Drive Thru News #58 - The Le Mans 3-peat! - BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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Uh, all right, Brad, well bring us in.
Welcome drive through episode

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Automobile Automobile.
This is one of my favoriteepisodes of the year.
Why?
Why is that?
Because it's June, we get to talk about.

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The 24 hours of incredible time.
This is the pinnacle of racing, the bestracing on television, the best event of
the year, the most spectacular spectacle.
I'm sorry, I thought the pinnacleof racing was Formula One.
What's the exact opposite of Pinnacle?
The pinnacle and the pinnacle.
Oh, there it.
There it is.
There it there.
It's.
Our new segment.
Our new segment, thePinnacle and the Pitiful.

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Well, we have a guestin the house tonight.
He foreshadowed a little bit soothsaying maybe he had some magic juju.
He rubbed the Ferrari emblema little bit last week.
It's a wonderful thing to have somany creators on the Motoring Podcast
Network in studio with us tonight.
William, big Money Ross.
Here to celebrate Ferrari's victory.
Good evening.
Ooh, listen to you.
Yes.

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This isn't William Ross,who, who is this guy?
He doesn't sound all nasally anddoesn't sound like he's talking
through a sewer pipe or something.
Yeah.
For everyone listening, I finallystepped up and got a new microphone.
We love it.
We love it.
All right, let's talk about, let'stalk about the 24 hours of Le Mans.
Oh man, what a weekend.

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William.
You must be a proud papa as a FerrariPapa Threepeat three in a row.
The hat trick.
Well, yeah, I mean it's awesome tosee that, but I think the real cool
thing is that they, of course, the teamwon with Robert Kizza at the Wheel.
Yeah, I think that's just, that's awesome.
For everything he's been through.
It's come full circle 10 yearsago, signing for a fer ride.
Then he had his accident in the rallycar and now he comes back and you know,

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he wins Le Mans and that being a privatetier team, that was awesome to see.
Well earned.
It was really.
Cool to see.
It looked like for a second there, whatwas there like two hours to ago, three
hours ago, when all of a sudden he'ssaying about having a box, something
with the air tube or something.
Yeah.
And it just couldn't do somethingwith it or something like that.
I was like, no, no, no, no, no.
Suck it up.
Drive, you know, it is.

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Just get there and make it happen.
I mean, on one side.
Yeah.
Hey, after s scootering, itwouldn't have been a 1, 2, 3
because someone got disqualified.
It was good to see Porsche bringing it.
Penske getting thwarted again.
Two in a row for them too.
The Indy 500, they got DQ for, we'llcall it, modified their vehicle
outside of the specified parameters.
Not cheating, but you know, modifications.

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Yeah.
Something along those lines.
However you wanna legalize it.
Let's talk about Kizza for a second.
Brad.
Tanya, you know aboutthis accident, right?
Have you seen the videosof what happened to him?
No.
Uh, it's been a long time.
I know I. He almostdied, was pretty severe.
I think he hit a tree or something.
I know he broke his leg very severely.
So this was back in the days when,what would today would be like the

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WRC two cars, like the VW Polo and theSkoda and the Seas and all those that
they had running back Then he spinsand hits basically a guardrail and
the guardrail comes through the car.
Mm-hmm.
It's absolutely horrific when you seethe pictures of it and everything.
It's like completely fluketoo, of all the things to hit.
Yeah, just nutty.
Absolutely nutty.
So he's been back in the driver'sseat for quite a while, so to go

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from that, you know, near death.
Experience to winning Le Mans.
That's a heck of a story.
Yeah.
I mean his hand is basically unusable.
Anyways, that's the one thing that's,so he is literally basically driving
with one hand, you know, he can use it,kind of push things around so that, but
they gotta modify stuff 'cause it's justbasically a dangling appendage there.
That's what makes allthat much more impressive.
He was able to come back from thatand he's driving at this top level.

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Just goes to show how easy it is todrive a car with a floppy paddle gearbox.
Yeah.
'cause that was back older.
That wouldn't happen in no way.
So I agree with you.
You know I watched a good portion of therace later into the race 'cause I had
obligations with the A CO and the Symoneevent and all those kinds of things.
But what I did watch sporadicallythrough the weekend, I had this moment,

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I was talking to some folks whilewe were there at the viewing party.
You know, they were talking aboutPorsche versus Ferrari and this
and that and you know, cars and theautomotive engine and I'm like, look.
You have to realize Porsche,Ferrari, they're a league above
everybody else because we're seeingtwo of the finest engineering
companies in the world going at it.
Not just car companies,but engineering companies.
And so to see them duking itout and then 9 63, unfortunately

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it doesn't have the legs.
They haven't figured it out afterall three, four years now of
development and good for Ferrari.
That's all he kept saying was forFerrari, they need to win this.
And they need to go out on a highstop after this year 'cause Ford
is coming and you don't wanna setyourself up like Toyota has done the
last couple years where it's justbeen this downward spiral where it's

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evident that Toyota was running with nocompetition for a very, very long time.
Well, I think the one thing Penskeor Porsche has that issue with that
car is, and I could be wrong, buthaving to basically make that usable
or qualify for both sides of the pond.
Yeah, I mean you got totally differentscenarios in regards to tracks that you're
running an INSA than you are to we, yeah.

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You got street, all these crazy assstuff they do over here that those cars
aren't meant to be on that kind of track.
First of all.
I mean on some of these courses here inthe United States, it doesn't make sense.
But I think that could be the issuein regards to what they can't.
Because it's gonna be give and take.
Alright, do you want to have it forthat or you wanna have it for that?
What do you wanna win?
And I hear differing opinions on that.
'cause we had Jordan Taylor on as part ofevening with the legend and he said the

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Cadillac that they were running, whichthe Wayne Taylor car didn't do as good
as they had projected, but he was like,the setup really isn't that different.
They have a different arrow packagefor Le Mans because it's so much
straighter and so much longer.
So they can do more speed.
But then again, they're speed limited.
They're sort of capped around 2 10, 212 on the upper end of speed anyway.
But the card that they have there isthe same card that they run over here.

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You know, the Cadillac, VLMP, dh,whatever all the acronyms are now.
Yeah.
No difference.
I keep making the argumentthat the 9 63 is not a Porsche.
People are like, oh, whatdo you mean it's a Porsche?
I'm like, what of it is a Porsche otherthan the sticker between the headlights?
It's a Delara chassis with an Audi powerplant and a oh, but the magic juju.

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And I'm like, yeah, whatever.
BM BMW is a Delara.
The Cadillacs at Delara, the Ferrari,the winning Ferrari is a Delara chassis.
Yes.
You look up and see on that littleone-off they built for Mr. Roger
Sil, whatever his middle name is,Penske, it's not really road legal.
Mm-hmm.
Per se.
They got special dispensation fromgovernment's, whatnot, to drive it.

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But I thought thatthing was pretty killer.
And everyone's talking about isthat gonna be the next Halo car?
Right.
But to your point, you're like,no, because it really can't,
because it's not really a Porsche.
Mm-hmm.
It's just name badge only.
That's what you get with the regulations.
I mean, that's what you're gonna have.
So I wanted to ask Tanya, I knowsecretly you were rooting for
the PEO and the nine x eight.
I mean, what's going on?

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Them and Alpine.
I, I, yes.
I know they're not gonna do anything, butI would love to see the PEO finish better.
I thought when they debuted that carand they debuted it without a rear
wing, so without had downforce, it'sjust like you guys are buck wild.
Why are you doing this?
But then they were actually,they weren't even terrible.

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It all kind of fell apart I thinkin kind of the last quarter, second
half of the 24 hours and moretowards the last quarter of it.
But I felt like they were hangingin there without a rear ring.
They let a couple laps, didn't they?
They did.
Like they were hanging.
It almost looked like, oh my gosh,are these guys gonna pull it off?
And I don't know since then, and I reallythink it's cool looking peo I agree.

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I think sweet.
They said there were more cars onthe same lead lap than there'd like
ever been in quite a long time.
So I think that's where you'regetting at Tanya, that even the PEOs
were still in the lead lap, eventhough they were behind like, you
know, 40 seconds or whatever it is.
It is a three and a halfminute lap after all right.
There's a lot of delta there.
But yeah, I root forthem too as the underdog.
And they did come up with areally slippery car and then

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they realized that didn't work.
So then they had to put airfoils all over it, which has
significantly slowed them down.
Alpine.
I'm still scratching my head.
They're like, get it together.
Well, I hope to see them do better and.
I guess we also have tolook out for the magma.
Oh no, it's back.
Brad, look at this thing.
But did anyone catch the reveal at Le Mans?

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No.
'cause we hardly saw any of the race.
Right.
But apparently they were, teammagma was revealing their.
Future L-M-P-D-H hypercar.
It looks like it's on fire.
You know, it's a really cool paint job.
I will give it that.
Is that the Cadillac withthe Genesis badge on it?
Yes.

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I mean, I know that's an option.
Like you could just get your chassisin your body from Dara and that's that.
But it looks an awfullot like the Cadillac.
They don't give details other than V eightengine, hybrid system, yada, yada, yada.
Oh, I love this.
The racing team's decision to employa V eight powertrain, which was
designed basically by combining two ofGenesis 1.6 liter turbo four cylinder.

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That's like straightoutta Audi's playbook.
We need a V eight.
We got two 16 vow Rocco engines.
Boom, we got a V eight now.
Here we go.
There you go.
And so these are based on the WRC engines.
Hopefully they're not using the Hyundaihybrid system that's in the rally cars,
'cause those are notoriously unreliable.
So hopefully they'll gettheir MGU from somebody else.
Uh, they don't really talk aboutyet some of those specifics, so I

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guess we'll have to watch out for it.
Obviously they're puttingthe bug in everyone's ear.
So will it be.
Officially debuted on track next, Lemonenext year, I guess Time will tell.
They do say they're gonna try to becompeting in next year's we races.
What's McLaren running in theirs?
I know they debuted theirs too.
Yeah, that's right.
McLaren was talking aboutcoming back as well.

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I know they dropped a curtainon that thing as well.
Also, I believe had a show of that.
Can we Photoshop theMcLaren badge on this car?
'cause it probably looks very similar.
It probably, yeah.
In Orange.
So it's getting confusing.
Well, you know, and going back to talkabout the eo, that's what's great about
that car is they didn't copy, they didn'tlike, Hey, we'll take this into, I mean,
they just went start from scratch and justwent at it and I mean, and the car kudo

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to them and then for sticking with it.
Yeah, they end up having to add all thearrow and stuff like that after the fact.
But you know what, that's some.
Kaho to jump out and what they startedwith, what are they saying is they're
hoping, was it by 2027 that they said theyshould be winning or something like that?
Of course, everyone, you know,all teams say that, oh, in
two years we'll be winning.
Yeah.
You know, and same with lp, but you know,LPLP, that's just the whole cluster.

