Tell the Truth: Louisville

This week we Tell the Truth about the Hokies loss at home to the Louisville Cardinals. While the Hokies showed heart throughout, inconsistent play and ill-timed mistakes ultimately doomed the Hokies upset bid as Louisville handled Virginia Tech in the second half. We also dive further into the James Franklin flirtations and make our Big Screeners picks of the week.

Episode Transcript

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busy studying Shelton. I don't know.
I just think they just like randomly e-mail Shelton like on
Sunday night and say, what are you doing on Tuesday?
OK, could you do this? Basically.
I mean, basically, what's going on?

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Have you been, brother? Man, it's been a fun week so
far. It's been a fun week.
You know, unfortunately my my Colts took a a tough loss to the
Steelers. I've I've had to hear about that
a little bit this week. Oh yeah, you know that that
happens when you turn the ball over six times.
Having a -5 ratio there is not the way to to win a football

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game. But I mean it it it took that
level of catastrophe to lose by 1 touchdown.
So I guess you can kind of chalkthat up to and we'll get them
next week. That's the only thing you can
do. And then your boys make the
maybe the biggest play, maybe the biggest play.

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What's going on? Kent from Halifax, go out and
get Sauce Gardner shrimp secondary.
Give up two ones now. Yeah, and and Donny Mitchell, so
I mean, we didn't, you know, notfor nothing, but at the same
time, yeah, you got to spend money to make money sometimes.
So at this point, you know, we, we needed some help at at that

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position. I think that's going to be a
big, big boost for us. I think, you know, Mitchell had
some I, I was actually more shocked to lose Mitchell than I
was the two first on this deal. But you know what?
I we, we've got enough depth at wide receiver at this point, at
least for the frontline perspective.

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But it would be nice to see whatMitchell could do as he
developed more in this system. But you know what?
Let's try to win one this year, yeah?
OK, that's that's the goal, huh?Danny Dimes on the cheap.
You know what man? I mean, at this point, you know,
you, you get Danny Dimes on the cheap.

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You've you had a pretty decent roster rolling into this year,
but you had so many question marks, especially at the most
important position. And all of a sudden it's like,
OK, well, we, we look pretty good there.
You know, let's, let's turn it up to 11 and see what it see
what happens. Do you think I'll pay him
significant money because it's aone year deal, right?
Yeah, at this point, I don't know.

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I don't know. I don't know if we, you know,
try, you know, depending on whathappens this year, if we try to
throw a franchise tag on him or something, you know, try to try
to play it out a little bit longer and then, you know, let
it ride and see, see, see if we can get some consistency out of
him. Because what I don't want to
happen is what happened in New York, where you ended up, you

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know, paid a lot of money. And yeah, you paid a lot of
money. And all of a sudden it's like,
wait a second. Not the same guy.
You don't look like the same guywith without Saquon back there
so. 100 percent, 100% Well, we we shall see halfway through the
NFL season and you know, we are now in the home stretch of the

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college football season while inthe infancy of college
basketball season. We are going to talk about the
game last night, which I actually watched almost 70% of
that game. I watched Significant and you
did too because you were you watched a little.
I watched. I watched pretty much all of it,
yeah. Good for you.

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I watched 70%. I was proud of myself.
What I missed, and we'll talk about it later, is the big run
because I had to leave at halftime, put a kid to bed and
then come back and it's like, oh, I don't know, might as well
finish watching it. But oh shit, OK.
But we are here to tell the truth Tuesday.
We'll, we'll tell the truth about basketball and some other
things later, but we do have to start with what happened on

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Saturday afternoon in Lane Stadium as the Louisville
Cardinals, not to our surprise, take care of the Hokies 2816.
Unfortunately, and you know, we always tell the truth, We do the
good, the bad, the ugly, the unexpected.
So I got to say, Brian, to me, what went well was for the

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longest time, it seemed like ourstarts had been slow and it
wasn't Saturday, the opening drive was, but then the rest of
the first quarter was really positive for the team.
Yeah. I mean, you, you came out, you,
you felt pretty good about the way they kind of set the tone.
You know, it was one of those games that even as things

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started to kind of turn for us, it never felt like we were out
of it. We felt like if we could just
get just a little push, just a little bit here, just a little
bit there, we might be able to get back into this thing.
But getting a fast start is important.
You know, we've we've seen and Iknow we're we're past the Pryor
at this point, but this is stilla pry developed teams and we've

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seen when when prize teams have started fast, they've had a lot
of success. Yeah.
Not the fastest, not the fastestby any means, but just saying
what we've dealt with. Considering the the way that
both offense and defense have started the games most of this
year, yeah, it was good. It was good to really kind of
assert yourself early and feel like you kind of controlled the

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way the game was going to flow, at least in the first half.
Especially after they literally run 2 plays and score a
touchdown because that happened.My first thought was, well I
might be able to go do somethingat halftime.
That was my first thought. Then they flip it, get the pick,
tie the game up and you know, and that felt good.

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And then, you know, just say it,say, say what happened after the
touchdown. We don't want to talk about it,
man. We don't want to talk about it.
The block punt, the block punt happened after the touchdown and
get you get you another lead andthen take a lead by 9 by half

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and and it felt good. But were you like me while
watching it? And maybe folks in the chat were
like, I was just waiting for theother shoe to drop because
Louisville shown all year that they're a good team and you're
just waiting for it and waiting for it.
And eventually it did. I, I was sitting back and I was
like, all right, well, the defense is doing what they need

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to do. We've had a, you know, one big
play that kind of turned the tide a little bit.
Are we going to be able to hold on?
That was basically what I was, Iwas looking at, Can we hold on?
Can we do just enough offensively to hold on?
I was, I was definitely concerned that we hadn't shown a

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lot of consistency with being able to move the football down
the field even when we were getting some points on the
board. So I was, I was definitely
concerned that there was going to be.
Yeah, I was. I was hoping that a second-half
adjustment with, you know, correct some of the things
offensively that we were struggling with and
unfortunately, it just got worsefrom there.

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Yeah, it was basically a we, we it was, it was the second-half
just bad, bad like you know thatthere was the bad, there was the
over the top. I I don't.
Know. You know what?

