August 21, 2025 • 25 mins
We made it. 24 episodes later, Season One is officially a wrap.
What started with Lisa’s fear of recording and Josh’s “let’s just wing it” energy has grown into something real: a structured (but still chaotic) sibling podcast built on honesty, growth, and way too many personal confessions.
In our Season 1 finale, we reflect on:
→ The evolution of our dynamic (spoiler: we barely disagreed)
→ Josh’s mic-drop moment about seeking peace over happiness
→ Lisa’s emotional off-mic breakdown that almost made it into the episode
→ Our first-ever “BSW Chaos Awards” 🎉
→ Why embracing imperfection was the best decision we made
Biggest surprise? This whole thing made us closer. And somehow, a little wiser.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
all right, so welcome to brother, sister, whatever,
I'm lisa I'm josh um, this is it, guys.
This is the season finale,episode 24.
We made it to 24 episodes.
Can Can you believe it?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
That's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I know right.
So what did we learn, josh?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
What did we learn?
We learned that we could besomewhat entertaining.
Nothing, everything.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I guess so right, well, let's get into it.
Okay, josh.
(01:01):
So what's?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
something that you've .
What have I learned?
Um, I I learned just howpassionate you are about doing
this podcast.
Oh, it's, uh, it's been prettyincredible seeing you all fired
up but do you remember how westarted, how I started?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, it wasn't passionate, well, passionate but
it was more, I think fear.
Yeah, yeah, I wasn't passionate, well passionate, but it was
more.
I think fear was the dominant.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, but, but I mean that's usually um, uh, a piece
of it.
I mean that that's, I think,what stops people from doing it
Right.
So, um, whether it's a podcastor a new job or you know
whatever in life, I think fearis what stops people.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
That's true.
I have to say, though, that Ithink the reason that I asked
you to do this with me wasbecause I knew that you would
push me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I'm a pusher.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You know, I think thank you, yeah, Well it's true.
I think you know everyone needsa push, think, uh, you know
everyone needs a push, andespecially when it's coming from
someone else meaning like Ifeel like you know, there's only
so much pushing we do withourselves compared to if someone
(02:36):
, if we have that you know,cheerleader that person kind of
being like wow, you're like,you're so good at this or you
can do this, it kind of pumpsyou up.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
That's true, that's true, but you are definitely
somebody that doesn't needdoesn't at least from my
perspective, doesn't need theoutside push Like.
You have pretty good motivatoron your own.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, but it took a long time.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, I'm sure it did .
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But I appreciate that .
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
No, I think you're right in many ways.
I think the kind of push I need, I've always wanted is the
organized push.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Oh, and that's where I come in, exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Organized.
You know structure I'm, youknow passion takes over what I
love, and there I don't need apush for that.
So but I've been, I've beenworking at it, I've been
learning to, and I'm noticinghow much more I enjoy my passion
when things are more structuredso yeah, it's true, you feel,
(03:44):
um, there's maybe a sense ofcontrol a little bit yeah, more
of a sense of control like andand I I think I mentioned, I
must have mentioned in one ofthe podcasts like, as I get
older, there's something likeswitching like before, like I
could like not that I'm like aslob, but like I could have like
shit everywhere and not really,like, you know, like whatever.
(04:07):
Now it's like like it's reallybad, you know, like I can't.
So it's like that's kind ofcoincided now with even work
structure where it's like oh,you know, it's like too messy,
like I can't, I can't do this.
Yeah, like it's got to beorganized.
So it's like oh, you know, it'slike too messy, like I can't, I
can't do this, yeah, like it'sgot to be organized, so it's
(04:29):
weird.
I think it has something to do,without going too deep.
I think it has something to dowith, like, inner peace.
And it's the inner peace it'sever since I realized that I'm
not looking for happiness, youknow, I'm looking for peace and
(04:52):
and and, because someone couldsay something which is perfectly
fine, but someone could saylike oh, you know, I keep my
house clean or I keep mybusiness structured, because
that makes me happy, but, like Idon't know, I don't think it's
happiness.
I think it's.
It's it makes you feel at peace, because happiness that means
(05:15):
at some point you're sad, like Imean it's.
It goes both ways right.
So so and you're not alwayshappy.
You can't tell me, because yourhouse is clean, you'll always
be happy, like right?
So you know, I don't know.
So I, I, I think we, at leastin my eyes, I feel like we
(05:35):
misword happiness and and peace.
