May 7, 2025 • 49 mins
Originally aired in 2021. This republished episode still hits home.
In this raw and personal episode of Breach Your Mind, Bryan and Chris revisit the timeless question: What’s my purpose—and how the hell do I find it?
Bryan shares how a message seen on a church bathroom wall—“Be still and listen”—became a guiding principle through his journey from teenage firefighter to seasoned law enforcement leader. Chris opens up about the emptiness he felt after leaving the military and how a spontaneous act of compassion revealed his deeper purpose.
🎯 Topics covered:
- Finding meaning in misery
- How your strengths may already be pointing you toward purpose
- The role of signs, silence, and reflection
- Why your purpose doesn’t need to be grand—it just needs to be real
Whether you're in transition, feeling stuck, or just questioning what's next, this episode is a reminder: Purpose doesn't shout. It whispers. You just have to get quiet enough to hear it.
💬 We'd love to hear your story. Email us at breachyourmind@gmail.com or connect via social.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Team 1, stand by.
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Team 1 standing by BreachBreach Breach.
Hey guys, welcome back toBreach your Mind.
Tonight we're gonna, I guess,keep on the same serious path,
as Chris called it earlier.
(00:21):
As Chris called it earlier,we're going to talk about
finding a purpose.
Don't know about a lot ofpeople, but I constantly think,
not just like what, about whatI'm in, or anything like that,
but I'm constantly thinking, mybrain's constantly coming up
with different ideas and askingdifferent questions, and, quite
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a while ago, found myself in aposition where I was doing a job
that I liked.
I was working outside, which Ilove to do, but I wasn't exactly
happy.
It wasn't.
It wasn't bringing me any joy,if you, if you want to put it
that way and I wound up askingthe question to myself a lot of
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times what is, what is thepurpose?
Why?
Why was I given the intellectthat I have?
Why was I given the size that Ihave, the drive that I have?
Why was I given so many thingsthat I felt were abilities that
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I wasn't really using?
And I questioned it for a longtime.
And one day I got to thinkingback back to when I was a
teenager and try not to laugh.
But I was a teenager and I wasin my church and I'd gone into
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the bathroom and just as I gotdone washing my hands and was
about to walk out, I looked upand saw this wallpaper, this
border wallpaper, going aroundthe top of the bathroom and it
was a tree with a personstanding looking at the tree and
all it said was be still andlisten, and even to this day, I
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thought it was something like aBible verse.
Matter of fact, I spent quite abit of time trying to find that
specific Bible verse, because Iwas actually going to read the
Bible verse that it come from.
But come to find out in theBible it talks about being still
listening and things like thata lot, and what.
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That particular phrase that Iread so many years ago didn't
pop up in any of the verses thatI was reading and me take it in
the sense that I took it thenand then, when I was in my early
20s, applying it then Becausesee the way I took it was I was
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basically blocking myself, I wasthinking too much about it and
what I needed to do wasbasically shut up You've already
asked a question Shut up andwait to be told what the answer
was.
So I started doing that moreWhenever the question would pop
in my mind, which is usually ona hot summer day and I'm in some
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sign that's probably 120degrees in there and I'm
sweating my balls off, changinga huge thousand watt light bulb
or something, or using a shovel.
I'm not a big fan of digginglarge holes with a shovel, um,
but it usually pop up aroundthose times that I would
question you know why, why this,why that?
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Um?
So one day it just kind of hitme.
It kind of hit me that what Ihad done my whole life was not
to try to make money, it was Ihelped people.
Going back to when I was 16years old in my hometown, I
joined the volunteer firedepartment at 16.
So at 16 years old I was goingaround and helping the certified
firefighters put out fires andwork crashes and do things like
that.
Then, when I got out of highschool, I quit working the
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volunteer fire department and Ijoined up with the military,
spent a little bit of time thereand left out of there, only to
find myself in this job that,while I liked it, it didn't
really kind of give me anyfulfillment or joy.
And it wasn't until a little bitdown from that, you know, when
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I finally figured out that whatI'd done my whole life was just
help people.
You know, even when it come tofriends and family, you know, I
would move friends and familyinto my home and try to help
them out, and at times it was tothe despair of my family when
it comes to finances.
But you know, we were willingto do it.
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We had family and friends thatneeded help and that's what we
did.
So it only made sense to mewhen I finally cast a lot of
care aside, because one of thethings that I'd always thought
about doing was, you know, beingin law enforcement, and I was
kind of scared to go do it.
For the simple fact of, youknow, I had a bunch of friends
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that didn't like cops.
As a matter of fact, my wife isnot a fan of cops, yet she's
been with one for almost 16years.
No god, I'm way off yeah, you'reway off yeah, way off when she
edits smack the shit out of youyes, she is, so wait, it's 2021.
Yeah, we'll have been together.
(05:37):
February will be 23 years we'vebeen together.
Yeah, you're a little ways offthere, buddy.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
That's what I said when you said 16, I was like
they said that.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
But I looked at the screen and you were like nodding
.
So I was like, oh, we're good.
And I was well we were.
We were still on the fact thatshe doesn't like cops yeah, but
oh god, wow, I haven't just itdidn't sound right when it come
out I was like god, that didn'tseem that long.
I've been on the job for almost16 years but been married for
almost well, been with heralmost 23, married 22.
(06:11):
Sorry, babe, but you know shewas not a fan of cops Still not
a huge fan of cops.
Cops still not a huge fan ofcops.
Um, but that being said, youknow I finally decided to put a
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bunch of that aside and stopworrying about what everybody
else liked and whether or notthey would still be my friend
and decided to go ahead and doit.
And that's what I've been doingfor the last almost 16 years is
is being a cop.
You know, finding myself goingand trying to help people,
regardless of what the situationis.
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I've talked about it before withother people.
There's been plenty ofsituations where I'm in that I'm
in the car on the way homeafter a you know big incident,
and the only thought that runsthrough my head is you know big
incident.
And the only thought that runsthrough my head is oh, that was
stupid.
Why did I do that?
Mainly because you know I'llthink about what needs to be
done and do it, and thenafterwards all the other stuff
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comes in on what could have gonewrong.
I was talking about that withsomebody last week, but that's
what I've been doing and that'swhat's given me my joy.
That's what's what my purposefelt that it was was simply to
help people and whatever facetthat was.
So that was that was how howthat all went for me.
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That was how how that all wentfor me.
What about you?
You, uh, what's your, what'syour thoughts on purpose?
I know we talked before we uhhit the record there, but what's
your thoughts on it?
Um?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
trying to get my thoughts together.
Three 30s catching up to me, um, I'm kind of in the same boat
as you Now, in my late 20s,creeping up on 30, I'm very
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goal-driven and I feel like Ihave to have some purpose.
If I'm doing something, therehas to be a purpose to it, and I
find satisfaction in especiallywhat I do now.
But prior to joining themilitary, especially after I
graduated high school, I hadthat down period of time where I
was just I mean, dude, I washanging out on my dad's couch in
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North Carolina and all myfriends were going off to school
and literally I lived for theweekend, like I would wake up
and play video games and eatjunk food and just be a lazy
piece of shit, leave a mess.
My dad would come home fromwork and I put that in
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quotations because he, you know,worked at a driving range, you
know, so it was real strenuouson him.
Hey, work's work man.
Hey, work's work.
You're right.
I mean he still had to get upearly and stuff.
So I mean good for him.
And you know I'd be laying onthe day of laundry that I was
supposed to put away.
You know, and Really my dadwanted me to do something with
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my life.
Obviously he also knew that Ididn't really have any sort of
direction and he would joke, buthe wasn't joking when he said
you need to get your ass off mycouch and go do something.
You know he would joke, we'dlaugh about it and then we'd
watch football or whatever wewere doing.
But I knew he was serious and Ihad to take a look in a mirror
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one day and say what are youdoing with your life?
You know, and, uh, and, andthat's what it took for me to
take that leap.
I mean, one night I, I looked athim.
I said, hey, I'm going to therecruiter in the morning.
You want to go with me?
So I got to work.
So okay, so I'll go by myself.
Well then, I think at somepoint he went with me and he
(10:23):
talked to the recruiter orwhatever, but I don't think it
was the first trip.
Um, so I, I drove my ass to the, to the recruiter, and and sat
down and and and talked with him.
Um, I'll never forget he wasthat typical recruiter you hear
about.
Oh, speaking of recruiters, bythe way, it is 11, 11.
So happy veterans day, happyveterans day, sir.
I appreciate it, appreciate yourservice.
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This country appreciates yourservice.
Don't ever forget it.
So anyways, as I was saying, hewas the typical recruiter.
You know, drove a damn Camaro,you know, mr, thank me for my
service.
But and I ate that shit up, andI was.
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I mean, he saw me walk in thedoor and he said, yeah, buddy, I
got this sucker and luckily Ihad some some pretty influential
people that I knew, so I wasable to get you know what I
wanted.
Now, did I necessarily fulfillthat initial contract agreement?
(11:29):
No, I didn't.
But you know, I was able to atleast enlist with the contract
that I wanted to.
It didn't.
It didn't necessarily mean that, hey, this is what you're going
to be.
It was hey, this is, you're setup to go down this pipeline.
If you can hack it, I could.
