January 22, 2024 • 27 mins
Unlock the secrets of your child's health and behavior with Dr. Piper Gibson's expert insights on personalized nutrition. In our latest discussion, we delve into the profound influence of diet on children's well-being, particularly those with tic disorders, autism, and ADHD. Dr. Gibson, a luminary in functional medicine, genomics, and holistic nutrition, joins us to highlight the dramatic effects sugar and processed foods can have on your little ones. As parents, we're on a constant quest for strategies that cater to our kids' unique biological needs, and this episode promises to equip you with the knowledge to make impactful changes toward a natural, whole-food diet.
Preparing healthy meals amid the chaos of daily life can be a Herculean task, but this episode brings you a collection of life-saving tips to make meal prep a breeze. We exchange ideas on bulk cooking, using leftovers creatively, and the magic of kitchen technology like Instant Pots and slow cookers. These nuggets of wisdom aren't just about saving time; they're about infusing your family's diet with nutritious choices that don't compromise taste. We also confront the tough spots, like the siren call of unhealthy treats outside the home, and share how we can better navigate these challenges for our kids.
The episode culminates with a focus on tic disorders and their relationship with childhood nutrition. Drawing from personal experiences and proactive measures, we're here to guide you in strengthening your child's immune system through informed food choices and vitamin-rich diets. If you're looking for support on early detection and intervention for health issues, or you're seeking a community that understands, Dr. Gibson's 'Tic Disorder Secrets - a natural approach' is the beacon you've been searching for. Tune in to this treasure trove of advice and join us in paving the way to a healthier, happier future for our children.
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Dr. Hokehe Eko (00:00):
Hello parents, welcome to this session, and
you're in for an amazing treat.
I have with me Dr Piper Gibsonand she is going to introduce
herself because, let me tell you, this lady is a fountain of
knowledge and wisdom and soexcited I get to interview her
today.
So, piper, thank you for comingon with me and please take it
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away.
Dr. Piper Gibson (00:24):
Thank you so much.
I really appreciate that kindintroduction.
So my name is Dr Piper Gibsonand I am a doctor of functional
medicine.
I also hold a PhD in holisticmedicine, holistic nutrition,
traditional naturopathy, and Iam board certified in natural
medicine.
I am also a genomic specialist,working in the exciting field
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of epigenetics and genomics.
I am a bestselling author.
I have a book called Tick TockCommon Misconceptions, real
Conversations and NaturalSolutions to Tick Disorders.
I use my holistic methods tohelp parents get access to the
tools, testing and educationthey need in order to start
reducing their child's tickdisorder symptoms, naturally,
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woo.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (01:11):
So she's a tick expert.
So, yes, and that's aco-mobility that can happen with
children with autism and ADHDfor sure.
So that's why I wanted her tocome on here and talk with us
today about how can we improveour children's nutrition right,
absolutely, because I like youto explain to the parents how
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important it is, how the rolenutrition plays in the way your
child behaves.
Dr. Piper Gibson (01:39):
So a lot of people just feel that food is
fuel.
You're going to eat it, you'regoing to fuel your body.
But we have to compare it to ifyou have a car that runs on
gasoline and you pull up to thegas station and you put diesel
in it your car it's probably notgoing to run so hot after that,
if at all.
So we have to look at whatwe're eating from the unique
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perspective that we are allbio-individual, meaning we are
just as unique on the inside asour fingerprints are on the
outside, and so it's reallyimportant to start to look at
our children and ourselves asindividuals and realize that
what food might be good for oneperson may not be great for
another person, and so that'sreally where we start to look at
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nutrition on this moreindividual scale and really
start to apply it to thechildren and the families that
we're working with.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (02:35):
Absolutely, yeah , absolutely right.
It will not run well.
So what parts does the thingslike sugars and all of those
things that kids eat commonly?
How does that affect the brain?
Dr. Piper Gibson (02:50):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
So we are a society thatconsumes an excessive amount of
sugar.
So when we start to look at 150years ago, we may have eaten in
our lives, in our year, a fivepound bag of sugar, which is
just the bag you buy at thegrocery store.
You had sugar.
Maybe your mom made a birthdaycake and everybody in the family
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had a slice, or you went to thestate fair and you had some
lemonade and maybe you had somecotton candy.
But sugar consumption 150 yearsago was very few and far
between.
What has happened in society aswe've gone through the
Industrial Revolution, as we'vestarted making these massive
amounts of packaged processedfoods, is we eat between 40 and
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60 really closer to 60 pounds ofsugar in a year.
That is an excessive amount ofsugar.
And when we look at therecommendations, it's really
only recommended that our kidsget no more than three added
teaspoons of sugar a day, whichisn't very much.
But when you start to look atthe packaged processed food,
when you start to look at youknow the treats that you're
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giving your kids, the yogurtthat we feel is healthy and is
just packed with 20 grams ofsugar.
I mean, for a regular child, 20grams of sugar from your yogurt
is your complete added sugarfor the day.
That's it.
You shouldn't have any moreadded sugar than that.
So we really start to look atsugar, for the, for the most
part, is not doing us any favors.
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We know that when we consumesugar it lowers our immune
system for up to 12 hours.
We get cold and flu likesymptoms when we consume too
much sugar and it's veryinflammatory to the brain.
So not only are we inflamingour gut with sugar, but when
that happens, because our gutand brain are connected, we are
really starting to inflame ourbrain with the sugar and it's
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not just the sugar.
we're going to talk about someother things too but the fact
that we have started consumingsugar processed food as the bulk
of our diet is reallydetrimental to our health.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (04:54):
Absolutely yes, and it's that goes for both
parents and kids.
Dr. Piper Gibson (04:59):
Absolutely Agreed.
It is not just for yourchildren.
I'm talking to you too.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (05:04):
We're talking to you, so yeah, so when parents,
often when I talk to my patientsabout okay, let's talk about
food, it's like thisoverwhelming subject what's an?
What are some strategies youhave how parents can address or
approach changing what theirchildren are eating?
Dr. Piper Gibson (05:24):
I think the easiest way to approach that is
to stop buying the packagedprocessed foods.
So you go to the grocery store,you spend all your time like
the granola bars and the poptarts and the treats.
Stop buying those packagedprocessed foods.
