When Your Career Takes a Left Turn at Albuquerque

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Ever wondered what happens when life takes you on a completely unexpected journey? In this anniversary episode of Cabin Pressure, Shawn and G reflect on their 54-episode milestone while exploring how neither of them ever imagined becoming flight attendants. Their candid conversation about career trajectories offers a refreshing reminder that it's perfectly okay not to have your entire life mapped out.

Shawn takes us into the fascinating world of artificial intelligence, explaining how AI agents will soon revolutionize our daily lives beyond what tools like ChatGPT currently offer. Meanwhile, G shares stories about encountering genuinely kind passengers, including a touching moment with a Vietnam veteran that provides perspective on the challenges previous generations faced.

The hosts don't hold back when addressing passenger behaviors that drive flight attendants crazy - from people who expect free upgrades to premium economy seats ("This ain't a bus!") to travelers who dangerously retrieve luggage during emergency evacuations. Their frustration with the FAA suggesting more evacuation training for flight attendants rather than holding passengers accountable speaks to broader issues in the industry.

Some of the episode's most enlightening moments come when they discuss airport security dynamics, explaining why flight crews sometimes need to cut in line and asking for passenger understanding. Their behind-the-scenes perspective on everything from airport food placement to the realities of in-flight evacuations gives listeners valuable insight into the aviation world.

Through humor and authentic conversation, Shawn and G remind us that persistence matters more than perfection. As they put it, "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop." Whether you're a frequent flyer, someone navigating career uncertainty, or just enjoy candid conversation, this episode delivers wisdom wrapped in laughter.

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_00 (00:01):
Do you have an AI agent?
Why do flight crews get to cutin line with security?
Take your headphones off, oryou're not getting a drink.
All this next on cabin pressurewith Sean on MG.

SPEAKER_01 (00:38):
Hey everyone, welcome.
This is Cabin Pressure.

SPEAKER_00 (00:43):
It's Sean.
What's up, man?

SPEAKER_01 (00:48):
Nothing, man.

SPEAKER_00 (00:49):
What's going on with you?
We are, dude.
I am like I'm a chicken with itshead cut off running around this
freaking world right now.
I got so much shit going on.
Your deck's done, though.
Yeah, my deck is done.
No more pounding on episodes, sowe ain't got nobody in the
background and all that stuff.
Everything should be cool andclean and he's got a sweet
looking deck.

(01:09):
Yeah.
The deck turned out so nice.
Although my wife doesn't seemlike it's done yet.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18):
Because we we talked about this in the other podcast.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21):
Yeah.
Like, like it's great.
Like she sees this finishedproduct and everything, and then
she's looking at the structureunderneath the deck.
And so it's natural wood.
And so now she's like, itdoesn't look finished.

SPEAKER_01 (01:35):
Remember, we talked about that every single time.
It's like, hey, what'd you thinkabout this?
It looks good, but um, yeah, itis it's not finished.

SPEAKER_00 (01:44):
Yeah.
And I'm and she's like, well,everybody else has theirs
painted, or everybody else hastheir that looks finished.
Yeah.
And I'm like, why does ours looklike that?
Yeah, I'm like, like, I'mbuilding a maintenance-free
deck.

SPEAKER_01 (01:58):
And this thing is sweet.
It really is.

SPEAKER_00 (02:00):
You don't want to paint wood because what happens
to paint on wood, it eventuallypeels and cracks, and you have
to repaint it.
And so I don't want any moremaintenance for the rest of my
life.
And pressured wood, you don'thave to do anything to it.

SPEAKER_01 (02:14):
Yeah, but like the wash.
Like I was telling her though,down a lot of times below decks.
You know, people that have thedecks that overlook on the ocean
and everything.
Yeah.
So when you get it underneathit, it's it's rustic.

unknown (02:25):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (02:25):
I mean, all the decks underneath are natural
wood, but normally like they'relower to the ground.
But like ours, it's you know, ariser of a deck, like a first
level.

SPEAKER_01 (02:35):
So you still those, it's it's by water.
You get your your uh your patioareas rustic looking.
I think it looks just fine.

SPEAKER_00 (02:42):
And that's what she looked at natural wood before,
but she was like, Well, it wasnatural wood on top.
So it matched.
It's it's okay.

unknown (02:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (02:52):
You knew that was coming.
Oh, dead.
You knew it was coming.
It's not gonna get painted.
I bet you I bet you sometime weget she has you put a cap on it,
though.

SPEAKER_00 (03:03):
Maybe, who knows?
I have no idea.
But it does look really good.
You know what I did?
I was we went over to Indianalast week, and um one of uh the
family friends over there, um,she used to come here like every
year, and this weekend becausethe Ryder Cup's getting ready to
happen.
I mean, Ryder Cup is like a bigdeal in the family because we're
all golfers and all that stuff.

(03:24):
So we all watch this thing, andlike last year I went to, or the
last Ryder Cup that was in theUS, I went to, which was four
years ago or whatever.
And it is so much fun, it's alllike USA, like every it's what
you want like America to be.
Like you get there, and itdoesn't matter what politics you
got going on, everybody's forthe US, you know, and it's like

(03:46):
they're chanting U, S hey, you,you know, and then the Europeans
are like ole, oh, yeah, youknow, like it's crazy, you know.
It's it's so much fun to watch,so you should watch it.
But anyways, so this friend ofmine that we visited, she's a
hundred and two years old.
Really?
A hundred and two.
I'm gonna show you the pictureof her.

(04:08):
She's like this little ittybitty thing, and bless her
heart, she is the sweetestlittle thing.
And at 102, she is able to likewe can sit there and have a
conversation with her.
Um, you know, she's a littlebit, you know, she has hearing
aid, so she has a little hardtime some hearing, and sometimes
she doesn't like quite followthe whole thing, and she'll ask
a question or whatever, but uhbut for damn 102, dude?

(04:31):
Yeah, me and you won't be here.
No, no, no, we triple digits arenot in our future.
Nope.
And if I was at her condition,like I'd be like, okay, to get
there, I'm not bad, becauseshe's like still living with her
daughter and she's got a goodyou know quality of life and all
that stuff, but she's got cancerfor the second time.

(04:53):
I think no for the third time inher life, and she's going
through like radiation treatmentright now at 102.

SPEAKER_01 (05:01):
You know, do you ever think about that about
getting older, right?
Because we're we're gettingthere, we're heading that
direction.

SPEAKER_00 (05:07):
Yeah, we're all going in that direction.

SPEAKER_01 (05:09):
So when you're you're thinking about it, you
start thinking, hmm, how long doyou actually want to be here?

SPEAKER_00 (05:14):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (05:14):
As long as you can function, as long as I'm
functioning, I I want to behere.

SPEAKER_00 (05:18):
There's certain states because I've been around
this so much lately, and like I,you know, God bless all the
people out there that work withold people because old people
are cool until you know humansget nasty in the end.

SPEAKER_01 (05:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (05:34):
You know, we all turn into babies again.
You're right back to somebodywiping your ass.
You know, see, that's the partthat I was saying.
Exactly.
Like it's like like there's likeyou get stinky again, you're
like, you need to be cleaned up.
Like it's just that's the partthat I don't want to get to.
And this lady right here, she's102, and she's not there.
Right.
Like she's still doing her ownthing.

(05:54):
Yeah, it's awesome, man.

SPEAKER_01 (05:56):
But you go to a lot of these homes, though, and
there's no guys.

SPEAKER_00 (05:59):
Yeah, there's very few guys.
They're dead.
It's all mo mainly women.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (06:05):
So it's we're not making 102.

