Building Black-Owned Business Success with Tasha Hayes

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bilingual podcast Keki Studias Scene Sansura, the podcast that shares
our stories without being censored on muted Yosupamkaru. And today
we have a conversation with my friend Tasha Hayes. Tasha's
on waivering commitment to her community is evident when you
step into the black print. True to this, not new

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to this. She is a long time champion of optimal
outcomes for her community. The black Print embodies deep seated
desire to uplift, celebrate, and unify the Black community and
to create the safe spaces she saw as a newcomer
to wa Chita, Kansas. Her work is guided by Maya

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Angelou's personal mission to not merely survive, but to thrive,
and to do so with some passion, some compassion, some humor,
and some style listeners. I actually went to college with Tasha,
and when I learned that she started this business, I
was like, we need to have this conversation, and of course,

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because life, we didn't have the conversation until a few
years after the black print was in existence, which I
think it was all when it was supposed to. This
conversation happened when we were supposed to have this conversation,
and it was awesome. I had a lot of fun
catching up with her and truly rebuilding this connection that

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we had a long time ago. We were roommates in college,
and so I hope you enjoy this conversation. We shared
some data, we talked about the challenges we face as
people of color and communities that don't have access to

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a lot of things, and I think what I left
with was being so inspired to truly support one another
because that's the only thing we can do. Many times
we can do more, but sometimes the only thing we
can do is buy from your local candle maker or
from your local whoever. But I win. I hope you

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enjoyed this conversation with Tasha Hay Tasha, welcome to Kata Kambab.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Thank you so much for having me here.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Thank you for being here. So you and I go
way back like a Cadillac. Yeah, like twenty has been that?
Oh my gosh, next year, next year or twenty year
like from there?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Twenty years? Well, okay, well twenty years since I arrived
at most, let's say that.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Okay, we met sophomore year.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
I don't I'm trying to like take my memory back.
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
So, but just to give the listeners a little context,
we went to college together and we were roommates. Actually, yeah,
you were one of two roommates. We were three of us.
It was three of us. Remember that time or did
you like eras from your memory?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
No, there was. That was my last stint before I
moved back to Kansas City. So yeah, that was I
think there had to be three year.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Three yeah, and we lived together for two for a
year or two years.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
A year was the year because I started in the
dorms and then I moved the first year was dorms,
second year apartment in the third year apartment with you mm.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
And it was yes, because my senior year the unnameable.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Right, Yes, So we lived together a year. That was
a lot of fun. You were working all the time,
so I do you remember?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
So nothing changed?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Correct? Correct? Because I was reading your questionnaire and I
was like, nothing's.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Changed, that is funny. Fair.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
So you were going to college, you didn't work on campus,
but you were working at UPS at that time.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah. So I was working at UPS at that time
on the overnight shift, so I was like ten pm
to six am or something like that overnight time. I
thought that, you know, I can go to class or
they have a little time to mingle and be social
in the afternoon. Didn't go work, Like what was wrong
with me?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
I know? Like literally team no sleep, you thought, I thought,
I know, And then we were loud and you would
get mad at us because you, oh, is that what happened?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I apologize. I mean that was so long ago. I
mean we were talking about like eighteen years ago. I
know has happened in eighteen years A.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Lot has happened. So graduated. Move So you're originally from Kansas.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
City, Yes, Casey J.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Are your cheaps fan?

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yes? Absolutely, I mean the whole world is at this point.
Let's be honest, right, I know.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
I was talking to my brother about this and he
was like, yeah, nobody likes like once you get a
team that like wins all the time, everyone's like ill.
But absolutely whatever we knew, we knew the Chiefs before
they were.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
What they are now exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
And fun fact, the college that we went to is
the host of their training still still.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yes, still, but they weren't when we when I was there,
they weren't the host of their training camp.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Did you graduate before me?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
No? Well I didn't graduate, So let's just clear this up.
I didn't graduate from I didn't graduate. I transferred, That's right,
I was.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
You were like, I'm working overnight shifts. These women don't
let me sleep, have to bounce.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
I changed my major, and I was like, well, since
I'm changing my major and dang years starting over, I
might as well start at a new school. So I
moved to kans City, MISSOURIUM went to the University of
Missouri Kansas City u MKC. Mm hmmm mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
And that's where you end up graduating from.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yes, that's where I graduated with my bachelor's and criminal
justice and then stayed in Kent City for a little
bit and got my master's.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
How did you make it to Wichita?

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Fun fact, Well, my dad has lived in Wichita since
I was one years one year so, and we have
been talking, like my siblings here, we're doing a lot
with child advocacy and things of that sort. And I
was in Kansas City doing the same thing. So we thought, well,
why don't we come together and build something. So then
I moved to Wichita, Kansas to build a business with

(09:44):
my family.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Is it the current business or a different one?

Speaker 2 (09:47):
It is a different one, yes, that we actually didn't
build because then the pandemic. Yes, and so yeah life changed,
well man, life changed, like yeah yeah, so and then
I got really engaged and active in the community and

(10:07):
then started own the current business that I work.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
So which I wanted to bring up the fact that
you worked all the time when we were in I've
worked all the time, but we had like different life,
Like you worked the overnight shift, and I think literally
you would come in just be like hello, go in
your room, get changed and go to work or like
sometimes sleep. I don't know. We probably didn't like to sleep.

