What happens when you miss your competitive goals despite giving your all? In the world of CrossFit, where success is measured in seconds and pounds, missing qualification cuts can feel devastating—especially when you made it the year before.
This raw, honest conversation with @crossfitbison athlete Kristen Torres @kristenan explores the emotional rollercoaster that follows disappointment in competitive fitness. We unpack the experience of watching leaderboard rankings drop from the top percentile to outside qualification as scores came in, the mental battle of deciding whether to redo workouts, and the surprising reactions when realizing dreams won't be fulfilled this season.
The CrossFit Open 2025 brought dramatic changes, cutting qualification percentages from 25% to just 2% for age groups, leaving many accomplished athletes on the outside looking in. We analyze each workout in detail—from the lung-burning burpee/lunge combinations to the technical gymnastics and heavy lifting challenges—examining where things went right and wrong in our execution.
Kristen shares powerful insights about finding balance between competitive drive and actually enjoying life, revealing her training schedule, recovery methods, and the mindset that allows her to find joy in every workout regardless of outcomes. Her approach to supporting friends who qualified instead of dwelling on personal disappointment offers a masterclass in sportsmanship and community values.
Whether you're a competitive athlete or someone who's faced setbacks in pursuit of important goals, this conversation will resonate deeply. How do you bounce back when your best isn't enough? How do you reframe disappointment into opportunity? Join us for this candid exploration of resilience in the face of missed goals and discover why the journey matters more than the destination.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to another episode of Botox and Burpees.
I have with me my very specialguest, kristen Torres.
She is an amazing athlete aswell as just human being in
general, and today our topic isgoing to be you might as well
call it oh no, I missed the cutline for the age group or for
the CrossFit Open semifinals.
Now what do we do so?
(00:25):
Basically, this year, the 2025CrossFit Open has now been
completed.
The cut lines are notcompletely official, but I think
it's pretty much settled atthis point, and neither of us
made it this year Right.
We made it last year.
We did and neither of us made itthis year.
Right, we made it last year, wedid, and so there are a lot of
(00:48):
people at our gym that did makeit.
Congrats to, I think there area whole lot of people, I think
Dave Syvertson and Amy Edelman,mindy Mindy McDonald that was a
huge one, right?
Let's see Kathleen yeah,kathleen Staunton.
Tracy McGee killed it.
You know top what, 20 or 25,something like that, let's see.
(01:17):
I think Alondra Greenlee madeit, but there were a bunch of
people that also didn't make itthis year, including us, and we
were pretty close, closer than Ithink sometimes the numbers
show, and so I just wanted totalk a little bit about you know
how you feel, like what thatprocess was like.
How does that guide you, maybefor the following year?
Because I think it's not justabout CrossFit but it's about
any.
It's basically a metaphor, likea metaphor for life, anything
(01:41):
where you don't quite reach yourgoals.
There's something to be saidabout learning how to address
that, how to deal with it.
Crossfit is a little bit easierbecause they're just like hard
numbers and a lot of things thatwe reach for are kind of
multifactorial and it's not so.
It's more nebulous.
So sometimes it's not.
So just make a number and yousucceed in life.
(02:03):
But sometimes dealing with whatwe do in the gym can translate
into what we do outside the gym.
So tell me a little bit aboutyourself, kristen.
What would you like people toknow about you?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I love CrossFit, even though I didn't make it and I
was looking back and this was myseventh Open.
Wow yeah, and I didn't evenrealize it.
I think I've only beenrecording officially since I
joined Bison and the community.
There is kind of what drivesthat you want to be competitive
or be working out alongside withsomebody.
(02:36):
So CrossFit for at least sevenyears.
I got into it because I did ahalf marathon, didn't get the
score I wanted and realized Ineeded to be stronger.
Now I don't run, I onlyCrossFit.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That's such a typical CrossFit start story.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Ran and no longer run , unless you're forced to.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Right, even at 200.
Now I'm like oh my God.
And I have a full-time job.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I work from home, so this is my, my outlet and this
is my hour, or even more, plus aday to I don't know play with
my friends and push myself inways that I sometimes don't get
to at work the type of personthat looks very calm on the
(03:23):
outside, you execute really well, but then when I talk to you I
feel like you don't feel alwaysthat way on the inside, but
somehow you project supercalmness.
Do people tell you that?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Sometimes they say oh , you have more in you, Maybe
physically, but everything elseis shut down have more in you,
maybe physically, but everythingelse is shut down.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I will say your quality of movement is as
excellent as anyone else I'veseen in the gym.
You execute really well and thethings that you work on you
certainly improve on.
I've seen you for the pastcouple of years and the things
that you focus on you reallyhave moved up orders of
magnitude.
I would say what were thebiggest improvements, would you
say, in terms of your trainingand what you've done over the
(04:12):
past year or two?
I know what I think, but I wantto hear what you think.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
So I think I've just learned every day.
I did really well in the Openlast year.
I made it to quarterfinals Lastyear, felt really great and
then throughout the year youstart to fall off, like I think
June, july, my conditioning, myendurance, running I said I need
to do more, I want to get ringmuscle-ups, I want to get you
(04:37):
know better at everything.
So I think training overallwith certain specialties was my
thing, just not what was in theOpen this year.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean because you have pretty much
every skill required, right?
You know how to do ringmuscle-ups, bar muscle-ups,
handstand, walk, like everything.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, I can fight through everything, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So there's nothing that they would throw at you
that you couldn't at least youknow get through some of it
right and yet not that much ofthat was actually tested this
year none right and and I talkedabout this with dave on the
last podcast like you know, it'sthere's a lot of luck involved
in terms of just three workoutsand what you can do with it.
Um, how does it feel?
So, let's, we'll talk about thethree workouts and go through
(05:25):
them, um, a little bit, but Ijust, uh, wanted to ask you
about your feelings.
So you finished the thirdworkout.
Where were you sitting aroundat that point when you, when you
entered your score that weekend?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
On Friday I was like 1%.
Yes, yes, yes, yes yes.
And then, as the weekend wenton, I thinkurday night I was
sitting pretty close.
Um spoke to dave about it andhe's like you.
You need to shave two minutesoff this workout this last one.
I was like I don't think I have10 seconds uh-huh but I'm gonna
try anyway oh so you redid it.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I redid it on sunday, uh-huh.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
And 30 seconds better well that's huge right.
So I thought I had 10.
So, yeah, I was happy that Ipushed myself, but I went into
it knowing there's no, there wasno way I was going to make up
two minutes, but I tried anyway.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Okay, and then where were you sitting when you
entered your score on Sunday andthen like looking at the
leaderboard on Monday?
I think I dropped three percent, or I think I was at I don't
know 282 and went to 683.
It was huge, Wow, Huge.
So when did you know that?
You're like crap, I'm outsidethe cut line.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Probably right before I did the workout.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
No, no, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, monday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It was late.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and how'd youfeel?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Oh it was, yeah, heartbreaking, it's
heartbreaking.
Yeah.
You think that I was hopefulthat all the people that did
worse waited to put their score?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
in yes.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Like maybe they're waiting Probably a little bit of
wishful thinking on that one.
But you know, if HQ recordedhow many times you refresh an
app, I'd probably be number oneRefresh, refresh.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So once you knew you were not, how did you feel about
that?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I was a little let down.
I was kind of frustrated duringthe whole process, thinking my
gosh, I have all these highskill movements.
Why couldn't I just do theburpees?
Why couldn't I just do thelunges, fat and replaying it and
just being hard on myself aboutthe whole process Ruminations,
(07:36):
I can't do anything about it,but that leaderboard kept on
bringing it up.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
How did you feel about your friends who did make
it?
Good, yeah, yeah, no jealousy,I mean why are you flaunting it
on social media and posting allthis stuff?
I didn't even try too hard andI still made it.
That's so awesome.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Right, right.
But like I think you said, likefor me, I look like I'm doing.
You know it's going easy for meand inside I'm struggling you
know as somebody like Mindy, whoI talked to throughout the
whole entire process she wasjust as stressed out as I was,
but she was able to just bringit together and do it and she
was one that I was like.
Just I know she put so muchgrit into it so.
(08:16):
I was really happy to see yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
That was inspiring to see her do that.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
All right.
Well, hey, let's go through theopen a little bit here.
The first workout, just becausepeople forget and I've already
forgot.
But then I hear about the work.
It's like, oh yes, I remember.
So this one was the 15 minutesright AMRAP three lateral
burpees over dumbbell, threedumbbell hang clean to overheads
, and then the 30-foot walkinglunge, and it was 35 pounds for
(08:41):
you, Actually, because I wasover 55, it was 35 pounds for me
too.