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You know what, all across theboard, all the racing departments.
So what year is the 9 63 gonna win?
Um,
the, the classic.
Oh yeah, yeah.
There we go.
There we go.
That makes sense.
Or historics.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Never until it's a fullfledged factory effort.
Never.
Well, that's just it, right?
Corvette was the last holdout.

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They were the last factory team,and now everything is private
tier, quote unquote works cars.
And it's just like, okay, maybe we'll see.
But you know, that's another thingI noticed in the GT class, whatever
GTLM, it used to be back in the day,they didn't get a lot of coverage.
This Le Mans either, they focused alot on the LMP one class, you know,

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all the big cars, the hypercar.
At one point, I think I might haveasked you, Tanya, I was like, are
there even any Corvettes running?
'cause I don't evenremember seeing them on tv.
It was like, and then I spotted thered one and I was like, oh, there
is a Corvette running at Le Mans.
There's a couple, weren't there?
There three?
Yeah, there were, but they were just,nobody was paying attention to them
because no one pay attention to anything.
They're privateers, right?
So you're just like, eh, whatever.
Who cares?
It's all Pratt Miller.
Yeah.
I was a little surprised by that.

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'cause you know, usuallyyou have your better racing.
In that class that's going on 'causethey're banging on each other and
going at it from drop of the flag.
I was a little surprised by that.
They weren't paying much attention toit as intently as they normally do.
And then there was a big battlethat somehow we all missed it.
That happened in the GT three class.
That's what it's called now.

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Right?
Between Porsche and Ferrari.
And that ended with AfCorsa in second place.
Yeah, man.
Tie one.
Exactly.
But that was a good battle.
But they hardly ever showed it on tv.
It was like, it was ridiculous.
Well, the one unfortunately inthe, uh, other class, Valentino
Rossi's team that he's running withthose BMWs, I mean, they're good.
I mean, he can drive,there's no doubt about that.

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And that's a strong team.
And it sucked if they gotknocked out like they did.
Yeah, that was unfortunate.
That would've been cool tosee him win at Le Mans in a car.
That, that'd been a great story.
Well, that happened last yeartoo, where they got knocked out
or the car broke or something.
So that's two years in a row.
Disappointment for Valentino Rossi.
That's unfortunate.
But hey, got another year to go.
Well, I mean, how old is he?

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46. Four.
Four.
Three.
I mean, he's still young.
He's got plenty of time.
He's not as old as Alonzo.
So he is still got time.
Oh yeah.
Plenty of time.
He's older.
He's actually, I thinkhe's older 'cause he is 46.
Lies.
Lies Alonzo's, like 62 years old.
Come on now.
Alonzo's only 43.
Oh, I don't believe that at all.
So I'm gonna throw this outthere for you guys to debate.

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We know that WEC is multi-class racing.
We know that IMSA is multi-classracing, but when you get to Le Mans and
you start looking at LMP one GTP,whatever it's called this week, right?
L-M-D-L-M-D-H, yada, yada, yada, yada.
But that's why it gets confusingbecause inside of P one you have like
four other classes running together.

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You know, hypercar, hybrid LMP one, andthen you've got stuff normally aspirated.
Not that you like theacid mark and Valkyrie.
So there's this sort of weird mixedclass at the top of the totem pole.
And so we even talkedabout it this weekend.
Should they regulate P one ormake it an unlimited class?
Brad, what do you think?

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Unlimited.
Tanya has popcorn in her mouth.
I have no comment on this.
What?
How she's reserving her comments for F1.
Oh, okay.
Well, yeah, that, yeah, we'll get to that.
So William, GTP.
What do we think?
Should it be an unlimited class?
Let 'em just do what they're doing.
Unlimited.
Go nuts.
Let the engineers go wild.
Yes.
Put the, uh, accountants awayand let the engineers go crazy.

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Yeah, just say, alright,here's your energy capacity.
That's it.
Let everything else just go nuts.
Like in the seventies, five liter.
Yes.
Do whatever you want after that.
Do whatever you want.
Open up your checkbooks and have at it.
Or, I mean, if you cap it, Imean, hey, you know, it's let,
let the engineers go crazy.
I think that level, that'swhat that should have.
I mean, yeah, there's acouple things here and there.
Maybe trickle down 10 years afterthe fact in the road cars, but I

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mean that's your premier racing andreality is the manufacturers getting
into it is all about the powertrain.
It's not about the car, itis just about the engine.
The powertrain here, have that experiment.
Do what you want, bam.
There you go.
There's your reliabilitytest, everything like that.
So I think that's what they shoulddo is just figure out some engine
parameters, stick with that.
Then let everything else just go nuts.
I will say that VE Creeksounds amazing, right?

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And I think there were a lot of peoplerooting for that and they got DQ
right away, like back of the pack,back with Penske and they were done.
They're like, who bears?
Yeah.
At that point, I don't even rememberwhat the infraction was that caused
them to start at the back of thepack, but I was like, that's pathetic.
I'm like, really?
Too awesome.
That sounds very French brat.

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Too awesome.
Back at the pack.
It's too awesome.
They should have made him ahonorary garage 56 card and then
they could have won their own classand it would've been all right.
Was there a garage 56 car?
No.
That's so seldom that they do that.
It's gotta be somethingreally ridiculously different.
Like a Camaro.
Well, yeah, like NASCARcar, NASCAR Camaro.
Yeah.
Alright, so the GTPP onefield keeps getting bigger.

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Like this is the biggest,it's been in a long time.
Not as big as the seventies andthe eighties, where you basically
had two classes running at Le Mansprototypes and nine 30 fives.
That's pretty much what theseventies boiled down to.
It's getting bigger and they're talkingabout more brands coming, right?
Hyundai slash Genesis Ford's coming.
And then we were talking about itlike, when is the shoe gonna fall

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and Mercedes is gonna throw in a car?
And then, you know, Lambos supposed tohave a car that qualifies in that class,
not just in GTD, if that's the case.
Brad, your favorite class.
You know Jackie Chan's gonna besitting only in those grandstands.
He is not gonna be able tocampaign an LMP two car.
Are you okay with that?
Yes.
Yes.
It's like pop quiz.

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Which class gets the leastamount of TV coverage during
a Le Mansr race Over 24 hours.
LMP two.
I'm personally not sad.
If LMP two goes away, it would becool to make LMP two a support race
where it's like they run for maybefour hours or six hours the day before
or something, you know, whatever.
Just get 'em out of the way.
But if the P one class gets so big,there's just not gonna be enough space.

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Or we gonna have like90 cars running at Le Mans.
How is there not enough space?
It's an eight mile track.
How many cars do they fit on Watkins Glen?
Like what's, what's the ratio?
How many cars per mile?
20 per mile or something.
Okay, so, so 20.
Yeah, so at that point, so, okay.
Was that 160 cars?
We got plenty of space then.
Yes.

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Just keep adding, bringback P three as well.
We'll be all right.
I don't know.
I personally would like tosee P two go away just because
they don't get enough love.
And it would be cool to have likea dedicated coverage just for them
and get excited about a spec race.
'cause that's what it is.
They're either orcas or they'res.
And the power plant islike Gibson or Judd.
It's very watered down to like,this is the formula and that's it.

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And then, you know, none of thedrivers really get any airtime really.
And at the end you're like,oh wow, somebody won P two.
Like that's fantastic.
This sounds like a supportrace for a NASCAR race.
Gibson and Judd.
You got a Gibson in there or Judd?
I got the Judd in mine.
Oh, we got the Gibson over here.
Yeah.
Right.
I mean, what is the point of LM two?

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I mean, what, what is the point?
And I could be wrong.
Sort of like almost like a feedersystem into the bigger classes.
That exist, like the hypercarand GTP and all that.
But it also helped keep the racing sortof going when there were only Toyota and
Toyota and Toyota, there was nobody else.
But I think the LMP two class was strictlya cash grab for the gentleman drivers.

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You know, that's not far off.
No, they, they needed to fund it somehow.
Are there any gentlemen, driversqualified to run in P one?
I think they all haveto be platinum, right?
I would hope you to be platinumat that point, but you can't be
a bronze driver at that level.
I have to check the rule book.
I mean, like to think, yeah, I can'tthink of any gentlemen drivers.
'cause even Ben Keatingran P two and GT cars.

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That's the only thing he'sbeen able to do as a gentleman.
Driver and I, I don't thinkanybody is able to run P one if
they're not like a pro driver.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Well, like I said, Toyota, Toyota, Toyota.
Let's talk about Cadillac for a second.
Another car that sounds fantastic.
Not as good as Aston, but it's damn good.
It goes back to qualifyinghyper pole, all that stuff.
Was Ferrari and Porsche sandbagging?

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Is that what we've concluded here?
I don't think so.
They even admitted that Cadillacwas, you know, over one lap was fast.
It was just sort of long distance runs.
So I don't know what happens to the car ifI'm doing one lap to say doing lap 20 on
it tires, you know, those things last, howmany stints they were doing on the sets.
I mean, nothing's changed on that carfrom, you know, one lap to 10 laps.

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So I, I don't know.
I guess maybe they were, I don't know.
I don't think they were.
But if you're looking at a big picture,who gives a shit about hyper pole?
Just the race win that you want.
I mean, as long asyou're starting up front.
Well, and that's just it, right?
Cadillac's on the pole, and bythe first pit stop it's like.
Ooh, see all later, 14th spot,like, what the heck happened?
Like completely fell apart.

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And that's where I was.
And to your point, unlike a Formula Onerace where we try to win by the first
corner, in most cases, Le Mans is not onein the first corner or the first lapper
in the first hour because it's all day.
You really gotta stretch those cars out.
And you're right about the tire stents.
They were saying Porsche wasdoing 13 laps per stent, and then
they're triple stining the tires.
So they're getting well roundeddown to 36 laps on a tire, which

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that's a lot of miles at nearly ninemiles, you know, on a set of slicks.
That's pretty damn good.
You know?
They're really making theuse out of that rubber.
Yeah, that public school math.
Yeah.
36 laps.
That's why Brad's my number guy.
Yeah.
Well, you know, I mean, maybe thefact was too, just in traffic, that
thing, especially in the beginning,your first few hours, you're so

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clustered, it just wasn't there with it.
It couldn't, who knows?
But yeah, it was a little bit surprisingthat it dropped off that much that fast.
Yeah, it was a bit surprising.
It was.
So, I don't know if youguys noticed or not.
This was the first Le Mans since 22.
It hasn't rained during the race.
It was a completely dry race,which unfortunately, in my
opinion, made it kind of boring.