And so now I tell this toeveryone I meet now, everyone I
talk to or whatever, and they'relike oh, you know what are you
doing to, you know what makesyou happy, or you know, and I go
, I'm not looking for anythinglike that.
You know, yes, there's timeswhere I'm happy, there's times
(05:57):
where I'm sad, you know, butthat's always going to fluctuate
.
And it's this thing wherepeople feel like they have to
always look for the happinessand you're just forever
disappointed Because, yes, youwill be happy A hundred percent,
but it will always switch atsome point, for whatever reason.
(06:18):
So it's like it's aboutfocusing on what just keeps you,
you know, level.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Grounded Grounded.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
No, yeah, and it's about focusing on what just
keeps you you know level.
Grounded, grounded, yeah,interesting, no, yeah, well,
yeah, what you say certainlykind of has made me rethink a
little bit, because, yeah,you're right, we always say like
, if you know and we've talkedabout this again before If I get
this or if I have that, or ifI'm, I, I'm at this point in my
life, or whatever I will feelhappy or I will feel fulfilled,
(06:51):
or I will whatever um, if wecould re-record episode one now,
what would we change?
Oh my gosh, I'd have structure,because we went into that
episode just kind of like let'swing it, let's just talk about
ourselves.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
That's Josh style.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, that's Josh style.
But again, you know what Ithink I've said this a couple of
times over the season and I'mgoing to stick to it Like I
don't regret what we did.
If I knew what I know now Iwould have.
I would have.
It would be different.
Well, that's but the wholepoint of me knowing.
(07:33):
What I know now is based on theroad that we've gone through.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
That's it, so you can't connect the dots.
Looking forward.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Exactly, you can only connect them.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
looking back Exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So what would I change about it?
You know what?
Nothing, and I actually thinkthat all of the episodes, in
their own way, reflect pieces ofus, and I'm really happy with
that.
I'm not disappointed, or.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Like the Lisa structure?
No, with that I'm notdisappointed.
Or like the lisa structure?
No, if you go, if you watch ourepisodes, guys, okay, and if
you go to episode one and thenyou just watch a snippet of each
video, you'll see how we wentfrom nothing in our hands to,
you know, just sitting doingwhatever, to having 5 000 sheets
(08:27):
and well listen cards andlisten josh but I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I love it because it's somebody's gotta do it you
know, you bring?
You bring the wisdom and thecharm and the wisdom well, well,
you know, oh shit.
You have some nuggets everyonce in a while, okay, and I
bring the structure.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Fair, fair.
I'll take wisdom.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Maybe, dare I say, a little creativity.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Who me, no me, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
You creativity for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Me not so much.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Okay.
So, josh, what part of thisshow actually changed you Like
of doing this show?
Actually changed you Like ofdoing this show together?
Anything, it could be small,big, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, I think I like the ritual of it, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Okay, so the structure of it.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Well, the ritual of it, like coming here seeing you,
you know, catching up to kindof have that ritual.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, that ritual you know.
So that's definitely one thing.
I think that has made this youknow.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
It's nice to be closer.
We didn't talk as often as wedo now, so that's kind of nice.
That's something that's changedthat I really love.
For sure what's changed me andit's so silly is my voice, the
(09:53):
way that I talk.
Not my voice, but like the waythat I talk, I've gone from
listening like the first coupleof episodes, like barely being
able to listen to myself, andthen now it's like, oh, okay, so
I feel like more, maybe,comfortable in my own skin.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, does that make sense?
Of course that makes a lot ofsense.
That's changed, that's greatFor sure.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, you see, you know what it is with me?
That I find that like I have athought, but the words in my
brain are so fast that, like,coming out, I like, stumble over
my words and I'm like, and thenlike my thought.
(10:37):
Yeah, see, just did it.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Like that.
That's okay.
We are who we are right, rightthat's it.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
What was your biggest ?
What are we even doing momentthis season?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
it was probably um and I guess anybody that's been
with us from the from thebeginning we'll know that we
started with weekly our sixfollowers our six followers.
Uh, we went from weeklyepisodes to every two weeks and
just before we made thattransition, that that moment of
(11:17):
this is like too much.
I need to like like it was allencompassing in my life.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
For sure, and so now that we're doing it every two
weeks, I feel like much morecalmer, at peace and I'm
enjoying the process more, whichis the whole point of us doing
this.
