Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
S1 (00:00):
Today on Bold steps, Mark Jobe concludes his powerful message
about breaking free from the prison of unforgiveness.
S2 (00:08):
When I forgive someone, I'm not saying you deserve to
be forgiven. I'm not saying you've earned your forgiveness. I'm
simply saying I refuse to live with unforgiveness in my
heart because it's poison to my soul. I'm forgiving you
because I need to walk in cleansing of my soul
before God.
S1 (00:40):
Welcome to Bold Steps with Mark Jobe. Mark is president
of Moody Bible Institute and the senior pastor of New
Life Community Church in Chicago. I'm Wayne Shepherd. We're continuing
our series called Untangled Relationships, and today we reach the
conclusion of Mark's three part message on the trap of unforgiveness.
In the first two segments, Mark explained how unforgiveness works
(01:02):
like a prison that we built for others, but end
up living in ourselves. He showed us how unresolved anger
creates footholds for the enemy in our lives, and why
genuine forgiveness is the only path to freedom. If you
missed either of those messages, I encourage you to visit
Bold Steps org to catch up when you can. Now
let's join Mark Jobe for the powerful conclusion of his
(01:23):
message titled The Trap of Unforgiveness.
S2 (01:28):
In the city of Chicago, we hear about these crazy
acts of violence. And one more time we'll hear on I-55,
someone honked at someone. Someone gave him a dirty look.
And before we know it, someone shot and killed on
the expressway. And we say, wow, traffic is terrible in Chicago.
(01:48):
Can I tell you it has nothing to do with traffic?
This is not about the honk. This is not about
the driving. This is about the guy that at five
years old was physically abused, beaten up and abandoned by
a stepfather, and they haven't processed it. And they're full
(02:09):
of anger and they're full of issues in their life
that they haven't dealt with. And when you when you
tip it, it spills out. If I had an opaque
glass here, you wouldn't be able to tell what's inside
of it. But if someone bumps me, whatever's inside is
going to spill out. If I'm full of anger, rage, brawling, unforgiveness,
(02:33):
then it takes a honk on the expressway and it
spills out. And everything that's directed towards that stepfather that
abused me now becomes the rage against the person that
just honked at me. And people say, I don't know
why I'm like this. I love my girlfriend or I
love my wife and but I explode and I just
call her things. I don't know what's wrong. I know
what's wrong. What's wrong is you haven't dealt with your issues.
(02:56):
What's wrong is you haven't gone to those hard places.
What's wrong is you haven't processed your hurt, you haven't forgiven,
you haven't gone to those places that are causing you
to be an angry person. And until you deal with it,
you may deal with the emotions. And you say, well, pastor,
I know what I'm going to do. I'm just going
to count to ten. When I'm angry. That's good. Ten, nine, eight. Seven, six.
(03:22):
I'm just going to go for a jog. Some of
you are really good shape because you're angry so often
you're going for a jog, or I'm going to just
breathe deeply. And you know what? I'm happy you're doing
that because I don't want people around you to get hurt.
But that will not deal with the core issue. The
pressure cooker will still have pressure unless the flame is
(03:46):
turned off, unless you deal with the root of your hurt,
unless you deal with that unforgiveness, unless you deal with
the pain, unless you confront it and process it before
God and deal with it, it will continue to surface,
it will continue to boil up. So there are some
people that are believers in this auditorium today. And you
(04:08):
come to me, I know because you talk to me
about it and you say, pastor, I don't know what happened.
I was doing so good for three months, and then
I fell, and then I did so good for five months,
and then I fell again. And then I was doing
really good for another four months. And then I fell again.
Let me tell you what's happening. What's happening to a
(04:28):
lot of people is that you do well until you
get angry. And when you get angry, then suddenly all
the old stuff, you you go immediately back to whatever
made you feel good in your old life. That's what
it tells us earlier in this chapter, in Ephesians chapter four,
(04:49):
verse 26 through 27, it says, be angry and do
not sin. Listen. Do not let the sun go down
while you are angry. Do not give the devil a foothold.
