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June 12, 2025 25 mins

Lisa and Josh explore their favorite comfort items, foods, smells, and sounds while debating what makes something truly comforting in this cozy episode.

• Weekly What-If: What if every comfort item became illegal – what would you smuggle?
• Physical comfort items vs food comfort items – Lisa loves her cozy nook, Josh can't live without lasagna
• The chemical reaction in our brains when we experience comfort
• Childhood nostalgia triggers like mom's creme de menthe pie and the smell of rain through an open window
• Best comfort foods: chicken noodle soup, grilled cheese, Chinese food, and tacos
• Comfort entertainment choices: Gilmore Girls and Netflix underdog stories
• This or That rapid-fire comfort preferences from book smells to toast popping sounds
• The camping comfort debate: roughing it vs "glamping" in cabins
• Future family vacation dreams in a holiday cabin

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everyone.
Welcome to Brother, sister,whatever where real talk meets
zero chill.
I'm Lisa.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Josh.
Today we are going to be doingthe best of the best.
Comfort Things edition.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Getting all cozy in our PJs or loungewear.
For this one, it's gonna begood.
Okay, so let's start with ourweekly.
What if josh?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
yes, so the weekly.
What if?
What if every comfort thing inyour life suddenly became
illegal?
Oh man what would you smuggle?
Would you join the undergroundweighted blanket resistance?
Which comfort item would breakyou if it disappeared?

(00:52):
Oh fuck, those are some greatweekly what-ifs.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, some good questions to make you think Okay
, to make you think okay.
So one of the things that Ilike comfy things that I love is
physical right, like it's thecomfy pants that when you sit

(01:18):
don't cut into your belly.
You know those kinds.
The blanket the pillowstrategically placed, like I
mentioned before.
The nook blanket the pillowstrategically placed, like I
mentioned before, the nook thespot on the sofa, the best spot
on the sofa.
So those things to me, if thatgot taken away, it'd be a
depressing fucking life.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
It'd be sad.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
It would be sad.
I would obviously be on thehunt for new comfort things.
It would have to be replaced,because one cannot live without
comfort things, don't you think?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, no, for sure, right, For sure.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
It's like think about , like those cold winter blah
days when you're like you have anice warm bowl of chicken soup,
warm, hot, whichever, or likethe hot chocolate with the
marshmallows, all those things.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, it's cozy.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
It's cozy yeah it's true.
Okay, what about you?
Well, first start by saying,like, what's your thing, what it
would be that you would begiving up if you lost it, if it
became illegal.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
If it became illegal, something that's comforting,
comfort of the comfort, for meLike food.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Okay, that's fine, you know.
So For me it's a thing, for youit's food.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Go for it.
For me, like, let's say like,even though I don't have it
often or anything, it's like,you know, if someone, if it
became illegal for me to havelasagna, like meat lasagna, you
know, like the old fashioned,like, oh, that would be, that
would be a tough one, that wouldbe tough eh, that would be a

(03:01):
tough one.
So you know there's somethingabout, like you know, I can
really stick to my diet and bereally good, but if I get sick I
want to have those comfortfoods, you know, and so I'd say
that that's probably my thing.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Okay, you know like yeah, so that would be something
you could smuggle.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, for sure, totally smuggle frozen lasagna
Right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Oh man, wow, it's interesting.
Eh, what brings us like?
What is this like thing that ittouches inside of us, thing

(03:48):
that it touches inside of uslike a food, a, a movie that you
watch over and over again, aspot on the sofa, whatever, like
what is it that just brings uslike this?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
I don't know it.
It has to be like that chemicalin our brain that just you know
and for everyone it's obviouslydifferent, but it's like you
know when you find that thing.
It's like different.
But it's like you know when youfind that thing.
It's like that like it justexplodes, you know, and you're
just like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, and you can and it sticks with you.
Like I've had things that I'vethat I found comforting, like
that I keep going back to all ofmy life Like it hasn't changed.
And then other things do likeI'll be like, oh okay, get rid
of that or whatever you know,like it hasn't changed.
And then other things do likeI'll be like, okay, get rid of
that or whatever.
You know, like it adapts withme over the years, but there are

(04:31):
a few things that just bring itback.
Do you have anything, anycomfort item that reminds you of
, like being a kid?
hmm, or like, or that brings youback to like childhood and like
gives you like the warm andfuzzies mom's creme de menthe
pie, oh my god, yes, that's truethat.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
That brings me joy, wow, comfort, when I think about
that cake.
That was the best cake ever,man.
I don't know if it's because ofthe alcohol that she would put
in it or or what, but that wasthat is.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
That is pretty, yeah, that is pretty special actually
.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I remember that too yeah, with the crushed oreo yeah
, crumbs and oh you know as thebase, you know, and when it's
hard, like that, it's so good,good, like the crust, like that,
oh God yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
All right, so that was pretty good weekly.
What if we got some, uh, someinteresting little answers there
?
What else, what, what, what?
I'm trying to think ofsomething from my childhood
music too, but um well, listen,music too, and I and I brush it
away, but it's actually prettypowerful that I used to listen

