Secrets Under The Desert: Scientology’s Vaults Explained - Scientology Secrets #19 (Q&A)

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A church that prepares for the end of the world tells you everything about its present. We dig into Scientology’s underground vaults built by the Church of Spiritual Technology—why they exist, how the etched steel archives are made, and the strange logic behind symbols carved into remote landscapes. The story gets less mystical and more material when you ask a simple question: who gets in, how, and what exactly is being protected?

We also open the blinds on Int Base and the Hole, where pressure breeds cruelty and survival games replace ethics. Would Shelly Miscavige have steered the ship differently? Maybe on violence, not on doctrine. Disconnection, high-pressure money tactics, and family splits precede any one leader. And here’s the number that matters: by 2005, Scientology held roughly a billion dollars in pre-paid services not delivered. That’s a massive liability, which helps explain the pivot to pure donations and trophies with no obligation attached. If every paying member asked for the services they already bought, income could collapse for decades.

Expect specifics, not slogans. We talk about where the plates are actually manufactured now, who supplies the titanium capsules, why transcripts of leadership meetings are scrubbed clean of expletives, and how event attendance shrinks while rosters inflate with names from the 1970s. We also speak directly to staff under pressure to join the Sea Org: you can walk away, and there’s help when you do.

It’s not all grim. Our community’s “Fake Navy Davy” photo contest uses humor to puncture the aura—placing the doll in capitols, burger joints, and make-believe cells—because laughter is a pressure valve and an invitation to look closer. We close with updates from the Michael J. Rinder Aftermath Foundation, including real rescues and the steady work of helping people rebuild a life.

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SPEAKER_03 (00:26):
Hey, everybody.
Welcome to another episode ofBlown for Good, Scientology
Expos Exposed.
My words are all jumbled today.
I'm Mark Headley.
I'm joined today by my lovelywife Claire.

SPEAKER_01 (00:39):
Hey, hey, hey.
Thanks for joining us this fineSunday.

SPEAKER_03 (00:43):
Yes.
We uh we had to start a littlelate.
We're sorry for the Europeanguys.
We had to start a little latebecause the uh Broncos played
late today and uh they won.

SPEAKER_01 (00:53):
So well, they didn't play late, it just ran late.
And and they really needed ourbackup and support as dedicated
audience watchers from ourliving room.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03):
They did.
Um, as we normally do, we'rejust gonna take uh a few minutes
to uh acknowledge all the peoplethat are coming here from all
around the world.
And uh we do recognize that wemight have lost a few European
guys because it's I think it'safter midnight.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19):
Our dear Netherlands folks might not be in chat
today.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22):
They'll catch it up.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23):
Our bad, our bad.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25):
Okay, let's uh let's do that here.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28):
All right, Allie, hi all from England.
Awesome.
Angel Cat, good morning fromSunland, California, Los
Angeles.
Too early.
Didn't we have a time change?
Yes, we did have a time change.

SPEAKER_02 (01:39):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (01:40):
Deborah, good afternoon from the Dells in
Wisconsin, getting ready to sewwhile listening.
Nice.

SPEAKER_03 (01:47):
I think I need to adjust your camera a little bit.
You keep reading.

SPEAKER_01 (01:50):
Oh, okay.
All right, Clara eating spicyteokee and getting hype from
Washington State.
Ooh, I'm moving.
There we go.
Sorry for that, folks.
We're good.

SPEAKER_03 (02:06):
That's we had to adjust the cameras so that my
hands, I'm reaching them out.
See, I gotta reach really far toget in Claire's frame there.

SPEAKER_01 (02:14):
Yep, no more marks hands in my face for you folk.

SPEAKER_03 (02:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (02:18):
There we go.
Paula, oh no, Paul Vargason,464.
Good evening from a ratherchilly Agadir Desert Night.
Okay.
Catherine Olson, WillametteValley.
Katie D, hello from Galway,Ireland.
New nearly bedtime here.
There you go.

SPEAKER_03 (02:37):
Yeah, it's late.

SPEAKER_01 (02:39):
Uh Angel Cat, I'm in Sunland, California, not too far
from Burbank to the south and LaCanyada to the east.
Yes, very familiar with it.
My family lived in La Crescenta,California for a long time.
Magda, hi all from Washington.
Sherry, hello from Moorhead,Minnesota.
Todd Johnson, hi all from asunny Samamish, Washington.

(03:01):
Nice.
What?
C74.
Hello from Fort Collins,Colorado.
Nice.
Betsy Sue, greetings fromCameron, North Carolina.
Brian, hi from the sunnyWillamette Valley.
Oh, Catherine's neighbor.
Jamie Perks checking in fromsunny southern Utah.
Nice.
List one rock slammer.

(03:22):
Hello from Clearwater, Florida.
Let's see.
Hello from Virginia.
I'm a never in who feels verystrongly about the fight against
Scientology.
Nice.
Same here.
Hello from Ontario, can Canada.
Tracy, howdy from Wyoming.
Slipshot, hello from Detroit,listening while door dashing.

(03:43):
Todd, be sure to go to Alex'sYouTubes for his protest and
donate to his fundraiser for theAftermath Foundation.
Yes, thank you so much.
Apostate Alex.
All of his live streams on theIES protest are fundraisers that
support the Michael J.
Rinder Aftermath Foundation.
We're super grateful.
Mary Kay, hi from Albuquerque.
Poodlebone, hello from New YorkCity.

(04:05):
Necessary trouble in the house.
Hello from Montana.
Happy to see Broncos win.
Now go bills.
Okay.
Becky, good evening fromReading, UK.
Uh made it.
Yes, hello from Idaho.
Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_03 (04:19):
Just a ton of people in here all the time.
All right.

SPEAKER_01 (04:22):
Hello from Tuolemy.

SPEAKER_03 (04:24):
Good job.

SPEAKER_01 (04:26):
Jack Shaw, howdy from Henderson, Nevada.
Nice.
Megan is a cat.
Hi from North Dakota.
In Auticolet, hello from CentralFlorida.
Nice.
Caspi, hello from London.
Awesome.
Dandy, hello from Niagara Falls.
Awesome.

SPEAKER_03 (04:44):
We were just there.
Cale and I were just there a fewminutes ago.

SPEAKER_01 (04:47):
Yeah.
That's uh Phil Jones, neck ofthe woods.
Katie, hello from Scotland.
Terry, hi from Germany.
Nice.
Uh Heather Hayes, hi hey fromWest Virginia.
Awesome.
Rio for Life, hello fromHibbing, Minnesota.
Awesome.

SPEAKER_03 (05:04):
Nice.
Good job, guys.
Good job.
Okay, so for today, we're gonnado, we're trying a new thing
where we'll do a video on thechannel, and then the next week
we'll get into the questions.
Because we're trying to, we wewere shortening the content to
be able to do a QA in the video.
So we just decided be betterjust to do a video.

(05:24):
Everybody can watch it.
If they post comments in there,then we'll cover them in the
next QA that we do.
So here we are.
And um, we've got Clara puttogether a whole little thing
here.

SPEAKER_01 (05:35):
Yes, thank you, Clara.
But I don't need two of me onthe screen.

SPEAKER_03 (05:39):
Well, take it easy there.

SPEAKER_01 (05:41):
There you go.

SPEAKER_03 (05:42):
Um so we covered in last week's video, we covered
the CST bases.

SPEAKER_01 (05:48):
Yes, Church of Spiritual Technology, where they
engrave all of Hubbard'swritings and recordings for the
zombie apocalypse so thatScientology will remain.

SPEAKER_03 (05:59):
Or any uh extinction event.
It doesn't have to be zombies,kind of does, but um and then um
we this is the least likely ofextinction events.

SPEAKER_00 (06:12):
I mean, hey, it's Scientology, so it's science
fiction, right?
It's it's fitting with thetheme.

SPEAKER_03 (06:17):
Okay, we're not gonna argue because zombies are
not science fiction.
Um anyway, they're just fiction.
What they're real life?
No, they're fiction, not sciencefiction.
Okay, I don't know.
Maybe that's you know, we'llsee.
Um but the we also covered theint base because it is a secret
base as well.
And those are uh what thesequestions are based on.

(06:39):
So we're just gonna jam throughthese.

SPEAKER_01 (06:40):
Yep.
All right, SBTV junkie.
Do you know if Bob Ferris isstill at Intbase?
Yes.
Uh to our knowledge, yes, he is.

SPEAKER_03 (06:49):
Yeah, we don't have any indication otherwise.

SPEAKER_01 (06:52):
No.
But Bob Ferris, if you ever hearus talking about this, we'd love
to help you get out.

SPEAKER_03 (06:57):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (06:58):
As would your daughter Liz.
So there you go.

SPEAKER_03 (07:02):
You can read the next one now.

SPEAKER_01 (07:04):
Okay.
Becky, I wonder if Shelly'slodgings are fancy or if she is
just in regular Sea Orgaccommodation now.
I would say definitely regular,if not degraded.

SPEAKER_03 (07:16):
Um well, also in all the pictures that we see, she
wasn't made up, she didn't haveher hair did, nothing.
She was just down and down anddirty Shelly.