Spend your time on theoutskirts of the grocery store
focusing on the meat, thechicken, the pork, the animal
proteins, vegetables and fruit,Starting to look at what were
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people eating 150 years ago or athousand years ago.
That's going to be a lot closerto the diet that you should be
eating instead of yourconvenience Kraft macaroni and
cheese.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (06:00):
Yes, I hear you on that one.
So when parents often childrenwith autism and ADHD, they're
often extremely picky and havevery limited diets.
So can you explain why?
First of all, why that is andwhat can parents do about it?
Dr. Piper Gibson (06:17):
So I find with the people that I'm working
with, the families and the kidsthat I'm working with, is that
we are consuming a lot of dairyand gluten.
Let's go back to thatconvenient Kraft macaroni and
cheese.
Dairy and gluten Both dairy andgluten create a substance that
is very similar to opioids.
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So we have all of these peoplein the United States that are
addicted to opioids, topainkillers.
Well, gluten and dairy glutenmakes glutamorphine and dairy
makes case on morphine and theycombine to the opioid receptors
in your brain.
So we find that eating glutenand dairy can actually cause a
lot of brain fog, lack of focus,definitely picky eating.
When we start to pull thosethings out, you know my clients
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will be like my kids are eatingfoods I never imagined they
would eat and that's partiallybecause we are pulling out those
things for them that areaddictive, that gluten and dairy
.
It's addictive and that's allthey want to eat and it leads
them to have these very limiteddiets.
So we start to make thosechanges.
We start to see changes in thepicking this, but one of the
best ways to do that is with agateway flavors.
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So start to think about and askyour kids.
Have conversations with them.
Maybe you have a child thatloves pizza, pizzas their
favorite.
But what is about the pizzathat they love?
Is it the savory cheese and thesauce?
Is it the pepperoni?
Is it the garlic and the crust?
What are those flavors?
So let's say you analyze thisfood and you're like, oh, it's
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the garlic, they love garlic.
We'll start to think about whatelse can I put garlic on?
You can put garlic oneverything.
Or if your kid loves bacon,here's your gateway flavor.
Bacon is a great gateway flavor.
Use that bacon on broccoli, onasparagus, on you name it, put
the bacon with it.
So we start to look at whatthese gateway flavors are.
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What is it that your kid lovesand how can you incorporate
those into new foods?
And then you can do things likeyou know.
Just have one bite.
It tastes just like that pizzathat you love.
Or it tastes just like thatbacon that you love.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (08:20):
Now, that's a super easy way to look at it.
Yeah, that's absolutely, that'swonderful.
So gateway flavors, and thenwhat after that?
Dr. Piper Gibson (08:32):
And you really want to focus on making sure
that your kids are getting thenutrients that they need, and
this is one of the reasons thatwe start to focus on those whole
foods, you know, the meat, thefruits, the veggies, that kind
of thing.
But but as we're looking at itas our, as we're starting to
change diet, we want to makesure that they are, one, eating
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things that they enjoy, but, two, that they're getting that
nutrition.
So we start to look at you know, what are we having for
breakfast?
Well, if we're starting our daywith a bowl of cereal and I
love to tell my clients to throwthe Cheerios in the garbage
we're starting our day withcereal we're really missing out
on protein.
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Protein is essential for us tobe able to make
neurotransmitters, so thingslike serotonin and dopamine.
They're going to make us feelgood, they're going to make us
focus and function.
So when we start our morningoff with crumb cake and cereal,
we are missing that opportunityto make neurotransmitters that
are going to help us focus allday at school.
So we really have to startlooking at our meals.
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What are some really good waysthat we can encourage our kids
bodies to make neurotransmitters?
Start your breakfast your daywith a breakfast of protein.
You know, eggs and bacon.
Or you know, make a hash ifmaybe you're not eating eggs.
So really starting to look athow can we make sure that
they're getting the nutrientsthat they need.
I mean, you can always we cantalk about supplements as well,
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and that being another good wayto get some nutrients into kids.
So really starting to focus onokay, we've we've kind of passed
this, taking out the gluten anddairy.
We've passed this, adding inthe gateway flavors.
So, now that we've made thesechanges, how can we really start
to ramp it up?
Dr. Hokehe Eko (10:18):
Yeah, no, that's so important.
I like that how you're breakingit down, because lots of
parents feel overwhelmed withjust the when we say eat healthy
, right, how do I do that?
So thank you for addressingthat.
So what about children who areconstipated, which I find that's
the case in 99% of the patientsI see?
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Adh cannot send theirconstipated.
So what would you tell parents?
That would help their children,that would improve their
constipation.
Dr. Piper Gibson (10:47):
Yeah.
So there's a couple of thingsand there's several things we
can do when we talk aboutconstipation.
One is to kind of make surethat we're getting more fiber so
the fruits and the vegetablesare a really good way making
sure that they're getting plentyof magnesium.
Magnesium helps with that, withour muscle movement and our
peristalsis of the digestionthat we're doing.
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So are they getting enoughmagnesium?
Rich foods Starting to look atthat.
You can do pepsim salts, baths,which is very rich in magnesium
but can help with constipation.
But for me, when I start to lookat kids that I deal with some
kids with constipation is whyare you constipated?
For me, stool pathogen testinggives us the most answers we can
really start to look at.
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Well, why isn't this childgoing to the bathroom on a
regular basis?
And there's some supplementsthat you can put in to help
people start having bowelmovements, like magnesium.
But for me, as the holisticperspective, it's like let's
figure out why you're not goingin the first place.
For me, a stool pathogen testis really going to give us some
good clues.
I always say there's a clue inthe poo.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (11:49):
Oh, there is a clue in the poo.
That's absolutely correct.
So I know that kids are goingback to school and school
lunches, while we are trying tokeep them healthy, are often
processed full of sugar.
So how do parents address that,especially when most parents
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are working and the male may notwant to pack lunches for their
kids?
What are some ways you foundthat parents can still help
their kids be healthy overall?
Dr. Piper Gibson (12:21):
So you know I do this because my son was very
sick and when he got sick I wentto the school.
I said give me your list ofingredients.
And so I had this notebookthat's about this fat and I sat
down and I read everything and Iwas really, really, really
blown away by the fact that thehealthiest thing on the school
menu was the whole wheat donutBlown away.