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I I can sense him, yeah. Sense him, but the the whole
thing was with the with the the bad was with the offense.
It just nothing ever happened. And then you had the one chance
and the break happens. And that was just, Oh yeah, it

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was just like. I mean, that's a touchdown.
You still bring that in, man. Oh my God, Eight to 10 yards of
separation on it, stoink right off top of the helmet, and then
it goes. And then you know what else went
bad? Well, me and you, me and you
talked about it, message back and forth and, and other people
on there too, Tally Shelton and a couple other folks.

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And literally this game was effectively like 4 plays, 4
plays. And people can sit up here and
say, no, that's not the way football works.
When you give up a 60 yard touchdown, you have a 60 plus
yard punt return that put them inside the five and then 220
plus touchdowns like explosive plays were the game.

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They did not consistently Dr. the field.
Soup to Nuts 1012 Play Drive. Yeah, they they didn't do a
whole lot outside of their explosives.
They really were leaning on the big plays, the the turning point
plays. And if you take away those, I

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mean, we're going to talk about in a second because I talked
about it this morning on offense, we were 3.8 yards per
play. On the flip side of that, if you
take away those explosives, Louisville was about the same.
They weren't much better than that.
So it's one of those things where as bad as our offense were

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was the difference is is that they made the plays when they
were there and we didn't. That was it.
They made the big ones, you know, we missed the big one.
Now you still do the math. That doesn't mean we win the
game, but at least it take changes momentum.
Well, it changes momentum and itputs you in a position where if
you make that play, the, the calculus of how you are running

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your offense and what you need to do to get the lead at the end
of the game shifts. So the, the, the way that your
scheme and the way that you're calling, the way that you're
operating is going to be a little bit different.
And it gives you the ability to be a little more balanced in
your attack and not feel like you got to get it all in a
handful of plays like we had to do at the end there.

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Yeah, but the other, the bad thing, you mentioned yards per
play, but passing, the passing offense was just not good at
all. I mean.
No bad. You know, we talked about it.
I mean, the yardage is bad enough. 76 yards total.
You look at the leading receiverfor the Virginia Tech Hokies.

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One reception, 17 yards by AidanGreen.
Yikes. Under under 50% pass completion
and it's like and, and, and, andI think the majority of that is
comes in the second-half when you're when they get down and
they you have to pass. You know, the, the one thing I,

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I will say, I don't know if you want to put this bad whatever,
at least the last three to four games, we know our identity and
we've stuck to it and we've stuck to it and we've kept
ourselves in games. Maybe give Philip Montgomery a
little credit on that. But I mean, you're, you're,

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you're not going to win a lot ofgames in this area of college
football throwing the ball like that.
Well, I think the problem is that we've seen that we go as
Kyron goes and Kyron goes as theopponent changes, as the wind
blows it. It's it's really, you know, the,
the inconsistency of the play I think has been something that

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it's hard to really put a fingeron.
I mean, we know that he is definitely more of a run first
quarterback. I mean, before, before we get
anywhere else, but he's had games where his passing has not
hurt us and then he's had a lot of games where it has hurt us.
And this was one of those games where his passing struggles, his

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inconsistencies, his struggles with footwork absolutely burned
us to a point where we just couldn't muster enough offense
to help out how well our defenseplayed.
Honestly, I mean outside of thatreally the one big play to start
things off there and it wasn't a, you know, I don't really have

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a whole lot of complaints about their effort for.
Four quarters. No, the, the defensive game plan
was the right game plan. And I mean the, the, the, and
it's like I said after the firsttouchdown, it was like, this is
going to be bad, bad. But then the adjustments were
made and it took them a while toreadjust to it.

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And then, well, we can't go fullservice Academy, Jim.
We don't have the players to do that.
You know, we have a coach that could teach it, but I don't
think we can fully do that. And you know, chop blocks suck.
So. But yeah, as far as Kyron go,
yeah, you're 100% right. And it's always never about

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yards, but more about efficiency, because his biggest
game this year outside of the Wofford game was.
Ken, is that a typo or is that atype of party I should go to?
Yeah, I'm about to say I went toa wedding party in Halifax and
lived there many years of my life.
But but it's the truth. The team, his passing goes as we

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go. So yeah, let's move on to what
we weren't prepared for. And somebody threw it up on
there. I was not prepared to see Jeff
Overton at all this season and it was good seeing him.
He got a few carries. I will say one thing that it's
very noticeable. No disrespect to Hawkins or

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Bully that one run for four in like the explosive that when he
got into that inside zone, that looked different.
And I know you responded and youwere like, yeah, but Overton
looked different. No disrespect to those guys, but
he looked different with that one cut upfield and it was just

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like he got tackled 4 yards up field.
But it was just like how quick he hit the hole was different.
Yeah, you're seeing that one cutexplosiveness that you like to
see in this type of offense. And I mean, I think Hawkins has
a little bit of that, but he doesn't quite have that extra
gear that I think we saw with Overton just being able to
explode through the hole there. Yeah, it's going to be exciting

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to see how much he's going to get into the game as, as we kind
of move through the rest of the season, whether that's, you
know, him wanting to get out there and and contribute and,
you know, for all intents and purposes, probably put some tape
out there for folks depending on, you know, what decisions he
makes at the end of this season.It's going to be interesting.

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It is going to be interesting asfar as what can you do better
moving forward. I mean, I think we're at the
point now where we are where we are.
The only thing I ask is if the defense, the next three games
can play to the level they played with.
We have a puncher's chance to beat the next three teams.

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We really do. Yeah.
But we also if they play slightly below, it could be
bloodbath. And when I say that, get
whatever bottle, beer, wine, whatever you like, keep it near
because you're probably going toneed it.
I mean, if we're. If we're looking at the, you
know, prognosticating out another week, it could be the

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most inconsistent playing match up of the year when we, when we
match up with the, with the Seminoles, man, because that's,
that's another team that goes the way their quarterback goes
and the quarterback also goes the way of the wind.
So it's, it's, it's certainly something that's going to be

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interesting to watch in a, in a,in a couple weeks here.
You know what, it's going to be a, a really interesting thing to
watch, help teams defend US going forward.
Because I mean, when you look atthis game, Louisville, it looked
like their game plan was we're going to make Kyron beat us,

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whether it's with his legs or with his arm, we're going to
make Kyron beat us. And Kyron had one of those games
where it was an inconsistent game for him.
And it showed in the way the offensive numbers stacked up.
They were kind of selling out tostop the run with the running
back. They they, they, they were like,
we're not going to let the running backs beat us.
If Kyron beats us, Kyron beats us.