(05:55):
to as a teenager right that Iloved and I'll hear it on the
radio or it'll come up onSpotify and I'll know every
lyric.
You know what I mean.
And it just and then, but thefeeling that I get hearing it

(06:19):
and singing along with it, itjust, it's like I'm 15 again.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, absolutely.
It's like whenever I hearanything to do with snow, I
think back, you know for sure.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Okay, so I think we've established that we've got
quite a few different comfortitems or comfort like categories
.
Even so, food you know, moviessmells, oh smells hmm, oh, like.
What about?
Like when you, when you havelike a nice vanilla candle?

Speaker 2 (06:56):
you know that's pretty good.
Actually never thought of thatyou know what it is for me,
because it does bring comfort,yeah, um, but it's, it's weird
because it has to almost be in acertain sequence.
Oh, okay if I'm in my roomoffice on the computer okay and

(07:17):
the window is slightly crackedopen and it rains.
The smell of the rain, in thatexact sequence.
It triggers something.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Really yeah.
What does it trigger?

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Just this fond memory of not worrying about anything
and just playing my games when Iwas like a kid.
And yeah, it was a veryspecific sequence and so
whenever I smell that rain,believe it or not, in that
sequence I think about myself asa kid playing my game in my

(07:55):
room.
Wow, yeah, any smells thatbring back memories or anything
Shit.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Like yours is really like full of depth.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Isn't it?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
weird.
Nothing is coming to mind interms of like a smell triggering
like a memory, but smell isdefinitely triggers like emotion
for me.
You know, just like when Ismell like a vanilla candle I'll

(08:28):
get like like I don't know.
I don't know if I think it goesback to any specific memory,
but there are like activitiesthat I do that remind me of
being a kid or when I was a kid,so like remember we used to

(08:52):
watch Star Trek all the timewith dad.
Yes, remember we used to watchStar Trek all the time with Dad,
yes, so Star Trek has, like thespecial thing, special place in
my heart.
The Next Generation and the oldschool Star Trek With what's
his name, kirk Leonard Nimoy,and yeah.
So, yeah, that definitelyreminds me of I'm trying to

(09:19):
trying to get the kids into it.
They're not really vibing, butwhatever.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
anyway, yeah, isn't that funny how we're always
trying to make them like what weliked yeah they're my son's
into one piece, you know, andI'm trying to.
I'm like, um, I'm like, oh, ifyou like one piece, like get
into dragon ball, dragon ball z,you know, and he's like I don't
like it and I'm like oh, that'sso sad.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
That must have broke your heart, yeah I'll get over
it, oh shit.
Oh man, Okay, Josh.
So let's break it down evenmore.
Best comfort food.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Best comfort food?
Yep, I think it would be a tiefor Chinese and tacos.
Oh but what about?

Speaker 1 (10:14):
your lasagna.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, no, that's like .

Speaker 1 (10:16):
That's epic.
Okay, that's like top tier, andnow we're talking second tier.
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, okay.
Best comfort food for me?
Well, definitely chicken noodlesoup.
Love chicken noodle soup, butlike with grilled cheese, okay,
okay.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Best comfort movie or show?
Is there one specific whereyou're kind of like?
You know, it just gives you allthe little fuzzies.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I think there's one show that I watch not very often
, but only when I'm feeling likeI need it Gilmore Girls.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, there's something about it that just
picks you up.
You know Like you can't be sadwatching Gilmore Girls.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
So Okay, cool.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, what about you?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I am in love with almost all of the original
Netflix TV series that come out,even though they freaking stop
after one season.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, they keep cance them eh you know, like chaos.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
I absolutely I know.
For some it's probably verycheesy, for me it was absolutely
amazing, yeah.
And then like, for example, umdead boy detectives okay, yeah
like I, I absolutely I don'tknow if that was a netflix
original, but, like you know,that was, believe it or not, a
big comfort one for me.
I watched that on repeat thewhole series like six times.

(12:03):
I loved it.
I there's something about, forme, comfort-wise shows.
There's something aboutunderdog and becoming something
you know.
Mm-hmm.
Or everyone's against us and,like you know, you persevere.
Yeah, so for me like that's.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
That's a big.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, yeah, all right .