Like I mean, we had severaldifferent reasons for starting,
and not all of them match eachother Right, but one of the ones
(11:47):
that was big for me was justbeing able to put myself out
there in a way that I had neverdone before and to be creative,
and it was for fun.
It's in, it's supposed to beenjoyable, and when it stops
being enjoyable, something'samiss, and so it was that little
(12:10):
turning point for me thisseason.
So what are we doing?
I had to remind myself, youknow, like why am I doing this
again?
Oh right, for the six viewersand for creativity.
But, what about?
What about you?
Is there anything that any timethat you were like what are we
(12:32):
doing?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
No no no, because I like to talk.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
So Well, hey, there you go.
Well, hey, there you go.
Yeah, okay, so how about we dosome of this or that?
Let's do it, but we're gonna dolike a little bit different
vibe.
We're actually gonna focus onlike our actual podcast okay
(13:01):
okay, so I'll start us off.
Okay, so this or that fandomepisode or pet peeves episode?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
pet, peeves, hobbies or personality types.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You know what Personality types was really fun
.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Both were good, but personality types was fun, was
really fun.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Both were good, but personality types was fun.
I feel like we learned a lotabout each other.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Now, if someone wants to talk to me, I need to know
their personality trait, right?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Because I think I got it wrong in that episode.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
You think you got it wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I think I got it wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Like what do you mean ?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Because I went into it thinking, I went into that
specific episode having an ideaof what introvert, extrovert,
ambivert, omnivert was.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And really, what it is acrossthe board is how something makes
you feel.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
It's not the activity .
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, it's how that activity makes you feel it's not
the activity.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's how that activity makes you feel.
So it could be a thousanddifferent activities.
The activity doesn't make youthat personality type.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
It's the feeling that it gives you.
Yeah, yeah, I think what I, andthat's where I got it wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, I think what I got wrong is that it's not like
you're either that or that, likeyou're actually both.
It's just the percentage ofthat scale.
So it's like yes, I'mintroverted, but I have
(14:42):
extroverted moments.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
But that's exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, I know.
So that's what I mean.
So it's like we say we'reintroverted, but that doesn't
mean that we don't haveextroverted moments.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Like it doesn't you know so like on my, thing, I
think.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I was so, then that would make you an ambivert.
I mean theoretically so, likeon my thing, I think I was so,
then that would make you anambivert, if you find.
I mean theoretically, if youfind peace in activities that
are considered extroverted andalso introverted.
That's an ambivert.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yes, but like, for example, when we did the
personality test and it saysthat I'm introverted.
It just means that I get moreof my peace from that than the
others.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
But it doesn't mean that you're only introverted.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
The ratio is different.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And because that ratio goes by percentage.
So I think I'm 60% introverted,so there's still 40% where I'm
extroverted.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I don't remember what my percentage was.
Well, you should double check.
Now I need to go and do a check, it's still automatically saved
.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You just have to go back to the site and it'll check
, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
No, I agree, but that's what I figured out from
doing that.
I think you are both, though Iagree.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Officially both if you are at 50%.
Do you know what I mean, though, because if you're at 50%, I
agree right so it's like you get, you get both.
(16:21):
You, you get you know, versusme at 60 percent.
Like, yes, I can handleextroverted scenarios and I
might find some peace in some ofit, like maybe a gathering and
we're talking about dogs orwhatever, but then in other
contexts you wouldn't we're in aclub, the music is, you know,
(16:42):
blasting and I'm just like oh mygod yeah right yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
So even the thought of doing something like that
gives you dread.
Yeah, yeah, no, okay, yeah, sowe're.
We're saying it two differentways, but we're in agreement
pretty much the same yeahexactly.
I don't care what people think,or I'll do that later.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Which one are you most likely to still think?
I think I've been gettingbetter with the I'll do that
later one.
It's still in there, though,you know, but I think I'm going
to go with the other one.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I don't care what people think.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, less and less as time goes on.
Yeah, you know.
So, like before, I think Iremember in the episode I said
like we say that, but we don'tmean it yeah you know, I think I
remember saying that, like wesay, we don't care what other
people think I'm independent,you know I'm a strong person,
don't care what other peoplethink I'm independent, you know
(17:43):
I'm a strong person, don't care,you know.
But really like we do, you know, but I think I'm caring less.
You know, I really think I am.
I used to feel like I don'tknow, like I had to be so flashy
and I had to, like, prove somuch, you know, and I think
(18:05):
again it comes back down to likethat peace.
