From Overhead Bin Battles to Travel Tales: Flight Attendant Confessions

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Ever wondered what flight attendants are really thinking when they see you struggling with those fancy neck pillows that never seem to work? Or why they look so annoyed when you claim ownership of "your" overhead bin space? Shawn and G pull back the curtain on airline crew life with unfiltered honesty and infectious laughter.

The duo shares stories of colorful personalities in the skies, including a vibrant Latin flight attendant whose energy level "was at 12" and knew everyone in the terminal by name. This leads to a deeper conversation about crew dynamics and how positive energy can transform even the most challenging workday.

Behind the smiles and service, flight attendants face significant challenges that passengers rarely see. Reserve crew members struggle with disrupted sleep cycles and unpredictable schedules, sometimes working twelve consecutive days with only the minimum required rest periods scheduled in random cities rather than at home. Meanwhile, finding healthy food options while constantly on the move becomes a daily battle against airport prices and limited choices.

The most revealing moments come when Shawn and G address passenger behavior – from the entitlement that makes some travelers believe their job title grants them special treatment, to the perplexing refusal to wear seatbelts despite knowing the dangers of turbulence. Their frustration is palpable when discussing how some passengers treat service workers, reminding listeners that respect shouldn't be determined by occupation or income.

Whether you're a frequent flyer or occasional traveler, this episode offers invaluable perspective on the realities of airline life. Subscribe to Cabin Pressure for more unfiltered conversations that will forever change how you experience air travel!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Why do people battle over overhead bin space Sandwich
talk, the wheat and rye PaninisMonster sandwiches?
Do you use neck pillows andwhat's your favorite neck pillow
?
All of this next on CabinPressure with Sean and Gene.

(00:22):
Hey, everyone, welcome, this isCabin Pressure.

(00:53):
Hey, everyone welcome, this iscabin pressure.
Good morning cabin pressure.
It's shawnee here.
I was thinking about that that,uh.
Good morning vietnam.
You were talking about that afew weeks ago.
Well, I was like, yeah, I cando that.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
I always wait.
I always wait for your weeklyintro, the weekly intro I never
know what you're going to do.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
You know what it's just what am I feeling?
What are you feeling today?
How are you feeling?
How's everybody feeling outthere?
Like get in the groove, Likeget some positive energy.
If you're in a shitty moodright now, pause, Like just
pause, Readjust your attitudebecause attitude is everything

(01:28):
and get it right, we definitelyneed to work on that one with
you your attitude?
No, my attitude is good you gotgood attitude.
He just doesn't like mystraightforwardness, my blunt,
not soft touch.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
You come over and it's like Okay, yeah, hey,
what's going on?
Listen, we got to sit down andtalk.
We're going to go over this andgo over this.
Yeah, man, it's really good tosee you too.
Uh huh, yeah, okay, you sitdown here.
We got to do this.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
You're way past the warm.
I don't need warmer and fuzzy.
You, bitch, sit down, we needto talk.
Did I tell you I like Carolmore Dude man, so out flying man
this last week and I had thisgal she was just so we're

(02:25):
talking about personalities andstuff she was the total sum of a
Latin gal.
She had that whole jazz goingon.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
So her energy level was like at 12.
Yeah, man, it was at 12.
She was, s it was like it was.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
It was at 12.
She was sassy, very, very saucyand uh, she just, she just had
this very positive energy andlike walking with her down a
terminal, like even walk withher, like she was so friendly to
everybody, like every I'mtalking like the cat in the
freaking, like a headset storeand the you know the, the

(03:05):
freaking gift store there.
She's talking to everybody likehey, and she's not talking
about it Like hey, how are youtoday Generalizing?
She's like Paul, what you up to?
Hey, sharon, how you been.
Like, I'm like, meanwhile me andyou've like 30 some years.

(03:27):
We're like I don't know whothey're, like I I recognize some
of the people, but I definitelydon't know their name.
Yeah, yeah, but but she hadthat energy man it was.
It was a good vibe, like I likethat whole, like when you're
around like another crew memberthat has that cool positive
energy.
Right, it steps you, it bringsyour whole everything up right,
your attitude, your, your yourfeeling about the day.
It's.
It was cool man and she wasjust and I was thinking to

(03:47):
myself I'm like, oh, this girl'sgotta have a dude like she's,
she's, she's, she's, she's a funpackage, right and nice looking
gal.
I mean, she had it all going on,but she was like I don't have a
man I can't have, I can't.
I can't give me a man I can'thave, I can't.
I can't give me a man.
A man can't hold her under me.
I'm not doing the accent isgood justice, but um, she, uh,

(04:11):
she's like, I know, I know thatI'm a lot, but uh, you have to,
you can, you can do this.
I can't find any men here thatcan handle me Bullshit.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
You wouldn't have.
There's no way, there's no way,there's no way you think about
that.
That wouldn't be you at all.
What's that?
That kind of energy in thehouse?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, no, what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Oh, yeah, like me having a relationship with a
person that?
No, no, no, and I think that'sit.
Dude, you'd be so far down inyour man cave that you wouldn't
come up.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
She's from Argentina and she knows who she is.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
I don't understand why Shawnee is downstairs in the
middle and I never see him.
That would be you'd be like,hey, no way, no, no, but it's
cool, though Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Like Midwestern men can't?
They're not used to that.
Like you need to go to themarket, like have a friend, like
I have a buddies, um that he'sout of his market for looking
for women.
You know, it's the same thing.
Like there's certain like typesof people that you're going to
be compatible with and if you'renot geographically located in

(05:18):
those things, it's going to bevery hard for you to find
somebody compatible, right.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I mean that and do you agree with that?
I was just sitting therethinking, if I would came over
your house and you were marriedto someone like that, what was
her name?
Uh?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
the immaterial yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
So if you were married to consuela and she
started talking, come down andsean, what did she just say?
Yeah I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
It's unlikely.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
You've been around, because you okay, when you've
been around someone like that,you understand what they're
saying.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Right.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Okay, but if I'm coming, into the game right
there.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I have no freaking clue what they just said.
This girl has a extremely,really heavy accent and she I
would love to have her on ourshow just because she's just,
she's so and vivacious,vivacious about her, like her
life and all that stuff.
But it was, like you know, it'svery hard.
Like my wife, she wouldliterally blank stare because
she would not get, she can'tunderstand any accent.
As soon as you start speakingwith any type of accent, I don't

(06:17):
care what it is, um, I mean,and she's really bad, like with
interpreting that type of stuff,like From Ohio to Indiana
accent, she has trouble.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
But she didn't understand why she didn't have a
man.
But you couldn't even imaginehaving that type of woman in
your house.
There's no way, even with theenergy level, I mean it's great,
don't get me wrong.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Well, that's why you always see the stereotype of
Hispanic women or that passion,that level and that feistiness
and all that stuff you know,like that kind of like that
stigma is.
She was all of that.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I don't understand why I haven't seen some.
He's downstairs there ain't noway.
Yeah, don't you love me?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I love you.
She was sweet dude.
I loved working with her.
She was sweet dude.
I loved working with her.
She was awesome.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
What I love about those people, though, is they do
know everybody.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
I mean, that's all they do, is they talk and they
know everyone, dude here's theother thing about them too
they're all about family, yeah,like their family, their friends
.
That's life, that's theiressence of life, which is where
most people should be at Likeessence, like family and all
that stuff and the whole.
Like she I was asked her.
I was like do you feel you knowalone up here?

(07:36):
Do you know miss?
You know she's like once amonth.
I'm like that's a long flightto to get to argentina once a
month.
That's a lot of traveling, butzoom yeah exactly, zoom is much
easier and much friendlier, butit was crazy.
The other thing that's beenhappening too is uh, um, I've

(07:57):
been flying, I've been gettingall these reserves, you know,
and you know us being seniorpops here and doing, uh, doing
our thing and being in our group, we don't get a lot of reserves
.
Like we know a few reserveshere in cleveland that we that
sometimes get on our trip andsometimes we meet new flight
attendants, but I had a wholecrew.

