October 9, 2023 • 37 mins
Join us for an exceptional encounter as we continue to delve into the life of Elizabeth Stewart Williams, whose faith journey has been a testament to the transformative power of a devoted Christian upbringing. Elizabeth shares about her early childhood household dynamics of " the teachings of the Bible were not just preached, but lived".
As we progress in our conversation, Elizabeth shares the intimate details of her personal battles during her transition from high school to college. In addition, she shares how she navigated her trials, kept her faith alive amidst the challenges that threatened her connection with God when she was violated.
Finally, Elizabeth's shares her dramatic wedding day story and how she stood firm, choosing joy over chaos. Elizabeth's story is more than just her personal life and faith journey; it's a testament to the undeniable power of unwavering faith, God's grace, and the strength one finds in adversity. Join us for this inspiring narrative of spiritual resilience and the commitment to faith.
Plan of Salvation:
- Hear: Romans 10:17
- Believe: Hebrews 11:6
- Repent: Acts 17:30-31
- Confess: Matthew 10:32
- Be Baptized: Mark 16:15-16
- Be faithful unto death: Revelation 2:10
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, college was not my yay moment, and when I mean
by that is like I had some major, major things that came at me,
right.
So actually.
So my freshman year I was, Iwas actually raped in college,
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which was like Didn't tell,didn't tell anyone, didn't tell
anyone, and it was crazy becauseI was a very proud version.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Welcome to the call by God podcast with Adne Godin
and myself, nixon Sylvain.
This show is about dialogues ofbiblical characters and
testimonies of Christians whosubmitted to the will of God.
Each week we bring on one guestso that they can share their
story how they were called byGod.
I hope this show inspires you.
(00:59):
Enjoy hello world.
Welcome to another week ofElizabeth Stewart Williams
testimony.
I hope you enjoy this episode,so sit back and enjoy the ride.
Be blessed.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
So, my dear sister, I want you to expound on the
discipling part that yourparents did for you and your
siblings, because what Irealized for me that I came into
the body and I was baptized.
I wasn't discipled.
So the unnecessary stuff that Iendured and now Learning to
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fall in love with Jesus, to meis unnecessary.
Your parents taught you To fallin love with Jesus before you
got into a relationship withJesus.
So please share with ourlisteners the impact, the work,
the Assignment and everythinguntil you saying yes to Christ.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
They took the time.
So and actually let me go evenI'll go deeper with it, because
they were very my parents werevery strategic and purposeful in
making sure that we, we reallyunderstood the word and but it
wasn't just about the word, itwas about living it right.
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So Go back my Saturday mornings, right?
So my Saturday mornings with mybrothers and sisters included
Us going out into the community.
We were, you know, cleaning outcrack houses, we are.
We were feeding the homeless.
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We walked the streetsUnapologetically.
My dad will literally have on ahat that had church of Christ on
it and Literally would have ourhands going door to door
unafraid.
I know this day and time is soit may be a bit different, but
even if you think about backthen that area, the time is like
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he was very strategic in it,but but in a scene that.
So we're like, you know, five,six is four of us.
So my sister, my sister wasyoung, three, three, four.
I'm what I'm like.
I'm like seven, eight years oldand we're literally what you
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were called Evangelizing.
I talk about, like my olderbrother, genesis and yes, his
name is Genesis like the firstbook of the Bible, oh, and then
my other brother, like, would beright there with the Bible in
our hands telling about the loveof Jesus.
But it wasn't judgmental, itwas just respecting where people
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were in their life and the waythat my, my dad, delivered the
message was hey, I can show yousomeone who could elevate you,
you know, and so, working, hehad a program body and soul.
So he would give a food for thebody, which was preaching the
word, and then food, art, foodfor the soul preaching the word,
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and then food for the body, andwe would pack up Meals for
people in the kitchen and afterthey got food for the soul, they
would get food for the body.
And he became just reallyrespected in the community.
But we saw that we saw baptismsand we saw prostitutes who left
that lifestyle, and we saw, wesaw those who were addicted to
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drugs change your life, homelesspeople Change, like.
We saw all of that and and weworked it and so from from bad,
being able to see that.
And Then, at the same time,they taught us at home.
So, and the teaching at homewas so big because it wasn't the
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type of teaching that you know,the baby, I call it the baby
steps.
You know that you think thatkids don't understand.
My parents were very deep-seatedand purposeful in the
conversations to where you wouldask the question why.
