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Ever watched a simple trip turn into a sitcom? We kick off with a cursed run to Palm Springs—stuck galley bin, maintenance call, ATC hold, go‑around, then jammed stairs on arrival—before settling into perfect desert golf and blue skies. It’s a snapshot of modern air travel: crews and passengers riding the same turbulence, each with a different job to do once the door closes.

From there we aim higher. We unpack a striking AI documentary that tracks the leap from protein folding breakthroughs to open data that accelerates cancer research. Jaw-dropping progress comes with hard questions: what happens when the same tools that design cures can design threats, or when autonomous systems move faster than human judgment? We weigh innovation against governance and why timing—not just ambition—decides what becomes possible.

Back in the cabin, we get practical. A hilarious iPad mix-up shows how easy it is to blame the crew for noise… when your own tablet is chirping. We break down why intoxicated passengers don’t fly, how alcohol hits harder at altitude, and the smartest way to handle a tipsy friend: sit down and stay out of it. Winter shows up, too—first de-icing day, first frostbit surprise—so we share road and ramp survival kits: compact shovel, jumper pack, magnetized beacons, gloves, beanie, and a thermal blanket. And if the aurora flares, we teach your phone the trick for capturing northern lights you can’t see with the naked eye.

Along the way we hit shutdown aftershocks, the Dulles people-mover crash, crew alcohol limits that mean business, and a closing idea worth keeping: ambition is good, but timing needs to be right. If you’re headed into peak travel season, this one packs laughs, hard-won rules, and real-world tips to make the journey smoother.

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
Welcome on board episode 62, where the seatbelt
sign is on, the passengers areoff, and Sean is still
recovering from Palm Springsgolf and toilet paper tail
siding.

SPEAKER_01 (00:12):
Yeah, that lady strutted through the airport
like she had a streamingsubscription to Charmin.

SPEAKER_02 (00:18):
Meanwhile, half the country is trapped in airports
because of the shutdown, and theother half is in the de-icing
line, wondering why it's cold inNovember.

SPEAKER_01 (00:26):
I live next to the a lake the size of France.
Why is my windshield, buddy?

SPEAKER_02 (00:32):
And a shout out to our 0.1% passengers, you know
who you are, booked six monthsago, packed two days early, and
made it through TSA's free spaexperience.

SPEAKER_01 (00:42):
Only to get booted off the plane before the drink
card even rolled out.
That's a commitment to chaos.

SPEAKER_02 (00:49):
But don't worry, we got tips for surviving winter
travel, AI that moves fasterthan human comprehension, and
maybe a bloody merry or three.
So grab your gloves, charge yourjumper cables, and silence your
iPad, man.
Because this episode's clear fortakeoff and heavy turbulence.

(01:30):
Here comes Johnny.

SPEAKER_01 (01:34):
Slights.
Watch out, dude.
I just got back from golfing.
Having a good trip out in PalmSprings.
Did you hit any houses?
I did.
You did?
Yeah, man.
Um now the wife says I hit two.
I'd say I only hit one, but um,you know, she counted as if I
went in their yard, it got hit.
Oh, okay.
No, when I say hit a house, minewent boom.

(01:58):
I mean, people jumped in thehouse, things like that, you
know, ran out their side, seewho in the hell hit her their
house.
Yeah, but I didn't I hit one.
Did you put your signature onit?
Sean was here, dude.
It's you know, for all thegolfers out there, it's one of
those things I just try here.
You you see the ball like archoff, and you're like, oh shit,

(02:20):
oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 (02:21):
Boom.
Not exactly like Chevy Chase,right?
Be the ball.

SPEAKER_01 (02:26):
Yeah, it's uh it's yeah, it wasn't be the ball.
You didn't want to be that ball.
But yeah, good time.
Dad man, you know what?
Vacation turned out really good.
Um, the big Audible down from uhCabo to Palm Springs, the
weather was phenomenal, man.
I mean, it was so nice everyday.
Picture perfect skies, like nota barely a cloud in the sky.

(02:50):
All you can see is contrails,but the temperature was like,
even at night, like I think thelow got down to like maybe 67,
something like that.
It was it was it was awesome.

SPEAKER_02 (03:01):
Now you got there earlier though, right?
Earlier than Carol.

SPEAKER_01 (03:04):
I got there one day earlier than my wife.
Okay, right, because we had tolike adjust it, like we were
doing a Sunday to Sundayvacation, and we could only book
Saturday to Saturday.
So, and she had a she had towork that day, so she was
supposed to be flying the daybefore vacation.
And uh, so she came out the nextthe following day.
So, how was it traveling ineconomy?
Um, so yeah, man, we boughtthese tickets.

SPEAKER_02 (03:29):
I know she was up front.

SPEAKER_01 (03:30):
Yeah, she got to she got to fly first class the whole
way, and I got I got booted tothe back on the second flight,
but uh we all got there.
It was uh it was all good.
You didn't say how was theeconomy?
But I gotta tell you, like my mysecond flight on my on my and
I'm gonna tell you about thiseconomy experience.
So I had it seemed likeeverything was going wrong with
this flight.

(03:51):
Like I was like, I'm not gonnaget there.
Like I'm gonna get there.
I'm gonna see Carol the nextmorning, and we're gonna be on
the same flight.
Because I mean, it was likeeverything was going on.
First thing that happened, welike close the door, sitting
there, sitting there, you know,all of a sudden, you know,
they're like, oh, we're uh wehave a mechanical problem here,
and we're gonna have to call outmaintenance.

(04:11):
And uh um we uh the flightattendants have told us that
there's a bin in the back alley,and uh they're not able to get
it um properly stowed.
And so um we're waiting.
We we called maintenance.
You know, you know what I did.
Got up and went back there andgo freaking.

SPEAKER_02 (04:29):
Hey, yeah, yeah, let me let me do this.
Get it out of the way.

SPEAKER_01 (04:31):
That's exactly what I jumped out of my set.
I'm like, excuse me, excuse me.
People didn't know who I wasbecause I wasn't playing gloves.
I go back to back.
I'm like, I go, uh, I'm like, Ihate to get in your guys'
business and everything.
Oh, but I go, uh, what's goingon?
They're like, well, this thisbin.
And they had an atlas bin, andthe atlas bin are those little
square bins for everybody outthere listening that are on the

(04:54):
back of the planes in thegalleys, and it was like stuck
and it would not like go all theway in.
And so I grabbed the summerbitch and I man manheld on that
thing, jerked it right out,switched positions with another
bin, slapped it in.
I looked at him like, does thatwork?
Time to go.
And they're like, Thank you.
Exactly.
Time to go.

(05:14):
So then the pilot, like, getthey call the captain and
everything, and he comes on,he's like, Well, evidently we
had an off-duty flight agendathat uh saved the day for us and
uh fixed the bin.
So uh we had some little bit ofpaperwork started, so we're
gonna have to cancel that, butwe'll be on our way here
shortly.
Okay, so then so then thisYou're like the superhero.
Yeah, yeah.
So people like I when I walkback to my seat, and there this

(05:36):
is before he even makes thisannouncement.
Uh the guy look, this guy looksat me, he's like, Did you go
back and fix that problem?
I'm like, Yeah.
And then right then the captaincomes on and explains it.
It was pretty wild.
But this flight kept onhappening.
Like we push back, we have thismechanical thing.
I'm like, I'm not gonna getthere.
You know, what's going on?

(05:57):
Then we get out, we're liketaxiing forever.
We're like held up, you know,uh, traffic behind us and all
this stuff, can't push, allthat, you know, all that
continuous normal stupid airlinedelay shit, right?
And this is before, you know,that like all the culmination of
the shutdown stuff is likebuilding up.
Uh because this is a a week ago,right?

(06:20):
And so we get in the air, we'reflying there.
I mean, it's beautiful, clearskies.
All of a sudden, uh, ladies andgentlemen, um ATC is having an
issue uh in our destination, anduh they've decided to put us
into a hold.
I'm like, what is going on withthis flight?

(06:43):
So then next thing you know,like we're like circling a
couple of times, finally we wecome in, we're coming in, and if
you you've flown into PalmSprings, and it's a beautiful
arrival because you like kind oflike circle down and you come
right, somewhat pretty close tothe mountains, and you're like
out the left-hand side of yourplane uh window, um, if you're
landed to the north, and we comedown, we're coming down, it's

(07:06):
like everything's nice andsmooth.
Engine starts booling up.