Um, so the military was reallyfulfilling and I had a sense of
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purpose there and I loved everyminute of it, even the times
where I'm sitting there freaking, picking weeds out of a bunch
of rocks or sweeping a dirtmotor pool, like I mean, looking
back on it now, I'm like dude,that was, that was the shit.
(12:14):
You know, I got to run aroundthe woods and blow shit up.
That was fun.
You know what I mean.
Um, but obviously, over time Imet my fiance, now my wife, and
at that point in time the uh, myreenlistment window wasn't
there.
Um, to where I wanted to go,and I, I opted out.
(12:40):
The scariest part of transitionwas getting out, and getting out
of the military was what thehell do I do next?
I can get that, and I mean itdrove me.
It drove me straight to abottle of alcohol.
Like I mean, I'm telling you,from the time I got up to the
time I went to bed, that's whatI was doing, because I just I
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had no clue, I had no direction.
I just knew I was getting out,yeah, and I didn't.
I didn't want to go to school,even though everybody that you
know talks about getting out and, oh, I'm gonna go to school,
I'm a party, I'm a smoke weed,whatever.
Um, but that's a bunch of lipservice, that's just what that.
People just say that justbecause they think that's what
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people want to hear.
Yeah, um, and some people go dothat and they're successful at
it.
I, I could, I wouldn't havebeen successful at school, um,
not at that point in my life.
Um, so I was.
I was talking to my, you know, afamily member and he was like,
well, what about law enforcement?
You know it's, it'sparamilitary.
I did it for.
You know he did it for20-something years.
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So I said, okay, cool, I lookinto it and figured out what I
had to do to get into it and Iwas like, oh shit, I can put
myself through this with thepost-9-11 GI Bill.
I said, great, I'll get paidwhile I'm there, it'll work out
great.
So, you know, there were somehiccups along the way and but.
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But eventually I got myselfsigned up and went through the
academy.
I ate up the academy.
I loved it, you know it was.
I mean, it was gravy comparedto what I'd been through.
And but I was learning.
You know I got to drive carsand you know you're, you know
learning laws and stuff, andthat stuff interests me.
You know, from the, from thefirst day I sat down and they
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started teaching you, you know,basic criminal procedure.
That stuff interested me.
I was like, damn hell, yeah,this is my cup of tea that was
the hardest class for me to stayawake.
Yeah, everybody else is likehalf falling asleep and I'm, I'm
loving it, like I thought itwas great.
And then, uh, you know, youstart getting into the, you
start getting into the actual,you know laws of the state and
and I actually studied like Icouldn't believe it.
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But I actually, like studied.
I never studied in school, soat that point in time I realized
, okay, well, this is this, isit right here, this?
And to this day I've got guysthat are that I work with and
you know you and me have bothsaid this, even even on this
podcast.
Some days we're just like whydo we even do this shit?
You know it's.
(15:08):
You know, sometimes you're justlike this shit ain't worth it.
But and I think that's anythinganybody does there's not going
to be, you're not going to behappy every single day.
But I've got guys that you knowthey're around around the same
amount of time.
We haven't been in lawenforcement since the birth of
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Christ, like you, but I mean,we've been in a decent amount of
time.
And they look at me and they'relike dude, I hope one day I can
come into work and have theattitude that you have.
One day I can come into workand have the attitude that you
have and I know that probablysurprises you because you, I
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used to have to work for you,but but it's true, like I, I
come in and, dude, I love thisshit, I love, I mean, I love it
and I there was a period of timethat you remember that I was
looking at jobs outside of lawenforcement because I wasn't
sure if I was going to be ableto get a job in the state I'm in
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now.
Just, it was very difficult toeven get a call back and it's
mostly because of the, theregion that I'm at, that I'm in,
that I'm in it's burning.
You know, freaking, billy Bobis the sheriff and freaking, he
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hires all his damn cousins andthat's it, like nobody else but
family.
It's it's still real ruralwhere I'm at, and so it's really
hard, you know, not necessarily, you know, even for in-state
people, but coming from atotally different state, not
knowing anybody, it was hard toget a job.
Luckily I found one, but, dude,I was miserable, like I would
be on like Indeedcom and stuff,like trying to find jobs.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I was absolutely depressed.
I remember Like it was horrible.
So, yeah, like once you findthat purpose in your life and
you find that, that, that whereyou get that gratification, it's
, it's a game changer, it's ahundred percent game changer.
Yeah yeah, I think you know Ithink.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I think during that time you were trying to find a
job up there, you were uh,you're also talking about
selling insurance.
You had said something aboutselling insurance.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
You had said something about selling
insurance.
Yeah, I talked about getting myCDL.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, I was going to say if you sold insurance, make
sure it's like life insurance orsomething.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I mean, yeah, I mean it's.
I mean it was.
It was horrible that that partof my life.
It was a very short period oftime in my life, but I had to
figure a way to get up here tomy wife.
I had to, I had no other choiceand she was on my back about it
.
You need to get up here.
You need to get up here.
You need to get up here.
Okay, well, let me find somemeaningless job where I'll be
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miserable, but hey, at leastI'll be up there.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Hey, you go to lowes, man get 10 discount.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
It's fine how long you think I last in lowes?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
oh, not long at all.
I didn't think so.
I don't think you'd make itthrough orientation no, probably
not.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I'd look.
I'd look at who's give,whoever's giving me an
orientation.
Be like man.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
You're fucking worthless I don't think it'd be
more along the lines you look athim going.
Why are we doing this?
It's stupid.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, it's stupid.
Why do I need to wear?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Why do I got to wear?
You think this little thing'sgoing to keep me from falling
out of that forklift?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, this is stupid.
Wait a minute, you're going tolet me drive a forklift.
Hold on, I go aroundforklifting shit all the time
About like the Sawzall.
Yeah, exactly like the Sawzall.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Sawzall shit all the time.
That's all I do walk around myhouse Sawzall and shit.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So to get back on track, now that's it's.
You gotta find it or life ain'tworth living.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, no, I agree with that.
So another thing that I wasthinking about whenever I was
thinking about this particulartopic I don't know how you are,
but I'm a firm believer in signs, that basically, wherever I
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look, wherever I listen,whatever the case may be that
there's signs around us all thetime and, depending on where you
are in your life, what you gotgoing on in your life, there's
signs around you trying to helpyou make decisions and make
decisions in the right way whenit comes to those things.
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And I believe that when I wastrying to figure out what my
purpose was, that that was oneof the things that kind of
spurred it on, Because obviouslyI spoke about the wallpaper
border that said be still andlisten.
And what that translated to mewas stop trying to think I've
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been told I'm an know.
Stop trying to stop trying tothink I've been told I'm an
overthinker.
But stop trying to think Bestill, Listen, you know, let it
come to you, Let you know.
If you want to put it inbiblical terms, let the Lord
speak to you and tell you yourpath.
And I think that even now, whenI couldn't find a Bible verse
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to support that particularaspect of it to me at the time.
That was the sign.
You know, I saw it when I waslike 16 years old and in my
early 20s is when it finallyplayed a role and I remembered
back to it.
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You know, be still and listen,and it's something that I even
still do today.
You know, I know a lot of people, that a lot of people joke
about it, laugh about it,whatever, Um, and they'll say
that no, you're just, you'rejust giving meaning to a
meaningless thing and yada, yada, yada.
But to me that's just not thecase.
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You know, from being my friendfor as long as you have and
working with me, that there's alot of times I'll ride around
listening to classical music andthe purpose of it is one
there's no words to distract you, which I don't catch.
A lot of the lyrics on a lot ofsongs anyway, but there's no
lyrics to distract you, it'sjust pure music.
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And to me, music, music uh,produces emotion or or draws
emotion as well.
And a lot of times I'll put onclassical music just to kind of
slow my brain down.
I use it a lot whenever, youknow, I can't figure something
out or I've just got too manythings going through my mind and
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I can't sort through them, soI'll put classical music on and
in.
You know my current setting.
That's my way of being stilland listen.
You know everything's runningamok and I can't slow it down.
I can't slow my brain down toorganize my thoughts or sort
through them and try to pickthrough all the different facts
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and this, that and the other, soI wind up putting on classical
music and it helps slow my braindown so I can be quiet and just
kind of listen and typicallyI'll wind up seeing some signs,
whether it's something I hear,whether it's something I see.
And you know, I think, like Isaid, that was that was a huge
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thing when I was working thatprivate sector job that, even
though I liked it, you know, itdidn't give me any fulfillment.
Um, that it was being still andlistening, it was paying
attention to what I saw backwhen I was 16, 17 years old, 15,
somewhere in there.
I saw it all those years agoand then I'm a young adult and,
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well, an adult, and that's whenit finally played a role in my
life and to me that was the sign.
That was the whole purpose ofme.
Looking up and seeing thatwallpaper border was to teach me
that in times when I can'tfigure something out or when
it's weighing too much on me orI've just got too much going on,
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to just be still and listen,and it was because of that that
I was able to sit back and thinkclearly about what my purpose
was, to think about what I haddone my whole life.
You know I for my whole lifeI've been bigger than most
people.
You know I'm six two and forthe vast majority I think, I was
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six foot when I graduated highschool.
So I gained like another twoinches after that.