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And he, you know, Kyron did wentout there and ran the ball
pretty well overall, But we wereso inconsistent passing the ball
and nobody else was getting super involved in the running
game because of their scheme. And now all of a sudden, you
know, Kyron's got to do a littlebit more than he probably wants
to with his arm and, and was just not having a good day.
Just for my eyeballs, I don't think I think I saw the safeties

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in the picture every snap. I don't think they ever played
back in any situation. And that that says a lot because
it sounds like basically data chose to play what safety spy
man across the board like, OK, beat us.
And you're not going to beat us.And they're a well coached team.

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Clearly they're Jeff Bronson arerunning for some Tier one jobs.
Louisville has really had Kyron's number 2 if we think
about it. Oh God, 34 going back.
To even going back to 23, man, when Kyron was having a, you
know, one of his better years, obviously, Yeah, that was his
weakest outing of the entire season.

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And, you know, this outing this past week was probably at least
in his, you know, bottom two to three, if not his worst outing.
Oh. Man as a quarterback.
So, oh, you want to know that game worse than this game?
12 for 2169 yards, one pick, 6 yards rushing.
Yeah, the point has been made instamp.

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So. Yeah.
So anything else to put a bow onthis one, Brian?
Because I mean, it wasn't listen, I'll say this.
It was a fun game to watch from our perspective, at least from
our perspective it. It was it was fun and
frustrating so, well, they're. Always frustrating.
But I'll, but I'll caveat that because I think in my mind like,

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so I, I'm like a y'all know at this point that I'm cautiously
optimistic person that that's, that's my MO cautiously
optimistic. When you go in and you play
pretty well for the first half, you get, you get me invested
just enough where you can tear my heart out again every time I

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can, you know, if, if I go in there and I'm like, all right,
well, we're losing, but it is what it is all good.
But they wrote me back in just enough, especially with the way
the defense was playing overall.And then, you know, the wheels
fall off in the third quarter and next thing you know, we're,
you know, we're taking that L pretty hard.

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Yeah. So that that was frustrating for
me. But at the same time, there was
a lot of exciting plays that happened within the game.
Oh, yeah. And it was an interesting chess
match to watch those defensive coordinators dial stuff up to
keep those offenses in check. Yeah, 100%.
So there it is. Pokey's fall to three and six on

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the season, but met my expectations, so yeah.
And put up what Steven just put up there.
Which one? This one.
Last one and they're still fun. They have not put to the credit
of the coaching staff give a lotof credit to Montgomery on that,

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especially after like you said, after ODU.
And then I think Kyle, I can't remember if he said it on here,
if he just texted it to me or you or to us.
If my are we at 5:00 and 4:00 or6:00 and 3:00 if Phillip?
Montgomery is the coach. Maybe couldn't be worse.

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I mean, I think you, you know, you probably, you probably
scraped by South Carolina if Phillip Montgomery is the coach
at the gate. Vanderbilt's the interesting one
because a 10 point league, who knows we that's it's the old
what if scenario. So we'll just let it stay there,
Brian. If not, we're here 3 hours

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tonight going crazy. All right, let's flip it.
Let's talk about the basketball game last night.
The season has begun and although we don't do basketball
all the time, we watch the games.
If anyone's ever interested in hosting a basketball podcast,
reach out to us. We will more if you if you show

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the interest has some credibility.
You might have yourself a podcast show throughout three
corner. But it was fun watching that
game last night Brian just in general to see the new pieces to
see Hansberry obviously Neo and some of the other guys in there.

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He is texting me all about it this morning.
But it it, it felt different. Even though at halftime it
seemed like, Oh my God, because that been the story of to me,
the last like 3 and four years of hokey tip off games.
It's like, Oh my God, are we really going to lose to this

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team? And they pull away near the end
and it'd be OK. But last night even with that,
it was me and he were chatting. Charleston Southern was shooting
60% from three. And it wasn't bad defense.
They were just making everythingwhere it was like, hey, I'm you
know what? They're hitting some
unbelievable contested shots. I'd like seeing a little bit

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better perimeter D, but it's notatrocious like we've seen in the
past. And then I'm unfortunately
having to put a kid to bed at halftime and I'll walk back and
it's like 19 point lead, like 3 minutes.
Yeah. The, the points are coming fast
and furious. You know, defense stepped up.
They, they locked him down to start the second-half.

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And you know, some of those 3 pointers that that we were
missing in the first half started to drop as well.
I mean, when you go, I think, I think we finished the first half
something like 16 or 17% from three and then finished 32% for
the night. So I mean, there was a big shift
in the second-half and obviouslythey came back down to earth on
the other side in the second-half as well, finishing
the night like 35 1/2 or something like that.

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They came with, they came down to the more average and I knew I
texted you and said, you know, if they were just shooting
average from three, this would be a 13 point game.
Oh, it was literally the threes that we're keeping the minute.
I mean, you know, when when you looked at at the the field goal
percentage, we had the advantage.
But you know, they were hitting almost all their threes.
So there you go. Should have told Phil just come

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on to 9. He could have gave us full recap
but tell me impressions in the first time, live on the court
and everything. What was your impression to him,
just in general? It's so cool seeing Virginia
Tech with the big guard. I'm just, I'm not, I'm not used
to it having having a guy that can facilitate, get his own

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shot, the effective shooter. It's it, it's going to be
interesting watching how he develops and how he starts being
a little bit more probably aggressive offensively with
getting his own shot and, and, and things like that.
But I mean, in, in terms of facilitating the offense,
running the offense, I mean, it was, it was Chris, man, I was, I

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was really excited to see him out there.
Yeah, the, the, the one thing I say, and I've, I've mentioned
this, I know I mentioned it to Phil today in a text, was him a
somebody mentioned it and it wastrue.
He was looking to distribute last night.
Yeah. And he got 8 assists with eight
points. He did not have the best of
shooting games, but they were just a oh, excuse me, I missed

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an assist there, man assist. But there were two plays that
vividly remember watching. The first was pretty early when
he sort of just decided he was going to take the ball to the
rack and there was no one that was going to stop him.

