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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy Thursday
everyone.
I'm Lisa.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
And I'm Josh.
This is a brother, sister,whatever.
Two siblings, no chill and awhole lot of oversharing.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Today we are deep
diving into the all too
relatable topic of adulting.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
One word overrated.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Let's talk about why
no one prepared us for this mess
and if anyone actually has itall together.
But first it's time for ourweekly what if, where we take a
wild, unexpected question andlet our imaginations run free.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Here's this week's
question.
What if adults could just optout of one responsibility
forever?
Which one would you choose?
Let's see where this takes us.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Okay, there's many
things that I would like to opt
out of in adulthood, but I thinkthe biggest one for me would be
paying bills.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I mean, is that
really an adulting
responsibility?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Well, yeah, you don't
do that as kids.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Like kids, kids Like
to me.
I consider a 25-year-old a kid.
No, no, no, I do.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Is that 25-year-old
still living at home?
Some are, I guess, Well yes,some are, but in your head this
elusive 25-year-old kid.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I don't know.
I guess maybe even both sidesof it.
You know, I don't know.
Yeah, I guess you're right.
Yeah, I guess bills is a bigthing, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Any age.
Wouldn't you want to opt out ofpaying bills?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, yeah, of course
, basically to be rich.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Basically, to have
the money that you've earned.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
All to yourself,
without you know giving it to
the man.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well, you know Dubai,
you pay no taxes.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I know, I know, and
so everything is yours.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So for I guess it's
for the obvious reasons I get to
do what I want, keep what Iwant.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, I feel like
that frees up a lot of things.
Right, so not only do you havethat money, but that money.
Then that also brings freedomFreedom to travel.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So does this mean,
you're not working?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
No, you would still
work.
I'm cool with working.
I just don't want my money.
I want my money to be mine,like all mine, and still have
everything else too.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
What about you.
Oh man, I don't know, that'sreally tough.
I mean, obviously it's verytempting to just say the same
thing Endless money, or notpaying bills, either, or would
be good.
But I guess, if I had to sayone thing, that I would opt out
of adulting.
I just want to be by myself.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Really.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, you know I do
it for work, right?
I'm managing people's livespretty much from my profession.
I'm a mediator, I'm apsychologist, I'm answering
people's calls at 10 o'clock atnight and I'm fine with all that
.
It's my job, it's what I love,but it also leaves me kind of
tanked.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It depletes you.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, so to sit at a
table, it just doesn't interest
me.
I would never do this if youweren't my sister.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Really.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Like even this right
now?
Yeah, no, there's no way.
Way, I love it, I love whatwe're doing, I love all of this,
but to do it with someone likejust because no way does that
make sense.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yes, it's the
pretense of it all, really,
because there are moments, I'msure, like you said, like this
kind of a scenario, this vibe,you and I, you're, you're
enjoying it and you've come tothe table wanting it, as opposed
to certain social situationswhere it's being kind of almost
thrust upon you and you don'twant it and therefore the
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pretense that needs to followthat, in order to Wow, you just
enlightened me actually.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
You know what I think
it is what?
Wow, you just enlightened meactually.
You know what I think it iswhat?
I don't have anything in commonwith that person.
So for me to sit down and likehave a conversation, like I
don't know what to talk about, Iknow that might be very
small-minded like, because, sure, if I sat down with someone
that like had like one of thepassions I have shoot, I'm sure
we could really get into it yesbut, but it's always like the
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same.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
So it's mostly the
expectations of it.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, what am I going
to say?
Like, oh well, you know, Ilifted, you know, 225 today at
the gym.
It's hard for me to find arhythm with other people.
Maybe that's where my autismcomes from.
I'm just one of those lone wolftype of people.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, I could kind of
relate to that a little bit in
the sense of I have my fewlittle people that I like, I
enjoy their company, but to seekout new individuals and new
social settings and all that,that's kind of not really my
vibe either.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, I kind of get.
It has nothing to do withlikability.
That was a little deep for aweekly.
What if huh?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I know let's talk
about kind of like the illusion
that we were sold aboutadulthood, how we, as kids,
perceived adulthood.
What is the first thing thatcomes to your mind Like?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
put yourself back in
the mindset.
I can't wait to get out thereyou go right.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Can't wait to get out
, make up my own rules.