When you become angry, you give the devil an opportunity
and a foothold. You're doing really well fighting pornography. But
(05:10):
when you got angry, you wanted something to make you
feel better. And so you. You opened up that old
pornography page that you go to, and you fell. You
called up that old girlfriend and fell sexually. You went
out and over drank. You lit up one more time
that cannabis just to calm your nerves down. And you
(05:31):
were doing so well. You know why? Anger. And so
what the Apostle Paul is telling us is he's telling
us that we have to deal with our anger. We
have to get rid of this bitterness and rage and
brawling and slander. It tells us in Matthew chapter six
(05:52):
verse 14, Jesus was teaching his disciples to pray. And
at the end of the prayer he says, if you
forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly father will
forgive you. But if you refuse to forgive others, your
heavenly father will not forgive you your sins. And what
does this mean? It simply means that when you have
(06:15):
unforgiveness in your heart, you're living in sin and God
cannot release you from what you're continuing to do. You
have to choose to get rid of it so God
can release you from it. So the Apostle Paul is
talking to these believers about walking in victory, and he's
describing to them how they can overcome. And he ends
(06:40):
up this passage with this last exhortation. Which leads me
to my third point. Unforgiveness can only be overcome with
genuine forgiveness. So the Apostle Paul says in verse 32,
be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other
(07:05):
just as in Christ, God forgave you. So the Apostle
Paul really gets to the root of the solution when
he says, hey, you can't grieve the spirit by having
unforgiveness that leads to the fruit of unforgiveness. Until you
(07:26):
get to the point of saying, I gotta release, I
gotta forgive, I gotta let go. It's interesting that he says,
forgiving each other just as in Christ God forgave you.
In other words, that we have to forgive each other
like God forgives us. Now, there's a lot of misunderstanding
(07:47):
around forgiveness, what it means and what it doesn't mean.
Look up at me. I think this is really important.
Forgiveness does not mean excusing what was done to you,
minimizing that? What was done to you? Blame shifting someone
else about it? It. Forgiveness does not mean it's okay
(08:10):
that it happened to you. That's not forgiveness. So I
never want you to misunderstand what forgiveness is or what
it's not. Sometimes people act like, well, I can't forgive
the person because in their mind, they think forgiveness is
just saying it's okay. And they say it wasn't okay.
There was a lot of hurt and pain there. Forgiveness is,
(08:32):
according to the Bible, a biblical definition of forgiveness. It's
to clear the record of the wrongdoing and sin. In
other words, when I forgive someone, I'm simply saying, I'm
not saying you deserve to be forgiven. I'm not saying
you've earned your forgiveness. I'm simply saying I refuse to
(08:54):
live with unforgiveness in my heart because it's poison to
my soul, whether you deserve it or don't deserve it.
I'm forgiving you because I need to walk in cleansing
of my soul before God. Do you remember when they
were crucifying Jesus on the cross and the soldiers were.
(09:15):
They were, uh, playing a game to see who got
his tunic? Jesus is in the cross, and he says,
forgive them, for they know not what they do. They
weren't repentant. They weren't asking for forgiveness. They weren't saying, oh, Lord,
we're doing such a wrong thing. Jesus was forgiving. Forgive them,
(09:37):
for they know not what they do. Now there's a
difference between God's forgiveness and our forgiveness. You need the
forgiveness of God by embracing his gift through repentance, turning
around and accepting his gift. The forgiveness of God relieves
you from your past. You need you. And I need
(09:58):
to forgive. Not because it excuses or takes away the
sin of the other person, but because you and I
need to be cleansed from the stain and grip of unforgiveness.
Does that make sense? So what does it mean to forgive?
God's way? Well, I think first of all, it means
that you need to receive God's forgiveness in your life.
(10:23):
It's hard to forgive if you haven't received forgiveness. Some
of us have been forgiven, but we haven't fully, fully
allowed that forgiveness to penetrate our hearts.
S1 (10:45):
You're listening to Bold Steps with Mark job, and we'll
return to our message shortly. Mark, do you know what
I've been reflecting on lately? The incredible privilege we have
as believers living in this particular moment in history. I
love to study history, but never before have we had
such powerful tools for sharing the gospel globally. Instantly reaching
people in remote villages. That happens through bold steps, doesn't it?
(11:06):
Or in close countries, in crowded cities alike. But we
have this unprecedented opportunity and it comes with a tremendous responsibility,
doesn't it?
S2 (11:14):
You know, I heard recently that moody radio programming is
heard in 190 countries is what someone said. Wow. And, um,
technology has allowed us to do that. And I'm amazed
when suddenly we get a email from Eastern Europe of
someone saying, hey, I haven't found a church yet, but
(11:35):
I listen to bold steps. Recently, someone told me that
a doctor in Mexico had joined their church and they
got saved through bold steps. And I'm like, wow, this
is amazing how seeds are just being shot throughout all
the world. We know specifically that there are people in
(11:56):
closed countries right now that listen in secret because it's
dangerous for them to be caught listening to Christian radio.
This is an amazing time to get the gospel out there.
There are close to 9 billion people in the world,
and there are millions and millions of people that have
(12:16):
very little gospel presence in their world. They are saturated
with false religion, with heresies, with a lot of different
ideology that does not allow Jesus Christ to come to
the forefront. And so radio, podcasting, our technology is people
can live stream. This is one of the ways that
(12:38):
we get past the guards at the borders and we
through the airwaves. God has given us a beautiful gift
to go past the guards, into the houses, into the homes,
and right to into the bedrooms and kitchens where people
live so that they are hearing the good message of
Jesus like never before. And we are passionate about this.