And it was 35 pounds for you,Actually, because I was over 55,
it was 35 pounds for me too.
That was the biggest thing forme this year is I was over 55.
And so for me not to make thecut line when everything was so
much lighter and easier was sortof a it stung, Even though I
didn't have as much invested as,I think, like you or some of
the more intensively trainingathletes.
So what did you think aboutthis?
(09:02):
Let me see I have your scorehere it was 219, right Seven
rounds 24 burpees over dumbbell,13, dumbbell clean to overhead
to finish out.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
As soon as I heard this one, I knew you knew what
this was not going to be my openReally why you got motor.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
You have a motor though Not that good Really
Apparently.
Yeah, it was tough 2,699.
That's a tough one right, right, no, no sorry, 1,310.
That was it.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah, so that was my worst one.
I think I got caught up in theopen.
I had so much fun.
I did the Friday Night Lights,I did all of that, but as soon
as I was done and it wasn't myscore wasn't in and it's see,
anybody's score.
I just knew I had to do itagain.
And because Well, I messed up.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Oh, what happened.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Right after the burpees yeah.
I lunged.
Oh.
And I got probably like 20 feet.
Oh really.
Before.
I heard Kathleen screaming tome, so I knew right then I had
at least five more reps in meLike I could have gotten
whatever that time differencewas yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I knew I had to do it again.
(10:13):
Yeah.
And I did not want to do moreburpees, but I did it.
I did it again.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
On Sunday, on Sunday, and did you improve?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I did.
I got 10 more reps.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, I was very happy and I did it with.
There was a lot of peopleredoing it.
I think a lot of us did theFriday Night Lights.
We gave it a shot.
We you know had so much fun butultimately it wasn't part of
our training routine.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
One of the things that bugs me, and after this
workout I went.
I am sort of I like I went thisyear I looked at a lot.
You could submit videos withyour score submission and a lot
of people did, especially theones who are not affiliated with
the gym.
That's the only way you canactually register is that you
have to submit your own video ifyou don't have a judge, lunges
(11:06):
that are just kind of like likenot standing up, you know, not
really jumping over the bar, uhdumbbell, like kind of going
behind, which I have gottencaught in the past and Adam
Ramson has pointed out.
So this year I really tried.
I really tried to jump over thedumbbell, but I feel like it
annoys me, not that even I'mthat invested in it, but I like
look at all these other videosand I'm like, wow, these people
are just not even keeping tostandard and I think overall as
(11:27):
a gym we find that veryimportant to keep to standard.
How was your judge for this one?
Did they no rep you for any ofthese For either workout?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
First time or second time?
No, she did not.
She tried to keep me doing thereps in the proper order, just
that.
How about you?
How was this workout?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It was, it was 35 pounds, and so I you know, the
issue is is every time you golighter with something, you got
to go faster.
Like there's no excuse, becauseit's lighter, you just have to
do more.
Right, and I'm generally prettygood at dumbbells Like I mean
sorry, burpees, I did get I norep myself actually, because I
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went on the lunge.
I was halfway down and I liketook a little step, like extra
step or something like that, andI looked over at Kayla and she
was like looking at me and I waslike crap, I know I.
So I had to go back and um andrestart it.
So that was one, but I thatreally didn't make enough of a
difference.
I did this was pretty good.
I don't remember exactly what Idid, but I did pretty decent on
(12:32):
this one and I was like um, butthat happens a lot for me, I do
pretty decent on the first oneand then, like it kind of
excites a little bit, um, okay,so then let's talk about the
second one.
So you knew you were around1300 after the first one and
then you got the second one,which was a time cap 20 minutes
of no sorry time cap 12 minutes.
(12:55):
It was a repeat 22.3,.
21 pull ups, 42 double unders,21 thrusters, 18 chest to bar
pull ups, 36 double undersers,18 thrusters, 15 bar muscle-ups,
30 double-unders, 15 thrustersand the weights for the
thrusters the 21 thrusters wereat 65, then the 18 thrusters
were at 75 and then the 15thrusters were at 85.
Uh, so what do you think?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Right off the bat I knew I was going to do better.
When it first came out, Ididn't have bar muscle-ups, so I
got the 156.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
You know like we were all sitting at that 156.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Right.
And I went into it with suchmaybe a little too much
confidence to my demise, but Idid initially feel really good
about it.
Okay.
And then I did it and thatdidn't feel good.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You got 210 reps.
So how far did you get in thatthat's so.
And that's a fast high break to607.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, so what did I get through?
The bar muscle ups.
And then I think, the secondtime I did it because I did this
one, so you redid this one too.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, so the first time.
What did you not like about it?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So the first time I'm just learning my butterfly,
yeah, so I was able to dobutterfly pull-ups and then I
tried butterfly chest-to-bar andI just smoked out.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Even just three extra inches makes such a difference
on those right, right.
And then the fact that you haveto make sure you're like
contacting, because I feel likeagain I watch videos I was like
these MFers are not touching onthose chest-to-bars at all and
I'm like, come on, you can'tjust go above, you actually have
to touch.
That's what the judgingstandard is.
Yep.
And also these videos areterrible.
I'm sorry I'm just going tocomplain a lot about standards
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in this one, but I saw a loting.
When you're like on a verycompetitive level is very
important.
So you had problems with thebutterfly chest to bars With the
butterfly, but I still got.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I think I still got to the bar muscle-ups and then
the thrusters.
I just didn't have the timeLike.
I had full confidence I couldget through those thrusters.
Okay, so then you're like okay,I got to redo this, yeah.
So then what was your strategy?
Just not doing the butterflies,or what did you do?
(15:09):
So I did butterfly pull-ups andthen kipping, and then my bar
muscle-ups and I still wasfatigued at that point you know.
and then I was able to bang out,I think, like nine thrusters
unbroken, just so I knew I hadmore Again a time thing.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Didn't plan out my time, but you did pretty well.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
736 yeah, I'm so happy with my yeah, yeah and
then.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
So where were you sitting at this point after two?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I was still kind of low.
I was still kind of low.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I needed a lift or a technical workout to be that
last okay, so you were in therunning, but you needed a bump
on that last one to get there.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, so 96, 95, like I was somewhere right there
Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And then the last one was let's see here the time cap
20 minutes.
Five wall walks, 50 cal row.
Five wall walks, 25 deadlifts,wall walks, cleans, wall walks,
snatches, wall walks, row tofinish.
And that was 155 for thedeadlifts, 25 of them.
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85 pounds for the cleans, the25 cleans, and then the 65-pound
snatches, 25 of those.
Tough one really tough.
But you still did better onthis one than the other two.
Actually you did 653rd place.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, yeah.
So it was my best one.
Yeah, and the one I probablywas even more nervous about
because of the row.
I don't think I've ever rowed50 calories on purpose like
exactly Right, yeah, yeah, letalone 100.
Right, during a workout In themiddle of a workout.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Right or finishing a workout right yeah, and you got
1748, which is pretty awesomeyeah, yeah so?
So you said, you redid this oneI did so so, dave, saw you, you
didn't, did you finish thefirst time?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
uh, yeah okay this is the one I needed.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Two more minutes, yes so you finished, but he was
like you got to cut two minutesoff, so you must have finished
like 18 something.
Yeah, yep.
And then you could finish 1748.
Yeah, so what did you dodifferently to cut 30 seconds
off your time?
The third time, the second timeon this third workout.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I don't know, I think I just wanted it more.
Really.
You know, I just I just thoughtI went a little faster on the
first row.
I think the first time I did itI was pulling like an eight to
nine, and this one I was alittle higher up and my snatches
I didn't break up as much.
I don't know why I thought thefirst time I had to break them
up.
If there's something I'mconfident in, it's 65-pound
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snatches.
So I held on to that and thenthat last row.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I just prayed.
What was your split times?
Were you looking at a number tokeep like, oh, let me keep it
over.
Like 500 or 700 or whatever itis?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, I had to, I, I.
Whenever I left off the firstrow, I wanted to start on the
second row.
So I left off like eight 50.
Okay, I wanted to start ateight 50.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Okay, and did you hold that?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
If somebody came over and yelled at me yeah, I pulled
it If nobody was looking, youknow.
But I definitely bought myselfmore time in that workout I had
like I got to the rower 20seconds faster, so somewhere
along the line.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Oh, so you did save probably another 10 seconds in
that.
Wow, that's 10 seconds on a rowis like tremendous.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Thank you, tremendous , I didn't feel it, but you're
right yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
So how was your conditioning this year?
Did you get injured at all?
Were you feeling beat up?
No, everything felt okay.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Everything felt okay.
I mean, funny enough, I wentsnowboarding the weekend before
this last workout.