SPEAKER_00 (06:08):
No, 101 ain't happening.
But speaking on the otherspectrum of age, my niece, we
went out there and uh it was herbirthday, and uh shout out to
Reagan.
She's she didn't she's nevergonna be watching, listen, in
our show.
Uh, these are this is too adult.
But uh we took her to this likeindoor amusement park and

(06:28):
everything, and we got there andshe's running around the place
and having a great time.
And we take her in the she's inthis like jumble gym thing that
they you know climb around andall this stuff.
Next thing you know, we look upand she's like laying in like
this area that's like a netarea, and she's like like going
to sleep.
And we're like, what's up withReagan?
Like, that's not right.
And so she's like her mom'slike, okay, blah, blah, blah,

(06:50):
get down here, let's let's talk.
And ends up, she wasn't feelingwell, and they take her to the
urgy care right away because thenext day is like this big
birthday she's having with allthe kids are coming and all this
stuff.
Ends up she's got strep throat.
Dude.
Do you know how many timesJackson got strep throat?

SPEAKER_01 (07:06):
When they get to a certain age, it's like it's like
every other week they get thatshit.

SPEAKER_00 (07:11):
It was unbelievable.
And then next day at her party,she got hoarse and all this
stuff, and you know, they gother antibiotics, and they it was
okay for her to be around kidsand stuff, but when the when the
kids that are a certain age,right?

SPEAKER_01 (07:24):
They I'm I'm telling you, to get to school, they'll
catch everything.

SPEAKER_00 (07:27):
Yeah, everything they're little they're little
germ bugs, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (07:30):
They but their immune system builds from it,
yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (07:33):
So I mean it's not bad.
It's important to for all thatstuff to happen to build your
immune system, but uh yeah, andthese kids are always sick, but
it was a it was a good time.
We had a good time at the thing,and she came back, literally
went to the clinic, came back,and as soon as he gave that
antibiotics and a little bit ofprobably Tylenol or something
like that, she was like, she wasrunning around the place again,
you know, like it was crazy.

(07:54):
Anyways, man, I I'm you know,I'm still going to school, and
um, I've been studying all thisAI stuff.
I mean, I'm and when I saystudying AI, I'm talking about I
have a whole list of AI thingsthat people probably have never
way beyond chat GPT, way beyondlike uh Gemini.
Like, there's all kinds of AIengines out there in the

(08:16):
universe that we are unaware of.
Most people are unaware of.
And each one does somethingdifferent.
And we got to talking about likethis whole class is about career
trajectory, and so you aretrying to figure out where you
are gonna go.
And so I got to thinking aboutthis, and I was like, you know
what?

(08:37):
What was G's career trajectory?
Like, what where where did hesee himself when he was 20 years
old?
Me?

unknown (08:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (08:48):
Well, when I went to school, uh first started off
with uh marketing andadvertising because I was always
good in sales.
Right.
So anything with sales, I wasgood with so I started off that
and then I got bored withschool.
Right.
I did.
I mean, I I can honestly say Igot bored with school and and I
realized that uh it wasn't forme.
And and I went out and I waslike started uh heading out in

(09:11):
the world, man.
And after that, but did you havelike a goal?

SPEAKER_00 (09:14):
Like, did you have like like thinking like
initially, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (09:17):
Initially I did.

SPEAKER_00 (09:18):
So what was that goal?

SPEAKER_01 (09:19):
It was it was getting to the really same
thing.
Go out, get a good job uh fromyour education, and then uh and
then just build a future.
That was it.
I don't think really, you know,I when you're younger, I don't I
don't think anybody really putsyou on a path, right?

SPEAKER_00 (09:34):
Some some kids do, but well, I mean, like so so
some kids, you know, we alwayslike the classic thing, you
know, what do you want to growup to be at?
I want to be a nurse, I want tobe a doctor, I want to be a
dentist, you know, it was noneof that.
That's that's what my questionis.
Like, did you have like therewas actually a goal?
And so I'm listening to allthese people in the class that
I'm in, and they're talkingabout you know what they would
like to do.

(09:54):
But the interesting thing aboutlife is this everybody that's on
this path, no matter if youwanted to be like a dentist or a
doctor or you know, a lawyer orwhatever you wanted to be, and
life might not take you there.
You know, there's very fewpeople that I know that have
like started off as an I'm gonnabe this and actually does it.

(10:16):
There's a there's there's peoplethere's people that do it, but
but life takes you in all thiswild rides.

SPEAKER_01 (10:23):
Yeah, I took I took the left turn at Albuquerque, by
the way.
I mean, so trust me.

SPEAKER_00 (10:29):
I know you're sitting here with me.
What the fuck?

SPEAKER_01 (10:31):
But you know, going back, I mean, when I think of
everything where I was at inschool, right?
And then I just one day I I'mnot kidding.
I came home.
I I think I had like 670 somedollars to my name.

SPEAKER_00 (10:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (10:43):
I packed my shit up.
I had used to have a little 76Camaro.
Remember those little fastbackones?

SPEAKER_00 (10:48):
Cool.

SPEAKER_01 (10:49):
I packed that shit up.
I had an old waterbed, took thatdown, and and I told my mom I
was moving to Florida.
There you go.
She thought I was kidding.
I was like, no, I just and I hadno idea where I was gonna live,
had no really no money.
I just packed the shit up.
I knew I knew college wasn't forme anymore, so I just packed it
up and I drove that shit down toFlorida.

SPEAKER_00 (11:08):
Ended up in Clearwater, Florida.
That's amazing.
See, and that and you know,like, so I would have never in
my wildest dreams ever thoughtI'd be a flight attendant.
No, that me neither.
Like, you know, that's what I'msaying.
Like, our career trajectory isnot wasn't like I didn't even
dream about this job, I didn'teven think about the job, the
job wasn't even on my radar.

(11:29):
Right.
But life took us to thispassword, boom, here we are, and
we've we both put in 30 plusyears of doing this job, and
it's just it's just wild to likekind of think back.
But here's my point to the thingis that listen, if you're
listening to this and you'rethinking about, you know, you're
young and you're trying to doyour job and you're trying to
figure out what I want to do inthe future and everything.

(11:50):
Well, guess what?
It's okay not to know.

SPEAKER_01 (11:54):
We don't know shit.

SPEAKER_00 (11:55):
Yeah, we don't know.
Yeah, it's okay not to know.

SPEAKER_01 (11:58):
It is, it really is.

SPEAKER_00 (12:00):
Because you're gonna fail, you know.
Have you been fired from a jobever, G?
No.
I got fired from a job before.
Like it's gonna happen.
Like it's it's you the best partabout the the thing is is all
about you actually recovering.
You actually be able to get backon that horse again, get out

(12:21):
there and prove yourself.
It's your work ethic.

SPEAKER_01 (12:24):
You you can you can go um you you can go and you can
fail a thousand times, right?
So long as you get up a thousandand one.
Right.
That's all that matters.
Because exactly what you'resaying.
I mean, I I joked around when Isaid left turn out Albuquerque,
but it's true because I I when Iwhen I decided to leave, I'm
like, okay, I I already had topay for this some of the

(12:46):
education.
Right.
And then I just packed up and Ileft, and and next thing I know,
I'm down there, and I was downin Clearwater, and and next
thing you know, I am at aconstruction site getting a job,
working on a a building frame ina building in like a week.
Right.
And that was it.
And then I started doing that,waiting tables, and then um,
yeah, how how I end up being adamn flight attendant, it all it

(13:10):
all came down to they told methere'd be a bunch of girls
there.

SPEAKER_00 (13:14):
Really?
And so you just decided I'mgonna apply for this?
Yeah.
There you go.
Dude, hey, they were right.
That is what life is about.
I mean, you don't know wherelife's gonna take you, and I
will tell everyone out therethat it doesn't really matter
where what's happening, you'regonna uh you're gonna have those
ups and your downs andeverything.

(13:34):
God's got a mission for you.
Yep.
Okay, and that trajectory isgonna happen no matter if you
like it or not, you know?
And so you need to just, youknow, keep going.

SPEAKER_01 (13:46):
A year before we started doing this, we had never
done this before.
You know, this is so a far outof the our especially my
spectrum.