That was a big thing for me.
I remember feeling oh, I can'twait to get out so I don't have
to listen to anybody.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, we thought it
was going to be so greener on
the other side.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I think most kids go
through that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Now, of all those
things that we mentioned
perceiving adulthood to be, whatwas the biggest slap in the
face for you?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It's not as cheap as
I thought it was.
Yes, you know, it's not ascheap as I thought it was, and
when I break something itdoesn't just magically get fixed
.
Our life wasn't really like youknow.
Oh, you know, like the TV'sbroken, no problem, we're going
to buy a new one.
It wasn't like that, you know.
It's like you're going tosuffer now because you destroyed
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the TV.
Yes, you know, I think my kidshave it really good.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Sometimes I'll be
actioning things around the
house, cleaning up at the tableafter everybody's eaten, or and
it occurred to me like housecleaning up at the table after
everybody's eaten, or and itoccurred to me like wow, these
kids are gonna get a brutalawakening one day.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I know exactly what
you mean.
They make little memes andsnippets of this stuff all the
time all the time do you knowabout the magic coffee table?
No, you don't know about thecoffee table.
What's that?
We will post it in ourinstagram.
We'll find it and we'll reshareit okay, so that it's on our
Instagram.
I could picture that with someof the things that I take for
granted, that I can admit to,for example, body wash.
(06:31):
Body wash is a great example.
It's something I absolutelydon't think of.
I know I should and I noticedthat, oh my gosh, I think my
body wash is magic.
No matter how many times I useit, no matter how empty it
almost is, the next day there'sa full thing of body wash.
You know it's magic, so I getit.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Okay, what about
budgeting and money Getting the
things that you need?
You know jobs, money,responsibility that comes with
that.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think I perceived
it very differently in the sense
of budgeting.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
How did you perceive
it?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I mean, I perceived
it that, like you know, I work
and I have the money to pay foreverything and that's just, it's
that simple.
Back in the day, when we werekids, I think it was definitely
well more balanced.
It's like, okay, this is mywage.
And it's like, don't get mewrong, you could, you know,
overspend, of course, but youknow like I felt like, okay,
homes were 50k.
You know like homes were 50k.
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Milk was, you know, $1.12.
Yeah you know, yeah sure youmade $700 for the year or
something.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
You know what I mean
though.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And and and you know
you had to, you know, so you
know.
I think this day and age isvery different.
I think people like just belowus generation wise, but I find
that they're very lucky, becausethe social media boom, the
crypto boom these were allfacets that 20 year olds could
kind of get on.
These very young people withhouses the size of like a
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freaking city hall.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So you feel, then,
that this generation now has
more opportunities, differentopportunities than we did
growing up?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I think that's the
best term for it, because I have
zero complaints with everythingI'm doing right now the perfect
amount of luck, hard work.
I definitely feel like theyhave different opportunities and
even if we look at our children, it's going to be even
different opportunities.
As always, everything evolves.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You feel like the
opportunities were different.
I remember growing up highschool was really thinking about
the career that you wanted tohead towards.
It was really driving homeabout computers early to mid-90s
when I was in high school andnow it's more about social media
influencer.
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You, the individual, can driveyour own future and create your
own wealth and your own.
You don't have to depend on thecorporate life anymore and,
depending on what kind of personyou're talking to, you could go
back through the decades at allthe different opportunities
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that they had to kind of growand build wealth and say I would
have loved that or I could havedone good there, or I wish I
had this.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, and I think
it's becoming a lot more
accepted.
For example, if my kid came tome and he was like know, I want
to be a pro gamer, it isn't soinsane as it was if I said that
in my era.
It's like what?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
yeah, get a fucking
job yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You know so and you
know you look at.
You know this kid forget howold you were, like 13 years old
won first place in likefortnight and it was like
millions of dollars.
Players, you know they.
They get supported by theirparents but they go out to make,
you know, millions of dollars.
These Players, you know theyget supported by their parents
but they go out to make, youknow millions of dollars.
These guys are making tons ofmoney off of ads and everything
else.
So you know the opportunitiesare definitely different.
(10:08):
Yeah, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Now like what about
work-life balance?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
This is very new to
me.
I have only started now to havea balance.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Is it something that
you've kind of always been
working on, or is it somethingthat you're just becoming aware
of?