You know, like now, like Idon't know, I don't really care.
I care more about what my kidsthink of me than I care about
what anyone else thinks of me.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Right.
So summer then versus now, orgreat outdoors I think the great
outdoors.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That was pretty fun yeah that was a fun one, the
campaign and milking a cow oh,jesus oh, I love that one.
That was really funny.
Uh, okay, so let's do a littlemini segment called the chaos
awards okay it's a one-time only, guys, or?
(18:51):
Or maybe we'll save it for,like, all season finales or
something.
So the chaos awards.
So if you were to vote on themost unhinged episode, the
episode that kind of went offthe rails unexpectedly, anything
come up.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
No, not really.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You.
I mean, I think we're prettytame, yes, maybe in season two
we We'll go a little nutso balls.
You know, because we're like,you know zero chill, Brother,
sister, you know, but like thenwe're like.
So our personality traits areyou know, so so are you saying
(19:39):
that the tagline doesn't fit thevibe?
I'm saying that our podcastsounds more controversial than
it is Than it is, so maybe weshould fix that.
But you want to know what Ithink.
What I think that you were notexpecting us to be so cohesive
(20:02):
with our conversations.
I think you were expecting tobe polar opposites in a lot of
the comments and things that wedid, and what you learned
including myself, is that we'remuch more alike than we think.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
That's what I think happened.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I thought we would have been like I would have had
at least one episode where I'dbe like what the fuck are you
talking about?
Kind of shit, you know, and ithasn't happened yet.
Yeah, in 24 episodes.
So I don't know.
I do think I don't want to sayit's the most unhinged episode,
but I think at least one one ofus, every episode goes off on a
(20:43):
little bit of a tangent.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Well, yeah, for sure, in some respect, I think it's
usually me.
Oh shit, what about our biggestoff-mic meltdown?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Our biggest off-mic meltdown.
Oh yes, when I cried and Iremember it was, it was tech, we
were technically recording andI started you were being all
like fucking heartfelt and shittalking about jet.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
And I started crying and I was like this is getting
cut because I can't have.
I kept crying for sixsubscribers.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
This is not what they signed up for.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Blubbering in the corner.
Yeah, I was just having amoment.
It was just the most heartfeltthing and it got to me.
I should have kept that in.
Maybe I'll just I'll find thefootage and just put it as a
short and be like Lisa cryingLOL.
Don't do anything you don'twant to do.
(21:46):
Well, I'm getting more and moreum, okay, with like not
everything has to be fuckingperfect.
I don't have to be just so.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
It's okay, it's okay.
I think that's also a reallybig lesson that I've learned,
(22:11):
because I do most of the editingright you do all the editing.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I see the.
I really like You're probablyseeing the evolution.
Yes're probably seeing theevolution.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yes, I'm seeing the evolution yeah.
You know, yeah.
Most surprising insight, andyou can't use the personality
traits that we just brought upbefore.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Most surprising insight yeah most surprising
insight.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, um, now it could be about the podcast in
general, or it could be about aspecific episode subject.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I think I was very impressed and surprised with
your um, like the way you think,when it comes to the parenting
with gray and oh.
Parenting.
I remember talking.
I remember us saying you know,talking about that, I was like
oh shit.
I was like, wow, okay, I'mimpressed.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Specifically the none of your business comment.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, that too, you know.
All of that you know.
I thought and, yeah, you know,and just like your thought
process on like the sleepoversand stuff like that, you know.
So for me I feel like that wasquite the insight, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I love the memories that we talk about Childhood
things Not even necessarilychildhood things, even in
adulthood maybe little thingsthat I didn't know about you.
You know what I mean.
(23:50):
I feel like, uh, over theseason there's been a
significant amount of littlethings that I'm like, really I
didn't know that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
You know, yeah, same for sure.
Yeah, those are fun, that isfun.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Um, now what?
What do you want to see inseason two?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
just more of what we're doing yeah there isn't
anything that like pops into myhead.
I think it would be super coolif maybe we have an episode
where we have a third.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Like a guest star.
Yeah, yeah, that'd be fun.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, things to think about.
So, everybody, this is it.
This is the wrap of season one,final episode.
We are really looking forwardto season two, which is coming
in a couple of weeks, so staytuned for that.