(13:02):
We know that there's a lot of other believers that
are passionate as well. And we're saying, join us, please.
This is a powerful moment for us to proclaim the
gospel of Jesus Christ, especially as the world is being
shaken in so many ways.
S1 (13:17):
I believe there are some listening right now who are
not just hearers of the word, but want to be
active participants in spreading that word. So today could be
your day to step into that calling by giving to
bold steps. Just go to Bold Steps org to make
a gift or call 800 D.L. Moody. That's (800) 356-6639. Remember,
your gift of any amount helps share God's Word with
(13:38):
those who need it most. Really, around the world, when
you give any amount, we'll send you a special gift
as our thanks and we'll take time to tell you
about that just a little bit later here in the
program today. But let's get back to the message now.
Here again is Mark.
S2 (13:57):
Some of us have been forgiven, but we still act
like we are under guilt and condemnation. Can I just
tell you what it means to be forgiven by God?
Psalms chapter 32 and verse one and two says, blessed
is he whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered.
Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord does not
(14:18):
count against him, in whose spirit is no deceit. Can
I tell you, when Jesus Christ has forgiven you, you?
It doesn't matter how long you've been there, what you've done,
how grievous it's been, how deep and dark it's been,
how nasty and dirty it has been. Your past is
absolutely 100% expunged legally, spiritually before God. Your past is
(14:43):
wiped clean not because you deserve it, but because Jesus
paid the price. That means that whatever you've done is
washed before God. Now, there may be consequences for what
you've done. God can forgive a murder, but you may
still go to jail and have to serve a sentence
(15:04):
here on earth. But God forgives. So you walk before
God and it's covered. It's blotted. And so some of
you have been cleansed, but you still walk as though
your past condemns you. The Bible tells us that God listen. What?
(15:24):
What else? It says in Isaiah chapter 38 verse 17.
In your love you keep me from the pit of destruction.
You have put all my sins behind your back so
God does not look back at our sins. It tells
us in Isaiah chapter 43 verse 25, I love this.
God is speaking. He says, I, even I am, who
(15:47):
blots your transgressions for my own sake, and remembers your
sins no more. Listen, I love the fact that God
chooses not to remember our sins anymore. God doesn't have amnesia.
He's omniscient. He knows all things, but he chooses not
(16:11):
to remember our sins. Unlike your spouse. Or boyfriend or girlfriend,
sometimes you get in an argument and we have our
mental filing cabinet. Oh, yeah. Remember what you said five
(16:34):
years ago when you were mad at me and you
said this? I can't believe you did that. Babe, I
never I barely remembered that. Oh, yeah. Here's another one.
I remember when you just left. You forgot my birthday.
I can't believe you. I babe, you know, I had
a lot going on. No, no, you forgot my birthday. Oh,
you want to say that? And you have a whole
filing cabinet that you pull out during argument times. Let
(16:56):
me tell you, God, He has an even more in-depth
filing cabinet, but he's closed it. He locks it and
he chooses not to remember it anymore. It's wiped. It's clean.
It's done. And I want you to remember that because, man,
(17:19):
I run into some some guys here that I, I mean,
I met him before. They were believers before their BC days.
And so when they introduced me, they, you know, I
know them with their street name. And then after a while,
what I've discovered is they, they change their name because
they don't want to be associated with the street name anymore.
And so I still remember I still call them by
(17:40):
their street name when I pastor. It's not that anymore.
Now I'm. And they gave me their new name, their
new identity. And I think that's so cool because it's
they're they're saying that's who I was, but but that's
not who I am anymore. I have a new identity.
I have a new calling. I have a new sense
of who I am. That's the old. Here's the new.
(18:01):
And so I believe that some of us have been cleansed, washed, forgiven,
but we still act as though we're under condemnation. We
still act as though we're guilty. We still act as
though our sin is still condemning us. And I want
(18:23):
to say, take on your new identity. You're a son
or daughter of the Most High God, and when you
come before God, you're not who you were. When God
looks at you, he sees you through Jesus Christ, and
you have the righteousness of Jesus imputed upon you. And
so when God sees you, he sees son. He sees daughter.
He doesn't see alcoholic, divorced, liar, cheater, failure. That's not
(18:50):
who God sees. God sees clean son, daughter of the
Most High God. That is your identity in God. So
how do we release people? So if you know that
today there's unforgiveness in your heart, if you sense that
as I've been speaking, there's a name or 2 or
(19:13):
3 that pop up. If you've diagnosed yourself and realized,
I don't have joy because I'm grieving the spirit, and
I'm tired of having my head trapped between the bars
of unforgiveness. Then here's your action. Step number one you
(19:36):
need to confess and repent. Confess means that I agree
with God about the fact that there is unforgiveness in
my heart. I have to tell God God I have unforgiveness, bitterness, resentment.
