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February 4, 2025 • 72 mins

In this episode of Brave UX, Brendan welcomes Lawton Pybus, Principal and Co-Founder of Drill Bit Labs. Join them as they dive into the evolving landscape of UX amidst recent tech layoffs. Lawton shares insights from his extensive research on UX job markets and discusses the importance of valuing UX in organizations. With a blend of personal anecdotes—including a ‘fun’ story about a venomous snake—this conversation highlights key trends, challenges, and the potential role of AI in UX. Listeners will find valuable advice for navigating their careers and fostering resilience in the UX field. Don’t miss this insightful and entertaining discussion!

 

Highlights include:

  • 00:00 - Introduction
  • 02:15 - Job Market Analysis
  • 05:45 - Real-Time Tracking of UX Roles
  • 10:30 - Lawton’s Personal Journey
  • 15:00 - Impact of Recent Layoffs in UX
  • 20:40 - The Demand for UX Skills
  • 25:15 - The PAIR Framework and AI in UX
  • 30:00 - Ethical AI Use in UX Research
  • 35:10 - The Importance of Independent Thought
  • 40:00 - Closing Thoughts

Who is Lawton Pybus

Lawton is a Principal and Co-founder of Drill Bit Labs. With a background in human factors, he has prior experience leading UX research teams at UserTesting, UserZoom, and MeasuringU and executing research on teams at Charles Schwab and Cabela's. He is the author of many insightful blog posts and regularly speaks at industry conferences like UXPA.

 

Find Lawton Here

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