You know, like, why did thisoccur, why did that happen?
And with those questions youhave to transition to Identify
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the why.
So he took us to the libraryand we learned about the
different things, that thedifferences between what, what
the church is and what the worldclaims to be, and so so I
understand the differencebetween Catholic Presbyterian,
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and I learned that at a veryearly age.
I understand the differencebetween method is my dad even
took us.
He, we, my brother had aquestion about priests.
He literally took us to theCatholic Church and sat down,
and that's when we found outabout traditions you know that
they are closely aligned withtradition and so he took us.
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If we have a question, he wouldliterally take us and and we
were identified and then askedthe questions ourselves.
And so it is.
It was definitely.
And then, on top of that, theytook time.
Like I talk about how we got upas a family.
We worked out as a familybefore school.
You know All those years wethought, oh, they really believe
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in my talent.
No, they really, they reallybelieve in making sure that we
understood you take care of yourbody because this is borrowed,
this is not sure it's to justhave, it's a gift, and so you're
learning all of these thingsand then you're like man, he
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loves me.
So even when we saw, like anexample, when my father did
transition, there were issues.
You know, as a PK, your fathercan be preaching one Sunday and
then Wednesday or Sunday youknow he's no longer preaching
for the church.
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That's just that's howcutthroat it can be and you're
angry and you're upset anddifferent things like that.
But you're like.
We saw, even in that transition, his response and the way he
moved with that and then he dovedeeper and to make it sure that
we understood like this is life, this is how the church can be,
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those are the people, but itnever negates how God loves you
and that understanding andthat's really the.
That's when I was like man, I'mnot, my dad is covered, I'm not
covered, and it was.
It was a falling in love withhim from that point and it
became even to this day that'sthe blessed part I never want to
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leave him because I know whatthat looks like.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I know what that I've seen it, you know, experienced
it, so yeah, I'm so appreciativethat you shared that, because
we have a lot no, honestly, wehave a lot of parents now in the
body that push sports, thatpush cheerleading, that push
acting, that push this, but theydon't push Jesus right.
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But then you want your child toget baptized, but your child is
getting baptized without anunderstanding and a relationship
with Christ, right?
So something for me when my sonmade the decision to get
baptized, I gave him the littlebit of learning that I got.
I did my best to disciple himright, and now he's living with
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his father, who's anon-Christian.
You understand what I'm saying.
So now it's like what I taughthim.
It's kind of going out thewindow because it's not that
deep rooted.
I gave him what I got.
Mine was not as deep as itneeded to be right, so his
teaching was surface.
Because he's in band now and inband he compromises Wednesday,
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which is Bible study, versussaying, oh, I'm sorry, I don't
practice on Wednesdays becausethis is the day that I go to
Bible study, so there's acompromising there.
So I'm gonna say this parents,this walk is serious.
You wanna know why yourchildren fall asleep in church?
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Because you're not teachingthem at home, you're not
evangelizing them, you're notdiscipling them, you're not
showing them Jesus right, thelove of Christ.
Instead of them going tobasketball or football on the
weekends, how about you takethem to downtown to feed the
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homeless and show them how totreat these people with respect,
because that's what Jesus didright?
Jesus loved people and in thesame process, he discipled
people.
If we want the church to grow,it's time for us to go back to
discipleship and not justbaptizing period, because you
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could baptize your child all youwant to, but if they haven't
fallen in love with Jesus, theyjust wet.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
That's real.
And I'll even say this, eventhough I stated before all my
brothers and sisters like we allplay sports, we were deep in it
, but you don't compromise orlet it go, for you don't let go.
The reason why you're doingsports is because you're
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honoring the gift that God hasgiven you.
So if you're going to play itand you're going to do it well,
that's great, do it well.
But understand the only reasonwhy you're able to do what you
do is because of the one thathas given you the gift to do it,
and that's one thing.
Like my son now, he justcommitted to Kansas and that's
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the biggest thing that I let himknow is that the only reason
you're at this stage and thatthis now is to glorify God?
So if you're, if you're layingdown God, then what?
What is it all for?
Everything that you're doing isfor the kingdom.
Everything that you're doingright, so it's, it goes back to
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like you, you, you say, my sis,the love is, I mean like in,
like you have to love him.
And that's the first amendment.
That's what people miss.
The first commandment says tolove.
Love thy God with all yourheart, your mind, your soul,
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your like everything in you.
