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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome back to the
Reflection Room everyone.
Today we're kind of rewinding,going back to season seven of
Brand the Interpreter andrevisiting an episode that had a
lot of, like, really practicaladvice.
So we're going to be divinginto Corinne McKay and she had
just some really incredibleinsights from her journey as a
(00:34):
seasoned translator andinterpreter.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, I mean it's
really interesting to hear her
story.
And she combines, you know thatlove for language, but then
also the really savvy businessskills that you need to thrive
as a freelancer.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, it's almost
like her early dream of becoming
a poet kind of set the stagefor her eventual success in the
business world.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Totally, and you know
it's interesting to think about
how much the industry haschanged, even from when she
started out, Like she wasactually discouraged by a
professor who thought computerswould replace translators.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Wow yeah, talk about
a misconception.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
But it speaks to her
resilience that she not only
persevered but, like, carved outthis thriving career and, you
know, especially considering shetook the plunge into full time
freelancing right after herdaughter was born.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Oh, wow.
Imagine cold calling agencieswith a baby on your lap.
That takes serious dedication.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Definitely.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You know.
Her story really, I think,underscores the importance of
marketing yourself effectively,especially in today's landscape.
Absolutely, it's so competitive.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, and Corinne's
philosophy is like to market
every second.
You don't have paying work.
So it's that proactive approachthat can make all the
difference.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It's such a stark
contrast to how you know some of
the older professionals mighthave entered the field.
You know back when it was moreword of mouth and a simple
business card were enough.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Today it's all about,
you know, building a strong
online presence, reaching out toclients directly.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And speaking of
direct clients, Corinne had this
brilliant strategy of targetingimmigration law firms.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And it's just a
perfect example of finding your
niche and becoming that go-toexpert in a specific area.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, this really
highlights the steps involved in
finding your ideal clientsRight.
It starts with identifying whatyou're truly good at than
researching and contactingpotential clients within that
specialization.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And Corinne.
You know she stresses theimportance of crafting concise
emails that clearly demonstrateyour value.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
She even suggests
keeping those emails under 125
words.
You know, it's about makingevery word count and leaving
that lasting impression.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, it's about
shifting from that spam
mentality to a service mindset.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Instead of bombarding
everyone with generic messages,
focus on how your skills cansolve the client-specific
problems.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah.
So instead of saying here'swhat I do, it's saying here's
how I can help you.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It's subtle, but it's
a powerful shift in perspective
.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, and this ties
in nicely with Corinne's advice
on networking you know, joiningprofessional associations like
the Colorado TranslatorsAssociation or the American
Translators Association.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
These provide
invaluable support and guidance.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
She actually credits
those associations with helping
her navigate the early stages ofher career and connect with
other professionals.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, it's like
having a built in network of
mentors and colleagues.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Who understand the
unique challenges and rewards of
the field.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And don't
underestimate the power of
strategic volunteering.
Oh interesting, corrine gavethis example of an educational
interpreter who wanted to workwith Spanish speaking families
and she suggested, you know,maybe partnering with a speech
therapist offering webinars,making those resources
accessible to a wider audience.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
That's a brilliant
idea.
I mean what a great way toshowcase your skills while
simultaneously making a positiveimpact.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Exactly so smart yeah
.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, it's a
fantastic example of you know
offering your skills in aservice oriented way and how
that can open up you knowopportunities.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Right, it all comes
back to that idea of being
useful and solving problems foryour clients.
But Corinne's insights gobeyond just marketing and
networking.
She also delved into, you know,the nitty gritty of running a
successful freelance business.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, and one key
area she highlighted there was
the importance of personalbranding.
You know, in today's digitalworld, your online presence is
essentially your storefront.
Yeah, when potential clientsGoogle your name, what do they
find?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Exactly, it's not
just about having a website,
it's about creating thatcohesive and professional online
identity.
Yeah, corinne stressed theimportance of having, even
having, a professional headshot.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Right.
All of those elements worktogether to establish you as a
credible and trustworthy expert.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
It's about showing
potential clients that you take
your business seriously.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And she didn't just
stop at appearances.