New segments, Slightly new lookyeah, just lots of fun stuff
(24:53):
coming.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Please, if there's anything you would like to see
in season 2, why don't you dropus a comment?
You could also send us fan mail, our social media accounts
brother, sister, whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yep, instagram, facebook, youtube.
So this has been Brother,sister, whatever season, one in
the bag, real talk, zero chill.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I'm Josh.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I'm Lisa, and we'll see you soon.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Bye.
all right, so welcome to brother, sister, whatever,
I'm lisa I'm josh um, this is it, guys.
This is the season finale,episode 24.
We made it to 24 episodes.
Can Can you believe it?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
That's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I know right.
So what did we learn, josh?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
What did we learn?
We learned that we could besomewhat entertaining.
Nothing, everything.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I guess so right, well, let's get into it.
Okay, josh.
(01:01):
So what's?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
something that you've .
What have I learned?
Um, I I learned just howpassionate you are about doing
this podcast.
Oh, it's, uh, it's been prettyincredible seeing you all fired
up but do you remember how westarted, how I started?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, it wasn't passionate, well, passionate but
it was more, I think fear.
Yeah, yeah, I wasn't passionate, well passionate, but it was
more.
I think fear was the dominant.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, but, but I mean that's usually um, uh, a piece
of it.
I mean that that's, I think,what stops people from doing it
Right.
So, um, whether it's a podcastor a new job or you know
whatever in life, I think fearis what stops people.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
That's true.
I have to say, though, that Ithink the reason that I asked
you to do this with me wasbecause I knew that you would
push me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I'm a pusher.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You know, I think thank you, yeah, Well it's true.
I think you know everyone needsa push, think, uh, you know
everyone needs a push, andespecially when it's coming from
someone else meaning like Ifeel like you know, there's only
so much pushing we do withourselves compared to if someone
(02:36):
, if we have that you know,cheerleader that person kind of
being like wow, you're like,you're so good at this or you
can do this, it kind of pumpsyou up.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
That's true, that's true, but you are definitely
somebody that doesn't needdoesn't at least from my
perspective, doesn't need theoutside push Like.
You have pretty good motivatoron your own.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, but it took a long time.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, I'm sure it did .
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But I appreciate that .
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
No, I think you're right in many ways.
I think the kind of push I need, I've always wanted is the
organized push.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Oh, and that's where I come in, exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Organized.
You know structure I'm, youknow passion takes over what I
love, and there I don't need apush for that.
So but I've been, I've beenworking at it, I've been
learning to, and I'm noticinghow much more I enjoy my passion
when things are more structuredso yeah, it's true, you feel,
(03:44):
um, there's maybe a sense ofcontrol a little bit yeah, more
of a sense of control like andand I I think I mentioned, I
must have mentioned in one ofthe podcasts like, as I get
older, there's something likeswitching like before, like I
could like not that I'm like aslob, but like I could have like
shit everywhere and not really,like, you know, like whatever.
(04:07):
Now it's like like it's reallybad, you know, like I can't.
So it's like that's kind ofcoincided now with even work
structure where it's like oh,you know, it's like too messy,
like I can't, I can't do this.
Yeah, like it's got to beorganized.
So it's like oh, you know, it'slike too messy, like I can't, I
can't do this, yeah, like it'sgot to be organized, so it's
(04:29):
weird.
I think it has something to do,without going too deep.
I think it has something to dowith, like, inner peace.
And it's the inner peace it'sever since I realized that I'm
not looking for happiness, youknow, I'm looking for peace and
(04:52):
and and, because someone couldsay something which is perfectly
fine, but someone could saylike oh, you know, I keep my
house clean or I keep mybusiness structured, because
that makes me happy, but, like Idon't know, I don't think it's
happiness.
I think it's.
It's it makes you feel at peace, because happiness that means
(05:15):
at some point you're sad, like Imean it's.
It goes both ways right.
So so and you're not alwayshappy.
You can't tell me, because yourhouse is clean, you'll always
be happy, like right?
So you know, I don't know.
So I, I, I think we, at leastin my eyes, I feel like we
(05:35):
misword happiness and and peace.
And so now I tell this toeveryone I meet now, everyone I
talk to or whatever, and they'relike oh, you know what are you
doing to, you know what makesyou happy, or you know, and I go
, I'm not looking for anythinglike that.
You know, yes, there's timeswhere I'm happy, there's times
(05:57):
where I'm sad, you know, butthat's always going to fluctuate
.