(08:18):
In both ways I was one of thosepairings where it's like you
know, they keep switching outthe crew, so one leg I had them
out and then next day I had awhole nother crew different
coming back and I wasn't just, Iwasn't the load, I was like
galley, position, right, so itwas like it was.
It was kind of an odd type ofthing that happened.
So but I was asking him, I waslike you know, you know, trying

(08:40):
to like get in touch with thereserves and say, hey, you know
what's the hardest part of beinga reserve?
Like I wanted to hear what theyhad to say and there was two
big things that they they said,which made perfect sense,
because me reminiscing aboutthis, was their sleep cycle.
Like that we can't.
Like sleep is hard, like thefirst part of the being in this

(09:01):
job is getting sleep.
Like and I remember that back inthe day is like it was like
trying to figure out when I canget that sleep and how, because
the the company, like they'regoing to push you to to do
whatever you got to do, theywant you to do, but you just
don't have any rhythm to yoursleep.
You know the circadian rhythmis not in sync.

(09:23):
In the early parts of ourcareer you need to be younger,
you know, more flexible yourbody, be able to agile, to be
able to handle that uh sleepbecause sleep is so important.
But they were like, yeah, wejust can't get a rhythm of sleep
.
Like sometime I'm sleeping atnight, sometimes I'm sleeping in
a day.
Welcome to the world right, theairline world man.
I mean for us.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I was just putting it in comparison to us.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Like we know our rhythm, you know being a line
holder, being senior and stuff,we make it.
We make our schedules the waywe want to make our schedules.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
But there's nothing normal about this job.
No, it doesn't matter whetheryou're a reserve line holder.
Listen, there's nothing normalabout this job ever.
Yeah, I mean, you know youcould.
We could sit there and talkabout this all day long.
Yeah, okay, and and say, oh,I'm sorry for this.
I'm sorry, but no, there'snothing normal, I'm not saying
sorry, I'm just.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I was just like trying to like I was taking a
step back and kind of likelooking at their they're trying
to get their perspective on whatwas happening, because I was
like you know what, you know,being on and all that whole
thing is is hard.
Being a line holder is a littleeasier because we have control
of when we're going to fly andstuff, but we have, you know,
those rhythms don't happen rightaway either.

(10:34):
Right?
I mean, we don't start gettingrhythms and trying to like you
know, getting our like, doingour turns and all that stuff
every day doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
So what's the other one?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
But our turns and all that stuff every day doesn't
happen.
So what's the other one?
But the other one there was, uh, that they were like
complaining that the companyjust pushes them, like the one
gal said to me.
She was like I'm on my uh, I'mon day 12 today and I'm like
what?
Like no to you, and I likethat's a, that's an instant
question, like, like we're likethat's not possible, like
there's no such thing as day 12in the industry.
There's FARs and we, we aremandated by FARs and it doesn't

(11:12):
matter what airline you are.
If you're a part one 21 airline, you've got to have a six days
on, one days off and there hasto be a 24 hour period.
But they were like yeah, thecompany's putting these 24 hour
periods down line, yep, and I'mlike that's a son of a bitch
right there like, like I, youknow, I don't remember I don't

(11:35):
remember too much of thatbecause I didn't have to do too
much of that but the companyused to be uh, or you would
think that these reserves andthe probably the public things
too like you got a day off.
A day off is at home.
Well, no, for a reserve, itcould be anywhere in the world.
You can be 24 hours in freakingJamaica or 24 hours in freaking

(11:56):
Minot, north Dakota.
It's 24 hours off and that'syour day off, and you don't have
control where you get your dayoff at, which is bullshit.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
There's so many things about our job people
don't understand.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, and that's our point in our show, right, right.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I mean, and even when you're that's just a, that's
such a small amount, becauseeven with those, with what
you're saying, let's talk about35 people in a room sharing a
room for a crash pad becausethey ain't got no damn money,
they don't have no money.
Listen, don't ever think.
I mean, it takes probably fiveto six years of being in this

(12:36):
job to realize that you're goingto start making money.
You know, those first few yearsyou're not making any damn
money.
You know that.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
No, it's a struggle to get through it because you're
getting paid very little money.
You're not working.
You're working a lot of hoursbut you're not getting paid for
a lot of hours.
There's shitty hours a lot andthere's shitty time.
I mean your hours are spreadout all over the place, so it's
not like just go to work and getyour 9 to 5 in type of thing.

(13:04):
It's a go in and you get twohours here and an hour over here
and you know.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
You go on these trips and there's one it's like the
Honolulu death run, man Likeyou're coming out of Honolulu
during the daytime, you end upon the West Coast.
You've got two hours sit timethere.
Then you do the red eye in thecleveland and you don't get into
like 6, 37 o'clock in themorning.
On the way home people don'tunderstand man.
You're seeing pink elephants onthe side of the innistrate, you

(13:32):
know, waving you off of the,waving you off of the, the um,
the tree line right, right,right.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
I mean that's the whole that.
That that whole thing is likethe company pushing those
reserves to like they're youknow as far as they can push
them when they're pushing these,like you know, 15 hour duty
days back to back, we don't haverules.
We don't have rules like that.
Where it's like you can have inthis job, where every day is 15

(13:59):
hours, you got 12 hours of rest.
15 hours, 12 hours, that's likeit can go.
Like that, you know so, butit's you have no uh warning if
it can happen.
So I get I don't know.
I just I was just trying torelate, like what some of their
challenges and stuff.
Because when we start talkingabout um rules and the rules of
the reserves and stuff, it wasinteresting to me because I'm

(14:22):
only looking at my perspective,you know, as line holder and
how's it affect me and theserules, because we're many
companies right now are incontract negotiations and stuff.
We're talking about that typeof stuff.
So I just wanted to, like I wastrying to wrap my head around
how they felt.
You know, get their perspective, but it was interesting.
Outside of that nonsense, I'vebeen working on our studio.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
And he did a damn good job.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
We ain't done yet, I know but he still did a good job
.
So here's the thing, man, Iposted a couple pictures and
we're starting to get into thisgroove where I took a little
space in my basement here andwe're starting to.
We want to incorporate video,so we're trying to get in video
and so I'm trying to figure outall the technology and um, also

(15:12):
like just the whole capabilitiesof the things, because I'm
trying to make it so it's niceand smooth, so we can like the
audio here.
This is actually relativelysimple to do, like to do a
podcast, and for those peoplethat are out there want to do a
podcast, listen about it.
It's not a hard thing to do.
You can buy a podcast machineand plug it in and pretty much

(15:34):
the technology isn't too toohard to figure it out.
But when you start throwing inthe video aspect of it and you
start doing multiple cameras andall this stuff, you need
certain types of equipment andall the equipment has to be
compatible and I'm running likeliterally like I had one.
I thought I had to write cables, I had wrong cables, I had to
buy adapters, like there's allthis, like little teeny nuances

(15:56):
to this thing, but as we go herewe're trying to get it all set
up and, um, get, get, get it sothat we launch into video,
because, because I think videoyou guys are going to start
seeing our personalities alittle bit more, because you get
the visual.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
You mean like the visual of me staring at you half
the time or rolling my eyes?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, it's normally not rolling your eyes.
It's more of like you being ina maze the amazement of the
amazing.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I've been amazed with you over 30 years.
Amazed.
My ass is still here.
That's the amazement, that's,that's, uh yeah somebody can
stay around your ass for over 30right anyways man, but we're
working on it.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
I'm hoping like we're shooting for the end of the
year and I'm crossing my fingerswe can do it even sooner, but I
got to get my ass, my thistechnology wrapped around my
head and stuff, and here'ssomething for anybody that's
listening out there.
One of my thoughts was is thatwe can have I might start
looking for like an intern, likesomebody a young kid that's

(17:05):
looking for some information,you know, experience with
working with podcasts and allthis stuff audio visual and
working with cameras and allthat stuff and try to get them
in here in the studio andworking with us, because at
first I wanted to automate thisand I think automation is
probably the coolest thing to do, but it requires very specific