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Everything else was full ofpreservatives, it was full of
sugar, it was full of nitrates,you name it.
The food at the school is lessthan optimal.
So you know, talking to yourkids and teaching them how they
can make healthier choices isone big thing.
And so if you have a schoolthat has a lot of foods that
they can choose from, you knowwhat's going to be the better
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option.
Should you get, you know, thegrilled chicken or should you
get the cheese pizza?
So helping them to learn how todecide for themselves like when
you're looking at the schoollunch tray like what's going to
be the best option for them toeat.
But you know, packing lunches isactually easier than a lot of
people think.
I always say make a bunch ofleftovers, make so much food
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that you have leftovers and youcan pack it.
So get a really good stainlesssteel thermos.
We like hydro flask.
You can get Arctic at Walmart.
It works just as well.
Make those leftovers, warm themup the next morning, pop them
in that thermos with maybe a QTorange, a good bottle of water.
Make sure your bottle of wateris stainless as well.
But really making that easierfor yourself, you can prepare a
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lot of the things that go inthose lunches in advance.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (13:55):
That's exactly right.
I have three kids, so yes,three kids with a big appetite.
I should say, yes, leftovers isa lifesaver and my kids joke
and laugh about how they nevertake sandwiches.
So I'm like but why, when doesall this?
Dr. Piper Gibson (14:11):
nice food.
I know my kids are in highschool, I have one graduating, I
have a junior and a senior andI am still making lunches,
because they will come home andsay I am not, that those are
just not good options.
So yeah, I mean I'm still in it, making lunches every single
day for two boys with hugeappetites.
I get it.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (14:31):
Yes, and I find that it's actually easier on me
as a parent when I cook in bulk,right, I just go buy the glass
storage containers and I stickit in the freezer and then all
we're doing is reheating stuff,and that takes an edge of stress
off of you.
If you feel like, oh, I don'twanna just start cooking right,
which is what you can be timeconsuming but if you just maybe
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take one day and prep and makethe meals, then it's easier.
So what's some advice you giveparents who are busy, like they
make?
Dr. Piper Gibson (15:03):
you busy.
Yes, this is my number oneadvice Get an instant pot.
Get an instant pot and get twoof the stainless steel pots that
go in it.
So I will.
For example, I have a big pot ofchili.
I made a big pot of chili.
My kids like it.
I know they're gonna eat it.
I know that I can put it inlunches and we can have it for a
dinner.
So then I have my instant pot.
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I make it all in the instantpot.
I got a silicone lid.
Thank you, amazon, for theinstant pot.
I take that instant pot, I cookthe chili, I serve it, I put
silicone lid on it, I put it inthe refrigerator.
I'm not transferring anything.
And let's just say, like, thenext night I need to use the
instant pot again.
I have two containers that Ican use to make something else
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the next day.
So it's become such a huge timesaver for me to like simple
recipes.
I threw in some nitrate-freekielbasa sausage, some ground
beef, some onions, some dicedtomatoes, green chili, some beef
broth and I made like a cowboystew.
So then everybody loved it.
Everybody ate it.
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Right, making things in theinstant pot save so much time.
I mean even doing the crock potto start it in the morning
before you go to work.
Come home it's ready.
I mean you can get a crock potnow that has Bluetooth on it.
You can check your phone and belike my crock pot's done ding.
I mean the ways that you canmake it easier on yourself.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (16:24):
Yes, yes, I absolutely agree.
I remember telling my kids thismorning Mommy is no longer
going to making pancakes in themorning because I started on
this thing about pancakes in themorning, like why am I doing
this to myself?
Dr. Piper Gibson (16:36):
And yes, a whole bunch Throughout the week
right, exactly.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (16:41):
So that's what I do.
And then in the pancakes tomake it extra, I add like
flaxseed and all this, becauseyou can add all sorts of things
in there and they have no ideas.
In there I really just say,like pancakes.
So so that's another way.
Yeah, definitely I like that.
So I didn't realize I need togo find the second pot, that one
I didn't think of, and I, andthen now I know about silicone
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lids, thank you, see, I'mlearning, taking notes, so yeah,
so what else?
What other advice would yougive to parents that you see,
and Just how can they teachtheir kids?
You know how at schools youhave, you often have candy for,
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or treats and all of thosethings.
I find that, like I have asix-year-old and I teach her
okay, don't, we don't eat allthat stuff at home, but at
school, of course she gravitatesfor it because she never sees
it right.
So what?
What do you tell parents?
Like, how can they help theirchildren, like prepare their
children to Not give it totemptation at school?
Dr. Piper Gibson (17:45):
I think it's a matter of educating them.
Our kids are smart and we cansit down with them and have a
Conversation about what theyshould and should not be eating
and giving them the reasons whythey should and should not be
eating it.
I mean, and you can do thatwith little kids I have kids
that I work with, five and sixyears old, who their parents
have taught them to say no,thank you.
Your teacher's like oh, here'sthe reward.
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No, thank you.
Well, those moms and dads goand buy pencils, erasers, little
things that they can hand tothe teacher and say please don't
hand my child a piece of candyas a reward, but you can give
them one of these things.
And then I think it's also amatter of educating the schools.
I am not above going to schooland being like listen, stop
handing out the candy.
Let's think of some otherthings that we can give out as
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rewards to kids that are notjunk because Teachers are gonna
pay for it.
You hand your kids out a bunchof candy at 10 o'clock in the
morning, at 2 o'clock in themorning.
Everyone's gonna be a realtreat.
So they will we really have tostart to think about?
Food is not a reward.
It is not.
Yes.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (18:47):
Definitely, food is not a reward, because then
they can go the other extremeright, start overeating, which
that's a whole, not a topic.
So, yes, I agree, so that'swonderful.
Um, what else would you adviseparents like um, as they, as
they just get ready for schoolwith their kids?
What are things that theyshould watch out for in terms of
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nutrition?
Dr. Piper Gibson (19:10):
Yeah, I mean one is really making sure that
we kids go back to school.
They get sick because thenthey're around all the germs.
Like really looking at, is yourkid getting enough Vitamin D?
Are they spending enough timeout in the sun?
Are we supporting their immunesystem?
If you're eating a bunch ofsugar and junk, you're not
supporting your child's immunesystem.
So, yes, they're more likely togo to school and get sick.
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Um, but I think it's.