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Yeah.
Wet weather always adds alittle excitement to things.
A little spice.
Yeah.
Even a night racing, because it wasso dry, was just like, oh, okay.
Yeah, whatever.
They're just go doing lap.
Wow.
Well, let's just hopeit's dry in two weeks.
Yes.
Oh, so speaking of the classics, Igot some inside baseball from people
that were at the viewing party.
They were telling me that the way classicis formatted, so we were under the

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impression they're just gonna send out.
Everything from the chitty chittybang bang to, you know, the
Mazda 7 87 B. And they're justgonna run for 24 hours straight.
No, no, no, no, no.
It's all broken up.
There's all these car corrals, likewhere all the Porsches are parked.
And then the Porsche members come andthen they said there'll be Ferrari
parking, lots of four or 500 cars alone.
So they said you can spend all day justlooking at cars in the parking lot,

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let alone what's going on on track.
And then what they do is they break itdown like Goodwood, and they run them
by classes for a certain period of time.
And so certain classes run during the day,and then other ones only run at night.
And so they run cars throughout the24 hours nonstop, but they're going
out on track and they're coming inand doing all that kind of stuff.
Yeah.

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And I've seen how that was getting setup, which I thought was, it's nice because
you get to see everything run and you cansee the different, everything like that.
And 'cause like they only runfor like two hours or four
hours per something like that.
Which is nice too is 'cause then thebreak you have between them, you know, all
their stuff getting separate like that.
I, I don't know.
I'm excited for it.
It's gonna be a lot of fun.
That's gonna be sweet.
So you mentioned the Ferrarithreepeat at the beginning.

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Congratulations to them,but not gonna talk about the
disqualification of the number 50 car.
That's your job.
What's up?
Did you know that it was disqualified?
I heard about it todayas a matter of fact.
So the number 50 car, which finishedin fourth place, apparently got
disqualified for being unsafe.
Or possibly having an unfairspeed advantage because four bolts

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were missing from the rear wing.
Yeah.
Did you start reading into it?
It's like, huh?
And it's like, okay, sofour bolts were missing.
It was unsafe, and yet the car drovefor 24 hours without anything happening.
Okay.
Yeah.
So let me explain howthis collusion works.
Okay.
The fact that the 51 car didthat ridiculous pirouette

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going in into the pit lane.
Remember that?
Where they were like, they weren't sure ifthey were gonna give him a penalty or not.
They had just given Sebastian Bourdaina penalty for doing the same thing.
You know, running over the white line.
Pure GUI comes in, smoking, hot intothe pit, locks it up, spins it around,
you know, hits the curb, all this stuff.
And then nobody says a word.
You know, he comes in the pit,changes his tires, goes back out.

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Everybody's just, they're like, ohman, we're gonna get like a, you
know, whatever, ten second penaltylike they would do in Formula One.
And they went the whole raceand nobody said anything.
The officials were like, it's underinvestigation, blah, blah, blah.
And then.
There was never any talkabout it ever again.
And we were watching the official feedfrom France, so you're getting all
like the extra stuff coming throughthat versus the televised stuff on HBO.

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Okay.
So they went radio silent on the Ferrariand I think this was their opportunity.
They found something else and theysaid, ah, we didn't get you the first
time because you know, we couldn't,but now we're gonna get you and
we're gonna get you really good.
So collusion.
On the car that didn't do it.
Yeah.
Well, and apparently too, I, theclaim I guess is like the final 37

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minutes is where this all matters.
And it was lapped 380 of 387 Oh my God.
Where it made its highest top speedand therefore the loss of those
bolts, the deflection of that wing,allowed it to, they were falling back.
They got no competitive advantage.
They were in fourth place for cryingout loud, does it even matter?

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Fourth place and falling back.
I don't know.
I mean, rules are rules.
I get it.
I think Christian Hornermade a phone call.
He hates Ferrari so much.
He made a phone call, hewas watching the race.
He's like, this is unfair advantage.
That's awesome.
Check the bolts.
He sent a text message.

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Check the bolts.
Was that before or after?
Called 'em up.
Asked em if they wanna takeF spot on the, oh yeah.
As we kind of tail out the Le Mans talk.
And we're gonna talk a littlebit more about the related
motorsport here 'cause we need todo a little comparison shopping.
Let's talk about the sione event.
Tanya, you came up for a good portion ofthe first day and uh, what did you think?

(25:13):
Uh, it was a good event.
I was a little bit surprised actually.
Maybe I shouldn't have been, I don't know.
But by the number of people that werethere, I'm surprised how many people know
of the place, I guess, and maybe that'snot fair to them, but it's definitely a
hidden gem, I think, because very few,if basically anyone else does live demos
of historic vehicles, basically, right?

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Only other one that's like, this is revs.
Down in Florida.
I think that's pretty interesting and it'smore attention grabbing for people than
just kind of walking around and readinga placard next to a car and moving on.
So, um, it was nice to see that numberof foot traffic that went through.
I think there's potentialin the event to be.
Something more.

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I know it's their third yearrunning it, so hopefully every year.
I didn't participate in thefirst two years, so I don't know
how this compares versus those.
Hopefully it's been a somewhatof a step change progress, kind
of better and better every year.
But yeah, I would probably go again.
So let me hit you withsome staggering numbers.
According to my sources.
Because remember peoplerolling in and rolling out.

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Yes.
It's really hard to keep track of Yes, itwas who was there and who wasn't there.
And every time they did a demo, the chairsthat they had set up, they were full.
And then there are people outside.
There's people watching the race,there's people walking around.
I mean, just people everywhere.
So somewhere between 800 to a thousandpeople rolled through in 24 hours.
Wow.
That many, and I didn't realize thisbecause you know, we were doing our
little thing at the A CO booth andtalking to potential members, why

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should I join and what's the club about?
And they even gave us, you know,15 minutes up on stage to talk
about and promote the club.
And I did that with one of ourfellow club members and whatnot.
We had 60 new registrants.
Oh, sweet.
That's outstanding.
So it was like, when did that happen?
We made it easy for people.
Here's a QR code, fill out theform, put in your credit card.
Boom, you're a member, you're done.
We obviously helped some people dothat, that were struggling a little

(27:03):
bit with, you know, their cell phonesor whatever, but I was like 60.
I was like, holy smokes.
That's incredible.
The intent wasn't to reallynecessarily be a membership drive,
but that's awesome for the a CO togrow like that, you know, in one day.
Yeah, that's huge.
That's a great statisticthere to have that happen.
That says a lot in regardsto one, the interest and it's

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gaining momentum, but two.
I think the venue helped immenselytoo, as compared to last year.
Yeah, I should have got in mycar and drove there Friday night.
I told you it was doable.
Pouring rain Saturday didn't even go.
Oh man, it was raining.
It was like, I mean, coming downbuckets, I just, I go, I ain't going.
I was like, I should have got my damncar and drove, it's like son of a bitch.
We had off and on rain and I got handedto the curators at the Sione Foundation.

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Come hell or high water, theyare running those cars outside.
Cars are coming in, soaked it.
They left a GT 40, mark two parkedoutside most of the day just sitting
out in the rain, like whatever.
And then at one point thehippie, nine 17 was out there
with it just sitting out there.
And then they bring it in whenthey, you know, when they needed to.
And there was some prototypeFerrari, two 50 pontoon fender,

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which I've heard estimates anywherebetween 20 and $50 million in value.
And they're like, yeah, they tookthat thing out like three, four times.
They're running around50, 60 mile an hour.
And it's like.
You're killing me.
But it's good to see a museum that,to Tanya's point isn't static.
Yes.
Everything else is justmodel cars in a big box.
Do, does Simone have, um, land aroundthere where they can expand the outdoor,

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because I know they do it in the parkinglot, they do it, but it's not that big.
So I don't know if there was actuallyroom where they could potentially grow.
It could be cost prohibitive.
There's a train that runsdirectly behind the parking lot.
Oh, all right.
Yeah, that won't help.
Amazon owns the other side.
So unless they give up their lot, whichapparently is huge, then they got nothing.
And they're sandwiched inbetween other businesses.

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Yeah, it's back behindbasically Philly airport.
Well, the great thing is, isthey're continue on and growing.
Even after he passed, you see a lotof these things, the person that
was driving force behind it, pushingit, but the money, everything like
that, they died and it closes up.
We'll get, you know, um, what's her names?
They had all those plans forall the, you know, over Chester
in England, all that stuff.
And he dies and.
Everything.

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Sell it all.
Yeah.
So that's good to see.
To your point about acquisitions,they just acquired another car.
They added one to the collection, theyrevealed it Saturday nights, 1952 Nash.
It was the car that won thefirst 12 hours of Seabring.
I tell you what, it's gorgeous.
It's this pewter gray.
It looks so sharp.
It's got the typical Nash race carwith the triple headlights shaped like

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a triangle in the front, you know?
So it kind of makes that shape.
It's nice.
Straight six sounded so good.
I was like, oh man, they justran that thing out there for
a while and then bring it in.
And they actually used that car inthe morning to like wake everybody.
They literally drove it around the insideof the museum to like wake everybody up.
It's like, what the heck is going on?
No, that's awesome.
I'll be there next year andwell, you know, and because you

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weren't there, I didn't get achance to really take any video.
We were so busy doing other stuffand then finally like, Hey, I want 10
minutes to watch the race, you know, dothis eat, and all that kind of thing.
I did take the time to film the Hippienine 17, and so that'll be in the
show notes for people to check out.
That car is just.
So cool.
And then on top of it all, to haveone of its previous owners there to

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talk to people about it, to talk aboutit, experiences and this and that.
And then we had him up on stage.
We had Harley Clarkson, the owner ofMirage, that's all the golf live cars,
like the GT 40 behind you and all that.
We had him there to do a live eveningwith a legend, which is usually,
you know, our private Zoom sessionsthat we do with the A CO members.
So that was really cool.
It was a packed house for that too.
It was like, where did all these peoplecome from at seven o'clock at night?

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That was awesome.
So unfortunately I didn'ttake as many videos.
We've got a bunch of photographs and stuffwe can share, but very cool experience,
even if you've never been there beforeand you don't wanna wait till next
Le Mans look at their demo schedule,pick something that resonates with you.
'cause they'll do four or five, half adozen cars and you get to kind of see how
the museum works on a basic level, andthen just extrapolate that out to four or

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five cars every other hour for 24 hours.
I mean, it's just.
Constant motion at the museum.
Set it up.
Let's go.
Got plenty of time this summer.
Set it up.
I'll be there.
I got the map and everythingalready on my phone.
I'm down to clown William.
I'm ready anytime you are.
Alright.
Ferrari, three peas at Le Mans.

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How come Ferrari Formulaone can't build a car.
That's worth a damn.
I'm just gonna lay it out there.
F1 is getting very, very boring.
You don't say especially watching Monaco.
That's just a joke.