SPEAKER_01 (07:24):
No, and one of the biggest things, the biggest
indicators to me that's thataligns with the answer we just
gave is Shelly does not havechildren.
Her children were or her beagleswere like her children.
And we know that when she wasbanished, David Miscavige did
not allow her beagles to go withher.

(07:45):
Yeah.
So there's no question that itwas a banishment, it was
punishment of the ultimate kind,um, particularly in Shelly's
case, given how attached she wasto those beagles.

SPEAKER_03 (07:57):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Next one.

SPEAKER_01 (07:59):
All right.
Harvey Denton's Toads question.
What was Russ Bellon like?
I've heard some horrible storiesabout things he did in the hole.
Was he always like that or washe driven to it by the abuse?

SPEAKER_03 (08:12):
Um, he wasn't uh I didn't find find him
particularly hard to deal withwhen I dealt with him in the
manufacturing area of Golden AirProductions.
We did a lot of work together onsetting up equipment and
manufacturing lines and stufflike that.
But to be fair, the hole wasreally went into overdrive after
we left.

SPEAKER_01 (08:32):
It did.

SPEAKER_03 (08:32):
And that's I mean, it was bad.

SPEAKER_01 (08:34):
It was bad when I was there.
It was it and it had gottensignificantly worse after you
escaped.
But yes, absolutely.
There's no question in my mindthat being in the hole brings
out the worst in people.

SPEAKER_02 (08:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (08:48):
Because because basically, in order to survive,
you you have to, it's a dog eatdog world, let's just say.
Yeah.
Betsy Sue question Did Hubbardhave a doomsday complex to worry
about the underground uhunderground vaults?

SPEAKER_03 (09:05):
Well, he always, from the very early uh 1950s and
1960s, was always like, we don'thave time, Scientology has to
get big as fast as possiblebecause the end of the world is
coming and everyone's gonna thewhole earth is gonna, you know,
be destroyed.

SPEAKER_01 (09:20):
Yeah, in all these millions of years, this is your
first time ever to be able to dosomething about it.

SPEAKER_03 (09:26):
And he was always preaching that there was a time
imperative in place because ofthe bad things that were about
to happen.

SPEAKER_01 (09:34):
Yeah, exactly.
Magda M21819, do all of thesesecret vault bases have a
landing place for Hubbard?

SPEAKER_03 (09:44):
Hmm.
I don't think so.
I don't know why.
I mean, I know they certainlydon't in um rim of the world in
the Twin Peaks vault location.
It's all mountainous terrain.
So you're not gonna be able toland your little Thetan plane uh
up there.

SPEAKER_01 (09:58):
But uh space I wonder what that might look
like, a Thetan plane.
I mean, mind you, one beg itbegs the question like Thetans
don't exist in the physicaluniverse, so they have no
matter, they're not associatedwith matter, energy, space, and
time.
So therefore, why would theyneed a plane?

SPEAKER_03 (10:17):
Well, yeah, the plane's not the thing, but yeah,
I get it.
But I know there's one at theNew Mexico one, the one that I
went to down in Trementilla,Trementina.
Yes, and then I do think there'salso one at the Crescent base in
the middle of the horse trackthere.
There's a uh there's a like ahorse track on that property.

(10:37):
And I think I want to say thesymbol is in the middle of the
horse track.
Um it's just grass mode in the,you know, they planted it in the
pattern of the logo.
Um I don't know about the otherones.
I know one of the other ones didhave one at one time, but I
think they let it grow out.
Or I don't know what the I'venever seen the policy.
I've only heard what it wassupposed to be.
So I don't know what his exactHubbard's exact instructions

(11:00):
were for the uh cigarette, thecool cigarette logo.

SPEAKER_01 (11:03):
Yeah, because when aliens come to Earth, they're
definitely gonna be looking forthe cool cigarette logo.
Yes.
Where they can go to retrievethis infamous technology.

SPEAKER_03 (11:12):
They're gonna be smoking menthols, okay?
They're not gonna be going formarble reds here, folks.

SPEAKER_01 (11:17):
Oh dear.
All right.
Petrina, question how are futuregenerations supposed to get into
the vaults?

SPEAKER_03 (11:25):
That's a good question.

SPEAKER_01 (11:26):
It's a really good question.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (11:28):
See, because they're all locked up, everything's all
locked up.
So if somebody stumbles on them,they're just gonna be like, you
know, push one, two, three, fourto enter the vault.

SPEAKER_01 (11:36):
Maybe they're gonna say hip hip hooray, L.
Ron Hubbard, hip hip hooray, andthat will be the secret
password.

SPEAKER_03 (11:42):
I want to say they're not voice activated at
all.

SPEAKER_01 (11:44):
Yeah, probably not facial recognition activated
either.

SPEAKER_03 (11:48):
Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_01 (11:49):
This is uh this is another one of these solid good
question, right there.

SPEAKER_03 (11:52):
It's another one of these holes that we've poked in
their theory.
Like Are you guys really tryingto save this?
Are you just storing preciousmetals all over the earth in
case you get robbed or in casesomething goes sideways, you've
got stocks of gold in multiplelocations?
I to this day, I think it'sthey're just they're just
hoarding precious metals.

SPEAKER_01 (12:13):
It's a good way to buy gold and have it and have a
a kind of solid cover story asto why you have these
underground vaults that can't beentered enter entered for any
reason.

SPEAKER_03 (12:24):
Well, I think when they when they make it into a
religious artifact, it's not anin I don't know how that counts.
You're a bookkeeper.
Is that an investment?
It's not an account, it's not ait's not a gold investment.
It's a it's an asset.
It's an a it switches over to anasset, which likely could be
valued much higher than just thethe purchase price or the the

(12:46):
sale price of gold because it'sit's it's a rec, it's a gold
record.
So now it's even more valuablethan just gold because it has a
audio imprinted into it as well.
I don't know.
I I I suspect there could besome uh some fudgery, some fudge
funky business going on there,funky fudge factor five right
here.

SPEAKER_01 (13:05):
All right, Sandy says question if Shelly, who
started working for Hubbard whenshe was 11, had taken over
leadership of Scientology, wouldshe have been better, worse, or
the same as David?
That's another good question.

SPEAKER_03 (13:20):
Well, Scientology was dictated pretty much the way
it is by Hubbard.

SPEAKER_01 (13:25):
Yeah, so it's kind of a a toss-up either way, but
Shelly was definitely againstDavid Miscavige being violent
against the city.

SPEAKER_03 (13:35):
Well, yeah, she wasn't against the physical
violence.
She was she was like, we got totake it easy on the physical
violence.
Yeah, but so she did not approveof David Miscavige's abuse of
staff, but they still would havebeen disconnecting families and
get stealing people's money andyou know, charging credit cards
and all these other things.

SPEAKER_01 (13:53):
Yeah, I mean, let's not forget that Shelly's
half-sister was disconnectedfrom Shelly's father while
Shelly was still in good graces.

SPEAKER_03 (14:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (14:03):
And Shelly was well aware of that.

SPEAKER_03 (14:05):
Yeah.
And also, um, I did want to sayScientology, when we left in
2005, we mentioned this on apodcast with um with Tony Ortega
on the down in the underground.
Um, so when we left in 2005,Scientology has a statistic of
the services that that uhmembers of Scientology have paid

(14:28):
for, but they have not yetdelivered to these people.

SPEAKER_00 (14:31):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (14:31):
And in it is it's in a dollar figure.
So the the dollar amount ofservices that have been paid for
versus what's been delivered.
And when we left in 2005, therewas one billion dollars in
advance payments.
So Scientology um owes hundredsof years worth of Scientology
courses and auditing thatthey've not delivered.

SPEAKER_02 (14:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (14:53):
And David Miscavige's worst fear was that
if the if all of the Scientologypublic paying members said, hey,
we just want our services, we'renot buying anything new until we
get everything out, it wouldtake Scientology over a hundred
years to deliver those servicesand they'd have zero income.

SPEAKER_01 (15:11):
And I'm sure that number, by the way, that one
billion is a big piece of whythey reworded the contracts to
make it almost impossible forpeople to get those funds
returned.

SPEAKER_03 (15:22):
Yeah, if they don't do the service and then they
leave, it's just a donation.

unknown (15:26):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (15:26):
Really, at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_01 (15:27):
And if they want to fight, then they're going to be
sent to arbitration and allthat.
It means a lot more to be to menow, as a bookkeeper, seeing
that number on a balance sheetas a liability than it did at
the time that I was in there.

SPEAKER_03 (15:41):
You know, that's a good point.
If they're worth two billiondollars, that's not taking into
account that.

SPEAKER_01 (15:48):
No, it's not.

SPEAKER_03 (15:49):
So they're actually worth less than a billion
because they already they have aat least a billion dollars on
the book as debt.

SPEAKER_01 (15:54):
Yeah, which I'm sure also has a lot to do with why
they've switched over theirbusiness model.

SPEAKER_03 (16:00):
Yeah, now they just want donations for trophies.

SPEAKER_01 (16:02):
Exactly.
Then it's just like then they'relike, buy a trophy and be done
with it, walk away.
We got the million dollars, nostrings attached.

SPEAKER_03 (16:09):
Scientology is basically like a glorified
bowling league, except forthere's no bowling.
You're just getting thetrophies.