I really think it's not aboutBack to school or going to
school.
It's about doing this educationpiece all the time, like having
open, honest conversations withyour kids.
And if you, as a parent, don'tfeel like you really understand
what healthy food is, there arepeople out there who can help
you with this.
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People like myself, people likedr Echo, who can say, hey,
we're going to give you someinformation on what are these
things that are going to be goodand what are these things that
are going to be bad, and sitdown and educate your kids about
the things that they're puttinginto their body.
I mean my, I really like thisanalogy because it really hits
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home for parents.
But I say to a lot of theparents they're like, well, I
don't.
Just, I just don't know if wecan give up gluten.
And I say, would you go down tothe corner drug dealer and buy
your kid a bag of cocaine ifthey were addicted to drugs?
And they were like, well, no,heck, no, I wouldn't do that.
You're not doing them anyfavors, giving them the sugar,
the gluten and the dairy and thejunk.
So you have to start to thinkof it, as these things can be
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addicting, they can beproblematic.
How can we, how can wecircumvent this mess?
Dr. Hokehe Eko (20:42):
Absolutely Wow.
Dr. Piper Gibson (20:44):
Yes.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (20:44):
I love the analogy, I think.
Dr. Piper Gibson (20:46):
I'm going to borrow that, please.
I think I borrowed it fromsomebody else, I don't remember.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (20:51):
I shocked some parents into it shocked me.
Yeah, it's the truth, becausethose things are addictive.
Yeah, absolutely so.
Wow, yes, you're absolutelyright.
It's not just about going backto school, it's the lifestyle
change.
It's parents.
It has to start with you.
Our kids will do more what theysee you doing versus what you
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say.
So if we're telling our kidsdon't eat sugar, and there you
are with the sodas and whateverelse is going on, then they're
not going to listen right andthey're going to keep doing the
same thing.
And I always tell parentschange your grocery list,
because I found that parentslike to say hey, did you hear
the doctor?
Don't do that.
Dr. Piper Gibson (21:36):
Don't have it in the house.
I think that is the biggest key, and you usually hear adult
women talk about this becausethey're like I can't stop eating
the potato chips, don't have itin the house.
If you're going to eat aboatload of it, just don't have
in the house.
And then you can tell your kidssorry, we don't have any, we're
out of stock.
You know they didn't have it atthe grocery store and I really
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stressed to parents Most of thetime.
Yes, I have older kids now, butwhen they were little they
didn't have a car, they didn'thave a job, they weren't paying
for the groceries.
I had ultimate cosmic powerover, besides what they were
going to school, but you knowwhat they were really eating at
home, and so they would see useat it.
Then they would eat it, and nowthey're at the stage where
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they're like, yeah, I'm notgoing to eat those things.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (22:21):
That's so important, so this has been so
wonderful.
So let's talk about ticks for alittle bit.
How often do ticks show up inchildren with autism and ADHD,
and what I think parents canwatch out for to give them a
heads up that this might bewhat's going on?
Dr. Piper Gibson (22:39):
So you know, tick disorders are a definitely
a co, more co, more of a d ofADHD, ocd, spd, autism.
So what we look at for tickdisorders and my perspective,
perspective is not conventional,but we you know for my son he
started rapidly blinking hiseyes and we went to the doctor
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and said allergies, just takesome allergy medicine.
And that wasn't it.
And then he started jerking hisneck.
So tick disorders If you've hada tick disorder, that's either
motor or vocal.
So there's two types of ticksmotor and vocal.
Motor would be, you know,clapping the hands, blinking the
eyes.
Vocal is throat clearing ormaybe they say a word over and
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over again.
If they've had a combination ofboth for a year, they can get a
Tourette syndrome diagnosis.
But what, what we're reallyseeing with kids who have ticks,
kids who have Tourette's, kidswho have ADHD, kids who have
autism, when we start to look atthe studies, the great study
came out last year talking aboutTourette's and the co
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morbidities and things that comewith it and really are stemming
from an imbalanced immunesystem.
So why is your immune system inbalance?
Well, you have about 90% ofyour immune system in your gut.
What are you eating?
Do you have intestinalpermeability.
So I really start to look atthis whole connection from the
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gut and the brain.
What are we, what are we not?
And not just what you're eating, but in your environment as
well chemicals, toxins, thosekinds of things.
So I start to look at thisinflammation and imbalanced
immune system for all of thosekind of you know childhood
chronic illnesses that we areseeing on a very significant
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rise at this point.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (24:26):
Yep, it's like an epidemic going on.
You mentioned something yousaid repeating words.
Right, and that's somethingthat you often see in children
with autism.
They can they repeat words.
So it's like, so you parentsjust really need to be keeping
their eyes open and their earsopen and write things down.
Or I say, take a video orsomething and show to your
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doctor.
You know, that's what I usuallyencourage parents to do and
don't just overlook what thesymptoms are going on.
Dr. Piper Gibson (24:54):
You know, I tell parents that you know tick
disorders autism, adhd, sensoryprocessing, ocd.
I think that is a diagnosis,it's, it's a label, but that's
not the problem.
That is a sign that there is aproblem.
Those are symptoms that you areexperiencing.
And so when we look at theconventional approach for tick
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disorders, they say ticks arejust neurological.
Ignore them, maybe they'll growout.
Grow out of them.
From my perspective, ticks arenot purely neurological.
There's something else going ondownstream.
Let's figure out what it is.
So I agree with you take avideo, write things down, get a
notebook, everything your kidputs in your their mouth, write
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it down, you know, reallystarting to document where those
signs and symptoms are comingfrom.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (25:43):
Yes, definitely, because it's so important,
because we want to catch thingsearly, right, because the
earlier we catch it, the earlierwe can hopefully reverse it and
get the kid on the path tosuccess, versus late diagnosis.
And we have kids struggling,and struggling, and struggling.
So, yes, parents, please payattention to what's going on,
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and there's no such thing as thesilly questions Always best to
ask.
I mean, reach out to Dr Piper,reach out to me and ask the
questions so that we don't missthings for our kids that can be
treated.
You know Exactly Right.
So, okay, that's wonderful.
And where can parents find moreabout you?
And I know you have your book,but please tell them where they
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can find you.
Dr. Piper Gibson (26:28):
So you can find me at www.
regenerating.
health, not com, health.