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Charles Aire, however you wanna pronouncehis name, Charles, whatever, he'll
never be anything other than angry.
Yes, angry.
Angry.
Little Frenchman.
I'm sorry, manganese or whateverhe pronounce that mangas.
I think Louis Hamilton's passed hisprime new regulations come in next
year and it's either hit or miss.
'cause then you're always chasing it.
But it's whoever can nail it rightoutta the thing is gonna win.

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I mean, look what Mercedes did.
And all of a sudden, nowit's Red Bull came into it.
Now all of a sudden it's McClaren.
McClaren just got it, refined it andnailed down the little things to it.
But now all of a sudden, next year,it's completely new regulations.
You know, I always look at bothsides and say, well, you know, if you
look at qualifying that it's eitherno more than second or second half
between lap times and everyone'salways in 10, 10, this and that.

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But then you watch the race andeverything spreads out and just why
they can't get their shit together.
And I just can't believe that theywould get rid of Asur that quickly.
Yeah.
And put it all on him.
Come on, whoever nicked the ideaof bringing Newie and not just,
oh, here, here's the checkbook,Adrian, how much you want?
Whatever you need, get it.
Why they didn't sign him.
I don't know.
Someone's ego got in the way.
They didn't wanna have him there.

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And I don't know if it was au, whoeverit was, but that was a huge F up on their
part for not getting Adrian Newey huge.
Especially next year, Aston Martincomes out and starts just crushing it.
Heads will roll becausethat'll just prove the point.
I mean, as we all know, Adrian knewhe is just, you know, he's the man.
That's that.
And they'll have Honda engines,so they'll have the power, how
they can still call themselves.

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Aston Martin is beyond me.
I mean, so Tanya, you have this meme here.
It's not a meme, it's a quote.
Who's saying this?
Fred Vaser apparently.
And who is he referring to himself?
I don't know who the one thing is.
Is it the car at this point?
The motor.
Why don't you read it for our audience?
'cause they're not looking at this.
Fred Vaser is quoted as saying we mustask ourselves the right questions.

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If Ferrari hasn't won for years.
We've changed the team principle, thedrivers, we've changed everything.
Except one thing is thathis resignation like.
What is that?
Well, he's the principal that'schanged, so they've already done that.
I don't know.
Is it higher ups in Ferrari?
I think he's talking abouttheir mentality, I would think.
But I mean, obviously there's morethan that that needs to change.

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But the problem with Ferrari isthey're so bureaucratic in regards to
how they run everything internally.
It's.
Horrendous.
How is the Le Mans team?
How are the 4, 9, 9 Pguys getting away with it?
They built a killer carthree years in a row.
You said it already.
They're not a factory team.
They're a private tier.
Mm. And if they poach the guy that'srunning that now and put him in charge,

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get rid of Aser and put him in, then Okay.
Then there goes your Le Manss team.
They're done.
Yeah.
If they're trying to say that'sthe case, then they both suck.
Yeah.
Then they're both bad.
That's why I said Ferrari hasto leave Le Mans after this year.
They need to stop and go outon a high three in a row.
You know, wait another 52 years tocome back and just call it a day.
I feel like that's cowardly lying.

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They can't do that.
Ford's coming in next year.
They've gotta go against Ford.
They have to.
We need a new movie.
Ford V. Ferrari, part two.
Part two.
It'll be like hot shots.
Part part two.
Yeah, part part two.
Hot shots.
Part two.
That's awesome.
The second one, as long as it doesn'tend up like Highlander Part two.
Nevermind.
Like the naked gun.
Two and a half or whatever it was.

(34:53):
Oh, there is a new naked gun coming out.
Let's not go there.
Yeah, right.
Oh, sweet.
Don't search for thaton the internet kids.
So let's talk about Monacojust a little bit longer.
Although it doesn't need any moreairtime than it's already gotten.
The drivers hate the race.
The fans hate the race.
Why are they still racing there?
Other than that quote?
It's Monaco.

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And who gives a crap?
What's that Musical?
Tradition.
Tradition.
Bitler on the roof.
Yeah, there you go.
I don't even think it's gotanything to do with tradition.
I think it's money.
Oh yeah.
Now moving the date too.
They're changed all up.
Not gonna be on Memorial Weekend anymore.
Yeah, just a cash grab.
Yeah.
I mean, that's what it boils downto, you know, using that excuse.
Oh, it's traditional.

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Oh, there's, yeah, Tanyasaid Everyone hates it there.
Drivers hate it.
Teams hate it.
The cars are too big, there'sno passing, there's nothing.
And they tried to make it moreinteresting by forcing additional
pit stops and it did nothing.
Yeah, it did absolutely nothing.
It did not change the order of anything.
It made worse.
That should have been a no pit stop race.
Just get it done.
And there should have been blue flag blackflags for people that were just worse

(35:57):
than parade lapping and holding people up.
Like get outta the way.
I think for Monaco, I think they should.
Yeah.
Like Eric said, no pit stops andthen remove all FIA regulations.
Just let 'em go.
Just the the, the Mad Max race.
That would be awesome.
Thunderdome and every 10 laughs.
They gotta switch carswith their teammate.
They gotta jump in each other's car.
That would make it way betterbe like Formula E. In the old

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days, they gotta switch cars.
Yeah.
And they, they shouldstart a reverse grid.
There we go.
Ooh.
And then maybe every 20 lapsthe drivers get out and fight.
They get out into a fist fight.
If they did reverse grid, thatmight be the only opportunity.
Lance Scroll will ever win a race.
Lance scroll.
Lance school, if they would'vereversed Grided, Monaco,

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Antonelli would've been first.
Ah, that's true.
Haass could get a win.
If they reversed grid, it'd be amazing.
They still wouldn't get a win.
I'm impressed with Haass thisyear, I have to say, like they're
kind of middle of the pack.
There's no reason to reallymake fun of him anymore.
And there's other teams where you'relike, all right, Salberg is just
there waiting for Audi to take over.
And Aston Martin's pathetic.
And Williams is sort of, again,fighting in the middle, so

(37:04):
I can't really say too much.
But the ones I poke the mostfun at is Ferrari, and it's
heartbreaking every race.
Is pathetic.
I don't understand their dog shit.
Slow.
That's all I can say.
I don't unders like DRS wideopen drafting somebody and you
still can't get around them.
Oh, which race was it?
Catalonia?
I don't remember, but I know youdidn't believe me for the longest time
when I said the Ferraris are slow,like there is a problem with them.

(37:28):
And then you saw it when it waslike Hamilton versus LeClaire and
the DS Open couldn't pass them.
LeClaire couldn't passHamilton with the DRS open.
What are you talking about?
Yeah.
And then you see like whoever thehell else has with their DRS open
and they're like, shoot by somebody.
It's like, what is that?
It's an air break insteadof like a speed up.
It was team orders.

(37:48):
Yeah, they get on the radio,let him buy Why Made sense.
You know why?
Because you end up like Lando in Canada.
That's why.
Oh, what a knucklehead.
What was he thinking?
That guy is.
His own worst enemy.
And he chokes.
He chokes.
What a knucklehead.
Yeah.
Where do you think you were going?

(38:08):
Yeah, that was a eye racing move.
Like he was suddenly gonna havetraction and space on an island
that is the size of Brad's shoe.
Well he, he must have thought prywas just gonna move over for him.
'cause Ptri held his line.
He didn't move to the left,he didn't pinch him off.
He was in a position and he heldthat position and then he thought
he was just gonna fit in halfthe size of a Formula One car.

(38:30):
Maybe he thought he was gonna pull that.
Uh, what that guy did, theNASCAR move where he just.
Pinned it against the wall andjust pinned it and went around.
He figured you just slammedthe wall and go, no, no.
Like the cars movie where hebounces up and then he flips
over and lands on the other side.
Yeah, that would've been great.
Yeah.
There we go.
Fantastic.
James Bond stuff.
Ugh.
Canada was boring.
Just like Monaco because it's too small.

(38:51):
It's too tight.
It's just one car width wide.
I mean, it's just.
Ugh.
That's another one that, it's tradition.
They run Canada.
'cause they, they have to havea Grand Prix in Canada, I guess.
Well I thought they weregetting away from that track.
I thought they were supposedto go, um, where to Mosport.
I, I thought they were moving awayfrom the island for that reason.
'cause one going racing,two accessibility.

(39:12):
'cause it's a nightmare in regards to Yes.
There's only those two ways or oneway to get on and off that island.
Well, and you gotta get bused on.
Yeah.
You can't park there.
There's no grandstands.
Well there are grandstands.
Stop saying that you sawthem compared to Dakota.
There's like no grandstands.
There's like nothing.
There might as well be threechairs and 10 people like
playing, you know, musical chairs.

(39:32):
Yeah.
I always thought they were moving itto downtown or something like that.
They're gonna do action.
Oh, that'd be even worse.
We went to Montreal a couple years ago.
The streets downtown.
Oh, they're horrendous.
It might as well be Jeep Wranglersracing, not formula cars.
Well, not even that, but Montrealis a very grid laid out, plus
city courses are all terrible.
Yeah, they're all awful.
Look at Monaco.

(39:52):
They should move it to Toronto anddrive around the skydome parking lot.
Oh, that's like what they'retrying to do for indie car.
Right.
And down in Texas or whatever.
Down in Dallas.
Yeah, around the stadium.
But then that ends up like Miami, right.
And then you're like, that's horrible.
Sucks too.
Now I will say I have a newfoundappreciation for Catalonia.
That was actually a decent race.
The Spanish Grand Prix was pretty good.
The outcome was nothingshort of to be expected.

(40:15):
So I was like, all right, whatever.
But again, Ferrari can'tget outta their own way.
Hey, that's the first race they podium.
By luck.
How many cars were, uh.
Yeah.
D nfd.
Yeah.
Disqualified.
Exactly three.
What were there?
Were there 18 cars?
Dnf and nothing's gonna change nowfor Ian season because no one's doing
anything more with their cars this year.
It's all going to 2026.
There might be one or two changes here andthey're very minimal, but, so nothing's

(40:38):
really gonna change in the order.
Pastor's gonna be world champion.
The Spanish GP was exciting becausewe hadn't seen it for a while.
We got to see Tappin'strue colors once again.
Oh, that was so good.
Oh man, that was good.
God.
I wanted him to get somehow some ways,so he got that last point on his license
so he could get banned for the next race.
Get suspended.
That'd been awesome.
It's astonishing that at the veryleast he wasn't DQ from that race.

(41:00):
Yeah.
Collusion.
I mean, he pretty much was onthe radio saying, I'll show him.
And then purposely triedto punt him off the track.
I have said it before, you can take theracer out of the cart, but you can't
take the cart racer out of the boy.
He drives like a cart racer.
No, that was not a cartracing move at all.

(41:23):
That was a an aggressive, vindictive move.
My racing move premeditated because he hadall the space in the world not to do that.
I agree with all of those thingsand that sends a bad message
to people that are watching.
So you think Red Bull willpay him a hundred million
dollars next season to stay at?
Only thing that would keep him there cash.
Rumor is he wants to leave.