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And that when he did that, he made that layup.
It was like we always have talked about it.
Tally always has talked about it.
Even Sheldon has always talked about we never had that guy to
just you know what, they're on a10 nothing run or they're on a 5
nothing run. They cut it to one.
We need a bucket. Go make a bucket.
That little move where he, it was a layup and then

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second-half, he didn't need to do this.
We're up like 26. He makes a move in and freaking
hits a step back, fade away and you just look at it and it was
just like that guy had absolutely no shot to, to stop
his, to stop that shot having that's exciting with him.
Now what I'll say is Toby Lawalland Hansberry, man, it feels

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good having guys get 2 guys get double digit.
Double digit rebounds, Hansberrywith 19, Lawal with 20.
You know, you look at the first half, you might want Toby to be
a little more efficient with hisshot selection.
But like I've got you know, we we finally have a you got a

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dynamic perimeter player, you got a dynamic front court
player. I mean, players now, I think I
feel like we're we're finally a roster that feels complete,
complete front to front to bottom, Yeah.
Yeah, and and then and then bench help too.
I mean, well, first of all, the Toby the wall alley oop early in
the game, Good Lord, I think, I don't know who threw that

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assist, but I felt like it was about 3 feet back here, a little
bit too far back, but Toby and his bunnies just up and got it.
But the other part in in in kindof knowing the players coming
off the bench, you know, with a big guy like Gerdek coming off
the bench and Shoot coming off the bench where he should be

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coming off the bench and Ben Hammond knowing that you have
those type of players that can come off the bench.
A nice eight man rotation. I know a couple other guys got
playing time, but in in my opinion, the five starters with
Gerdek, Hammond and Shoot are going to be the core 8.
If somebody else develops and can get you 10 off the bench for

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defense, rebound, whatever, wonderful.
But I think just having known guys and you know what they can
do off a bench, it's just so nice to have because when Ben
Hammond come off the bench and did what he did, drop, what do
you have like 7-8 points, 9 points last night.
That's that's so refreshing. And I know it's Charleston

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Southern, everybody. And I know I'm trying not to get
my hopes up, but it's like in the past, it's not been that
way. Yep, it's not been that.
Way it it, it hasn't been where you can go to 3 or 4 deep off
the bench and feel really good about it.
And I feel like they've got 4 bench players that they feel
pretty good about. And then on top of that, you've

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raised the baseline of your starting five as well.
Yeah. I mean that that that's big
time, man. I mean, you got guys that were
playing super meaningful minuteslast year and you know, they're,
you know, a bench piece and it'sstill a solid bench piece, but
you know, you, you've raised the, the floor and the ceiling

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of what this basketball team canbe. 100% and again, it's a
pretty big temple. Guys coming off the bench are
pretty young guys. Oh, so hold on, there's a name
here. Feels just throughout Dorn.
Antonio Dorn. Did he didn't play last night?

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He did not. All right, to Phil text me and
educate me, Phil on this kid. But the I love again, I text to
Phil occasionally about stuff and the next few games are going
to tell a lot about the team. I mean because you know you've
got Saturday. It's going to be Providence.

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Providence are what they are. You know it it seems like
forever. It's Providence is always put
good teams out there in the Big East and then going and looking
down after that. Saint Joe's.
Saint Joe's I know have been sort of on a roller coaster ride
feels like the last 15 years. OK.
He's a German and he's suspended.

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Yeah. What else is new?
It's always somebody on the basketball team that's getting
something's happening and screwing things up.
You know, gambling, just leavingschool just for the hell of it.
But but, but really, so Providence, Saint Joe's and then
you get to Charlotte Bryant. But Atlantis is going to be big.

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I think regardless what the record is, I think this team is
going to be tested enough for Mike Young to know the exact
rotations, who he can trust, whowe can't trust, etcetera,
etcetera before we get into December.
That's just the feel of it because we're going to be
playing roughly 454 to five teams that are going to be good.

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And I think that's also been an issue, even though we've gotten
some wins over the last few years leading up to ACC play.
It's like they're games where he's you've got to try it and it
looks like it looks like this kind of worked.
And then we get an AC should be like, oh God, this this fuck
terrible. What are we supposed to do here?

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Well, I think the big the big thing too is that one thing we
don't have to worry about this year that we've had to worry
about really the last 3-4 years.I mean, some of that's not our
not out, you know, outside of our control with all the shit
that's happened with our point guard position.
But we've got a point guard thatmatches up with any guard in the

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ACC. So when you get into that type
of play, you at least know, you know, you're not rolling out
this undersized 6 foot nothing point guard with the with the
smaller wingspan that's going tostruggle against those longer
guards in the ACC. You're not going to have that
this year. And a big that can shoot.
Yeah, A. Couple bigs that can shoot.

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So it's it's we'll see if I meanit.
I don't have, by the way, the game's on Peacock Saturday,
everybody not at ESPN. So if you well, I can't, there's
some good programming on Peacock.
I don't buy it because I got everything else under the sun.
So maybe listen to the radio version.

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Subscribe to the Cock Curtis. Oh man, I got so many damn
streaming subscriptions. It's not funny.
And one's not YouTube. I'm not missing anything on
ESPN, so for those who do, that was a shit show this weekend.
Yeah, man, they they found a wayto piss off.

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So many people. So many people and, and I mean,
you know, you can, you can pointfingers all you want to I think
you know, both of them have a role in it here.
Oh fuck yeah. Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
Both of them have a significant role in it and it's just the way
of the world. It's just I this is the first
time we ever saw it affect something.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, there's no, there's no
good guys in this shit. They're all assholes.
They're all, they're all just, you know, they want to get
theirs and they don't give a shit about the customers on
either side of the coin there. No, they don't do it at all.
So, yeah, all righty. So there's that.
Sometimes we can roll right through when things aren't not

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interesting per SE. But so, Brian.
I think I know what you're goingto ask me next.
I've got a good idea. Well, the the question is, is do
we do you think we have our nexthead football coach?

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I think we have our next head football coach if that coach
wants to sign on the dotted line.
I think we have done all that wecan do from a offer standpoint
to make this a job that that coach could and should take.