I also am on Facebook andInstagram at regenerating health
and I have a private Facebookgroup called Tick Disorder
Secrets (26:43):
a natural approach.
You can join the group.
We share recipes, we shareideas.
I've got, you know, a wholebunch of members in there, so
it's a great place to find meand get connected.
But, yeah, that's how you findme.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (26:57):
Wonderful.
So thank you so much for yourtime and for and just this
amazing conversation we just had, and I hope, parents, that you
find it's helpful and watch itagain if you need to and just,
and, and just stop putting inpractice the things we've talked
about to help your child andyourself be the best you can be.
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So thank you once again, Dr.
Piper.
Dr. Piper Gibson (27:21):
Thank you, Dr.
Eko, for having me.
Hello parents, welcome to this session, and
you're in for an amazing treat.
I have with me Dr Piper Gibsonand she is going to introduce
herself because, let me tell you, this lady is a fountain of
knowledge and wisdom and soexcited I get to interview her
today.
So, piper, thank you for comingon with me and please take it
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away.
Dr. Piper Gibson (00:24):
Thank you so much.
I really appreciate that kindintroduction.
So my name is Dr Piper Gibsonand I am a doctor of functional
medicine.
I also hold a PhD in holisticmedicine, holistic nutrition,
traditional naturopathy, and Iam board certified in natural
medicine.
I am also a genomic specialist,working in the exciting field
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of epigenetics and genomics.
I am a bestselling author.
I have a book called Tick TockCommon Misconceptions, real
Conversations and NaturalSolutions to Tick Disorders.
I use my holistic methods tohelp parents get access to the
tools, testing and educationthey need in order to start
reducing their child's tickdisorder symptoms, naturally,
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woo.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (01:11):
So she's a tick expert.
So, yes, and that's aco-mobility that can happen with
children with autism and ADHDfor sure.
So that's why I wanted her tocome on here and talk with us
today about how can we improveour children's nutrition right,
absolutely, because I like youto explain to the parents how
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important it is, how the rolenutrition plays in the way your
child behaves.
Dr. Piper Gibson (01:39):
So a lot of people just feel that food is
fuel.
You're going to eat it, you'regoing to fuel your body.
But we have to compare it to ifyou have a car that runs on
gasoline and you pull up to thegas station and you put diesel
in it your car it's probably notgoing to run so hot after that,
if at all.
So we have to look at whatwe're eating from the unique
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perspective that we are allbio-individual, meaning we are
just as unique on the inside asour fingerprints are on the
outside, and so it's reallyimportant to start to look at
our children and ourselves asindividuals and realize that
what food might be good for oneperson may not be great for
another person, and so that'sreally where we start to look at
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nutrition on this moreindividual scale and really
start to apply it to thechildren and the families that
we're working with.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (02:35):
Absolutely, yeah , absolutely right.
It will not run well.
So what parts does the thingslike sugars and all of those
things that kids eat commonly?
How does that affect the brain?
Dr. Piper Gibson (02:50):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
So we are a society thatconsumes an excessive amount of
sugar.
So when we start to look at 150years ago, we may have eaten in
our lives, in our year, a fivepound bag of sugar, which is
just the bag you buy at thegrocery store.
You had sugar.
Maybe your mom made a birthdaycake and everybody in the family
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had a slice, or you went to thestate fair and you had some
lemonade and maybe you had somecotton candy.
But sugar consumption 150 yearsago was very few and far
between.
What has happened in society aswe've gone through the
Industrial Revolution, as we'vestarted making these massive
amounts of packaged processedfoods, is we eat between 40 and
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60 really closer to 60 pounds ofsugar in a year.
That is an excessive amount ofsugar.
And when we look at therecommendations, it's really
only recommended that our kidsget no more than three added
teaspoons of sugar a day, whichisn't very much.
But when you start to look atthe packaged processed food,
when you start to look at youknow the treats that you're
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giving your kids, the yogurtthat we feel is healthy and is
just packed with 20 grams ofsugar.
I mean, for a regular child, 20grams of sugar from your yogurt
is your complete added sugarfor the day.
That's it.
You shouldn't have any moreadded sugar than that.
So we really start to look atsugar, for the, for the most
part, is not doing us any favors.
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We know that when we consumesugar it lowers our immune
system for up to 12 hours.
We get cold and flu likesymptoms when we consume too
much sugar and it's veryinflammatory to the brain.
So not only are we inflamingour gut with sugar, but when
that happens, because our gutand brain are connected, we are
really starting to inflame ourbrain with the sugar and it's
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not just the sugar.
we're going to talk about someother things too but the fact
that we have started consumingsugar processed food as the bulk
of our diet is reallydetrimental to our health.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (04:54):
Absolutely yes, and it's that goes for both
parents and kids.
Dr. Piper Gibson (04:59):
Absolutely Agreed.
It is not just for yourchildren.
I'm talking to you too.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (05:04):
We're talking to you, so yeah, so when parents,
often when I talk to my patientsabout okay, let's talk about
food, it's like thisoverwhelming subject what's an?
What are some strategies youhave how parents can address or
approach changing what theirchildren are eating?
Dr. Piper Gibson (05:24):
I think the easiest way to approach that is
to stop buying the packagedprocessed foods.
So you go to the grocery store,you spend all your time like
the granola bars and the poptarts and the treats.
Stop buying those packagedprocessed foods.
Spend your time on theoutskirts of the grocery store
focusing on the meat, thechicken, the pork, the animal
proteins, vegetables and fruit,Starting to look at what were
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people eating 150 years ago or athousand years ago.
That's going to be a lot closerto the diet that you should be
eating instead of yourconvenience Kraft macaroni and
cheese.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (06:00):
Yes, I hear you on that one.
So when parents often childrenwith autism and ADHD, they're
often extremely picky and havevery limited diets.
So can you explain why?
First of all, why that is andwhat can parents do about it?
Dr. Piper Gibson (06:17):
So I find with the people that I'm working
with, the families and the kidsthat I'm working with, is that
we are consuming a lot of dairyand gluten.
Let's go back to thatconvenient Kraft macaroni and
cheese.
Dairy and gluten Both dairy andgluten create a substance that
is very similar to opioids.
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So we have all of these peoplein the United States that are
addicted to opioids, topainkillers.
