SPEAKER_00 (54:15):
Oh, I remember, I remember when someone told you
that.
And you're like, well, yeah, ofcourse.
Everything it's like inopposites.
Yeah.
Reasonable is a bad thing inScientology, it's a good thing
in the real world.
Critical is a bad thing inScientology, it's a good thing
in the real world.

SPEAKER_05 (54:29):
Anyway, Scientology is trying to keep this thing
secret, and everybody's lettingthe secret out.

SPEAKER_01 (54:35):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (54:35):
So it's at the point now where everybody, if you look
up Scientology, you can find theXenus story in about two
minutes.

SPEAKER_03 (54:44):
Of course.

SPEAKER_05 (54:44):
Okay, if you want to.

SPEAKER_03 (54:46):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (54:46):
And Scientologists, and the thing that's happening
with Scientologists is they'rebasically finding out about the
Xenus story, but then they haveto keep it a secret or not tell
anybody that they found outabout the Xenus story.
Because otherwise, if you findabout if you learn about Xinu
before you pay them all themoney to learn about Xinu, then
you got to pay a whole bunch ofmoney to make sure that you're

(55:08):
not messed up and you don't dieof pneumonia now that you heard
about the Xinu story.

SPEAKER_00 (55:12):
Right.
And if you come out from readingthe OT3 materials about Xenu and
everything else, and you say,wait a minute, I don't buy this,
then that instantly means youare what Hubbard refers to as a
bypassed case, which means nowyou're gonna pay for everything
all over again, or you're gonnaget interrogated for what your

(55:33):
crimes are and blah, blah, blah.
It just you're you're in a ratrace by that point.

SPEAKER_05 (55:38):
Yeah.
If you find out about Xenubefore you pay to find out about
Xenu, then they're gonna figureout a way to make you pay
because now you basically youyou got into the chicken coop
and you done stole some eggsthat you didn't you didn't pay
for.

SPEAKER_03 (55:52):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (55:53):
Even though you could just get the entirety of
Scientology's OT levels can bedownloaded on the internet.
Okay.
So Scientology has a really,really big problem with this.
This is like ruining them fordoing Scientology counseling and
Scientology auditing and tryingto sell people these operating
theta levels because you canjust get it for free now.

(56:15):
And so it's one of the reasons Ithink they've switched over to
this donation heavy model wherethey just take in money.
They're just it's Scientology isjust like a wallet vacuum.
They just want to suck as muchmoney out of their the people
that are in Scientology'swallets.
And that's how that's their newstrategy.

SPEAKER_00 (56:32):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (56:32):
Without having to do anything.

SPEAKER_00 (56:34):
Harvey Denton's Toads made a good comment, which
was uh hold on, let me pull.
I'm quite certain that morenon-scientologists know about
Xenu than actual Scientologistsby some huge magnitude.
Yes, completely completely.

SPEAKER_05 (56:49):
Yeah, that's a good point.

SPEAKER_00 (56:50):
It is.

SPEAKER_05 (56:51):
Scientologists are like, I'm gonna find out about
what's on OT level three, andeverybody's like, it's Xenu.
You didn't know that?
Body things.
You got millions of them in you.
There you go.

SPEAKER_00 (57:01):
And what do you think?
Do you think people getting intoScientology these days aren't
Googling what's on the upperlevels?
I mean, come on now.

SPEAKER_05 (57:08):
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Okay, are we ready to do agiveaway?

SPEAKER_00 (57:12):
Yes, we are.

SPEAKER_05 (57:13):
Here we go.
Double clear.
Okay.
So, like we said earlier, ifyou've commented, you're
automatically entered in to wina prize at the end, which is a
Davy doll.
All the giveaways we do now areDavy dolls, except for if you're
a winner of the fake Navy Davyphoto contest, then you can win
a mic or Leah Bobblehead.

SPEAKER_01 (57:35):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (57:36):
Okay, let's do this, folks.
We've got 98 people.
Oh, a hundred people that havecommented.

SPEAKER_00 (57:42):
Nice, and thank you to everyone who joined us for
this fun talk about Zenu today.

SPEAKER_05 (57:47):
Yes, here we go.
And draw.
Here we go.
Everybody, it's going througheverybody.
Hopefully, I don't win.