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The question is, does that coachand his agent think that there
are better opportunities available for them elsewhere as
the coaching carousel rages on? Well, and, and everybody had to

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be thinking about it because this thing started floating out
there last week in and over the weekend.
And then Auburn opens up Sunday.I don't think Auburn wants it.
I don't think LSU wants it. I don't think Florida wants.
I think Arkansas does, but I don't think he's going to go to
Arkansas, so. And then you got whatever the

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fuck might or might not be goingon at Florida State.
OK, we've had the Florida State discussion and I'm going to say
it aloud. I may have said it in the past.
If Florida State fires Mike Norvell and gives Franklin the
amount of money we think they'd have to give him to land there,
they're going to have a few years of their NIL is going to

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be about half assed. Maryland's not open Phil.
It was a scam from somebody and I don't think he goes to
Maryland. I wouldn't go to Maryland.
I wouldn't go to Maryland. The only thing good about
Maryland is that the proximity to two of the nearest target, or
so I've been told. Well, the other thing about

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Maryland is so you're going backinto the Big 10 and now you're
like the 13th best team, not the4th.
And their budget ain't there, their facilities ain't there.
You can say what you want to sayabout it.
I only he goes to Maryland. I think you soon, maybe.

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I mean hold on, this is where this is fun.
This is why I like talking rightnow.
Yeah, I don't. I don't think Maryland matters
regardless, but it certainly doesn't matter right now because
it's not an available job and I don't think they are savvy
enough to start floating stuff out there with a potential hire

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until they've at least established what it's going to
cost them to get out of where they're at and what what funds
they would have to package together after the fact.
There you go, Carolyn's broke and they would owe lastly Justin
right at 13.5 million for about.So yeah, the coach in waiting

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and then he leaves and then theyfire fridge and fridges, the
mentor and everything. But you know, obviously
everybody's reading reports, everybody's seeing things about
what's going on. And the whole question is, it
seems like a, you know, we all question the committee like is

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this the right way to go? I think they've hit it pretty
spot on because I also think floating like this, like
everything that's floating out there.
Any if, if he leaves us at the fucking altar, which is
possible, I, you know, I'm a pretty optimistic person, but
it's very possible he leaves us at the altar.

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Well, then you're going to basically have your choice of
anybody else. But you're not.
You're not in any worse positionthan you were earlier and you
took your best shot at arguably the best reasonable candidate
for that position. And I say reasonable.
I think there are potentially better candidates out there that

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you know, you if you throw enough money at are, you know,
would be nice, but I don't thinkthey had a chance of coming to
Virginia Tech. So you you went with the most
logical and best reasonable candidate and you did everything
that you could to offer him the job as the next head coach of
Virginia Tech. If that's not what he wants to

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do, then it is what it is. But I don't think it would be
for lack of trying and packaging, at least from a
financial standpoint, what was needed to go there.
Now, if we want to talk, is he shying away because of some
other structural components of Virginia Tech?

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That's obviously a different conversation and something we
can address, but I think as as constructed currently, I think
that the committee has done about as good as they could do
given the hand that they were dealt.
Yeah, given the hand they were dealt, but laying it on the
table like they've effectively what people are saying, reports

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are saying has been laid out to him.
First of all, I don't think anywhere else he'd have as much
control because I think they're giving him the keys and saying
do whatever you want to do with it because it's yours.
Hire whoever you want to hire, GM, whatever, it's yours.

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I don't think he gets that anywhere else.
Yeah, I honestly don't. But as far as it goes, can we do
anything else? Well, who's out there?
Does he want to take it off? I'm going to put this up here
real quick. I don't necessarily think it's
an ego shop. Jim, First of all, he's got his

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recruiting footprint and that does matter.
It really does matter. The second thing is we're a
passionate fan base. We have some crazies.
I think somewhere like Florida, LSU hired, and the first thing
about 90% of their fan base would say is why the fuck do we

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hire a damn Big 10 retread? That's the first thing they'd
say. That's out the gate.
That's that's not that's before you even talk about the big game
and, or, or and even even beyondthat, the expectations that come
attached with even second tier SEC jobs.

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What would that to me? It's not.
Second, the Arkansas's 1/3 tier SEC job.
I'm, I'm talking about, I'm talking about LSU and Auburn.
LSU is first tier. LSU has a ton of money,
passionate fan base, great recruiting territory.
Them in Florida are Tier 1. Auburn's a Tier 2.

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That's my opinion. Yeah, I mean, I can agree with
that. LSU is 1 though.
But also, I don't think LSU, first of all, y'all thought we
had a shit show in Blacksburg with everything going on.
Please tell me you want to make yourself feel good about
Virginia Tech's athletic department.
Go read what's going on down at LSU because good Lord almighty,

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I read and listened like, yeah, this is good.
The other thing is, and Brian, Iwant to discuss this.
It's, I think it's second hand, but it's rumors potentially the
reason he got fired from Penn State is Penn State's AD
meddling in what players he feltthey should go after.
And there was a story report saying, hey, James, we should be

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going after these players. I hate Whip Babcock, but I don't
think Whip Babcock would ever have the balls to do that to any
of his head coaches that he's had over all few years.
So. Yeah.
I agree. So well, let's talk.
We got we got a little time because you know, again, the
game is what we thought it was going to be.
Nothing crazy. If you have to say right now,

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let's go through the big jobs, who do you think is going to
take? Who do you landing on with like
Florida right now? Like if you had to say, that's
going to be Florida's guy. Man, I don't know that's, that's

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really that's really tough because I mean, it's one of
those jobs that like it's, it's tier one.
There's a lot, a lot of benefitsthere, but it's such a difficult
place to I think win consistently because of the

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competition for recruits within the footprint, the expectations
that the program has. I don't know man, I don't know
what what are you leaning for sofar?
I've said this a couple times, if Lane Clifton wants it, it's
his, but the. Reasons.

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I just said I don't know if LaneKiffin wants it.
Well, that's the whole thing. That discussion here in this
week is almost is always not been considered a top tier job.
And I also think if Lane stays there and if he keeps doing what
he's doing, that fan base, he's got job security for four to six

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years, he'd have to really startstinking up the joint to
effectively get fired. Where in Florida he could go
down there and pull close to what Dan Mullen did and be out
in a heartbeat. So I'm kind of off the lane
train to Florida and it's going to this might shock you.

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I really think, really think it's going to be goalish from
USF, OK. I think he fits it.
I think especially being being adefense or offensive coordinator
for Tennessee, I think that's probably where they're going.
He's been at South Florida a fewyears now, probably understands

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the culture of the high schools down there, especially South
Florida being a smaller floor school.
You know you're going to be recruiting the state even
heavier than a Florida does because you're trying to find
all the three stars and all the diamonds in the rough.
So I think it's going to be Alice Goldish there.