And it's this thing wherepeople feel like they have to
always look for the happinessand you're just forever
disappointed Because, yes, youwill be happy A hundred percent,
but it will always switch atsome point, for whatever reason.
(06:18):
So it's like it's aboutfocusing on what just keeps you,
you know, level.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Grounded Grounded.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
No, yeah, and it's about focusing on what just
keeps you you know level.
Grounded, grounded, yeah,interesting, no, yeah, well,
yeah, what you say certainlykind of has made me rethink a
little bit, because, yeah,you're right, we always say like
, if you know and we've talkedabout this again before If I get
this or if I have that, or ifI'm, I, I'm at this point in my
life, or whatever I will feelhappy or I will feel fulfilled,
(06:51):
or I will whatever um, if wecould re-record episode one now,
what would we change?
Oh my gosh, I'd have structure,because we went into that
episode just kind of like let'swing it, let's just talk about
ourselves.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
That's Josh style.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, that's Josh style.
But again, you know what Ithink I've said this a couple of
times over the season and I'mgoing to stick to it Like I
don't regret what we did.
If I knew what I know now Iwould have.
I would have.
It would be different.
Well, that's but the wholepoint of me knowing.
(07:33):
What I know now is based on theroad that we've gone through.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
That's it, so you can't connect the dots.
Looking forward.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Exactly, you can only connect them.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
looking back Exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So what would I change about it?
You know what?
Nothing, and I actually thinkthat all of the episodes, in
their own way, reflect pieces ofus, and I'm really happy with
that.
I'm not disappointed, or.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Like the Lisa structure?
No, with that I'm notdisappointed.
Or like the lisa structure?
No, if you go, if you watch ourepisodes, guys, okay, and if
you go to episode one and thenyou just watch a snippet of each
video, you'll see how we wentfrom nothing in our hands to,
you know, just sitting doingwhatever, to having 5 000 sheets
(08:27):
and well listen cards andlisten josh but I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I love it because it's somebody's gotta do it you
know, you bring?
You bring the wisdom and thecharm and the wisdom well, well,
you know, oh shit.
You have some nuggets everyonce in a while, okay, and I
bring the structure.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Fair, fair.
I'll take wisdom.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Maybe, dare I say, a little creativity.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Who me, no me, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
You creativity for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Me not so much.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Okay.
So, josh, what part of thisshow actually changed you Like
of doing this show?
Actually changed you Like ofdoing this show together?
Anything, it could be small,big, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, I think I like the ritual of it, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Okay, so the structure of it.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Well, the ritual of it, like coming here seeing you,
you know, catching up to kindof have that ritual.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, that ritual you know.
So that's definitely one thing.
I think that has made this youknow.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
It's nice to be closer.
We didn't talk as often as wedo now, so that's kind of nice.
That's something that's changedthat I really love.
For sure what's changed me andit's so silly is my voice, the
(09:53):
way that I talk.
Not my voice, but like the waythat I talk, I've gone from
listening like the first coupleof episodes, like barely being
able to listen to myself, andthen now it's like, oh, okay, so
I feel like more, maybe,comfortable in my own skin.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, does that make sense?
Of course that makes a lot ofsense.
That's changed, that's greatFor sure.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, you see, you know what it is with me?
That I find that like I have athought, but the words in my
brain are so fast that, like,coming out, I like, stumble over
my words and I'm like, and thenlike my thought.
(10:37):
Yeah, see, just did it.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Like that.
That's okay.
We are who we are right, rightthat's it.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
What was your biggest ?
What are we even doing momentthis season?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
it was probably um and I guess anybody that's been
with us from the from thebeginning we'll know that we
started with weekly our sixfollowers our six followers.
Uh, we went from weeklyepisodes to every two weeks and
just before we made thattransition, that that moment of
(11:17):
this is like too much.
I need to like like it was allencompassing in my life.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
For sure, and so now that we're doing it every two
weeks, I feel like much morecalmer, at peace and I'm
enjoying the process more, whichis the whole point of us doing
this.
Like I mean, we had severaldifferent reasons for starting,
and not all of them match eachother Right, but one of the ones
(11:47):
that was big for me was justbeing able to put myself out
there in a way that I had neverdone before and to be creative,
and it was for fun.
It's in, it's supposed to beenjoyable, and when it stops
being enjoyable, something'samiss, and so it was that little
(12:10):
turning point for me thisseason.