Really?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I think it's a little
bit of everything.
As an entrepreneur, you can'thave a work-life balance.
At the beginning it's just notpossible.
You are not going to havefriends, your relationships are
going to suck because there's notime for anything.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I'm just going to
kind of rewind a little bit.
Do you think that maybe that iswhy you do not engage, or like
to engage, in social stuff,because you haven't really been
in it?
Yeah, it's very possible For awhile because you've kind of not
allowed it, because you've beenbuilding up your business.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Very possible.
I mean, when you're doing 16hours a day, seven days a week
for at least 10 years, there isno time for anything else and
that's what it takes.
You know you have to beabsolutely obsessed versus now,
because the reputation is there,because all of those things are
there, it's like I can finallycome down a bit.
I get to do probably half theamount of work with, you know, a
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pay that would be 40 hours aweek or more.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So working 20,
getting paid for 40 kind of
thing, kind of.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, and that only
comes with time.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Clientele.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Clientele reputation,
word of mouth, all of that For
me, work-life balance it didn'texist.
Only now do I have that I'mdoing all the adulting things
that I can do, so and I'm proud.
I'm happy about that.
Sometimes I take it for granted.
There's been a few times whereI almost gave up, even this far
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into my business, where I said,you know, I'm going to look for
another job and you know, I'mthrowing away the opportunity of
being able to do 10 hours aweek and get paid for 40 and
being able to do 10 hours andsee my kids and do all the
things with it.
I think that you know I'mwinning, you know, but I'm
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happier, you know.
You know how they say moneydoesn't buy happiness.
It's a double-edged sword in myopinion, but I think I truly
know what that means.
It's about being financiallystable-ish but also having an
incredible free life.
I'm not a guru here, but Ithink it's only achievable if
you have your own business.
I don't think that's achievableif you're working for someone
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else.
I think that would be verydifficult.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
For me, work-life
balance is really important.
I've always worked for someone.
I'm not an entrepreneur, so thejobs that I've had over the
years are kind of the nine tofive job.
I have worked a few in the pastwhere it's required to be on
call 24-7.
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You have to be there whenyou're needed.
The pay never equals the timeand effort put in, but those
were all learning experiencesand learning curves that I think
everybody should go through atleast once in life to figure out
what the hell you want.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
But at the end of the
day I personally enjoy a system
to my day.
I go to work, I do my thing, Iwork hard to get the job done
and then I come home and I'veforgotten about said job.
For the most part there's those.
You have those days.
You know, you know you're withthe kids, you're doing things.
Obviously there's a lot ofadulting in there laundry,
lunches, cleaning.
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I really enjoy that process.
I have thought over the yearsof what it would be like to be
my own boss.
I've thought of plenty of ideas,of things that I would love to
do and, who knows, maybe one dayI will.
But where I'm at in my liferight now, I'm happy, I'm good,
I feel like my work life balanceis probably as good as it's
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going to get.
I've worked hard at making surethat I have that.
Well, stability too, yeah,there's something to be said
about stability.
You know, Of course.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, Of course I
mean.
This is why there's so manymore employees than there are
entrepreneurs.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Well, I would assume
everybody would be owning their
own business and nobody would belooking for them.
I really do think that you haveto have certain qualities to be
successful entrepreneur.
You have to have the great idea.
That's the first thing.
But then there's the patience,the resilience, the tenacity.
Keep grinding, keep going, likehaving that vision, and never
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wavering.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
You almost have to be
a little crazy.
No, it's true, you almost haveto be a little crazy, because
you have to love it so much thatanyone else, including family,
would think you're crazy.
You're crazy to keep doing this, you know so.
You have to be so crazy thateven when it hurts, you don't
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want to stop.
If you look at all the bigentrepreneurs, it's always the
same common attitude.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Well, adulting might
feel overrated, maybe even a
little bit like a scam, buthere's the truth.
It's okay to not haveeverything figured out.
We're all just learning as wego, embrace the mess, take it
one day at a time and remembernone of us have it all together.
So let's laugh through thechaos and keep supporting each
(15:23):
other as we navigate thisadulting thing together.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Share your most
relatable adulting fail with us
on social media.
We would love to know what yourlittle thoughts are on this.
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See you all next week.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Bye.