SPEAKER_01 (16:15):
Nor is there any winning.

SPEAKER_03 (16:17):
A lot of gutter balls.

SPEAKER_01 (16:18):
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
All right, Todd Johnson, aren'tthe circles with a diamond shape
inside on the left markers forwhere they put the plates,
records, etc.?

SPEAKER_03 (16:29):
Well, yeah, that those CST logos are supposed to
be at each location.
And all of the titanium capsulesand all of the materials, they
all have this logo all over.
The titanium, like the racksthat they have, and these
titanium capsules that go insidethese racks, they all have the
CST logo on those things.

SPEAKER_01 (16:50):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (16:51):
So, yes.

SPEAKER_01 (16:53):
All right, Jerome PG, are the plates made at
Bridge Publications?
I thought I saw them there.
It might be they they I thinkCatherine said that they were
now making things for CST atother locations than CST.
In the years that we were there,they only made those things at
the uh Twin Peaks location.

(17:13):
But yes, I think now they aremaking some of those pieces at
Golden Era Productions andprobably elsewhere too.

SPEAKER_03 (17:22):
Yeah, we did I did a video with Mitch Brisker because
he was one of the last peoplethere that's speaking out that
would talk about these type ofthings.
And uh that should be coming outin the next few weeks.
But um, we he did say thatthey're they're assembling them
at gold.
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (17:37):
Mitch just commented the plates are made at bridge in
East LA.

SPEAKER_03 (17:40):
Yeah, and then they're assembled at gold into
the capsules and packaged andstuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 (17:46):
So Claire is like I went from chat mode to reading
comments mode and I had toswitch back.
Harvey Denton toad Denton'sToads says Angie Blankenship
runs the company that sells thetitanium to CST.
Does she not?
Yes, that's correct.

SPEAKER_03 (18:04):
Yeah, Angie Blankenship was a uh in a Sea
Org executive in the what youwant to call it, the Commodore's
Messenger org International.
And then she was also workingdirectly for David Miscavige.
I don't think she was everreally legitimately in RTC.

SPEAKER_01 (18:18):
She was definitely on the list to be moved into
religious technology center whenI was over the internal staff
recruitment and all that.

SPEAKER_03 (18:26):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (18:27):
But yeah, I don't think she ever did.

SPEAKER_03 (18:29):
Yeah.
But either way, she escaped.
And when she escaped, she got asweetheart deal that she
wouldn't be disconnected fromany of her family.

SPEAKER_01 (18:37):
Well, I don't think she escaped per se.
She got pregnant by a publicScientologist.

SPEAKER_03 (18:43):
And that was uh That's a good way to escape.

SPEAKER_01 (18:45):
Well, yeah, thanks to our lawsuit where that made
it.

SPEAKER_03 (18:49):
She escaped, and then when she escaped, she got a
sweetheart deal that shewouldn't be disconnected from
any of her family.
And her father owned the companythat made all the titanium
capsules and all these thingsfor Church of Spiritual
Technology.
Yes.
And then she, from what I'vebeen told, she then took that
over when he started aging out.

SPEAKER_01 (19:09):
Yep.
Uh, were the LRH writings carvedin titanium by hand or machine?

SPEAKER_03 (19:17):
Well, they're actually the titanium is just
for the capsules that hold allthe records and the stainless
steel plates.
The stainless steel plates areetched with lasers.
You just put a piece ofstainless.
It's actually now um it's a verycommon technology that people
can use.
And when they were making theseback in the 80s, this was like,

(19:37):
you know, you needed a$400,000machine to do what they're
doing.
Now I can go to Micro Center andbuy one of these things and jam
out some plates if I want to.
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (19:47):
So but our 12-year-olds could figure out
how to do that, no problem.

SPEAKER_03 (19:51):
But they have um so the the plates are stainless
steel and they are laser etchedfor the for the for the written
uh word of L.
Ron Hubbard for like hisbulletins and policy letters and
whatever muckety muck, thebooks, the Scientology books,
and all that good stuff.

SPEAKER_01 (20:10):
Mark and Claire, have you seen Dan Walk's LA's
music video of fake Navy Davygoing clear?

SPEAKER_03 (20:17):
I have not seen it.

SPEAKER_01 (20:18):
I have not seen it either.
We'll have to check it out.

SPEAKER_03 (20:21):
You know, to be fair, I'm not really on social
media that much at all.
No.
Besides being on YouTube, Idon't go on to Facebook or
Instagram.

SPEAKER_01 (20:32):
I'm not really looking at any I'm fun fact,
Mark claims to be antisocialwhen it comes to such things.

SPEAKER_03 (20:38):
Yes.
I just I just don't have enoughtime in the day to consume a
bunch of nonsense.
So I'm just trying to cut itdown.
I do watch YouTube videos onYouTube.

SPEAKER_01 (20:49):
Yeah, mainly he's talking like fixing cars and
people building Tesla videos,people building homesteads,
building homesteads in likeItaly and France.
Like, you know, we're talkingmind-numbing wind down after a
very full day of work typevideos, but also it doesn't
matter if I miss five or tenminutes of that video.

SPEAKER_03 (21:10):
It's not a major plot device that I'm gonna be
like, wait a minute, wait aminute, where'd that driveway
come from?

SPEAKER_01 (21:15):
I know even this morning, like I looked at my
watch, I'm like, oh, it's 11.
The Broncos game started.
I'm like, honey, can we put theBroncos game on?
Can we stop watching thesepeople build a house in France,
please?

SPEAKER_03 (21:26):
It's uh it's it's in the Dordogne, right by the
Dordogna River where we went.

SPEAKER_01 (21:31):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (21:31):
In uh La Roque Jacques.

SPEAKER_01 (21:33):
La Roque Gajac.

SPEAKER_03 (21:35):
Okay, keep going.

SPEAKER_01 (21:37):
All right.
Uh when we lived in Crestlineand then running springs, we
knew there were only five to sixdeputies assigned for the
mountain.
Is that why Scientology pickedthat location?
It's not, I don't think so.
I don't think that's why theypicked the location, but that
statistic that the that five tosix deputies is indicative of

(21:59):
how remote that location is, andthat's why they picked the
location.

SPEAKER_03 (22:02):
Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (22:04):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (22:04):
Okay, cool.
We jammed through it.
That was it.
That was all the questions fromlast week.

SPEAKER_01 (22:08):
Nice.

SPEAKER_03 (22:09):
Um, I thought what we could do is we could um, if
anybody had any questions forthis week, we could put those
up.
What do you like better?
Do you like this one or do youlike this one?

SPEAKER_01 (22:21):
I like that one better.
You like that one?
That's just me.

SPEAKER_03 (22:23):
Okay, I don't know how the shorts people like.
I'm not a fan of seeing my zoomin on all my on all your face in
Heimer Smiths?

SPEAKER_01 (22:31):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (22:32):
Okay, here's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 (22:33):
Okay.
Uh oh, hold on, let me get backthere.
Okay.
L E Y 67 question.
What does David M look like now?

SPEAKER_03 (22:44):
He looks like an older David M.
He he also, to be fair though,you know what I do like this one
actually.
If we go here like this.
No, no, no, seriously.

SPEAKER_01 (22:53):
Come on.

SPEAKER_03 (22:54):
No, we go like that.

SPEAKER_01 (22:55):
Okay, there we go.

SPEAKER_03 (22:56):
Um, because then I can switch between you and me.
Um, because that gives me achance to drink and do other
kinds of stuff over here.
Fiji, though.
Water.
Okay.
Yeah, there we go.
Um he looks like um he looksvery plasticky in most of the
recent pictures we've seen.
Yes, yeah.
And he and also, if you don'tknow this, if you're a

(23:17):
Scientologist and you thinkDavid Miscavige is some kind of
superhero kind of guy, he's not.
He's small.
Um, he's very, very petite, buthe also has really bad um
asthma.

SPEAKER_01 (23:29):
So he also has um what's it called?

SPEAKER_03 (23:32):
eczema kind of skin condition where he he bleeds
very, very easily.
Like whenever he would, we wouldbe in a meeting with him and
he'd have a big stack offolders, like manila file
folders, legal size, and hewould throw them at us um in the
middle of the meeting.
He would often cut his fingersand get cuts from just throwing
things at us.

SPEAKER_01 (23:51):
Yeah.
David Miscavige is a very small,angry and yes, that's what he
looks like.

SPEAKER_03 (23:58):
He looks small and angry.
Good.
There you go.
Yes, Claire summed it upperfectly.

SPEAKER_01 (24:02):
With definitely excessive, you know, additions
on in the hair department.

SPEAKER_03 (24:08):
Yeah, there's a lot of ancient.

SPEAKER_01 (24:10):
Compare his his pictures to uh Ron Miscavige Sr.
Yes, and Ronnie Ronnie, and youcan clearly see that whatever's
going on there did not come fromhis genes.

SPEAKER_03 (24:23):
It wasn't a DNA situation, it was a it was a
facility, it was an outsideintervention situation.
Stuff and hair plugs in hisbrain.

SPEAKER_01 (24:31):
I mean, just call a spade a spade.
It's no no insult, you know,whatever.
You do do what you do.

unknown (24:36):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (24:38):
Question
at the base?