(17:26):
tech and so we're working on it.
I'm working on it to get there,but I think I might look for an
intern eventually, just becausehaving somebody on the outside
running all this equipment is somuch better.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
You just want somebody else to talk to
tech-wise.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
I don't necessarily need it.
Yeah, it'd be somebody thatunderstands, See I gave that to
you.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I gave it to you, I just gave it to you.
I gave it to you Just a littlegimmick.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
I took it, you know it.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Anyways, but you did, do I mean seriously, you did a
great job.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
I mean, seriously, you did a great job.
Yeah, thanks, man.
I mean it is a uh, it's lookinggood, it's feeling good, we're
trying to um, I just I justwanted to make it a relaxed
atmosphere.
I wish this space was bigger,though that's my only thing.
I wish we can.
We had a space that we couldlike put this in, and it's much
bigger, and that way we cancause right now I'm setting this
up for just you know, you and Ithat are going to be sitting

(18:25):
here- I love these retro chairsthough.
Yeah, just like I've been likedude, I've been like thrifting
it, like this is we've got stufffrom like Facebook marketplace,
we've got things from bid sites, we've got you know, just
getting cheap shit.
But it's amazing when you canget for a few dollars, like I

(18:45):
don't think we didn't have thistype of shit when we were
growing up, you know, when wewere young, I mean I got some
really cool airline memorabiliastuff I'm gonna bring in too
yeah, but to the subject of whatwe're talking about, like me,
getting like when we were used,when we when I was first, uh,
when you were crashing at myhouse back in the day and like
me buying stuff in my house, itwas always like to get a good.
I had to get in my ass in a carand I had to run around some

(19:07):
neighborhoods looking for garagesales and get lucky.
You know right, yeah, nowadays,man, the technology is awesome.
Man, facebook like throws amarketplace.
You can get garage sale stuffright on your computer.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Offer up.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Offer up.
All these different sites.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, there's bid sites at MacBid, whatever.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, they've got all these different types of bid
sites across the nation that youcan do to get stuff.
I mean, as a young flightattendant coming up and you're
doing a crash pad and you'relooking for freaking beds and
whatever you're looking for, youcan do pretty good today
without running around like weused to do in our cars and
throwing stuff in the back ofour trunks.

(19:46):
It was crazy, but anyways, uh,and then the last thing I got
man to catch up on with you isuh, man, I got school starting
up.
I got one class left.
This is it.
This is it.
This is my final.
Are you gonna be done withschool now?
Yeah, I think, I think I'm like, I think I got the school bug
out of my blood right now you'regonna be school?

Speaker 2 (20:08):
well, you got enough with me, yeah you gotta school
me a lot.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, the whole education process of getting g
up to speed on things is like itcan be exhausting I'm just
giving you these.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I'm just feeding him to you, don't.
Don't think that I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I'm feeding him yeah, so we got.
So this new degree that I'mdoing.
It's all super heavy tech.
It's called media um, arts andscience is uh.
In fact they changed the degreename.
I don't even know what tochange it to, but I just got an
email about the month.
The greed degree title'schanging.
Mine's not changing, but foranybody in the future they get
get a totally, you know,whatever.

(20:46):
It's weird, but basically whatthis is is like a degree in,
like trying to do art withdigital technology.
So you can there's a bazillion,take that to wherever you want
to think about.
But I got to do my lastcapstone If you don't know what
a capstone is kind of like athesis for art, um, that you do

(21:06):
a big, gigantic project project.
And this requirement for thisdegree is that this capstone
class has to be one year, oneschool year.
So it's going to start here inaugust and I'll finish it in may
of next year end of may, almostjune and out of that some type
of project's going to come outof it.

(21:27):
I don't know what the hell I'mdoing.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I'm thinking how many years you spent in school.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Dude, a lot of years, man.
Well, I mean, it started thiswhole going back to college
thing during COVID, right?
Yeah, so COVID started it upand I was digging it.
It's cool.
It's still cool.
I enjoy it If I'm learningsomething new and I'm interested
in it, which I am interested inthis degree.
It's awesome, man, I tellpeople out there all the time

(21:57):
man don't think a lot of peopleare scared of school, you,
scared of school.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
I wasn't scared of school.
I wasn't scared of school.
But the funny part, what I wasjust thinking, it was about the
technology, because me and youtalk about this a lot Sean's a
techie guy and I never was that.
I mean, I'm a hands-on person,so I like working with my hands,
building things, working oncars, stuff like that.
But that's technology, yeah,but it's a little different, a
different technology.

(22:22):
It's a little differenttechnology, yeah, but it's a
little different.
A different technology.
It's a little different, but Imean he laughs all the time
because we go back and forth,because I'm learning how to do
short clip videos, because wewant to do short clip videos of
places that we go.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, we're going to get some reels out there.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, we want some reels.
So I was working on differentthings, and you know, but
there's a lot to this.
I mean even even taking notesfor shows.
I mean learning how to do thatthere.
There's a lot to it, but youknow, both me and him are busy
all the time.
We don't, we don't have anyextra time.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah our extra time is to like sitting on the jump
seat doing working on our notesall the time like yeah, we're
doing something with the showconstantly.
When we just have a break orsomething like that, we're like
doing something to get to ournext episode, because I mean,
the one cool thing about thisshow, you're like, um, and this
is like a little segue to it,what we're talking about right

(23:15):
here.
I just watched that this showand I know you didn't watch it
because you never watch showsbut there's an.
There's a show out there, thatabout tom brady and his soccer
team.
Have you heard about that?
No, yeah, yeah, so so, and I'mnot surprised by that, but
there's a.
So I just found out on myselfthat he has this, he bought this
Birmingham soccer team and allthis stuff.

(23:36):
But I watched this whole entireshow.
The work ethic that he wastalking about, like it was so
cool to see and and learn howlike they perceive the work
ethic of what they're doing.
Being a professional, what yougot to do, the sacrifices you
got to do, the mental engagementthat you have to commit to in

(24:01):
order to be the best Right,commit to in order to be the
best Right.
And I gotta say, man, one ofthe things on our show is that
we are both G and I are likewe're trying to make this good,
like we want.
We want this to be as best aswe possibly can.
So we're always working at theshow trying to make it, refine

(24:22):
it, tweak it, learn, learn thisstuff as we go and everything.
And you know someday who.
You know somebody, more peoplewill listen to us and we'll have
a big show here.
Well, but I think videoeverybody's going to love.
G.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Not really.
But you know I was going okay,going back to what you were
talking about real quick becauseI had a thought when I first
got into this with you and wefirst started, we had no idea
what we were doing.
We were just sitting aroundbullshit and having fun, and we
still do.
I mean, that's the best part ofit, people.
You know the funny thing aboutwhen I hear about with me and

(24:58):
you they're like who is thatlaughing all the time, right,
and you're like it's G and theynever hear me laugh because life
, most of the time in life,you're so caught up.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Right, all right, right, right, right You're so
caught up in things.
Well, G at work, like if you'reworking with G, G does not fuck
around Like this is all aboutlet's get the job done.
I got other things to do he's.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
I mean, people are paying for something.
Yeah, yeah, that's why I am.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, that's one thing, but also you're like that
everywhere, like every aspectof your life, you're kind of
like that.
You're like, hey, I gotta dosomething and then I gotta do
something again and I got, andthere's something else coming
after that.
I don't got time to be fuckingaround right, I got three more
things, more things, yeah, likehe's going to record this
podcast right now and he'd belike I got to get the fuck out
of here.
Bye.
You know, like like he ain'thesitating and if you guys think

(25:49):
you're like after our show,like geez, like sitting around
we're talking about the show andcracking a beer, that ain't
fucking happening.
He's got a car to repair.
He's got a house to like redo.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
You got something.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
But we're both, but both of us are the same way.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
We're the same thing.
I mean you do different things,we do different things, but
we're very similar in that way.
So you know, like I said whenwe started the podcast you know
it was easy for me and you totalk I told you we can talk
about a carrot now for an hour,right, right, I mean we can, we