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I can definitely see that. I can see that playing out
exactly like you said there. Yeah, Makes a lot of sense from
a footprint standpoint, you know, having history down there.
But it's, yeah, I, I think it's still probably going to come
down to whether Lane wants it ornot.
It is, it is. And he's got to make that

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decision. And and if Ole Miss opens up,
then there's there's obviously residuals, but that's going to
be in any case. Yeah, let me flip this one to
you. I'll try to get you to answer of
of the of the of the next three.I'm going to give you because

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these are to me Florida and LSU.You can replace one too of the
next three tier, Penn State, LSUand Auburn.
Who's more screwed? As far as I mean, Penn State,
LSU or Auburn? Who's more screwed?

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It might be Auburn. OK.
It might, it might be Auburn only because I think maybe
pecking order wise, they're going to probably be be third
there. At the same time you you pointed
out LSU structurally is a dumpster fire.

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You've got Penn State having buyer's remorse or seller's
remorse on the James Franklin deal.
So you know, none of those situations are easy.
All of them come with your expectations.
I think at least when you look at the expectations for LSU,

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they'll probably have an easier job backing that up with with
with output. Whereas I think when you look at
some of the the struggles that an Auburn or a Penn State has,
you know, they're they're you'regoing to have the same level of
expectations, but you're going to be working with slightly,
with one arm behind your back relative to the best of the

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competition in in your conference.
So, you know, you're going to have to deal with that and still
be expected to win 10 games every year.
Yeah. See, I think Penn State's more
because people are going to everything that happens at Penn
State, it's going to be where they compared to James, Did they

(49:38):
do this? Did they do this?
I know Phil just put in there Brent Key going there.
I mean, he's a good coach. The only thing I would question
with him is that man, he never coached above Western Carolina
day in his life and it is again a different beast.
Oh, but what Jim put in there, Heartline, that's interesting.

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What first year OC gets a job? I mean, what do you think about
that? You know what that would
probably be for if I'm, if I'm Penn State, that might be a best
case scenario considering what what hand I've kind of put

(50:24):
myself in to this point. You know, I think you know it
it's you're getting a little dicey because you're bringing in
a first time head coach, but I think the connections that he
has, he could put a a staff around him that would that would

(50:44):
work out pretty good. Phil, you want us to hire a guy
who's been an OC for one year toOhio State and he's never
coached anywhere but Ohio State?Hard pass Heart pass.
He's not going to Wisconsin either.
Maybe Jim, if you're right, you can come on here and stretch
stuff in a month or so here. I, I get, I get people have

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strong feelings about Franklin, but at the same time, when you
look at who is available and youlook at who is realistic for
Virginia Tech, it's hard to finda more capable candidate than
James Franklin. Again, you might, you might

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think he's slimy, you might think he does that, but I'm OK
if we go out and get a headhunter for two to four years
and he's off to the next stop because I just want to win.
Because once you start winning, it gets it's it's easier to
keep. A lot easier, a lot easier.
Can I throw a name for you? Nobody's talked about it.
LSU, at least I haven't seen much.
And it wouldn't be shocking because if you if you see him

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coaching, than he at he's a young guy.
Kenny Dillingham from Arizona State tells you.
I think he's psycho enough and crazy enough.
He could probably handle that down there.
Yeah. That wouldn't shock me.
So it it's such a funny cycle because everybody else's G

(52:15):
Fives, Summerall, Silverfield and and a lot of these guys are
basically, you know, are basically getting 3 to $4
million pay raises because they just mentioned their name.

(52:39):
Like, hey, just float my name out there.
Let's school here. So I think it's going to be like
in a month, it's going to be really interesting to see where
everything lands because I, I think UCLA and Stanford, they're

(53:01):
going to stand pat. UCLA is so screwed up
financially, they can't afford abig payday.
I think Oklahoma State, I've told you it was one of our pigs
last week. That North Texas head coach is
going to take that kid up to Oklahoma State.
Sure, Phil, you. Know what, Phil?

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That sounds reasonable. I would believe the first part
of that more than the second part.
I wouldn't read true. Let let me ask this to to you
and then to everybody else. Those who are out here in the
chat gem Phil Few above y'all isJeff Brown going to leave
Louisville because if he if he if he wins a few more games.

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Who? Yeah, that's a great question
because I mean, I think it wouldtake the the extremely correct
fit and amount of money to get him to leave Louisville, but I
think that that does potentiallyexist.

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Do we want to talk about what Jim just put out there?
Sure. All right.
What about our backup to Franklin, PJ Fleck or Chesney?
OK. Of those 2GO Bob Chesney.
You think so? Yeah, swing for the fences,

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don't don't swing for AC and I single.
All right. And no disrespect, Fleck, he's
done a good job at Minnesota. But I think a few things.
First of all, he's coached nothing but the Midwest.
It's a it's a Fuente type situation.
Again, when it comes to recruiting and understanding
what's around you, he's done nothing but Western Michigan in

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Minnesota, that's all he's coached at.
Yeah. That is not footprint.
That is not understanding the culture down here.
I think he is a good coach, but I don't think it fits And and
again. If we were going in that
direction, I feel like, you know, I think Matt Campbell
would make more sense than. Fuck yeah, he made more sense.

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At least he coached in southern part of Ohio versus way out
there. Yeah.
And that's no different. Like no disrespect.
If if if Fleck ends up being thehigher, I think you know it'll.
I can live with it, but I. Can live with it, but it's it's
not, it doesn't, I don't think it excites anybody.

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I don't think it's necessarily, it's not a ceiling raising move.
It might be a floor raising move, but it wouldn't be a
ceiling raising move. Well, if he does get hired,
that's literally the first thingthat has to happen.
He has to go to the duck pond. He has to roll across it.

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Are we going to? Is he going to get a new new
hashtag? What?
No, Row the boat. Still works, just keep the keep
row the boat. Row, row on the boat.
The other thing is where was it?I think you're by your, your,
your Bob Chesney move. I think it just a, the guy is a

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winner. That's it's, it's, it's, it's
you know what? It's very similar to Kirk
Signetti. Kirk Signetti started D31, he
went to E lining 1. He won, he won, he won.
And if you look at Chesney, 127 and 51, as a head coach, and he

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has roughly been a head coach since 2010.
Me either. I'm, I'm with you there, Sean.
It's. Not bullshit.
Brian would get a orange sweaterbase on a room tie and a
heartbeat on this show. No, I mean.
I I not the tie. You pull it off.