SPEAKER_00 (13:55):
Nah, this is way out of your wheelhouse.
I mean, the the technology partfor me is like, yeah, that's uh
that's not out of my spectrum,but it's like I know G was like
before we started doing thiswhole thing, G had like been
talking to me for two yearsabout G will talk to me about
all kinds of shit.
Like, we we should do this andwe should do that.

(14:17):
He's an idea guy, he comes upwith the ideas and all this
stuff, but he doesn't like toexecute all the time, and so he
was talking about this.
We need to do this, we need todo this, we should go into
business doing this, we shouldbe doing, but podcasts are
always coming up, and finally Iwas like, shitter give it off
the pot.
We need to do this.
You put your money where yourmouth is, and let's make it
happen.

SPEAKER_01 (14:37):
But what he forgot to tell you too is years ago
when he sits there and says, Igot all these ideas.
Let me tell you something.
I'm I might have these ideas,but anytime that me and him did
something together, whathappened?

SPEAKER_00 (14:48):
We we did it well and succeeded, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (14:51):
We succeeded at it.

SPEAKER_00 (14:52):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (14:52):
And it's just like this when we knew when we were
starting this, we knew we wedidn't know what the hell we
were doing.
Yeah, right?
No, and all we knew is that wewere gonna get we're gonna get
better.

SPEAKER_00 (15:01):
Yeah, we're gonna work at it.
We're gonna get better and we'regonna work at it.

SPEAKER_01 (15:04):
So your trajectory is is you're right.
It doesn't matter where youstart, it only matters where you
finish up.

SPEAKER_00 (15:09):
Yeah, where well matters it also the journey
matters of you to not give up.
Yeah, just continue to try todo, and you're gonna get kicked
and fall down and all thatstuff, and life's gonna take you
in different places, but giveback on that horse and keep
going.
Anyhow, the other part of thisclass I'm taking was really

(15:30):
interesting because there'ssomething out there that is
happening in the world thatpeople don't really understand
that's happening so fast andit's gonna hit us like a storm.
And that is have you ever heardof AI agents?
No.
So AI agents are what you wouldcall a an electronic personal

(15:55):
helper.
And it's coming.
And they're and and the closestexample I could tell you right
now is like a Surrey.

SPEAKER_01 (16:03):
I was gonna say, just like a Surrey, right?
Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 (16:05):
But you we're gonna have this in in abundance here
coming soon.
Like this is this is justhappening.
The Lexas, the Surreys, and manymore to come, people are gonna
have their own assistance withAIs where I can go in there and
literally I could give a wholetask of stuff to do.
Surrey.

(16:25):
I need this bill paid, I needthis done, I need XYZ, you know,
I need you know, make sure youturn on the um the water
sprinklers, make you do all thatshit's getting ready to come in.
It's gonna be a crazy, crazyworld.
But people are getting thesethings called AI agents, which
is like your own personalSurrey.

(16:46):
Pretty wild, right?

SPEAKER_01 (16:47):
What do you think about that?
I want to get you the AI agentthat goes, do it your damn self,
Sean.
Right?
I could imagine you give thisall like, hey, you know, do
this, do this, do this.
Are you gonna do anything?
I don't need a sarcastic AIagent.
Remember, you don't know Jack?
Yeah, you don't know Jack.
I was like, I'm sitting therethinking, give a smart ass AI

(17:08):
agent would be hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 (17:10):
Right.
It had the you don't know Jackuh attitude type of thing.
Exactly.
Give these like wise cracks andstuff like that.
But yeah, the the interestingthing is that like they we
started talking about this wholething, and um there's so much
stuff out there with AI rightnow, and people are like really
like and I'm I'm scared thatthese kids are really buying
into it because they they latchonto it, and what happens is the

(17:34):
um like Chat GPT, right?
They're going in there andthey're they'll like do their
homework with it, right?
And they just cut and paste andput it in there and they
shouldn't be using it that way.
It's okay to use Chat GPT tolike look up and use it as kind
of like a source of information,but the problem with Chat GPT

(17:54):
right now is that he's like, youknow that friend that you had or
somebody that you encounter inyour life, and no matter what
you ask them, they're gonna comeup with an answer, right?
And they're just gonna give youa bullshit answer.
And you don't know if it'sbullshit, but they're just like
they're playing it.

SPEAKER_01 (18:09):
Adjust it a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 (18:10):
Well, guess what?
AI does that.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (18:12):
Well, especially if it depends on how you're asking
it.
Right.
Right?
I mean, because I mean thatthat's what I found out with AI
too.
It's how you ask something.

SPEAKER_00 (18:21):
Yeah.
The prompting of AI is the mostimportant, and what you're gonna
find is that people are gonnabecome expert prompters, right?
Understanding how to guide theseAI agents to get you to do the
correct things, and it's reallycool.
The more you practice at it, andmore you do it, it does do a lot
of cool stuff.
But there's a lot of deep fakeshit out there, and so what's

(18:43):
happening is and it's wild, likewe were doing this whole
exercise where we're using theone and they were creating
videos.
So I like had them do this wholething about creating an intro
for our show, and so next thingyou know, it was like this Pixar
show, and this guy's likecarrying around a plane on his
shoulder.
It was a weird thing, and thenall the like in all the writing

(19:03):
in the in the video was lookedlike it was like in like uh like
Soviet Union or something likethat.
It was it didn't look likeEnglish, it was like a few
letters looking like it wasEnglish context, but rest of it
was all gibberish, and that'swhat AI is not good at right
now.
They can't like you can put thatsay this on the sign and it will
misspell it.

(19:24):
Like the the first thing theywere really bad about is like
making pictures of humans oranybody, and you're like, oh,
make a family holding uh, youknow, you know, all at a picnic,
and then you'd see the familythere, and like half of them
would have like six fingers.

SPEAKER_01 (19:37):
But you know, that's the AI that's available to us.
True.
I mean, there there's a lot ofAI that we don't we don't have
this.

SPEAKER_00 (19:45):
Well, AI, that's why I was back to the beginning
where I'm like, there's allthese different AI engines,
right?
And yeah, there's ones that arespecific to other um levels of
you know experimentation andstuff, but there's so many more,
like there's the public agentsthat are out there.
Uh it's unbelievable.
Yeah, it's like they're you ifyou start looking and you start
Googling and finding out howmany AI agents are there, or how

(20:07):
many AI uh platforms are there,and ones that do different
things, they're very specific onwhat they can do.
Like, there's ones that do justspecifically coding, or there's
ones that do just art, andthere's one that just does
writing, you know, like so youhave to like plug into the right
one.
Chat GPT is is the one that'skind of like a kind of general
overall, but it's superinteresting.

(20:28):
I mean, I can go on and ontalking about AI stuff, but
that's what I've been doing,man.

SPEAKER_01 (20:34):
It's a lot of fun, though.
I mean, you know, all that newtechnology is a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_00 (20:38):
Yeah, you know what?
Uh before we before we go on,you know what?
It's our anniversary.
Yeah, I know.
Last week was our anniversary.

SPEAKER_01 (20:45):
We kind of missed it.
We missed it.
You missed our anniversary,Sean.

SPEAKER_00 (20:48):
Now I know we're so wound up.
I'm leaving.
Yeah.
Well, hey, me and my wife, wewe're almost the same way.
Sometimes you wake up and did Imiss it?
Did was it like how many yearswas it?
Has it been?

SPEAKER_01 (21:00):
Well, we just get used to coming in here and just
sitting down and talking.

SPEAKER_00 (21:03):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (21:04):
So, I mean, we really didn't think about the
anniversary.

SPEAKER_00 (21:06):
No, but you know what?
To to our um accolades, 54episodes is in the books.
We did every week.
We committed to doing this show,and no matter what, we always we
we we made the mark, right?