SPEAKER_03 (24:42):
I was, I had my, I think I want to say it was my
17th birthday when I arrived.
I turned 16 in Los Angeles, andthen like a few days later, I
arrived there.
So I was no, I turned 17 when Iwas in Los Angeles getting
clearances to go to the MP base.

SPEAKER_02 (25:00):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (25:01):
Because I had my birthday in between being at
Abel International and being atGolden Era.
I was in this kind of in-betweenbase zone where you get your
clearances to be able to go tothe higher level up.

SPEAKER_01 (25:12):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (25:13):
And that's where I celebrated my 17th birthday.
And then I went there like twoor three days later.

SPEAKER_01 (25:17):
Okay.
So you had just turned 17.
Yeah, that was a lot for thatone answer.
Alex saw Tom Cruise taking offlive in his helicopter this
afternoon.
Oh yes.
He told he told us that.
And he also said he said, HeyTom, why don't you support the
Aftermath Foundation?
And Mark and Claire Hitley sayhello.
Thanks, Alex, for that.

(25:38):
We appreciate it.
Yes, it's been a very busyweekend here between Halloween
with our kids and the Broncosgame, and a lot very, very busy
weekend for the Michael J.
Render Aftermath Foundation.
Oh, question.
Uh, Tracy, was the Wyoming sitesupposed to be a secret base?

SPEAKER_03 (26:00):
Yes, it was.
They had uh planned to build avault in Wyoming, and the town
or the county or the government,local government said, uh-no can
do.
I don't know if it was anenvironmental concern.
I'm not exactly sure why theydenied it, but Scientology had

(26:21):
already bought the property,they'd already moved a ton of
equipment out there, they'dalready, they were, they were
like, we're doing this.
And then somebody said, No, youain't.
Um, so yes, Tracy, good find.

SPEAKER_01 (26:32):
Perhaps it was cult concerns.

SPEAKER_03 (26:34):
I was cons I was considering putting that one in
there, but because it neverended up being a base, I just
left it off the list.
I'm sure there's tons of thingsthey've attempted to do that
they weren't doing, and weweren't gonna add those to
anything.

SPEAKER_01 (26:47):
Yep, for sure.
Comment, Mark, just finishedyour book.
Loved it and love you guys.
First book I've read beginningto end since college.
I'm 40.
Wow, Ryan.

SPEAKER_03 (26:57):
Wow, it's a pretty I'm if you're not a reader,
that's another thing I like totell people.
If you're not a reader, thisbook's not gonna put you out too
much.
It's a very easy read.
And a lot of people just finishit in a day or two because I try
to make, I try to leave, I tryto leave each chapter as a
little bit of a cliffhanger forthe next one.

SPEAKER_01 (27:16):
But to be fair, it was intentionally a little
strong on the lingo because thetarget audience were are were
and are people still inScientology.
So you have to use the lingo togain that acceptance that this
is, you know, the these are ourtrue stories of what happened at
the top levels of Scientology.

(27:38):
Um, and as long as we're talkingabout your book, we should
mention that it is available onAudible Kindle.
If you would like a hard copy,go to our merch store.
Do not buy it on Amazon.

SPEAKER_03 (27:49):
Yeah, Amazon's got a lot of scalpers.
Um, the only thing we get haveon Amazon is the Audible and the
Kindle.

SPEAKER_00 (27:55):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (27:55):
But then um at the Blown for Good site, we have the
paperback signed by both of us.
Yes.
And the hardback.
And which one are we like almostout of the paperback?
Paperback.
Paperback, we have like 30 left,I think.

SPEAKER_00 (28:06):
If that's something like that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (28:08):
Um, but um I was we're thinking about doing like
an end-of-the-year kind ofsum-up or wrap-up or whatever of
the channel and different stuffwe've been working on.
And um, when I was adding up thebook totals today, I think we're
we're over 45,000 copies sold ofLove for Good between Kindle,
Amazon, I mean uh Kindle,Audible, Paperback, and

(28:32):
Hardback.

SPEAKER_00 (28:32):
Nice.

SPEAKER_03 (28:33):
We have four four formats.

SPEAKER_00 (28:34):
Yep, yeah, we do.

SPEAKER_03 (28:36):
So yeah, we've sold 40 over 45,000.
We'll see what it ends up beingat the end of the year.
But 45,000 is pretty good for abook we just uh you know jammed
out in a weekend.

SPEAKER_01 (28:44):
Yeah, and hey, as long as we're talking about the
end of the year wrap-up, we'llobviously talk about all the
things that we've done thisyear, different shows we've
appeared on.
Oh, that's a good idea too.
But if there's something you'dlike us to cover in that
end-of-year wrap-up, put it inthe comments and we'll Clara and
we will plan accordingly.

(29:05):
All right, T Walters 8.
You guys are the best and lovethe book.
May this be the year miscavagegets his come up at.
Yes, exactly.
Not it was not a good weekendfor Miscavage, let me tell you.
So there you go.
All right.
Do you know the average ormedian age of Sea Org members?
My guess is that they are agingout, so over 40.

(29:28):
Um, so there's a lot of oldones.
Though I do know that they arestill bringing in younger people
at staff level to then bringexisting staff into the C
organization.

SPEAKER_03 (29:41):
Yeah, that's a good point.
We I wanted to bring this up.
If you are watching this andyou're a Scientology staff
member, which is somebody thatworks in one of their
organizations that signed twoand a half or five year
contracts, these people arebeing heavily, heavily pressed.
Pressure to join the Corganization.

SPEAKER_02 (30:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (30:02):
And um don't do it.
You don't need to join the Corganization if you're on a
contract and you don't even haveto be fair, you don't even have
to finish your contract.
You could just say, I don't wantto work here anymore and leave.
And they'll say, Oh, you owe usmoney for the$250 course you've
done or the this or that.
Who cares?
Just you can get out of therewithout any legal consequences.

(30:26):
They can't garnish your wages.
There's nothing they can do toyou legally if you leave staff.
Exactly.
Nothing.

SPEAKER_01 (30:33):
Yep.
And if you need help, reach outto the Michael J.
Render Aftermath Foundation andwe will help.
That's we've been doing.
So Todd Johnson.
So instead of invading Area 51,we need to organize an invading
Scientology vaults.

SPEAKER_03 (30:48):
We don't need to invade them.
They're in the middle ofnowhere.
Um I would say if there is umthere is some sort of extinction
event, remember where theseplaces are because there's a ton
of gold in these places.
Okay, guys.
Like it's a and there's if therewere two people there before the

(31:08):
extinction event.
So worst case scenario, there'stwo people there when you get
there.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (31:15):
Oh dear.
All right.
M.
Brisker, Mitch in the house.
The closer one is to the centerof hell, the more corrupt they
become.
That's what I observed.
Good people becoming corrupted,flawed people becoming more
evil.

SPEAKER_02 (31:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (31:27):
Yes, 100%.
Absolutely agree with that.
It's a sad, sad but truequestion.
If we buy all the Davy dolls,will Claire release her book?
Ah, that's a great idea.

SPEAKER_03 (31:39):
I hope we sold.
I hope we get your book comesout before we're done with all
the Davy dolls.
We've got a lot of Davy dolls.
I have a warehouse that haspallet shelves.
And I want to say there's twopalette shelves that are stacked
about six feet high.

SPEAKER_01 (31:55):
Yeah, I mean they they take up a significant
amount of space.
We've probably sold about halfof what we originally ordered.

SPEAKER_03 (32:02):
Yeah, we still got a lot to go, guys.
We Davy dolls.

SPEAKER_01 (32:05):
Yeah, but we have a lot to go.
Um, but yes, I'm I thank you foreverybody's patience.
I do have three kids.
I have a husband.
I have three jobs, and on top ofthat, I volunteer as board
president of the Michael J.
Render Aftermath Foundation,which consumed that job alone
consumed at least 15 hoursbreaking someone out recently.

(32:28):
Um this week.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (32:30):
In the last few days.

SPEAKER_01 (32:31):
In the last few days.
So um Claire over here.

SPEAKER_03 (32:35):
Welcome to Jamaica mom.

SPEAKER_01 (32:37):
Stop it.
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 (32:38):
It's just 14 jobs, right?

SPEAKER_01 (32:40):
So I appreciate the patience.
It is coming along.
Most of it is well, I'd say I'm70% done.
Mitch read one of my uh draftchapters, by the way.
I'm super grateful for that.
And and a few other people havetoo, but anyway, it's getting
there.

SPEAKER_03 (32:57):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (33:00):
Oh okay.

SPEAKER_03 (33:01):
Um, I was deleting comments while you were
deleting.

SPEAKER_01 (33:06):
Oh, okay.
Here we go.
Question Is anything specific toDavid Miscavige stored in the
vaults, or is it only Hubbardmaterials?

SPEAKER_03 (33:14):
It's only Hubbard.

SPEAKER_01 (33:15):
It is.

SPEAKER_03 (33:16):
It's if if David Miscavige etched one of his
things, I think the Seorg peoplewould be like, Whoa.