SPEAKER_00 (57:57):
Hopefully I don't win.

SPEAKER_05 (57:58):
I commented.
Clara, Clara.
Clara.
A mod.
We got a mod.
Like we said, guys, we don'tpick the winners.
Stream yard, it's it's just uh,it's that's how it does.
It's it does what it does.

SPEAKER_00 (58:13):
You've won, I've won, Catherine's won, Clara's
won.
You know, it's just uh it's oddsat this point.
Yeah, it's just odds.

SPEAKER_05 (58:20):
Okay, we should do another one.

SPEAKER_00 (58:22):
Okay, we'll do another one.
Clara can have whatever shewants, she'll email em email me,
but yes, okay, here we go.
Just for sake of audienceengagement here.

SPEAKER_05 (58:31):
It's like when the when the when the mods win.
Oh, I almost won on that one.

SPEAKER_00 (58:35):
Oh, here we go.
Scientology.
There we go.
Congratulations.

SPEAKER_05 (58:41):
Good job.
All right, okay, good.
So email Claire, Claire atBlumforgood.com.

SPEAKER_03 (58:47):
Yes, with your address.

SPEAKER_05 (58:48):
With your address, and she'll just send you a David
doll.

SPEAKER_03 (58:51):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (58:52):
Okay, okay, okay.
We did it, guys.

SPEAKER_00 (58:55):
We did it.

SPEAKER_05 (58:56):
Um, do we want to do any comments here for a few
weeks?

SPEAKER_00 (58:58):
We can do a couple, yeah.
And then the ones we don't getto, we will do next week on our
QA.
And just while I think of it,um, we have a new episode with
Phil Jones and I over at theMichael J.
Render Aftermath FoundationYouTube channel premiering in
what like it'll it'll feed rightin when we're done.

SPEAKER_05 (59:16):
Yeah, you just go on, you just stay on this
channel and you'll get to thatvideo.
Yeah.
Or you can just go over thereand watch it.

SPEAKER_00 (59:22):
Phil and I had a really good conversation
discussing the education grantprogram at the Michael J.
Render Aftermath Foundation anduh some of the successes.
And anyway, so there you go.
You can learn more there.

SPEAKER_04 (59:35):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (59:36):
All right, FYT.
Where did they get all thatglycol?
So many questions.

SPEAKER_05 (59:42):
Yeah.
Zenu had a whole bunch of dittyaliens on that ship, and they
were like collecting glycols.

SPEAKER_00 (59:50):
Hubbard never discussed the um resources on
these planets either, nor did hediscuss the shape, size, or
anything else.
So, yeah, so many questions,like you said.

SPEAKER_05 (59:59):
Yeah, and also.
So, yeah, why freeze and thendefrost via volcanoes right
away?
Why freeze and then defrost?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Because if you're gonna freezethem.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:09):
Well, I thought, oh, and and again, it's been a a
long time since I read it, but Ithought they were frozen for
transportation purposes, thendropped into the volcanoes and
implanted.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:19):
I know, but why do you need to freeze them on the
way?
Just keep it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:22):
Well, how else are you gonna trap them?

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:24):
They're on a ship, a DC eight in the middle of space.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:27):
Well, they're not they're not in the physical
universe.
There's you have to have somehigh technology to trap
spiritual beings.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:35):
Yeah, I don't know.
This is there's a lot of holes.
Don't ask questions, people.
We don't have the answers.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:42):
Oh, we only have some of the answers.
Ellie, they have TVs in thevolcanoes.
Yeah, kind of like that.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:48):
Like no, they're outside, just a giant floating
video.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:52):
That plays that plays implant imagery, like
pictures and so forth.
That's um, yeah, again, not youcan't ask too many questions.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:02):
Yeah, it's it's it's all not science fiction.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:05):
It's science fiction.
What are we what are we gettinginto?
That time that Morag Belmane andRon Lawley dressed as Sea Org
members, C organization memberson mission, and demanded the
upper level materials atCopenhagen org and stole the
upper level materials and leftDenmark.
I know I marked this because Iwas a kid at St.