SPEAKER_01 (21:23):
And we're coming up on 7,500 downloads, right?

SPEAKER_00 (21:26):
That's getting ready to happen in any day.
That's that is like it's goinggood.

SPEAKER_01 (21:31):
It's gonna be fun when it's gonna be.
I'm looking forward to video.
Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
They'll be able to see ourreactions, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (21:36):
They'll be able to see our knuckleheads.
Yeah, hopefully we're not theugly guys behind the voice on
radio.
Oh, you ugly.

unknown (21:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (21:47):
Have you ever done that like on a radio station?
You get talking to a show, youknow, listen to a show.
Yeah, you're like, that guy'sgot to be.
And you're like, you're like,man, I wonder what these people
look like.
And you look them up and you'relike, Oh, damn.
Damn.
Like he looks like one of themonsters on Monsters Inc.

SPEAKER_01 (22:00):
I'm not even listening anymore.
Yeah, hopefully that's not us.

SPEAKER_00 (22:05):
It's like the uh nerdiest dude that has the
coolest, deepest voice.

SPEAKER_01 (22:09):
They'll be like, Yeah, go back to audio.

SPEAKER_00 (22:10):
Right, right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Video's not for you, but I hopewe're not that way, but we'll
see.
Doesn't matter, we're gonnathrow it at him.

SPEAKER_01 (22:19):
Well, happy anniversary.

SPEAKER_00 (22:21):
Yeah, happy anniversary, G.
Anyhow, gee man, what have youbeen doing?

SPEAKER_01 (22:25):
All right, just gonna talk a little bit about a
Yorkie's love.
You guys know that I have aYorkie.
Well, Gemma is has been the lastweek, oh my gosh, she has been
probably three o'clock in themorning.
She gets this wild hair, and shehas all this love that she wants
to give.
So she'll crawl up on my neck,starts rubbing on me, wants me

(22:47):
to rub her.
She does this for like 15minutes.
Now, if you know my relationshipwith that little dog is this
now, the rest of the 23 hoursand 45 minutes of the day, she
will not let me pick her ass up.
Really?

SPEAKER_00 (23:04):
Oh, so she's like, she's like, oh, let me give some
love.
Pops, what how you uh you're sonice to me.
Thank you for so much for makingme my food.
Yeah, exactly.
And all this stuff.
All right.

SPEAKER_01 (23:17):
You've never seen I'm I'm true.
You've now away from me, Jimmy.
You have not seen anything likeit.
As soon as she gets her 15, 20minutes in, she'll go back and
then she'll lay down.
Now, for the rest of the 23hours and 45 minutes, she'll
look at me and she'll all shewants to do is play.
Get a damn ball, get a rope,whatever it is, whatever it is,
she gets this thing, and then weplay tug of war, and then she

(23:38):
will come at me like a damnlittle doberman.
But for those 15 or 20 minutes,that she does it at 3 o'clock in
the morning.
Oh no.
At 3 a.m.
No, you can't, and you can't getmad.
You can't.
No, you can't.

SPEAKER_00 (23:51):
I you know something I might have like an involuntary
reaction of like flicking my armand she goes flying across the
room.
Jimmy ain't nothing but like thesize of a lot of baseball.

SPEAKER_01 (24:01):
No, I can't get mad, man.
I I actually appreciate thatthat 15 or 20 minutes of her
little love.
And then I'm like, okay, it'sback to normal.
There she is.
Yeah, but no, and then this weekI had this um this elderly
couple.
They came on the plane.
Um, he was a Vietnam vet, anduh, and this woman, I had taken
him down to Lauderdale.
They went on a um a cruise onCelebrity, and what a nice

(24:24):
couple.
I mean, it's so refreshing whenyou get these people that are so
sweet, and they're elderly, youknow, they appreciate every
little thing that you do.
And I walked her, we we walkeduh hand in hand because they
didn't have the wheelchair, andum, you know, her husband was
put in the wheelchair and he wasa Vietnam vet, and we walked up
and we were just talking.
It's so nice, you know, talkingto these elderly people.

(24:47):
There's such so many wonderfulpeople in the world.
And, you know, and you look athim, you think of how many years
and what they went through.
And you think of him too, right?
Because he was he was a he was ablack gentleman, but you know,
and you think, what was it likefor him in Vietnam?
You know, being back in a war, Imean, you really, I mean, you
think about that.
I mean, and and I think aboutwhen he was young going back and

(25:09):
and being sent to Vietnam.

SPEAKER_00 (25:11):
Think about think about this, but like you're a
young um teenager that um youget thrown into a cesspool of
humans coming from all walks oflife, and there is a huge
faction of people there thathate you just because of the
color of your skin.

(25:31):
Right.
Okay, and you have to are forcedto get along with them because
this is the guy that'sprotecting your back.

SPEAKER_02 (25:40):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (25:41):
You know, and you know, in the military one, you
know, racism and all that stuffgoes out the window real quick
because when you start thinkingabout life and death, and you
know, the only way I'm gonnasurvive is with the guy next to
me.
Right.
Like that that's some that'ssome crazy shit.

SPEAKER_01 (25:58):
And that's exactly what I was thinking about, is
like what he went through backback then in Vietnam.
And this guy was incredible.
And then his wife was so she wasso warm, and and you know, and
and like I said, we gave alittle hug and uh and then they
went on your way.
But then the other part thatthat pisses me off is like, you
know, when you get these umthese wheelchair people, they

(26:20):
don't shouldn't show up.

unknown (26:21):
Right?

SPEAKER_01 (26:22):
The wheelchair helpers?
Yeah, they don't show up.
Yeah, you get like one or two ofthem, and then you got these
elderly people you want to youwanna help them out, but then
they they don't show up.

SPEAKER_00 (26:30):
Yeah, that's the wor that's the worst when you have
to have a uh you have to wait.
Right.
You know, like you're waitingfor some of the assistance when
we know we're scheduled and allthat stuff.
And you know, today'stechnology, like all that stuff
is fed.
We know it's all ahead of timeand they know exactly what it
is.
We got readouts and all thisstuff.
It's in everybody's computers,but nobody shows up.

SPEAKER_01 (26:50):
Right.
And I'm touching on this uh oneagain because again, happened in
the terminal uh again this week.
You guys, when you're talking onyour phones and you're walking,
pay attention because looksomebody not step out of the
way.
Damn, you know, it's like you'reI'm behind them.
I'm trying to, you know how youtry to shoot the gap.
Right.
And you see them, they'rewalking at an angle, and then

(27:10):
they walk right into you andthey act like it was your fault.

SPEAKER_00 (27:14):
Dude.

SPEAKER_01 (27:15):
It it it just it's just irritating.

SPEAKER_00 (27:17):
I know.
Well, you know, you don't evenhave to be on the phone.
You have those people with thosecrooked walkers, right?
But these guys were on the phonecrooked walking.
Like they they literally likethey have a like their their
walk canceled to the left alittle bit, and they just keep
on sliding and sliding andsliding, and you're trying to
walk right around them, andyou're getting wider and wider
and wider.
You're like a tractor beam.

SPEAKER_01 (27:38):
Right.
It's like a tractor beam, it'slike they're coming right at
you.
Unbelievable, man.
But you know, this week, thisweek had to talk about this.
Did you do you uh you've noticedthat there's been a lot more
evacuations?
Yeah, oh yeah.
Okay, that's been going on inthe industry, all over the
world.
Right.
But you the plane evacuations, Imean, it's gone up quite a bit.

SPEAKER_00 (27:57):
Dude, this isn't this is the crazy thing.
The um you uh, you know, it canhappen at any time.
Like yesterday, like yesterday,well like today.
I flew today, went down to uh wewhere did I go today?
Oh, I did a triangle today.
I'm so I get so tired I can'teven remember what I did today.

SPEAKER_01 (28:17):
You had to work.
Yeah, I had to actually work.