(10:31):
And literally we would tell you like, Tasha, you're working
so much, and you'd be like, so, like what's it
to you? You know, like it's just the life of building.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
And here I am still building.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Correct. Correct. And so when you got with your family
and you were like, all right, let's build something. You
had been in Kansas City for a while and you
moved to with Chaitah, which for the listeners, Wichita, Kansas
is what's the population.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Three hundred thousand ish? Maybe is the largest city in Kansas.
I will say that. I know a lot of people
think that Kansas City, Kansas is However, Whichita is larger
than Kansas City, Kansas.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
M Okay. So there's Wichita, Kansas, three hundred and ninety
six thousand, one hundred and nineteen people as of twenty
twenty three. So you were right. Kansas City is five
hundred thousand. Now Kansas City is weird because it's a
split between like half the city is in Kansas and

(11:46):
half the city's in Missouri.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Correct. So that's where a lot of us get confused
because the actual portion that's in Kansas City, Kansas is
smaller than Wichita. And when we're talking about Kansas City,
Missouri and Kansaity, Kansas, that's when we get this pitch
sure of it being larger because it's going to populated.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Absolutely, it's kind of wild to think about that one
city is divided by two states. But that's a whole
other conversation. Yes, it's very confusing. So you make it
to Wichata and you start planning with your siblings, let's
build something for the community. What was the idea that
then the pandemic was like, oh, no, you're not right.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
So the idea was a group home? Okay, yes, So
my brother and sister in law and a couple of
my siblings worked at group homes, large scale group homes
in Wichita. I worked for the Department of Corrections in
Johnson County, Kansas, where I focused a lot on child

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and Native care, child rehab and treatment centers, and juvenile delinquency.
And so all this kind of mashes together. We thought,
we're doing a lot of good work. We don't necessarily
like how these systems are built, So let's bring all
of our experience together and build a system on a
smaller scale that could be more individualized and really focused

(13:06):
on the needs and the gaps that the other systems
can offer because they're so large. Yeah, and this was
I graduated with my master's in public administration in May,
and then I moved to Wichita that August following my graduation. Immediately,
almost immediately, I think it may have been like a thought,

(13:26):
a conversation actually at my graduation party in May, and
I was like, let me think on it. And then
by like June July, I was like, okay, let's let's
do it.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, I packed up and I had this is nothing.
I just bought a house like a year and a
half before that in Kansas, in Kansas City, and I
was like, we're putting all these eggs where we're we're
doing this thing. And packed up and came on down
the road, came south to Wichita. I took my my

(13:58):
talent south to Wichita.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
What did you do with the house?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I sold it. I would try to get it, find
a renter, tried to, like, you know, do something. It
was just a lot of work and I'm thinking, how
am I going to manage that? From Wichita? And two
and a half hours doesn't seem like that long, but
I just didn't feel like I would have the capacity.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Right, they are long. So now, just because I have
a little bit more context, I didn't know you had
siblings from your dad.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yes, So my dad had two kids before he got
married in Kansas City. He had two kids, a girl,
myself with a girl, and I have a brother in
kan City from my dad. And then my dad had
two kids with his wife when he moved to Wichita
and got married. And then his wife had two kids
prior to them getting married. So there are six of us.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Wow. So I only knew your sister from your mom.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yes, which my mom. That's my mom in Kn' City correct. Yeah,
so I grew up with my mom in Kan City.
So taj who just turned thirty last month.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Oh my god, she was like so little.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I know she she lives in La.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
What do you come?

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yes, yes, I've been there. Text I did, I did
call you. I did text you. I think I text you.
What you're like? Okay, First, what happened.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
To le Well? La is two hours from here?

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, I was thinking I was gonna say you said
it was a little far.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, but next time, I come on, make cappin or
come to San Diego.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yes, well we have really fun places. I know. I
need to get down there more. I was supposed to
be a nap at the end of this month for
the music festival, but I'm gonna change my I gotta
do some other stuff. That's a different story.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
That was really far. That's the other thing that with California,
Like people think that, oh, I'm in down Francisco and
I'm like, yeah, that's ten hours away. You know, It's
not like I.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Can't come see you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
That requires some planning. Okay. So sister is thirty wild,
she's in Lay.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yes, she's teaching dance. She's getting her she's a trainer.
She does like spin and pilates, so doing a lot
of fitness training. She dances, teaches kids dance, and then
she's also doing some dancing herself. So she was at Beyonce.
She was at Beyonce last night.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, oh how fun. That's really fun. But you got
fun videos and pictures I did.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I got a FaceTime at like ten thirty my time.
I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm trying to go to bed.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, but I'm sure it was worth it.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
It was it was It was.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Okay, so did you always have a relationship with this
other side of the siblings.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, so it was like a summer type of travel.
Come spind a week or two in the summer, then
go back to Kansas City. I'm growing up. And then
as of course, we went to college and went away,
didn't really have that, didn't spend as much time building
those relationships. But graduating, my brother went to Ottawa, which
is not that far from Kansas City. He went to

(17:14):
Otawa University, so I had ability to build a better
relationship with him while he was that close.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
And then yeah, so pandemics like you're not going to
create this thing and you're already in Wichita. You uprooted
and they were like, let's go. How did the idea
of the black print come up?

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah? So moving to Wichita, trying to find my footing.
The only people I really knew in Wichita were my siblings.
So I had five siblings. I had a sister that
lived in Colorado. My stepsister lived in Colorado. She also
relocated to Wichita at that same.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Time to build this thing.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yes, we're we're doing this thing.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
She like everyone was committed.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Everybody all hands on that we need all hands, yes,
So she moved. She had just retired military, and I moved.
And then, of course we have four other siblings that
are here or three other I'm sorry. My other brother
still lives in which in Kansas City, So we're all

(18:13):
doing it, and pandemic kit so we kind of all
just kind of try to figure out what's next like this,
we're shut down. I find a job in the schools.
I become a middle school educator. My sister she starts
working in different spaces as well, and my other siblings

(18:35):
still have their other jobs. So trying to find rooty
grounding my space in which it'll during the pandemic was
difficult as it is, but also I just couldn't tap
into my community, like where are that. My father is
a pastor, so at church, of course you naturally build
those relationships, but outside of that, I knew no one.

(18:57):
So I reached out to like urban professionals and became
engaged in those communities, which led me to then get
engaged with like Juneteenth and different festivals and other things
in the community that were sparingly meeting. And when you
go there, there are so many creative entrepreneurs, hundreds of vendors,
boosts everywhere. I mean you're seeing everything from of course

(19:20):
you have your peril and clothing, to body oils to
building apps and all across the board. So many creative
and innovative individuals. Black Business Month you see a lot
of different pop ups that are being held outside again festivals,
going to those spaces, so many amazing people and that

(19:40):
are talented. But once you leave those spaces, it's hard
for you to tap into the community because there is
no there is no hub, there's no really anyone bringing
awareness to the different brick and mortars that are available.
So I just always felt like, man, someone's got to
create a hu What are we doing outside of these vestivals?