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
So we did smells, right.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, we did smells.
Ooh, fresh laundry is a goodone.
Play-doh who the fuck likesPlay-Doh?
Who likes the smell of Play-Doh?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Well, it brings back memories of childhood.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I guess, but that's not the point.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Like bookstores, Like it's funny, because bookstores
for example.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Oh well, like the smell of a book.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
It's funny because bookstores, for example, oh well
, like the smell of a book.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Oh shit, but I only ever did audiobooks and then
recently, through my littlefaith of what I'm doing, or
whatever you want to call it,it's weird.
It's like now I have to smellthe books.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
It's so funny, eh, no , no, no, don't look.
Don't give that.
Look, there's something aboutthe smell of a fucking book.
Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
This or that.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
This or that.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
All right.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Do you want to start?

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Sure Okay.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
A new book or an old book.
I'm going to say a new book.
So rain or wind.
Rain Um cold pizza or reheatedleftovers.
It would depend on theleftovers, but I'm still going
to go with leftovers.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Okay, oh, for the audience, we're, we're, we're
mishing and mashing comfortsmell and comfort food.
So that's why we're kind ofgoing back and forth a little
bit with smells but also food.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, and I have sounds and activity, so we're
just kind of meshing it all up.
Okay, so it's my turn now.
So let's do walking alone orsitting on a bench.
I'm going to oh, I like both.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Sitting on a bench.
I'm going to.
Ooh, I like both.
I think the old me walking, thenew me would be maybe sitting
on a bench.
Yeah, so I guess sitting on abench, okay, rice bowl or noodle

(14:37):
bowl.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Noodle bowl.
Noodle bowl, for sure.
Um okay, lo-fi beats or chillpiano.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Wait, sorry.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
So lo-fi beats.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Or chill piano.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Uh, lo-fi beats.
Yeah.
Um, okay, let's do-fi beats.
Yeah, okay, let's do a smellhere, okay so comfort smell
campfire or candle.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Ooh, campfire, Campfire's good yeah
no-transcript.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I guess I'll go with the cleaning.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Your own hoodie or your partner's hoodie?

Speaker 1 (15:27):
My own hoodie.
I've never been one to wearsomebody else's clothes like my
husband's clothes.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Just be all like Maybe that's weird with me.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
But if I want to do that, I'll just hug him
Microwave beeping or toastpopping.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Comfort-wise.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, it's a comfort sounds.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
I guess toast popping .

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Well, yeah, I would assume, because one of the
things that you mentioned in thelast episode about microwave
beeping- as I stop it justbefore.
You stop it just before, so Iwould assume that's not a
comfort sound for you.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
It's almost like a superstition.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
I still remember that I have to stop it.
What?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
I have to stop it.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
All right, let's do two more each.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
All right, let's do more comfort food here.
How about?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
grilled cheese or peanut butter and jelly, pb and
J actually.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, yeah, I'll do that more than grilled cheese.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Um, okay, someone flipping.
Okay, this is a comfort sound.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
So someone flipping book pages or someone typing
Like typing, like keyboard ortypewriter.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Ooh, it just says someone typing.
But let's be, let's be specificand say typewriter.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Typewriter.
I love that sound.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah.
And then the thing where itgoes and you have to push it
back, yeah't mom have one and weused to use it absolutely yeah,
I remember that.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, yeah, oh, my god, that's hilarious.
Um, okay, let's do anothercomfort smell here.
Um, okay, I got one here.
Rain on pavement or morningcoffee.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
I'm always going to pick morning coffee Fair.
Yeah, always going to do that,okay.
So this is a comfort activity.
Okay, crying in the car orsinging in the car.
Comfort-wise yeah isn't thatweird.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I don't know, I guess .

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Like it's alone, by the way.
Alone activities.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Alone activities, I guess crying.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
I've done both.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
I just don't see myself singing in the car.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
You've never sang in a car.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Not really, not really.
And if I was, it was probablyso intense I was probably crying
at the same time.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Well, that's what I meant when I said I've done both
.
I've cried while singing Jesus.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Jesus Christ.
See, what's bad about thispodcast is that people who know
us are going to know too muchmore about us in our real lives.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Oh, does that bother you?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Well, now I'm regretting, telling everyone
about it.
You know, now I have all thesepeople, so do you?

Speaker 1 (18:40):
want me to say another one Cut it out.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Bruh, they're going to be like oh Josh, I didn't
know that.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
You once cried in the car Good God oh boy, there's no
shame here.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
You can judge all you want, oh shit.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Is there a comfort thing that you would never do
again?
Hmm, is there a comfort thingthat you would?
Never do again Like somethingyou tried out that just was not
for you.
Listen if.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's the story of my life Fuck.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
If somebody out there thinks that camping is a
comfort thing, that would be my.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Like deal breaker kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Deal breaker.
Yeah, Like camping is notcomfort for me.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Like if they were like oh, I have to be with
someone who's like a camper.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Well, first of all, I don't need to worry about that.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Oh yeah, I know, but I'm just saying hypothetically.
Yeah, Like if somebody was likeI can't hang out with you
because you don't like to wouldhappen, but like that's a
something that like no I would.
I would never do again.
Why do you hate it so bad?