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You pull off a sweater, bed and tie.
You really could, That beard of yours?
You know what? You flatter me, Curtis.
You flatter me. All right, that's what.
But But back to Chesney. I mean, it's nothing but
winning. It's Let's see again.
I, I, I like this concept, but at the same time, I like the

(57:33):
idea of we have this money, let's actually put it to fucking
use and not just get the next guy that we can get.
I'm with you on that. And and I'm not I'm not saying
anything's wrong with with that mindset, Steven, you know,
putting out there Chesney wouldn't cost a lot either.
Like I get that. But you won't throw your nuts on
the table and say, listen, we'rewe're playing with big boy money

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now. Well, if it's, you know,
chastity, I think you know, whenyou talk about the money coming
in, he's not going to cost a lot, but he's what he's also not
going to do is bring you in a lot of money.
He's not a guy that's going to go out there and glad hand the
donors out the gate. He's got to win eight games in
the first two years before people are going to really open
up their wallets now. And and beyond that, I don't

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know if if much, much less than that is going to get it done.
So he's not going to get the immediate buy in from, from the
donors, from a lot of the fan base that someone like James
Franklin we get. And and then there's still other
guys out there like, I mean, whothought?

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He must not be named he he wearsa cock on his hat.
Oh. No, no, pretty much.
Per the South Carolina fan base,him firing Mike Schuler bought
him a year. He did what he he did.
Can I say it? And everybody in here is

(59:02):
probably old enough to know this.
He did what his daddy never could do.
It's fair. I mean, I mean, how many, How
many? Well, it took him how many
years? It took him too long to do it.
But no, it didn't though. Sheila just got hired this year.

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Well, no, I'm saying Frank. He still never fired the guy.
Yeah, he kept him on staff. He demoted him.
He demoted him. And he and he's took it and.
And he took the demotion. So I mean, there's, there's, you
know, you don't, you don't take a demotion if you don't think

(59:43):
it's warranted. Yeah, there you go.
There's still a lot of second options out there.
And again, I think having the the one thing that's going to
talk is money talks. And I think the the agents talk
to each other. There's now probably a few
people out there who would consider us because now they

(01:00:04):
know. You know what?
They can give you 9.7 million, they're going to.
They can dump X amount of dollars into NIO into your
assistant coaching pool. If anything, as crazy as it
sounds, what the last two weeks has done is raise the profile of
the program and of the job itself.

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It's true because we were able to bite early and because we got
tied to James Franklin pretty early in the process.
I mean, you got a lot of people talking about the Virginia Tech
job and also not just talk aboutthe Virginia Tech job, but
talking about what that job means, what it's about, what
they can, what we can offer. I think, you know, getting those

(01:00:47):
things out into the sphere is going to raise the profile of
the job overall to hopefully give us a little bit of a, you
know, a better pool. If if Franklin ends up not being
the guy I know that we already have potentially, you know,
they, they talked about two to four names getting passed from

(01:01:10):
the committee. I'm sure there's two to three
guys that they've got that have been vetted that just haven't
got into full on contract negotiations because we were
dealing with Franklin. First, true.
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So yeah. But the whole thing somebody may
have mentioned, is there ever been a hire this early in the
cycle? No.
But there's also never been someone of James Franklin's
caliber open this early in the cycle.
Yeah. There just hasn't.
There just hasn't been that. And there's still those, there's

(01:02:35):
still your Jimbo's and guys likethat who are out of coaching
that won't back in. You know, listen, Brian's costly
optimistic. I can be optimistic if if in a
month I'm not optimistic we got real problems.
Because I can talk, I guess. I guess that man, I'm, I'm, I'm

(01:02:57):
going to be optimal. Whatever, whatever I'm dealt.
I'm I'm going to, you know, lookat it slightly on the the glass
half full side, but I'm going toI'm, you know, still still keep
it within the frame of reality. I'm not going to just put on the
the Rose colored glasses and call it a day.
But at the same time, I try to look for whatever our situation

(01:03:20):
is, try to find the positives init, find things that we can, you
know, look at and, and hold on to as we move forward.
And yeah, I'll do that whoever the coach is and, and we'll go
from there. But obviously, I think if
you're, if you're asking me right now if, if I'd be happy
with James Franklin, if he ends up signing on the dotted line,
I, I would say yes. I think that's probably the best

(01:03:43):
candidate that's available rightnow that is a reasonable
candidate that I think could come here and have some success
out the gate. You know, I, I, I still wouldn't
have a problem with, you know, put Mullen in there, but I don't
know how feasible Mullen is at this point.

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When you look at some of the other candidates that we had
talked about on here, it's really hard to see more than a
handful potentially being in play.
So I'm hoping that the the Franklin thing works out and if
not, we'll see who those next, you know, two to three guys
behind him are. Yeah.

(01:04:26):
All right, let's go ahead, Brian.
Let's talk some football becauseit has been got to say,
regardless what you've been watching, the last like month
has been extra entertaining in college football and it feels
like it's always this way. This weekend there's again just

(01:04:48):
good games all over the place. There's sneaky games and let's
get some big screeners. Unfortunately, Brian had rough
weekend. We're officially on the Fade
sibling. You know what, man, it's been
the last two weeks have not beengood to me.
They have not been good to me atall.

(01:05:11):
I backed up AO for four, a big old doughnut with A1 for three,
one in three-week. So it hasn't been a good run for
me. I'm still not out of the out of
the weeds here. I I still have some some
potential ground to make up. I've got what we got, 5 weeks

(01:05:35):
left. In the in.
The regular season here. Hey listen everything football
wise, Yahoo or picking is not being good for me.
I just got, I just got to gain 2games on, you know, Sheldon
Tally every week going forward and I'm right back in it.
Yeah. It's, it's been rough this year
and the whole thing is it's we if there hadn't been a couple

(01:05:59):
hooks, I think we'd probably allbe close to 500, if not slightly
over The hook is just yeah. Hired Tally.
I'll be the. OC there you go.
All right, there's what that is.Bunch of good games this week
even though they couldn't be with us tonight.
Shelton and Tally always making their picks.
So let's start it. I got the first game as the

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Oregon Ducks go visit Iowa. Chinnick Hawkeye laying 5 1/2 or
getting 5 1/2 at home. And there was one reason I
picked the game the way I pickedthis game.
It's a 330 kick, not a night game.
Oregon wins by at least a touchdown.