(26:26):
can talk about anything for anhour, it's, it's easy now.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
I mean, it's not a hard thing.
Yeah, this is uh, we we've,we've eased into this whole
thing very naturally, like it.
We, we figure out what we wantto talk about and we roll with
it.
But anyways, man, what's beengoing on with you?
Man, let's give you some catchup.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Mine's pretty simple man Going into the airport again
.
Now you know, my favorite thingis when I'm doing my walk-in,
so I got to talk about this.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
It starts my day off Skunk weed, skunk, weed, dude,
you keep on talking about it.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Skunk weed is everywhere, know that.
But I'm just telling you that'show I started my morning off.
I walked into the airport firstthing I did big old smell of
skunk weed.
I hate that, man, I know so doI, but I had to tell you again.
Just smelled it as I was comingin.
But there was something alittle bit better than that.
What's that?
So I'm coming in, I get throughsecurity, I start walking to
the gates and I come come acrossthese three dudes, and they

(27:23):
were standing there.
Now they looked like a crossbetween Duck Dynasty and ZZ Top.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
That's funny.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Now you guys remember ZZ Top, right?
Yeah, all right.
So these guys had these bigbeards.
They're standing there, butthat wasn't the special part.
So they were standing there.
This is what I love aboutairports they were standing
there, they had camo shirts onall of them.
They looked like they calledeach other.
You know they all wanted tolook the same yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
I mean, they were in a group friends forever, right?

Speaker 2 (27:51):
but they had the camo shirts on and then they had
snake skin fitted silk shortsshorts.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
My first thought's like where do you buy that?
Like where is it?

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I had to sit for a moment.
I was like don't get yourcamera don't get your camera
sean ain't gonna believe this,so I gotta get it.
I just gotta try to get apicture of this, yeah but you
probably could ask him.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
But like hey, can I take your guys picture?

Speaker 2 (28:17):
it would have been like yeah, fitted shorts, dude
Duck Dynasty.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
With long beards.
Long beards and big old, youknow.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Camo.
You know when you Start yourday like that it was a fashion
statement.
But when you start your dayLike skunk, weed and ZZ Top With
Duck Dynasty and silk Snakeskin fitted shorts.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Know it's going to be a good day.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
It's going to be at least special when you're
walking in and working.
You're laughing when you'rewalking down the concourse.
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
As long as I do this job.
The thing I love the most aboutthis job is I love the people
watch.
Yeah, I do I can't help it.
As you're cruising in, you knowyou're panning around.
Do you ever do that?
You just pan around.
So as you're cruising in, youknow you're panning around, Do
you ever do that?
Just pan around.
I mean, you're seeing groups ofpeople and you're seeing people
sitting over there and you'llsee, all of a sudden, something

(29:08):
just hit your eye.
Right, Somebody's got some kindof crazy-ass shit on and you're
like what the hell were youthinking?
Right, they got some shit.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
They got like five different colors on, dude, you
know, you know, first of all, wethat's happening all the time.
I mean, how many times we seeall these gals walking around
with these leggings on thatshouldn't have them on?
I don't know, like a dudecoming down the concourse got
like a snow cone head right orthe haircuts that we see, or the
, the, just the hairstyles wesee and just like it's crazy man

(29:42):
, I've seen so many peoplewatching stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
This one pilot.
He had the craziest, craziest.
What was it?
You know, Joe Dirt.
Yeah, Joe Dirt, he had thatmullet man.
Oh yeah, he had the craziestlooking freaking mullet Dude.
I don't know why would anybodywant a mullet man.
Yeah, oh yeah, he had thecraziest looking freaking mullet
dude.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
I don't know why would anybody want a mullet?

Speaker 2 (30:08):
it was a thing back then I understand it was an ugly
thing, but damn, it's stillugly it's still ugly oh yeah
dude.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
I have a cat in my neighborhood.
Man, he's a, he's such a niceguy.
But last year he grew a mulletand I was like and this, this
dude is like 70 years old.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
It was the god awfulest look I've ever seen
billy ray please, please, go toa barber to shave that shit off,
but that's I mean.
That is one of the the thefunnest things about our job is
you.
You walk through and you'll Ifind myself panning around and
you know, even as I'm walking by, I'm walking by and I'm

(30:52):
thinking, oh, that looks good.
You know what I mean?
I mean, they're a couple, theylook really cute.
And then you're like what thewhat is that?
What is that?

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yep, crazy People watching.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
People watching in the airports.
But I had to talk about thisbecause this recently occurred
in our world and it kind ofbothered me.
You ever get bothered by, youknow, people.
They determine that they'reworth by either the job title or
the money that they make.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
I'm not about that we see this a lot.
You know that.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Because see, here's the thing about flight
attendants, and people reallydon't understand.
The majority of these peoplehave their college educations
and, as you can tell, sean hasdone nothing but educate himself
.
Now we are what they considered.
Let's see, just flightattendants, just stews, just
what's some of the other thingsthey say that you're a glorified

(31:54):
waitress, or whatever it is,it's all, whatever the
stereotypes that come with thejob.
Right, all these stupid commentsthat come with it and then.
But you come across thesepeople, these individuals that
they have to make a statementand they act like because the
amount of money that they makeor their title makes them a

(32:16):
better person.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Dude, entitlement is one of the worst freaking.
It should be like one of theworst sins period.
I mean it is.
It is a um.
Entitlement drives bad behavioreverywhere does that bother you
?

Speaker 2 (32:33):
on a plane, though?
When, oh yeah, when they, whenyou know, when you know that
that person is basically tryingto make them more important than
you because of their eithertheir title or the amount of
money that they make, yeah, thatyou're.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
You're basically nothing yeah, here's the, here's
the thing.
I'm not going to do anythingabout it, but I'm definitely not
going to contribute to it.
You know, I mean, like they cancome, that they're going to
come with that attitude towardsme, like you're not going to be
received and you're probably notgoing to get the best service
in the in the in the world, likeI don't ever get that.

(33:11):
Like why do you want to actthis with that behavior to the
person that's serving you Right?
Like I don't care if it's aflight attendant or a person in
a restaurant, or like all thesepeople that are doing service
jobs out there, and you're goingto come at them with this very
entitled?
You should be more appreciative.

(33:31):
Like you should be more likethankful that these people are
serving you.
They're doing you a service.
Don't don't treat them asthey're beneath you.
They're serving you becausethis is the life that they
wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
We went out to eat Mexican food the other night.
Two things about that.
First of all, before I get intoit, I'm going to bring that
full circle on this one.
But okay, real quick with theMexican food.
I have to say this too when yougo to eat Mexican, do you ever
feel like any of the food isactually cooked?
It's not just warmed up, thrownin a damn oven.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
No, Okay, heated up Because they got like 90.
The Mexican places I go I'venever felt that way?

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Oh see, I always think that they just re-warm.
Where are you eating at?
They got 90 different things.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Where are you eating at?
Oh yeah, with the menu.
Yes, I get what you're saying.
Yes, like there's Mexican menusthat have like 100 things
different dishes on it.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
I'm not talking to a chef.
I'm not talking to a Mexicanchef, Sean.
I'm talking about a Mexicanrestaurant.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
How is this like?
How are they able to puttogether all these different
dishes you know 90 differentdishes in like boom?
How's that possible?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Anyway, the food wasn't that good.
But the point was going back tothis.
This girl was a waitress thereand she was a young girl.
Now, in this particularrestaurant they've always used
the men for waiters Very fewwomen that they had.
Well, the young girl was ourwaitress Phenomenal,
unbelievable.
She was so nice, absolutely.

(35:05):
She was there every secondDrinks were filled, came back.
There was a problem with mymeal because it wasn't good.
I mean, she didn't even thinkabout it.
She took it right off the bill.
Came back and you know what'samazing Going back to this, it's
not about your job, it's notabout how much money you make.