(20:02):
What are we doing? I would try to whisper in
people's togar, like you should what about this idea? How
can we and everyoney's like, yeah, A good idea, Okay,
I'm doing my own thing. So after two years and
coming out of the pandemic, I was finally like, fine,
I'm going to create this space okay that I know

(20:22):
our community desires, and that's when the Black Priom was born.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
What was the first step you took besides getting.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
The idea Honestly, right after I got the idea, I
started looking at spaces. I'm like, what kind of space
would be conducive to an idea like this, Like what's
the right part of town. I met with some influencers.
I worked with a council member that represented mostly that
the African American district here in Wichita. Talk to him

(20:51):
kind of about what space would be good. You know,
most of us are here, but what does it look like?
What would that feel like?

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Like?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
What are some ideas. We also have a Create campaign,
which is an entrepreneur kind of incubator. They serve entrepreneurs
in several different ways. I went to her and asked
some of those same questions, like what are you hearing
from the entrepreneurs that you're serving when they're coming to
talk to you about brick and mortar? What are they saying?
What do you think the hotspots are? What would an

(21:18):
entrepreneur need in order to get their items into a
retail store. What are the barriers that they're currently facing
when they're trying to get into retail stores. So having
conversations with the people that born and raised, have been
in Wichita for years, have seen the ups and downs
and then also current black owned businesses that are in
brick and mortars? What are you experiencing having a brick

(21:42):
and mortar? You know, there are some people like, don't
do it right? Exactly do it and then you know,
but a lot of people were very helpful. There wasn't
like any gatekeeping. My main fear was that I'm not
from here, So what does that look like? I was
going to ask, Yeah, what does it look like a
transplant to come here and then been here two or

(22:03):
three years and now you're creating businesses where you're bringing
our community together when you're not from here? How can
you tell us what we need? How can you tell
us what we want? And so I think it took
me so long to even get out there and start
having those conversations because I was afraid of that.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
How did you overcome at.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Having those conversations and I think building relationships. I was
in a lot of spaces at that time. You know,
at that moment, we're coming out of the pandemic, So
I'm in a lot of different spaces on a lot
of boards, and so I've kind of tapped in with
community members that would be supportive of such idea and
also yearn for those same things to have community and

(22:44):
to build community in that way, And I think their
support really pushed me because they're born and raised here,
so you know, it's cool, you're a kancity and here,
you're coming here and you're telling us what we need.
But when you support this idea, I think that was
the head nod that it's okay to move forward.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
So let's dissect that piece because I think it's important
and key to you choosing to start it. When you did,
you were involved. So I think maybe could we say
that the first step is you got involved in the community.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, So, I think and what I see in a
lot of spaces. I've worked in the government, I've worked
in nonprofit, I've worked in now retail and things of
that sort, is that a lot of people aren't in
proximity to the community they're trying to tap into. They
in proximity in different ways from if you are looking
to start a business and you want to serve this

(23:35):
type of target audience, this is your target customer, but
you never interact with that target at any time. You're
telling them what they want. You're building things based on
what you think they're wanted. Needs are, but when are
you tapping into them to really see what they desire
for sure? So that could be I mean I'm showing

(23:56):
up to Juneteenth and I'm having conversations with those hundreds
of vendors that are they That's me showing up to
Black Business Expo, purchasing from them, building relationships with them,
testing their products to see, really if this is the
quality that we're looking to have in this space. I mean,
it would be one thing if I just showed up

(24:16):
and say here's the black print, come bring yourself in here.
But it's different when I've spent two years building these
relationships and being in those spaces. Not hey I want
your items to be in the store, but hey, I
want to know more about the story behind your product.
Tell me why you started this building business. So I'm building,

(24:36):
literally building genuine relationships. And the thing is a lot
of the things that I started out in the store
were products I was using. So the hair oil, I
had been using it for.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Two or three years from a local business.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
From a local business owner. The candles I had been
purchasing them with my own from my own home. The
room spray, I mean a number of things, beard oil,
my brother has been supporting this business for years and
he's telling me how great it is. So now I
go and he introduces me, and we already had that commonality.

(25:09):
So it wasn't again I was personally using them and
building those relationships, not just hey, I'm building a space
and I want you to come over here and bring
your skills, gifts and talents over here. But I'm supporting you.
So you see that this is genuine relationship.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
I love that. And the other thing that you chose
to have a retail space, which is like literally after
we had a complete global shutdown, and so is there
a reason why you chose to have a retail location
where like people would get like bodies in the store

(25:45):
versus an online marketplace?

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Right? I think that two different things. Again, when I'm
at juneteen, then we're there. You have the ability to
talk to them, get their stories, and build that relationship,
even if I wasn't the owner of a st or
as a customer. I enjoy doing that. And so if
you want to continue to purchase that item, you reach
out to and maybe on social media and you go

(26:11):
meet that quick trip. You're in the parking lot doing
your your little deal you know, and things that that
and things of that sort to keep those things. So
having a physical location where you can come see smell
those items was important to me. And the spaces that
I have seen a lot of times is more set

(26:32):
up like a flea market style, and I didn't want
to create any visual division between the products. I wanted
to be one cohesive story. I love that about all
the innovators, all the creators, the story behind the products.
There's when we started, we had all the products in
their story from the entrepreneur themselves. And sometimes that's that's

(26:57):
something you can't translate online through an online store. Yes,
we're really big in that c field smell.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
It's like a three sixty purchase.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Absolutely, and so and then it also is a different
impact when you can visualize all these amazing products from
all these different entrepreneurs that are right here in your community.
That's not something that you can translate online to a website.
A lot of them already had some type of online
store or online platform that they were working on building.