SPEAKER_01 (33:23):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (33:23):
Dude, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 (33:26):
Yeah, I mean, there's gotta be some He hasn't
actually write anything.
He doesn't actually Well, he hewrites his dispatches and I
know, but they're not gonnacatch those.
Conversations get etched.
Gary We see.
Oh no, all of his conversationsget typed with all the um the
cuss words removed.
They don't translate, they don'ttranscribe the um many

(33:50):
expletives, shall we say?

SPEAKER_03 (33:52):
Yeah, when we had our lawsuit, they had some
meetings or they had dispatchesor something.
And also in some of thedocuments, some of the OSA spy
files, the the there'stranscriptions of the meetings.

SPEAKER_02 (34:05):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (34:06):
And I'm like, I was at that meeting, and there's no
way that's what he said.
They totally, it's like um DavidMiscavige's original words are
triple X, and then when you seeit written on the page, it's
it's PG 13.
It's like TV TV 13.

SPEAKER_01 (34:24):
And I I know why that is because yeah, because
when I was in religioustechnology center, in when
you're in the C organization,they have a thing called all
hands, which is when there's abacklog, you get all of the
hands to get it all caught up.
So I had I was part of all handsto catch up on the
transcriptions of DavidMiscavige's meetings.

(34:46):
And part of the training on thatwas if he swears or if he says
anything inappropriate, you justdon't transcribe that part.

SPEAKER_03 (34:53):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, good.
Here's another one.

SPEAKER_01 (34:56):
All right.
Question Even if the IES eventwas late this year, shouldn't
Scientologists in good standingkeep those weekends clear
anyway?
Or is something else going on toexplain low attendance?
The simple answer to that isScientology is shrinking.

SPEAKER_03 (35:12):
Yeah.
If you if you think about um thenumber of people that have been
leaving Scientology, yes, andthere's always been a true
statement since Scientology veryvery first started.
There's always moreex-scientologists as there are
current Scientologists.

SPEAKER_02 (35:31):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (35:32):
So the number of ex-scientologists is always
growing.
And the number of Scientologiststhat are still in and paying,
there's that's another thing.
There's a lot of Scientologiststhat Scientology are counting as
you're a Scientologist.

SPEAKER_00 (35:46):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (35:47):
And those people haven't been to a Scientology
organization in 40 years.
So Scientology includes you area Scientologist.
If you bought a book in 1973,you're still on the list as a
Scientologist.
It doesn't matter if you've leftor spoken out or died.
None of those things affect thecumulative number that they've

(36:08):
got.

SPEAKER_01 (36:09):
No, I mean, proof of that is we were after we were
declared suppressive people,Mark was called and asked to go
and help with the Inglewood orgrenovations.

SPEAKER_03 (36:18):
That's right.
And we've also gotten promobefore too.
We've been sent mail from themat an address we never had
because we were in the C org.
I think we got one after threemoves.
Yes, we got a piece of promotionfrom them.
And I was like, Are you seriousright now?
Yeah, you guys have us on yourlist.

SPEAKER_01 (36:38):
Yeah.
And and I can't help but rem bereminded of so the first
apartment we ever got, whichthanks to your dad who co-signed
for us because we had no credit,we were able to get our own
apartment.
And ironically, the peopleacross the way from us had
Narcanon promo outside theirdoor.

(36:59):
And we were like, wait, what?

SPEAKER_03 (37:01):
Yeah, like a week after we moved in.
It's very easy to spotScientology junk mail.

SPEAKER_01 (37:07):
And and in uh Missouri, that promo stands out
like a sore thumb.

SPEAKER_03 (37:12):
Yeah, there's not a lot of Scientology going down in
at least someone.

SPEAKER_01 (37:16):
No.
All right.
Question Unity Church.
Austin, I understand you are notlawyers, but what do you think
may legally take down Church ofScientology or Scientology?
Lots of individual legal winsversus a large win.
I I'm I've always been of thebelief.
I know when we first when in ourearly days, I thought, oh, this

(37:37):
will be it.
I I just think that every voicecounts, every lawsuit counts,
every every action countstowards um educating the general
public and educating lawyers andeducating law enforcement, all
of it matters.

SPEAKER_03 (37:52):
And but but even one big legal case, like the Danny
Masterson thing was a big deal.

SPEAKER_00 (37:58):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (37:58):
If they get two or three more of those type of
things, if the IRS uh takes awaytheir tax exemption, which if
they keep committing crimes andthey keep losing, getting
lawsuits, and they're thesethings don't ever stop.
They can very easily lose theirtax exemption if somebody in the
IRS just says, we're doing it.

(38:20):
It's really they're can theyhave to be able to get a a
little bit of a rogue IRS personwho just says that's enough
because they pretty much keepthese guys pretty well under
their thumb in terms of playingit with the other.

SPEAKER_01 (38:32):
It at least appears that way, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (38:34):
Um, but um, and then just the sheer, you know,
dwindling of members is justpretty soon it's gonna be hard
to get somebody to donate$10million when there's 17 people
with you at the IAS of the.

SPEAKER_01 (38:46):
Yeah.
I mean, when we're helpingpeople escape on the regular and
learning about the deterioratingconditions for staff and um and
learning how much the resourcesto help people get out are
spreading amongst their currentmembers, it's reassuring to know
that, you know, who knows whatthe end game is, but we're just

(39:09):
gonna keep going until you knowthey're not abusing people
anymore, right?

SPEAKER_03 (39:13):
That's right.

SPEAKER_01 (39:14):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (39:14):
10-4.

SPEAKER_01 (39:15):
10-4.
Roger that over and out.

SPEAKER_03 (39:17):
We're gonna do uh we're gonna go on to the next
thing here.
If we have any time, if we haveany time left over, we can do
some other questions, but we'vegot a lot of good things to
cover.

SPEAKER_01 (39:25):
We have a lot of good things to cover, folks.

SPEAKER_03 (39:28):
As you guys know, as you know, we have had a been
having a photo cost contestevery month.
The first month was a little bitof a slow start, but now we're
really jamming it in there.

SPEAKER_00 (39:40):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (39:41):
Um we have the fake navy doll photo contest.
And um what we and why not?

SPEAKER_01 (39:47):
Because it's good to have a little fun while exposing
Scientology abuses.

SPEAKER_03 (39:52):
Yeah, this is no, I mean, I don't think that you can
watch this and not have some ofit be fun and some of it be
joking.
There's no way this is a morbidsubject, Scientology.
Um, but we've got these littleguys.
Some people call them fake NavyDavy, some people call him
Captain Space Navy Davy Freddy,whatever.

(40:13):
There's a million names.
Captain Chucklesworth is one Ilike uh particularly.

SPEAKER_01 (40:17):
Uh the the TGA one was pretty funny.

SPEAKER_03 (40:20):
I think there's another one.

SPEAKER_01 (40:21):
Uh the leprechaun one was pretty funny.

SPEAKER_03 (40:23):
There's a cheeky one, I can't remember.
Damn it, Davy.
Damn it, Davy doll.

SPEAKER_01 (40:27):
Yep, that was a good one.

SPEAKER_03 (40:28):
Um, these are great for a chew toy for your your
animal, cat, dog, iguana.
Wow, who marmot, weasel,hedgehog, whatever you got,
throw it in there with them.
Uh, we like to marinate theseguys on a in a bag of catnip
before we give them to our cats.
Um, but yeah, people have beentaking these all over the world.

(40:51):
Yes, and doing photo shoots withthem.
And we like to see those photos.
We like to see those posted onyour social medias.
Yeah, nearly.

SPEAKER_01 (40:58):
And as and as we promised, uh, we so we did one
for September, and today we'reclosing out October.

SPEAKER_03 (41:06):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (41:06):
So we still have November and December to go.

SPEAKER_03 (41:09):
Okay.
So now I don't know exactly howthis is laid out.
I must admit.

SPEAKER_00 (41:14):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (41:14):
But the way we kind of wanted it was I was gonna
pick one, Claire was gonna pickone, and then we were gonna have
like a fan favorite.

SPEAKER_00 (41:20):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (41:20):
So we're gonna show you a bunch of runners ups too
because we had so many goodones.
Um, I want to say PTS in Texas.
The the the the YouTube uhsubscriber, PTS in Texas,
supplied at least 10 or 15 ofthe ones that are in here.
Even some of the winners, Ithink.

SPEAKER_00 (41:41):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (41:41):
So um, so this is the October results for the fake
Navy Davy photo contest.
All right.
Oh, yeah.
Here we go.
Three winners at the end of eachmonth.
We got fan favorite, Clairefavorite, mark favorite.
And here are the Octobersubmissions.
I like this.
Claire did a good job.
The fan favorite target pragetpractice.

(42:03):
Here, you know what?
I'm gonna make us smaller so itcan be bigger.
There we go.
We they know what we look like,but let's make these photos
amazing.
Um yes, very good.
These are these are just uh, youknow, play darts, folks.
Don't get like we're they're notexciting any violence.
These are children here, andthey're playing with a toy.

SPEAKER_01 (42:23):
Exactly.
Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (42:24):
Jeez Louise.

SPEAKER_01 (42:26):
Lest Osa think otherwise.

SPEAKER_03 (42:28):
Yeah, now this one is this is amazing.
This is like, I don't even knowhow you could get all these
factors into one photo, but uhthis is this is um PTS in Texas
did this one, right?