Well, gluten and dairy glutenmakes glutamorphine and dairy
makes case on morphine and theycombine to the opioid receptors
in your brain.
So we find that eating glutenand dairy can actually cause a
lot of brain fog, lack of focus,definitely picky eating.
When we start to pull thosethings out, you know my clients
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will be like my kids are eatingfoods I never imagined they
would eat and that's partiallybecause we are pulling out those
things for them that areaddictive, that gluten and dairy
.
It's addictive and that's allthey want to eat and it leads
them to have these very limiteddiets.
So we start to make thosechanges.
We start to see changes in thepicking this, but one of the
best ways to do that is with agateway flavors.
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So start to think about and askyour kids.
Have conversations with them.
Maybe you have a child thatloves pizza, pizzas their
favorite.
But what is about the pizzathat they love?
Is it the savory cheese and thesauce?
Is it the pepperoni?
Is it the garlic and the crust?
What are those flavors?
So let's say you analyze thisfood and you're like, oh, it's
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the garlic, they love garlic.
We'll start to think about whatelse can I put garlic on?
You can put garlic oneverything.
Or if your kid loves bacon,here's your gateway flavor.
Bacon is a great gateway flavor.
Use that bacon on broccoli, onasparagus, on you name it, put
the bacon with it.
So we start to look at whatthese gateway flavors are.
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What is it that your kid lovesand how can you incorporate
those into new foods?
And then you can do things likeyou know.
Just have one bite.
It tastes just like that pizzathat you love.
Or it tastes just like thatbacon that you love.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (08:20):
Now, that's a super easy way to look at it.
Yeah, that's absolutely, that'swonderful.
So gateway flavors, and thenwhat after that?
Dr. Piper Gibson (08:32):
And you really want to focus on making sure
that your kids are getting thenutrients that they need, and
this is one of the reasons thatwe start to focus on those whole
foods, you know, the meat, thefruits, the veggies, that kind
of thing.
But but as we're looking at itas our, as we're starting to
change diet, we want to makesure that they are, one, eating
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things that they enjoy, but, two, that they're getting that
nutrition.
So we start to look at you know, what are we having for
breakfast?
Well, if we're starting our daywith a bowl of cereal and I
love to tell my clients to throwthe Cheerios in the garbage
we're starting our day withcereal we're really missing out
on protein.
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Protein is essential for us tobe able to make
neurotransmitters, so thingslike serotonin and dopamine.
They're going to make us feelgood, they're going to make us
focus and function.
So when we start our morningoff with crumb cake and cereal,
we are missing that opportunityto make neurotransmitters that
are going to help us focus allday at school.
So we really have to startlooking at our meals.
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What are some really good waysthat we can encourage our kids
bodies to make neurotransmitters?
Start your breakfast your daywith a breakfast of protein.
You know, eggs and bacon.
Or you know, make a hash ifmaybe you're not eating eggs.
So really starting to look athow can we make sure that
they're getting the nutrientsthat they need.
I mean, you can always we cantalk about supplements as well,
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and that being another good wayto get some nutrients into kids.
So really starting to focus onokay, we've we've kind of passed
this, taking out the gluten anddairy.
We've passed this, adding inthe gateway flavors.
So, now that we've made thesechanges, how can we really start
to ramp it up?
Dr. Hokehe Eko (10:18):
Yeah, no, that's so important.
I like that how you're breakingit down, because lots of
parents feel overwhelmed withjust the when we say eat healthy
, right, how do I do that?
So thank you for addressingthat.
So what about children who areconstipated, which I find that's
the case in 99% of the patientsI see?
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Adh cannot send theirconstipated.
So what would you tell parents?
That would help their children,that would improve their
constipation.
Dr. Piper Gibson (10:47):
Yeah.
So there's a couple of thingsand there's several things we
can do when we talk aboutconstipation.
One is to kind of make surethat we're getting more fiber so
the fruits and the vegetablesare a really good way making
sure that they're getting plentyof magnesium.
Magnesium helps with that, withour muscle movement and our
peristalsis of the digestionthat we're doing.
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So are they getting enoughmagnesium?
Rich foods Starting to look atthat.
You can do pepsim salts, baths,which is very rich in magnesium
but can help with constipation.
But for me, when I start to lookat kids that I deal with some
kids with constipation is whyare you constipated?
For me, stool pathogen testinggives us the most answers we can
really start to look at.
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Well, why isn't this childgoing to the bathroom on a
regular basis?
And there's some supplementsthat you can put in to help
people start having bowelmovements, like magnesium.
But for me, as the holisticperspective, it's like let's
figure out why you're not goingin the first place.
For me, a stool pathogen testis really going to give us some
good clues.
I always say there's a clue inthe poo.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (11:49):
Oh, there is a clue in the poo.
That's absolutely correct.
So I know that kids are goingback to school and school
lunches, while we are trying tokeep them healthy, are often
processed full of sugar.
So how do parents address that,especially when most parents
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are working and the male may notwant to pack lunches for their
kids?
What are some ways you foundthat parents can still help
their kids be healthy overall?
Dr. Piper Gibson (12:21):
So you know I do this because my son was very
sick and when he got sick I wentto the school.
I said give me your list ofingredients.
And so I had this notebookthat's about this fat and I sat
down and I read everything and Iwas really, really, really
blown away by the fact that thehealthiest thing on the school
menu was the whole wheat donutBlown away.
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Everything else was full ofpreservatives, it was full of
sugar, it was full of nitrates,you name it.
The food at the school is lessthan optimal.
So you know, talking to yourkids and teaching them how they
can make healthier choices isone big thing.
And so if you have a schoolthat has a lot of foods that
they can choose from, you knowwhat's going to be the better
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option.
Should you get, you know, thegrilled chicken or should you
get the cheese pizza?
So helping them to learn how todecide for themselves like when
you're looking at the schoollunch tray like what's going to
be the best option for them toeat.
But you know, packing lunches isactually easier than a lot of
people think.
I always say make a bunch ofleftovers, make so much food
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that you have leftovers and youcan pack it.
So get a really good stainlesssteel thermos.
We like hydro flask.
You can get Arctic at Walmart.
It works just as well.
Make those leftovers, warm themup the next morning, pop them
in that thermos with maybe a QTorange, a good bottle of water.