SPEAKER_02 (07:12):
Let's go back around one more time.

unknown (07:15):
I'm like, mother, what is going on?

SPEAKER_01 (07:18):
I'm like, this flight is possessed.
Get me on the ground, likesomething's good, like shit
keeps on happening, like littletiny things keep on happening.
This is all this flight all theway to.
So we have to go around, we comeback in, they do a landing, then
we get down, we taxi over, weget it, get to the gate.
You know, it's a roll-up stairsfor our airline.
You know, they pull the stairsup and you walk out on the like

(07:40):
old school onto the tarmac.
Ladies and gentlemen, um, sorryabout the delay, but um, we're
having some problems with thestairs.

SPEAKER_02 (07:51):
See, you know, you know, what I love about when we
talk about stuff like this,people don't understand is we're
passengers, too.

SPEAKER_01 (07:59):
Yeah, we're just this is me being a passenger.

SPEAKER_02 (08:01):
Same shit.
The same shit happens up.

SPEAKER_01 (08:02):
Feeling, feeling the angst of the travel.
And you know, like it was like Iwas like, God, when I got off
the plane, I was like, thankGod, let me get it.

SPEAKER_02 (08:11):
Snowball smoke snowball effect.

SPEAKER_01 (08:13):
I mean, honestly, the only thing they left off is
breaking the belt and thebaggage.
I mean, it was like so crazy.
I was like, and then you know,the wife flies in seamless the
next day, no problems.
But uh, that was that was thestart of my life.
That was your extra day.
Yeah, that was our extra day,man.
And um it was it was, I mean,the weather is amazing.

(08:35):
The golf, dude.
If you're a golfer, and and forthose golfers out there, if you
don't know about palm strings,you gotta get out to palm
strings.
There's like, I don't know, likeI would say like in the
neighborhood of like 30 coursesout there that are accessible by
the put to the public.
I mean, I'm talking some reallygood golf.

(08:56):
PGA West is the um biggestcourse out there and like the
most famous.
Like they held the Bob HopeClassic.
You've heard that.
Yeah, you know, um, they haveall these big you walk into this
club, total first class, butit's public access, and it is
such a nice course, it wasreally nice.
The only bad thing to the golfout there at this time of the

(09:17):
year, and I'd recommend likethis time of the year right now
is the time to go to PalmSprings because things are
starting to cool down up north,um, perfect weather down south,
and the temperature there isjust perfect, all the way until
I guess um, you know, from fromnow, from November to about uh I

(09:40):
think February is like theirsweet spot, and you like that's
when everybody's coming outthere to golf and all that
stuff, but after that, like 110plus don't go.

SPEAKER_02 (09:53):
Or or or Cabo has a problem.

unknown (09:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (09:58):
Well, Cabo has a problem.

SPEAKER_02 (10:00):
There's me a good reason to go to Palm Springs,
right?

SPEAKER_01 (10:03):
And that is awesome, audible.
But but yeah, yeah, the uh um itwas it was a good vacation, and
um I saw some really interestingthings on uh, you know, like
when I was tuning into I knowyou're not a big show watcher,
you only should watch showsevery time when I tell you, or
uh most of the time, or or yourwife forces you.

(10:25):
It's a time thing, Sean.

SPEAKER_02 (10:27):
It's a time thing.
We you know, we we each have alittle bit difference in the
time thing.

SPEAKER_01 (10:32):
Yeah, right.
So I watched I watched tworeally cool uh documentaries
because you know me, I'm alwaystrying to like learn and
understand all this stuff.
And one of them was an AIdocumentary, and it was about
this dude that um basically hekind of grew up as a kid, like
he was like a he's a he was agenius, and um he like literally

(10:56):
like uh decided to do he wantedto design an AI, like he wanted
to make the best AI perpossible, basically.
And um it was like he wasexplaining how AI works and the
whole nine yards, and it was athe whole documentary was kind
of like about his life and whatled up to where they are now and

(11:18):
all that stuff, but um the thethe craziest thing about it is
that they were showing you likethe what they used, so and one
of the most interesting thingsis that they were talking about
um folding um uh proteins andfolding proteins is the way that
we like cure cancer, likeunderstanding how to fold

(11:42):
proteins is the initial step tounderstanding how to make a
correct protein cell that willmake a correct organ and all
that stuff, right?
And so this dude solved it, gota freaking Nobel prize for
understanding how to foldproteins.
Then they decided they were, youknow, like companies were like

(12:03):
wanting them to figure this outand they were gonna pay to have
it.
Instead of them like giving itto one company, they decided to
give it to the whole freakingworld.
So now the whole world and everyscientist out there has all this
information on how to properlyfold fold proteins and all this
stuff.
This fix he ends up winningNobel Prize for it, the whole
nine yards.
It was really super interestingabout the whole thing.

(12:25):
But the the thing that uh wassuper scary in the thing was
them talking about theapplication of using this as a
weapon, you know, like using AIas a weapon, right?
Having autonomous vehicles andhave autop autonomous um war
machines, and if you can imaginein a computer like them solving

(12:46):
a problem for us, like imagine acomputer going to war for us,
right?
Like they could do things likesnap before we even like decided
to do it, it could be like done.

SPEAKER_02 (12:57):
It's well technology.
We've talked about this a lotbecause with you, um, but it was
funny.
I had a flight attendant um justthis week.
Now it not as much as with yourAI, but she had smart glasses.
Have you seen those?

SPEAKER_01 (13:10):
Oh yeah.
Um I'm I've I've seen them, I'mnot a big fan of them, but yeah,
it's they're actually kind ofcool though.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
I mean, you you know, they they have like you
can hear the audio in it.

SPEAKER_01 (13:22):
Yeah, and the speakers are like back by the
arms of your glasses, yeah.
Kind of like so you can hear it,and then they got cameras in the
in the cameras, they got readthey can record right from the
glasses, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (13:32):
But the funny part, it reminded me of like what
eight, nine years ago.
It was a Tom Cruise in theMission Impossible, right?
So you never seen those, and youseen them in the Tom Cruise
movie.
What was crazy is that thetechnology that they have and
they they just don't release it,yeah.
So the same thing as like thisAI.
Can you imagine with thetechnology they have with AI
that it's not released?

SPEAKER_01 (13:53):
Well, I think I think too, like you're confusing
some of it with uh theimagination of storytelling.
Like that's kind of like thisStar Trek, you know, that when
we grew up, it was Star Trek,you know, and be me up, Scotty,
and they're flipped a littleflip phone thing and like
Scotty, beam me up, type ofthing, you know.
And that came to fruition oflike we had flip phones and we

(14:13):
were able to talk to each other,we couldn't beam each other up,
but you know, that happened.
Those glasses are probably theuh the thought of like this is
what we can do as like a spytype of thing, you know.
I mean, like in the future, andthen you know, Facebook and Meta
takes it and says, Hey, yeah,that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_02 (14:32):
Let's do the same thing back in the 50s.
Remember, they had used to havethe jet packs, right?
The guy was flying all over theplace, and the next thing you
know, all the military guys havethose.

SPEAKER_01 (14:40):
Yeah, so yeah, it's pretty cool.
I mean, like so all this allthis stuff is like AI is moving
so fast, and it the scary thingabout the whole documentary was
that it is moving at a blazingfast speed, and the majority of
the scientists that are outthere that are doing it are
really thinking hard about theum the impact of how it's gonna

(15:02):
affect us, and that there needsto be some type of monitoring on
this because there's been somuch thought about how AI can
you can drop this into all kindsof stuff, and it could become
very lethal and you know,unfriendly to humans.
Yeah.
So um, yeah, it's not like it'snot like the uh you know the
Terminator or anything likethat, not to that type of crazy

(15:24):
sci-fi level, but it's um wherelike you know, couldn't AI take
over our military system andlaunch all the music missiles,
things like that, you know, orcreate technology like I was
talking about last week, aboutthe the autonomous Navy ship.
Yeah, you know.
Is that a good thing?
Is that a bad thing?
I don't know.
Technology.