SPEAKER_01 (42:41):
That's right.

SPEAKER_03 (42:41):
They're at a burger place that's called LRH Burger,
okay?
And they brand LRH into theburger.
Okay.
First of all, never seen that.
Second of all, Davy dollsgetting that burger.
It's amazing.
It's like, come on, match made,and he's got a side of fries.
Come on, and he's is I don'tknow if that's just a water with

(43:04):
a lemon or it could be a couldbe a like a Moscow mule in the
sky.

SPEAKER_01 (43:07):
It could be, it looks like that.
It's got more color.
It's definitely not water.
Yeah, like me a Moscow mule.

SPEAKER_03 (43:14):
Okay, Austin Capitol.
Look at him cowboying it out inthe Capitol.

SPEAKER_01 (43:18):
Boom.

SPEAKER_03 (43:19):
Oh, looks like he had a he there was some sort of
situation.
He lost his hat, he regained it,and then he did a picture on the
Texas steps.
Loving this, loving this, lovingthis.

SPEAKER_01 (43:31):
He did a he did a big old hat dump.

SPEAKER_03 (43:33):
Yeah, this is yeah, yeah.
Hat dump and Davy doll.
Um, these are the kind of photoswe want.
Yes, we love it.
You don't have to be in a infront of a Scientology
organization or a thing.
This is fun too.
So if you're in the middle ofwherever and you want to zip it
down to town, the the countyhall or what are they called,

(43:55):
town hall, or the or the statecapital, state capital or
whatever.

SPEAKER_01 (43:59):
Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 (43:59):
This is how you win.
These is what these are howwinners are made.
Okay.
Um, oh, now and then we've gotsome anonymous.
If people don't know aboutanonymous, Claire and I are are
termed the Mr.
Mr.
and Mrs.
Mrs.
Anonymous by OSA, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (44:15):
By Office of Special Affairs, which we've tried to
tell them on multiple occasionslike, hello, you might need to
work clear the word anonymous.
Yeah, you've known who we aresince the moment we escaped.
We are not anonymous, we havenothing to do with anonymous.
They were it was like 2010,2011, 2012.

(44:37):
They OSA and Scientology wereconvinced that we were the
organizers of Anonymous, so muchso that during our lawsuit, they
actually um during discoverydemanded all these emails that
we had with these people, like alist of like 20 or 30 people who
we had never heard of.

SPEAKER_03 (44:56):
Yeah, they were like, we want all communication
between you and this guy andthis guy and this.
And we were like, Who are thesepeople?
We had no idea who they were.

SPEAKER_02 (45:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (45:06):
Anyway, I respected anonymous's anonymity.
Uh, how do you say that?
Anonymity's anonymity.
Yeah, I didn't care who theywere.

SPEAKER_01 (45:13):
They were doing a anonymous, anonymous, I have
often said, inspired me so muchbecause they had no skin in the
game.
They just saw Scientology asScientology's abusive practices
and stepped up and said, no,enough is enough.
And you know, at the time, thiswas in our early days of just
getting out.
I was like, well, if thesepeople who never had any

(45:35):
involvement are stepping up andspeaking out, then who am I to
be fearful and silent?

SPEAKER_03 (45:40):
Yeah, the Channology, there was the
Anonymous, they made on um alike a separate protest, which
is called or like a thread orforum or whatever group that was
called Channology.
And it was people from one ofthe Chans that were now after
Scientology and they called itChannology.
And I think their main likemessage board that they used was

(46:03):
a website called Why We Protest.
And I posted on there all thetime.
And I for one for a hot second,uh Bloneford Good was
recommended reading forAnonymous.
It was the by it was the pseudobible of Anonymous.
Uh because it would educate themon how the Sea Org worked and

(46:23):
Scientology worked, so it was agood thing.

SPEAKER_01 (46:25):
And and your book does include a significant
glossary of terms.
Yes, it does.
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (46:30):
Anyway, this is Davey with an anonymous.
Love it again, love it.

SPEAKER_01 (46:35):
This Texas clear clear Texas.

SPEAKER_03 (46:38):
Yeah.
So this was taken at aScientology organization, and
somebody there had this licenseplate on their car.
And so they uh took a picturewith that.
Amazing.
This is all this is, I mean,this is great, guys.
Come on, yeah.
If you're watching this video,let's get some thumbs up and
some likes and some commentsbecause this is what I started a

(47:01):
YouTube channel for.

SPEAKER_01 (47:02):
Creativity at its best.

SPEAKER_03 (47:04):
We used to do on Why We Protest, we used to do um
David Miscavige Shoops.

SPEAKER_00 (47:10):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (47:10):
And so people would uh get a picture of David
Miscavige and they'd shoop it upin Photoshop and they make it
funny.
Well, now with AI, I mean, weshould do the sky's alone we
should do a shoop, like uh uhbest shoops as well.
Uh maybe I love me some shoops.
Claire's like more stuff for meto file and process and David

(47:31):
Ron in Dallas.
So obviously he was outside theScientology organization, and
then he moved into theScientology organization.
Yep.
This isn't a Scientology, everysingle Scientology organization
has to have a bust, a bronzebust of L.
Ron Hubbard, and they all do.

(47:51):
I don't know who makes thesethings today.
I don't think they've made anynew ones.
You know what?

SPEAKER_01 (47:55):
I remember seeing these when I was like six years
old and being super fixated onhow creepy this head was.

SPEAKER_02 (48:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (48:04):
The nose, the mouth, just like creepy.
Dianetics Dave.

SPEAKER_03 (48:10):
Now he's here with another uh vehicle that's got
some Scientology uh magnets onthe side of it.
Good one, good one, like it.
Davy takes the OCA.
That is the Oxford capacityanalysis test that Scientology
has that makes it seem like theyhave something to do with
Oxford.

SPEAKER_01 (48:27):
Yeah, not to be confused with Oxford because it
has nothing to do with Oxford.

SPEAKER_03 (48:31):
Hubbard just thought, you know what?
Let's put Oxford in the front ofthis.

SPEAKER_01 (48:34):
Yeah, because why not?

SPEAKER_03 (48:35):
Make it more legitimate.

SPEAKER_01 (48:36):
Let's put church in front of the word Scientology
and make it legitimately achurch.

SPEAKER_03 (48:41):
Exactly.
Dave takes the good, good one,good one.
Okay, then this one, I mean,come on.

SPEAKER_01 (48:48):
Yes, come on.
We're talking I have to say setsand props, folks.
I know this was my favorite,honey, but you you get first
picks.

SPEAKER_03 (48:56):
So yeah, so if you're if you're if you're
listening on the podcast, weactually we have to remember Oh
yeah, we have to describe it forthe for our I was listening to
folks on I know the uh myfavorite podcast currently is
Crime Junkies, and they do thatall the time too.

SPEAKER_01 (49:11):
They're like, oh, so if you're you know not listening
on the app for the podcastfolks, tell us what you're
seeing here.
I'll describe it.
We have a a prison cell with theDavy Elf located inside the
prison cell.
His um cell decorations are aphoto of Elron Hubbard, yes, and
his second cell decoration ishis famous um or favorite photo

(49:36):
of himself, David Miscavige,with his BFF bromance friend Tom
Cruise, and looking in on saidcell is none other than Mike
Render Bobblehead.

SPEAKER_03 (49:48):
He's on the outside looking in.

SPEAKER_01 (49:49):
He's on the outside looking in.

SPEAKER_03 (49:50):
Yes, but on the on the photo with Dave and Tom,
Dave Miscavige and Tom Cruise,it's them all leathered up on
their on their crotch rock.
Which by the way, I've got totell you this.
If you go on to grok, if you'reuh a twit, if you're verified on
Twitter, you get grok for free.
So I use grok because I'm nothad to pay anything for it.

(50:11):
But if you go on to grok and askhim to tell you about David
Miscavige and Tom Cruise ontheir crotch rockets, set it for
unhinged.
And uh, and you will have alaugh.
I guarantee it.
If you ask, in fact, if you askgrok anything about Scientology,
it'll give you a pretty goodanswer.
But if you put it on unhinged,it's particularly entertaining.

(50:33):
Yeah, and you can even tell itno more it once it tells you you
say no more vulgar.
Oh no, no more.
Don't use any there's no don'thold back.
There's no words you can't say.
It will it says it's a computer,so it can get away with some of
this stuff.
Um, anyway, it's very funny.
Thank you for that one.

SPEAKER_01 (50:52):
All right, Mark's favorite, the lockup.

SPEAKER_03 (50:54):
Yes, so that's my pick.
That's a winner.
This person, what do they win?
They win a bobblehead, right?
Yes, you can win a MikeBobblehead or a Leah Bobblehead.

SPEAKER_01 (51:02):
Yes, that's right.
So you know, you know who youare.
Send us your address, and wewill by we, I mean I will get
that shipped off to you.

SPEAKER_03 (51:10):
Yes.
Okay, now we've got DumpsterDave.
Dumpster Dave.
He is in the Scientologydumpster with some of their
promotions or something likethat, which is kind of wild.
Yep.
Okay, and then um, this personwas at the org for a while.

SPEAKER_01 (51:26):
Yeah, on multiple trips that's true.