(19:56):
It's there. It's in the crevice of my heart. It's
poison in my soul. And I have to acknowledge and
admit before you, God, that it's there. Secondly, it's not
enough to confess it. You have to repent of it.
Repentance means that I'm willing to deal with it, that
(20:19):
I don't want it there anymore. I'm willing to go
to the hard places and say, God, take it out
of my heart because I don't want to. I'm turning
away from it. This is not what I want within
my soul. It means that you recognize the unforgiveness. You
stop excusing it. You agree with God that that's not
(20:40):
what you want. And then secondly, and lastly, you need
to choose the action of forgiving and releasing the person
that is hurt or offended you. You say, well, pastor,
I want to. I just don't feel it. You don't
have to feel anything. Obedience isn't driven by feeling. Obedience
(21:03):
is driven by obedience. The feelings come afterwards. And so
some of you are confusing a feeling of forgiveness with
the act of forgiveness. I need to take the action
of saying, God, I have held this person in debtors prison.
(21:26):
They have hurt me. And so I felt like you
owed me this. I'm angry, resentful, bitter against what you've
done because it it hurt me so bad. Forgiveness is
saying it did hurt me. It was bad. I've had
to overcome it. It's taken a long time. But I
no longer hold you in debtors prison. I open up
(21:50):
the door, debtor's prison and I release you from it.
I release you from the payment that I felt like
you owed me. And I'll say you owe me nothing,
I release you. Not because you deserve it, but because
God has forgiven me. I want nothing in my soul
that contaminates my heart. And so I set you free.
You now owe me nothing, and I. I demand no
(22:14):
emotional payment or suffering on my part from you. I've
released you and there is a declaration. There is a verbal.
I release this person from what they've done. You. You
say it before God. You say, God, help me to
walk in that forgiveness. Because oftentimes if you still have
(22:34):
a relationship with that person, every time they say something
or something else comes up, it feels like you have
to release them again and again and again. Some of you,
these people are dead and gone, and you may need
to release them even though they're dead and gone. But
there is a necessity if you're going to move forward
in the joy of God, that you forgive those that
(22:56):
have hurt you.
S1 (23:03):
You're listening to Bold Steps with our Bible teacher, Mark Jobe.
Today's message on the trap of unforgiveness can be found
in shared any time by going to our website, Bold Steps.
Now Mark, next time we'll hear a message titled The
Power of the blessing as we head into Father's Day weekend.
S2 (23:19):
Yeah, Father's Day weekend is right around the corner, and
I have a little tradition at our church. We've been
doing it for probably the last five years or so.
We actually I preach with my son Josiah. Some of
our listeners know that my son is graduate from Moody
Bible Institute, by the way, and him and I preach
together on this topic of Father's Day. That's great. And
(23:43):
it's great to have a multi-generational perspective. And when I
first started to do this, he was not a father,
but now he has three boys.
S1 (23:53):
Oh, he's so much wiser now. Oh, yeah. Three under.
S2 (23:56):
Three. So now it's not just theory. Now it's reality.
S1 (24:01):
Well, the message is called The Power of the blessing. And, uh,
team taught by Mark and Josiah Jobe. So that'll be
fun to hear on bold steps. Uh, Mark, while you're here,
something else I'd like to share with our listeners is
how this month, only when they give to bold steps,
we'll be happy to send a copy of our bold
step gift. Lies, boys. Believe.
S2 (24:18):
Yes. So if you're raising boys right now, especially between
the ages of 8 to 12, you have the great
responsibility and privilege to speak into their life and identity.
A lot of boys these days are being pumped with
a lot of lies, and so lies. Boys believe. I
think if you're a parent raising boys right now, this
(24:39):
would be a great book.
S1 (24:40):
Or a grandparent.
S2 (24:41):
Yes, or a grandparent as well.
S1 (24:43):
And unlike traditional books that may not hold a boy's attention, Lies,
Boys believe, is specifically designed with young men in mind,
filled with engaging illustrations. And there are some fun puzzles,
interactive challenges, and graphic elements that appeal to boys visual
learning style. This book makes discovering truth and adventure rather
than a chore. This thoughtfully crafted, bold step gift will
(25:05):
keep boys engaged while imparting life changing biblical wisdom. And today,
we'd love to send you a copy when you give
a gift to support this ministry. Just go to Bold
Steps org or call us at 800. That's (800) 356-6639. You
can also send your gift in the mail and request
(25:25):
the book. Write to us at bold steps. 820 North
LaSalle Boulevard, Chicago, Illinois 606 ten. I'm Wayne Shepherd, inviting
you to join us again tomorrow for the beginning of
Mark's lesson called The Power of the blessing. Don't miss
this special Father's Day message coming up Thursday on Bold
Steps with Mark John. Bold steps is a production of
(25:48):
Moody Radio, a ministry of Moody Bible Institute.