(27:30):
But the barrier and the challenge is really getting yourself
on a getting your products on a retail shelf. It's
not the fact that I can't get an online platform
because that's accessible to most entrepreneurs, But getting yourself on
a shelf is where there are so many challenges. And
I found through this process that two out of three

(27:51):
of black owned businesses don't make it to the fifth
year anniversary because of that accessibility, that awareness in those resources.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Two out of three, two out of three. So it's
more than fifty per I don't know the percentage, but
it's way more than fifty percent. That's wild.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yes, So when you create a space like that, that's
not only I can accessibility because I can see the
products they're here on the shelf, But then what type
of resources can we offer the entrepreneurs, what type of
marketing and stuff can we back them with not only

(28:29):
on our platform but their platform. It just goes into
a whole kind of line streamline for those entrepreneurs to
do some wrap around support. There may be some that
that come and their products aren't retail ready, but how
do we get them there? It's not like no, your
products can be on the shelf, but how can we

(28:50):
support you in getting your packaging right? You're pricing right.
It really is that whole holistic support system that's provided
when you have your items in a store.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Space big time. So, because we've been talking about how
you love working. When you started, did you have a
full time job.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yes, I did. When I started, I had a full
time a full time plus.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Well of course on brand on brand.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
So yeah, at that time, I was working for the
City of Wichita full time, and that's supporting the district
council person. So that's when we're really no, that's the whole.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
That's one that was a plus.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
And then the plus was I worked at a literacy
organization here locally as well, helping them to create programs,
program development type of thing, and so that was part time.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
So yes, I was doing and building the business.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
And building the business, and I don't know, I'm like,
you're making me think a lot about all my work.
As I'm talking, I'm like, dang, girl, you've been doing
a lot, but what you do you're making me think
like that. Bam. But no, I was doing I was
doing all that. And then truthfully, when I made the

(30:19):
decision to really move forward with this plan, that was
in August, and I wanted to be open before Christmas.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Okay, you know she has goals. Everyone has.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
I have goals. So in October it is when I
had a soft launch, and then the first of November
November eleventh is when I opened. So wow, August August
to October is the time that I spent really grinding.
I mean that's going on. I met with every single
entrepreneur individually, really had to provide them with the expectations

(30:56):
from both parties. How do we support you? How can
you support us?

Speaker 1 (31:00):
So?

Speaker 2 (31:00):
How are we going to make this a mutually beneficial relationship?
Because I don't want someone just to put products on
the shelf. Really, it's a collaborative relationship and our partnership
that we both are buying in on. So I had
individual meetings built out the space.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I'm alrssed. I mean I've always been impressed, but like
now breaking it down, I'm like bro so, who was
the first person to say yes? Who was the first
brand to say yes to you?

Speaker 2 (31:29):
The first brand to say yes was the individual I've
been buying hair oil from. She has a whole line
of shampoo oil's conditioner that I love, I love, love love,
and she was my first yes.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Nice? Who was your did anyone tell you like what
are you doing? Like? No, that's never been done before?
Or did you get any doubters?

Speaker 2 (31:53):
There's doubters in terms of like, so how is it
gonna work, like tell me again, like break this down,
and a lot of people that were just like I'm
not ready. M yeah, in which I commend them on
feeling that way, But what does that look like? What
do you mean by you're not ready? Is it fear?

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Is it the fear that's taking over that makes you
feel you're not ready? Or is like your product not
shelf ready? Are you really afraid about scaling? Like what
exactly is that? In some of those I was able
to work with them on those concerns in order to
get them ready for their mind because truthfully, I wasn't
ready to own a retail story either. If you're talking
about ready, right, I'm like government city, nonprofit girl.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yes, and very structured. I would say, yeah, you know
you cover places like your work that like you've chosen
career wise has been like you have a schedule and
there's like processes and so maybe that informs how you
work now and coming from like let's just have conversations

(32:56):
with people and like it did it feel this combobulated?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yes, because there were there were it was building the
plane while flying?

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Is what I literally.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Building while flying? Like I'm literally clocking in on my
day job at the government, which, as you said, every
day is boom boom boom. Yeah, and I clock out
of there and I'm like, Okay, who am I going
to meet with today?

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Like?

Speaker 2 (33:22):
What entrepreneurs? What products? Are we missing? A point of
sale system? What? Right? Like trying to figure it out
as I'm flying, And I so appreciate every single business
owner who entrusted me with their products at the beginning
when I was trying to figure it out. And listen,
We're hitting two years and I'm still trying to figure

(33:43):
it out every single day, and I'm so grateful that
I had those that with that bought into this mission
and are on board. Seventeen entrepreneurs you launched what seventeen?

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Wow? How many do you have now?

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Sixty six? Wow?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Are you running out of shelf space?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Sixty seven as of Monday? That's all sixty seven as
a Monday. Yeah, it's tight in there. So we're working
on I'm working with someone to help me how do
I maximize my space in the shop so that I
can have more brands? But everything still looks cohesive and
in a retail manner that creates that environment that we're

(34:30):
looking for when we're shopping. But I want to make
sure everyone is properly highlighted and gets the right attention
in space that they need to.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
I love that. Okay, let's take a quick coffee break.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
So, so, Tasha, do you drink coffee?

Speaker 1 (34:52):
It's like, way are you drinking?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Okay, they haven't sponsored yet, but maybe that would be
an opportunity for them, but that could be a good
brand to sponsor. Capic bum Actually, yeah, what flavor are
you drinking?

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Fruit punch?

Speaker 1 (35:12):
M m my favorite? Wabba? Have you had the waba flavor?

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Not enough? Not enough people have carry it.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Oh, it is a rare one.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah. The coffee shop literally downstairs in the basement they
have fruit punch and one other one mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Okay, it's clear, it's it's oh, it's the probably line. Yeah,
thank you, regular like just fuzzy water, fizzy water. Okay,
do you drink coffee? You do drink coffee.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
I do drink coffee. I've been off and on with
this coffee drinking. But I'm not a morning person, so
it helps me get the gears.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Going, how do you drink your coffee?