She also gave some reallypractical tips for optimizing
your LinkedIn profile.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
She suggested
highlighting your unique skills
and accomplishments usingkeywords that your target
audience might be searching for,and even reaching out for
recommendations from satisfiedclients.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Oh, that's a good one
.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, because those
testimonials can be so
persuasive for someone who's,you know, trying to decide
whether to hire you Right.
It's like a social proof thatyou deliver on your promises.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And let's not forget
the power of engagement.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Corinne emphasized
the importance of actively
participating on LinkedIn,commenting on posts, sharing
relevant articles, joiningindustry groups.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's all about, you
know, building relationships and
positioning yourself as avaluable contributor.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It's a way to stay
top of mind and show potential
clients that you're not justanother name in a directory, but
that you're an active andengaged professional.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
But building a
successful freelance business
isn't just about attractingclients.
It's also about managing themeffectively.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And Corrine had some
fantastic advice on setting
boundaries and managing clientexpectations.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, this is where
things get really crucial.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You know, freelancing
offers flexibility but it also
requires discipline.
You need to establish clearboundaries from the start to
avoid burnout and maintain thosehealthy client relationships.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
One of her top tips
was to always have a written
contract Right that clearlyoutlines the scope of the work,
deadlines, payment terms.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Right.
It might seem formal, but itprotects both you and the client
from misunderstandings.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Exactly Down the road
.
It sets clear expectations andensures that everyone is on the
same page from day one.
I like that Exactly On the road.
It sets clear expectations andensures that everyone is on the
same page from day one.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I like that, yeah,
being on the same page.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Corinne also
recommended establishing clear
communication channels andsticking to them.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
So you know, if you
prefer to communicate via email,
make that clear up front.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Right.
It's about managing thoseexpectations and preventing
situations where clients areconstantly, you know, trying to
reach you by phone or text.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Outside of agreed
upon hours.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And sometimes setting
boundaries means learning to
say no.
Corinne emphasized theimportance of turning down
projects that don't align withyour expertise or availability.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, that can be
tough, especially when you're
starting out eager to take onany project that comes your way.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, but, as Corrine
pointed out, saying yes to
everything can lead to overwhelmand ultimately lower the
quality of your work.
Right, she used a great analogyThink of yourself as a jar.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And each project is a
rock.
Okay, you can only fit so manyrocks in the jar before it
overflows.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, that's a good
one.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
It's a powerful
reminder that we have finite
time and energy.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And speaking of time
and energy, Corinne had some
excellent advice on managingthose precious resources.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
It all comes down to
being organized and prioritizing
tasks effectively.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
She suggested
creating a dedicated workspace
to help you separate yourprofessional and personal life.
This can be as simple as havinga designated desk or a room
where you can focus on workwithout distractions.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It's about creating a
mental shift as much as a
physical one.
Right, it helps signal to yourbrain that it's time to work
Exactly when you're in thatspace.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Corinne also
recommended using tools and
systems to streamline yourworkflow.
Yeah, Corinne also recommendedusing tools and systems to
streamline your workflow.
This might include projectmanagement software, time
tracking apps or cloud-basedstorage solutions.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It's about finding
what works best for you and help
you stay on top of yourdeadlines and deliverables.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And once you have
those systems in place, it's all
about prioritizing tasks andfocusing on the most important
items first.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Right Don't get
bogged down in busy work.
Right Identify the tasks thatwill have the biggest impact on
your business and tackle thosefirst.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And for all the list
makers out there.
Corinne is a big fan of theto-do list.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
She suggested
breaking down large projects
into smaller, more manageabletasks.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Right, that can make
them feel less overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Classic time
management technique, but it's
effective for a reason it helpsyou break down those daunting
projects into bite-sized piecesthat you can tackle one step at
a time.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And when it comes to
managing your time, Corrine is
all about scheduling.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
She recommended
blocking out specific time slots
for different tasks, whetherit's client work, marketing,
administrative tasks or evenpersonal time.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Right.