(41:43):
Saw that too.
But I, I don't know.
Then there's rumors.
He is gonna gonna go to Astonor he is gonna go to Mercedes
or he is gonna go here.
He is gonna go there.
Really?
I don't know is gonna go to Aston.
'cause Adrian's there.
That's the only reason.
Is he gonna be the seconddriver to Lance who?
Yeah.
Who do you get rid of?
Let's play this game.
Who do you get rid of?
Stroll or Alonzo?

(42:04):
Who does Daddy Warbuck's fire?
Well, Alonzo's 62 yearsold, so he needs to retire.
But he's a better driver than Stroll.
Well, but Lance can't go dotennis now 'cause of his wrist.
So he is stuck.
F1.
Yeah.
Oh, poor baby.
And the, and the worst part is, and I'vesaid this by watching the race Alonzo,
they like give him a little taste oflike being like at the front again

(42:25):
and the excitement of the old days.
And then it's like, Fernando get backin line and start toeing Lance around
because that's what he's paid to do.
He has Lance on his ass the wholetime cutting through traffic
and just toes lance around.
That's what he's paid to do.
I wouldn't want that job.
And if I was for stopping, Iwouldn't want that job either.
Regardless of Adrian Newey.

(42:47):
No.
'cause that's what you're signingup to do is tow that guy around.
If I was making the money thatthey're making, I would tow Lance
Stroll wherever the fuck youwanted to go for his entire life.
I don't even care.
You want to toe to McDonald's?
Let's go.
Yeah.
You wanna tow to Starbucks?
You want me to tow youthrough the Starbucks?
Drive through?
Let's it No, no No's you, youwanna toe to Timmy's Tim Horton's.

(43:08):
Oh yeah.
You, you wanna tow to the Horton's?
Yeah.
Let's get it right.
Let's get it right.
Official sponsor of the F1 movie is KFC.
You're gonna tow him to getsome Kentucky Fried chicken.
Oh, hell yeah.
Can tow you the KFC.
You seen those commercials?
They're, I thought itwas Taco Bell is okay.
No, it's KFC.
Well, it's the same company anyway.
KFC, taco Bell, McDonald's, whatever.
It's all, it's all Pepsi.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.

(43:28):
Well, so speaking of the movie,is anyone here going to pay
to go see it in the theater?
They're gonna wait tillit comes out on Apple.
I have small children.
I will not be paying to go see anything.
Oh, coming out on Apple.
Oh, that's right.
Well, I don't have Apple.
Well, you it.
Yeah.
So four weeks after it'sreleased, it'll come out on Apple.
It should be.
Or six weeks.
I'll get it on Voodoo.
Yeah.
I just canceled my Apple tv, so Yeah.
I won't be watching it for another year.
I mean, I think I havea gift card to a MC.

(43:52):
God.
God.
Well, you're gonna do an episode aboutit if, if you go see it, I know you're
gonna go see it, William, come on.
Yeah, I'm gonna go see it.
We got this great new theaterthat opened up that's got the
reclining seats and everything.
That, and tickets are only like $11 dirtcheap instead of like the 20 something.
Yeah, it's, it's awesome.
It's Phoenix Theaters new first onein this area, I guess, or something.
Or they're starting, I don't know.
But yes, $10 and 79 centsor something like that.

(44:15):
That's not just Matt and Nate.
That's like anytime.
Wow.
At night you can go.
It's like me and my wife and daughterwent the other night, saw movies.
All three of us tickets were only32 bucks for all three of us.
Do you have to make yourown popcorn in the back?
Well, I mean, I was smugglingmy own candy, of course.
And my diet.
Mountain Dews.
Do you gotta stand there and run the reel?
Yeah.
Well it's good exercise.
That's why is one arm'sbigger than the other?

(44:36):
Yeah.
All you have to do is cleanup and vacuum after the movie.
That's, oh, there you go.
Put on a vest and just clean up.
You gotta sell concessions to the nextmovie, the, the next time slot too.
Exactly.
It's all give and take.
Yeah.
So Tanya, you mentioned to me the otherday that there are proposed wing changes.
That means that the Ferrari'sare gonna be even slower.

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Is that right?
They're just gonna remove four bolts.
Yeah, there you go.
That was a headline that was floatingout there, but I think in the end
it does all have to do with thecrackdown on the front wing deflection.
Ah, okay.
But I think they ended up changing more ofthe front wing design as a result of that.
And so I think it went intoeffect ahead of Canada.

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So I don't know that it necessarilynegatively impacted 'em 'cause
they were as slow as normal, so.
They didn't get any slower.
That's a plus, butthat's a slow track too.
But Clare didn't changeanything from my understanding.
They didn't change nothing.
Everyone else had tochange or they changed it.
So then that's why they're tryingto file protests or something like
that and said, no, it's within line.
I mean, I know who the biggest culpritwas of that flexi wing, Adrian Newey.

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I'd love to see his, you know, hisoffice and just seeing him go into town
at the big drafting table, still usingthe mechanical pencil and everything.
That'd be unbelievable to see.
No, it's like that episode of the officewhere he walks in and he shuts the door
and he closes the blinds and he sitsdown and he starts crying at his desk.
That's what Adrian isdoing at Aston right now.
What I do, what I do,that's what he's doing.

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Well that wraps up our showcase devotedto Le Mans and Formula One with the
undertone of Ferrari mixed in there.
If we didn't talk about enoughmotor sports news, we need
to go over the pit wall.
Quickly add one more topic for our motorsports news this month, and this goes
back to the Monaco GP weekend, MemorialDay Indy 500, Kyle Larson Double Fail.

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This is what I call theJoe Flacco syndrome.
Do you remember number oneelite quarterback in the world?
Joe Flaco.
He would like self-proclaimed Kyle Larson.
Yes, I get that.
He's a NASCAR champion.
But the same thing, right?
Like I'm, I can beat all those Formulaone guy, I'm faster than max for stepin,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
All the other bs, you know, armchairquarterbacking that we all do as razors,

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but he crashes at Indy, gets on a plane,flies to Charlotte for the, whatever, the
Coca-Cola 600 or wherever the heck it was.
And then crashes there too, you know?
But you're the best driver on the planet.
I'd love to see him get in aformula car and show that he's
better than Max for Stepin.
Yes, he ain't never gonna do that.
I'd love to see, for staffing, godo the Indy 500 and beat everybody.

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He'd be so bored, he'd be like, I'venever driven longer than 75 laps.
This is ridiculous.
Get me out of here.
That's it for Motors Sports News.
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and then click on sweepstakesfrom the upper right corner.
And so we should probably get back to ourregularly scheduled granting and raving.
And so, William, since you're herewith us, normally we would jump into
Volkswagen, added Porsche news, right?
Because that's sort of our bias.
I decided to switch things up temporarilyand switch over to STIs because they

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are the parent company behind, you know,Fiat and Ferrari and all that fun stuff.
There was a headline that came outthat says, this is from Ferrari,
and it reads, there is zerodemand for the next Ferrari ev.
And I was like, wait,there was a Ferrari ev.
What was the first Ferrari ev?
Well, first it was gonna be thederivative of the new 12 dolche

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salinity or whatever it was.
They're gonna do that.
But then they realized there'sprobably no uptake on it.
So then they switched it over to theSUV, would've been the PO San way,
but EV one, then they realize nobodywants to buy a fricking electric
car, so they're like, forget it.
They change it so many times to figureout what type of car they wanna put it in.
And you see, you know, all the littlesecret prototype cars coming out.
There's a great guy that'sVarix, V-A-R-I-Y-X-X-I.

(49:15):
I dunno, that just basicallycamps out every day outside Marine
and just takes photos of stuff.
There is so many differentvariations and everything, 'cause
obviously you can hear it driving.
No sound.
They had multiple ones that they werejust trying to go through, but I think
they were thinking they were gonna beable to slide in where they, it would
be the uptake would be because of whatthe car was, you know, A SUV, you know,

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not a sedan or coupe or what have you.
So they kind of kept transitioning.
Now they came to realization just as everyother manufacturer in this world did.
Nobody wants stinking electric cars.
Hybrid is the answer though.
Yes, it is.
Well, speaking of electric cars andtalking more about Stellantis last month,
we've talked about yet again, Jeff Bezos.
Quote unquote, Amazon coming to thetable with the slate Ev, you know, the

(49:58):
affordable pickup truck that you can doall this bolting on and make it look like
a Bronco or make it look like a maverick.
You can be a pickup or you can bean SUV, or you can be this, you can
be that, you know, for the low, lowbargain base price of $20,000 and
you get rolled up windows and air inyour tires and all that fun thing.
Well, the CEO of Ram division of Solanis,you know, Dodge trucks used to be right.
He came out and said there'sabsolutely no way that they can

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produce this truck for $20,000.
That's a on paper vehicle whenyou actually go to go buy it.
So here we go.
Here's the bait and switch Tesla model.
It's gonna end up being 30, $40,000like everything else, because
you're gonna want the options, andthe options aren't gonna be cheap.
They're not gonna give you theBronco version of the same truck.
For the same cost as the one withoutit, it's just, it's not gonna work.

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So he's calling them to carpet on the,you know, the bargain basement truck.
And not only that, he comes out sayingthat this undercuts the rest of the
truck market, which is where I havea problem, because now we have the
pot calling the kettle black becausebig trucks are too damn expensive.
What am I getting for a hundredthousand dollars from your ram?
So we gotta sort of meet in the middlehere on these trucks at some point.

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I like the fact, you know, going backto basics with that, in essence with
the roll up windows, everything likethat, there's no big screen or whatnot.
Hey, you use your own phone orwhatever and just ties all in together.
Maybe it was when you buy, it'sjust a rolling chassis, you
gotta put in your own engine.
It's like the movie theater.
You gotta make the popcorn in the back.
Exactly.
You know, I find it hilarious thatwe're talking about an electric vehicle.

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The power plant is driven byjust one giant battery and it's
gonna have roll up windows.
Those are extra electrons.
That is just.
Completely absurd.
Just throw some Duro cells in there.
Who cares?
There we go.
No, it's like red green show.
Remember when he had the cordlessdrill and he made the manual windows

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go up and down with his drill?
That's how he made power windows.
The same thing.
Just put a half inch chuck inthere and just, they just power
it with the Ryobi 18 volt.
Done.
Yeah, take a couple of those in there.
All your peripherals.
Just throw a couple, a couplehundred of those in there each,
and just take them out as they die.
When's that thingsupposed to be available?
Are they even taking deposits?