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Oh, lots of sugar, lots of cream.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Please, So it's like milk and yeah coffee. Well it's
way past through my coffee time, so I am drinking.
Let's see, I'm trying to think of who what I
had today. So I've been on this cocau kick. So

(36:19):
I'm actually in a like apprenticeship, I don't know what
you want to call it, to host cocao circles and yeah,
I've been really connecting with the plans. It's been super fun.
And my teacher invited infusions, so she was like, look,

(36:40):
cocao can be mixed with whatever you want. Like I
first started infusing it with coffee so it would make
my cow coffee. So it was like this mocha type
of thing. But then she kicked this off, like she
literally like she was like, I'm going to send you
some stinging nettles, which is like literally a plant because

(37:02):
that plant grows in her backyards. Is like a funny story.
So she was like, I live in La Mesa. I
live in the Mesa, Californy, And so she was like,
I live in le Mesa and in my backyard we
grow stinging nettles and they're great for anti inflammatory properties
blah blah blah. So I'm gonna send you some because

(37:22):
they grew so much. And so I got the sting
in nettles and I look the plant, and I'm like,
I live in La Mesa. Let me go to my backyard.
Love me hold, I'm growing stinging nettles in the backyard.
What And it looks like a weed, Like it looks
they're like wild. And so I've been like foraging stinging
nettles and so that kicked off my infusion journey and

(37:45):
now I infuse my cow with like all kinds of
plants literally like wow, yeah, I basically like make myself
a tea and then that tea is what makes the
cocu and then later in the day I drink coffee.
So yeah, in.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Your backyard, I have dandelions, and dandelion tea is great.
I know I've heard, but I don't know if all
dan lions should be.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah, but if you know, like, if it's your backyard,
you don't do like any.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Well, it's not really my backyard, that's the thing. It's
really just the yard that's.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
The back well. I mean, yeah, I guess I'm not
an expert and foraging, but probably depends on what kind
of soil and water.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah, I have a coworker that actually is an expert
in forging. He's taking lots of classes and trips to forgee,
so I hear about it all of the time. Oh
my goodness. They go to the lake and bring back
I don't even know. They're like these little green circle thingies.
They peel. It's like a hard shell and it has
beans in it. He makes soup and brings it back.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Oh man, that's fun.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, it's it's real. I didn't even you know, I
don't know the half. But well so, but as I
take more time to myself, I'm going to learn more
about nature and joining those things.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I invite that so much nature is cool. So this
morning I had my cacau with my little imfusion. This
morning was gojiberries and singing nettles. That's why I had
to share the story about the singing nets raspberry leaf
because I am working on my hormones and my womb

(39:28):
and fenugreek and milk thistle.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Another. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
So then I'm romedic my cow and it was like
this nice little.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Drink you drink and that's what you're drinking now.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Now, right now, I'm drinking like green tea and it's
like a it's this, it's actually it's for sigmatic, which
I if you go to dot com for slash mushrooms
then it's they're like green. I just tried it, so
that's why I'm not sure about it. It's like their

(40:05):
gut green powder. So I'm drinking now.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Hmm. Look, I'm just trying to get down with mancha
right now. I'm just trying to.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Great that can be a great replacement for coffee.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Actually, I've been working on it. That's that's what I've
been doing with mancha.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
So especially if you do it with milk. If you
do it water, you might need some food before.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, with water is a little bit grassy for me.
But with milk with maybe some oat or alm and
milk because I'm trying to stay away from the milk,
you know, I'm lactoase. Still.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yes, changes.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
I was hoping one day it was die, but it's
still here.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Yes, Yeah, I don't know. We can we can always help,
but right well, though, I've heard that it has changed
for people after they have babies.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Oh, well, it'll never check, you know.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
For you Yeah, I don't know. That's what I've heard from.
But again, I'm just this is all like people's tails,
so there's no evidence based.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Okay, let's go back to the show. So, Tasha, something
that I it blew my mind is when you talked
about the numbers because and the stretch of the dollar.

(41:36):
So let's break that down because that was fascinating and
that was mind blowing, and that was upsetting and frustrating
and all the things. So I'm gonna read the statistics
that you gave us first and then we'll talk about it. So,
on average, the black dollars stays in Black communities for
only six hours. Okay. The Latino dollar stays in Latino

(42:01):
communities for about seven days, so that stretches a little bit. However,
the Asian dollar stays in Asian communities for about thirty
days and the white dollar for seventeen days, so Asian
communities support Asian businesses longer than any other demographic and

(42:23):
black communities or yeah, the black community supports black businesses
for six hours, So tell me more about that, because
I was like, wait, what.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah, so I think we have to look at the
barriers historically that have been placed in the black community.
How many of those? How many black business owners? Do
you know? How many black businesses are we supporting that
are accessible that we're aware of because we think about
how we're marketing them. How do we get to know them?

(42:56):
In your family? If it's not your cousin or your
cousin's not telling you where mouth normally, then we're not
aware of those businesses. And again, the lack of business
is due to all the challenges the business loans that
we have access to, right the redlining from housing. I mean,
the list goes on and on and on in that
black community compared to when we look at other communities

(43:19):
that do have the access to the accessibility to get
those loans, the accessibility to get financing and build houses
and create generational wealth passed down generational well being. Having
the mindset that we're actually a community and we're supporting
one another, and how do we best do that If
we go and we build, We get a store, and

(43:41):
we're gonna work on this store until it's up and
running and becomes profitable, and then we're all going to
go take that profit and go build the stores that's
the mindset and that's the dynamic in other communities. And also,
like I said, access to those resources, we're in the
black community, we don't have that. And if two out
of three black businesses are making it to their fifth

(44:02):
year anniversary. When you're become aware of a black business,
what's the likelihood that it's going to still be there
if you if you don't support, or what's the likely
that it's going to be there? Because they can't go
tap into the bank and go get that finance. Yeah,
they don't have the resources to do huge marketing campaigns.
We have social media now, which has been helpful a
little bit, but not everybody's on there. You gotta worry

(44:23):
about your fee, your thread, who's gonna see it? I mean,
there's so many other factors that come into play when
we have to look at the root of it, which
is systemic racism. Systemically we talk about again redlining and
things of that sort that I believe play a part
into all these numbers as well. But we don't have
the places to go spend those dollars and other communities.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Do for sure. Is that why you chose to have
a retail space? Is it kind of like foundationally.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Maybe foundationally yes, again going back to that two out
of three with awareness and bringing all those things into
bringing all those things into your frame of mind. But
there's just so many challenges with getting our things on
a shelf. Whether we don't have the stores, so we
have to go beg someone else to put our things