(35:25):
And I told her.
I said you know, do you get thetips or is it divided?
And she goes I get them.
I said okay, because the reasonwhy I'm giving you the tip is
because of the way that you arethe type of person you are and
she's a waitress now.
God knows what she's going tobe in her future.
But let me tell you that typeof person, they're amazing.

(35:46):
Yeah, okay, and I can't standwhen a person, just because of
what you do, that you think thatyou're better than somebody
else, just because of your job,because you know you're around a
lot of people that have a lotof money.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Okay, and the cool thing is is that you get these
also, these other people thathave a lot of money, yeah, okay,
and and the the cool thing isis that you get these also,
these other people that theyhave all this money and they
never act like it they don't actlike that no dude, I got some.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
I got some super cool friends that are like loaded
right, they're loaded I knowthey are they don't have to.
They don't worry about money.
Yeah, like they can't they.
It just comes to them, but theydon't act that way.
But these people don't even to.
They don't worry about money.
Like they, it just comes tothem, but they don't act that
way.
But these people don't evenhave that kind of.
They're just normal Joes.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
They don't even have that kind of money.
And then all of a sudden, it'salmost like they're more
important than you or me intheir job title.
And you know, trying to makeanother person feel smaller is
absolutely ridiculous.
Trying to make another personfeel smaller is absolutely
ridiculous.
And then you try to make themfeel like they're less of a
person because they're doing ajob that doesn't make as much

(36:51):
money as you.
It's just asinine.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
You know what People that are like that.
They're insecure, first of allbecause they're trying to
project a status that they don'tyou know whether they have it
or not, I don't, I can give ashit.
But um, as I say, like a lot ofmy friends and stuff, we were
just talking about this with theanother buddy of mine and he I

(37:15):
was like he was asking me youknow like how do you deal with
all those famous people?
Cause he was like we were.
You know, hulk Hogan passedaway the other day and I met him
the year before and all thisstuff.
They're like you know what'sthat like.
I look at him, I'm like what doyou mean?
What's that like?
I'm like they're humans, likethey just they put on pans, just

(37:44):
just the way I do like, andmost of them are really cool,
like they're all laid back there.
If you just act like they'renormal people and they, they
treat you like they're normal.
That's what they're looking for.
The problem is is that oursociety has, like, made them
into these like uh, you know,demigods and stuff like that
that you just can't like, thatyou think that they're.
There's this type of certainbehavior projection that's being

(38:05):
put on them and they don't wantthat they.
That's why so many of them likeare trying to hide from the
paparazzi and all that nonsense.
You know it's like they justwant to be, live their life
normal, like, be, be a normalperson it's amazing when you get
, when you get one of them inthe, in the g, you start talking
.
Yeah, they're chill, they'renormal.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Man, I was like that.
They're just like anybody else.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Like I had Usher up in the galley one time.
Me and him were just rappingabout it.
I'm like, how's it?
Like being like this wholething?
You know what do you think?
We were just talking abouteverything.
He was just chill, normal guy,you know.
You know, tell me about hisfamily.
And you know, I was like that'swhat this is, this is what
we're, what people are supposedto be doing.

(38:46):
We're supposed to be connectingand bonding and, you know, and
enhancing each other's lives.
We, we shouldn't be like, youknow, looking at each other like
we're.
There's some type of statussymbol to it.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
It's so stupid just never let another person make
you feel less, because you know,like I said, you're not judged
by the amount of money that youmake or the title that you have.
It's the type of person thatyou are that's it.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
So let's talk about a place that we frequent, often
on our layovers back in the day.
Back in the day, back in theday.
We're talking about the famousWheat and Rye in Michigan.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Do you remember that place when we first went there?
That?
Was a little hole in the wall.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Do you remember it?

Speaker 2 (39:37):
I mean, it was a dump little hole in the wall place.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
I mean not a dump but it was actually.
It was a dump, little hole inthe wall place.
I mean not a dump, but it was.
It was actually.
It was a little bar that justmade great sandwiches, huge, but
the sandwiches are like whenyou say who huge it's unless you
had the sandwich, you don'tunderstand like we're like.
It's just it wasn't bigsandwich.
These things were likemonstrosities.
You could not g and I could putaway some food in early days.

(40:03):
Right, yeah, I mean we couldknock some we would eat.
I mean it was insane, we werejust two young guys doing it.
But I mean wheat and rye, youget a sandwich.
You can split that and still belike why did I eat that much?
Anyhow, the wheat and rye manis like just a phenomenal

(40:23):
sandwich and it's just gigantic.
There's no, I've never seen aflight attendant where we're
like well, I'm gonna eat thiswhole sandwich because I mean
they stack a sandwich andthere's like if you had like a
roast beef sandwich, you'd havea pound, pound and a half of
meat you.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
You're taking half of it home.
Yeah, there's no way, did you?

Speaker 1 (40:42):
ever see the tuna one .
Yeah, I mean, it's so much foodYou're just like.
Are you for real?
You could have made foursandwiches out of this.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
It's like tuna soup by the time you get it.
No, they're huge, I mean.
And the bread was fresh cutbread too, yeah, but you know
what it reminded me of?
What's that, dude?
Come on, when we were young,you introduced me to the panini
sandwich.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Ah, paninis.
First of all, for those of youout there in the world that
don't know what paninis is, itoriginated and I'll give you a
little bit of sandwich history.
In Pennsylvania they had thesesandwiches.
They started making inPennsylvania and I can't
remember the first origin ofthis, where it was, but they

(41:30):
made these sandwiches andbasically it was two slices of a
French bread.
They would take these and justhand-slice French bread and
they'd make these sandwicheswhere they would make these deli
sandwiches French bread andthey'd make these sandwiches
where they would make these delisandwiches.
And then they would stack.
They would take a giant handfulof French fries and put it on
top of the sandwich and you'dhave like coleslaw, cabbage, all

(41:52):
this stuff with French friesand then whatever type of meat
you want on it and it was just amonster, giant sandwich and it
was like, instead of just havingan ordinary sandwich, a deli
sandwich with some fries.
It was all on the sandwich andpaninis was invented out of that
here in the local area and it'sspread down.

(42:15):
Paninis are actually spread alittle bit all over the East
Coast now, but they arefantastic sandwiches.
He introed me, you introed me.
We were down the flats, we weregoing out, yeah but they are
fantastic sandwiches.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
He introed me, you introed me.
We were down in the flats.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
We were going out.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, but when we were younger we used to hang out
down in the flats and we usedto go bar hopping down there and
Sean was like oh gee, you gotto come and try this sandwich.
You ever tried this sandwich?
I was like no, it was hangoverfood.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
It was like we were drinking all night.
Now we need to get some stuff.
You know, soak up some of thatstuff at our, at our age, is
cardiac food yeah, and right nowit is, and so you, you'd go
down there and like there wouldbe a line there and this guy was
.
It was like the soup nazi onseinfeld man.
It was like they were just likenext, next, next, next, and the
sandwiches were like threedollars that piled I mean just

(43:02):
big giant sandwich, I mean justoh, it was so good what's the
price of that sandwich today?
yeah, we just looked this up, itwas 12, it's 12, 50 for that
sandwich, that same sandwich?