(01:01:27):
Hill in the Cadet Organization.
When this happened, I was goodfriends with Susie Belmane,
which was Morag's daughter, andthe the Lawly kids were also in
the cadet organization, and theywould their parents.
They stole these materials.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:45):
And then they were declared suppressive people.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:47):
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:48):
Here, let me adjust your camera real quick.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:50):
All right.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:51):
Sorry, guys.
I just we keep Claire's camera.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:55):
It's okay.
It's it's uh troublesome, butI'm trying to get back to um uh
you have to do the commentsbecause I don't know where
you're at.
Sorry.
The Lux Lady finally caughtalive.
I signed up to be a volunteer tohelp people that want to escape.
How is it being black inScientology?
Thank you for signing up tovolunteer.

(01:02:15):
Uh yeah, not not a whole lot ofum very racial diversity, shall
we say, in Scientology?

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:22):
Yeah, it's at the international headquarters,
there was almost 800 peoplethere, and there was like four
black people that worked at thatproperty.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:30):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:31):
Um, so yeah, it's not a lot.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:33):
Nope.
All right.
Um, how he could how he couldsay that when he knew that it
utterly dead data, he just thathad a bad luck.
Okay.
Bad luck.

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:51):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:52):
There you go.
No comment.
Love Foo Kitchen.
I'm in the Pyrenees at themoment, sometimes said to be
where Zenu's mountain prison is.
Yes.
Should I go on a hunt for him?
He is our homeboy after all.
He's not in there.
What about doing one of thosegeocache things?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:07):
He's not in there.
He's not in there.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:09):
He's fine.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:10):
It's all good.
Olga, question.
Why didn't they just unalivethem on their planet?
Would their BTs go into the nextthat's what I'm saying?
Yeah, I know.
Again, a great question, butthere had to be an origin story
of some kind or another.

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:24):
I know, it's just there's a lot of holes.
We know this, folks.
We know this.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:29):
Aren't there always?
Sloanamite.
What were LRH's views on StarTrek and Star Wars?

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:36):
Yeah, you know, um, we talked Mitch talked about
this a little bit.
That he Hubbard, I I don'texactly remember what Mitch was
saying, but he was saying he wasnot a fan of Star Wars.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:49):
But he didn't, he did well, he did he liked it,
but he didn't use it as um anyreferences that we should study
when we were making movies forScientology.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:59):
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:59):
There was a whole bunch of other um films on
there, but Star Wars and StarTrek weren't on there.
So I don't know.
We'd have to talk to that's athat's a you know, that's a
question that needed to beanswered by somebody from the
80s or the 70s.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:13):
Yeah, there you go.
Love and life.
Do a lot of people leave afterdoing OT3 or would more leave
after OTA?
Definitely after OT3 was a hugedrop-off.

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:22):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:22):
Um, and then after OT8, even more.
I think the percentage of peoplethat made it to OTA and then
left was probably greater thanthe percentage of people that
made it to OT3 and then left,but both were high.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:35):
That's right.
Yeah.
There's a very big drop off.
Once you get into the operatingthetain levels, yeah, there's a
lot of people that never returnto Scientology.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:45):
Right.
Because the OT3 was like thatwas after they were already
disillusioned after reaching thestate of clear, they're like,
I'll give it one more chance.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:55):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:56):
And because maybe this is the answer and it will
fix everything.
And then when it didn't, they'relike, I'm out.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:01):
Yeah, I think the main drop-offs are clear, OT3,
and OT8.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:06):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:07):
And OT7.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:08):
And then separate to that, spending any amount of
time in the C organization.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:12):
Well, yeah, that's a surefire way to get GTFO.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:16):
Yeah.
Harvey Denton's Toads question.
Do you think there would be moreor fewer Scientologists if they
were upfront about Xenu?
Way fewer.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:25):
Way fewer.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:26):
Yeah, because if you know what it is, why would you
then spend hundreds of thousandsof dollars to find out what it
is?
Find out what it is.
There's no cheese in the trap,as Jason Bigay said in the in
his video on YouTube.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:39):
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't know.
This is somebody saying DavidMitchell, he has something to do
with Scientology.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:46):
Oh, it's something from chat we missed, I guess.
Yeah.
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:48):
Never heard of him.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:49):
Never heard of him.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:50):
Um, doesn't mean he's not.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:52):
Does LRH have an origin for this information?
Is it just stuff he rememberedin a previous life?
That's what he alleges.
He does not have an origin.
He never gave any sources oforigin from his.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:04):
He said he's been all over the universe in his
lectures and writings, and he'slived millions and millions of
lives on all different planets.
And he would remembered thisfrom the whole track.

unknown (01:06:17):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:18):
He recalled all of this.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:20):
Cool story, bro.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:20):
Or not.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:24):
All right.
Sunrise, joy, learn.
Daily, can you track us yourreaction, Claire?
Tell us your reaction to theXenu story.
Oh, yeah.
Uh yeah, come on.
Yeah, no, I mean, like anybody.
Well, so first of all, I wasdemanded to do the upper levels
by Shelly Miscavige.