(45:10):
in their.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Space, especially now with all these budgets being cut.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
And when we're talking about we look at what are
the big box stores doing. They're drawing back on those
DEI things. So when there was an event that happened,
George Floyd situation happens and we're all rooty, we want
to get behind black owned business owners. We're going to
give you an opportunity, put you on the shelves. We're
going to create initiatives so you have a better chance

(45:38):
it's not as challenging. We're going to remove those barriers.
Black owned entrepreneur, black businesses brands are like, yes, great,
thank you for giving us an opportunity. I'm going to
scale my business twenty five thirty percent so that i
can meet your your benchmarks in order to get my
things there. And the first opportunity that they had to

(45:59):
remove those initiatives, they remove those initiatives. Now we have
black owned businesses who are fouling for bankruptc bankruptcy because
they scale to reach the big benchmarks to get into
a store, said store M. And as quickly as they
did that, those contracts were tore up and ripped up,

(46:23):
and now they're fouling bankruptcy.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Yeah, let's break that down, because I don't know if
a lot of people understand how that retail space work.
And I used to sell to like I used to
work in account like. It wasn't my product, but I
used to work on account to one of those I
don't want to name names, but it's one of those big,

(46:48):
huge companies where you pay a membership to get in.
And so how it worked was, if you want your
products on my floor, and this is literal conversations I
had with the buyers, if you want your products on
the floor, we're gonna send you a million dollar po

(47:09):
a million dollar purchase order. Once you get the million
dollar purchase order, it's a net sixty pay, meaning you
need to have enough product to fulfill a million dollars
because the distribution, it's not for just one store. And
sometimes they do do which is where the DI programs

(47:30):
came in. Where the D programs were like, Okay, we're
gonna work with businesses that may bee not equipped to
fulfill a million dollar order in twenty days, which is
or fifteen days sometimes, but we'll cut it to five
hundred k a five hundred thousand dollars PO, and we
choose specific what are they called locations where we're going

(47:52):
to launch the product. When those programs get cut, we
go back to you need to be able in Sometimes
this is like at least a million dollar This is
you know, ten years ago, so now it's probably three
I don't know. And so that's where the barriers come
in for businesses to show up in retail locations because
when you go to your local big Buck store and

(48:14):
you're like, oh, I'm so glad they have this black
owned business, I think it's important to break down all
the things that that business had to go through to
have those products there, which is being able to fulfill
those huge pos being able to not get paid for
sixty days, and also being able to invest in marketing,

(48:36):
because something that I don't think it's talked about, and
I don't know if that every Big Buck store does it,
but we had to pay on top of the bo
on top of fulfilling the product. First, we had to
pay a percentage of the PO as marketing so they
could show up in the like online presence banners, like

(48:57):
whatever it is. So getting in this store is not
like the win. It's just like one thing, correct, because
you still have to pay for our marketing basically, and
you have to like tell everyone to like come by
at the store because that will tell the store that
people want it. It's a whole thing. And so this
is why I think what you do is really powerful

(49:18):
because I think you're allowing people to not to still
be in retail without having to break their business because
not a lot of people are at that place, right.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
And for some people that aren't really familiar with retail,
that means that they're producing more. That means I'm scaling
my business. So I only produce this one hundred what
one hundred widgets a month? Now in order to get
into this space based on their contract, I have to
produce a thousand widgets a month.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Right, And where's the capital that you don't get paid
for months?

Speaker 2 (49:52):
You don't get paid for months. And I've run into
some people who have to call like, hey, do you
remember the invoice I sent you six months ago? Your minds?
I mean, I've already spent the time creating the product,
got the bottles, you know, all the goods, the supplies,
and invested in creating those products. But now you're gonna
pay me sixty sixty days, six months whenever you feel

(50:16):
like it. Because you remember, you're calling account managers at
large companies. You're not the only account Imagine how many
accounts a large box store has that they're trying to
swift through all that. And then also when you said
the marketing you see like Essence Festival. I've been to
Essence Festival, any large festivals where you see these companies

(50:38):
are highlighted there. Those companies more than in most cases
paid to be there. Yeah, and that box stoor is encouraging, Hey,
we really want you to be a party here. It'll
be ten thousand dollars yes, on top of it, and
I want you to give away X amounts of your

(50:58):
product for free.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
On top of and then you have to travel the team,
you have to set up to booth. It has to
be high quality because you know thousands of people will
be there.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
And so this is your one shot. This is your shot.
So then you got to pay. Well, they don't just
get there and think, oh, let me come over here. Now,
you got to have you all your market and stuff
on point. So, I mean, this bill is racking up.
And then at the first opportunity I can draw back,
I can pull the rug from under your feet. I mean,

(51:34):
I have at least three companies that have been in
those large stores and their contracts have been canceled. And
although we can do we can at the blackprint to
bring them in and introduce them to our audience. Unfortunately,
sometimes it's not enough.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yeah, it's thousands of products probably.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
And they've skilled so much to get into locations across
the country.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Oh and then they have to, like I'm sure, because
we had to pay for the truck to get the
products there, take the products back. I'd say another thing
that And again I can only speak for my experience.
I don't know if every contract is like that, but
at the end of the year, I believe whatever didn't sell,

(52:18):
we took it back. Yeah, and so this one million
dollar po or three million dollars like whatever it was,
it wasn't like it was all it was a facade
because ultimately at the end, it was like, all right,
if we paid you for a million products, and we
paid you the million dollars just like keep the numbers easy,

(52:43):
but you only sold eight hundred thousand, then we need
the two hundred thousand back for a small business that
could break you totally.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Completely break you in. And I've had these conversations that
I'm fortunate, but it really open my eyes to how
they operate. Like a lot of times, I think I
thought this was a great idea because of the challenges
I seen, but I didn't even know and recognize the
challenges of that entrepreneur that are dealing with those accounts
and stuff. So honestly, this year I've spent so much

(53:17):
more time meeting with them and just even if it's
a little bit of encouragement, I can do what I
can do and we can purchase here. But what it's
also allowed me to do is be a connector because
although I can only do so much at my store,
I work and know so many other brick and mortar owners,
so I'm helping connect them to these entrepreneurs as well.