It's about being intentionalwith your time and making sure
that you're allocating enoughtime for all the important
aspects of your work and life.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, and it helps
you avoid overcommitting, which
can lead to stress and misseddeadlines.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Speaking of deadlines
, Corinne stressed the
importance of setting realisticones and avoiding the temptation
to say yes to everything.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
It's better to
under-promise and over-deliver
than to disappoint clients bysetting unrealistic expectations
.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And finally, Corinne
reminded us to take care of
ourselves.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Oh, that's important.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
She emphasized the
importance of taking regular
breaks throughout the day toprevent burnout and maintain
focus.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
That sounds
counterintuitive, but sometimes
stepping away from your work fora few minutes each hour can
actually increase yourproductivity.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
It allows your brain
to rest and recharge, which can
lead to greater creativity andfocus when you return to your
work.
Yeah, it's like hitting thereset button for your
productivity.
It allows your brain to restand recharge, which can lead to
greater creativity and focuswhen you return to your work.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, it's like
hitting the reset button for
your brain.
Corrine also talked about theimportance of having a
supportive community, especiallyas a freelancer Right you know,
connecting with otherfreelancers, whether online or
in person, can provide a senseof camaraderie, shared
experiences and valuable advice.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, it's so easy to
feel isolated when you're
working from home.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So having that
network of people who understand
the unique challenges andrewards of freelancing can be a
game changer.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Absolutely.
Sharing those challenges andsuccesses with others can be
incredibly validating andempowering.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
It reminds you that
you're not alone in this journey
.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Corinne's insights on
building a sustainable and
fulfilling freelance career gobeyond just the practicalities
of running a business Right.
She really emphasized theimportance of mindset and
resilience.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
That's so key.
Freelancing is a roller coasterride with its share of
exhilarating highs andchallenging lows.
Right, you need to develop themental fortitude to navigate
those ups and downs.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
She had some great
tips for staying motivated even
when faced with setbacks.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
One thing that stuck
with me was her advice to
celebrate your wins, no matterhow small.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
It's easy to get
caught up in the never-ending
to-do list and forget toacknowledge our accomplishments.
Taking a moment to appreciatethose wins whether it's landing
a new client or simply making itthrough a tough week can boost
your morale and fuel yourmotivation.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
It's a reminder that
you're making progress, even
when it feels like you're stuckin a rut.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And, speaking of
progress, corinne also stressed
the importance of focusing onyour long-term goals.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, why did you
start freelancing in the first
place?
Right?
What are you working towards?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Keeping those goals
in mind can provide a sense of
purpose and direction, even whenfaced with obstacles.
Totally, and let's face it,rejection is a part of the
freelance world.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
It is.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Corinne had a really
interesting perspective on
dealing with it.
Okay, she encouraged viewingrejection as an opportunity to
learn and refine your approach.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Oh, interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So, instead of
dwelling on the no, she suggests
analyzing what might havecontributed to it.
Okay, was your pitch notcompelling enough?
Did you target the wrongaudience?
Could you have improved yourproposal?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, it's about
turning those rejections into
valuable learning experiences.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
And perhaps most
importantly, Corinne emphasized
the importance of not takingrejection personally.
Oh, that's hard.
It's easy to internalize thoseno's and start doubting your
abilities.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But remember,
rejection is often a matter of
fit, timing or other factorsoutside of your control.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Don't let it derail
your confidence or dampen your
enthusiasm.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, embrace it as
part of the journey and keep
moving forward.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Speaking of moving
forward.
One of the most inspiringtakeaways from Corinne's episode
was her emphasis on continuouslearning and growth.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
She actually shared a
story about how she decided to
learn simultaneous interpretinglater in her career, even though
she initially thought it wastoo late.
Wow, it was a big challenge,but it ultimately opened up
exciting new opportunities andbrought her to a new level of
fulfillment.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It's a powerful
reminder that it's never too
late to learn new skills andexpand your horizons.
Freelancing is a journey ofcontinuous growth and evolution.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Absolutely, and
that's a perfect note to end on.
Corinne's journey and herinsights are a testament to the
power of combining passion,skill and a dedication to
continuous learning.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Huge thank you to
Corinne McKay for sharing her
wisdom and experience on Brand,the Interpreter, and thank you
all for joining us in theReflection Room today.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
We hope this rewind
has sparked some new ideas and
inspired you to embrace thepossibilities of your own
freelance journey.