(01:06:44):
I was gonna get kicked out of myposition if I didn't get to uh
through OT3 by a certain date.
And so like succeeding was notan option.
In other words, I had I had toget her a compliance report.
Anyhow, setting that aside, bythat point I was so run down.
I was just like, whatever.

(01:07:06):
I'm just gonna do what they tellme to do.
And uh, but yeah, no, not forone moment did I seriously
consider what the materials hadany impact on my life.
I was like, okay, whatever.

SPEAKER_05 (01:07:23):
I like this one from Catherine.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:25):
That's how we knew Hubbard didn't know what he was
talking about.
If he put a man in charge of anadvanced civilization, battle of
the sexes on BFG today.

SPEAKER_05 (01:07:36):
Oh, golly.
Uh okay.
Any last questions?

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:40):
Do we have uh oh we've we've always we we've made
it to an hour and seven.
So I say let's wrap it up andany questions we miss we can
pick up next.

SPEAKER_05 (01:07:48):
I know I was trying to milk it a little bit because
the other thing's gonna start at2 15.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:53):
Oh, sure.
Okay, why not?

SPEAKER_05 (01:07:54):
And we're and it's not gonna be the end of the
world if we do a few morequestions.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:57):
Yep, Brian, question how do Scientologists view
Hubbard's sci-fi works?
To me, his sci-fi writings andScientology both seem like they
are part of the same body offiction fantasy rather than
separate.

SPEAKER_05 (01:08:10):
Yeah, that's a good point.
It is a good point.
Like a lot of people, thecriticism criticism of
Scientology is like, um, so holdon a second.
A dude named Ron, actually, adude named Lafayette was a
science fiction writer fordecades, yeah, started a

(01:08:33):
religion.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:33):
Yeah, I can see why he didn't go by the name
Lafayette, by the way.

SPEAKER_05 (01:08:37):
And you're in that religion, that's what you
actually believe.
A dude named Ron made up areligion.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:44):
And if you would ask a Scientologist that, I think in
all serious seriousness, most ofthem would say, Oh, well, he
just did that in the early daysto make money to fund his
research.

SPEAKER_05 (01:08:55):
Yeah, that's exactly how they spin it.
That's how we funded hisresearch.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:58):
Yeah, that was critical.
It had nothing to do with theprice of rice in China.
Barbara, oh, I didn't realizeXenu was a bad guy to them.
Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:07):
See, this is one of the reasons why we wanted to do
this video.
Right.
It's because we get a lot ofcomments on videos, and if we
mention Zenu, then someone says,Oh, hail Lord Zenu, and this.
And well, in Scientology, he's abad guy, but in the real world,
the verdict is the jury's stillout.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:24):
As you said, according to them, we're the bad
guys too.
So, you know, hey, you saypotato, I say patata.
Like, we're not signing up to uhsubscribe to their labels.
He killed the dinosaurs.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:38):
We don't know.
We don't, we're not putting,don't we're not making any
accusations against Zenu, myhomeboy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:45):
Lafayette Ronald Hubbard did not do a lot of
tying in this story to you knowuh known earth events.
Yeah, Trevanon.
This guy, Zenu, this Xenu guyneeds Scientology to deal with
the stress governing 76 planets.
Yeah, he needs someself-analysis auditing.
Recall a time when you werehappy.

SPEAKER_04 (01:10:08):
Okay, let's do this one.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:11):
Olga, question Did I miss what happens on Zenu's
planet when they die?
Where did their body thetans go?