Oh, and funny enough, I wentsnowboarding the weekend before
this last workout.
Oh wow I came back Monday orSunday night and then redid it.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
So maybe that had something to do with it.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
So you don't actually let the open dictate your life
on every level.
You actually do real stuff inlife.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I feel it's really important for that balance.
I think that first week I waslike open, I got to eat, I got
to work out a certain time andit didn't really help me.
I was being so strict and sostressed out that by the last
week I said, well, this isn'thow I train, something Rafi
taught me.
If you don't train like thisall the time, why do you expect
(19:18):
something so different?
You can't change everything andexpect different results.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's so true.
So what is it that yougenerally do in your life to
help maximize your training?
Like, do you eat, like what?
Let me delve into the life ofKristen Torres a little bit.
Like, what is your eating?
Like, what is your sleeppatterns?
Like, like, how often do youtrain every day?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Every day, every day, every day.
I take off Sundays typically.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You're usually a 7 amer, right yeah 7 am.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
I do next level so.
I do additional training, whichI fully enjoy, and I do eat
pretty well.
I think I'm pretty good withsticking.
I don't count macros but I havethe eye for it, like I've done
it.
So I keep to that.
I eat a lot of vegetables but Ido go out and I do have fun and
(20:07):
I go out to eat and I have acouple beers and I don't stress
out too much, too much if I getoff track, but I make sure that
I train and I train to not gethurt.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So what does that mean?
Train not to get hurt.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
So if there are certain days like yesterday, we
had increasing weight inbarbell- yeah.
And my testing is if I feelgood at 95 pounds, which is our
typical workout weight, I can goheavy.
Okay.
If that 95 feels like garbage,i't go heavy, I don't risk it,
especially deadlifts my back, myI um.
(20:45):
So I kind of keep in tune, likeat the beginning of a workout
have you ever had an injurybefore?
I broke my hand on a box jumpoh what?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
how is that possible?
Whoa, did you step on your handor?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
something.
I smacked the edge of the boxwith my hand.
I was working out with a guyand we were supposed to flip and
we didn't flip down to thelower.
So when I used so much force Ibroke my hand.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
And I was in a cast for like six to eight weeks.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Okay, but that's a freak accident.
That's a freak accident.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
But other than that I mean just the regular banged up
stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Wow, so you're very durable.
Yeah, okay, that's prettyimpressive.
Okay, so now you look at you,where you are now, and so what's
going to change, if anything?
At this point it's only been aweek, so it's a little early to
really know, and everything thatmost people I've seen decide to
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do one week after the opendoesn't really stick for 50 more
weeks after.
But what is it that you thinkyou would want to do?
At this point?
You're self-assessing a littlebit.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
So I think for me the time management.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Time management.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Time management.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Really.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, I don't think I have.
I think, talking to Dave duringone of the workouts, I gave him
my rep scheme plans.
Yeah.
And he's like well, where'syour break?
How long is your break?
Yeah.
And I'm like oh, I didn't eventhink about that, I just thought
you know 5, 10, 15 or whatever.
So I think I have to plan mybreaks like in a workout at
(22:16):
Bison.
We have a planned break.
Yeah.
Like today.
Two minutes on, two minutes off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I couldget right back to it, right?
So if I just plan 10 seconds,15 seconds.
I maybe don't have to take the10 to 15 between each movement.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So I think that's something that I'm going to work
on, be more cognitive of, butstill work on all my skills that
I want to.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Right, yeah, to maintain those, because you've
gotten very, very good at allthat stuff, the high skill stuff
.
So how about your weightnumbers?
Are you happy with what yourlift numbers are at this point?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Ooh, I think I could do more.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Really.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, I love it, but I enjoy it so much that I think
I could push.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, yeah, okay, like which particular movement
do you think you have the mostheadroom for in terms of like
gain?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
My snatch.
I feel like I could do a littlebetter.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
What's your one rep right now?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I think it's 145.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Wow, yeah, okay, and you think you could get what?
Another 510?
Yeah, really.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I hope so.
Wow, yeah, okay, and thenanything overhead, I enjoy, I
just enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
And then anything overhead I just enjoy it Well
you have the mobility Right.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, I should use it .
Speaker 1 (23:25):
So then, how about the motor stuff?
How do you get better at that?
What is that all about?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
You know what it's going to be running.
I think Really it's sodevastating.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
You anticipate you're going to be doing a lot more
running this year.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
You know one of my idols in the sport, ms Karam.
She runs consistently and shecan just.
I think it's twofold she hasthe motor, the engine to get
through it, but it's also aheadspace of being.
You're just running, there's nobreak.
So I'm channeling that becauseshe, you know, somehow she makes
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it seem easy to get through thelong stuff.
For me, a 20-minute workout,forget it.
Give me the five.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
So that's what her secret is?
Oh yeah, because her buildshe's not taller Like, she's
about the same height as you.
Yeah, wow, yeah, she runs likeher rest day is a run.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, what is your next level?
Like additional training,usually include in it similar
stuff or something different.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Similar.
So machine work, a lot ofmachine work, bodybuilding, so
all of that fun stuff,gymnastics, endurance, capacity
I mean my focus was enduranceand capacity, but I also wanted
the fun stuff.
I wanted the ring muscle up.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I wanted the heavier weight.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
So I have a balance of all of that going on.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And how many times a week do you do you do that?
The next level.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Three times Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And what do you do for recovery?
Anything in particular.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I get good sleep.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I get a lot of sleep.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I'm in bed by like eight, eight, 15.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Wow, that's awesome Right.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
How do you do that?
Oh, I wake up at 5 am.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Okay, how do you shut down, like, do you just like
turn off your phone and makesure you don't look at it, or
like, do you have any?
I need some tips about gettingto bed earlier.
I scroll Before you go to bedBefore I go to bed, oh so okay,
I watch a lot of Dateline.
Really that puts you to bed,yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
But I do have TV in my room.
But I make a point to startwinding down.
No eating that late.
I do snack.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Okay, I do snack.
What's your cheat?
What do you enjoy?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
snacking on oh peanut M&Ms, oh, really All day.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That's not bad, is it the amount I eat, maybe?
So, um, why do you do all ofthis?
That?
What you do, do you, like Ithink, you derive joy in just
doing like every time I've seenyou work out, you're actually as
opposed to me happy.
Like you're happy, you know.
(25:58):
Uh, like you bring your own joyinto it every time.
What is it?
Where is that joy coming fromwhen you do this?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I get to do it right.
I see people that I work withfriends, family that don't have
this outlet, that don't either.
They don't want to, they don'tknow that.
Whatever, I get to do thisstuff and I've met amazing
people that's probably most ofit.
And I'm independent, like I'mable to carry my groceries up my
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stairs, I'm able to move myfurniture when I want to, I'm
able to.
You know, if somebody wants togo on a hike, I can do all of
those things, and that's most ofthe reason why is just being
able to do it and seeing howmuch I can push myself.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
You know, age is against you for next year
because you're you're going totop out.
You're 43 this year.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Next year, I think I'm going to be the baby.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
You're going to be.
Oh, do you, do you age up intothe next year?
Because right now I have youlisted at age 43.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
And I'll be 44 in August.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Wait.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
So you're going to be at the very end of the 40 to 44
division next year?
Dang yeah, so you're going tohave to wait another year after
that to age up into the 45division.
See, can you believe it?
This is one of the few timesand I always you know it's
always a running joke that youcan't wait to actually get older
.
Like everything else, you'relike don't get older.
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But in this case and that'stough, like did you feel like
that extra year made adifference?
Or you actually got better inyour conditioning and everything
else?
So it wasn't that, it was justthe workouts didn't really line
up for you this year.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I think, yeah, I guess I am a little older, my
life is drastically differentthan it was last year, the year
before, yeah, and these workoutswere not in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, but I think you're actually a better athlete
, like you're more capable thisyear than you were last year,
which is kind of amazing because, like I said, anyone over the
age of 40, I guess you know I'vesort of rethought where you
start to decline in terms of,like, actual physical numbers,
and it's got to be over 44,because I still see people in
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the 40 to 44 range likeimproving their lift numbers,
improving their cardiac capacityand improving their overall you
know, I mean everyone canimprove their skill set to like
on complex movements, even older, I mean.
I think that that's notsomething that changes.
I think it's just hardersometimes but there is a certain
level at which, like you can'tsqueeze more juice out of that
(28:32):
lemon in terms of musclestrength or aerobic capacity.
So you're still making thosegains and you just told me you
still think you have more in youin terms of like increasing
that.