(53:39):
Maybe I can only buy an allotment of fifteen this store
can do fifteen that store, So building those relationship and
helping them be a word of mouth. We have again
so many great entrepreneurs that aren't getting the chance to
be on shelves. So it behooves me if I hold
all that to myself. But how can I now connect

(54:01):
you to other people and maybe all together as a
community we can We're going to do what we can
to keep you moving, yeah, and keeping that rowing. But
that that's been my mission really this year is to
help get now these brands into other spaces as well,

(54:22):
and try to use a proximity thing.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Of course, you don't want to saturate a certain area,
you know with this, yes, but it's really been a
great opportunity to meet people where they are and to
see how we can support and create a movement more
than just a retail store.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Yeah, and loyalty and you know, increase the six hours
to forty five days.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Right right absolutely? And then that I mean, we don't
want these businesses. We don't want to keep this statistics
of two out of three businesses making it five years.
We don't want to keep that going. We don't definitely
don't want to see it increase but we also don't
want to allow political motivated situation to continue to impact

(55:09):
our small business owners who have given so much of
their time, so good to their their energy, their creativity.
They're bringing all these great things, and we just continually
let them down by not supporting them and supporting their
brands and helping him keep the moment I'm going when
we are doing so so good and being innovative.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Agreed, So what's the next goal for the black print?
What does ICT mean?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Oh? ICT is our area code or I'm sorry, not
our area code, our airport code up so and and
also I've been in a couple of groups that we've created.
It's in community together.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Oh I love that.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yes, So in WHICHITA, I know, like coming from Kancity,
nobody's like Joe's Smoke Shop MC, which is the airport coding,
but in which is all it's so prevalent that a
lot of businesses and a lot of movements have I
c t on there. So we kind of joined join
that wagon. But I love the thought of it standing

(56:14):
for in community together because that's exactly what we're doing,
is building a community here. So you ask what's next,
and that's it? Taking it from just I spent those
first really year year and a half on building the
retail space, getting those brands on there, helping to expand
building systems that make it work because although there are

(56:35):
a lot fewer barriers for people to get in, we
also have expectations for everyone to make sure that we're
upkeeping this mutually beneficial relationship. But now we're going beyond
the four walls in that we're bringing attention and awareness
to the other black on brick and mortars in our space.
So we've done things like having a bus tour where

(56:57):
we go around to those different business.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Fun I know it was Lust Tour in San Diego.
Can I take that please?

Speaker 2 (57:07):
It's yours, it's ours.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Let's do it. How fun?

Speaker 2 (57:12):
I know. We had brunch and we got a lot
of community support behind that and got sponsors to pay
for the bus, for swag bags for all the things
we had brunch, a good brunch like chicken and waffles
and bacon and eggs and fruit, I know, good food, mimosas.
And then people loaded on buses. And there are five
businesses that's within probably a mile radius, and so we

(57:35):
created like a shuttle system through those businesses in November
to get people geared up for Christmas shopping.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Yes, So that was fun and that's the type of
movement that I want to the next stage and creating
this movement is to bring awareness, bring attention, but make
it in a creative and innovative way. I mean, we
can put out marketing and say don't forget to shop here,
but really, how do we get people in the door.
We need people in the door once you know about it,
once you see all the great things that you can do,

(58:06):
from making hand poor candles to we had some beauty
and lock specialists on their black On bookstore, coffee shop,
cheesecake factory, which is delicious, yeah, and all that good stuff.
When people get out there and they're more aware of it,
they will be there to support.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Correct. Have you noticed an increase in like, have your
business owners that you work with shared an increase in
sales and loyalty customer loyalty?

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Absolutely, So we started with that that we did. We've
done two walking tours since then, since November, and they
definitely have noticed the impact of that traffic and how
many people walk on the doors, Like, oh my gosh,
I never knew And so we have a running joke
now because on one of them, that's what the person said,
you need to call this. I never knew tour because

(58:58):
we're just doing and we have some great businesses that
are always on board to open their doors, doing giveaways,
doing what they can to support one another. And that's
the other thing it is as business owners, as entrepreneurs,
how can we support each other? You know, we have

(59:20):
the jay months when traffic is slow, so how can
we collaborate to do some type of events to keep
people coming in, to engage people, to market each other's businesses.
When I'm out doing a pop up, Hey do you
have some some flyers I can throw in the bags
with my with my We're not in competition with each
other totally. So to raise this six hours in our community,

(59:42):
we've got to find ways as a community to lift
for all tides, rides together. I think it's a quote.
We've got to find a way to do that, and
collaboration has shown and proven to be one of those
ways that we can do it. So moving forward, that's
what we want to do. Continue to collaborates, continue to
create bents, create safe spaces, and grow those numbers. Offering

(01:00:07):
brands a permanent, supportive home where they can be introduced
into the community that values their creativity and not try
to diminish it by undercutting their prices. Supporting them full price.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Yes, oh yes, that's another thing. Don't ask for no haggling,
no haggling.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
You don't go anywhere else and haggle, don't haggle your friends.
Don't haggle your friends.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Yes, pay full price. Indeed, indeed, what about a franchise?
Is the black print going to become a franchise? I
can see it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
So we're working on some things right now. We're doing.
Our franchising is helping get those business get those products
in other spaces as well. We have some people businesses
reach out like I love what you're doing. You know,
do you want to be in this space, in that space?
And what I always and welcome to do is curate
a gift shop for anyone. So we can call it

(01:01:10):
franchise adjacent.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
But a licensing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Yeah, well, you will see our products and the brands
that we have in other spaces where we curate a
gift shop with the brands that we work with specifically
for their location, specifically for their target audience. We're also
doing a lot of corporate gifting. So we're working with
relatures and lenders on welcome home gifts for their clients.