(15:45):
Right, right.
So, anyways, man, the otherthing that happened that was
funny as shit.
So I get in off this uh so we'rewe're coming back off the
vacation, and uh, you know,we're we get to the airport,
we're sitting around and umwaiting at the gate, and it was
in a really huge it was one ofthose express flights, you know,
so it wasn't a lot of people atthe gate and stuff.
Here comes this lady, she's likeuh I'd say she was like maybe in

(16:10):
her 70s or whatever.
And she comes walking down,she's walking into the airport,
the whole entire airport, awaiting area airport, and she
has a stream of toilet papertucked in the back of her pants.
I'm talking, it looked like itwas like a dinosaur tail, that
how long it was.

(16:30):
I mean, streaming behind her,and she's walking around the
airport where she had wiped herass and that's toilet paper,
quite didn't get finished, andshe's attached this big old
stream to her and walked out ofthe bathroom with it.

SPEAKER_02 (16:43):
How many, how many times have you seen that on an
airplane?

SPEAKER_01 (16:45):
Oh, we've seen it on the airplane many a time.
Right?

SPEAKER_02 (16:47):
It's it's either attached to their feet or
they're attached to their ass.

SPEAKER_01 (16:51):
Yeah, yeah.
She she had it tucked in herlittle uh stretchy pants, and uh
some dude walked over and he'slike, Listen, as much as I like
the joke, I gotta tell you, yougot you got something hanging
off the back of your pants.

SPEAKER_02 (17:05):
I I I have to admit, I am that guy.
I'm that guy.
I'm like, hey, look, you gotsome I as much as I'd love to
see you walk through the wholeplant, you gotta take that off
your shoe, man.
Because that that's just nasty.
It's nasty.
But don't want you.

SPEAKER_01 (17:19):
It was so funny to see this lady walking.
I'm like, that is hilarious.
Like, you know, people played,we used to play jokes as a kid
and stuff, right?
Right.
But here it is happening in reallife.
Old age comes back and bite you.
Now it's gonna get you justtime.
Then the other thing thathappened too was uh so when we
were coming back, I got so Caroland I got back, no problem,

(17:43):
right?
And so we're going from PalmSprings to Cleveland.
Our friend's going into PalmBrings, flying into Atlanta.
He's flying, you know, he's likehe's like a gazillion miler and
all this stuff, status, thewhole nine yards.
They get there and they get onone of these things, they get to
the airport, and Palm SpringsAirport is like tiny.
Now he's turned into his rentalcar, he has no hotel and the

(18:06):
whole nine yards, he's waitingfor his flight.
They get there like two o'clock.
They are waiting.
It's a delay because of theshutdown.
They put on this whole holdingdelay, and he's in an airport
waiting and waiting.
Oh, it's gonna be longer.
ATC's made it to this, whatever.
Dude, at 10 o'clock at night,they cancel the flight.

SPEAKER_02 (18:30):
That's exactly what they were doing, man.
Uh you would know this if youwere at the airport more, but
they sorry, I had to get thatone in.

SPEAKER_01 (18:38):
I don't need to be there.
I've already experienced enoughshit just in my travels.

SPEAKER_02 (18:45):
It it was, I mean, it was crazy um with the with uh
the delays and the cancellationsat the airport.
I mean, you heard a lot of itgoing on in Newark, but there
was a lot of other things thatwent on too.
Did you hear about that?
Did you hear about you know thatpeople mover over in Dulles?

SPEAKER_01 (18:59):
No.

SPEAKER_02 (19:00):
Okay, I'm gonna get back to the shutdown in a
second, but that people mover inDulles just the other day, it
ran into the wall.
Like 18 people got hurt, Sean.

SPEAKER_01 (19:08):
Whoa.

SPEAKER_02 (19:08):
Yeah, it ran literally, it uh it ran uh
Jackson's girlfriend wasactually on the tram behind
them.
Oh wow, yeah, she was that closeto being.
Yeah, sent me a picture.
You could see actually it movedthe wall.

SPEAKER_01 (19:19):
Oh, dude, those things.
I am so shocked that thatairport does not have that, like
have like redesigned somethingby now.
You know, I know they added inthe train so they could connect
to some of the terminals andstuff, but uh I mean it is not
those people movers suck.
I mean, they're so they're sohigh, and I'm surprised more of
them haven't like blown over ortipped over.

(19:39):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (19:40):
You know?
Well, they're probably gonnalook at this one, uh but they
didn't have any, you know, whatthe reason was because for you
to actually run that damn thingthrough that, because you're
supposed to slow down because itlocks in.
It has this whole lockingmechanism to the front, like
they drive it, and you know howthey reverse, like when you you
you go to the other side and youdrive from the other side, and
then you drive it into there.

(20:00):
So something had there's gottabe more to that story.
It's gonna be interesting tofind out if that person was
impaired.

SPEAKER_01 (20:07):
He got the peepee.

SPEAKER_02 (20:09):
18 people, though, man.
18 people were injured.

SPEAKER_01 (20:12):
Yeah, that's that's crazy, man.

SPEAKER_02 (20:14):
But as far as a shutdown goes, the only thing
I'm gonna say for shutdown isthank God we're at almost at the
tail end of it.
Oh, thank God.
Right?
I mean, to hold people hostagefor their uh their pay pay hold
their paychecks hostage.
I think that's I'm sorry, thatis freaking bullshit.

SPEAKER_01 (20:30):
I don't care what the I don't care what the
argument is, period.
I mean, m one I think this ishow I feel about the whole
thing, and we're not getting toopolitical here, but I don't
think, period, one, somebodyneeds to make a law saying that
when the government's shut down,every fucking body is shut down.

(20:52):
They don't get paid.
The military if the militarydoesn't get paid, they don't get
paid.
Right, exactly.
Everybody, nobody in thegovernment should be getting
paid a paycheck, period.
That should be shut down andshut down.
And they didn't even make a law.
Yeah.
They really need to make a law.
I mean, we keep on seeing this.
How many times over our lifetimehave we seen this?

(21:12):
And I don't care what theargument's about, I can give a
shit.
Really?
I mean, the common guy, you andme sitting back here, we're not
the guy, you know, like thisisn't, you know, the whatever
they're arguing about and stuff,it usually isn't important to
us.
Right.
Okay.
And whatever their point is andall that bullshit, I mean, come
on, stop.

(21:32):
Everybody should stop gettingpaid.
And that's my one thing aboutthis whole thing that every time
this happens and they got allthe freaking Congress and all
this shit, and they're sittingaround going on vacation, you
know, all this bullshit, gettingpaid.

SPEAKER_02 (21:46):
If they knew, if they knew that they weren't
getting paid, signed, sealed,delivered, period.
It's it's done.
It's done.
But they they don't.
It's other people's, it's otherpeople's problem, so they don't
give shit.

SPEAKER_01 (21:56):
But anyway, I'm I'm not gonna we're not gonna get
into a whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 (22:00):
Right.
Not gonna get into all that, butanyway, I'm just glad that we're
at the end of it.
It's gonna take a while.
It's really gonna take a while,though, for it to actually to
get it straight straightenedout, though.

SPEAKER_01 (22:10):
No, yeah, it's not like it's not gonna happen
overnight.
I was talking to somebody aboutthis the other day, and they
were saying, you know, like Igo, if you remember like uh 9-11
and you remember like some ofthe COVID stuff when we slowed
down, it takes a while to geteverything but back up and
running and and everything, youknow, put together.
So you you know, it's not likeone of these, you know, you flip

(22:32):
a button and hey, we're backopen, and you turn the sign over
from uh we're closed to we'reopen, and everything starts up.
You know, it takes a little bitof time to get the logistics in
place.
Not to mention the governmentalso has to approve us to start
flying these routes they've nowmandated us to cut down, right?
You know, so the FA has to comeback and say, okay, you can fly

(22:54):
this much, or we have thecontrollers in place to be able
to handle this much.
There's a bun, it it's a littleprocess.
So I'm crossing my fingers thatthey get the shit back together
before Thanksgiving, you know.
Not gonna happen, but yeah, Imean it's gonna fall short.

SPEAKER_02 (23:09):
I mean, it is gonna fall short.
Plus, you know, like I said,we'll and we'll we'll talk about
that more later, but um, yeah, II just think that I I think that
they're gonna fall short, andbut I'm very happy that it's
coming to a close to thesepeople get paid.

SPEAKER_01 (23:21):
Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02 (23:22):
So, but hey, this morning I was watching this
video and it kind of threw meback for a minute.
And um I was watching it, and itwas uh they're they were talking
about the Jacksons.
They had this young group, andthis this these guys sounded
exactly like Michael Jackson.
A B C It.
They were singing ABC.
Do you know who they comparedthem to?