So, even though you're going tobe at the top of the age
division next year, you probablyagain, if things line up, have
another shot.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, if I can stay within the 10 percentile for the
individual group, like thatmeans I can hold my own with
these young spring chickens, soI'm not too upset Some of them
could be my, my kids, right.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Do you think it was fair that they made a two
percent this year?
Speaker 3 (29:10):
For me personally, because I didn't make it.
No, absolutely not, but I thinkit's too much of a jump, I
think it was just too much of a,you know, from 25% you had a
bigger crew feeling really goodto like barely anybody making it
, and we didn't find out untillater on.
(29:32):
I don't know if that would havereally changed my training but
we didn't find out until alittle bit later.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, it was pretty close to the open season when we
found out out where the cutlines were going to be for this.
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Right, how did you do last yearin the quarters?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I think I did pretty well, very well, I think it was
still.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah 621 and yeah no 413, actually, which is pretty
amazing.
So when they let you play withall the heavyweights and the
skill stuff, you get to cutloose a little bit.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, that's my wheelhouse, the regular good old
burpees.
No.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
You know it's kind of crazy Listening to you now.
I came in having very littleexpectation or, honestly, joy
coming into the.
You know it's been.
Unlike you, I'm not quite asdurable and I'm always fighting
this, that or the other thing,and so I know I have to work out
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because it makes me healthier.
I really enjoy the community.
I've put so much in like listenI've.
I feel like I've been whereyou've been, uh, five years ago
for sure, you know and uh.
But after a while, you, you knowyou have ups and downs and
probably it's a little bit of adown in terms of like getting
joy out of it.
And um, especially when you seepeople get injured or you
(30:56):
yourself get injured and you'relike, oh man, like just chasing
that, is that really worth it?
But the approach that you havein terms of taking joy from that
performance, from reallystriving to excel not because
anyone else is, and I think evenif you weren't close to the cut
line, you would still be takingjoy from every workout that you
(31:18):
do.
It is a little more fun whenyou have your friends competing
very close.
You know who are high level orcompeting with you and all that.
But even if you didn't, like Idon't think, um, had you made
semis, uh, you would be likefive orders of magnitude happier
, like you are happy with whatyou do.
(31:40):
You're talking about today'sworkout like all of it, like
every day is a joy for you andso just getting that is like
this is a little bit of icing onthe cake.
It gives you something tostrive for, gives you something
to focus on, but it's I don'tnecessarily think that that
would be the end, all or be all,like it is for some people here
.
Yeah.
And, and I think that that's avery healthy attitude, maybe
(32:02):
certainly healthier than myattitude.
You know it was funny because Iwill say I was.
I didn't, I know, for everyworkout I didn't give it all my
juice.
And I had a couple differentreasons and they were all like
very reasonable reasons, like Idon't want to get injured, I
just want to make sure I get agood workout in and all that,
and that's totally fine.
(32:23):
But I I always feel like I lefta little something on the table
, especially because they werelighter.
I was doing jumping, pull-ups,stuff like that, and when I
finished out I was around 165ish and I was like, oh yeah, not
a problem, I made it again soeasy, like listen, this is like
a cakewalk, like I've done itevery year, like this is just, I
(32:45):
don't even have to try and I'mstill doing it.
And then on Monday, after thecut line comes out, I'm like 209
and I'm like holy cow, Itotally missed it.
And I was like whoa, this iscrazy.
Uh, and I had some mixedfeelings because I didn't really
put much into it, but on theother hand, it still like
(33:06):
doesn't feel awesome, especiallywhen you're so self-satisfied
and feeling like, oh, I can dothis all the time, like I don't
even have to try, I can do this.
And then it just felt terrible.
And then I was like wait asecond.
But you didn't like, what didyou expect?
You didn't deserve, like youdidn't really put what you could
into it, uh, so it's kind of aweird, like kind of mixed
(33:26):
feelings on that one.
And then I was like, but shouldI have put more in?
Like you know, I mean, it's a,it's a year process, like it
really is, like you have tostart and like continue, like
you said, in june, in august, inseptember, like I've been there
for all of it.
And I was like you know, Idon't know, like maybe I'm,
maybe I'm a little bit of adifferent level, I don't know.
(33:47):
And then today I just checked,like yesterday I was at 204 and
today I'm at 202, and so I'mlike it's so weird, right,
because I know on my level, likethe people I think they are
going through and looking atthese video submissions, and
like not good, not good, notgood, not good.
So I was kind of like all right, so what does that feel like if
(34:09):
I actually got under 200?
Which I don't think so.
It's already Thursday and so Ithink they've probably finalized
all the standings pretty close.
But I was like then, what do Ido?
And I was like you know thenwhat do I do?
And I was like you know what?
Actually, this is kind ofperfect.
Like I'm so close, I did it.
You know what I could do forwhere I was, but now I don't
have to like kill myself for thesame time.
(34:31):
So like that's, like that's,you know.
I think Britt Arcee, I think, orsomeone like her, said the same
thing.
Like I want to do just wellenough, but not make it to the
depth, so I don't have to domore working out.
I don't know if I feel I'm justsaying I feel mixed about the
whole thing, but like listeningto you today and talking to you,
(34:54):
I feel like I have more juice.
I can certainly do better interms of like taking joy from
every workout.
Like I think that's the keyEvery workout you do you take
joy from, and then that likehelps drive you, and then when
there's something like this,which is special, like you said,
friday Night Lights and beingwith your friends, and I'm so
(35:17):
impressed that you redid everyworkout.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Is it impressive.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Do you, and you improved on every one, which is
really unusual.
Yeah, and not just by a little,by, like a lot A decent amount.
So what does that tell youabout?
Like maybe you shouldn't doFriday Night Lights and you need
to just like sort of gear upand like max out on that.
First, one.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah, I think, staying with my schedule,
because that's's what I enjoydoing right right, that's the
schedule I like right and it'sthe one that I, you know, thrive
the most off of right.
So I've learned that.
And, um, yeah, because I just,I just want to do workouts once,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I don't want to do them twice, right, that's.
I mean, you have the capacity,but why?
Why do it twice when you coulddo it once and do it like really
really well.
Yeah, yeah, really well.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Next time.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Is that what you're going to do next?
Speaker 3 (36:04):
year?
I hope so.
I think last year I only didone workout twice and it was one
of those like as soon as you'redone, like before I even know
what the score is, I'm like, no,I didn't do it good, I didn't
do it right.
Right.
Like I just knew right away.
Right right right.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
But the others you were like yeah, that was my best
effort, yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, especially that last one, that 50 Cal row at
the end.
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
What were you thinking at the time?
Did you have people thereyelling at you or did you just
like, did you close your eyes?
I closed my eyes, really.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah, I closed my eyes the second time.
There was more people.
The McKinney's were there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they weresaying all types of things.
They were breathing all typesof ways.
I don't know what was happening.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Do you try to pull harder and slower?
Do you try to pull faster andwhen?
Do you send it Like a minuteleft?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Oh, no, like 10 seconds.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Oh, so you give yourself 10 seconds to max
effort.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Pretty much.
I don't know if I have it.
That was the hardest I thinkI've ever rode in my life.
To be like.
I don't think I'll forget thatWow.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Ever, yeah, that's impressive.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
That was the most painful part of it right there,
it was the most painful, andthat's what I've been training
on is the row.
It was painful.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
What kind of advice would you give anybody who just
missed the cut line, who hasfeeling not awesome about it,
who feels like you know this isimportant for them and we all
choose what is important to us.
It could be breaking 80 on agolf course, it could be skiing
a double black diamond, it couldbe whatever.
(37:35):
They're all frivolous andimportant at the same time.
It really doesn't matter whatgoals you set.
They're important when you setthem.
And so when you said it likeyou know what, I think I can do
this, I want to do it and Ididn't do it.
Like what is the advice youwould give?
Speaker 3 (37:52):
So I think, thinking back of the support that the
girls that did make it they werethere the whole time, you know
kind of talking through stuff soI was upset and whatever it got
through it.
But I think now I'm gonna justhope that the semis are in my
wheelhouse and I'll work outbeside them and push them to do
(38:14):
better to.
Maybe if there's a heavy liftor if there's something super
technical, I would love to bethat pace setter for them.
So I didn't and I'll do itwithout stress.
I won't be watching thatleaderboard for myself, but for
them.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
That's so awesome.
So the advice is to just keepin it, keep in it, keep
supporting your friends, thepeople who have supported you.
Keep supporting them, and it isreciprocal.
You have to have the people whohave supported you and give
back to them, and that makes itbetter for you.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
That's like a fuller experience for you, right and
imagine doing it alone likethese, workouts are probably not
going to be easy and if they'restuck doing it, hopefully not
by themselves.