But even when I became afreshman in high school, I was
taller and had broader shouldersthan most of the seniors, which
caused a lot of people to thinkthat they wanted to fight me
and I'm not somebody that reallycares to fight, so I would just
kind of walk past them.
But that was that was that time.
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And thinking back on it, youknow that whole time, my size
and my this and my that.
Look forward now I'm 42 yearsold and been doing the same job
for almost 16 years, and there'sbeen plenty of times where my
size, my intellect, the way I dothings, that every one of those
are skills or abilities that Ihave used my entire life, or
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features that I've used in myentire life, my entire life.
And had I not decided to bestill and listen and look for
the signs, or notice the signswhen they showed themselves, I
would have never have done, youknow, I would have, I would have
skipped right over it, I wouldhave probably still been doing
some job that, um, you know,wasn't giving me any joy, wasn't
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wasn't bringing anything to me,and, know lord only knows how
my future would have changed, orthe, the futures of the lives
that you know, I've come incontact with since I decided to
start doing this.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Um, you, you have any belief in, in signs or anything
like that I'm a firm believeron it in, uh, if it's meant to,
if it's meant to be, it's meantto be.
I don't know necessarily aboutsigns, maybe in a different way
(25:42):
than you, right, but you know,if things work out like there's,
things are going to work outlike they're supposed to work
out, and I agree with thatYou're going to be in a position
at a certain time becausethat's, that's what's where
you're meant to be, and that'sjust.
(26:04):
That's just kind of how I lookat life.
Yeah, Everything falls intoplace for a reason but you don't
think that there's.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
that's just kind of how I look at life.
Yeah, Everything falls intoplace for a reason, but you
don't think that there's.
You don't think that there'sany particular reason why you
would make one decision overanother.
I'm not trying to get allphilosophical.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
No, no, no, no, no.
I mean not, not in the way thatyou are describing right, not
in the way you're describing Iin the way that you are
describing right, not in the wayyou're describing I.
I, just I, I think that a lot oftimes I go with my gut, uh,
which has never really failed metoo bad.
You know it even.
You know even sometimes I'll gowith it and my guts tell me, no
(26:46):
, don't do it.
But I'll still do it.
But I had already gotten thefair warning signs from you know
, whatever your subconscious,that hey, that's probably not a
good idea, but hey, you live andyou learn it's gonna be what
it's gonna be right it's gonnabe what's gonna be.
You know my favorite, myfavorite term ever?
(27:06):
It is what it is.
Yep, a mutual friend of oursgot me a, a sticker and that's
on my truck.
It is what it is that's becauseit's a fact yeah, that is true,
but uh, but no, I uh see, I'msuper goal driven, right, I set
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goals for myself and um and it.
It drives me mad when I can'tmeet those goals and like, if I
can't obtain those goals, like alot of times I'm very impatient
, you impatient, yeah, if I get,yeah, can you believe that I
would never have?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
guessed that obtain those goals A lot of times.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I'm very impatient, you impatient, yeah, can you
believe that I would never haveguessed that about you?
So if I get something in mymind like, hey, this is where I
want to be, this is what I wantto do, and if I can't reach out
and touch it right now, itdrives me mad.
And I think that drives me alot of the time to do certain
things a certain way once again.
Sometimes sometimes it worksout shit, sometimes it don't you
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know, but a purpose.
Yeah, I'll kind of falls back ina little bit.
You know it keeps me.
It keeps me waking up in themorning.
That's all that matters.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's a good thing, I appreciate that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right.
Well, I, uh, I don't reallyhave anything else when it comes
to this.
This is a fairly simple topic.
Simple in the sense of at leastfor me, it's simple just
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because, you know, I believe Ifound my purpose, and I think
that's even carried over withthe podcast thing, which was
helping people, which was thewhole, you know, reason for
starting the podcast to beginwith was to try to help people.
Um, yeah, life throws us a lot,of, a lot of curve balls and not
(29:18):
everybody is prepared early onin life to handle a lot of those
curve balls and we're put intosituations that we weren't
really prepared for to beginwith at times.
And so that's kind of.
That's kind of where I wasgoing when I decided that you
know, you know what, let's,let's do a podcast, see if we
(29:40):
can reach a few more people andkind of help them out, so that
that purpose that put me in lawenforcement is is what you know
even is the, I guess, catalystor support for doing the podcast
.
So I think my key takeawaywhenever I was trying to prep
(30:05):
for this one and everything wasyou know, at least for me, and
you may have some differentadvice, but at least for me,
when you're trying to figure itout, don't think you know
everything you know.
Don't sit there and try to forceyour mind to do something that
(30:25):
maybe at the moment it's notcapable of doing.
You know, take a step back, youknow, sit still, be quiet,
listen, you know listen.
Listen to what your body'stelling you.
Um, if you're, if you'respiritual, um, listen, listen to
listen to some scripture.
You know, there there's tons ofdifferent things meditating.
(30:47):
You know there's tons ofdifferent things meditating.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I heard that's a big thing now.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Meditating.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's, I tried it.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I can't do it.
I promise you, if I sit and tryto meditate, I'm going to sleep
.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, that was my problem.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Well, and I've noticed that even while you were
sitting here talking, and whileI'm sitting here talking now,
like I'm sitting here rockingthis chair, it's it's all due to
I can't sit still.
And if you, if you expect me tosit still long enough to get
into a meditative state, Iguarantee I'm probably going to
start snoring.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Therapists are like that's like what they're pushing
now is like, hey, you need tomeditate like 10 minutes a day.
Yeah, it's called sleep for me,thanks, yeah well.
Yeah well, I looked at what Isaid.
Yeah well, I'm just gonna fallasleep so I mean, and my wife's
gonna come in the room be like,uh, no naps, you gotta get up
and do something.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Anyway, I didn't mean to interrupt you, I'm sorry, no
, you're good man um but it'sbasically where it was getting
to was find some way to createsome peace in your mind, clear
out the clutter and, like I said, as an adult now I got so much
stuff going on that I don'treally I don't get a whole lot
(32:04):
of time to sit and just be quiet.
Lot of time to sit and just bequiet, um, whether it's because
I'll fall asleep or or whatever,I'm usually probably doing
research on another hobby topick up or working on another
hobby or something along thoselines.
Um, you know, I just I don'tfind time for it so often enough
(32:24):
.
It's typically when I'm in avehicle, um, vehicle riding
around, you know, for whateverreason, I'll put on some
classical music and just kind oflet that music try to slow my
brain down.
And I have other things thatthere's been times where the
music wasn't enough.
I don't know if you saw it, butI keep a fidget spinner with me
(32:48):
in my vehicle as well.
There's times where I've had tohave the music going and
sitting there.
You know, get that fidgetspinner going and it's just to
kind of get my mind to come offof everything else, focus down
to getting that spinner goingand then, once I can focus on
something like that, then I canput the fidget spinner down and
(33:08):
just listen to the music andit's all stuff just designed to
get me, to get my brain to slowdown, so I can process.
So if you're at that point, andif you're not, that's fine.
If you're not at that pointwhere you question or wonder
what your purpose is, oranything like that, that's
completely fine.
You may never have thatquestion.
(33:29):
Like I said earlier, I'm nottrying to get philosophical with
anything, but that's somethingthat I know.
I'm not the only one, I'm notthe only person that has thought
about what my purpose is, why Ihad the abilities and the
intellect and yada, yada, yada.
(33:49):
You know why was I given thesetools and to not be using them.
I'm not the only one, um, butif you are somebody that that's
not, you know, that's nothappened don't, don't look at it
as a bad thing.
Um, you, you may not ever getto it, and that's perfectly fine
.
Your brain may be 100%,perfectly content with right
(34:12):
where you are and, again,nothing wrong with that.
But if you're somebody thatcan't figure it out, if you're
sitting there trying to figureout why you are who you are, why
you are the way you are.
Just try that.
Sit and listen a little bit.
You know, stop trying to get inthe way of whatever force it is
(34:35):
that's trying to point you inthe right direction.
Heck, you can just in to try tosee how popular a topic like
finding purpose is.
You know, google search youwouldn't believe how many pages
there is, uh, google pages thereis on self-help books and
(34:57):
youtube videos and podcasts andso on and so on that talk about
this exact thing.
And here we are adding, justadding to that.
Um, so I mean, it is a, it is athing that people can consider
and think about.
It's something that doesperplex and cause people a mild
(35:18):
form of discomfort.
You know it's discomfortingwhen you don't know why you are
who you are.
So that's kind of my keytakeaway on this that if it's
something that's got you, ifit's something that's weighing
on you, just take a deep breath,try to settle your mind down
(35:43):
and just listen, listen towhatever it is that gives you
guidance.
Uh, with me, like I said, it's,it's signs, it's you know
different things.
Just kind of let that take overand help you figure it out.
You know it may not give youthe answer, but it'll help you
figure it out.
So you got a key takeaway asfar as that goes.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
No, I'm pretty fortunate and kind of like you
at a young age, I've kind offound my purpose, at least in my
opinion.
Like I said, offline, I think.
Different stages in your life,you have a different purpose or
you tend to find a differentpurpose in your life depending
(36:32):
on what stage you're at.
But for now I'm right where Ineed to be and I don't know if
I've ever told you this.