SPEAKER_01 (23:43):
Who they compare this new group to?

SPEAKER_02 (23:45):
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.
This group sounded just like theJackson, but they but they were
comparing the Jackson 5 to NewEdition.
Oh, okay.
Remember New Edition?
Yeah.
Well, they they were like, okay,remember ABC?
Like A B C.
Yeah.
And then it goes, New Editionwas Candy Girl.
Remember that?
Right.
So they were actually playingthis back and forth, and and

(24:05):
they were talking about that,you know, it doesn't ever
matter, which is true.
It doesn't ever matter thelyrics.
It's the beat.
Everybody gets into the beat.
You remember New Edition for meand you, man, that was like we
were throwing it back then.

SPEAKER_01 (24:17):
Dude, all of it.
Right?
You know.
Yeah, I would I will agree thatlike it's all about the beat and
all about the little catch.
You know, people are like ifpeople like it and it's catchy,
yeah, let's do it.

SPEAKER_02 (24:30):
I just had to talk about it because it man, that
just threw me back.
I was looking at it, I was like,oh man, that that was that was a
lot of fun back then.
New edition.
I love new edition.
They're great.
New edition.
Yeah I like it, I like Jackson5.
Jackson 5 was cool.
They did the Osman Brothers.
They they did the um the onewith Carol Burnett.
Remember that the ABC?
They did that whole have youseen that one?

SPEAKER_01 (24:51):
With Caribbean Brunette, yes.

SPEAKER_02 (24:53):
That whole episode.
That was actually really good.
But anyway, this one's evenbetter.
So uh I was on a flight and thisthis passenger rang her call
button.
I was working at front, and Icame back to the back, and she
was she was pissed.
Really?
Yeah.
She was uh she was so annoyedthat for the last 40 minutes she
had been hearing this person'siPad, right?

(25:14):
That they had it.
Well, they had it without theheadphones.

SPEAKER_01 (25:18):
Oh, right.
I I can't stand that.

SPEAKER_02 (25:20):
Yeah, and and she was like, Um, look, I just I
just want to know why aren't youguys taking care of this?
And I was like, ma'am, you justcalled me back.
She said, You're there, yourcrew members have walked past
here numerous times.
This has been playing, and it'sbeen very annoying to my husband
and myself for the last 40minutes, and your guys' rule, it
states right here that you'resupposed to wear headphones uh

(25:44):
if you're gonna be playing umthe the listening to anything to
anything out loud.
And I said, You're correct.
And she goes, Well, are yougonna take care of it?
And I said, Yes, ma'am, I am.

SPEAKER_01 (25:54):
No, you should have said, huh?

SPEAKER_02 (25:57):
No, I'm gonna say I'm gonna take care of it.
What'd you say?
Yeah, exactly.
I'm gonna but I I told her, No,I said, I'll take care of it.
She goes, Okay, will you tellthe person?
I said, I will.
And she goes, Okay.
And I looked at her and I said,ma'am, it's it's your it's your
iPad.
There you go, man.
And she goes, What?
And I said, it it's your iPad.
It's your iPad.

(26:18):
And her husband looked at me andgoes, Um, wait a minute.
And he puts his head down by heriPad and he goes, Oh, good Lord.
Oh, good Lord.
She goes, I don't have anythingon my iPad.
And I said, But you havesomething playing in the
background.

SPEAKER_01 (26:32):
Something.
That's still playing.
Some some game or something thatyou got going your solitary
games.
That's a little tune jingling.

SPEAKER_02 (26:39):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And and she had that look on herface as that she put her head
down.
And then she, you know how she'slike whispering over at her
husband, I don't reallyunderstand that.
You know, something how could itreally have been mine?
Blah, blah, blah, for the last40 minutes.
But the best part of this, thebest part of it was a week
later, I just had them on myplane again.
And when they walked on board,we got such a laugh out of it.

(26:59):
Because I mean, as soon as they,as soon as they come on board,
he goes, We turned it off.
And I told him I said, Hey, it'soff.
At least you got a story out ofit.

SPEAKER_01 (27:09):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (27:09):
You know, I mean, she initially she was all pissed
off, but now it turned out to befunny.

SPEAKER_01 (27:14):
That's hilarious.
Because there's so many times ona plane that people are like
ill-foundedly just uh directingtheir like frustrations at us,
the crew, and like we havenothing to do with it.
Or like like all we're you know,and us walking by, we've we've
got a thousand things we'redoing in our head.
Like we're normally if we'rewalking by, we're walking to go

(27:36):
do something.
We're doing something.
It's like back and forth, andwe're really not paying
attention as we're likelistening to everybody as we're
walking down the aisles,listening to their
conversations, right?

SPEAKER_02 (27:46):
I love that you just said that we had nothing to do
with it because that is going toto cover a little bit about what
I'm gonna talk about next.
Do you like taking passengersoff airplanes?
No, I hate I hate removing pass.
I'm gonna say this again.
I hate removing passengers offairplanes because we're in the

(28:06):
business of getting people fromdestination to destination.
That's what we do.

SPEAKER_01 (28:11):
They're wasting our time.
Exactly.
So basically, they're not justwasting our time, they're
wasting everyone's time onboard.
It's like it's a veryinconsiderate thing to do
towards everyone on the plane.

SPEAKER_02 (28:23):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it it's just you come on
board, act like a normal person,get yourself to your
destination, and go.
So I wanted to cover this alittle bit because this happened
this week, and it was kind of itdidn't pertain to me, but it's
what we go through on a regularbasis with passengers that do
this.

(28:43):
So, so what I thought about isokay, I'm this passenger, and
I'm thinking, okay, I can't waitfor my vacation.
I'm months earlier, okay?
Right.
And I purchased my ticket.
So I'm all excited because I'mgoing to Cabo.
Do you like that?
I'm going to Cabo.

SPEAKER_01 (29:00):
Are you American?

SPEAKER_02 (29:01):
No.
But anyway, I I purchased thisticket months in advance.
And so I can't wait because Iearned it, right?
I can't wait.
I have waited for this vacation.
I've earned this vacation.
So I'm very excited.
I'm a week out.
And all I could think about is,man, one more week.
I'm on the beach.

(29:21):
Right.
So two days out, I'm alreadypacking my shit.
Right?
Heck yeah.
I'm packing my bags, make sure Igot all my stuff.
You know, I'm I'm like, I'mthere, man.
I'm already, I'm already on thebeach.

SPEAKER_01 (29:33):
Yeah, making a list, checking it twice.

SPEAKER_02 (29:35):
And you know what I did?
I'm taking the early morningflight, Sean.
Right?

SPEAKER_01 (29:38):
I'm gonna get there early.

SPEAKER_02 (29:39):
I'm gonna get there early, man.
My ass is up at two o'clock.
Maximize my party.
Exactly, man.
I I'm telling you, I'm on thatmorning flight.
I'm going down there.
I'm thinking I'm gonna be on thebeach by what?
Noon?
Noon.
One at the max.
So I'm I'm all excited aboutthis.
So then I drive to the airport.
I got to park at this offsiteairport.

(30:00):
Airport parking lot, right?
I take a packed shuttle, whichyou know, to the airport with a
family full of kids screaming,He took my donut.
Right?

SPEAKER_01 (30:11):
Yep.

SPEAKER_02 (30:11):
All right.
So then you stand in line tocheck your bags.
Still thinking, Man, I'm gonnabe there early.
I'm gonna be on the beach.
It's happening.
Then I back up and I go to thisother longer security line to
get my free government-issuedrub down.
Yeah.
To clear TSA.

SPEAKER_01 (30:30):
Yep.
So then I get my TSA massage.

SPEAKER_02 (30:33):
Yeah, I get my little rub down, a little smile.
TSA loves you.
We love them.
Then I'm gonna grab my cup ofcoffee or I'm gonna stop buying,
maybe have Bloody Mary.
Yeah.
Right?
Because I earned it.
Heck yeah.
I earned it, man.
I I paid for this six monthsago.
I'm ready to go.
So I'm heading to the gate.
Nothing wrong with priming thetrip.
No, I'm heading to the gate now,Sean.

(30:56):
And I I I'm waiting at the gate,and then I'm thinking, man, I
gotta get my bag on.