I know I can offer that now andsee if I would have, if I would
have crushed it.
That's right.
Darn.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I mean, yeah, I know, wow, I would have been like
exactly.
So that's good, like you cansort of see where you would have
actually been and, and I betyou that when the semis come out
you're going to, it's going tobe all in your wheelhouse, I
have a feeling.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Right, I can't wait to watch, right.
So that's why you can't juststop.
I think you'd have to say, okay, let's, let's keep going.
It just wasn't, it wasn't forme, but it's going to be
eventually.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
I love that.
Yeah, kristen, thank you somuch.
You've gotten.
You give me a lot for and goodluck you too.
Two spots.
I got what I deserved, let'sjust put it that way, and that's
a good lesson for me too.
Thank you so much, kristen.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Thank you.
Welcome to another episode of Botox and Burpees.
I have with me my very specialguest, kristen Torres.
She is an amazing athlete aswell as just human being in
general, and today our topic isgoing to be you might as well
call it oh no, I missed the cutline for the age group or for
the CrossFit Open semifinals.
Now what do we do so?
(00:25):
Basically, this year, the 2025CrossFit Open has now been
completed.
The cut lines are notcompletely official, but I think
it's pretty much settled atthis point, and neither of us
made it this year Right.
We made it last year.
We did and neither of us made itthis year.
Right, we made it last year, wedid, and so there are a lot of
(00:48):
people at our gym that did makeit.
Congrats to, I think there area whole lot of people, I think
Dave Syvertson and Amy Edelman,mindy Mindy McDonald that was a
huge one, right?
Let's see Kathleen yeah,kathleen Staunton.
Tracy McGee killed it.
You know top what, 20 or 25,something like that, let's see.
(01:17):
I think Alondra Greenlee madeit, but there were a bunch of
people that also didn't make itthis year, including us, and we
were pretty close, closer than Ithink sometimes the numbers
show, and so I just wanted totalk a little bit about you know
how you feel, like what thatprocess was like.
How does that guide you, maybefor the following year?
Because I think it's not justabout CrossFit but it's about
any.
It's basically a metaphor, likea metaphor for life, anything
(01:41):
where you don't quite reach yourgoals.
There's something to be saidabout learning how to address
that, how to deal with it.
Crossfit is a little bit easierbecause they're just like hard
numbers and a lot of things thatwe reach for are kind of
multifactorial and it's not so.
It's more nebulous.
So sometimes it's not.
So just make a number and yousucceed in life.
(02:03):
But sometimes dealing with whatwe do in the gym can translate
into what we do outside the gym.
So tell me a little bit aboutyourself, kristen.
What would you like people toknow about you?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I love CrossFit, even though I didn't make it and I
was looking back and this was myseventh Open.
Wow yeah, and I didn't evenrealize it.
I think I've only beenrecording officially since I
joined Bison and the community.
There is kind of what drivesthat you want to be competitive
or be working out alongside withsomebody.
(02:36):
So CrossFit for at least sevenyears.
I got into it because I did ahalf marathon, didn't get the
score I wanted and realized Ineeded to be stronger.
Now I don't run, I onlyCrossFit.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That's such a typical CrossFit start story.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Ran and no longer run , unless you're forced to.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Right, even at 200.
Now I'm like oh my God.
And I have a full-time job.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I work from home, so this is my, my outlet and this
is my hour, or even more, plus aday to I don't know play with
my friends and push myself inways that I sometimes don't get
to at work the type of personthat looks very calm on the
(03:23):
outside, you execute really well, but then when I talk to you I
feel like you don't feel alwaysthat way on the inside, but
somehow you project supercalmness.
Do people tell you that?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Sometimes they say oh , you have more in you, Maybe
physically, but everything elseis shut down have more in you,
maybe physically, but everythingelse is shut down.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I will say your quality of movement is as
excellent as anyone else I'veseen in the gym.
You execute really well and thethings that you work on you
certainly improve on.
I've seen you for the pastcouple of years and the things
that you focus on you reallyhave moved up orders of
magnitude.
I would say what were thebiggest improvements, would you
say, in terms of your trainingand what you've done over the
(04:12):
past year or two?
I know what I think, but I wantto hear what you think.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
So I think I've just learned every day.
I did really well in the Openlast year.
I made it to quarterfinals Lastyear, felt really great and
then throughout the year youstart to fall off, like I think
June, july, my conditioning, myendurance, running I said I need
to do more, I want to get ringmuscle-ups, I want to get you
(04:37):
know better at everything.
So I think training overallwith certain specialties was my
thing, just not what was in theOpen this year.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean because you have pretty much
every skill required, right?
You know how to do ringmuscle-ups, bar muscle-ups,
handstand, walk, like everything.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, I can fight through everything, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So there's nothing that they would throw at you
that you couldn't at least youknow get through some of it
right and yet not that much ofthat was actually tested this
year none right and and I talkedabout this with dave on the
last podcast like you know, it'sthere's a lot of luck involved
in terms of just three workoutsand what you can do with it.
Um, how does it feel?
So, let's, we'll talk about thethree workouts and go through
(05:25):
them, um, a little bit, but Ijust, uh, wanted to ask you
about your feelings.
So you finished the thirdworkout.
Where were you sitting aroundat that point when you, when you
entered your score that weekend?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
On Friday I was like 1%.
Yes, yes, yes, yes yes.
And then, as the weekend wenton, I thinkurday night I was
sitting pretty close.
Um spoke to dave about it andhe's like you.
You need to shave two minutesoff this workout this last one.
I was like I don't think I have10 seconds uh-huh but I'm gonna
try anyway oh so you redid it.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I redid it on sunday, uh-huh.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
And 30 seconds better well that's huge right.
So I thought I had 10.
So, yeah, I was happy that Ipushed myself, but I went into
it knowing there's no, there wasno way I was going to make up
two minutes, but I tried anyway.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Okay, and then where were you sitting when you
entered your score on Sunday andthen like looking at the
leaderboard on Monday?
I think I dropped three percent, or I think I was at I don't
know 282 and went to 683.
It was huge, Wow, Huge.
So when did you know that?
You're like crap, I'm outsidethe cut line.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Probably right before I did the workout.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
No, no, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, monday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It was late.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and how'd youfeel?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Oh it was, yeah, heartbreaking, it's
heartbreaking.
Yeah.
You think that I was hopefulthat all the people that did
worse waited to put their score?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
in yes.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Like maybe they're waiting Probably a little bit of
wishful thinking on that one.
But you know, if HQ recordedhow many times you refresh an
app, I'd probably be number oneRefresh, refresh.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So once you knew you were not, how did you feel about
that?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I was a little let down.
I was kind of frustrated duringthe whole process, thinking my
gosh, I have all these highskill movements.
Why couldn't I just do theburpees?
Why couldn't I just do thelunges, fat and replaying it and
just being hard on myself aboutthe whole process Ruminations,
(07:36):
I can't do anything about it,but that leaderboard kept on
bringing it up.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
How did you feel about your friends who did make
it?
Good, yeah, yeah, no jealousy,I mean why are you flaunting it
on social media and posting allthis stuff?
I didn't even try too hard andI still made it.
That's so awesome.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Right, right.
But like I think you said, likefor me, I look like I'm doing.
You know it's going easy for meand inside I'm struggling you
know as somebody like Mindy, whoI talked to throughout the
whole entire process she wasjust as stressed out as I was,
but she was able to just bringit together and do it and she
was one that I was like.
Just I know she put so muchgrit into it so.
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I was really happy to see yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
That was inspiring to see her do that.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
All right.
Well, hey, let's go through theopen a little bit here.
The first workout, just becausepeople forget and I've already
forgot.
But then I hear about the work.
It's like, oh yes, I remember.
So this one was the 15 minutesright AMRAP three lateral
burpees over dumbbell, threedumbbell hang clean to overheads
, and then the 30-foot walkinglunge, and it was 35 pounds for
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you, Actually, because I wasover 55, it was 35 pounds for me
too.
And it was 35 pounds for you,Actually, because I was over 55,
it was 35 pounds for me too.
That was the biggest thing forme this year is I was over 55.
And so for me not to make thecut line when everything was so
much lighter and easier was sortof a it stung, Even though I
didn't have as much invested as,I think, like you or some of
the more intensively trainingathletes.
So what did you think aboutthis?
(09:02):
Let me see I have your scorehere it was 219, right Seven
rounds 24 burpees over dumbbell,13, dumbbell clean to overhead
to finish out.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
As soon as I heard this one, I knew you knew what
this was not going to be my openReally why you got motor.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
You have a motor though Not that good Really
Apparently.
Yeah, it was tough 2,699.