Speaker 2 (43:12):
probably not even as much.
Yeah, that shit was stacked Imean we walked out of there.
You were stuffed it is.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Every now and then I'll hit paninis because we have
a few Panini's.
They turn them into restaurantsand bars and all this stuff.
They're big time now.
They're a big establishment,kind of like Hooters or BW3 or
whatever.
They're that size now.
But it started off as literallythe guy running a space and he

(43:39):
had a hot flag like a Blackstonegrill going and just was like
boom.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Crazy.
It was so damn good.
But listen, those two placeslet me tell you, michigan Wheat
and Rye.
If you're in that area and yousee that restaurant, jump in
there, try one of theirsandwiches.
They are super good.
And definitely try a Panini'sYep, a Panini's sandwich

(44:06):
sandwich off the chain man,really good, but okay.
So had a question because thiswas funny.
I was watching on the plane theother day and, um, do you know
something that we?
We always see passengers wherewe don't really think about?
And I was.
I was thinking about this.
It's kind of funny neck, pillowsneck neck, pillows, neck, I
know you right, you, you wouldmake right neck pillow.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Neck pillows on the plane have turned into this
whole like uh, scientificexperiment.
Have you seen all the differentstyles that they have?
And we're not just talkingabout wrap around the neck right
, have you?
seen the ones, the ones in thefront, where you're like you're
putting your face in thosethings I guess now've got the
ones where they're like a mask,okay, and then it hooks to your

(44:47):
back of your chair so you don'tdo the head nod thing.
They've got the one.
Have you seen the one where youlook like that little green
Martian from Flintstones?
What's the guy's name?
Q, Q, yeah, yeah, q.
Your head looks the size of theQ, literally.
It's a bubble thing that youput all the way over your whole
entire head.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
you look like an alien and you got that little
face.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and there's just like a place to
breathe thing with your mouth,so you can see the nose and
mouth but you can't see anythingelse and it just looks like
this big alien head and thing weshould have put like little
little um alien off the top ofit.
I saw just the other day.
I saw the one where they blowit up and they put it on the
tray table in front of them andthey could lean into it and just

(45:30):
like lean over onto it and theyput their face bedded into it.
I was like dude, there's allthese weird ass neck pillow
things.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, but you see all these they're hooked on bags or
they're going around their neck.
But then you watch all thesethey're they're hooked on bags
or or they're they're goingaround their neck, yeah, but
then you watch them when, whenthey sleep okay, so they always
put when they do it, they putthe button in the front.
You ever see their heads there?
No, their heads just fallstraight forward.
Yeah, it's not doing a damnthing.
Nope, it's not doing one thing.

(45:58):
I'm sitting there looking atthese people laughing, going
okay, okay, you bought that headpillow and it doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Well, the one, the one, the new one, that one that
I said that attaches to the seatheadrest.
That one to me was like I sawsomebody the other day that had
it and she had it hooked to theback of her seat and it came
over like it kind of had acushion in the back of it, of
your head, but it also had likethe sleep blinders on on it too,

(46:30):
so like it didn't matter whatdirection your head fell in,
whatever.
It wasn't like going to makeyou do those nods and stuff like
that.
So that and that one I was likethat makes little bit of sense
because it feels like you'releaning.
It doesn't matter which way yougo, you'd be able to feel like
you're leaning and you're you'recatching something you know,
without having something thereyou'd like to be able to lean on

(46:51):
.
So that one made a little bitof sense.
The alien thing I don't knowwhat the fuck they're thinking
um, the uh, the little neckthing, like those things suck.
I mean a kid coming on theplane the other day.
He's like dad, dad, dad, Ilearned that this neck pillow,
you're not supposed to snap itin front, you're supposed to
snap it in back, you're supposedto put it under your chin,

(47:15):
exactly.
And I'm like yeah, yeah, andI'm like yeah, I'm like this is
cool that the kid is likeeducating, because you never see
anybody put it under their chin.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Right, that was my point.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
I know.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
I mean, the whole point of it is when we see them
have it on, the big part is inthe back and the little parts in
the front and you see theirneck goes just droop forward.
Turn the damn thing around.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Their thought process is this is a pillow, like I'm
laying down on a pillow type ofthing.
Yeah, their, their um thoughtprocess is this is a pillow,
like I'm laying down on a pillowtype of thing.
That's your thought process.
I don't understand that.
It's supposed to keep you fromdoing the head nods forward.
Right, you know, your head back.
Yeah, keeps your head back andup, so that way you're not like
doing that, not I hate the nodsyou're breathing, breathing a

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little easier.
Dude to wake up and you get thatbody jerk whoa, yes I'm a
drooler, so I've always been adrool my whole damn life, dude.
I was a kid in school likesleeping on the desk.
Get up from the desk andthere's a pool of drool on the
thing and all the kids arelaughing I'm like, yeah, that's
fucking me.

(48:19):
That's why I can't help.
I should, as I wipe it up withmy sleeve, right some rabid dog?

Speaker 2 (48:30):
yeah, oh, did somebody see that?

Speaker 1 (48:32):
yeah, did somebody see that shit?

Speaker 2 (48:35):
big spaghetti.
They came I hope.
Nobody saw me oh my god, you'rekilling me.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
That was the shit, man.
That's what happened, man, itstill happens.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
All right, here's one that just happened the other
day too.
This is kind of funny.
Battle of the overhead bends,please.
Battle of the bends, thishappens all the time I don't
even get it Happens all the timewhen they come on board.
When the passengers come onboard, you guys realize this.
Nobody, nobody, nobody owns anoverhead bin.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
No, nobody.
It doesn't matter where you'resitting, the bins are all
community.
Just put it up there whereveryou find space.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
But just realize this If you're sitting all the way
in the back and you put that bagtowards the front of the
aircraft and you, you get themup there and it's gone, that's
on you.
Yeah, because if you put it outof the view of yourself, how
many black suitcases do youthink are on that aircraft?

Speaker 1 (49:29):
but that's the concern, like that's, that's
also the concern of everybody,like that's on the plane, like I
want it next to me because Iwant to watch my bag.
And we get that right, we getthat.
But there isn't any freakinglaw says that that has to be.
Your bag has to be right there.
You can, just you can have it afew bins away and just know and
be able to have an invisiblething.
But when you're in the veryback of the plane, you put it on

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the front of the plane.
You don't, can't see it, or itis in visual range.
You know that's on you, dude Iknow we, you on.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
you get two different sides of this with people,
because you get the, get thepeople that throw it in the
first class and they walk allthe way to the back of the
aircraft and they come up thereand bitching that their bag's
gone, or they go to the back andthere's no spot.
Yeah, man Right, this is ourlife.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Nobody owns the bins, bags, shit.
All the time it's tiring andthen we close the bins and they
gotta open the bins yeah, ohyeah, especially when you tell
them that they're full yeah,they love that don't open the
bin because they're full.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
They're full and they the first thing to do is open
them.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Those bins aren't?
They're not light.
Nope, they're not light.
That's.
The thing is that you know,like the new bins on the newer
generation aircraft, we we couldput like five, six bags in
there.
Five, six roller bags isgetting heavy and pushing things
up and stuff.
And for some of these gals, Imean, unlike you and I like you

(50:55):
know, we can pop them up, butthey get heavy.
Man, people are putting a lotof heavy shit in their bags and
they want you to pick it up.
Yeah, I had this, I had this umand this lady just a couple
days ago and she was of aanother foreign culture that's a

(51:16):
nice way of putting it yeah,and she could not understand.
Like this guy got up and he outof a seat and he's like, here,
can I help you?
She's like, thank you, thankyou so much.
No one does this for peopleanymore.
No one, no one will help people.
And I'm like you know, I'm juststanding there listening and I

(51:38):
know that she's like kind oflike throwing this at me, like
why aren't you helping me?
Asshole, you work here.
I need help, I need to lift mybag in the bin.
But people don't get that.
People don't get why thecompanies don't like that.
That's a super big liability inthe airline industry.
Flight attendants don't liftbags and the reason why is

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because if you want to get frompoint A to point B, you don't
want us to get injured.
I pick up that heavy-ass bagthat you got, all your freaking
bricks or whatever the fuck itis.
You got some heavy-ass shit, manI mean some of those bags are
like 70, 80 pounds, man.
It's like I'm like, whatever itis, that grandma has no
business bringing it on theplane, and my thing there should

(52:23):
be a rule where it's like, ifyou can't lift the bag over your
head, don't bring it in theplane but some of those bags,
even like the tummies, are heavywith nothing in them yeah,
they're just so.
Then you have their shit.
And I mean it's crazy, one timelifting over, you pinching nerve
or do something or whatever itdoes, and you get jacked up and
then all of a sudden, the flightis down and boom, guess what?
You're not going on vacation.

(52:44):
Nope, yeah, airlines justcanceled that shit.
Oh, we're down to potty.
We don't got another body toreplace it.
Grandma with their bag andfreaking 83a, she just fucked
all you.
But anyways, what did they?
Uh, but it's, it's hard.
Like I didn't even go therewith her, like you know.