SPEAKER_03 (51:28):
They could have come back.
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (51:30):
Lunch with a Scientologist.
This is the best.

SPEAKER_03 (51:33):
So there's a Scientologist on the other bench
across from Dayton.

SPEAKER_01 (51:37):
Of course, of course, we've appropriately
edited the this person's faceout.
Yeah, but it's still funny.
But it is still funny.

SPEAKER_03 (51:44):
Yeah, and we're not trying to harass.

SPEAKER_01 (51:46):
No, no, no, in fact, that person should reach out to
the aftermath foundation andwe'll help them get out.

SPEAKER_03 (51:52):
We want to we want to be there and make some fun.
And they go, what's that?
And you go, Oh, that's a Davydoll.
Just look it up on the uhinterwebs, and then boom,
they're in the aftermath.

SPEAKER_01 (51:59):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (51:59):
Okay, what do we got?
Uh Skadoosh.

SPEAKER_01 (52:02):
Mission Impossible featuring Davy.

SPEAKER_03 (52:05):
This is another great one.
This was one of the ones Ithought, oh, I like this one a
lot.
You know how Tom Cruise isalways running and jumping and
driving motorcycles off stuff.
This guy's motorcycledestruction structure budget has
got to be out there.
Yeah, he destroys like sevenmotorcycles a movie.

SPEAKER_00 (52:25):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (52:26):
Um, anyway, in this one, I don't know, I've I
haven't seen any of thesemovies, but it looks like Tom
Cruise is either climbing into aplane or falling out of one, or
there's something going on withthis plane.
And look, Davy doll is hangingon for his line.

SPEAKER_01 (52:39):
It almost looks like Tom is swooping in to save Port
A.
V.

SPEAKER_03 (52:43):
That's true.
He could be, or Davy Doll couldjust be falling through frame,
just from another planesomewhere.
Somebody pushed him out oversomething.

SPEAKER_01 (52:52):
After all, Davy is a potential trouble source.

SPEAKER_03 (52:55):
He is, he has got Davy has got all kinds of
problems.
The only good thing about him isthat he's got velcro hands.
Okay, that seems to be kind ofcool.
I've seen those could probablybe gosh, imagine putting on a
shirt or something like that.
Maybe one of those woolsweaters.
That velcro's gonna snag oneverything.
That's so sorry about that,Davy.
Um, observing staff.

(53:17):
Oh, so now he's at a restaurantnearby.

SPEAKER_01 (53:20):
Yeah, the staff is getting lunch and he's just
there observing, which is issomething Davy Davy Miscavige
would actually do.

SPEAKER_03 (53:27):
Yeah, what look at this guy.

SPEAKER_01 (53:29):
Yeah, look at this guy.

SPEAKER_03 (53:30):
He's off from five minutes early.

SPEAKER_01 (53:31):
Yeah, he left the org two minutes before his
scheduled lunchtime.

SPEAKER_03 (53:36):
How dare he to get a crappy subway?

SPEAKER_01 (53:39):
Yeah, what's up with that?

SPEAKER_00 (53:41):
He's got other fish to fry.

SPEAKER_03 (53:43):
Yes.
Uh BFG ASMR.
Okay.
Uh Dave's a PTS.
This is a good one.

SPEAKER_00 (53:50):
Yep, it's a great one.

SPEAKER_03 (53:51):
You know, Pittsburgh Transport Services.
PTS sounds good to me.
Um, love it, love it, love it.
Um, and then we've got Davy GotCurious.
Is this in London?

SPEAKER_01 (54:05):
Yes, this is the billboard that we did by
Tottenham Court.
Um, I'm a Scientologist.

SPEAKER_03 (54:12):
Nice.
There was one of you, Alex, andMike, right?
Yes.
This is the one we're showingthe one with Mike.

SPEAKER_01 (54:17):
And they were in the exact same location as
previously Scientology had had.

SPEAKER_03 (54:22):
And also the one when Dave that's where Mike
Rinder left Scientology.

SPEAKER_01 (54:27):
He went to that station and GTFO'd.
Yes.
So it was significant on a fewdifferent counts.
Spooky Davy.
That's right.

SPEAKER_03 (54:36):
We do have Halloween, so we've got a little
Davy.
Uh, just it looks like he's onsitting on like some kind of
rocking chair or bench metalchairs type thing.

SPEAKER_01 (54:45):
And he's sitting next to a skeleton who's wearing
a nice plaid shirt with asunflower straw hat.

SPEAKER_03 (54:54):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (54:54):
Yes, there we go.
All right, Davy and the greatpumpkin.
So here we have Davy riding on apumpkin um next to a little
plant.
And what is that little orange?

SPEAKER_03 (55:06):
It's just like a little demon guy.

SPEAKER_01 (55:07):
Little demon guy next to a coffee cup.
Yeah, there you go.
Anyway, it's quite fitting, it'squite demonic looking.

SPEAKER_03 (55:15):
Yeah.
No, wait, wait.
It says, oh, I'm not going tochange that, but it's Clara.
Clara says, I had to wing itwith some of these picture
names.
Sorry, guys.
Yeah, you did amazing, Clara.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 (55:27):
Yeah.
Visiting the Scientology sites.
So here we have Davey in frontof um the Fort Harrison, I think
that is, or right around there.
Either way, no, that's the itmight be the new building across
from the Fort Harrison.

SPEAKER_03 (55:41):
It's in Clearwater, down in their clearwater stuff.

SPEAKER_01 (55:43):
On their main stretch of real estate uh mogul
land.

SPEAKER_03 (55:48):
Oh, yeah.
Oh, somebody said he's riding acrow, too.

SPEAKER_01 (55:52):
Oh.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (55:54):
Oh, he's riding a crow in the oh, so we're back to
the skeleton.
The skeleton one.
I was like, what?

SPEAKER_01 (56:01):
Yeah, there you go.
It's dark.

SPEAKER_03 (56:02):
The crow blended into the background.
Yeah.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (56:06):
All right.
The gift of SP.
So this is SP Danny.
You're such a good SP.
So I told chairman of the boardto personally give you a
bracelet.
And this is coming from apicture of Pat Harney.
Oh, yes.
And uh who is Office of SpecialAffairs for Clearwater.
Thank you, SP Danny, for thisphoto.

SPEAKER_02 (56:26):
Nice.

SPEAKER_01 (56:26):
Um, and Davy is in front of Pat Harney with an SP
shop bracelet.
Uh, the that's a little bag thatthe SP bracelets come in.
There you go, the SP shop.
Perfect.
Yes.
All right, blackout drunk,Claire's favorite.
So this was the reason myfavorite.
Here's Davy, and he's layingBlackout Drunk in front of a

(56:50):
bottle of Sevilla Orange,Tankaray, and Corvo.

SPEAKER_02 (56:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (56:55):
And on his phone, it has um one of the Office of
Special Affairs hate websites,and it has a very dark, gloomy
looking photo of Tom DeVochtwith one of Tom's family members
on a video uh spreading liesabout.

SPEAKER_03 (57:12):
Oh, and that's what Davey's watching.

SPEAKER_01 (57:14):
Yes, that's what he's watching, and that's what
he went blackout drunk in hisfervor over the the glorious
hate sites that Office ofSpecial Affairs has created that
nobody watches.

SPEAKER_03 (57:26):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, good.
Next one.
That and that was your favorite.
That was so that that you to befair.

SPEAKER_01 (57:31):
That was my second choice.

SPEAKER_03 (57:32):
I didn't know which one do they win or not?

SPEAKER_01 (57:35):
You want do they win?
Yes, they win.
Perfect.
They win.

SPEAKER_03 (57:38):
You're a winner.
Um we both picked the same oneas our favorite.

SPEAKER_01 (57:45):
That was the issue.
All right.
SP on Maine.
SP on Maine, and here is DavidMiscavige.
He's being in he's at SP onMaine.

SPEAKER_03 (57:53):
Fake Navy Davy.

SPEAKER_01 (57:54):
Fake Navy Davy.
What did I say?

SPEAKER_03 (57:56):
David Miscavige.

SPEAKER_01 (57:57):
Oh, fake Navy Davies.
My bad.
I mean, you know, kind of gethis face mixed up a little every
once in a while.

SPEAKER_03 (58:04):
So looks so much alike.
Um, this is a store, and it hasa giant sign.
It says SP on Maine, and littleDavy's like, check it out.
And uh he's that's the picture.

SPEAKER_01 (58:17):
Yep, there you go.
Tom's number one fan, fake NavyDavy, is on Hollywood Boulevard
at Tom Cruise's star on theHollywood Walk of Fame.

unknown (58:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (58:32):
Somebody said so.
Davey is obsessed with all Tom'sDeVox and Cruz.

SPEAKER_01 (58:36):
Yeah, you know what?
That's a really good point,Claire.
Yes, right, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (58:42):
Okay, next one.

SPEAKER_01 (58:43):
And Tom Thumb.

SPEAKER_03 (58:44):
Yeah.
Prizes Mike Render or Leah readme bobblehead.
Yeah.
So if you were one of thosewinners, um just shoot me an
email, Claire atblownforgood.com.