I'm sure I have shit, but Imight as well tell everybody
that's listening it kind of hithome.
I knew I was in the right spotdoing what I'm doing now, my
(36:54):
very, very first year, my firstagency.
Dude, I wouldn't cut, Iwouldn't, I wouldn't cut loose
from FTO.
Three weeks coming into the PDand there was a, there was an
old.
There was like an old grocerystore that was right in front of
the PD and there was a.
There was an old.
There was like an old grocerystore that was right in front of
the PD to and how we get to theback parking lot.
(37:15):
You go kind of through that oldgrocery store and I noticed
this car sitting kind of off inthis corner and I'm like that's
weird.
I hadn't seen that car there.
And so I look at it and there'sthere, there's somebody in it.
So I kind of like loop backaround just out of pure cup
curiosity and, yeah, being nosy,and I noticed there's a woman
(37:40):
in there and she doesn't noticeme and she's bawling, like
bawling.
I'm like, oh man, well, Ishould make sure she's okay.
You know I'm trying to go home,but I should make sure she's
okay.
You know I'm trying to go home,but I should make sure she's
okay.
So I click on, uh, click on myaudio and video recording system
(38:03):
, I knock on the window.
She, like is all startled.
She jumps my hey, I'm justchecking to make sure you're
okay, like perfectly normal tosit in a parking lot, cry your
eyes out.
But I'm just checking to makesure you're okay, like perfectly
normal to sit in a parking lot,cry your eyes out.
But I'm just checking to makesure you're okay, um, and she
looks at me and she's like youknow how many people have driven
by me today?
And I'm like, have you beenhere all day?
And she's like, yeah, I saidwell, I'm one of them.
(38:25):
I'm sorry, um.
And uh, she said no, I'm just,I'm having a rough, I'm having a
rough go.
I just got out of the marinecorps, oh, and I was like, oh
really.
And she's like I just got outof the Marine Corps.
And I was like, oh really.
And she's like, yeah, I justgot out of the Marine Corps.
And you know, me and my mom arehaving issues.
I'm living with her, we'rehaving issues.
I don't know what I'm going todo.
(38:47):
This transition is for thebirds.
She said much worse words, butshe's found foul mouth.
She's from new york, no, soyankee accent and all.
So I'm talking.
We probably talked for 45minutes, um, and she didn't want
(39:09):
to go back to her mom's house.
Um, she didn't have any money.
She, I mean, she was in a bad,she was in a bad spot and I
think me getting out of themilitary and her just getting
out of the military kind oftugged at my heartstrings a
little bit.
So some people on the shift Icalled them say, hey, this is
what I got, um, she don't haveanywhere to go.
(39:31):
Uh, turn her daughter I forgotto mention her daughter was in
the backseat, little younglittle girl.
And so everybody kind of gottogether.
We threw it.
It was like payday.
So we all threw in like 20bucks, yeah, and got our hotel
room.
(39:51):
I know we're, you know it's.
I mean, it's not taboo, butit's kind of like one of those
unwritten rules you never giveanybody your number.
You know you don't want yourphone blocked.
Well, three weeks out of FTO, Igave this woman my number.
I said hey, listen.
I said I've been where you'reat.
I didn't know what I was goingto do either.
If you need anything, give me acall.
(40:12):
So probably, dude.
I want to say like three yearsdown the road, I'm sitting on my
couch with my wife and we'rewatching.
We're probably watchingshameless or something and I get
this text message from this NewYork number and I'm like what
the hell?
And I read it and it's this I'mtelling you.
(40:34):
It's like a five page textmessage.
And this woman basically saidhey, listen, like I don't know
if you remember me, but I'm thegirl in the parking lot that you
stopped by to check on.
I've been there all day.
You're the only one thatstopped to check on me and you
and me talked for 45 minuteswhen my daughter was asleep in
(40:56):
the back seat.
I just wanted to say thank you.
I was on the verge of committingsuicide, like I was on that
verge and you, you helped methat day and I was able.
It took a long road, but I'vegot my own apartment now.
My kids are in school,everything's going much better,
(41:20):
and obviously it was longer thanthat.
I don't have the text messagesin front of me, but that that
right there I was like, well,that's why I do this shit.
You know, oh, yeah, and that'sand that was kind of that, that
sign that you, that you say youknow that I, I, I knew I'm, I'm
(41:41):
where I'm meant to be, yeah, soI I hope anybody listening
that's like dang, like I, Idon't know what I'm doing with
my life right now, I don't knowwhere I'm supposed to be.
I hope that eventually theyfind that you know that purpose,
that to be.
I hope that eventually theyfind that you know that purpose,
that and they're, they'resatisfied with where they're at,
cause it is a good feeling towake up and say you know I'm,
(42:01):
I'm good with where I'm at in mylife right now.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yeah, um, I said something before we started
recording.
Um, would you agree or disagree?
That purpose is synonymous withpassion?
Agree or disagree?
That purpose is synonymous withpassion?
Agreed, okay, and I justhappened to think about this.
I was reading through earliertoday some quotes from Gary Vee
(42:26):
and he was talking in thesequotes he was talking about
passion, and one of the thingshe talked about was you know,
basically, go out and start abusiness or some kind of
entrepreneurial venture basedoff your passion, find something
that you're passionate aboutand go try to make money for it.
(42:48):
And one of the things he saidin there kind of ties in with
what you just said is, if youdon't know what you're
passionate about, then trydifferent things, try different
things until you find one youlike and then go make money off
of it.
For those of you who don't know, gary Vaynerchuk goes by Gary V
, or he's called Gary V, bigtime entrepreneur.
(43:11):
He's got a great story abouthow he came to where he is now.
He's a very humble guy, um, butthat was one of the things he
said is, if, if you can make a,if you can make money off of
your passion, then go do it, butif you don't know what you're
passionate about, then try abunch of different things, find
one that you are passionateabout and then go out and do it,
(43:32):
and that kind of goes alongwith what you just said.
You know one that you arepassionate about and then go out
and do it, and that kind ofgoes along with what you just
said.
You know, if you don't knowwhat you're wanting to do, what
your next move is or whateverthe case is, you know it kind of
falls into that same category.
You know, not everybody knows.
If you feel like the pathyou're on is not the one for you
, or that's not your purpose, orwhatever you want to call it,
(43:54):
try something else.
You know there's nothing wrongwith that.
You know, starting out in thiscareer field, I had an unspoken
rule that if I was going toleave it, I would do it within
five years.
Once I hit the five-year mark,I was vested.
(44:17):
I wasn't just going to throwfive years of hard work,
dedication, effort and passiondown the drain.
You know, if I was going tomake that move to get out of it,
the five-year mark was my mark.
Once I hit that five yearswhich came a lot faster than I
thought it would.
Once I hit that five-year markI was like, no, I can't imagine
getting out of this right now.
(44:38):
And, like you said earlier,there were days where I was like
man, I don't even know why I dothis crap.
I was telling somebody theother day that this job, this
career, this passion, it's givenme more ghosts than I care to
have.
I've got ghosts that live in myhead that will be there till
(44:59):
the day I die because of thethings that I've seen doing this
job and because of that.
You know there's a negativeconnotation that comes with it,
but looking back on it, Iwouldn't have any other way, you
know.
You know it sucks.
I I've said it plenty of timesit sucks but somebody has got to
do it and you know that's,that's what we're for, that's
(45:22):
what we do.
We, we help you get through thesuck as much as we can.
Um, we don't get seen that wayby a lot of people, um,
especially in in modern, uh,social times.
Some of it and I think you andI both agree some of it's earned
, oh yeah, absolutely, butthere's a lot of it that's not.
(45:44):
You know, a lot of people seethis career field as all we do
is ride around and try to writespeeding tickets and take people
to jail and ruin people's lives, and that's that's not what it
is.
It's not about that.
You know, when you're talkingabout terms of traffic, I would
venture to say and I could bewrong, but I don't think I am
that you give more warnings thanyou do.
(46:04):
Citations, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, and that's the vast majority of law enforcement
.
So that negative aspect aloneis just pure bull.
It's based on, based on purespeculation on somebody that's
just bitter that they got atraffic citation.
A lot of what we do is why Ican't, you can't, even put one
hat on it.
We wear so many hats wheresocial workers, where, where you
(46:32):
know, crime fighters, whateveryou want to call it we, we do so
many different things thatimpact people's lives for the,
for the positive and also forthe negative.
But we do so many differentthings and that's what comes
along with the job.
But I wouldn't have it any otherway.
You know the ghost that that Ilive with.
(46:53):
I would rather them be with methan with somebody else.
You know I ghost that I livewith I would rather them be with
me than with somebody else.
You know I, at least duringthose times, I was able to be
with people.
That one, you know, needed meto be there Um, and and my team,
obviously, um, needed us to bethere, but at the same time, you
know, I was able to stopsomeone else from having to have
(47:16):
that.
Not trying to make it soundgrandiose or anything like that,
because it's not.
Every one of us that do thisjob does the same thing, and
it's the same with everybody inthe public safety profession
firefighters, emts, paramedics.
You know they're, they're,they're all the same.
(47:36):
We all have the same scars thathave come from this, this
career field, but none of uswould have it any other way,
because this is, this is ourpurpose and our passion.