SPEAKER_01 (31:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (31:00):
I gotta get in those cedar point lines.
The bag anxieties.
Yeah, I'm gonna get in that oneline because I gotta try to get
my bag on.

SPEAKER_01 (31:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (31:08):
Because you know, not all the bags go on an
airplane.

SPEAKER_01 (31:10):
That's right.
Somebody might take my spotabove my head.

SPEAKER_02 (31:12):
Yeah.
So you get there, you get inthat line 40 minutes before you
start boarding.
Right.
And find out when you get upthere, they they're taking your
bag.

SPEAKER_01 (31:20):
Yep.

SPEAKER_02 (31:21):
You gotta check it.
Check it.
Then you're getting on theplane, getting ready for this
destination, you sit yourselfdown, and find out at this point
you can't even keep your shittogether 10 minutes longer, and
you find your ass being escortedoff the plane, right?

(31:43):
From people clapping, and you'regoing back into the gate area,
all because of the way you actedonce you got your ass on the
plane, and you couldn't enjoythe fact that you went through
airport hell.
Yeah.
And this is the part that killsme in what you were saying.
Only to blame the crew that tookyou off the airplane.

(32:05):
Right.
It's your fault.
Gee, you know it's yourfault.1%.
Everybody knows that this iswhat we deal with all the time.
Now it's just one or two people.

SPEAKER_01 (32:20):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (32:21):
One or two.
And and what they do is theyruin our damn day because do you
like doing paperwork?
I hate doing paperwork.
Well, I don't, I hate it.

SPEAKER_01 (32:29):
I hate doing paperwork.
It's either dumb or dumb anddumber.

SPEAKER_02 (32:33):
So six months ago, you had this great decision on
going going on a vacation, andthen you got your ass to that
seat and you couldn't just shutup for a few more minutes.

SPEAKER_01 (32:42):
Yeah, no.
People just don't get it.
No.
They don't get it.
No.
They don't get it at all.
Well, here's one thing that, youknow, when you're thinking about
this whole thing, like the theoutside world of how the entire
world operates and retail andservice industry, the whole nine
yards, it operates a littledifferent than how an airline.

(33:04):
So like when you go to Fridaysor you go to, you know,
Applebee's or whatever place youlike to frequent eating at, and
you have something happeningwith your meal, you know, you
might throw a fuss about yourmeal and call over the manager
and all this stuff and act acomplete fool and idiot, do

(33:26):
stupid stuff, you know, tossyour food, who knows what are
you, whatever it gets in yourmind to do, to act belligerent,
but they don't have laws.
Right.
They don't have the the onlylaws they got is like the civil
disobedient laws and you knowdamaging property of somebody's
personal property, all thosenormal laws that protect us here

(33:46):
as a citizen.
But the the planes have laws.
Right.
And we got rules to keep thingsin order.

SPEAKER_02 (33:55):
And then you have then you have 99.9% of the
people go, why didn't you takethem off?

SPEAKER_01 (34:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (34:04):
Nobody that wants that on their they don't want
this disruption because theythey've seen these on YouTube,
they've seen these videos.
So when this this happens, thissame crew that welcomed you on
board, hey, good morning, howyou doing?
Welcome on board, right?
Right now becomes Satan's childtaking you off the airplane.
Right?
I mean, that's the truth.
I mean, and and it it it it's reit's absolutely ridiculous.

(34:26):
And the number one thing, thenumber one thing, and you guys
didn't need to understand this,and we talked about it before:
intoxicated passengers.
When you're intoxicated on anairline, Sean, what is that?
And that's any airline.
Doesn't matter.
If you are deemed intoxicated onan airplane, what happens?
You don't fly.

(34:48):
You do not fly.
If you're intoxicated before youget on a plane, you are not
boarded.
If you're if you're seen to beintoxicated on the plane during
the boarding process, you're notgonna be boarding.
Why?
Because you're intoxicated.
Okay, but why?
Give them a reason.
I mean, why do they why is itimportant that they not fly?

SPEAKER_01 (35:07):
Oh, because we don't know what's gonna happen.
Like anything can possiblyhappen.
You don't know how people reactwhen they're intoxicated.
We've all seen how people reactin in bars and stuff when
they're intoxicated.
So you don't want thatunruliness or that
out-of-control person on boardthe a trapped environment that
can become very volatile.

SPEAKER_02 (35:26):
And also safety of flight.

SPEAKER_01 (35:28):
Safety of flight.

SPEAKER_02 (35:29):
Safety of flight is that you might not be able to
get that, get off the aircraftif you're intoxicated, if
there's an emergency.
You might block an emergencyexit if you're intoxicated, you
might do something that wasstupid and injure other
passengers because that you'reon there.
You might projectile puke overthe top of other people, which
we've had.

(35:49):
Yep.
But see, when that happens, thenyour crew now is completely
responsible for all that.

SPEAKER_01 (35:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (35:56):
So there's reasons why you don't go.
So just remember, I even thoughyou're talking about the Bloody
Mary, have one.
Don't have three or four.

SPEAKER_01 (36:05):
Yeah, before you get on board.

SPEAKER_02 (36:06):
Yeah, don't.
Because we want to take you toyour destination.

SPEAKER_01 (36:10):
Even when you think you can handle your liquor, what
people know another concept ofthis whole thing, little aspect,
is that you know, alcoholaffects you differently at
altitude.
Right.
There's less oxygen up there,your body metabolizes alcohol
differently.
The whole nine years.
I don't care how heavy a drinkeryou are or how big you are, or
what and all that stuff, youain't no exception.

(36:32):
Nope.
There's no exceptions out there.
I've never seen one yet.
If you drink too much, it'sgonna affect your lot.

SPEAKER_02 (36:37):
And here's here's one more thing before we move on
from this.
If you happen to be travelingwith that intoxicated person,
right?

SPEAKER_01 (36:45):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (36:46):
And you feel like you want to stand up and uh
inject your uh yourself into theconversation, Sean, do you think
that's a good idea?
No.
What's the best thing?
Just simply, what is the bestthing if you're traveling as a
group and that person isintoxicated, what's the best
thing that you could do?
Stay out of it.
Sit down.

(37:07):
Sit down.
Thank you very much.
Shut your mouth.
Enjoy your flight.

SPEAKER_01 (37:11):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (37:11):
I'm going to Cabo.
Wait for the bar cart in flight.
I'll see you tomorrow when youget there.
Sober up.
Exactly.
See you tomorrow, Johnny.
I mean, seriously, that's it.
I mean, and we don't want to, wedo let me reiterate this.
We hate taking anybody off anair aircraft.
We don't like doing that.
None of it, there's not one ofus that liked the confrontation
of that.
I don't like the paperwork.

(37:33):
No, that's what I said.
I hate the paperwork.
I hate it.
Terrible.
I can't stand it.
But it's always all our fault.
I forced you to drink, I forcedyou to yell at me.
I forced you to threaten, right?

SPEAKER_01 (37:45):
Yep.

SPEAKER_02 (37:45):
It's always our fault.

SPEAKER_01 (37:47):
You're a bully.

SPEAKER_02 (37:48):
I know it.
Anyway, uh, next I'm gonna talkabout the big winter storm, man.
The first, the first storm ofthe year.

SPEAKER_01 (37:54):
Dude, I just got back from vacation.
I walk in my house, I wake up inthe morning, and there's two
inches of snow on the deck, mynew deck.
I am not a fan of winter,brother.
I was like, what the hell'sgoing on, people?
Come on.

SPEAKER_02 (38:09):
Nope.
Not a fan of winter, but youknow what I love about
Cleveland, though, is that wepull into Cleveland and open the
door up.
First thing is this.
Oh my god, it's freezing.
I'm like, are you serious?
It's November.

SPEAKER_01 (38:20):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (38:21):
Right?
My my my good buddy Jack used tosay, because when we come in
there in January, the peoplecome in in Ohio and you open the
door out, and it's like ablizzard out there.
And they would they would cometo the door and they'd be in
shorts coming from Florida, andthey're like, Oh my god, it's
freezing.
I'm like, Jack used to say itall the time.
He goes, that would be aconversation in June.

(38:42):
He goes, he goes, it's Januaryin in uh in Ohio, right?
He goes, that would be aconversation in June.
Have a good day.

SPEAKER_01 (38:53):
It's the truth, man.
Inappropriately traveling in thewrong clothes.

SPEAKER_02 (38:58):
Come on, we live by a big ass lake.