SPEAKER_00 (28:19):
I got up at 2 45 this morning and I flew over to
Dallas and down to Orlando andback up to Cleveland.
And then um the day before,though, we hit some turbulence,
man.
You've been have you been havingturbulence?
Quite a bit.
But we were floating, dude.
Yeah, and float for a while.
Like I was like, we were hittingit, and all of a sudden it was
like, whoa, and I'm like, okay,done.

(28:43):
I'm done.
Strap in.
I'm out.
I'm strapping in.
I'm like, as soon as we startgetting that floating sensation,
I'm gonna be sitting down forsure.
Like, you don't even want to bethere to that situation.
But it was, you know, peoplestill know seat belts and
passing and stupid stuff.

SPEAKER_01 (29:01):
But but what's been going on in the last uh the last
couple weeks is that they'vebeen having a lot of
evacuations, emergencies thatare on airplanes having to
evacuate could be smoke in thecabin, could be fire, could be
uh any uh any reason of of of uhevacuations.
But what that what killed me wasthe FAA came out and they they

(29:23):
were basically saying that theythey wanted the airlines to give
the flight attendants moretraining on evacuations.

SPEAKER_00 (29:31):
I'm just saying right now, just for every flight
attendant in the world, that'ssome bullshit.
That's bullshit.

SPEAKER_01 (29:36):
That's big bullshit because we're we're we're
trained, we're trained onevacuations.

SPEAKER_00 (29:41):
We evacuate the shit out of airplanes.
We know what we're doing.
Right.
The problem is that alleverybody and all the pastors
out there, they choose not to dothat.
And it and and also here it isthere's a human reaction factor
in that.
I mean, we don't know whereeverybody comes from back comes
from, but Your valuables,whatever you consider your

(30:02):
valuables, are the things thatyou're gonna grab trying to
leave anywhere, right?
That's just uh that's justnormal.
But I mean, to blame that on theflight attendants and that we
need more training to like getthem to not do it, I mean, I get
literally I haven't had toevacuate a plane, but I could
see myself literally somebodycoming around the corner with a

(30:23):
bag and me throwing the bagright out the door and pushing
them out the fucking door.
Oh, yeah.
Like get dude, you're impedingthe bag.

SPEAKER_01 (30:30):
But you know, even even doing that though, Sean,
right, the trying to trying tograb a bag away from someone in
the process of evacuation,right?
You know, slowing everythingdown.
You're you're just getting theirass out of that plane, even if
if they got the bag, they'regoing with it.
Right.
Because it doesn't matter atthat point.
Truthfully, if if that personhas it, what what happens is the

(30:50):
timing that it takes them to getthe bag out of the overhead bin,
which blocks other impedes otherpeople from getting off the
aircraft.
So the the evacuation time isslower.
So what they're doing is thatthey're seeing that the
evacuation time is slower, butthat's internally.
That's inside the airplane.

SPEAKER_00 (31:07):
Yeah, you can't stop them.
The cascade of like the slowdownof traffic, the people that are
at the very end of the ones arethe ones that suffer from the
bigger.

SPEAKER_01 (31:15):
You can't stop them.
You can't do but by the timethey get to us at the door, by
the time they get to us at thedoor, they're going out with the
bag.
Oh, yeah, they're gonna go outwith the bag no matter what.
Because if we pull that bag, allwe're gonna have is a bunch of
freaking bags sticking at thedoor, blocking an exit, and you
know who they're gonna blame atthat point.
Yeah, that would be us.
Yeah, exactly.
So your ass is going out withthe bag.
So that's what was killing me,though, when I was reading this,

(31:36):
and the FAA was saying that theflight attendants need more
training.
No, it doesn't.
What it is is that if there's avideo, if there's a video and
they have a clear shot of yourface getting off with a bag, you
should get fined.

SPEAKER_00 (31:49):
You should find them.

SPEAKER_01 (31:50):
Yeah, because you just jeopardize the lives of
everybody else on the airplanethat if the emergency happens,
you agreed to leave that damnbag and get your ass off the
plane.

SPEAKER_00 (31:58):
And that's the approach that FAA should take in
into the whole thing, because ifthey start finding people when
they're having theseevacuations, because they they
always come from the the pointof like trauma.
So, like, oh, they just wentthrough this whole trauma, we're
not gonna do give more trauma tothem, but they're violating one
of the rules that they've made.
And if they don't enforce thoserules, it's gonna continue to

(32:20):
happen.
But as soon as they starthearing, oh, you know, this
plane evacuated, and 50passengers got fined for taking
bags off the plane, right?
Impeding traffic and everything,but you know, etc.
That's how they enforce it, notnot by retraining us.
Like we're doing and we knowwhat to do.

(32:41):
You know, but we you can't forcesomebody to do something.
We're not enforcers, we'reinformers.

SPEAKER_01 (32:45):
Yeah, and then during an evacuation, if you
really think about it logically,if the person in the last row
tries to get their bag, and theperson in the first row tries to
get their bag, right?
You just 20 25 seconds ofevacuation, you just impeded
that, right?

SPEAKER_00 (33:01):
Well, one of the biggest uh if you look in the
history of like evacuations andstuff, and one of the that
collision that happened with thetwo aircrafts that caught on
fire out in LA, that and this islong, long time ago, and that
was one a perfect example ofwhat had happened.
And the per they had aconfrontation in the cabin

(33:21):
trying to get out, and they werefighting to try to get past each
other and all that stuff, andthey delayed the the evacuation
in this plane on fire for just Ithink it I want to recall, it
was like like five seconds.
That five seconds cost like 13people their lives.
Right.
Because they couldn't get out ofthe exit, they were blocking the

(33:42):
exit because they were arguingover it.
Right, you know, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (33:45):
And it's all internal, it's not the flight
attendants are at at both endsof the airplane, uh gonna
evacuate the airplane.
Okay, you have got to look at ifthese guys get off the plane and
they have their bag, if theyhave their bag, then you you
find them exactly that.
And then and that will take careof it.
Don't don't put that back on theflight attendants because that's
not that's not us.

(34:06):
Because when we go to training,trust me, we evacuate planes.

SPEAKER_00 (34:10):
Right.
We and we don't train with bags.
No, like we had our bags onthere too.
Like there, there's a bags onthere.
I've never heard of a plane, aflight attendant going back and
getting their bags.
You know, like they're neverever in history, right?
You've never seen that.
The flight attendant gets offthe plane, if they're gonna get
off the plane with something,gone.
Only thing we take off thatplane is what?
Safety equipment.
Yeah, right?

(34:31):
We go, we need equipment forwhatever situation we're in.
I'm going into water, hey, we'regonna we might need to go back
and get the raft.
Right.
You know, we might need to goback and get the megaphone or
the transmitters and things likethat.
That's the only thing.

SPEAKER_01 (34:44):
Land evacuation, the only thing I'm gonna grab,
you're gonna grab, is amegaphone.
That's the only thing.
Yeah.
I'm grabbing a megaphone, that'sit.
But you know, what they weresaying, I just think it was
bullshit because you need to goafter the people that are
actually taking the bags becausethey're the ones that that are
impeding the evacuation.
Once they get to the flightattendant at the door, your ass
is going out the door.

SPEAKER_00 (35:03):
Yeah.
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (35:04):
Reevaluate that.

SPEAKER_00 (35:05):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (35:05):
Yeah, you you just need to think about that one
because I think that you'rewrong on that one.
Sure.
But I was flying with this dudethis past week.
He was so damn funny.
And and we were talking about uhBlake.
Black.
You know what his name was?
What's that?
A A Ron.
His was A A Ron.
A A Ron.
That was his name.
He was A A Ron.