So I don't all right.
Well, you got anything else,brother?
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Nope.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
All right.
Well, I don't have anythingelse, so I guess we'll go ahead
and end this one.
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Hey guys, welcome back toBreach your Mind.
Tonight we're gonna, I guess,keep on the same serious path,
as Chris called it earlier.
(00:21):
As Chris called it earlier,we're going to talk about
finding a purpose.
Don't know about a lot ofpeople, but I constantly think,
not just like what, about whatI'm in, or anything like that,
but I'm constantly thinking, mybrain's constantly coming up
with different ideas and askingdifferent questions, and, quite
(00:45):
a while ago, found myself in aposition where I was doing a job
that I liked.
I was working outside, which Ilove to do, but I wasn't exactly
happy.
It wasn't.
It wasn't bringing me any joy,if you, if you want to put it
that way and I wound up askingthe question to myself a lot of
(01:07):
times what is, what is thepurpose?
Why?
Why was I given the intellectthat I have?
Why was I given the size that Ihave, the drive that I have?
Why was I given so many thingsthat I felt were abilities that
(01:28):
I wasn't really using?
And I questioned it for a longtime.
And one day I got to thinkingback back to when I was a
teenager and try not to laugh.
But I was a teenager and I wasin my church and I'd gone into
(01:48):
the bathroom and just as I gotdone washing my hands and was
about to walk out, I looked upand saw this wallpaper, this
border wallpaper, going aroundthe top of the bathroom and it
was a tree with a personstanding looking at the tree and
all it said was be still andlisten, and even to this day, I
(02:11):
thought it was something like aBible verse.
Matter of fact, I spent quite abit of time trying to find that
specific Bible verse, because Iwas actually going to read the
Bible verse that it come from.
But come to find out in theBible it talks about being still
listening and things like thata lot, and what.
(02:31):
That particular phrase that Iread so many years ago didn't
pop up in any of the verses thatI was reading and me take it in
the sense that I took it thenand then, when I was in my early
20s, applying it then Becausesee the way I took it was I was
(02:52):
basically blocking myself, I wasthinking too much about it and
what I needed to do wasbasically shut up You've already
asked a question Shut up andwait to be told what the answer
was.
So I started doing that moreWhenever the question would pop
in my mind, which is usually ona hot summer day and I'm in some
(03:12):
sign that's probably 120degrees in there and I'm
sweating my balls off, changinga huge thousand watt light bulb
or something, or using a shovel.
I'm not a big fan of digginglarge holes with a shovel, um,
but it usually pop up aroundthose times that I would
question you know why, why this,why that?
(03:50):
Um?
So one day it just kind of hitme.
It kind of hit me that what Ihad done my whole life was not
to try to make money, it was Ihelped people.
Going back to when I was 16years old in my hometown, I
joined the volunteer firedepartment at 16.
So at 16 years old I was goingaround and helping the certified
firefighters put out fires andwork crashes and do things like
that.
Then, when I got out of highschool, I quit working the
(04:12):
volunteer fire department and Ijoined up with the military,
spent a little bit of time thereand left out of there, only to
find myself in this job that,while I liked it, it didn't
really kind of give me anyfulfillment or joy.
And it wasn't until a little bitdown from that, you know, when
(04:32):
I finally figured out that whatI'd done my whole life was just
help people.
You know, even when it come tofriends and family, you know, I
would move friends and familyinto my home and try to help
them out, and at times it was tothe despair of my family when
it comes to finances.
But you know, we were willingto do it.
(04:53):
We had family and friends thatneeded help and that's what we
did.
So it only made sense to mewhen I finally cast a lot of
care aside, because one of thethings that I'd always thought
about doing was, you know, beingin law enforcement, and I was
kind of scared to go do it.
For the simple fact of, youknow, I had a bunch of friends
(05:15):
that didn't like cops.
As a matter of fact, my wife isnot a fan of cops, yet she's
been with one for almost 16years.
No god, I'm way off yeah, you'reway off yeah, way off when she
edits smack the shit out of youyes, she is, so wait, it's 2021.
Yeah, we'll have been together.
(05:37):
February will be 23 years we'vebeen together.
Yeah, you're a little ways offthere, buddy.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
That's what I said when you said 16, I was like
they said that.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
But I looked at the screen and you were like nodding
.
So I was like, oh, we're good.
And I was well we were.
We were still on the fact thatshe doesn't like cops yeah, but
oh god, wow, I haven't just itdidn't sound right when it come
out I was like god, that didn'tseem that long.
I've been on the job for almost16 years but been married for
almost well, been with heralmost 23, married 22.
(06:11):
Sorry, babe, but you know shewas not a fan of cops Still not
a huge fan of cops.
Cops still not a huge fan ofcops.
Um, but that being said, youknow I finally decided to put a
(06:31):
bunch of that aside and stopworrying about what everybody
else liked and whether or notthey would still be my friend
and decided to go ahead and doit.
And that's what I've been doingfor the last almost 16 years is
is being a cop.
You know, finding myself goingand trying to help people,
regardless of what the situationis.
(06:52):
I've talked about it before withother people.
There's been plenty ofsituations where I'm in that I'm
in the car on the way homeafter a you know big incident,
and the only thought that runsthrough my head is you know big
incident.
And the only thought that runsthrough my head is oh, that was
stupid.
Why did I do that?
Mainly because you know I'llthink about what needs to be
done and do it, and thenafterwards all the other stuff
(07:18):
comes in on what could have gonewrong.
I was talking about that withsomebody last week, but that's
what I've been doing and that'swhat's given me my joy.
That's what's what my purposefelt that it was was simply to
help people and whatever facetthat was.
So that was that was how howthat all went for me.
(07:40):
That was how how that all wentfor me.
What about you?
You, uh, what's your, what'syour thoughts on purpose?
I know we talked before we uhhit the record there, but what's
your thoughts on it?
Um?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
trying to get my thoughts together.
Three 30s catching up to me, um, I'm kind of in the same boat
as you Now, in my late 20s,creeping up on 30, I'm very
(08:27):
goal-driven and I feel like Ihave to have some purpose.
If I'm doing something, therehas to be a purpose to it, and I
find satisfaction in especiallywhat I do now.
But prior to joining themilitary, especially after I
graduated high school, I hadthat down period of time where I
was just I mean, dude, I washanging out on my dad's couch in
(08:48):
North Carolina and all myfriends were going off to school
and literally I lived for theweekend, like I would wake up
and play video games and eatjunk food and just be a lazy
piece of shit, leave a mess.
My dad would come home fromwork and I put that in
(09:15):
quotations because he, you know,worked at a driving range, you
know, so it was real strenuouson him.
Hey, work's work man.
Hey, work's work.
You're right.
I mean he still had to get upearly and stuff.
So I mean good for him.
And you know I'd be laying onthe day of laundry that I was
supposed to put away.
You know, and Really my dadwanted me to do something with
(09:40):
my life.
Obviously he also knew that Ididn't really have any sort of
direction and he would joke, buthe wasn't joking when he said
you need to get your ass off mycouch and go do something.
You know he would joke, we'dlaugh about it and then we'd
watch football or whatever wewere doing.
But I knew he was serious and Ihad to take a look in a mirror
(10:02):
one day and say what are youdoing with your life?
You know, and, uh, and, andthat's what it took for me to
take that leap.
I mean, one night I, I looked athim.
I said, hey, I'm going to therecruiter in the morning.
You want to go with me?
So I got to work.
So okay, so I'll go by myself.
Well then, I think at somepoint he went with me and he
(10:23):
talked to the recruiter orwhatever, but I don't think it
was the first trip.
Um, so I, I drove my ass to the, to the recruiter, and and sat
down and and and talked with him.
Um, I'll never forget he wasthat typical recruiter you hear
about.
Oh, speaking of recruiters, bythe way, it is 11, 11.
So happy veterans day, happyveterans day, sir.
I appreciate it, appreciate yourservice.
(10:46):
This country appreciates yourservice.
Don't ever forget it.
So anyways, as I was saying, hewas the typical recruiter.
You know, drove a damn Camaro,you know, mr, thank me for my
service.
But and I ate that shit up, andI was.
(11:08):
I mean, he saw me walk in thedoor and he said, yeah, buddy, I
got this sucker and luckily Ihad some some pretty influential
people that I knew, so I wasable to get you know what I
wanted.
Now, did I necessarily fulfillthat initial contract agreement?
(11:29):
No, I didn't.
But you know, I was able to atleast enlist with the contract
that I wanted to.
It didn't.
It didn't necessarily mean that, hey, this is what you're going
to be.
It was hey, this is, you're setup to go down this pipeline.
If you can hack it, I could.
Um, so the military was reallyfulfilling and I had a sense of
(11:53):
purpose there and I loved everyminute of it, even the times
where I'm sitting there freaking, picking weeds out of a bunch
of rocks or sweeping a dirtmotor pool, like I mean, looking
back on it now, I'm like dude,that was, that was the shit.
(12:14):
You know, I got to run aroundthe woods and blow shit up.
That was fun.
You know what I mean.
Um, but obviously, over time Imet my fiance, now my wife, and
at that point in time the uh, myreenlistment window wasn't
there.
Um, to where I wanted to go,and I, I opted out.