(19:51):
Like what?

Speaker 1 (19:51):
part of it when you have to wipe your own ass with a
fucking leaf in the dead of thecold rain and eat cold beans
out of a can you're like no I'mgood, I don't even rough it out
like that.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I mean, if I go camping I do like regular
camping, yeah, but that's whatI'm saying.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
The only experience I ever had camping was that kind
of fucking shit.
Yeah, I think it was notinviting, it was not comforting,
so it's stained camping for me.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Oh well, now I think you need to redeem yourself, you
and the family.
You need to go do it one moretime, but like normal camping.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, like normal camping.
I'm open for that.
But the second my husband putscanned beans in the car.
I'm like I'm out, why no?
If he brings canned beans withhim, that's it, forget it what's
wrong with canned beans?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
I just feel you mean like the brown beans?
The brown beans, yes, thecanned beans you know, like no
man oh gosh, yeah, the campingthat I went to.
You go, you know, you pay, yeah,and they, they tell you where
your lot is, you know.
And so you go where the lot isand like there's already kind of
like a pit, there's a sectionfor your car, you know, and then

(21:09):
you start building your tent,15, 20 feet away there's a
couple bathrooms, a littleshower, you know, and then, like
you can drive one of thoselittle scooters or you walk, I
walk, you know, but you know youcould go to the front or drive
your car to the front, getCampwood, you know, drive back
to your little lot, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
So it's like that's that is.
That is better than what I did,because I was in the middle of
nowhere, with, but with nobathrooms or any of that shit.
But even that doesn't soundappealing to me Really.
No, I don't want to sleep in atent.
If you get, you can sleep inthe tent.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
You'll sleep in the car and I'll sleep in the
fucking cabin.
The car.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Or the car.
But you can, but like you canhave a cabin and camp.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know what?
I actually talked about that tosomeone recently because they
said, oh, I love camping, yeah.
And recently, because they said, oh, I love camping, yeah, and
I was like, oh, yeah, I'm like,you know, I'm okay there, you
know, like especially in thewinter, and I'm like, oh, and I
was like you like camping in thewinter.
And they were like, well, yeah,and I'm fireplace, and I'm like
fireplace, I'm like oh, youmean like a cabin, and they're

(22:19):
like, yeah, and I'm like that'snot technically camping thank
you I think it's more glamping.
Did you hear that?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
But, but yeah, Like I mean, you do need a tent for
camping.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Oh wait, they said that, they said that, they said.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Glamping, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
That's like a higher version, it's like a frou.
But okay, so you're getting allthe benefits of being out in
the middle of nowhere, so tospeak.
You're not surrounded, butyou've got four walls.
Dare, I say, even Wi-Fi.
But even if you don't haveWi-Fi, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
That makes it actually even less glamping, but
still I think it would be cool,don't you think it would be
cool?
Get the whole Taylor well,taylor family like us.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Get the whole Taylor family like a cabin for a week.
Yes, In the winter.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yes, that would be awesome Close to Christmas.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, I've been wanting to do something like
that for a while, even if it'slike maybe the week like the
week after Christmas.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, like so, like that.
What is it like the week afterChristmas?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, like so, like that.
What is it?
December 26th?
26, 27 to like new year's yeahor something like that, do you?

Speaker 1 (23:29):
know how expensive those are, though.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, yeah, and you've got a book like a year in
advance.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
But we're going to have this podcast, we're going.
Exactly and if there's anylisteners out there that has a
sick Airbnb and wants to give usa discount, we will do a
podcast there and we will talkabout your cabin for at least a
few episodes and, trust me, youmight see that we only have six

(23:57):
views right now.
But let me tell you, we'regetting up there okay.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
We are getting up there.
So I just want to end theepisode with our very first fan
mail that came through this pastweek.
We don't have a name, we knowthey're local and they say and I
will show you, I'm not lying itsays amazing episodes and

(24:26):
topics.
Lisa and Josh, keep it up.
Thumbs up emoji.
I just want to say, whoever youare out there, this made my
week.
It was awesome feedback and itjust makes me even more pumped
to do more shows Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Thank you so much, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Thank you so much for your feedback.
Again, thanks for joining us,brother, sister, whatever where
real talk meets, zero chill.
And do not forget like,subscribe, listen, follow.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
And please go ahead and tell us what your favorite
comforts are, and we would loveto hear a little bit more of
those fans, because it pumps usup yeah, okay, it really gives
us inspiration.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Thanks so much, guys.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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