SPEAKER_01 (58:55):
Tell me what which one you'd like and your address,
and we'll get that shipped offto you.
And thank you to the many peoplewho participated.
See, every once in a while it'sjust good to have a little bit
of fun, right, honey?

SPEAKER_03 (59:06):
Absolutely.
To submit photos, you can go tothe blownforgood.com forward
slash contact us.
And you can also tag us atblownforgood on X and any of the
other socials.
Um, but if you D DM or send us amessage or tag us, is we'll most
likely see it.
But you can also just send it,go to the website.

(59:26):
Now, I did find out the Blownfor Good Um contact us page, you
can submit an image on there.
Yes, it has some tests that youhave to do.
And even I boofed one of thetests and it aired.
So you've got to make sure youfill in the um the you know the
capture.

SPEAKER_01 (59:42):
I'm a human and yeah, all that stuff.

SPEAKER_03 (59:45):
There's a lot of spam and there's a lot of bots
and there's a lot of nonsense onthe internet.
So you more and more we have tohave that stuff because people
can just auto bomb us with stuffunless it has that.
Yep.
So um, but yeah, do that, sendit to us, and um those will go
into All the ones we get fromnow forward will be part of the
no the early December videowe'll do when we go through all

(01:00:06):
these and give these away andall that happy hoo ah.
Yes.
Now, even though we just did allthat, oh I gotta put us back up
in the big screen here.
Um, even though we did all that,um we're still gonna do a
giveaway today.
Yay! Because Claire loves her agiveaway.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:21):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:21):
So why not?

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:23):
We are gonna do we appreciate our audience and
we're grateful to everyone.
Well, not me again.
There we go.
Okay, awesome.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:30):
I got it under control.
All right, all right, okay, soI'm going to the giveaway tool.
There's 117 entries currently.
Nice.
We're going to draw.
If you've made a comment intoday's video, you automatically
get entered into win.
Each comment, you can do 10comments, you can do one
comment.
It's one entry.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:49):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:49):
So there's 170 entry.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:51):
That's why we use this tool because it's kind of
handy dandy.
And we really like the slow mothat comes up at the end.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:57):
Oh my god, this is the best idea ever.
What uh love it says you shouldmake these into a calendar.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:05):
Oh what do you think?
2026 calendar.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:09):
Yeah, 2026 calendar.
We the good ones, like somereally nice shots.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:13):
Yeah, that's a great idea.
It's not hard to do it.
No, it's not.
Okay, we'll think about thatone.
We'll we'll give we'll put thatinto the thing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:21):
It should be the winners.
It should come, it should comefrom the winners for sure.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:26):
Yeah.
I mean, we had some reallycreative entries this month,
yeah, too.
So to everyone who partisparticipated, if you didn't win,
it's not because we don'tappreciate it.
And um, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:39):
Okay, we're gonna do this now.
That gave you guys I I wasriffing.
Okay, I gave you guys a littlebit of time to jam in a comment
there.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:46):
If you didn't go, we got to do that.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:47):
Went up to 123 people have entered.
So uh here we go.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:52):
124.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:52):
We're doing 124.
Okay.
Oh uh I love it when I win.
If I win on this time, it'll bea problem.
Okay, how do you say that?

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:03):
My luness.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:04):
Miluness.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:05):
Miluness.
Congratulations, you win.
Send me an email, Claire atblownforgood.com, and you will
get a fake navy Davy.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:14):
Yeah, I like look at low food, low food kitchen here.
Get people comments are gonna dothat.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:20):
See Mark's managed to keep his big hands out of
Claire's shot today.
I know Mark came down earlybecause I said, honey, you gotta
get your hands out of my face.
It's really inappropriate.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:30):
No, I didn't come down early.
I moved the camera.
Your camera is now over.
So look how far I can reach out.
And look, look at that.
Nothing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:40):
See, nothing.
We're good.
I done fixed I kept having tohit him like, hey, get out of my
face.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:46):
Yeah, I took proactive.
I was proactive in thesituation.
I took action.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:52):
It wasn't because I kept complaining.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:54):
Well, no, it I fixed it.
I did something in response toit being an issue.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:59):
Good job.
Good job.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:01):
Um, Clara loves the PowerPoint.
Yeah, we love Clara does it.
Clara is doing some great uhgraphics for us on these, and
uh, we very much appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:10):
Yep.
Um and just a reminder today'sshow will redirect right to an
episode, the next episode thatPhil Jones and I did of Myths
versus Fects over at the MichaelJ.
Render Aftermath FoundationYouTube channel.
Please like and subscribe.
Uh, we're really trying to builda subscriber count over there so
that eventually we can hostfoundation fundraiser

(01:03:33):
fundraisers there.
Um, but yes, we have manyamazing things uh happening at
the Michael J.
Render Aftermath Foundation.
Lots of great news.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:41):
Yeah, you know, somebody said Claire looks a
little blurry on her camera.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:46):
I do.
I know I see that now.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:47):
Yeah, and I that's what I've been trying to
resolve.
And it for some reason, you knowwhat?
I bet you if I auto focus it,hold on.
Let's do it.
We'll do it live.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:55):
Oh, lovely.
That's great.
That's just wonderful.
We're gonna do it live, folks.
Oh, she got really blurry.

unknown (01:04:03):
We'll do it live.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:05):
Becky, big brother fan says, hold on, here we go.
Thank you, Claire, Mark, and thewonderful mods.
Yes, of course.
Absolutely.
Thank you for being here.
We appreciate it.
Oh, somebody just said the umfoundation one premiered early.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:20):
It did.
It I already have it going, butyou can still watch it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:22):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:23):
This video will redirect to that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:25):
Perfect.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:26):
So if you didn't see it, you'll see it.
Yeah, and if you already saw it,you'll see it again, or you'll
watch something else.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:31):
Yeah, there you go.
Katherine Olson says, Oh, wait,too beautiful to capture.
Oh, I her Catherine Olson says,Thanks, everyone.
Yes, there we go.
Okay, awesome.
All right, I'll stop pushingbuttons now.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:44):
Yeah, take it easy there, Red Rider.
Um, yeah, no, the video cameout.
Um, I couldn't redirect to itfor some reason.
It wouldn't let me redirect toit no matter what I did.
So once I made it live, it letme redirect to it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:56):
Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:56):
So YouTube was having some funkiness or
something.
I don't know.
Yeah, anyway.
Thank you everybody for comingtoday.
We had a good time.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:03):
We did.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:04):
Um, we're good, we've got uh December's gonna be
a little rough, so we're gonnatry to do a video every week in
November if we can.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:12):
And we have Serge Obolinski coming to visit us for
Thanksgiving.
That's right, which is amazing.
I'm so excited.
He's so excited.
Thanks to your many mile points,we were able to get him a flight
for free.
So that's fan fabulous.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:26):
Yes.
And he's just gonna stay withus.
Yes.
So it's it's that's sort of likeone of a big treat for him for
the year.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:32):
If we go there and oh, and and also to the viewer
who donated um tickets for himfor Serge to go to Magic
Mountain recently, thank you somuch.
I will send you a picture.
Amazing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:44):
Well, didn't they do it?

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:45):
The same viewer also gave us tickets for so that
Serge can go to Elich Gardensone of the days that he's here
in Colorado for Thanksgiving.
So just amazing.
We really appreciate everybodywho supports what we do,
supports our work.
We're grateful for you.
So thank you.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:02):
Yeah, and also Serge is doing better and better every
year.
He's he really is he's he'sreally acclimating well, and
he's part of groups and he'sgoing to classes and he's doing
things.
So we thought we had we had highhopes, and he is doing really
great.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:20):
He is.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:20):
So we were it's amazing.
We were we we didn't know whenthis kind of first started.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:25):
That's a huge undertaking.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:26):
Yeah, yeah.
He's doing amazing.
He got his diploma.
Yep.
He mean if you guys haven't seenthat um story of Serge Obolinski
on our channel.
Um, I'll try to uh put it in theum end screen so it directs to
that.
So if you're watching this onthe replay, it should be in
there.
Um, it's on our channel, it'scalled The Story of Serge
Obolinski.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:46):
Yeah, and speaking of documentaries, we have lots
of new, new, exciting thingscoming soon.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:51):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:51):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:52):
So, but um, if you haven't seen that, you should
watch that.
If you're new to our channel,um, it's one of our favorite
videos that we have.
And um, and we it was it, Imean, it was many years and many
years in the making.
So I found a video of me makingthose um 3D printed hands from
like I think 2013 or something.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:11):
Yeah, no, I know because we we've yeah, anyway,
it's been a a long time.
It's a great video.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:17):
Clara put a link in the comments, so we can I'll pin
that comment too.
I think there's a way I can dothat here.
No, I'll put it.
I I think I put Clara in atimeout by accident.
Oh no, I posted it.
There you go.
Uh sorry, the story of SergeObolinski.
There's a link there, but it'sin the comments.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:31):
Somebody said Deviant Outcast said if you
watch it and haven't seen itbefore, bring tissues.
Yes, agree.
It's amazing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:38):
And everybody that was part of it and that worked
on it, it all worked out reallygreat.
We really love it.
So check that out.
Otherwise, um, I think we'regood, right?

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:49):
Yeah, see you next time.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:50):
Yeah, until next time, guys.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:53):
Bye.

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