(12:40):
The scariest part of transitionwas getting out, and getting out
of the military was what thehell do I do next?
I can get that, and I mean itdrove me.
It drove me straight to abottle of alcohol.
Like I mean, I'm telling you,from the time I got up to the
time I went to bed, that's whatI was doing, because I just I
(13:02):
had no clue, I had no direction.
I just knew I was getting out,yeah, and I didn't.
I didn't want to go to school,even though everybody that you
know talks about getting out and, oh, I'm gonna go to school,
I'm a party, I'm a smoke weed,whatever.
Um, but that's a bunch of lipservice, that's just what that.
People just say that justbecause they think that's what
(13:24):
people want to hear.
Yeah, um, and some people go dothat and they're successful at
it.
I, I could, I wouldn't havebeen successful at school, um,
not at that point in my life.
Um, so I was.
I was talking to my, you know, afamily member and he was like,
well, what about law enforcement?
You know it's, it'sparamilitary.
I did it for.
You know he did it for20-something years.
(13:44):
So I said, okay, cool, I lookinto it and figured out what I
had to do to get into it and Iwas like, oh shit, I can put
myself through this with thepost-9-11 GI Bill.
I said, great, I'll get paidwhile I'm there, it'll work out
great.
So, you know, there were somehiccups along the way and but.
(14:06):
But eventually I got myselfsigned up and went through the
academy.
I ate up the academy.
I loved it, you know it was.
I mean, it was gravy comparedto what I'd been through.
And but I was learning.
You know I got to drive carsand you know you're, you know
learning laws and stuff, andthat stuff interests me.
You know, from the, from thefirst day I sat down and they
(14:26):
started teaching you, you know,basic criminal procedure.
That stuff interested me.
I was like, damn hell, yeah,this is my cup of tea that was
the hardest class for me to stayawake.
Yeah, everybody else is likehalf falling asleep and I'm, I'm
loving it, like I thought itwas great.
And then, uh, you know, youstart getting into the, you
start getting into the actual,you know laws of the state and
and I actually studied like Icouldn't believe it.
(14:48):
But I actually, like studied.
I never studied in school, soat that point in time I realized
, okay, well, this is this, isit right here, this?
And to this day I've got guysthat are that I work with and
you know you and me have bothsaid this, even even on this
podcast.
Some days we're just like whydo we even do this shit?
You know it's.
(15:08):
You know, sometimes you're justlike this shit ain't worth it.
But and I think that's anythinganybody does there's not going
to be, you're not going to behappy every single day.
But I've got guys that you knowthey're around around the same
amount of time.
We haven't been in lawenforcement since the birth of
(15:30):
Christ, like you, but I mean,we've been in a decent amount of
time.
And they look at me and they'relike dude, I hope one day I can
come into work and have theattitude that you have.
One day I can come into workand have the attitude that you
have and I know that probablysurprises you because you, I
(15:50):
used to have to work for you,but but it's true, like I, I
come in and, dude, I love thisshit, I love, I mean, I love it
and I there was a period of timethat you remember that I was
looking at jobs outside of lawenforcement because I wasn't
sure if I was going to be ableto get a job in the state I'm in
(16:11):
now.
Just, it was very difficult toeven get a call back and it's
mostly because of the, theregion that I'm at, that I'm in,
that I'm in it's burning.
You know, freaking, billy Bobis the sheriff and freaking, he
(16:31):
hires all his damn cousins andthat's it, like nobody else but
family.
It's it's still real ruralwhere I'm at, and so it's really
hard, you know, not necessarily, you know, even for in-state
people, but coming from atotally different state, not
knowing anybody, it was hard toget a job.
Luckily I found one, but, dude,I was miserable, like I would
be on like Indeedcom and stuff,like trying to find jobs.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I was absolutely depressed.
I remember Like it was horrible.
So, yeah, like once you findthat purpose in your life and
you find that, that, that whereyou get that gratification, it's
, it's a game changer, it's ahundred percent game changer.
Yeah yeah, I think you know Ithink.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I think during that time you were trying to find a
job up there, you were uh,you're also talking about
selling insurance.
You had said something aboutselling insurance.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
You had said something about selling
insurance.
Yeah, I talked about getting myCDL.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, I was going to say if you sold insurance, make
sure it's like life insurance orsomething.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I mean, yeah, I mean it's.
I mean it was.
It was horrible that that partof my life.
It was a very short period oftime in my life, but I had to
figure a way to get up here tomy wife.
I had to, I had no other choiceand she was on my back about it
.
You need to get up here.
You need to get up here.
You need to get up here.
Okay, well, let me find somemeaningless job where I'll be
(17:59):
miserable, but hey, at leastI'll be up there.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Hey, you go to lowes, man get 10 discount.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
It's fine how long you think I last in lowes?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
oh, not long at all.
I didn't think so.
I don't think you'd make itthrough orientation no, probably
not.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I'd look.
I'd look at who's give,whoever's giving me an
orientation.
Be like man.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
You're fucking worthless I don't think it'd be
more along the lines you look athim going.
Why are we doing this?
It's stupid.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, it's stupid.
Why do I need to wear?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Why do I got to wear?
You think this little thing'sgoing to keep me from falling
out of that forklift?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, this is stupid.
Wait a minute, you're going tolet me drive a forklift.
Hold on, I go aroundforklifting shit all the time
About like the Sawzall.
Yeah, exactly like the Sawzall.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Sawzall shit all the time.
That's all I do walk around myhouse Sawzall and shit.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So to get back on track, now that's it's.
You gotta find it or life ain'tworth living.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, no, I agree with that.
So another thing that I wasthinking about whenever I was
thinking about this particulartopic I don't know how you are,
but I'm a firm believer in signs, that basically, wherever I
(19:23):
look, wherever I listen,whatever the case may be that
there's signs around us all thetime and, depending on where you
are in your life, what you gotgoing on in your life, there's
signs around you trying to helpyou make decisions and make
decisions in the right way whenit comes to those things.
(19:44):
And I believe that when I wastrying to figure out what my
purpose was, that that was oneof the things that kind of
spurred it on, Because obviouslyI spoke about the wallpaper
border that said be still andlisten.
And what that translated to mewas stop trying to think I've
(20:07):
been told I'm an know.
Stop trying to stop trying tothink I've been told I'm an
overthinker.
But stop trying to think Bestill, Listen, you know, let it
come to you, Let you know.
If you want to put it inbiblical terms, let the Lord
speak to you and tell you yourpath.
And I think that even now, whenI couldn't find a Bible verse
(20:29):
to support that particularaspect of it to me at the time.
That was the sign.
You know, I saw it when I waslike 16 years old and in my
early 20s is when it finallyplayed a role and I remembered
back to it.
(20:49):
You know, be still and listen,and it's something that I even
still do today.
You know, I know a lot of people, that a lot of people joke
about it, laugh about it,whatever, Um, and they'll say
that no, you're just, you'rejust giving meaning to a
meaningless thing and yada, yada, yada.
But to me that's just not thecase.
(21:10):
You know, from being my friendfor as long as you have and
working with me, that there's alot of times I'll ride around
listening to classical music andthe purpose of it is one
there's no words to distract you, which I don't catch.
A lot of the lyrics on a lot ofsongs anyway, but there's no
lyrics to distract you, it'sjust pure music.
(21:32):
And to me, music, music uh,produces emotion or or draws
emotion as well.
And a lot of times I'll put onclassical music just to kind of
slow my brain down.
I use it a lot whenever, youknow, I can't figure something
out or I've just got too manythings going through my mind and
(21:53):
I can't sort through them, soI'll put classical music on and
in.
You know my current setting.
That's my way of being stilland listen.
You know everything's runningamok and I can't slow it down.
I can't slow my brain down toorganize my thoughts or sort
through them and try to pickthrough all the different facts
(22:16):
and this, that and the other, soI wind up putting on classical
music and it helps slow my braindown so I can be quiet and just
kind of listen and typicallyI'll wind up seeing some signs,
whether it's something I hear,whether it's something I see.
And you know, I think, like Isaid, that was that was a huge
(22:37):
thing when I was working thatprivate sector job that, even
though I liked it, you know, itdidn't give me any fulfillment.
Um, that it was being still andlistening, it was paying
attention to what I saw backwhen I was 16, 17 years old, 15,
somewhere in there.
I saw it all those years agoand then I'm a young adult and,
(23:03):
well, an adult, and that's whenit finally played a role in my
life and to me that was the sign.
That was the whole purpose ofme.
Looking up and seeing thatwallpaper border was to teach me
that in times when I can'tfigure something out or when
it's weighing too much on me orI've just got too much going on,
(23:25):
to just be still and listen,and it was because of that that
I was able to sit back and thinkclearly about what my purpose
was, to think about what I haddone my whole life.
You know I for my whole lifeI've been bigger than most
people.
You know I'm six two and forthe vast majority I think, I was
(23:49):
six foot when I graduated highschool.
So I gained like another twoinches after that.
But even when I became afreshman in high school, I was
taller and had broader shouldersthan most of the seniors, which
caused a lot of people to thinkthat they wanted to fight me
and I'm not somebody that reallycares to fight, so I would just
kind of walk past them.
But that was that was that time.