That's a tough one right, right, no, no sorry, 1,310.
That was it.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah, so that was my worst one.
I think I got caught up in theopen.
I had so much fun.
I did the Friday Night Lights,I did all of that, but as soon
as I was done and it wasn't myscore wasn't in and it's see,
anybody's score.
I just knew I had to do itagain.
And because Well, I messed up.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Oh, what happened.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Right after the burpees yeah.
I lunged.
Oh.
And I got probably like 20 feet.
Oh really.
Before.
I heard Kathleen screaming tome, so I knew right then I had
at least five more reps in meLike I could have gotten
whatever that time differencewas yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I knew I had to do it again.
(10:13):
Yeah.
And I did not want to do moreburpees, but I did it.
I did it again.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
On Sunday, on Sunday, and did you improve?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I did.
I got 10 more reps.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, I was very happy and I did it with.
There was a lot of peopleredoing it.
I think a lot of us did theFriday Night Lights.
We gave it a shot.
We you know had so much fun butultimately it wasn't part of
our training routine.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
One of the things that bugs me, and after this
workout I went.
I am sort of I like I went thisyear I looked at a lot.
You could submit videos withyour score submission and a lot
of people did, especially theones who are not affiliated with
the gym.
That's the only way you canactually register is that you
have to submit your own video ifyou don't have a judge, lunges
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that are just kind of like likenot standing up, you know, not
really jumping over the bar, uhdumbbell, like kind of going
behind, which I have gottencaught in the past and Adam
Ramson has pointed out.
So this year I really tried.
I really tried to jump over thedumbbell, but I feel like it
annoys me, not that even I'mthat invested in it, but I like
look at all these other videosand I'm like, wow, these people
are just not even keeping tostandard and I think overall as
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a gym we find that veryimportant to keep to standard.
How was your judge for this one?
Did they no rep you for any ofthese For either workout?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
First time or second time?
No, she did not.
She tried to keep me doing thereps in the proper order, just
that.
How about you?
How was this workout?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It was, it was 35 pounds, and so I you know, the
issue is is every time you golighter with something, you got
to go faster.
Like there's no excuse, becauseit's lighter, you just have to
do more.
Right, and I'm generally prettygood at dumbbells Like I mean
sorry, burpees, I did get I norep myself actually, because I
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went on the lunge.
I was halfway down and I liketook a little step, like extra
step or something like that, andI looked over at Kayla and she
was like looking at me and I waslike crap, I know I.
So I had to go back and um andrestart it.
So that was one, but I thatreally didn't make enough of a
difference.
I did this was pretty good.
I don't remember exactly what Idid, but I did pretty decent on
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this one and I was like um, butthat happens a lot for me, I do
pretty decent on the first oneand then, like it kind of
excites a little bit, um, okay,so then let's talk about the
second one.
So you knew you were around1300 after the first one and
then you got the second one,which was a time cap 20 minutes
of no sorry time cap 12 minutes.
(12:55):
It was a repeat 22.3,.
21 pull ups, 42 double unders,21 thrusters, 18 chest to bar
pull ups, 36 double undersers,18 thrusters, 15 bar muscle-ups,
30 double-unders, 15 thrustersand the weights for the
thrusters the 21 thrusters wereat 65, then the 18 thrusters
were at 75 and then the 15thrusters were at 85.
Uh, so what do you think?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Right off the bat I knew I was going to do better.
When it first came out, Ididn't have bar muscle-ups, so I
got the 156.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
You know like we were all sitting at that 156.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Right.
And I went into it with suchmaybe a little too much
confidence to my demise, but Idid initially feel really good
about it.
Okay.
And then I did it and thatdidn't feel good.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You got 210 reps.
So how far did you get in thatthat's so.
And that's a fast high break to607.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, so what did I get through?
The bar muscle ups.
And then I think, the secondtime I did it because I did this
one, so you redid this one too.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, so the first time.
What did you not like about it?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So the first time I'm just learning my butterfly,
yeah, so I was able to dobutterfly pull-ups and then I
tried butterfly chest-to-bar andI just smoked out.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Even just three extra inches makes such a difference
on those right, right.
And then the fact that you haveto make sure you're like
contacting, because I feel likeagain I watch videos I was like
these MFers are not touching onthose chest-to-bars at all and
I'm like, come on, you can'tjust go above, you actually have
to touch.
That's what the judgingstandard is.
Yep.
And also these videos areterrible.
I'm sorry I'm just going tocomplain a lot about standards
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in this one, but I saw a loting.
When you're like on a verycompetitive level is very
important.
So you had problems with thebutterfly chest to bars With the
butterfly, but I still got.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I think I still got to the bar muscle-ups and then
the thrusters.
I just didn't have the timeLike.
I had full confidence I couldget through those thrusters.
Okay, so then you're like okay,I got to redo this, yeah.
So then what was your strategy?
Just not doing the butterflies,or what did you do?
(15:09):
So I did butterfly pull-ups andthen kipping, and then my bar
muscle-ups and I still wasfatigued at that point you know.
and then I was able to bang out,I think, like nine thrusters
unbroken, just so I knew I hadmore Again a time thing.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Didn't plan out my time, but you did pretty well.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
736 yeah, I'm so happy with my yeah, yeah and
then.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
So where were you sitting at this point after two?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I was still kind of low.
I was still kind of low.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I needed a lift or a technical workout to be that
last okay, so you were in therunning, but you needed a bump
on that last one to get there.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, so 96, 95, like I was somewhere right there
Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And then the last one was let's see here the time cap
20 minutes.
Five wall walks, 50 cal row.
Five wall walks, 25 deadlifts,wall walks, cleans, wall walks,
snatches, wall walks, row tofinish.
And that was 155 for thedeadlifts, 25 of them.
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85 pounds for the cleans, the25 cleans, and then the 65-pound
snatches, 25 of those.
Tough one really tough.
But you still did better onthis one than the other two.
Actually you did 653rd place.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, yeah.
So it was my best one.
Yeah, and the one I probablywas even more nervous about
because of the row.
I don't think I've ever rowed50 calories on purpose like
exactly Right, yeah, yeah, letalone 100.
Right, during a workout In themiddle of a workout.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Right or finishing a workout right yeah, and you got
1748, which is pretty awesomeyeah, yeah so?
So you said, you redid this oneI did so so, dave, saw you, you
didn't, did you finish thefirst time?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
uh, yeah okay this is the one I needed.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Two more minutes, yes so you finished, but he was
like you got to cut two minutesoff, so you must have finished
like 18 something.
Yeah, yep.
And then you could finish 1748.
Yeah, so what did you dodifferently to cut 30 seconds
off your time?
The third time, the second timeon this third workout.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I don't know, I think I just wanted it more.
Really.
You know, I just I just thoughtI went a little faster on the
first row.
I think the first time I did itI was pulling like an eight to
nine, and this one I was alittle higher up and my snatches
I didn't break up as much.
I don't know why I thought thefirst time I had to break them
up.
If there's something I'mconfident in, it's 65-pound
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snatches.
So I held on to that and thenthat last row.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I just prayed.
What was your split times?
Were you looking at a number tokeep like, oh, let me keep it
over.
Like 500 or 700 or whatever itis?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, I had to, I, I.
Whenever I left off the firstrow, I wanted to start on the
second row.
So I left off like eight 50.
Okay, I wanted to start ateight 50.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Okay, and did you hold that?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
If somebody came over and yelled at me yeah, I pulled
it If nobody was looking, youknow.
But I definitely bought myselfmore time in that workout I had
like I got to the rower 20seconds faster, so somewhere
along the line.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Oh, so you did save probably another 10 seconds in
that.
Wow, that's 10 seconds on a rowis like tremendous.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Thank you, tremendous , I didn't feel it, but you're
right yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
So how was your conditioning this year?
Did you get injured at all?
Were you feeling beat up?
No, everything felt okay.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Everything felt okay.
I mean, funny enough, I wentsnowboarding the weekend before
this last workout.
Oh, and funny enough, I wentsnowboarding the weekend before
this last workout.
Oh wow I came back Monday orSunday night and then redid it.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
So maybe that had something to do with it.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
So you don't actually let the open dictate your life
on every level.
You actually do real stuff inlife.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I feel it's really important for that balance.
I think that first week I waslike open, I got to eat, I got
to work out a certain time andit didn't really help me.
I was being so strict and sostressed out that by the last
week I said, well, this isn'thow I train, something Rafi
taught me.
If you don't train like thisall the time, why do you expect
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something so different?
You can't change everything andexpect different results.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's so true.
So what is it that yougenerally do in your life to
help maximize your training?
Like, do you eat, like what?