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I just let her, like roll withit and you know, the guy dude
helped her out, which I washappy that.
You know, people should behelping people out.
We should have like a sign Ithink I'm in the airline
industry when you come on aplane like um, today we're
requiring everybody on board todo one good deed for one person
on a plane, like pay it forwarda little bit.

(53:28):
You know they take care of eachother.
I let you in my row, yeah, Imean, oh, I do.
I had to check this dude theother day too.
Man, he was like I'm trying toget.
There's a family, we're on afour-hour flight to la and they
got a baby.
We got seats open and stuff,and so I'm looking on the map
and like, oh, maybe there's aperson in that row, I can move

(53:48):
them over to another row.
So there was a person on theaisle, or they were actually on.
They had picked A and B, tryingto take the gamble right,
trying to get the middle seatopen, and I already knew what
was going on, and so somebodywas sitting in the middle seat.
So I was like somebody'ssitting there.
So the person comes and I'mlike hey, they had moved him to
the aisle.
And I said, hey, why don't wemove you up to this aisle?

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Her husband was right acrossthe aisle, sitting in the middle
seat.
They were husband and wife,they were both in middle seats
because they must have got theirtickets late or whatever.
And he's like no, no, no, shecan go sit over here at the
window.
And I was like no, I saidthat's not going to work because
I got an aisle up here.
And he's like no, no, no, butI'd rather have her here.
I turned around, dude, and Ijust looked at him and I said

(54:32):
what Are you going to?
Let me do my job?
I said, because I've been doingthis for a minute and I got
this.
I said so you stay there.
You do you right now and let metake care of this.
But if he just came at me likethe wrong way and I got
irritated, I was like you knowthis, your wife, this bitch is

(54:52):
going to be sitting in friggingup front soon or off the
aircraft in the lobby.
I'm just dying.
And the person next to him waslike good job.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
It's one percenters.
I mean, you know we make itsound like this a lot, but it's
like 1% that you run into this,I mean, and they're just stupid
thing, like the person thatasked me to make the baby be
quiet.
Right, right, baby, be quiet,right.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Right, baby, be quiet , as if we got the control.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Let me see what I'm going to do with this one.
Go grab a pillow.
What do you want me to do?

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yeah, can you do something about that baby?

Speaker 2 (55:28):
It's a baby.
That's got to be the dumbestquestion, dumbest statement that
anyone ever wants to make to aflight attendant.
Can you tell that baby to bequiet?

Speaker 1 (55:37):
As if we got control to do something with it.
Like honestly, yeah, here, letme, I'll crack the door in the
back and toss it out.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
And then they wonder why they get a stupid look from
you.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Well, you only get stupid looks when you make
stupid statements, right?

Speaker 2 (55:52):
That happens all the time.
Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.
Copy that Hard hardest thingabout, uh, flight attendant's
job.
What do you think?
It is, dude, one of?

Speaker 1 (56:02):
well, one of the hardest one of the hardest
things is uh, I didn't dude, Ididn't even know where you're
going.
Where are you going eating?

Speaker 2 (56:11):
you know, you said you're sleeping with it.
With they find it eating iseating is one of the toughest
things about our job.
We don't get the time let's sayeating correctly, because we
don't.
A lot of flight attendants eatlike shit.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
That's my biggest struggle these days is actually
the eating part of the jobBecause first of all, I mean the
company gives us crew meals oncertain flights and you know the
certain situations, whatever.
But honestly I mean, as long aswe've been doing it, the food
food's shit like we that sodium.
You can't eat that every day,man like it's just, it's not

(56:46):
good for you, and so we'realways trying to like bring our
own somewhat healthy foods, youknow, eat some fruits and
vegetables and stuff like that,and but but here's the thing
like we're pulling these liketurns la turns, like you got to
bring all day your all-day food,and that's that's where it gets

(57:07):
tough.
It's like okay, what am Ibringing for all day?

Speaker 2 (57:11):
but how about these reserves that go on four day
trips and they can't I mean,they can't eat for four days?
They can't bring that.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
You bring snacks with you or bring stuff that you can
sustain for a little while.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
They're surviving off airplane food.
Yeah, your airplane airportfood, and that's a bucket of
suck right there.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Yeah, airplane and airport food.
I mean, the airport food, I gotto say, is getting somewhat
better, but it's just soexpensive and you're not making
enough money to do it, so do itright.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Airplane food is two things it's sodium and butter.
You pick Right, it's eithersodium or butter.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Pretty much.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
I mean that's.
I think one of the hardestthings in our job is actually
the ability to eat correctly.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Try to keep a decent diet.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
All right.
How about the misconception offlight attendants?
A couple of them.
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Well, I think the number one thing is that
everybody's like oh, you know,this is a glamorous job, you
know that's the biggestmisconception to me.
But there's so manymisconceptions out there it's
like hard to put your finger on,like what's the biggest one?

Speaker 2 (58:19):
it's not like we live pan am no right yeah come fly
with me.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Yeah, it's not like we're like laying over in each
destinations.
We're on all-inclusive hotelsand we've got 24 hours, 48 hours
here, like that's not happening, dude.
Nope, I love it.
My, my one number one thing isthat people that don't know
about the industry they'realways like so when you get to
these destinations, like do youget to have some time there?

(58:47):
Like how much time do you getto have?
Like do you get to get off theplane and go there?
Like I'm, like, I'm like I'mdoing a turn, yeah, yeah, and
that turn can go to hell, likemine did the other day.
Yeah, like I don't even knowwhat the weather is like there,
because I don't get off theplane A lot of times.
It's like I'm in that tube allday long.
What's happening on the outsideof the tube?

(59:08):
I don't know, because we're notlooking out the windows I'm not
on a flight, just like lookingat scenery, right?
No, it's like we have no ideawhat's happening.
If it's, if the outsideenvironment isn't shaking my ass
in the plane, I don't knowwhat's happening, right?

Speaker 2 (59:26):
see, I I say this all the time.
You know, when people thinkthat we get paid for the, the
peanuts and pretzels and and youknow that's what we do, our
service, that's a small part ofwhat we do.
You know, it's trained forsafety and security and some
other things, but this is what Ireally think, that our pay and

(59:47):
that's another thing is howwe're paid.
We'll talk about that in aminute.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Yeah, people don't get how.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
How we get paid.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Yeah, All the it's.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
But let me finish this one first.
But let me finish this onefirst.
So I think honestly, flightattendants, it's your risk
factor, because you know there'sa risk factor in what we do
every single day.
We're in a tube at 35,000 feetevery day and we repeat it, and
that tube is two wings filledwith fuel and two big engines on

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each side of it and ifsomething happens, if something
happens and something goes wrong, good chance we ain't coming
home is two wings filled withfuel and two big engines on each
side of it and if somethinghappens, if something happens
and something goes wrong, goodchance we ain't coming home.
So I mean, when you're lookingat you know why we get paid.
What we do is risk factor.
Most people are scared to deathto get on a plane one time.
One time, right, they get on aplane and they're scared to
death to fly one time.
They're looking at us to feelsupport.

(01:00:40):
So let me tell you, even thetoughest men, I've seen them
scared shitless when we get intosevere turbulence.
Or they have a pressurizationproblem in their ears where
they're just looking for someoneto help them, right, I mean,

(01:01:01):
we've seen that brought to tearsbecause the pressure in their
ears is so bad that theireardrums are going to blow, and
we've seen that too.
So when you think why areflight attendants or how are
flight attendants paid, there'sa risk factor that goes with it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Yep, to a certain extent we are like you know.
It's being valued based on thevalue of what we're trying to do
.
Right, it is, but every airlineis paid different.
That's the other bigmisconception about that subject
is that we all, depending onwhat airline that you're working

(01:01:41):
with, some go off a time, somegoes off a flight miles, some
you know like.
So how your day rolls outimpacts how we're being paid,
and so yeah, it's, it's.
It's a tricky ass.
There's no like.
Literally, we can talk forhours about how this pays Right

(01:02:02):
and then at the end of it you'dbe like what?
Yep, huh, how do you keep trackof that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
I think it's a huge misconception with people,
though, because they think thatyou're paid for every little
bitty thing, I mean right whenyou show up.
That's not the way it works.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Let's go around the globe.
Yeah, let's talk about that.
Did you hear about that parentallegedly ditched their
10-year-old child at the?