(24:20):
And thinking back on it, youknow that whole time, my size
and my this and my that.
Look forward now I'm 42 yearsold and been doing the same job
for almost 16 years, and there'sbeen plenty of times where my
size, my intellect, the way I dothings, that every one of those
are skills or abilities that Ihave used my entire life, or
(24:42):
features that I've used in myentire life, my entire life.
And had I not decided to bestill and listen and look for
the signs, or notice the signswhen they showed themselves, I
would have never have done, youknow, I would have, I would have
skipped right over it, I wouldhave probably still been doing
some job that, um, you know,wasn't giving me any joy, wasn't
(25:03):
wasn't bringing anything to me,and, know lord only knows how
my future would have changed, orthe, the futures of the lives
that you know, I've come incontact with since I decided to
start doing this.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Um, you, you have any belief in, in signs or anything
like that I'm a firm believeron it in, uh, if it's meant to,
if it's meant to be, it's meantto be.
I don't know necessarily aboutsigns, maybe in a different way
(25:42):
than you, right, but you know,if things work out like there's,
things are going to work outlike they're supposed to work
out, and I agree with thatYou're going to be in a position
at a certain time becausethat's, that's what's where
you're meant to be, and that'sjust.
(26:04):
That's just kind of how I lookat life.
Yeah, Everything falls intoplace for a reason but you don't
think that there's.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
that's just kind of how I look at life.
Yeah, Everything falls intoplace for a reason, but you
don't think that there's.
You don't think that there'sany particular reason why you
would make one decision overanother.
I'm not trying to get allphilosophical.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
No, no, no, no, no.
I mean not, not in the way thatyou are describing right, not
in the way you're describing Iin the way that you are
describing right, not in the wayyou're describing I.
I, just I, I think that a lot oftimes I go with my gut, uh,
which has never really failed metoo bad.
You know it even.
You know even sometimes I'll gowith it and my guts tell me, no
(26:46):
, don't do it.
But I'll still do it.
But I had already gotten thefair warning signs from you know
, whatever your subconscious,that hey, that's probably not a
good idea, but hey, you live andyou learn it's gonna be what
it's gonna be right it's gonnabe what's gonna be.
You know my favorite, myfavorite term ever?
(27:06):
It is what it is.
Yep, a mutual friend of oursgot me a, a sticker and that's
on my truck.
It is what it is that's becauseit's a fact yeah, that is true,
but uh, but no, I uh see, I'msuper goal driven, right, I set
(27:38):
goals for myself and um and it.
It drives me mad when I can'tmeet those goals and like, if I
can't obtain those goals, like alot of times I'm very impatient
, you impatient, yeah, if I get,yeah, can you believe that I
would never have?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
guessed that obtain those goals A lot of times.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I'm very impatient, you impatient, yeah, can you
believe that I would never haveguessed that about you?
So if I get something in mymind like, hey, this is where I
want to be, this is what I wantto do, and if I can't reach out
and touch it right now, itdrives me mad.
And I think that drives me alot of the time to do certain
things a certain way once again.
Sometimes sometimes it worksout shit, sometimes it don't you
(28:18):
know, but a purpose.
Yeah, I'll kind of falls back ina little bit.
You know it keeps me.
It keeps me waking up in themorning.
That's all that matters.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's a good thing, I appreciate that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right.
Well, I, uh, I don't reallyhave anything else when it comes
to this.
This is a fairly simple topic.
Simple in the sense of at leastfor me, it's simple just
(28:56):
because, you know, I believe Ifound my purpose, and I think
that's even carried over withthe podcast thing, which was
helping people, which was thewhole, you know, reason for
starting the podcast to beginwith was to try to help people.
Um, yeah, life throws us a lot,of, a lot of curve balls and not
(29:18):
everybody is prepared early onin life to handle a lot of those
curve balls and we're put intosituations that we weren't
really prepared for to beginwith at times.
And so that's kind of.
That's kind of where I wasgoing when I decided that you
know, you know what, let's,let's do a podcast, see if we
(29:40):
can reach a few more people andkind of help them out, so that
that purpose that put me in lawenforcement is is what you know
even is the, I guess, catalystor support for doing the podcast
.
So I think my key takeawaywhenever I was trying to prep
(30:05):
for this one and everything wasyou know, at least for me, and
you may have some differentadvice, but at least for me,
when you're trying to figure itout, don't think you know
everything you know.
Don't sit there and try to forceyour mind to do something that
(30:25):
maybe at the moment it's notcapable of doing.
You know, take a step back, youknow, sit still, be quiet,
listen, you know listen.
Listen to what your body'stelling you.
Um, if you're, if you'respiritual, um, listen, listen to
listen to some scripture.
You know, there there's tons ofdifferent things meditating.
(30:47):
You know there's tons ofdifferent things meditating.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I heard that's a big thing now.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Meditating.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's, I tried it.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I can't do it.
I promise you, if I sit and tryto meditate, I'm going to sleep
.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, that was my problem.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Well, and I've noticed that even while you were
sitting here talking, and whileI'm sitting here talking now,
like I'm sitting here rockingthis chair, it's it's all due to
I can't sit still.
And if you, if you expect me tosit still long enough to get
into a meditative state, Iguarantee I'm probably going to
start snoring.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Therapists are like that's like what they're pushing
now is like, hey, you need tomeditate like 10 minutes a day.
Yeah, it's called sleep for me,thanks, yeah well.
Yeah well, I looked at what Isaid.
Yeah well, I'm just gonna fallasleep so I mean, and my wife's
gonna come in the room be like,uh, no naps, you gotta get up
and do something.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Anyway, I didn't mean to interrupt you, I'm sorry, no
, you're good man um but it'sbasically where it was getting
to was find some way to createsome peace in your mind, clear
out the clutter and, like I said, as an adult now I got so much
stuff going on that I don'treally I don't get a whole lot
(32:04):
of time to sit and just be quiet.
Lot of time to sit and just bequiet, um, whether it's because
I'll fall asleep or or whatever,I'm usually probably doing
research on another hobby topick up or working on another
hobby or something along thoselines.
Um, you know, I just I don'tfind time for it so often enough
(32:24):
.
It's typically when I'm in avehicle, um, vehicle riding
around, you know, for whateverreason, I'll put on some
classical music and just kind oflet that music try to slow my
brain down.
And I have other things thatthere's been times where the
music wasn't enough.
I don't know if you saw it, butI keep a fidget spinner with me
(32:48):
in my vehicle as well.
There's times where I've had tohave the music going and
sitting there.
You know, get that fidgetspinner going and it's just to
kind of get my mind to come offof everything else, focus down
to getting that spinner goingand then, once I can focus on
something like that, then I canput the fidget spinner down and
(33:08):
just listen to the music andit's all stuff just designed to
get me, to get my brain to slowdown, so I can process.
So if you're at that point, andif you're not, that's fine.
If you're not at that pointwhere you question or wonder
what your purpose is, oranything like that, that's
completely fine.
You may never have thatquestion.
(33:29):
Like I said earlier, I'm nottrying to get philosophical with
anything, but that's somethingthat I know.
I'm not the only one, I'm notthe only person that has thought
about what my purpose is, why Ihad the abilities and the
intellect and yada, yada, yada.
(33:49):
You know why was I given thesetools and to not be using them.
I'm not the only one, um, butif you are somebody that that's
not, you know, that's nothappened don't, don't look at it
as a bad thing.
Um, you, you may not ever getto it, and that's perfectly fine
.
Your brain may be 100%,perfectly content with right
(34:12):
where you are and, again,nothing wrong with that.
But if you're somebody thatcan't figure it out, if you're
sitting there trying to figureout why you are who you are, why
you are the way you are.
Just try that.
Sit and listen a little bit.
You know, stop trying to get inthe way of whatever force it is
(34:35):
that's trying to point you inthe right direction.
Heck, you can just in to try tosee how popular a topic like
finding purpose is.
You know, google search youwouldn't believe how many pages
there is, uh, google pages thereis on self-help books and
(34:57):
youtube videos and podcasts andso on and so on that talk about
this exact thing.
And here we are adding, justadding to that.
Um, so I mean, it is a, it is athing that people can consider
and think about.
It's something that doesperplex and cause people a mild
(35:18):
form of discomfort.
You know it's discomfortingwhen you don't know why you are
who you are.
So that's kind of my keytakeaway on this that if it's
something that's got you, ifit's something that's weighing
on you, just take a deep breath,try to settle your mind down
(35:43):
and just listen, listen towhatever it is that gives you
guidance.
Uh, with me, like I said, it's,it's signs, it's you know
different things.
Just kind of let that take overand help you figure it out.
You know it may not give youthe answer, but it'll help you
figure it out.
So you got a key takeaway asfar as that goes.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
No, I'm pretty fortunate and kind of like you
at a young age, I've kind offound my purpose, at least in my
opinion.
Like I said, offline, I think.
Different stages in your life,you have a different purpose or
you tend to find a differentpurpose in your life depending
(36:32):
on what stage you're at.
But for now I'm right where Ineed to be and I don't know if
I've ever told you this.
I'm sure I have shit, but Imight as well tell everybody
that's listening it kind of hithome.
I knew I was in the right spotdoing what I'm doing now, my
(36:54):
very, very first year, my firstagency.