Let me delve into the life ofKristen Torres a little bit.
Like, what is your eating?
Like, what is your sleeppatterns?
Like, like, how often do youtrain every day?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Every day, every day, every day.
I take off Sundays typically.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You're usually a 7 amer, right yeah 7 am.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
I do next level so.
I do additional training, whichI fully enjoy, and I do eat
pretty well.
I think I'm pretty good withsticking.
I don't count macros but I havethe eye for it, like I've done
it.
So I keep to that.
I eat a lot of vegetables but Ido go out and I do have fun and
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I go out to eat and I have acouple beers and I don't stress
out too much, too much if I getoff track, but I make sure that
I train and I train to not gethurt.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So what does that mean?
Train not to get hurt.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
So if there are certain days like yesterday, we
had increasing weight inbarbell- yeah.
And my testing is if I feelgood at 95 pounds, which is our
typical workout weight, I can goheavy.
Okay.
If that 95 feels like garbage,i't go heavy, I don't risk it,
especially deadlifts my back, myI um.
(20:45):
So I kind of keep in tune, likeat the beginning of a workout
have you ever had an injurybefore?
I broke my hand on a box jumpoh what?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
how is that possible?
Whoa, did you step on your handor?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
something.
I smacked the edge of the boxwith my hand.
I was working out with a guyand we were supposed to flip and
we didn't flip down to thelower.
So when I used so much force Ibroke my hand.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
And I was in a cast for like six to eight weeks.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Okay, but that's a freak accident.
That's a freak accident.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
But other than that I mean just the regular banged up
stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Wow, so you're very durable.
Yeah, okay, that's prettyimpressive.
Okay, so now you look at you,where you are now, and so what's
going to change, if anything?
At this point it's only been aweek, so it's a little early to
really know, and everything thatmost people I've seen decide to
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do one week after the opendoesn't really stick for 50 more
weeks after.
But what is it that you thinkyou would want to do?
At this point?
You're self-assessing a littlebit.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
So I think for me the time management.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Time management.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Time management.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Really.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, I don't think I have.
I think, talking to Dave duringone of the workouts, I gave him
my rep scheme plans.
Yeah.
And he's like well, where'syour break?
How long is your break?
Yeah.
And I'm like oh, I didn't eventhink about that, I just thought
you know 5, 10, 15 or whatever.
So I think I have to plan mybreaks like in a workout at
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Bison.
We have a planned break.
Yeah.
Like today.
Two minutes on, two minutes off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I couldget right back to it, right?
So if I just plan 10 seconds,15 seconds.
I maybe don't have to take the10 to 15 between each movement.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So I think that's something that I'm going to work
on, be more cognitive of, butstill work on all my skills that
I want to.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Right, yeah, to maintain those, because you've
gotten very, very good at allthat stuff, the high skill stuff
.
So how about your weightnumbers?
Are you happy with what yourlift numbers are at this point?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Ooh, I think I could do more.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Really.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, I love it, but I enjoy it so much that I think
I could push.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, yeah, okay, like which particular movement
do you think you have the mostheadroom for in terms of like
gain?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
My snatch.
I feel like I could do a littlebetter.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
What's your one rep right now?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I think it's 145.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Wow, yeah, okay, and you think you could get what?
Another 510?
Yeah, really.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I hope so.
Wow, yeah, okay, and thenanything overhead, I enjoy, I
just enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
And then anything overhead I just enjoy it Well
you have the mobility Right.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, I should use it .
Speaker 1 (23:25):
So then, how about the motor stuff?
How do you get better at that?
What is that all about?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
You know what it's going to be running.
I think Really it's sodevastating.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
You anticipate you're going to be doing a lot more
running this year.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
You know one of my idols in the sport, ms Karam.
She runs consistently and shecan just.
I think it's twofold she hasthe motor, the engine to get
through it, but it's also aheadspace of being.
You're just running, there's nobreak.
So I'm channeling that becauseshe, you know, somehow she makes
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it seem easy to get through thelong stuff.
For me, a 20-minute workout,forget it.
Give me the five.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
So that's what her secret is?
Oh yeah, because her buildshe's not taller Like, she's
about the same height as you.
Yeah, wow, yeah, she runs likeher rest day is a run.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, what is your next level?
Like additional training,usually include in it similar
stuff or something different.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Similar.
So machine work, a lot ofmachine work, bodybuilding, so
all of that fun stuff,gymnastics, endurance, capacity
I mean my focus was enduranceand capacity, but I also wanted
the fun stuff.
I wanted the ring muscle up.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I wanted the heavier weight.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
So I have a balance of all of that going on.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And how many times a week do you do you do that?
The next level.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Three times Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And what do you do for recovery?
Anything in particular.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I get good sleep.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I get a lot of sleep.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I'm in bed by like eight, eight, 15.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Wow, that's awesome Right.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
How do you do that?
Oh, I wake up at 5 am.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Okay, how do you shut down, like, do you just like
turn off your phone and makesure you don't look at it, or
like, do you have any?
I need some tips about gettingto bed earlier.
I scroll Before you go to bedBefore I go to bed, oh so okay,
I watch a lot of Dateline.
Really that puts you to bed,yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
But I do have TV in my room.
But I make a point to startwinding down.
No eating that late.
I do snack.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Okay, I do snack.
What's your cheat?
What do you enjoy?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
snacking on oh peanut M&Ms, oh, really All day.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That's not bad, is it the amount I eat, maybe?
So, um, why do you do all ofthis?
That?
What you do, do you, like Ithink, you derive joy in just
doing like every time I've seenyou work out, you're actually as
opposed to me happy.
Like you're happy, you know.
(25:58):
Uh, like you bring your own joyinto it every time.
What is it?
Where is that joy coming fromwhen you do this?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I get to do it right.
I see people that I work withfriends, family that don't have
this outlet, that don't either.
They don't want to, they don'tknow that.
Whatever, I get to do thisstuff and I've met amazing
people that's probably most ofit.
And I'm independent, like I'mable to carry my groceries up my
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stairs, I'm able to move myfurniture when I want to, I'm
able to.
You know, if somebody wants togo on a hike, I can do all of
those things, and that's most ofthe reason why is just being
able to do it and seeing howmuch I can push myself.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
You know, age is against you for next year
because you're you're going totop out.
You're 43 this year.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Next year, I think I'm going to be the baby.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
You're going to be.
Oh, do you, do you age up intothe next year?
Because right now I have youlisted at age 43.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
And I'll be 44 in August.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Wait.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
So you're going to be at the very end of the 40 to 44
division next year?
Dang yeah, so you're going tohave to wait another year after
that to age up into the 45division.
See, can you believe it?
This is one of the few timesand I always you know it's
always a running joke that youcan't wait to actually get older
.
Like everything else, you'relike don't get older.
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But in this case and that'stough, like did you feel like
that extra year made adifference?
Or you actually got better inyour conditioning and everything
else?
So it wasn't that, it was justthe workouts didn't really line
up for you this year.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I think, yeah, I guess I am a little older, my
life is drastically differentthan it was last year, the year
before, yeah, and these workoutswere not in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, but I think you're actually a better athlete
, like you're more capable thisyear than you were last year,
which is kind of amazing because, like I said, anyone over the
age of 40, I guess you know I'vesort of rethought where you
start to decline in terms of,like, actual physical numbers,
and it's got to be over 44,because I still see people in
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the 40 to 44 range likeimproving their lift numbers,
improving their cardiac capacityand improving their overall you
know, I mean everyone canimprove their skill set to like
on complex movements, even older, I mean.
I think that that's notsomething that changes.
I think it's just hardersometimes but there is a certain
level at which, like you can'tsqueeze more juice out of that
(28:32):
lemon in terms of musclestrength or aerobic capacity.
So you're still making thosegains and you just told me you
still think you have more in youin terms of like increasing
that.
So, even though you're going tobe at the top of the age
division next year, you probablyagain, if things line up, have
another shot.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, if I can stay within the 10 percentile for the
individual group, like thatmeans I can hold my own with
these young spring chickens, soI'm not too upset Some of them
could be my, my kids, right.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Do you think it was fair that they made a two
percent this year?
Speaker 3 (29:10):
For me personally, because I didn't make it.
No, absolutely not, but I thinkit's too much of a jump, I
think it was just too much of a,you know, from 25% you had a
bigger crew feeling really goodto like barely anybody making it
, and we didn't find out untillater on.
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I don't know if that would havereally changed my training but
we didn't find out until alittle bit later.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, it was pretty close to the open season when we
found out out where the cutlines were going to be for this.
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Right, how did you do last yearin the quarters?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I think I did pretty well, very well, I think it was
still.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah 621 and yeah no 413, actually, which is pretty
amazing.