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
airport Home Alone.
The movie.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Yeah, kevin, kevin wasn't at the airport, at least.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
He was a real-life Kevin.
This kid became actually thereal-life Kevin Pretty much.
Did you read this?
Did you see what they did?
They forgot his I don't knowhis travel information.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Like the passport or something like that.
I think it was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Yeah, and then so they're like they can't.
They didn't get a refund onthis, so we got to go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
We got to go.
I got to get out of here.
What am I gonna do with my kid,kevin?
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Aunt Susie's gonna come here in like four hours
just sit right here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
We're gonna get on a plane, stay here and Susie's
gonna get you and we'll get him.
We'll get him a call andthey'll be right here.
Just be patient.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Bye what the fuck, are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
dude man, I don't even could you imagine being on
the flight.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
You look across there and you're like, um, I wonder
what kevin's doing.
This is why?

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
uh one?
Uh, no such thing as commonsense.
Uh, they're like people needlicenses to have kids or
something I don't know, to beresponsible for another human
being I would love to see theaftermath of this one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
It didn't have any of the information of what
happened to the parents.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I would like to see that, yeah I mean I'd like to
have seen them, like, getting totheir destination and being put
in handcuffs.
That's what I'd like to haveseen and su Susie goes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Kevin's not here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
What an idiot they weren't shouting Kevin, they
were literally like you know, Ihope he's okay, maybe not.
Maybe they weren't eventhinking about that.
They were probably drinkingtheir Mai Tais heading to their
destination.
It's Kevin's fault.
He forgot his passport.
Unbelievable People are people.
Think, think, just use time toyou know, take a pause and just

(01:04:24):
think is this right?

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
now.
Now this next one.
This would be a couple flightattendants to be retiring on
this one.
What's that flight from burbankto vegas?
It descended like 475 feetshortly after takeoff.
It had a rapid descent becauseit had to avoid a possible
midair collision.
Now you know something there'llbe a couple of flight
attendants to be retiring afterthat.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Dude, I'm going to tell you right now, like the
more this goes on, like the DCincident and all these different
uh uh, you see all these closecalls and and then you look at
the statistics in the UnitedStates of like how often this
happens, like the close calls,it's kind of scary right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Yeah, but it goes back to what I was saying why we
get paid, though.
I mean how we get paid becausethis is it right.
There is the risk factor theydon't understand.
Planes take off what?
Every 30 seconds, a lot ofthese airports yeah I mean
they're taking off every 30seconds they're landing, taking
off and you know this is goingto happen and you know
fortunately it hasn't occurredthat much, but it's a, it's a

(01:05:33):
risk that that happens and and475 feet drop.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Yeah, that would.
That would be a tough well,this is the.
This is the thing, man, Like Ijust this whole thing with
turbulence and seatbelts andlike an incident like this, just
it always pisses me off, likeI'm like it at one part of me,
one part part of me says this.

(01:05:58):
One part of me says every nowand then, on every flight, I
wish the fucking plane wouldjust drop like 20 feet just to
be like check people, likebecause I'm like people are so
freaking smug and you know I'mdoing whatever I want to do and
it's like what we're saying isjust doesn't have any value.

(01:06:19):
That that's, I think that'swhat, the biggest irritation.
It has no value.
And until they experience it,until they're actually on a
plane or they've experiencedthat accident it's kind of like
a car accident, like you knowuntil you're in that situation
where, oh yeah, that seatbelthelped me, then they believe it.
But until then, these stupidasses just never put the

(01:06:42):
seatbelt on.
It's the simplest thing to keepit loose.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Now when you get in a hotel van, you look for a
seatbelt.
I do, I know, me too.
Yeah, that's one thing.
A lot of our flight attendantsgo into the hotels and they're
going on the interstate andyou're watching this van driver
go in and out.
Man, and you don't have aseatbelt.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Well, here's the other thing.
I mean, that's as stupid asthat right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
I mean it's as stupid , it's not stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
The aspect of it is like this it's like I trust our
pilots because they've gonethrough a lot of training and a
lot of work to get to theposition they are.

(01:07:26):
They're like.
This is not.
They're not ignorant to thefact of well, you know all the
different safety aspects andwhat they've had to do to get to
this point.
Van driver not so much rightlike like uh especially early in
the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
His ass has not been asleep.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
You know, you've been up all night rico, uh juan or
uh johnny, uh, they they're notlike specially trained in this
van driving stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
I mean they've been driving in the morning time and
all of a sudden you see themlike they're like half nodding
off.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
You're like hey hey, man, wake up, dude and a we.
The one thing that you willexperience as a flight attendant
is a scary ass van driver.
It is man, it's not, there'snot anywhere.
I mean they will like you.
I've been many hands wherewe're like slow down, wake up.
You gotta slow down, wake up,right, right, dude, pay

(01:08:09):
attention road.
You're like yeah, it's, you'refalling a little close behind
that semi yeah, we should begetting extra pay just for
riding in the damn van sometimes, talking about pay, anyways,
yeah, and then this segues tothe whole thing.
Like that whole incident thatjust happened with that airline
25 people getting hospitalizedfor turbulence I mean that to me

(01:08:32):
just blows my mind.
Like that was 25 people on thataircraft that didn't have their
seatbelts on and I guaranteeyou 90 of them knew better,
right, yeah, like, I mean, like,come on, it's one thing where
you get like a kid gettingtossed in the air or something
like that, or a baby or whatever, but when you have a grown

(01:08:54):
adult and they're getting hurtand then they're upset and
they're going to sue because ofthis whole thing happened, you
know, like, like, did you haveyour seatbelt on?

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Simple.
Thing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
It's so stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Don't don't keep the what I've seen with turbulence
over my career and the amountlike the flight attendants get
hurt and I've seen flightattendants in their entire
career stop flying altogetherTurbulence done.
I mean it is violent and Idon't care how big and strong
you are and all that stuff.
I mean turbulence will throwyou around like a rag doll Like

(01:09:29):
a freaking rag doll man.
You have zero control.
You think you're?
Oh, I'm working, I'm a musclebodybuilder, I'm going to do it.
They'll splat your ass on topof that ceiling in a second.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
And if you ever see people, especially when you're
going through this severeturbulence, the first thing they
start doing is praying to God.
Yeah, because I mean, theyreally do.
They think it's the end.
I mean, you know, and that'strue too.
That's the way it is this iscrazy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Yeah, my, the biggest annoyance for me for this thing
is the uh families that areholding the baby that don't have
their seatbelt on right.
I'm like you know, the baby hasno say right right, it's like
and the flight attendants aredoing, we're their mouths and
you know like we're theirspokesperson.
Like mom, dad, fasten your damnseatbelt when you're holding
the kid.
You're not going to be able tohold them in the first place If
it happens, but at the same timethey at least have a chance.

(01:10:21):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
But make sure the seatbelt just goes around you
and not you and the kid, right.
So make sure that it just goesaround you and you're holding on
to the kid Because you don'twant the kid in the seatbelt in
front of you, because thatseatbelt won't give and your
weight's going to go right inthat child and that child's
going to go against thatseatbelt and it's going to get
hurt bad.
So again, seatbelt just aroundyou.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Just around you, man.
Yep, All right man, this is agood show man.
Let's wrap up and talk aboutour quote.
What's the quote?

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
When life gives you a hundred reasons to break down
and cry, show life that you havea million reasons to smile and
laugh.
Stay strong.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Yes, sir, that is a good quote man.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
All right guys.
Hey, we had a great time thisweek, you guys have a great week
and we will see you next weekon Cabin Pressure.
Yeah, man.

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