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Are they taking a hundred dollarsdeposits yet the third Saturday of never.
That's when it's coming out.
Obviously he needs some sort of taxbenefit for all his money, so he just
dump it into that as a nice writeoff.
What comes out first?
The slate?
The scout or the Tesla Roadster.
Oh, damn.
Why you gotta do that to me?
Or the DeLorean?
It's gotta be the slate.

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He's the most liquid, cash wise.
Yeah.
The other ones are all pipe dreams.
Tesla's going down this crapper.
You know Mr. Numb nuts.
And you remember at Monty Pythonand the people rejoice a Yeah.
Talk about way to sink your own company.
Just start doing what that moron did.
Well, what is it that Elon said whenthe cyber truck finally rolled out?
We signed our own deathcertificate or something like that.

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It's the best vehicle ever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With the salute.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
All right.
Well, in Volkswagen, Audi andPorsche land, I. And there's
been some shuffling of the deck.
There has been for thelast couple of years.
It all started, in my opinion, whenthey fired the guy who designed the
ID buzz and all the new retro carsthat they were coming out with.

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It's all just been this round robin ofCEOs and design chiefs and this and that.
And we know Volkswagen just puttingout stuff that nobody wants.
But unfortunately this hasbecome systemic and now this.
Plague that has infested Volkswagenis finding its way over to Audi and
they released what their new designlanguage is gonna look like for the next

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generation Audis, which are coming outbasically later this year into next year.
And, oh God, it's ugly.
This is the ugliest passat I've ever seen.
And I think you said on Discord.
Why did they bolt the GTIfront end to the Audi?
It was more like F they did that.
It's really bad.
And if this is what the new Audisare gonna look like, you're really

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gonna have a hard time telling them.
Apart from the Lexi and the new BMWsand everything else that's on the road,
they just look like anything else.
And in profile, this particular carlooks a lot like the old Passade.
Oof, no thank you.
Even the hood, the shape, it's alittle bit flatter than the new golf.
But the new golf, they made itvery, almost more beetle like.

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And that's not a good thing actuallyfor these either of these cars.
I don't know.
It's disappointing.
I definitely, and the reason I bring thisup is Audi is selling, or has sold by this
point etal design, so put it all together.
They're getting rid of one ofthe most famous Italian design
houses of the modern era.
And this is what they've come up withbecause they weren't happy with maybe

(54:40):
whatever retail design was coming up with.
You guys are making thebiggest mistake of your lives.
I guess this is theBengal period for Audi.
That's what's coming, but we'll see.
I could be proven wrong.
It's been known to happen.
Yes.
So whoa, whoa.
What is this?
Do I see some Swedishmeatballs on the list?
We have some Volvo news, whichwe don't normally have ever.
Now.
This is less about a new carcoming out and more about a new

(55:04):
technology and I don't know whatis this that I feel good about it.
So Volvo obviously has a long historyand a long reputation for safety, right?
They were the first to invent, Ibelieve, the three point safety
belt, four cars back in the day.
Now they've come up with a new innovationto the seatbelt, and it very much worries

(55:28):
me when the words over the air updatesand if my seatbelt ooh, are used in
the same sentence, Ooh, that's bad.
That makes me really uncomfortable.
So we can just start there.
That's where this is going.
So apparently they're introducinga new seatbelt design.
That essentially is completely sensorbased to the level that it's going to

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detect your height, your weight, your bodyshape, how you're sitting in your seat.
It's going to take that day, aggregate it,do whatever, and it's going to optimize
the tension, the load of the belt for you.
What you invented the seatbeltlike 60 years ago or more.

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It's worked pretty well.
I mean, granted, depending on theaccident, there's some things you can't
survive, but for the most part, the threepoint belt with the design of the seats
and how they crumple, everything works.
Safety as a system and as youcan learn about in other previous
podcasts, it all works together.
This is an overdesigning solvinga problem that doesn't exist.

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I have a couple points.
Oh, one to Tanya'spoint, it's a cash grab.
They can't make money on the oldseatbelt design, and they can't
sell cars because they suck.
So they're looking for a cash grab totry and revolutionize the, the wheel.
They're trying to remake the wheel.
Also, looking at the explodedview of the parts and everything.
This thing has more partsthan my tundra motor.

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And at what point are they going to sendthis information about your seatbelt
and if you're wearing it properly, tothe authorities Uhhuh, where they can
send you an an over-the-air ticket.
Yep.
For not having your seatbelt properlysecured or link it to your insurance.
Yeah.
And then you, yeah.
Again, oh, you weren't wearingyour seatbelt for 35 milliseconds

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on February 4th, 2028.
You know, you get a $50 fine andwe're gonna drop your insurance,
and they're opening themselves upto data privacy because now it's
recording your personal informationthat's going to be stored somewhere.
Let's say that's hackable by someone.
I don't know.
It's the modern world.
We're in the internet of things.
I have a bigger question to ask.

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How much does thisseatbelt contraption weigh?
A lot.
I'd imagine there's a lotof moving parts on this.
It looks like a transmission.
It looks like these are gears.
Imagine one of those parts fails.
It is ridiculous.
One of these little componentsfails and then what?
Your seatbelt doesn't workproperly and then you die.
Do you have to take the car infor seatbelt maintenance now?
Like, is that gonna be partof your dealership plan?

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How much is this gonna cost?
Is there like an oilchange on your seatbelt?
You gotta keep those parts lubricated.
We used to make fun of muffler bearings.
Those are a real thing.
If you have a baffled exhaust,there's bearings in the exhaust.
There might be a lot of bearingsin this seatbelt assembly.
They're, they're gonna releaseit on December 31st, 2025, and
they're gonna have the firstmass recall on January 1st, 2026.

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Geez Louise.
This is ridiculous.
Switching gears and talkingabout domestic cars.
Some sad news.
This is specifically with Ford, but hothatches are officially dead at Ford.
Wait, they're officially dead nowand not like already 10 years ago.
No, no.
The final hot hatch was built at Ford.

(58:44):
That's it.
Uh, Ford, America or Ford.
Globally, there are no more hot hatches.
Period.
So after 45 years of hot hatches at Ford.
So Ford is exiting the European market.
That's what I'm reading between the lines.
Yes.
So no more Ka none done.
No more hatchbacks.

(59:05):
Okay, cool.
Bold plan cotton.
Yeah.
We'll see how this plays out for you.
That's a shame because b spectcars like the Fiesta are hot.
They're in demand.
People like them.
They want them.
And then, you know,slightly bigger the focus.
Stuff like that.
But yeah, no, they're done.
They're out.
Are they still running Fords in Rally?
And what does this do to the rally teams?
Yeah, so they're running the Puma inRally, which is a hatchback as well.

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It's slightly bigger than even the focus.
A little lower, a little longer, but stilla hatchback, you know, in that design.
But yeah, the Puma's gone too.
So I'm curious what Ford's gonna runin WRC if they don't kind of keep
the puma going along for a littlewhile, but maybe they're gonna
pull out, they're gonna run a mki.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, they have their new super duperEV card that they're building to take

(59:50):
on Volkswagen's Pike's Peak record.
Good luck chasing the IDR up the mountain.
That was a hell of a run.
But Ford is trying on all fronts becausethe Mustang GTD just set its quote
unquote lightning lap at the Berg ring.
And I said to myself, does thiseven matter anymore with the change
in the automotive landscape andEVs and all that kinda stuff?

(01:00:10):
I don't know.
An ev, they can do alightning lap at the ring.
'cause the ring's so long.
I guess they've done it in ez,but they get like one lap right?
Or two at maximum.
And I guess the take hand wouldbe the only other one, but.
Is it really important anymore that aMustang can do A fast lap at the ring?
How many spectators didit hit around the track?
What?
A bit a lap time's not Yeah.
How many spectators didit hit at the track?

(01:00:32):
Oh my God.
Yeah.
So I mean, good for Ford.
They're trying and the Mustang competedat Le Mans another car that didn't really
get a lot of airtime over the weekend.
So actually sort of forgot.
I was like, oh yeah, there's Mustangsrunning in GTLM or GT three rather.
But anyway, good for Ford.
Get rid of the hot hatchbacks.
Focus on the Mustang if that's where youthink your market is and sell trucks.
Boom.
Done.

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So switching to Asian domestic news,I'm just gonna read this headline.
Nissan's new budget sedanwas just leaked online.
Uh,
a new Altima design.
What?
Right.
They don't make anything else.
Exactly.
So I guess there's a new Altima coming.
What is this rendering?
What is this trash?
This is what Nissan can afford right now.

(01:01:14):
Okay.
Oh my God's that bad.
It's really bad.
It.
Looks like a Tesla ora Lucid or something.
It's awful.
We all are copying each other so as peruse, so it'll look like the new Audi, so
we won't be able to tell the difference.
I read that headline completely different.
I read it as the, it just leaked online,meaning like there needs to be a cleanup
of someone's oil all over the internet.

(01:01:39):
Toyota's doing some math.
How about this?
9 million EVs are just aspolluting as 27 million hybrids.
I'd like to see their lifecycle analysis.
This is the Jeremy Clarksonlifecycle analysis.
Remember that thing you did on top gearwhere he showed like where the batteries
for a Prius came from and like the stripmining and this and that, and then it gets
transported here, and then it gets puton a ship and by the time it's done Yeah,

(01:02:01):
it goes around the world three times.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then when the car is finallydestroyed or whatever, where it all
goes, that is a true lifecycle analysis.
It is called cradle to grave.
That means from the very beginninginception of where all the parts come.
Mm-hmm.
All the way to where all the partsgo, when the thing is no longer.
Functioning anymore.
A lot of people choose to draw thebox that they say their lifecycle

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is around a different part of thatwhole manufacturing chain, and that's
where the math can get kind of funny.
And that's where statistics and numbersand all that kind of stuff, you can
play around and have the data say whatyou want it to say if you don't know
what the fine print of the data is.
So I don't know what the basis of this is.
I mean, if he's basing it on the factthat those 9 million EVs, they're

(01:02:47):
getting their materials by colonizingMars, then yes, obviously the Prius's
are better for the environment.
I mean, it goes back to the argument thatsome people have made from the onset of
the EVs, that the actual manufacturerof them is the polluting part.
Though there is data that I haveseen, it comes down to what your

(01:03:09):
manufacturing process is, right?
It's, it's not as simple as just saying,oh, I made an EV and it's super polluting
and horrible, and the manufacturingprocess was worse than, you know, the oil
refining and a gas car and all this stuff.
Because if you had.
Renewable as your energysource for making the car.
Then suddenly that's awhole other can of worms.
But then you could argue, well, if I hadrenewable for when I made the regular gas

(01:03:32):
car, that's a whole other can of worms.
But you still got the oil refiningpart of there, which is a problem.
Right?
So it's a very dynamic situationreally, and nobody ever actually
explains or shows where the data comesfrom and what's behind these claims,
other than they're very sensational.
Yeah, I mean that's verystark to say, nine verse 27.
I'd sort of like my math from earlier.