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:17):
Well, no, the the zen the the body thetans died on
Earth, uh-huh, and then theywent in to people.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:25):
Yeah, well, the aliens did.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:28):
Not the body thetans didn't die, the their bodies
died, and then they became bodythetans.
See, we don't know.
Yeah, you don't have tospeculate, but they're here on
Earth.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:39):
Yeah, but they didn't have a like a mass burial
when they got to TGM, aka planetEarth.
That's right.
They just that's not part of thestory.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:46):
They just went out into the ether and then they
joined they jammed into bodieswhen they found them.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:51):
But they also didn't see they didn't have space for
their bodies on the DC seven.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:55):
Yeah, but also that we don't ever find out what
happened on these 76 planets.
No, we don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:02):
We don't know.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:02):
There's no that's not part of the story.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:04):
No, so we don't know why they had overpopulation
problems.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:09):
We don't know if that continued.
Yeah, we don't know if theywent, they maybe the
Confederation was.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:14):
Maybe after Hubbard died, they did a second
installment and brought new DCsevens with more body things.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:19):
DC eights, babe.
DC eight.
Okay, come on, let's keep ittogether here.
Let's not lose track of whatwe're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:24):
Come on, it's Sunday.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:26):
Um okay.
Yeah, this is C, this is a greatthis okay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:30):
FYT 54321.
What is the purpose of wings inspace?
Inquiring aerospace engineerswant to want to know.
Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:39):
Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:41):
How maybe they don't have gravity on these 76
planets?

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:45):
The gravity has nothing to do with why you
wouldn't or would need wings inspace.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:50):
Yeah, I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:51):
There's no air in space.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:54):
So there's no up, there's no I love the creativity
of our audience asking suchinformed questions that just
destroy and and create massivegargantuan holes in the the
storyline here.
Uh RLC737, Zimu, as I learnedfrom Mark, was a comic book
character from the early 60s,Lord of the Fifth Dimension, yet

(01:12:16):
more plagiarism.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:18):
Yes, this is a great point.
We didn't even talk about this.
Marvel came out with a comicbook, and in the comic book,
he's called Zimu.
And Hubbard says in the writing,it could be Zimu or Zenu, which
is a weird thing to say aboutsomebody's name.

(01:12:39):
It could be Mark or it could beSmark.
Or it's like, why would yourname be two different names
spelled differently?
Yeah, isn't it just one way thatyou spell it?

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:48):
Of course.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:49):
But there was a Marvel comic book, and that
being, he was an intergalacticoverlord and he had psychic
powers.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:58):
Yeah, maybe Zenu or Zemo is like Mark with a C
versus Mark with a K.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:03):
Okay.
But I spell it with a C.
I know.
So it's a with a C.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:08):
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:08):
It's not with a K or with a C.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:10):
Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:10):
That's how Hubbard explained it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:12):
Yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:13):
He's just a funny duddy who doesn't know what he's
talking about.
Yeah.
But yes.
Um, Hubbard basicallyplagiarized the entire body of
works that he wrote onScientology.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:24):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:25):
What are you laughing about?
You gotta pull it up if you getexcited about the project.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:29):
Oh, I was just laughing at here, I'll pull it
up here.
Linda, smart from now on.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:38):
Mark or Mark.
Yeah, somebody else did saythat, marker mark.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:41):
Okay, guys.
I hope you had fun here learningabout Xenu today and
Scientology's nonsense.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:47):
Yeah, thanks for hanging out with us and learning
more about this origin story.
Science fiction.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:53):
Yeah.
Uh yeah.
We gave away David dolls.
We're gonna lead to thefoundation feed.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:58):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:59):
We had it, we learned about Xinu.
We learned about Scientology.
We learned about Hubbardstealing dumb science fiction
ideas from Marvel.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:06):
Yep.
There you go.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:07):
Wouldn't that be amazing if Marvel, if Zimu came
back and he was like in one ofthe the, what do you they call
that?
The this the what do they callit?
The Marvel cinema universe orwhatever they call it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:20):
Oh, I don't remember.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:21):
It's a thing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:22):
I know it is.
I know what you're talkingabout, but uh yeah, it's
skipping my mind right at themoment.
But uh Trevanon says, pleasedon't insult science fiction.
Fair enough.
There is some very good sciencefiction out there.
I agree with you.
Hubbard's is not in thatcategory.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:38):
We'll see you next time, guys.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:40):
Bye.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:40):
Till next time.
Bye.
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