(01:01:38):
There's all black owned, locally made products. Creating a nice
gift basket for them with that, that's an option that's
going to be released soon on the website. And working
with corporate organizations that want to give to their employees
it's teacher appreciation Day. We're creating a lot of those

(01:01:59):
gift things because because why not curate a specially handmade
gift basket that's are not also very nice, but it's
also supporting a meaningful mission.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
And it's like when I get gifts that are like
from your local whatever, I'm like cards saved and yes,
give the next gift from that person.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Absolutely, And that's that's exactly that that energy we're trying
to spread throughout the city. Is that imagine the six hours,
these seven days, that thirty days at seventeen days being
stretched longer because we are keeping our money at home
in our communities instead of always leaning towards convenience or

(01:02:45):
what we think is quick, fast and in a hurry.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Yeah, agreed, So Tasha, this has been fun. Tell us
all the places and spaces where we can find you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Yes, I'm on Facebook, Instagram at the black print ict
or black Print icee Te. Website is blackprintict dot com.
Please follow us, like, share, keep in touch. We have
some cool things we're going to be rolling out soon.
And remember remember the statistics on that when you're going

(01:03:23):
to spend your dollar invest in your communities, small local businesses,
it's going to create a lasting impact.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
One. You know what I do, and I'm going to
share this to invite listeners to consider doing this. Sometimes
I go to like in my case, is check on
a park, so it's the barrio, you know, it's like
it's it's Latino neighborhood. And I shop for things that
I like, I think, oh I could give this, and

(01:03:53):
so I just kind of have like a stash in
my house of things that I've purchased that are like
like it's their brand, you know, they're from that day
when I purchase them. So when like there's a birthday
or I'm going to meet with somebody or whatever, I
already have something and I don't have to like, oh
my gosh, I have to make my way there. To
piggyback on your comment of convenience, make it convenient, you know,

(01:04:15):
like invest in the neighborhood or in the local businesses,
and then like have a little drawer of gifts and
it's super fun because then sometimes I'm like, oh, like recently,
my friend had a birthday and I went to my
little box and I found some earrings from a local
person and I was like, oh, she's gonna love these,

(01:04:38):
you know, So that's my invite to everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Yes, And it's so fun. I mean, I don't go
to a box store and get understand the value behind
this product or whatever I'm buying. But when you're buying local,
you know where they're from, you can see their stories,
hear their stories, understand in the brand story. I mean,
I'm just invested in the product more now I'm utilizing

(01:05:05):
it with joy, like ooh, I know shame made with
shade butter.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
You know, I feel the kitchen, but.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
It is clean and safe to you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
And it works and skin is moisturized.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
There we go and you most of the time you
know what's in.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
It exactly, and if you don't, you can ask. As
a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Absolutely, that's the thing because a lot of this other
stuff we don't know what's in it. We're not sure
what we're using.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Mm hmm. There's a well, I guess they're local. So
they're in Julian Salmon, Sandia. They're in Julian, which is
like a next city. And she it's funny because their
husband wife, and he's a formulator for like all this
skin things, skin products, and she's the one that goes

(01:06:00):
and vents basically. And I got a face mask, like
a like a powder something for like to make a
face mask and so, and I was like, so she
gave me a sample of something else, and she was like, Okay,
I'm gonna give you a sample because you know you
buy from me, so like I want you to try it,

(01:06:21):
tell me like how you feel. And I'm like, but
what's in it? And she's like, I don't know yet
because he makes things. And then he's like, go try
it out and then he like breaks like breaks down
the formula. Right, Okay, I mean, as long as it works,
I'll tell you how I feel. But I know I
trust that it's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Safe, right absolutely. And that's the thing. And that's really
why I started buying a lot of these local main
products is because I have sensitive skin. I have pcos
and I can't be using all that those chemicals and
things on my skin. So I started using local and
I'm just falling in love and there's no turning back.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
There's no turning back. Indeed, last three questions, do you
have a remedy you want to share with us?

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
A remedy I want to share with you. So a remedy.
I want to make it correlated to the business. But
I'm going to talk about something that Mama taught me.
Is you drink ginger ale and you eat those saltine
crackers if your stomach hurts. So if you're eating things
that upset your stomach, rely on that. I promise it'll
get you through. Every time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
I think it does work. See it does, and I
don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't
know the signs behind it. But it's one of those
things that do work.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
But it's a combination. You have to have both, it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Has to be both. Indeed, yes, do you have a
quota mantra you live by?

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Absolutely? My quotes that I live by. It is my
mission in life is not merely to survive, but to thrive,
and to do so with some compassion, some humor, and
some style.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
I love that. Bye, Maya Angelo, the one and only
do you have a productivity to tip, trick or tool
you want to share with us?

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Productivity, chip, trick or tool is the power, the rule
of three or the power of three. So start your
day with your top three priorities. These priorities may be
something that you may be like, I really don't want
to do this, But if you start your day with
those and get those out the way, you can keep
on moving and pushing through the rest of the day

(01:08:28):
because you know, those things that I was really hesitant
and didn't want to accomplish, I've already knocked those out
the way. The world is mine baby, mm hmmm mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
And the last question, how are you taking a restorative
pause today?

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Bye? Preparing for my ten day unplug?

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Are we taking a ten day sabbatical?

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
We are? It starts on side starting well, it starts Sunday.
I'm a prestart sata. Okay, Yes, my pa unplug is
going to take place in Aruba, and I am so excited.
So what I know, I'm so excited. I have not
taken an intentional pause unplugged since I've opened the store,

(01:09:17):
and I am. I am so excited. I am so excited.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Yeah, I'm excited for you. That's awesome, I know. And
how do you feel about leaving the store?

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
You know, I'm a little anxious about it, honestly, but
I am at peace with the fact that whatever happens
happens while I'm gone. I mean, as long as everyone's
safe and know nothing's harm, I am good. I am ready.
I am so ready. I just have a few more
things to tie up, and I am I'm on my way.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
I love that. I thought about one of my clients
who who's like when I'm like, how do you feel
about leaving your business? And she's like, I'm insured, And
I'm like, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
That's that's exactly what my friend and I talked. She said,
So what's the deductible, right? I was like, I'm good,
I'm good, I'm we got this. Yeah. Maybe I'm just
trying to amp myself up, like I'm good. Oh god,
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
I'm sure once you get there, you're gonna be able
to breathe and be.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Like, yeah, it is, it's gonna be great.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Well, thank you Tasha for coming to capa combum. This
was fun.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Thank you so good to catch up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Likewise, so that was my comma with Tasha. Let me
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