(35:27):
A A Ron.
He was getting the biggest kickout of that.
I was calling him A.
A A Ron.
He's from Trinidad.
Oh, yeah.
Did you have an accent?
He does a little bit.
But you know, he was he was hewas really cool.
I I liked flying with him.
We we were getting into theselong conversations.
He had been flying about twoyears, and uh, we were talking
about things about uh, you know,contract negotiations and stuff

(35:48):
like that.
And uh and then he he got intothis conversation about you know
what he did before?
No, he worked um redoing celltowers.
Redoing, like reconditioning orupdating?
Updating.
So he would go up anywhere fromthere they're like smaller ones
150 feet, and then the largerones 300 feet.

(36:10):
Now, could you imagine okay?
Could you imagine gr climbing up300 feet to a cell tower in
Cleveland in the middle ofwinter time?

SPEAKER_00 (36:23):
There's no way it's it's like those guys that like
uh put together those windmillsand stuff, you know, like all
that height stuff for me.
I mean, there's all these safetyprecautions and you're strapped
in and all that stuff, butregardless, man.

SPEAKER_01 (36:36):
I'm talking about the freaking freezing cold.
Could you imagine?
Do you remember a Christmasstory?

SPEAKER_00 (36:40):
I don't do good and cold.

SPEAKER_01 (36:42):
Could you imagine being up there at Christmas
door?
Well, I asked him, I was like,okay, so you're 300 feet up.
It's the middle winter time inCleveland.
What do you do when you got pee?
He goes, he starts laughing.

(37:02):
He was like, he goes, Well, um,well, sometimes you just got to
go in a bottle.
And I'm at 300 feet.
At 300 feet?
Freezing cold?

SPEAKER_00 (37:13):
Yeah.
No, he was pissing in the wind.
That's what he was doing.
Somebody down below somewherewas like, damn, is it raining?

SPEAKER_01 (37:21):
Okay, so yeah, rain.
Now imagine it pouring down asheet and rain 300 feet up
there.
Now imagine that it's blisteringhot, 100 degrees.
No.
Sitting out there.
So we we started talking, we westarted talking about the
difference in the job now.
Because I I always said, asbeing a flight attendant, if it
as at work, right, if you areworking 15% of your day, 85% of

(37:45):
your day, you're kind of justlike, you know, checking on
people.
Yeah right?
But 15% of your day, you'reworking hard, you're you're
you're actually out there, andthe rest of the time, you're
basically it's a maintenanceprogram on a flight, right?
Safety, maintenance, everythinglike that.
Yeah.
And I told him, I said, Did youdid you do that on the cell
tower?
He was like, Oh, hell no.
And I was like, then don'tcomplain.

(38:05):
Yeah, don't complain.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (38:07):
Look at where you could be.

SPEAKER_01 (38:09):
Don't complain because you know, here, here as
a flight attendant, if you'regood at your job, you're only
working like 15, 20% of yourday.

SPEAKER_00 (38:16):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (38:17):
You know that.

SPEAKER_00 (38:17):
His career trajectory um was a good change.
Yeah, no more peeing in thewind.
No more sliding down, climbingdown poles to go poop.

SPEAKER_01 (38:27):
I did ask him that one too.
And he was like, oh no, yougotta come down.

SPEAKER_00 (38:31):
You got you gotta come down for that one.
Right.
No number twos.
No number twos at altitude.
Nope.
But see, in our job, we can dothat.
Yeah.
A mile up.
Right.
At least.
That's bad.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (38:48):
So you know what I noticed too coming through uh
security all the time indifferent airports?
You know it's always on theoutside there.
Outside?
Yeah, like when you come throughsecurity.
Do you ever notice like the thetypes of um little shops that
they have right at right outsideof security?

SPEAKER_00 (39:05):
No.

SPEAKER_01 (39:05):
All unhealthy shit.
Oh.
Yeah.
It is.
You come through there, and thefirst thing you get hit is like
the smell of Cinnabon.

SPEAKER_00 (39:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (39:14):
Right?
Or you get like Annie M's press.

SPEAKER_00 (39:16):
So you're talking about going through security and
from once we get into theairport, like what the airport,
it's normally like you're goinggetting released into like a
food court or something likethat, and most of the airport, a
lot of the airports.

SPEAKER_01 (39:26):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (39:27):
You come in.
It's all shit food.

SPEAKER_01 (39:28):
It's all shit food.
As soon as you come in, it'slike that.
You remember how they used to dothe popcorn?
They blow the smell of popcornin the theaters.
Yeah.
And then so you walk throughsecurity, and the first thing
that you do is like you smellCinnabon.
Over there, there's Dunkin'Donuts.
And then so you get sugar,right?
You get sugar, and then theircoffee is, you know, have you
ever had their coffee?

(39:49):
Cinnabons?
No.
Oh, Dunkin' Donuts, yeah.
Okay, so the cream and sugar.

SPEAKER_00 (39:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (39:55):
So you get sugar on top of sugar, right?

SPEAKER_00 (39:58):
With sugar.
And healthy.
Healthy.
I'm just I don't think anybodygoing there is saying, can I get
a healthy cup of Joe?

SPEAKER_01 (40:09):
No, but it's like that everywhere.
I was walking through this uhthis airport the other day.
Smash burger.

SPEAKER_00 (40:16):
Yeah.
All of the all the plants, youknow what?
Like all the food.
First of all, we're Americansand we are in these this death
trap right now of terrible fastfood, right?
Like fast food is everywhere.
Like here in our city, they gotin our little tiny town, north,

(40:37):
south, and east, on every roadleaving out of the city, there's
a taco bell.
Like, are you kidding me?
Yeah.
Like, how many taco bells do youneed in one little tiny town?
You know, there's two, there'sthree McDonald's on each one of
those exits as well.
Do you still eat Taco Bell?
Dude, I can't, man.

SPEAKER_01 (40:59):
I don't even think that's real.
That shit is not good.

SPEAKER_00 (41:03):
I'm serious.
Like, before I before I do acolonoscopy, I just go to Taco
Bell.
That's true.
This shit will clean you out.
Oh, dude.
And when I was young and stuff,it was like it.
I guess my stomach could takethat.
But now that I'm old, man, it'slike literally, it's like
everything that goes in iscoming out south.
Yeah, it should be like it'sgoing south.

(41:23):
Yeah.
Taco Marillax or something likeit.
It's going south.
Burrito marillax.
Something.
Terrible.

SPEAKER_01 (41:33):
I was going through TSA the other day.
And um, you know, this otherthing, you guys as passengers,
don't get mad at the at the TSAagent when your ass comes into
the pre-check line and you'reyou're not uh pre-check.
Yeah, you're not don't get madat him.

SPEAKER_00 (41:49):
I'm just I just want to say don't get mad at him
because it cacks me up thatpeople do that.
Yeah, they do that all the time.
Like, what?
I have to walk to this othersecurity.
Well, you don't got amembership.
Exactly.
You're in the short line.
There's a reason why it's short.
Yeah, all these people paid toget the membership, you didn't
pay.
Right.
Yeah.
And then just because you'reconfused and went in the wrong

(42:09):
entrance doesn't mean you get tocome in.
Okay, now I'm gonna follow up onthat.

SPEAKER_01 (42:13):
Now, in pre-check, okay, in pre-check, if you
wonder why that flight attendantand those crews are cutting in
security line.
If you wonder why, yeah, becauseyou know you get the attitude.
You sure I got it just the otherday, and and I know I I get it.
You're you're pissed, you had tostand there, but this is our
job.

(42:33):
And the only reason, the onlyreason that we are there is
because we got random.
Yep, and that happens.
So we we try to go through knowncrew member, but what happens is
just like everyone else, we getrandom, and we get random, we
have to go through throughsecurity, and they give us a
right to cut in line.
And we and we we want to do itfast.

(42:54):
Yeah, we don't want to be mean.