SPEAKER_01 (39:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (39:01):
Right?
I mean, in that big ass lake,the temperature is cold and it
changes often.

SPEAKER_01 (39:06):
Dude, then all that lake does is like drum up
weather.

SPEAKER_02 (39:10):
Just gets freaking cold.
Cold.
So I got I had to talk about,okay.
So when when you when we startthis winter season, do you get
your car ready?
Do you do a few things?

SPEAKER_01 (39:22):
Uh for the most part, yeah.
I mean, I was in like the otherday I was uh going in and I was
making sure both of us had ourscrapers and you know, I have a
little portable shovel that Ithrow in the cars and you know,
lad prep them up for that stuff.
I mean, I don't like it's notlike old school where we had to
like you know change the oil andget it ready for winter and put

(39:43):
the snow tires on.
All that shit.
You know, technology's helped usout a little bit, but uh yeah,
yeah.
No, no, I we we prep up to likebecause the one thing you don't
want to do in uh Ohio here whenwe come back from a trip is uh
come back to a car that's snowedin.

SPEAKER_02 (40:00):
Yeah, but the big thing about okay, interstate.
If you something happened on theinterstate, what I learned about
this was an accident years ago,is I I have an emergency cone
that's flashing that pops down.
It's like a three-foot cone.

SPEAKER_01 (40:13):
Dude, I have something better.
What's that?
I got this bag, and you guys canget this on naturally.
You'd have something better, butyeah.
It's it's it's this is awesome,man.
I mean, I'm just I'm I'm justtrying to give you a little uh
PSA out there.
I like my cone.
Yeah, so they give they sellthese little baggies of these
little like disc uh and thediscs are magnet, I think it's
magnetized.

(40:34):
And so not only can you throwthem down underground, they come
in packages of three or six,they're all battery operated,
like triple A batteries,whatever.
And you flip them on, they cando SOS blinking, they can do
strobing, they can do all thisstuff, but you could throw them
on the side of your car, theycan spin around like they're the
tow trucks, have those lightsspinning, they can do all that

(40:54):
stuff.
But I got a bag of like in eachof my cars, I have a bag of a
minimum of three of thosethings, so I can have one in
front, back, and right on theside of my car, just so people
see you.
Right.
Because that's the number onething.
People don't pay attention andcan't see.

SPEAKER_02 (41:09):
They don't see it.
I mean, they they had a badaccident years ago on 71 because
of that, and the girl was in thecar.
But anyway, either flashingcones or get something flashing
that you can put in your car.
Uh, this year, I got a heatedblanket.

SPEAKER_01 (41:22):
That's good, man.

SPEAKER_02 (41:22):
No, it's it's just gonna stay in the blanket.
I mean, hopefully it stays in awrapper.
But I got a heated blanket, gota battery jumper.
I did get one of those, man.

SPEAKER_01 (41:32):
I got a small segue here because I gotta tell you
about the story.
I get home, I have uh this is uhthe year before last year or the
year before, and it was likeminus four.
Okay.
I get in my car, the car goes.
That's I click the key.
Click, click, click, click,click, click, click, click,

(41:54):
click, click, click.
I'm like, I mean, you know, andyou're you can see your breath.
Exactly.
It's freaking cold out, it'sminus four.
I go in, I'm like, I got myjumper, right?
You know, I go and get thatjumper box and I go hook it up
to my battery.
I'm like, this is gonna be good.
I get in there, click the thing.

(42:17):
The jumper was then it was likeand it stopped, like totally
stopped.
It wouldn't even jump it.
I mean, so then I had the peoplecome over to get their jumper
box, they tried to jump to thewhole nine yards.
It was so damn cold, youcouldn't even get the fluid in
the thing warmed up.
I had to warm up the engine, soI had to at least like let the
thing, the cables hooked up tothe engine for a while, so that

(42:40):
it'd warm it up a little bitbecause it was so fucking cold.

SPEAKER_02 (42:44):
That is crazy, dude.

SPEAKER_01 (42:46):
Yeah, I put my body.
But it's a good idea.
Jumper boxes are great.

SPEAKER_02 (42:49):
Heated blanket on it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (42:50):
Something, yeah.
Throw it on the on.
Well, you gotta have battery.

SPEAKER_02 (42:54):
But I did, I I added a jumper.
I added the jumper because ofyou this year.
Yeah, that jumped.
I mean, I had the I had thesmaller one, but I got it.
I got actually a pretty goodone.
Hey, they do great, they have anamazing hey, hey, I got it.
It's already in the car.
So you're right, scraper.
But you know the one thing too,ear muss.

SPEAKER_01 (43:09):
Yeah, you need to earmuffs.

SPEAKER_02 (43:10):
I love ear muss, man.
And then gloves.
I got a beanie.
Do you?
Yeah.
I like the ear muss because Ican I can just throw them in my
pocket when I walk in.

SPEAKER_01 (43:18):
I got gloves and a beanie in my back of the car
too, as well.
Like extra just uh just encased.

SPEAKER_02 (43:23):
Yep.
And now when the wet like whenthe weather really starts
getting bad, I'll throw my carhearts in there.
You know, my my coveralls andstuff.
And I'll throw my I'll throw mybig boots in there too.
Because there's nothing there'snothing worse because you're
wearing your your work shoes andyou're in like three feet of
snow.
I mean, and next thing you know,your feet are soaked and you're
freezing.

(43:43):
Dude, the stuff that didn'tWelcome to Ohio.

SPEAKER_01 (43:45):
Yeah, the stuff we have to do in the north to
prepare for our stuff, butpeople are used to it.
Like we're used to this wholething.
This is the season, you gotta beprepared.
And uh, that's why I like it.
We have a shovel in the car, andthat shovel saved my butt, man,
many a time.
Like trying to just like beingable to just shovel out enough
to be able to get the car movingso I can get through the snow.

(44:07):
Right.
But uh shoot.

SPEAKER_02 (44:08):
So, yeah, that's the fun that we were having, man.
All that that first littlewinter, but here's here's the
one you're gonna like this too.
Okay, it goes right back to theairport.
Um, so we're getting ready uh topull out.
We had to go de-ice for thefirst time this year.
Right.
So we pull in and Cleveland'sgot some good de-icing.

unknown (44:25):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (44:26):
I mean, they're pretty fast.
Yeah, they got a good setup.
I like how they're they're setup.
Well, we we we came in there anduh today was training day.
No.
Yeah.
Stop it.
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (44:37):
Well, it was the first day, first.
So when else do you train?

SPEAKER_02 (44:40):
Could you imagine?
Could you imagine, imagine whattraining day uh at the icing pad
was?
Imagine what that would havebeen?

SPEAKER_01 (44:50):
Yeah.
What would what would have thatbeen?

SPEAKER_02 (44:52):
I don't know.
That's what I'm asking you.
Imagine what that would havebeen.

SPEAKER_01 (44:55):
Uh probably uh six seven.
What?

SPEAKER_02 (45:01):
Six seven.
What the f what is what are youtalking about?
Six, seven.
I'm talking about the icing pad,the de-icing pad, and you're
sitting there going six seven.
What the crap is six seven?

SPEAKER_01 (45:12):
Dude.
If you know, you know.
That's what it is.
Six, seven.
Oh my god.
The six, seven stuff is goingcrazy, man.
What are you talking about?
Six seven.
This is the this is the newslang right now.
It's going on everywhere in theworld right now.
6'7.
All the kids are saying it.
G, you gotta catch up with it,man.

(45:33):
You're getting too old.
We're old.
What the hell?

SPEAKER_02 (45:37):
You come up with 6'7.
I'm like, I'm still going, whatthe f- What is the six seven?

SPEAKER_01 (45:41):
So the six seven stuff is like going it's like
it's like um basically, youknow, okay, I got I got it.
You know, yeah, whatever.
Basically, we know you don't.
Yeah, six seven.
I would smack you in the head.
Evidently, evidently, like thesix, seven's so crazy.
Like the schools now are talkingabout like they're out, they're

(46:03):
gonna want to ban kids sayingsix, seven, and you'll get in
trouble for saying it.

SPEAKER_02 (46:07):
Well, because you want they want to smack you in
the head too.
Right?
I mean, if if if you had aresponse to, okay, wait a
minute, just like you did saidto me, I'm like, okay, what do
you think about the what'd youthink about the the de-icing
light today?
Oh, 6'7.
That's the point, G.
I understand what the point is.
And you'd understand the nextthing that you'd hear be like

(46:29):
that, smacked upside your head.
Not me.
Yes.
My ass.