Make sure your bottle of wateris stainless as well.
But really making that easierfor yourself, you can prepare a
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lot of the things that go inthose lunches in advance.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (13:55):
That's exactly right.
I have three kids, so yes,three kids with a big appetite.
I should say, yes, leftovers isa lifesaver and my kids joke
and laugh about how they nevertake sandwiches.
So I'm like but why, when doesall this?
Dr. Piper Gibson (14:11):
nice food.
I know my kids are in highschool, I have one graduating, I
have a junior and a senior andI am still making lunches,
because they will come home andsay I am not, that those are
just not good options.
So yeah, I mean I'm still in it, making lunches every single
day for two boys with hugeappetites.
I get it.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (14:31):
Yes, and I find that it's actually easier on me
as a parent when I cook in bulk,right, I just go buy the glass
storage containers and I stickit in the freezer and then all
we're doing is reheating stuff,and that takes an edge of stress
off of you.
If you feel like, oh, I don'twanna just start cooking right,
which is what you can be timeconsuming but if you just maybe
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take one day and prep and makethe meals, then it's easier.
So what's some advice you giveparents who are busy, like they
make?
Dr. Piper Gibson (15:03):
you busy.
Yes, this is my number oneadvice Get an instant pot.
Get an instant pot and get twoof the stainless steel pots that
go in it.
So I will.
For example, I have a big pot ofchili.
I made a big pot of chili.
My kids like it.
I know they're gonna eat it.
I know that I can put it inlunches and we can have it for a
dinner.
So then I have my instant pot.
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I make it all in the instantpot.
I got a silicone lid.
Thank you, amazon, for theinstant pot.
I take that instant pot, I cookthe chili, I serve it, I put
silicone lid on it, I put it inthe refrigerator.
I'm not transferring anything.
And let's just say, like, thenext night I need to use the
instant pot again.
I have two containers that Ican use to make something else
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the next day.
So it's become such a huge timesaver for me to like simple
recipes.
I threw in some nitrate-freekielbasa sausage, some ground
beef, some onions, some dicedtomatoes, green chili, some beef
broth and I made like a cowboystew.
So then everybody loved it.
Everybody ate it.
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Right, making things in theinstant pot save so much time.
I mean even doing the crock potto start it in the morning
before you go to work.
Come home it's ready.
I mean you can get a crock potnow that has Bluetooth on it.
You can check your phone and belike my crock pot's done ding.
I mean the ways that you canmake it easier on yourself.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (16:24):
Yes, yes, I absolutely agree.
I remember telling my kids thismorning Mommy is no longer
going to making pancakes in themorning because I started on
this thing about pancakes in themorning, like why am I doing
this to myself?
Dr. Piper Gibson (16:36):
And yes, a whole bunch Throughout the week
right, exactly.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (16:41):
So that's what I do.
And then in the pancakes tomake it extra, I add like
flaxseed and all this, becauseyou can add all sorts of things
in there and they have no ideas.
In there I really just say,like pancakes.
So so that's another way.
Yeah, definitely I like that.
So I didn't realize I need togo find the second pot, that one
I didn't think of, and I, andthen now I know about silicone
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lids, thank you, see, I'mlearning, taking notes, so yeah,
so what else?
What other advice would yougive to parents that you see,
and Just how can they teachtheir kids?
You know how at schools youhave, you often have candy for,
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or treats and all of thosethings.
I find that, like I have asix-year-old and I teach her
okay, don't, we don't eat allthat stuff at home, but at
school, of course she gravitatesfor it because she never sees
it right.
So what?
What do you tell parents?
Like, how can they help theirchildren, like prepare their
children to Not give it totemptation at school?
Dr. Piper Gibson (17:45):
I think it's a matter of educating them.
Our kids are smart and we cansit down with them and have a
Conversation about what theyshould and should not be eating
and giving them the reasons whythey should and should not be
eating it.
I mean, and you can do thatwith little kids I have kids
that I work with, five and sixyears old, who their parents
have taught them to say no,thank you.
Your teacher's like oh, here'sthe reward.
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No, thank you.
Well, those moms and dads goand buy pencils, erasers, little
things that they can hand tothe teacher and say please don't
hand my child a piece of candyas a reward, but you can give
them one of these things.
And then I think it's also amatter of educating the schools.
I am not above going to schooland being like listen, stop
handing out the candy.
Let's think of some otherthings that we can give out as
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rewards to kids that are notjunk because Teachers are gonna
pay for it.
You hand your kids out a bunchof candy at 10 o'clock in the
morning, at 2 o'clock in themorning.
Everyone's gonna be a realtreat.
So they will we really have tostart to think about?
Food is not a reward.
It is not.
Yes.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (18:47):
Definitely, food is not a reward, because then
they can go the other extremeright, start overeating, which
that's a whole, not a topic.
So, yes, I agree, so that'swonderful.
Um, what else would you adviseparents like um, as they, as
they just get ready for schoolwith their kids?
What are things that theyshould watch out for in terms of
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nutrition?
Dr. Piper Gibson (19:10):
Yeah, I mean one is really making sure that
we kids go back to school.
They get sick because thenthey're around all the germs.
Like really looking at, is yourkid getting enough Vitamin D?
Are they spending enough timeout in the sun?
Are we supporting their immunesystem?
If you're eating a bunch ofsugar and junk, you're not
supporting your child's immunesystem.
So, yes, they're more likely togo to school and get sick.
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Um, but I think it's.
I really think it's not aboutBack to school or going to
school.
It's about doing this educationpiece all the time, like having
open, honest conversations withyour kids.
And if you, as a parent, don'tfeel like you really understand
what healthy food is, there arepeople out there who can help
you with this.
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People like myself, people likedr Echo, who can say, hey,
we're going to give you someinformation on what are these
things that are going to be goodand what are these things that
are going to be bad, and sitdown and educate your kids about
the things that they're puttinginto their body.
I mean my, I really like thisanalogy because it really hits
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home for parents.
But I say to a lot of theparents they're like, well, I
don't.
Just, I just don't know if wecan give up gluten.
And I say, would you go down tothe corner drug dealer and buy
your kid a bag of cocaine ifthey were addicted to drugs?
And they were like, well, no,heck, no, I wouldn't do that.
You're not doing them anyfavors, giving them the sugar,
the gluten and the dairy and thejunk.