So what are we doing?
I had to remind myself, youknow, like why am I doing this
again?
Oh right, for the six viewersand for creativity.
But, what about?
What about you?
Is there anything that any timethat you were like what are we
(12:32):
doing?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
No no no, because I like to talk.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
So Well, hey, there you go.
Well, hey, there you go.
Yeah, okay, so how about we dosome of this or that?
Let's do it, but we're gonna dolike a little bit different
vibe.
We're actually gonna focus onlike our actual podcast okay
(13:01):
okay, so I'll start us off.
Okay, so this or that fandomepisode or pet peeves episode?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
pet, peeves, hobbies or personality types.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You know what Personality types was really fun
.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Both were good, but personality types was fun, was
really fun.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Both were good, but personality types was fun.
I feel like we learned a lotabout each other.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Now, if someone wants to talk to me, I need to know
their personality trait, right?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Because I think I got it wrong in that episode.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
You think you got it wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I think I got it wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Like what do you mean ?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Because I went into it thinking, I went into that
specific episode having an ideaof what introvert, extrovert,
ambivert, omnivert was.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And really, what it is acrossthe board is how something makes
you feel.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
It's not the activity .
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, it's how that activity makes you feel it's not
the activity.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's how that activity makes you feel.
So it could be a thousanddifferent activities.
The activity doesn't make youthat personality type.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
It's the feeling that it gives you.
Yeah, yeah, I think what I, andthat's where I got it wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, I think what I got wrong is that it's not like
you're either that or that, likeyou're actually both.
It's just the percentage ofthat scale.
So it's like yes, I'mintroverted, but I have
(14:42):
extroverted moments.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
But that's exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, I know.
So that's what I mean.
So it's like we say we'reintroverted, but that doesn't
mean that we don't haveextroverted moments.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Like it doesn't you know so like on my, thing, I
think.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I was so, then that would make you an ambivert.
I mean theoretically so, likeon my thing, I think I was so,
then that would make you anambivert, if you find.
I mean theoretically, if youfind peace in activities that
are considered extroverted andalso introverted.
That's an ambivert.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yes, but like, for example, when we did the
personality test and it saysthat I'm introverted.
It just means that I get moreof my peace from that than the
others.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
But it doesn't mean that you're only introverted.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
The ratio is different.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And because that ratio goes by percentage.
So I think I'm 60% introverted,so there's still 40% where I'm
extroverted.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I don't remember what my percentage was.
Well, you should double check.
Now I need to go and do a check, it's still automatically saved
.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You just have to go back to the site and it'll check
, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
No, I agree, but that's what I figured out from
doing that.
I think you are both, though Iagree.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Officially both if you are at 50%.
Do you know what I mean, though, because if you're at 50%, I
agree right so it's like you get, you get both.
(16:21):
You, you get you know, versusme at 60 percent.
Like, yes, I can handleextroverted scenarios and I
might find some peace in some ofit, like maybe a gathering and
we're talking about dogs orwhatever, but then in other
contexts you wouldn't we're in aclub, the music is, you know,
(16:42):
blasting and I'm just like oh mygod yeah right yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
So even the thought of doing something like that
gives you dread.
Yeah, yeah, no, okay, yeah, sowe're.
We're saying it two differentways, but we're in agreement
pretty much the same yeahexactly.
I don't care what people think,or I'll do that later.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Which one are you most likely to still think?
I think I've been gettingbetter with the I'll do that
later one.
It's still in there, though,you know, but I think I'm going
to go with the other one.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I don't care what people think.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, less and less as time goes on.
Yeah, you know.
So, like before, I think Iremember in the episode I said
like we say that, but we don'tmean it yeah you know, I think I
remember saying that, like wesay, we don't care what other
people think I'm independent,you know I'm a strong person,
don't care what other peoplethink I'm independent, you know
(17:43):
I'm a strong person, don't care,you know.
But really like we do, you know, but I think I'm caring less.
You know, I really think I am.
I used to feel like I don'tknow, like I had to be so flashy
and I had to, like, prove somuch, you know, and I think
(18:05):
again it comes back down to likethat peace.
You know, like now, like Idon't know, I don't really care.
I care more about what my kidsthink of me than I care about
what anyone else thinks of me.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Right.
So summer then versus now, orgreat outdoors I think the great
outdoors.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That was pretty fun yeah that was a fun one, the
campaign and milking a cow oh,jesus oh, I love that one.