SPEAKER_01 (46:34):
Oh my god.
Dude, it is so funny because Ihaven't I have yet to like my
little nieces yet.
I've been waiting for them tospit out a 6'7, but I don't
think they will because theirparents are teachers and the
teachers like they hate thisshit.

SPEAKER_02 (46:48):
Like, well, you can tell I didn't like your 6'7
either.
But hey, hey, let's let's let'sgo around the globe.

SPEAKER_01 (46:53):
Go around the globe, man.
You know what's happeningtonight that is really cool,
just happened last night, too,is that the uh northern
hemisphere is uh likeexperiencing that time of the
year where uh you can see thenorthern lights.
I guess the like sun is goingcrazy right now, and like really
the upper, they're talking aboutas far as almost Georgia can see

(47:14):
northern lights.
Have you seen them?
In the plane, in the plane,yeah.
Yeah, in the plane, very cool.
Well, yeah, we could see them inthe plane.
That's I've seen them in theplane many times, but like when
you're on the ground, I think itwas last summer here.
Um I was getting, I came out ofa I was downtown, we were going
to a play or whatever, and we'reon a parking garage in downtown

(47:35):
Cleveland, and we're lookingover the lake, lear Lake Erie,
and people are like, Look at theNorthern lights, look at the
Northern lights.
And I'm looking up and I'm like,I don't see shit.
Like you you you look you seethe pictures, you know, you see
the pictures and you Google thenorthern lights, you see all
these like beautiful, like greeneffervescence and the you know

(47:58):
floating in the air and all thatstuff.
I didn't see anything, likethere was nothing.
But the coolest thing is thatbecause of our eyes and or the
naked eye, if you take yourcamera on your phone and just
turn on your camera and point itat the sky, boom.

SPEAKER_02 (48:14):
That's light.
I was gonna say your your cameraon your phone.
That's that's what they all talkabout doing.

SPEAKER_01 (48:20):
Yeah, it was really, really cool.
So I was like, I was like, thisis like this is a cool thing.
So people like if you're outtonight, well or out this week
or whatever it's uh when you'rehearing this and you're having a
northern light experience.
I mean, here, I want to give yousome tips about their your
camera because you know I'm aI'm a photographer, I do a lot
of photography and stuff likethat.

(48:42):
And uh the one thing that likedrives me nuts, drives me nuts
when I see like everybody takingphotos, they always take photos
horizontally.
Like it's like click pointing atyou, click, you know, like
that's not the aspect of liketaking a photo.
If you want to take a photo ofthe Northern Lights, turn your

(49:02):
freaking phone on the side, makeit horizontal, get that 16 by 9
aspect, or you can go in youryour settings and click from a
4.3 aspect to a 16.9, and umyeah, get do that landscape,
right?
The other thing you want to dois you definitely want to like
take your exposure level and uhyou want to make that turn that

(49:26):
into a negative value.
So, however, it doesn't matterif you're in an Android or
you're an iPhone or whatevertype of phone you're on, you
want to just get it to you knowa lower value so that it like
it's more sensitive to thelight, so you can see that
stuff.
But most phones, I mean just bylooking with your phone and
you're seeing the camera and youjust point it up at the sky,
you'll be able to see thenorthern lights.
And then the cool way to captureit is if you could put it on a

(49:49):
tripod, if you have a chance todo that, and then do a long
exposure where you're doing likea second or a half a second just
of of like the the shutteropening and closing, right?
Uh you're gonna have more timeto see that light like expose
onto the the sensor and it willcapture it.
It's cool, dude.

(50:11):
But yeah, that that's whatthat's the um that's what's
going on here.
Northern lights.

SPEAKER_02 (50:17):
Yeah, I love the northern lights.
We get we get such a great greatshot of them.
I don't know.
We're not gonna have you singit.
I was getting ready to bust out,but hey, I had to tell you about
this one though.
Flight attendant was found now.
Get this.
This is crazy.
Ten times over the legal limit.

(50:38):
Whoa.
Ten times.
Whoa.
After drinking multiple minibottles of vodka on a flight
from San Francisco to London.
That flight attendant wasripped, jacked.
Jacked.
So they later tested theirtests, recorded 216 milligrams
of alcohol per milliliter ofblood.

(51:00):
Now in the UK, the limit per forperforming aviation functions is
now get this 20 milligrams.
20.
And this person had 216.
26, dude.
We talked about this.
We talked about this before howstupid intoxicated is on an

(51:21):
airplane.
It's even utterly ridiculouswhen it's a crew member.
But then you do it into a aninto another country.
Yeah.
That's that's scary.
On stupid, right?
Because you go to prison.

SPEAKER_01 (51:34):
Well, yeah, because you don't know what the laws
are.
Yeah.
If you're not like payingattention and looking those
things up and figuring out whatthe laws are to the destination
you're going to, which nobodydoes.
Right.
Right.
I mean, you can get yourself ina world hurt there.
I mean, here's a funny thing,like, because we're gonna take
ourselves back.
Like back in the day, when wefirst got our job and we were
young flight attendants and youknow, drinking and stuff on the

(51:57):
plane.
And this is like, we're oldflight attendants.
So in the days when we weretalking about, we're talking
about before drug testing andall that stuff came in.
Like, we would go to work andflight attendants would be
sitting there having a you knowa coffee and you know, throwing
some Kluar or some Bailey's intheir coffee, and it was just it
was nothing, just a casuallittle sip here and there,

(52:17):
whatever.
That was that happenedconstantly back in the day.
And then they started, you know,saying, Oh, you know what?
The world gets started againstPark.
Alcohol on planes, doesn'tmatter who you are, is not
smart.

SPEAKER_02 (52:30):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (52:30):
You know, stupid.
And so, so like this is likegrown, and we've now, you know,
educated ourselves, and we'rehere now at a state where you
know most, I mean, most of theUS carriers, you know, you can't
drink for like 12 hours beforeyour flight.
Right.
You know.
Um, I think the FAR says eight,but the airlines even made it

(52:51):
more strenuous because theydon't want their crews
intoxicated on their plane.
But I mean, to do it in this dayand age and to do it to the
level that this person did, it'scrazy to think how many times
this person did this w withoutgetting caught.

SPEAKER_02 (53:06):
Right.
Right?
They I mean they they they didthis and this this time they
went overboard, but that'sfreaking crazy.
Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 (53:12):
I think that crew member, you know, now I'm
reflecting back.
That crew member I went toAthens with, I think she was
drunk.
Something, something.
She had a stupid.

SPEAKER_02 (53:26):
No, she just wasn't good.
I mean, we have those.
I mean, we call those out allthe time.
Now, they a lot of our fighterscan say, Oh, that's not very
nice.
But it's the truth.
We got ones just like anybodyelse, they're not good.
They're not good at it.
I mean, you know, they're justthey're not good.
They've been here for years.
We have ones that have been herefor years, and you look at them
and you're like, You haven'tbeen paying attention.

SPEAKER_01 (53:47):
No.

SPEAKER_02 (53:48):
Right?
No, you haven't been payingattention this whole time.
What were you doing?
What were you doing the wholetime?
Because you weren't payingattention to service.

SPEAKER_01 (53:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (53:58):
Because you're not good.

SPEAKER_01 (53:59):
I'm getting married this week.
What?
Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 (54:04):
What are you talking about?
That's their response.
Oh, six seven.

SPEAKER_01 (54:08):
That's their response.
Yeah.
What what were you doing backthen?
Um I get married.
I planted some flowers thismorning.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (54:18):
Anyway, um, what were you supposed to be doing?
Oh my God.
It's the truth, though.
I mean, you you guys have themin your careers.
We have them in our scene.
Dude, I mean, like, uh,craziness.
We do.
Okay, so uh last guy we're gonnatalk about him.
This guy starts undressing.
He dropped, he he dropped downto his boxers at TSA.
I mean, unless you're requested.

(54:39):
He was naked as J Bird.
Right?
I mean, they'll they'll give youa cordial little rub down.
Yeah.
I mean, but you ain't gotta goall the way down to your damn
boxes.
No.
People maybe got a littlecarried away.