So you have to start to thinkof it, as these things can be
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addicting, they can beproblematic.
How can we, how can wecircumvent this mess?
Dr. Hokehe Eko (20:42):
Absolutely Wow.
Dr. Piper Gibson (20:44):
Yes.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (20:44):
I love the analogy, I think.
Dr. Piper Gibson (20:46):
I'm going to borrow that, please.
I think I borrowed it fromsomebody else, I don't remember.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (20:51):
I shocked some parents into it shocked me.
Yeah, it's the truth, becausethose things are addictive.
Yeah, absolutely so.
Wow, yes, you're absolutelyright.
It's not just about going backto school, it's the lifestyle
change.
It's parents.
It has to start with you.
Our kids will do more what theysee you doing versus what you
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say.
So if we're telling our kidsdon't eat sugar, and there you
are with the sodas and whateverelse is going on, then they're
not going to listen right andthey're going to keep doing the
same thing.
And I always tell parentschange your grocery list,
because I found that parentslike to say hey, did you hear
the doctor?
Don't do that.
Dr. Piper Gibson (21:36):
Don't have it in the house.
I think that is the biggest key, and you usually hear adult
women talk about this becausethey're like I can't stop eating
the potato chips, don't have itin the house.
If you're going to eat aboatload of it, just don't have
in the house.
And then you can tell your kidssorry, we don't have any, we're
out of stock.
You know they didn't have it atthe grocery store and I really
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stressed to parents Most of thetime.
Yes, I have older kids now, butwhen they were little they
didn't have a car, they didn'thave a job, they weren't paying
for the groceries.
I had ultimate cosmic powerover, besides what they were
going to school, but you knowwhat they were really eating at
home, and so they would see useat it.
Then they would eat it, and nowthey're at the stage where
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they're like, yeah, I'm notgoing to eat those things.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (22:21):
That's so important, so this has been so
wonderful.
So let's talk about ticks for alittle bit.
How often do ticks show up inchildren with autism and ADHD,
and what I think parents canwatch out for to give them a
heads up that this might bewhat's going on?
Dr. Piper Gibson (22:39):
So you know, tick disorders are a definitely
a co, more co, more of a d ofADHD, ocd, spd, autism.
So what we look at for tickdisorders and my perspective,
perspective is not conventional,but we you know for my son he
started rapidly blinking hiseyes and we went to the doctor
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and said allergies, just takesome allergy medicine.
And that wasn't it.
And then he started jerking hisneck.
So tick disorders If you've hada tick disorder, that's either
motor or vocal.
So there's two types of ticksmotor and vocal.
Motor would be, you know,clapping the hands, blinking the
eyes.
Vocal is throat clearing ormaybe they say a word over and
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over again.
If they've had a combination ofboth for a year, they can get a
Tourette syndrome diagnosis.
But what, what we're reallyseeing with kids who have ticks,
kids who have Tourette's, kidswho have ADHD, kids who have
autism, when we start to look atthe studies, the great study
came out last year talking aboutTourette's and the co
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morbidities and things that comewith it and really are stemming
from an imbalanced immunesystem.
So why is your immune system inbalance?
Well, you have about 90% ofyour immune system in your gut.
What are you eating?
Do you have intestinalpermeability.
So I really start to look atthis whole connection from the
(24:03):
gut and the brain.
What are we, what are we not?
And not just what you're eating, but in your environment as
well chemicals, toxins, thosekinds of things.
So I start to look at thisinflammation and imbalanced
immune system for all of thosekind of you know childhood
chronic illnesses that we areseeing on a very significant
(24:24):
rise at this point.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (24:26):
Yep, it's like an epidemic going on.
You mentioned something yousaid repeating words.
Right, and that's somethingthat you often see in children
with autism.
They can they repeat words.
So it's like, so you parentsjust really need to be keeping
their eyes open and their earsopen and write things down.
Or I say, take a video orsomething and show to your
(24:47):
doctor.
You know, that's what I usuallyencourage parents to do and
don't just overlook what thesymptoms are going on.
Dr. Piper Gibson (24:54):
You know, I tell parents that you know tick
disorders autism, adhd, sensoryprocessing, ocd.
I think that is a diagnosis,it's, it's a label, but that's
not the problem.
That is a sign that there is aproblem.
Those are symptoms that you areexperiencing.
And so when we look at theconventional approach for tick
(25:16):
disorders, they say ticks arejust neurological.
Ignore them, maybe they'll growout.
Grow out of them.
From my perspective, ticks arenot purely neurological.
There's something else going ondownstream.
Let's figure out what it is.
So I agree with you take avideo, write things down, get a
notebook, everything your kidputs in your their mouth, write
(25:37):
it down, you know, reallystarting to document where those
signs and symptoms are comingfrom.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (25:43):
Yes, definitely, because it's so important,
because we want to catch thingsearly, right, because the
earlier we catch it, the earlierwe can hopefully reverse it and
get the kid on the path tosuccess, versus late diagnosis.
And we have kids struggling,and struggling, and struggling.
So, yes, parents, please payattention to what's going on,
(26:05):
and there's no such thing as thesilly questions Always best to
ask.
I mean, reach out to Dr Piper,reach out to me and ask the
questions so that we don't missthings for our kids that can be
treated.
You know Exactly Right.
So, okay, that's wonderful.
And where can parents find moreabout you?
And I know you have your book,but please tell them where they
(26:27):
can find you.
Dr. Piper Gibson (26:28):
So you can find me at www.
regenerating.
health, not com, health.
I also am on Facebook andInstagram at regenerating health
and I have a private Facebookgroup called Tick Disorder
Secrets (26:43):
a natural approach.
You can join the group.
We share recipes, we shareideas.
I've got, you know, a wholebunch of members in there, so
it's a great place to find meand get connected.
But, yeah, that's how you findme.
Dr. Hokehe Eko (26:57):
Wonderful.
So thank you so much for yourtime and for and just this
amazing conversation we just had, and I hope, parents, that you
find it's helpful and watch itagain if you need to and just,
and, and just stop putting inpractice the things we've talked
about to help your child andyourself be the best you can be.
(27:19):
So thank you once again, Dr.
Piper.
Dr. Piper Gibson (27:21):
Thank you, Dr.
Eko, for having me.
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