SPEAKER_00 (42:55):
Can you imagine having this job?
Like we didn't have thoserights.
Nope.
And then we had to go and cometo work every day.
Every flight would be late.
We didn't know what how long thelines are that day, or what's
happening, or how the volume ofpastures we're gonna have that
day.
And we get there and we had towait in like an hour, hour and a

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half line, three hours,whatever.
Like, can you imagine how manyplanes would be delayed?

SPEAKER_01 (43:23):
Tell you, I mean, just what um the other day, a
couple of the pilots uh were inthe um there was an accident on
71.
They were they were backed up in71.
Yeah, flight was delayed an hourand a half.
So if you think that that's bad,you put flat one flight
attendant at the front ofsecurity, one in the middle, and
one in the back with the pilotsin the back, your ass ain't

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going nowhere.

SPEAKER_00 (43:44):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (43:45):
Right?
So just don't get mad.
I mean, we're not doing itbecause we're we're trying to be
rude.

SPEAKER_00 (43:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (43:51):
It's just that we gotta get we gotta get to the
plane, we gotta get there andget shit done so you guys can uh
so these planes can get out ontime.

SPEAKER_00 (43:57):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (43:57):
So just don't get mad.
I mean, that I just caught alittle bit of an attitude this
last week.
That's all right.
I catch it every once in awhile.

SPEAKER_00 (44:04):
Uh well, you don't you don't ever give them that
big, you know, you walk up tothem and like, excuse me.
You know, like hello, um, crew.

SPEAKER_01 (44:14):
No, stand back.
You don't give them that?
No, I give them, hey, hey guys,I'm sorry, but I have to jump in
there.
Are you okay with that?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, that's fine.
Right?
And they're like, they lookthere, and then the one is like,
I don't say anything.

SPEAKER_00 (44:26):
I kind of just give them an elbow.
Do you?
Well, you know, when I want to.
That's the only time I can getthem.
Get them when you can.

SPEAKER_01 (44:36):
We're not being mean.
No.
Except Sean.

SPEAKER_00 (44:38):
Sean give you the elbow.
We don't do that shit.
We go in there, we ask Lightly,uh, maybe step in, you know, and
most people are cooperative, butevery now and then.

SPEAKER_01 (44:46):
That's your crew elbow.

SPEAKER_00 (44:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (44:49):
So so anyway, let's go around the glow up.
Okay.
So I was I was uh reading thisarticle and they were talking
about, and I thought this waskind of funny.
They were saying that the majorcruise lines suspended the
Carambean destination.
Now, and the reason why thatthey suspended this, I'm gonna
go a little bit further withthis, but the reason why they

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suspended it is because ofsafety concerns about
kidnappings.
So they stopped to the privateport of Haiti.

SPEAKER_00 (45:18):
Haiti.
So wait a minute, wait a minute.
No kidnappings happening there.

SPEAKER_01 (45:27):
So so come on.
First of all, Sean, so if youwere going on a cruise, all
right, yeah, and the destinationwas known to have you know
safety concerns uh here andthere about kidnappings.

SPEAKER_00 (45:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (45:43):
Getting off the boat?

SPEAKER_00 (45:45):
No.

SPEAKER_01 (45:47):
I'm not even going.
As much as I might want thatbottle of rum, I'm not going.
So if this week they said, well,the kidnappings are down,
everybody's welcome back in.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (45:56):
Oh yeah, we're safe now.

SPEAKER_01 (45:57):
Oh yeah.
Let's go to Haiti, right?

SPEAKER_00 (46:00):
Dude, no.
I Haiti when the that happens.

SPEAKER_01 (46:05):
That was bad.

SPEAKER_00 (46:06):
Yeah.
Listen, I all I gotta say islike, you know, people,
management's not always smart.
Really?
Can we start there?
No.
Can I get an Amen?
Amen.
Please, God.

SPEAKER_01 (46:22):
Amen.
You're supposed to surroundyourself with people that are
smarter than you to be smartmanagement.

SPEAKER_00 (46:27):
Yeah, exactly.
Right.
And you know, if you're gonna ifyou're gonna avoid and suspend
Caribbean, suspend it.
Don't go there.
Right.
Like cancel the ships and youknow, and stop doing it until
those countries behave orwhatever you want to do, but or
pick another route.

SPEAKER_01 (46:44):
Could you imagine?
Okay, think about that.
If you booked a flight, or ifyou booked a cruise and they
they stopped them, and then youthe week that you're coming,
they they're like, okay, we'regonna go.
Yeah, we're gonna go.
We got a new destination foryou.
Hey, guess what?
There was only like threekidnappings.
Yeah.
It's not bad.
It's all down.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (47:05):
It's trending down.
We think it's okay.

SPEAKER_01 (47:09):
All right.
So here's what's been going ontoo.
These these um this anotherthing that they've been talking
about in the um in the news wasthese passengers that are paying
for these um, you know, thecheap seats.
Sure.
Right?
And and we have a lot of theeconomy plus seats that are
available.
Yeah.
On some of the flights now, Imean it's that time of year.

SPEAKER_00 (47:28):
Especially on the airline too.
Like not all airlines have twodifferent classifications in
economy.

SPEAKER_01 (47:34):
Right.
But you say say that you have umuh room in the in the forward
part of the cabin, which is moreleg room.
Right.
More all the other airlines,every every airline pays for it,
you gotta pay for it.
But the people in back, so it'scompletely packed back there,
and they look like sardines.

SPEAKER_00 (47:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (47:48):
And there's like 20 s people in the front part.

SPEAKER_00 (47:52):
Sure.

SPEAKER_01 (47:52):
So all these people are getting pissed because
they're they're sitting theresaying, Well, you should let us
move up to be comfortable.

SPEAKER_00 (47:59):
Right.
This ain't a bus.
Nope.
Last time I checked, there'sonly one plane out there that's
yellow.
Not most of them.
Nope.
Okay.
And you pay for whatever youwant to you want to get.
Right.
It's kind of like the same thingwith like, you know, you get the
we always get that person in thelast row, you know, that oh man,

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how did I get this seat?
You bought the damn ticket.
That's how you got it.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (48:25):
Okay, that's the same thing if you're like 6'6
and you bought that that crappyass seat in the back.
Right.
Oh, man, and then you go to theflight attendant.

SPEAKER_00 (48:32):
My legs don't fit in here.
Can I move?

SPEAKER_01 (48:34):
Uh, they were that size when you bought the ticket.
Right.
Right?
Right.
This didn't sneak up on you.
No, your legs were the samesize.
But yet you're getting mad,you're getting mad at that at
the airline and the flightattendants because they're
refusing to let you move up intothe the place with more leg
room.
Yeah.
Those people paid for that.
So if they get an extra two orthree seats, hey, look, they

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they did a good job.

SPEAKER_00 (48:57):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (48:57):
They got a good value for their money.
They paid like 70 70 bucks extraand they got a whole room.
Now you look like a sardine cam.

SPEAKER_00 (49:05):
Dude, I I am always baffled by those people, those
large people.
And I don't care which directionyou want to go, horizontal or
vertical.
Right.
I already know you.
I mean, I don't understand whyyou don't just take care of
yourself.
Take care of yourself.
Yep.
Like, listen, I like to traveland I like to travel in comfort.
I mean, the last thing I'm gonnado is I want to be squished up

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on somebody, right?
I mean, if I have to get on aplane and I have to be in that
situation because I had got toget to a certain situation, I
will do that.
But for the most part, if I'mvoluntarily just going
someplace, I'm definitely notgonna preempt my travel to say
put me into a sardine can.

unknown (49:44):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (49:45):
There's no way you're going in the back.
There is no way.
No, you're going in the in intothe plus section.

SPEAKER_00 (49:51):
Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 (49:52):
So, okay, they had this flight that was traveling
from uh Charlotte to Las Vegas,also uh got a little bit crazy.
A 47-year-old passengerthreatened a crew member and
assaulted a flight attendant.
Eventually they they were uhthey were duct taped to their
seat.