SPEAKER_01 (54:53):
I mean, I I gotta say, you know, like going
through TSA can be frustratingat times.
And I mean, even for like whenwe're going through as crew
members, like we've gone througha million times, and every now
and then we'll get that TSAemployee that just rubs us the
wrong way because they're beinglike extra crazy about their
job.
Yeah, you know, like we getevery job gets it, yeah.

(55:16):
Yeah, we get through the wholething and you get frustrated.
Like I was telling you, uh, Ithink we were talking about me
coming in from Cancun, and I gotthe new hire that was like
sergeant, you know, ready to doit.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (55:27):
And he was like, Sir, hold out your hands
straight.

SPEAKER_01 (55:31):
And then like pull them up, you know.
Like it was like he was likebarking orders at me, and I was
like, dude, you need to tone itdown.
Just bring it back a little bit.
Bring it a little bit down.
I'm gonna work back.
I'm gonna work with you.
Yeah, exactly.
This is not how you work, andand and the crazy thing is his
trainer wasn't really tellingthem to tone down.
And I was like, you need todress this dude.

(55:52):
Just focus.
You're gonna have a you're gonnaairline crew member incident.

SPEAKER_02 (55:56):
Excuse me, sir.
Focus on the guy in his boxersover there to the left.
Okay, I'm I'm not your biggestthreat today.
This man over here, yeah, he'sin his boxers.
Yeah, there's a little bit of athreat.

SPEAKER_01 (56:10):
Yeah, and there's Mickey Mouses all over him.
What do you think about peopleor specifically men with long
fingernails?
Nasty.

SPEAKER_02 (56:24):
Nasty.
You need to clip them.
Dude.
That one.
They like there's some guys thathave that one long finger.
Fingernail.
What is that?
I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (56:33):
I mean, it was like a cocaine nail or something.
Yeah, it used to be like in backin the day.
I mean, back in the days,everybody would be like, oh, you
had that one nail, and they'resniffing one nail, putting put
coke in the nail.
Like that, like that pinky nail.
Right, right, right.
And then sniffing it up, andthey're like, you know, they got
their own little coke shovel.

SPEAKER_00 (56:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (56:50):
You know, but uh today's we're I don't know.
Dude, I don't ear wax.
I I like I'm having this thingright now, like, you know, me
and feet.
You know, I can't stand feet,but I can't stand long
fingernails.
And I don't care if they're maleor female, like long ass
fingernails gross me out.

SPEAKER_02 (57:08):
Guys, I mean, when but at least when a woman grows
hers out, that I mean, theypaint them.
A guy's it's like the yellowing.

SPEAKER_01 (57:17):
Well, when I see guys and they're painted, that's
a problem with that too.

SPEAKER_02 (57:21):
I know, I know that, but I'm just saying it the ones
that grow that long nail out.
Right.
Because usually it's like onelong nail.

SPEAKER_01 (57:29):
Yeah.
I just encountered this theother day.
I was out and out and about andwhatever, and I get on this
elevator, and there's this oldergentleman on the elevator, and
he was very kind and funny andstuff like that.
But I looked, I looked down andjust happened to like catch his
hand.
He had his hand out in front ofhim or whatever for whatever
reason, and he had likethree-inch nails.

(57:50):
All of them, like many of them,not all of them, just many of
them were like real long, andand they weren't painted.
It was just like, you know, thebone color.
Nasty.
It was just I was like, I almostlike projectile bombing in the

(58:11):
elevator.
But here's another thing thathappened to me on my vacation.
I wanted to kind of like, Iforgot to tell you about this,
because this shit was out ofcontrol comical.
We're in Palm Springs, we'regetting ready to go out to
dinner.
Me and uh my boy that was withme, right?
Dougie Doug.
He's like uh the all you knowworld traveler business guy,

(58:35):
right?
So I come out of my room and I'mlike, I got dressed, and I walk
out, and his wife looks at me,Kim, and she looks at me and
she's like, um, Sean?
She goes, I don't know how totell you this, but I'm pretty
sure that you and Doug arewearing the same shirt tonight.

(59:00):
You guys called each other orwhat?

SPEAKER_02 (59:03):
Did you you guys brought the same shirt?
Are you serious?

SPEAKER_01 (59:07):
We had the same identical shirt from the same
company, the whole nine years.
Like both of us are like, Idon't, I know you don't know
this company.
Did you wear it?
One of my favorite shirtcompanies called Mezi and Maine.
But did you wear it?
No, we didn't wear it.
Dude, we're in Palm Springs.
If we would have worn it, theywould have been like, there's
two gay guys and two gay girls,and they're just part of the

(59:29):
part of the scene, normalscenery here.
Exactly.
You see that there, and Doug'slike, I'm not going out with you
like that.
I go, so who's changing?
He he rolled back in roomchange, but I was like, it was
the crazy like we've been onvacation so many times with
these people, and we have neverever in the world, and like I

(59:52):
don't think I've ever seen himin that shirt or anything,
whatever, but we do like thatsame company, right?
And we bought the same shirt.
I seen a video.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:03):
I seen a video one time that all the women got
together and the men, they theybought their men all the same
shirt.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:10):
They bought their men well, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:11):
Yeah, and when and when they they were showing up
to eat at this restaurant.
They all came down in the sameplace.
Every guy, because they listenedto their wives about what they
want what they want them towear.
Right.
So they're like, Yeah, I wantyou to wear this shirt.
Just wear this.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:30):
There's a wife joke on the old.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:31):
Yeah, exactly.
All the guys had the same shirton.
That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:34):
Yeah.
So but your your case is alittle different.
Yeah, because we were liketotally unplanned.
I was just like, this is crazy.
And so now every time I'mpacking my Mezi and Main and
calling and oh FYI, for all youthat are travelers that are out
there, men travelers, and wantto know some these shirts are
amazing.
You can roll them up, you canscrunch them up, you can throw

(01:00:57):
them in your bag.
They don't wrinkle, they lookgreat.
You can dress them up, dressthem down.
It's just a great like travel.
You know, like when you findthose, like when Lululemon just
first came out with the ABCpants.
It was like, oh, these aregreat, comfortable pants.
I can go anywhere with them, andjust like they're loose and
comfortable.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:14):
And you can even call a buddy and tell him to
bring his too.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:17):
Yeah, bring yours.
Say we're at the same time.
All right, anyways, let's talkabout the inspirational quote.
So the inspirational quote isambition is good, but timing
needs to be right.
Think about that.

(01:01:37):
I did.
Right when you said it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:40):
And what do you think about that?
That ambition is good and timingneeds to be right.
Because you're your timingactually, your timing needs to
be right.
I mean, in life.
I mean, you know, it's it's theright time for something.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:51):
It it came out of that that show that I watched,
and it was um the dude thatshowed that was about his name
is Dennis Hasabasis.
Or I probably just mutilatedmutilated his name, but super,
super intelligent guy, and andit was about this.
It was about like us envisioningtechnology and us like being

(01:02:15):
ambitious to do something, andit doesn't matter how ambitious
you are, if you're not in theright time and error to do it,
it's impossible.
So even if we have like rightnow, we're in the cusp of like
having the most amazing AI, andAI's helping us in all this like
cool things right now andhealth, and you know, the

(01:02:36):
people, many people keep ontalking and saying, like, we're
on the cusp of figuring out howto you know cure cancer.
Right.
I mean, that's that'll beprofound to the human race.
But right now, like if thetechnology's not there, and it
was kind of like these guys backin like the 50s that were like
that originally thought up AI,and they were like, Oh, if

(01:02:57):
computers would be smarter thanhumans and blah blah blah and
all this stuff, and then theyrealized that the technology at
the time it ain't gonna happen,right?
So timing's everything aboutyour ambition.
That's about a 6'7.
You were just dying to say that.
I was waiting.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:14):
Hey you guys, we had a lot of fun this week.
Uh it's been a great show.
And you know, uh, just want toremind you guys uh get to the
planes, sit down, enjoy yourtrip.
God, we don't like takinganybody off.
So you guys don't don't make anyof your crews your enemies, man.
We want to take you to yourdestinations.
We want you guys to have a greattrip, and we want to see you on

(01:03:34):
the return trip because see,when you realize realize that
your iPad was was that that wasit was yours turned on, that we
can all laugh about it, and thenuh we can uh we can have a
store.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:46):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:46):
So hey, you guys have a great week, and we will
see you next time on CabinPressure.
Next week.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:52):
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