(01:03:53):
Any rate, slight publicservice announcements.
If you are a Mazda owner, there is arecall underway for all Mazda threes and
CX thirties because apparently we'd neverlearned our lesson about Tata airbags.
So that's really all Ineed to say about that.
Well, they got 'em at a discount.
Fire sale.
You notice they're in the cheap Mazdas?

(01:04:14):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not the CX 90 or or whatever.
Not the more expensive ones.
The cheap ones the budget friendly.
Well, speaking of budget friendlyBrad, it's time we go and look under
Lost and found your favorite sectionof the drive through where we call
up Chuck La Duck and Gray Chevroletand see what they have on the lot.
And I found something that screams.
Your next purchase knowingyou sold your R 32.

(01:04:38):
Got a little cash in your pocket.
You should pick up this OldsmobileBravada pickup truck bra.
Nada.
This thing is terrible.
I love the license plate cut in half.
Can I ask a serious question?
Sure.

(01:04:58):
Did Daniel do this?
That's what I was thinkingtoo, because this looks like
something Daniel would've done.
Right.
I got old GMC.
Jimmy, I'm won't cut it.
No, this is a bad idea from the wordgo Next up is gonna be that mercury
wagon he's got up there at the mountain.
He's gonna cut it up into one of these.
This is the question I alwaysseem to be asking myself.

(01:05:18):
What compels people to do this?
Because you probably could have boughta flatbed pickup that he's trying to
achieve with this at like a governmentauction for like next to nothing.
And yet how much time, effort,labor built, not bought.
Hold my beard.
Yeah, I guess so.
Wait, we're not gonna talk aboutthe teeth on the front of it.

(01:05:38):
What is that about?
That's, that makes it look tough.
It's gonna eat you up.
It's gonna cut you inhalf with those teeth.
It's the truck's bravado.
Ooh.
Oh that's bad.
That joke was cut in half.
And then, wait, hold on.
Okay, wait, wait.
So we do all this workUhhuh, we chop this MF up.
We put the fangs and the, the vampireteeth on it, Uhhuh, and then we leave it

(01:06:02):
this nasty Oldsmobile brown color in thecatalog that's listed as diarrhea brown.
Okay.
Not only that, you've done all thiswork to make it a flatbed pickup truck.
Looks like something super industrial.
It can tow as much as those Cushman cartsthat we talked about on the last episode.
Like what's the payload on this thing?
Like 500 pounds.
It can't tow anything.

(01:06:22):
You can't do anything with it.
So what's the point?
You can't even put mulch on there.
No, it'll slide off.
It would fly out.
But you can weld an enginecrane to the back of it though.
And then it becomeslike a little tow truck.
Are you trying to do thosegolf carts from the last time?
So moving on.
Lost and found.
Well, guess what?
If one of your bucket list carsis a quote unquote Eleanor Mustang
from the New Gone in 60 Seconds.

(01:06:43):
'cause you know, we always have todifferentiate between the original
gone in 60 seconds, the Mach oneMustang that they had in that versus,
you know, the 66 Shelby GT 500 thatthey used in the Nicholas Cage movie.
If you've always wanted one of those,and you probably know the story about how
there's been lawsuits and lawsuits aboutmaking Eleanor replicas and copyrights

(01:07:03):
and this and that, well guess what?
Court has now.
Overturned all the appeals and replicasof the 66 Shelby GT 500 Eleanor are
legal at least for the time beinguntil the next round of lawsuits.
So if you wanna build one,now's the time to do it.
You are not gonna getin trouble for doing it.
That's exciting.
They're gorgeous.
So stupid.

(01:07:24):
I know, right?
William knows all about that onthe Porsche side of the house,
what you can and can't do.
And call.
And can't call.
Right.
That's why Singer can'tuse Porsche in their name.
Right.
Singer Design.
Yeah.
If you ever go to the bottom ofsinger page, look how many times
they state they're not affiliated.
All this stuff.
Porsche don't like that at all.
That's kinda surprising though with this.
It's a very Ferrari thing to do.

(01:07:44):
Yeah.
Ferrari just doesn't allowyou to modify anything.
That's a no-no.
That's verboten.
Speaking of William, did you see thatnew Baby Blue F 40 that was redone that
was restored and they repainted it?
Yeah, it looks really cool.
Like really good.
Oh yeah.
I dunno if you watch on YouTube,watch the guy from Stance Works.
You ever see that guy?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's doing that.
Building a tube frame, everything forties.

(01:08:06):
He's got the, I I, I'm excitedto see how that thing turns out.
I think he's gonna do a nice job.
I, I think it's gonna turn out sweet.
You know when you get one up there.
I mean, have some fun with it.
Yeah.
But yeah, the baby bluething is beautiful.
Those things look great inother colors, that's for sure.
Yeah.
Not just red or black.
Not just red or black,although they look damn good.
Black.
But anyway, this next one,Tanya, this came across my desk.

(01:08:27):
Before it came across yours.
I was actually hiding this up my sleeve.
And then you posted on aDiscord and I was like, no.
She must have a Google filter lookingfor totally rad things like replacement
headsets for a car from 1985.
And Pioneer has answered your prayers,oh man, I gotta want that so bad.
But it's not sold here.
That's so shortsighted and so stupid.

(01:08:48):
There are some other, like BlauPunk actually does make something
that you can, I believe buy here.
So might have to think about thesekind of things in the future.
So if you've got an older car or you don'treally have any options, it's singled in,
it's a tape deck, like what do you do?
And you don't have the dash space to goput something different in and you just

(01:09:10):
want a more modern looking tape deckthat still has a cassette and you need
your cassette adapter and all this stuff.
Like what?
But these Pioneer and also BLO punk,they've actually made calling it the
retro head unit and it legit looks likevery clean, not kind of, you know, back
in the day they had all the, the gaudysingle in unit and you could take the

(01:09:31):
face plate off because it was the hotnessto, you know, have your radio stolen or
whatever so you could remove the face.
And it had all the bright neon colorsand all the buttons and all that stuff.
These are very clean, like almost factory.
Style radios period appropriate, andthe cassette is there except it's
a flap and when you open it, it'sgot USB Ox in Come with Bluetooth.

(01:09:55):
It's awesome if you wanna keep your carlooking period appropriate, but also have
modern radio technology not running aroundwith the wires in the carcass set adapter.
Try and use one of those otherair over FM transmitters.
It never really works verywell, blah, blah, blah.
$500. I think the pioneer one issomething like that, or 500 Euros,
which is pretty expensive, but.

(01:10:16):
If you got kind of a, I don't wannasay collector car, but a car from back
in the, the eighties or early ninetieseven, that you really care about it, it
could be worth spending the money on.
And also a lot of those radios fromback then tended to basically die.
Yeah.
Especially the cassette adapters.
The cassette portion of themwould sometimes break down.
You'd get your cassette stuck orthey would just stop really working.

(01:10:37):
And what and what do you do?
And even the technology ofthe, the radios themselves,
the receivers aren't very good.
And you'd struggle to getlocal broadcast channels.
So something like this, more modernin your old car is really pretty cool.
So you're gonna get one once.
You can get one is what?
Once I can get one.
It would look great in the Audi.
Yeah, it would.
And that Blo Punkespecially looks factory.
The Pioneer looks a little chintzy,but the Blo punk's nice too.

(01:11:00):
It's got SD card reader and a bunch ofother features that the Pioneer doesn't.
So I approve this message.
This is good.
Good stuff.
Good.
Find, make sure you addit to the Christmas.
Yeah.
Christmas Special Man.
2025 is the year that keepson giving to our uncool wall.
This one came across mydesk literally today.
Wow.
I don't even know whatto say about this car.

(01:11:21):
What did, what did it say?
What is, it was something aboutthe sound this makes or something
and or the sound you hear.
What was that?
That was written with it?
Because the sound I heard was, oh, Isaid suddenly heard the Inspector Gadget
theme song playing when I see this.
Oh yeah, no, I suddenly heard that.
Sound of somebody w retching.
This is horrendous.
And then I thought about William andI was like, wasn't there a Ferrari?

(01:11:43):
They called the bread van?
Was it?
It was like a Ferrari two 50short wheel base or something.
Yes, it was built byCount Volpi or whatever.
'cause he was pissed off 'causeEnzo wouldn't sell him a two 50 GTO.
So he wanted to have somethingthat was basically the same thing.
So had biz design andbuild it to annoy him.
That's why I made it astation wagon, bread van.
Everyone called it Breadvan to piss off Enzo.

(01:12:03):
And that thing was fast man.
I think it went and competed withhim was good, but it basically
was an FU to Enzo is what he did.
'cause he wouldn't sell a GTO.
It sounds like there's a theme there.
A lot of people are doing an FU days.
Yeah.
I mean this car is an FU to everybody.
I understand that the R 33 is notnecessarily the GTR that everybody wants,

(01:12:24):
but to go spend the money to do this.
Hmm.
It looks like a truck cap on it.
It's wild.
Did you guys notice theplacement of the sunroof?
Who does that benefit?
Not even above the back seats.
I was like, why is itall the way back there?
Like, what is this?
Maybe this is a really good Photoshop.
Really good Photoshop, but I have afeeling this is California hot rotting.

(01:12:47):
If you think about it, if they justgrafted that on, so that's all new.
Where that sunroof is like from theline of the roof line back would be new.
So anything they didn't change,they didn't wanna cut into
the roof of the car itself.
The original, they just grafted that on.
Maybe that's awful.
And that rear window, the moldingtoo, is like three inches thick.

(01:13:08):
It looks like a porthole on a ship.
It's awful.
But anyway, we'll leave itup to the audience to decide.
I, I am constantly surprised whenI log onto the uncool wall and
see all the votes and see howstuff shifts from month to month.
Like there are cars now that are,people are judging as you know,
these are actually kind of cool.
And I'm like, I would've neverpicked that for the life of me.
Like these would've beenthe bottom of the barrel.
Now the classics are alwaysat the top of the list, right?

(01:13:31):
The Aztec and the HHRand the PT Cruiser and.
All the usual suspects, but thisone I had to add it to the list.
If you wanna check out what we'retalking about, go to gt motorsports.org,
click on podcast, and then uncoolwall, and you can go vote on
over 60 cars on our uncool wall.
All right.
We don't have any Tesla news, but we dohave what Brad has, retitled seriously.

(01:13:53):
What could go wrong?
And Brad, I need you to share thisstory with the audience because
I heard you got into a fight.
Yeah.
You should see theother, the other mammal.
I heard it was an animal.
You should see the other mammal.
Yes, yes, yes.
So wait, wait, wait.
Is this a dashboard confessional?