SPEAKER_00 (50:08):
Dude, you know what?

SPEAKER_01 (50:09):
Where do they get duct tape?

SPEAKER_00 (50:10):
That's who carries that?
So here's this some airlinesthat are out there, instead of
handcuffs, they have duct tape.
Really?
So they have a roll of duct tapethat they have instead of
handcuffs.
So, like, you know, our airline,we got wire ties, right?
So we're gonna we're gonna putthem in wire ties.
But these other people got ducttapes.
I want duct tape.
But I want duct tape too,because I want to duct tape, I

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want to like mummy their assonto the seat.
Like, like there's I don't knowif this is good enough.

SPEAKER_01 (50:36):
You better hope there ain't an emergency because
there's only one person thatain't getting off that plane.

SPEAKER_00 (50:40):
Right.
Yeah.
That duct tape person.
I'm telling you, they're gonnahave to, they'd have to get some
like serious shears to get themout of my seat.

SPEAKER_01 (50:47):
They got some good videos, man, of those passengers
being duct taped, though.
It's crazy, dude.

SPEAKER_00 (50:51):
Crazy.
But I guess I mean that's youknow, you get you get it,
whatever, whatever.
That's that's their procedure.
Duct tape.

SPEAKER_01 (50:59):
So you got another passenger that he was pissed off
because they gave um uh theirthis their child his$300 seat.

SPEAKER_00 (51:10):
His$300 kit.
So when he can they got on aplane, here's this child sitting
in his seat, and he's likepissed because this child
sitting in his$300 seat.

SPEAKER_01 (51:19):
Yeah, and so they had to they had to put him in
another seat, probably why?
Came up late, right?

SPEAKER_00 (51:25):
Wouldn't showing up.
At certain points in a lot ofthe airlines policies out there,
if you're not there at a certainperiod of time, they start
releasing the seats and be like,okay, that person doesn't
showing up.
We need to put other bodies inthere.
And if little Joey got it beforeyou, so be it.

SPEAKER_01 (51:41):
If you get in an argument with a little kid,
right.
That ain't gonna go well.
All right, so here you had a youhad a passenger complain uh to a
flight attendant that they well,he actually complained to
another flight attendant thatthe other flight attendant
wouldn't serve him unless hetook off both his headphones.
Like, you're gonna love thisone.
So yeah, he took off one, butthe person wouldn't serve him

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unless he took both of them off.

SPEAKER_00 (52:05):
So like one ear was exposed, but the other ear was
had still had his music orwhatever going on.

SPEAKER_01 (52:10):
She just didn't feel like he was completely tuned in.

SPEAKER_00 (52:14):
I don't think he was.

SPEAKER_01 (52:16):
So yeah, that's that's hilarious.
But that's not gonna go overwell.
No, right?
I mean, truthfully, it's notgonna go over well.
As much as we don't likeheadphones, right, as long as
you partially tune in, yeah,right, you're gonna get
something to drink.
I ain't gonna do that to you.
You're gonna get something todrink, but you know, hey, tune
in.

SPEAKER_00 (52:33):
Dude, man.
I mean, just I just hate thatpeople tune us out, and then if
we miss them or whatever thesituation is, or they feel like
they're being neglected.
It's because they did it tothem, their own damn selves.
Like, listen, if we're out therein the aisles serving, pay
attention to what we're doing,and we're like most most people

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are like frequent flyersnowadays.
You know, you get rare very rarehave you seen a oh, this is my
first flight.
We get 'em, but it's not it'snot the common thing.
The common denominator is you'vehad your ass on a flight and
know what how it works.
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (53:10):
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 (53:11):
Right.
So good grief.

SPEAKER_01 (53:13):
All right, gotta love this next one.
Uh, 13-year-old boy.
He uh he got inside the wheelwell.
We've talked about these before.
Now he traveled 94 minutes,right?
94 minute flight from uh Kabulto Delhi on the the 21st of
September, survived.
Wow.
That's pretty impressive.

SPEAKER_00 (53:33):
That's lucky.

SPEAKER_01 (53:35):
Yeah.
Lucky.
Pretty impressive, though.
I mean, not exactly the way Itravel, but you know something
for a 13-year-old kid.
They say when they put him back,they they they gave him a seat
in the cabin.

SPEAKER_00 (53:45):
They must they they must not have gone too high in
altitude for him.
You know, like that's probablythe only thing that saved his
life because they didn't get upto like they didn't shoot up to
35.
That shit was cold, though.
I don't care how yeah, no matterwhat.

SPEAKER_01 (53:59):
Imagine how cold that'd be.

SPEAKER_00 (54:00):
Yeah, even in that those desert countries and stuff
like that, it still gets cold ataltitude.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (54:06):
Hey, before we get out of here, uh just want to say
um Spirit Airlines, they'recutting 1800 flight attendants
jobs very soon.
We just wanted to tell you guys,take care of yourself.
Um, we've been there.
We have been there.
We've been there, trust me.
We and and you guys uh just keepit together and uh see what
happens, and then just realize,you know, there there's if if it

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doesn't work out, there's alwaysa place that you can go.
And uh and if it and hopefullyit does, then you guys will get
back together and uh and youknow you'll start flying again
and uh be on the plane soon.
But again, you know, our heartsgo out to you and and we hope
that it all turns out well.

SPEAKER_00 (54:45):
AG, I heard there's a cell tower repair position
open.
A A Ron.
All I'm saying is that you don'tknow where this is we're full
circle.
We don't know where lifetrajectory is happening.
And listen, just because of thisfurlough and all this stuff,

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keep going.
Exactly, keep going.
This is just a stumbling block,you know.
You can just you don't knowwhere life's getting ready to
take you, but believe me, it'sall for the better.

SPEAKER_01 (55:18):
And and one more thing, AA Ron.
If you're listening, send us anemail.
Send us an email, A Ron.
All right, Sean.
Take us out with a quote.

SPEAKER_00 (55:28):
All right, you know what the quote of date is is it
does not matter how slowly yougo as long as you do not stop.
That's what we just said abouteverything else, right?
Boom.
The whole episode.
This is what it's about, man.
Just keep your focus forward,don't look back, just keep
going.
I mean, I can't tell you, and uhG could get to attest to this.

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I try everything in life.
Yep.
Like I have been into so muchshit, and it seems like I
haven't done nothing.
Like I've always tried I trystuff, and I there's uh the
majority of it um it's shit, butjust keep going.

SPEAKER_01 (56:10):
You know, but okay.
So talk about that for a secondbefore we get out of here.
The only way that you'll findout if truly if that iron in the
fire is the one, is that if youkeep putting them.
So, you know, I I'll give youthat, man.
You're you're right, you'vetried many, many things, but the
thing is that you just keepputting them in there, and one

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day it it's gonna be the rightone.

SPEAKER_00 (56:32):
Yeah, it's what it is.
I mean, like, it doesn't have tobe like the um you know,
pinnacle of uh success.
Like, you don't have to be like,I don't have to become a
superstar, or I don't have tolike I can just succeed to a
level that I'm comfortable with,and I can move on to something
else.
Like there, you don't have to bethe best at something, or you

(56:54):
don't have to be like therichest and all that stuff.
You can just try things and findout, you know, the experience in
itself and putting it alltogether is really what makes
you such a better person.
Just having all those differenttypes of experiences and
understanding how the world andpeople work and all that stuff.
That's that's where it's at.

SPEAKER_01 (57:14):
And remember, I got here because I took that left
turn at Albuquerque.
So, hey, you guys have a goodweek.
Yeah, we had a lot of fun, andwe will see you next week.
Happy anniversary, Sean.
Happy anniversary, and we willsee you guys next time on Cabin
Pressure.

SPEAKER_00 (57:27):
Bedeep deep be deep.
That's all, folks.
That was good.
See ya.
Thanks for flying with us todayon Cabin Pressure with Sean and
G.
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