That was really funny.
Uh, okay, so let's do a littlemini segment called the chaos
awards okay it's a one-time only, guys, or?
(18:51):
Or maybe we'll save it for,like, all season finales or
something.
So the chaos awards.
So if you were to vote on themost unhinged episode, the
episode that kind of went offthe rails unexpectedly, anything
come up.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
No, not really.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You.
I mean, I think we're prettytame, yes, maybe in season two
we We'll go a little nutso balls.
You know, because we're like,you know zero chill, Brother,
sister, you know, but like thenwe're like.
So our personality traits areyou know, so so are you saying
(19:39):
that the tagline doesn't fit thevibe?
I'm saying that our podcastsounds more controversial than
it is Than it is, so maybe weshould fix that.
But you want to know what Ithink.
What I think that you were notexpecting us to be so cohesive
(20:02):
with our conversations.
I think you were expecting tobe polar opposites in a lot of
the comments and things that wedid, and what you learned
including myself, is that we'remuch more alike than we think.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
That's what I think happened.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I thought we would have been like I would have had
at least one episode where I'dbe like what the fuck are you
talking about?
Kind of shit, you know, and ithasn't happened yet.
Yeah, in 24 episodes.
So I don't know.
I do think I don't want to sayit's the most unhinged episode,
but I think at least one one ofus, every episode goes off on a
(20:43):
little bit of a tangent.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Well, yeah, for sure, in some respect, I think it's
usually me.
Oh shit, what about our biggestoff-mic meltdown?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Our biggest off-mic meltdown.
Oh yes, when I cried and Iremember it was, it was tech, we
were technically recording andI started you were being all
like fucking heartfelt and shittalking about jet.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
And I started crying and I was like this is getting
cut because I can't have.
I kept crying for sixsubscribers.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
This is not what they signed up for.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Blubbering in the corner.
Yeah, I was just having amoment.
It was just the most heartfeltthing and it got to me.
I should have kept that in.
Maybe I'll just I'll find thefootage and just put it as a
short and be like Lisa cryingLOL.
Don't do anything you don'twant to do.
(21:46):
Well, I'm getting more and moreum, okay, with like not
everything has to be fuckingperfect.
I don't have to be just so.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
It's okay, it's okay.
I think that's also a reallybig lesson that I've learned,
(22:11):
because I do most of the editingright you do all the editing.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I see the.
I really like You're probablyseeing the evolution.
Yes're probably seeing theevolution.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yes, I'm seeing the evolution yeah.
You know, yeah.
Most surprising insight, andyou can't use the personality
traits that we just brought upbefore.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Most surprising insight yeah most surprising
insight.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, um, now it could be about the podcast in
general, or it could be about aspecific episode subject.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I think I was very impressed and surprised with
your um, like the way you think,when it comes to the parenting
with gray and oh.
Parenting.
I remember talking.
I remember us saying you know,talking about that, I was like
oh shit.
I was like, wow, okay, I'mimpressed.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Specifically the none of your business comment.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, that too, you know.
All of that you know.
I thought and, yeah, you know,and just like your thought
process on like the sleepoversand stuff like that, you know.
So for me I feel like that wasquite the insight, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I love the memories that we talk about Childhood
things Not even necessarilychildhood things, even in
adulthood maybe little thingsthat I didn't know about you.
You know what I mean.
(23:50):
I feel like, uh, over theseason there's been a
significant amount of littlethings that I'm like, really I
didn't know that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
You know, yeah, same for sure.
Yeah, those are fun, that isfun.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Um, now what?
What do you want to see inseason two?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
just more of what we're doing yeah there isn't
anything that like pops into myhead.
I think it would be super coolif maybe we have an episode
where we have a third.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Like a guest star.
Yeah, yeah, that'd be fun.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, things to think about.
So, everybody, this is it.
This is the wrap of season one,final episode.
We are really looking forwardto season two, which is coming
in a couple of weeks, so staytuned for that.
New segments, Slightly new lookyeah, just lots of fun stuff
(24:53):
coming.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Please, if there's anything you would like to see
in season 2, why don't you dropus a comment?
You could also send us fan mail, our social media accounts
brother, sister, whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yep, instagram, facebook, youtube.
So this has been Brother,sister, whatever season, one in
the bag, real talk, zero chill.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I'm Josh.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I'm Lisa, and we'll see you soon.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Bye.
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