So when they let you play withall the heavyweights and the
skill stuff, you get to cutloose a little bit.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, that's my wheelhouse, the regular good old
burpees.
No.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
You know it's kind of crazy Listening to you now.
I came in having very littleexpectation or, honestly, joy
coming into the.
You know it's been.
Unlike you, I'm not quite asdurable and I'm always fighting
this, that or the other thing,and so I know I have to work out
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because it makes me healthier.
I really enjoy the community.
I've put so much in like listenI've.
I feel like I've been whereyou've been, uh, five years ago
for sure, you know and uh.
But after a while, you, you knowyou have ups and downs and
probably it's a little bit of adown in terms of like getting
joy out of it.
And um, especially when you seepeople get injured or you
(30:56):
yourself get injured and you'relike, oh man, like just chasing
that, is that really worth it?
But the approach that you havein terms of taking joy from that
performance, from reallystriving to excel not because
anyone else is, and I think evenif you weren't close to the cut
line, you would still be takingjoy from every workout that you
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do.
It is a little more fun whenyou have your friends competing
very close.
You know who are high level orcompeting with you and all that.
But even if you didn't, like Idon't think, um, had you made
semis, uh, you would be likefive orders of magnitude happier
, like you are happy with whatyou do.
(31:40):
You're talking about today'sworkout like all of it, like
every day is a joy for you andso just getting that is like
this is a little bit of icing onthe cake.
It gives you something tostrive for, gives you something
to focus on, but it's I don'tnecessarily think that that
would be the end, all or be all,like it is for some people here
.
Yeah.
And, and I think that that's avery healthy attitude, maybe
(32:02):
certainly healthier than myattitude.
You know it was funny because Iwill say I was.
I didn't, I know, for everyworkout I didn't give it all my
juice.
And I had a couple differentreasons and they were all like
very reasonable reasons, like Idon't want to get injured, I
just want to make sure I get agood workout in and all that,
and that's totally fine.
(32:23):
But I I always feel like I lefta little something on the table
, especially because they werelighter.
I was doing jumping, pull-ups,stuff like that, and when I
finished out I was around 165ish and I was like, oh yeah, not
a problem, I made it again soeasy, like listen, this is like
a cakewalk, like I've done itevery year, like this is just, I
(32:45):
don't even have to try and I'mstill doing it.
And then on Monday, after thecut line comes out, I'm like 209
and I'm like holy cow, Itotally missed it.
And I was like whoa, this iscrazy.
Uh, and I had some mixedfeelings because I didn't really
put much into it, but on theother hand, it still like
(33:06):
doesn't feel awesome, especiallywhen you're so self-satisfied
and feeling like, oh, I can dothis all the time, like I don't
even have to try, I can do this.
And then it just felt terrible.
And then I was like wait asecond.
But you didn't like, what didyou expect?
You didn't deserve, like youdidn't really put what you could
into it, uh, so it's kind of aweird, like kind of mixed
(33:26):
feelings on that one.
And then I was like, but shouldI have put more in?
Like you know, I mean, it's a,it's a year process, like it
really is, like you have tostart and like continue, like
you said, in june, in august, inseptember, like I've been there
for all of it.
And I was like you know, Idon't know, like maybe I'm,
maybe I'm a little bit of adifferent level, I don't know.
(33:47):
And then today I just checked,like yesterday I was at 204 and
today I'm at 202, and so I'mlike it's so weird, right,
because I know on my level, likethe people I think they are
going through and looking atthese video submissions, and
like not good, not good, notgood, not good.
So I was kind of like all right, so what does that feel like if
(34:09):
I actually got under 200?
Which I don't think so.
It's already Thursday and so Ithink they've probably finalized
all the standings pretty close.
But I was like then, what do Ido?
And I was like you know thenwhat do I do?
And I was like you know what?
Actually, this is kind ofperfect.
Like I'm so close, I did it.
You know what I could do forwhere I was, but now I don't
have to like kill myself for thesame time.
(34:31):
So like that's, like that's,you know.
I think Britt Arcee, I think, orsomeone like her, said the same
thing.
Like I want to do just wellenough, but not make it to the
depth, so I don't have to domore working out.
I don't know if I feel I'm justsaying I feel mixed about the
whole thing, but like listeningto you today and talking to you,
(34:54):
I feel like I have more juice.
I can certainly do better interms of like taking joy from
every workout.
Like I think that's the keyEvery workout you do you take
joy from, and then that likehelps drive you, and then when
there's something like this,which is special, like you said,
friday Night Lights and beingwith your friends, and I'm so
(35:17):
impressed that you redid everyworkout.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Is it impressive.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Do you, and you improved on every one, which is
really unusual.
Yeah, and not just by a little,by, like a lot A decent amount.
So what does that tell youabout?
Like maybe you shouldn't doFriday Night Lights and you need
to just like sort of gear upand like max out on that.
First, one.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah, I think, staying with my schedule,
because that's's what I enjoydoing right right, that's the
schedule I like right and it'sthe one that I, you know, thrive
the most off of right.
So I've learned that.
And, um, yeah, because I just,I just want to do workouts once,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I don't want to do them twice, right, that's.
I mean, you have the capacity,but why?
Why do it twice when you coulddo it once and do it like really
really well.
Yeah, yeah, really well.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Next time.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Is that what you're going to do next?
Speaker 3 (36:04):
year?
I hope so.
I think last year I only didone workout twice and it was one
of those like as soon as you'redone, like before I even know
what the score is, I'm like, no,I didn't do it good, I didn't
do it right.
Right.
Like I just knew right away.
Right right right.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
But the others you were like yeah, that was my best
effort, yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, especially that last one, that 50 Cal row at
the end.
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
What were you thinking at the time?
Did you have people thereyelling at you or did you just
like, did you close your eyes?
I closed my eyes, really.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah, I closed my eyes the second time.
There was more people.
The McKinney's were there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they weresaying all types of things.
They were breathing all typesof ways.
I don't know what was happening.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Do you try to pull harder and slower?
Do you try to pull faster andwhen?
Do you send it Like a minuteleft?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Oh, no, like 10 seconds.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Oh, so you give yourself 10 seconds to max
effort.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Pretty much.
I don't know if I have it.
That was the hardest I thinkI've ever rode in my life.
To be like.
I don't think I'll forget thatWow.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Ever, yeah, that's impressive.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
That was the most painful part of it right there,
it was the most painful, andthat's what I've been training
on is the row.
It was painful.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
What kind of advice would you give anybody who just
missed the cut line, who hasfeeling not awesome about it,
who feels like you know this isimportant for them and we all
choose what is important to us.
It could be breaking 80 on agolf course, it could be skiing
a double black diamond, it couldbe whatever.
(37:35):
They're all frivolous andimportant at the same time.
It really doesn't matter whatgoals you set.
They're important when you setthem.
And so when you said it likeyou know what, I think I can do
this, I want to do it and Ididn't do it.
Like what is the advice youwould give?
Speaker 3 (37:52):
So I think, thinking back of the support that the
girls that did make it they werethere the whole time, you know
kind of talking through stuff soI was upset and whatever it got
through it.
But I think now I'm gonna justhope that the semis are in my
wheelhouse and I'll work outbeside them and push them to do
(38:14):
better to.
Maybe if there's a heavy liftor if there's something super
technical, I would love to bethat pace setter for them.
So I didn't and I'll do itwithout stress.
I won't be watching thatleaderboard for myself, but for
them.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
That's so awesome.
So the advice is to just keepin it, keep in it, keep
supporting your friends, thepeople who have supported you.
Keep supporting them, and it isreciprocal.
You have to have the people whohave supported you and give
back to them, and that makes itbetter for you.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
That's like a fuller experience for you, right and
imagine doing it alone likethese, workouts are probably not
going to be easy and if they'restuck doing it, hopefully not
by themselves.
I know I can offer that now andsee if I would have, if I would
have crushed it.
That's right.
Darn.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I mean, yeah, I know, wow, I would have been like
exactly.
So that's good, like you cansort of see where you would have
actually been and, and I betyou that when the semis come out
you're going to, it's going tobe all in your wheelhouse, I
have a feeling.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Right, I can't wait to watch, right.
So that's why you can't juststop.
I think you'd have to say, okay, let's, let's keep going.
It just wasn't, it wasn't forme, but it's going to be
eventually.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
I love that.
Yeah, kristen, thank you somuch.
You've gotten.
You give me a lot for and goodluck you too.
Two spots.
I got what I deserved, let'sjust put it that way, and that's
a good lesson for me too.
Thank you so much, kristen.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Thank you.
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