(01:14:15):
My family was walking homefrom the neighbor's house after
dinner minding our own business,just walking through the yard.
And this Mike Tyson deer came up andwas like, gimme your lunch money.
And we were like, nah, fool.
And then it just started attackingmy kids and my wife, and she jumped

(01:14:35):
on top of the kids to protect them.
It tried to trample on her.
So I literally.
Hulked it.
I went over, I picked it up likeliterally lifted this 150 pound deer
and threw it, and it kept coming back.
So I'm like punching it.
I've got my arms around its neck.
At some point, I mentallydecide that I'm going to kill
this deer with my bare hands.

(01:14:56):
Hulk smash you.
I mean, you're, you're laughingand you, you joke in the moment.
I mean this, it was life or death andit, it was not going to be my death.
I, I let it go, was able to scare itoff a little bit to get the family
inside, but it kept coming back.
Wow.
And I was in my neighbor's yard.
I could not find a usable stickas a weapon because he's very

(01:15:18):
good at grooming his yard.
I eventually found somethingand my neighbor drove, you know,
the family back to the house.
I walked across the street tomake sure that I could have eyes
on the deer, but it tracked meall the way back to my, my door.
Eventually I got it to just run offand ran around the neighbor's house.
Fast forward, it's terrorizinganother family down the street now.

(01:15:40):
Dang.
And I don't know if anybodyfollows me on Instagram.
I think I've got like two followers.
But I posted a picture of like my baseballbat that I've had for like 20 plus years.
Basically I walk to and from my office,'cause my office is in my detached garage.
I walked to and frommy office with the bat.
Wow.
There's the story.
And it's a female deer, right?
Yes.
It's a doe, a deer.

(01:16:01):
A female deer.
It's not like those shows onNational Geographic when deers
attack, you know, it's usuallylike some other large predator.
Is it the color of your carthat like pissed off this deer?
No.
So the theory 'cause animal controlcame out and did absolutely nothing.
Thank you so much Chesterfield AnimalControl for wasting my tax dollars

(01:16:25):
on your fuel to come out and tellus, oh yeah, deer attack Uhhuh.
Keep an eye on it.
The theory is that itwas protecting a fawn.
Ah, it sensed that my oldest son, whowas in front of us all was a threat.
And because, you know, he was, you know,little or whatever, dude went after him.
But then my wife and I jumped inand it was very interesting in that

(01:16:48):
situation to see our reactions.
'cause as I think back on it.
We both did something completelydifferent, but it just kind of worked.
Like she went in full on,protect the kids mode.
I went in full on, I'm gonna killthis thing, and it just, it worked.
I don't know what would've happenedif it was, it had been a male deer.
I don't know what would'vehappened if it was just me and

(01:17:09):
the kids, or her and the kids.
I mean, thankfully, we don't have toknow, find that out in this situation.
It was very scary for one, if it wasjust you and the kids, I envisioned you
grabbing them, basically the scruffsof their necks and just running.
Yeah, yeah.
Put one under each arm andyour haul ass outta there.
I would like to think that too.

(01:17:29):
But I also think that I might've stilljust tried to go after the deer and
I would've yelled for the kids to goback to the house, but I still probably
would've done everything I could togo for the deer or put myself between
the, you know, the deer and the kids.
What's it like to punch a deer?
Um, well.
I've got a broken finger.
Oh no.

(01:17:49):
Which I did not feel at all.
Like I didn't realize itwas broken till afterwards.
Got all that adrenaline, literallytrying to wrestle, listening
to the ground to choke it.
I'm gonna choke it out, you know?
No, no Tapout this time, man.
That's your shift in hand too.
No cameras or video of this anywhere.
Neighbors.
Someone absolutely there.
There are eyewitnesses.

(01:18:10):
No, no cameras or anything.
Nobody got pictures.
It's circulating on America'sFunniest Home video.
So he's doing like he's doing this.
It's cat slaps.
Yeah.
And I am not a small man.
I'm larger than probably 90% ofthe, the world's male population.

(01:18:33):
So the fact that I was strugglingwith this, I mean, I can't
imagine if it was, I mean.
It's 150 pound deer, butit's like 150 pounds.
Solid Muscle.
Muscle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One track mind.
It's like no reasoning, just,
is that the sound it made?
Yeah.
It didn't make any sounds.

(01:18:53):
Is there frosting around its mouth too?
I mean, what's going on here?
We joke, like since we've moved down here.
We've had roaches, we've had bats,we've had mice, we've had chipmunks,
we've had deer now and we've had snakes.
So nice.
And I live in a suburban neighborhood,like 15 minutes outside of Richmond,

(01:19:14):
the more you know, no, it is a publicservice announcement for folks, right?
Because there are more deer nowbecause less people are hunting.
And I am not advocating foranything one way or the other,
but it is a concern for drivers.
Tanya's mentioned it before too,'cause she doesn't use the oxyo.
LED headlights.
See my shameless plug.
So, you know, spotting deer is thething that you gotta do because
there's more of them out therethan there ever has been before.

(01:19:36):
Dude, I am hell bent.
I'm gonna take up hunting.
I am gonna make it my personalmission to make all of the
white-tailed deer go extinct.
That's a tall order all in.
Meanwhile.
Back of the ranch.
I saw this one and it wasn't quiteFlorida man worthy, but I figured
Tanya, you'd appreciate this.

(01:19:58):
Headline Reads, woman doesn'twanna get taken advantage of at the
mechanic, so she puts on the disguise.
That's gotta be theworst fricking disguise.
You know, I thoughtthat at first and then.
As I look more at her.
But is it,
I mean, the TikTok videois the best though.
Oh, I didn't see the booty.

(01:20:19):
Shorts are a problem.
Like it kind of throws thedisguise off a little bit.
I just saw the still shot.
Oh yeah.
Go to the TikTok video below.
But this is where it all falls apartthe things people do for views.
Yeah, that's exactly it.
So from like the neck up, it's allDuke's a hazard, but the problem is
from the neck down, it's Daisy Duke.
So there's like, there'snothing left to the imagination.

(01:20:42):
It's just like, yeah,you're not fooling anybody.
Right.
You didn't go full Peter Sellers here.
Pink Panther style, full disguise.
You know, like, no,sorry, that was a fail.
Well, maybe she thoughtthere was a counter.
Yeah, so that's why thisdidn't make it to Florida, man.
This has definitely lowered myexpectations, lowered expectations.

(01:21:08):
And speaking of this next one, thiscursed road near North Dakota Oil Field
swallows up any truck that tries it.
And I'm like, okay, cursed.
Road cursed by the stupid peoplethat continue to try to drive on it.
Oh my God, that's the onlycursed part of this road.
There's a fucking hole in theroad and people drive into it.

(01:21:30):
It's a. This isn't a road, right?
Oh my God.
It's a landslide.
What?
And then they wonder whytheir built Ford tough.
Got stuck.
I apologize.
Actually, none of thesepictures the picked a Ford.
And who was driving that backhoe?
It's flipped over the backhoe.

(01:21:50):
Can't even make it onthis quote road end quote.
It's terrible, but it's hilarious.
I like this caravan that tried to do it.
Video.
Sh.
That truck's getting swallowed up.
I mean, it's underwateragain, how hard could it be?
Right?
And this is why I also have said before,reputable news coming from the drive.
This is the stuff thatthey're reporting on.

(01:22:11):
I was like, come on guys.
Like, whatever.
All right.
Well I guess it's time we go down south.
Talk about alligators and beer.

(01:22:32):
Well, we're going downsouth, but not the florid.
This time we're going toHouston's I six 10 Loop.
Oh, I know this road.
Oh boy.
This would've been fun to witness.
You really have to watch the video.
Oh, no.
So before you watch the video,this guy's sob breaks down.
Well, that's the problem right there.
This other person shows up and Iguess someone they know they couldn't

(01:22:53):
afford a tow truck, so they showup in their SUV to tow the sob.
Go ahead and start watching the video.
They attach the toe strapto the rear of the sob.
Are you serious?
Can you believe what the hell?

(01:23:14):
You almost have to ask, was this a stunt?
But I don't think, I thinkit's just dumb people.
Wow.
Holy shit.
And why don't you immediately stop whenyou realize how fast were you going?
Way too fast.
I mean, that SOB is whipping around.
So not only are they tryingto pull the car from the rear.

(01:23:35):
Obviously the tow hook is on a corner,so they've got the tow strap caddy corner
and then they're like hauling ass down six10, which is like a 4 95 but straighter.
Oh my god.
Poor car.
And the dude's in thesob, you can see the guy.
There's a guy in the driver's seat.
No.
Okay.
There's dude in the driver'sseat and the SOB is just whipping

(01:23:59):
fishtailing back and forth behind.
Wow.
And allegedly the lady drivingthe SUV was like laughing.
This is the principle of whenin doubt throttle out because
he obviously kept speeding up.
This is insane.
You can see the person in the cartrying to counter steer to Correct.
But it's actually, that's what I'm saying.
It's making it worse.

(01:24:20):
Oh my God.
Well, here's the thing.
Whatever way the car was going,they'd have to go the opposite way.
So they probably were justall over the place In general,
did these people get a ticket?
I hope so.
I mean, they could havecaused horrendous accident.
Oh my god, so, so bad.
I mean, poor car, that car is destroyed.
Whatever the problem was that itbroke down is like 10 times worse.

(01:24:43):
Now, the tow truck would've been afar less expensive issue to deal with
and the repercussions of that, but.
Anyway, couldn't findmuch in the Florida scene.
Not much going on across the countryeither, but this was the nugget that
I think makes up for the slow month.
And with that, Tanya, it's timefor our GTM Trackside Report,
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(01:25:04):
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(01:25:47):
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(01:29:07):
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We're gonna talk about Le Mans Classic.
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We got a lot of things coming up.
We might just have to do a specialepisode about Le Mans Classic.
Yeah, I think so.
That's gonna be a good one.
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Peace.
Hang on, hang on.
Sorry.
Stupid audio.
Go ahead.
Well, hello?
Hello?

(01:29:50):
Or shall I say Ben?
Nu.
Ben Nu.
Is he frozen?
Oh,
it didn't load.
That's the problem.
It doesn't load.
Oh.
But we have a guest in the housewith us tonight to celebrate.
Le Mansr, are you on mute?
Did you mute your mic?
Yeah, it's his new microphone.
There's a button on it.
Sometimes you can accidentallyhit it and it goes red.

(01:30:11):
Ah, there we go.
That's how he did his other episode.
I wonder why that wasred underneath there.
He wonders why stuff gets edited.
You skipped Florida, man.
Oh, we missed one.
Oh oh, look at this.
Look, we have the toilet.
The they, the, the pinnacle andthe pitiful Williams's talking.

(01:30:31):
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Did it?
Did it turn red?
Yeah, I did.
Yeah, I got it.
Well, here we are inthe drive through line.
Me and her.
Cars in front of us, cars in backof us all just waiting to order.
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(01:30:52):
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