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If this was a night game, I'll have taken the Hawkeyes in a
heartbeat because bad things happen to rank teams.
It cannot get night. It's true, and it's not a night
game. So Sheldon Taliban, I'm ride
with you as well. Donuts on the board, baby.
So everyone now knows take Iowa and the points because we all

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picked. It if you ride with BCP, you're
losing money. But if you fade us, you're rich.
That's right. I think the only reason Tally
chose this one this week is I think South Carolina's off,
aren't they? They're off and I think he said
one of these teams is firing a coach.

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That is exactly what he said. Shane ain't playing.
Somebody's getting fired after this game, which I don't.
Think whoever loses is getting fired, is what he said.
I don't think anybody's getting fired because Dallas buyout is
pretty big too. I don't know if it's $54 million
big. Let let me look at that real
quick. Yeah, Florida, Florida State has
a buyout money problem and that's, and that's usually not a

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Florida State problem, but they put themselves in the situation
where getting rid of their guy and getting a guy they actually
want is going to be a problem. Ain't nobody firing anybody.
You know what Dabo's buyout is? What you got?
It's higher than NOR bells. No shit, it's 60 million.

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All right. Well, this is a.
This is. A This is just the suck bowl.
This is the suck bowl. The suck.
Bowl with talented players. Exactly.
Suck bowl with talented players.This is the purgatory of the
college football. And and then this has been
pointed out numerous times on social media network this week.

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The two teams who bitched threaten to sue and leave the
ACC because they won't get enough money.
You know this game is taking place TV wise.
Where is it? ACC Network non meals been
affected but. Serves them right.
In Death Valley, Clemson land the 2 1/2 home spread as normal

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and Tally says. FSU.
Brian. Says I went the other direction,
man, I think you know, when we, when we talked about, I talked
about earlier with the inconsistent play, I think
Florida State is just way too damn inconsistent, especially on
the offensive side of the ball. I think you're going to see

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Clemson not be good, but they'llbe good enough.
I am the exact opposite of you. I think against Wake Forest last
week, I think Florida State found the mojo while Clemson
lost the Duke in a 91 point gameand they lost it in Death

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Valley. And you know, there's games that
break people's wills. I I I think that might have been
the game that broke the will, where vice versa, I think the
weight game may woke up Florida State Knowles Shelton rides
with. Clemson.
Hope was he paying attention to your picks?
He probably wouldn't. If he was, he did the wrong

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thing. Why Shelton?
Why? All righty, next.
Sneaky. Sneaky.
Good game Saturday night. Sneaky.
It's creeping in there. I mean, I almost picked this
one, but I I don't because for some reason Shelton pays
attention to BYU significantly. I don't know why he's mentioned

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it in the past, but this game, it's in Lubbock, high noon,
SO11-O clock start, which if I was Texas Tech, I'd be
absolutely dismayed because thisis this is the stupidity of Fox
or that this is ABC has this game.
This is a stupidity of ABC. This is like the biggest game of

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the week. This should not be a noon kick.
It should not be even close to anoon kick.
If you look at other top 25 matchups, the night games are
It's like LSU, Alabama is the night game.
LSU is dead in the water. Alabama somehow that ranked four
even though they lost to a four loss.
Team losses don't matter. It's just who your name is.

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Texas Tech leads 9 1/2 Shelton rides with.
Texas Tech. Guns up, he says.
Tally. TT.
Guns up. Hey that that 9 1/2 is fishy to
me. That 9 1/2 is fishy to me.
Well with well, it's it put it up there especially to me too.

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BYU is unbeaten and I know you can look at strength of
schedule, staying at the record and all that stuff.
It's like, well, who have they played?
And it's like, well, you know what, There ain't no, they may
not have the best of who they played, but getting out and 1/2
is a ton. I don't know who wins the game
honestly if this was a night game I I might could see Texas

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Tech beaten by 10 but a but a a day game that just sucks.
Top 10 matchup noon day game. Get out of here, ESPN.
Just get out. Yeah.
I I can't believe they're doing that again, but you know.
It's just like, you know? But they did.

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They don't have the right logos man.
They don't. They don't have the right logos.
Alrighty, last one, Miss Sigler.Hey, man, I saw this.
I was like, you know what the, the, the, the line on this alone
is? It's kind of funny funny as
well. Mizzou getting 6 1/2 at home.

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I like A&M in this one. I think if if this was 7 1/2 I
would have went Mizzou. If this was 7 I probably would
have went Mizzou. 6 and a hook I'm going to go.
A&M here, by the way. Yes, the starting quarterback

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for Missouri has been out. I think he's been ruled out with
this game. It feels like this is what Texas
A&M does. They get to 8 and O, they get to
7 and O and there and there is agame they should win and they
just don't. And I think give me getting
points at home, I'll take Mizzouall.

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Right. Shelton is riding with you, and
Tally, for whatever reason, decided he was going to ride
with me on this one, and I thinkit's solely because Mizzou's
quarterback is. Out Mizzou's quarterback it's
funny we we all voted the same old Oregon and each of us rode
with you on one of our. You know what man, y'all are
rolling the dice. Every single one of us, it's

(01:13:57):
like we didn't fade you. Like, you know, I can't keep
being wrong. Eventually, it's got to be
right. Hey, at least you know,
potentially I can make up some ground on somebody as I'm going.
I should at least make up, you know, if I, if I get things
right, I can make up one game oneverybody you can.
Make one game upon everybody. Exactly, exactly.
All right, so there that is. Let me go to Twitter like you

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know, nothing's came out as it on election night.
I mean, other than the, you know, Pete, Pete nailed it.
So in, in Blacksburg. So that's, that's a, that's,
that's a good deal. I think.
You know, you, you talk about, you know, bar friendly, business
friendly, university friendly, infrastructure friendly.

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Yeah, it's it's what you need. It's what you need right here.
It's it's a big win for if you are a fan of Virginia Tech, the
school, love the town of Blacksburg, you want to see it
grow and figure out how to do things versus just sitting on
your hands like some people havebeen doing really good thing,

(01:15:05):
really good thing. All right.
Anything else Brian coming through the wire as it's a
little after 10 here? Nothing on this end buddy.
All. Right.
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