Dude, I wouldn't cut, Iwouldn't, I wouldn't cut loose
from FTO.
Three weeks coming into the PDand there was a, there was an
old.
There was like an old grocerystore that was right in front of
the PD and there was a.
There was an old.
There was like an old grocerystore that was right in front of
the PD to and how we get to theback parking lot.
(37:15):
You go kind of through that oldgrocery store and I noticed
this car sitting kind of off inthis corner and I'm like that's
weird.
I hadn't seen that car there.
And so I look at it and there'sthere, there's somebody in it.
So I kind of like loop backaround just out of pure cup
curiosity and, yeah, being nosy,and I noticed there's a woman
(37:40):
in there and she doesn't noticeme and she's bawling, like
bawling.
I'm like, oh man, well, Ishould make sure she's okay.
You know I'm trying to go home,but I should make sure she's
okay.
You know I'm trying to go home,but I should make sure she's
okay.
So I click on, uh, click on myaudio and video recording system
(38:03):
, I knock on the window.
She, like is all startled.
She jumps my hey, I'm justchecking to make sure you're
okay, like perfectly normal tosit in a parking lot, cry your
eyes out.
But I'm just checking to makesure you're okay, like perfectly
normal to sit in a parking lot,cry your eyes out.
But I'm just checking to makesure you're okay, um, and she
looks at me and she's like youknow how many people have driven
by me today?
And I'm like, have you beenhere all day?
And she's like, yeah, I saidwell, I'm one of them.
(38:25):
I'm sorry, um.
And uh, she said no, I'm just,I'm having a rough, I'm having a
rough go.
I just got out of the marinecorps, oh, and I was like, oh
really.
And she's like I just got outof the Marine Corps.
And I was like, oh really.
And she's like, yeah, I justgot out of the Marine Corps.
And you know, me and my mom arehaving issues.
I'm living with her, we'rehaving issues.
I don't know what I'm going todo.
(38:47):
This transition is for thebirds.
She said much worse words, butshe's found foul mouth.
She's from new york, no, soyankee accent and all.
So I'm talking.
We probably talked for 45minutes, um, and she didn't want
(39:09):
to go back to her mom's house.
Um, she didn't have any money.
She, I mean, she was in a bad,she was in a bad spot and I
think me getting out of themilitary and her just getting
out of the military kind oftugged at my heartstrings a
little bit.
So some people on the shift Icalled them say, hey, this is
what I got, um, she don't haveanywhere to go.
(39:31):
Uh, turn her daughter I forgotto mention her daughter was in
the backseat, little younglittle girl.
And so everybody kind of gottogether.
We threw it.
It was like payday.
So we all threw in like 20bucks, yeah, and got our hotel
room.
(39:51):
I know we're, you know it's.
I mean, it's not taboo, butit's kind of like one of those
unwritten rules you never giveanybody your number.
You know you don't want yourphone blocked.
Well, three weeks out of FTO, Igave this woman my number.
I said hey, listen.
I said I've been where you'reat.
I didn't know what I was goingto do either.
If you need anything, give me acall.
(40:12):
So probably, dude.
I want to say like three yearsdown the road, I'm sitting on my
couch with my wife and we'rewatching.
We're probably watchingshameless or something and I get
this text message from this NewYork number and I'm like what
the hell?
And I read it and it's this I'mtelling you.
(40:34):
It's like a five page textmessage.
And this woman basically saidhey, listen, like I don't know
if you remember me, but I'm thegirl in the parking lot that you
stopped by to check on.
I've been there all day.
You're the only one thatstopped to check on me and you
and me talked for 45 minuteswhen my daughter was asleep in
(40:56):
the back seat.
I just wanted to say thank you.
I was on the verge of committingsuicide, like I was on that
verge and you, you helped methat day and I was able.
It took a long road, but I'vegot my own apartment now.
My kids are in school,everything's going much better,
(41:20):
and obviously it was longer thanthat.
I don't have the text messagesin front of me, but that that
right there I was like, well,that's why I do this shit.
You know, oh, yeah, and that'sand that was kind of that, that
sign that you, that you say youknow that I, I, I knew I'm, I'm
(41:41):
where I'm meant to be, yeah, soI I hope anybody listening
that's like dang, like I, Idon't know what I'm doing with
my life right now, I don't knowwhere I'm supposed to be.
I hope that eventually theyfind that you know that purpose,
that to be.
I hope that eventually theyfind that you know that purpose,
that and they're, they'resatisfied with where they're at,
cause it is a good feeling towake up and say you know I'm,
(42:01):
I'm good with where I'm at in mylife right now.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yeah, um, I said something before we started
recording.
Um, would you agree or disagree?
That purpose is synonymous withpassion?
Agree or disagree?
That purpose is synonymous withpassion?
Agreed, okay, and I justhappened to think about this.
I was reading through earliertoday some quotes from Gary Vee
(42:26):
and he was talking in thesequotes he was talking about
passion, and one of the thingshe talked about was you know,
basically, go out and start abusiness or some kind of
entrepreneurial venture basedoff your passion, find something
that you're passionate aboutand go try to make money for it.
(42:48):
And one of the things he saidin there kind of ties in with
what you just said is, if youdon't know what you're
passionate about, then trydifferent things, try different
things until you find one youlike and then go make money off
of it.
For those of you who don't know, gary Vaynerchuk goes by Gary V
, or he's called Gary V, bigtime entrepreneur.
(43:11):
He's got a great story abouthow he came to where he is now.
He's a very humble guy, um, butthat was one of the things he
said is, if, if you can make a,if you can make money off of
your passion, then go do it, butif you don't know what you're
passionate about, then try abunch of different things, find
one that you are passionateabout and then go out and do it,
(43:32):
and that kind of goes alongwith what you just said.
You know one that you arepassionate about and then go out
and do it, and that kind ofgoes along with what you just
said.
You know, if you don't knowwhat you're wanting to do, what
your next move is or whateverthe case is, you know it kind of
falls into that same category.
You know, not everybody knows.
If you feel like the pathyou're on is not the one for you
, or that's not your purpose, orwhatever you want to call it,
(43:54):
try something else.
You know there's nothing wrongwith that.
You know, starting out in thiscareer field, I had an unspoken
rule that if I was going toleave it, I would do it within
five years.
Once I hit the five-year mark,I was vested.
(44:17):
I wasn't just going to throwfive years of hard work,
dedication, effort and passiondown the drain.
You know, if I was going tomake that move to get out of it,
the five-year mark was my mark.
Once I hit that five yearswhich came a lot faster than I
thought it would.
Once I hit that five-year markI was like, no, I can't imagine
getting out of this right now.
(44:38):
And, like you said earlier,there were days where I was like
man, I don't even know why I dothis crap.
I was telling somebody theother day that this job, this
career, this passion, it's givenme more ghosts than I care to
have.
I've got ghosts that live in myhead that will be there till
(44:59):
the day I die because of thethings that I've seen doing this
job and because of that.
You know there's a negativeconnotation that comes with it,
but looking back on it, Iwouldn't have any other way, you
know.
You know it sucks.
I I've said it plenty of timesit sucks but somebody has got to
do it and you know that's,that's what we're for, that's
(45:22):
what we do.
We, we help you get through thesuck as much as we can.
Um, we don't get seen that wayby a lot of people, um,
especially in in modern, uh,social times.
Some of it and I think you andI both agree some of it's earned
, oh yeah, absolutely, butthere's a lot of it that's not.
(45:44):
You know, a lot of people seethis career field as all we do
is ride around and try to writespeeding tickets and take people
to jail and ruin people's lives, and that's that's not what it
is.
It's not about that.
You know, when you're talkingabout terms of traffic, I would
venture to say and I could bewrong, but I don't think I am
that you give more warnings thanyou do.
(46:04):
Citations, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, and that's the vast majority of law enforcement
.
So that negative aspect aloneis just pure bull.
It's based on, based on purespeculation on somebody that's
just bitter that they got atraffic citation.
A lot of what we do is why Ican't, you can't, even put one
hat on it.
We wear so many hats wheresocial workers, where, where you
(46:32):
know, crime fighters, whateveryou want to call it we, we do so
many different things thatimpact people's lives for the,
for the positive and also forthe negative.
But we do so many differentthings and that's what comes
along with the job.
But I wouldn't have it any otherway.
You know the ghost that that Ilive with.
(46:53):
I would rather them be with methan with somebody else.
You know I ghost that I livewith I would rather them be with
me than with somebody else.
You know I, at least duringthose times, I was able to be
with people.
That one, you know, needed meto be there Um, and and my team,
obviously, um, needed us to bethere, but at the same time, you
know, I was able to stopsomeone else from having to have
(47:16):
that.
Not trying to make it soundgrandiose or anything like that,
because it's not.
Every one of us that do thisjob does the same thing, and
it's the same with everybody inthe public safety profession
firefighters, emts, paramedics.
You know they're, they're,they're all the same.
(47:36):
We all have the same scars thathave come from this, this
career field, but none of uswould have it any other way,
because this is, this is ourpurpose and our passion.
So I don't all right.
Well, you got anything else,brother?
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Nope.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
All right.
Well, I don't have anythingelse, so I guess we'll go ahead
and end this one.
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