That is the first commandment.
So I definitely would agreethat my parents really embedded
that into the time and I'm sothankful because my father could
have went and they're like alot of preachers do, like they
go out and they go teach andthey travel and they do a whole
lot, but then that's the elementthat's missed at home, and he
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purposely made sure that weunderstood and we knew.
And that's really what carriedme, because I don't, I don't
know how I would have made itthus far if that wasn't the case
.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So amen, amen.
Yeah, thank you for sharingthat, sister Liz.
And what I like about yourstory is that we actually took
time talking about when Godcalled you from darkness into
his light, because, like you, wereally methodically walk
through that process, because Iwant the unsaved, or even those
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that's in the body, to reallyunderstand the significance of
salvation.
This is not something like, ohyeah, yeah, I got baptized, I'm
done that.
This stuff is real.
It's like a relationship, right?
We all been in relationships.
You know, when you help happento find somebody you like and
you dig in them, you do whateveryou can.
You want to dress nice, youwant to get a haircut?
I don't have a haircut, honey,if you listen to this, I'm going
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to get a haircut soon.
But anyway, we do whatever wecan to look good, nice outfit.
We take our time, we dohomework on a person, you buy
them flowers, you do whatever itis, and I believe our
relationship with Jesus Christwill be larger than the
relationship with humanity orman.
You know, love God.
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You said love God with all yourheart, all your mind, likewise
even your neighbor.
So Jesus Christ, he paid theprice for all of us and because
we're not doomed to damnationbecause of what he did for us.
We should have more of agreater love for him, and that's
my approach.
When I think about the Lord'sSupper and Salvation, I'm like
God, you did that for me.
Come on, that is amazing.
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So I thank you, elizabeth, forwalking us through that, because
I want our listeners to reallyunderstand and get it, but also
I know as Christians I alwayssay this I got a real crowd out
there.
They're like yeah, she's tellingus all the good stuff and I
know so what most people don'tknow.
You have a master's in disputeresolution and I know you always
(14:27):
.
You got a woman with manytalents, you got pressure jewels
, you got a Bible woman'sministry group and you're a
media and a founder of LizYvonne dispute resolution
services, and also you're thefounder I am pro se.
So we and all of these aredealing with conflict resolution
ministry and domestic violence.
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So you're going to have to takeus back.
I mean, you're going to have totake us way back, because a
person that gave their life tothe Lord at 10 years old you
know Satan is after you.
Satan ain't happy.
You've been in the body ofChrist for a long time and I
want people to understand thatwhen you accept, like you're a
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Christian now you decide to be afollower of the disciple of
Christ, satan is upset.
Oh, satan is upset.
So I want you to take us backto holl it.
All this come about, especiallywhen I, just because I know
about the domestic violence, Iam pro se.
Take us way back.
Let me get my pop.
You got your pop.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Get your pop.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Oh no, what happened?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Okay, so, so, let me okay.
So, my high school, I'm a goal.
We don't start there.
My high school awesome, I hadasked.
You know some people like Ihate it.
I loved it.
Listen, loved it.
Hands down, great, felt like Iwas so close with the Lord, um,
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exceled at sports, excelled atacademics, god.
So I went to, I ended up goingto a university of Oklahoma.
Oh, you, um, my first, you,almost there's a time and space
that you, you come to, uh, afteryou have been in Christ for a
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while.
And I realized so there'slevels to this thing.
There's levels and being inChrist and man, college was not
my yay moment, and when I meanby that is like I had some major
, um, major things that came atme, right, so, actually.
(16:40):
So my freshman year, I was, Iwas actually right in college,
which was right, didn't tellanyone, didn't tell anyone, and
it was crazy because I was avery proud virgin, very proud,
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no joke, and so it was almostlike everything was cause,
that's all I, that's to me, thatwas the glory to be that right
Strip stripped away and I'm likewhat am I now?
Now the piece, even thoughthere was such a blessing in
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understanding and being soconnected with Christ.
The balance part that I believethat was missed and I wouldn't
even say it was so much missed.
I would actually say that I didnot understand was that, even
though many Christians getsucked into, you gotta do this,
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this, this, this and this.
And if you don't do this, this,this, this and this, like you
just not gonna make it rightBecause I had such I understood
God loved me, so I still thereare those that do this, this,
this.
If you don't stay, if you'renot in this box and it doesn't
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look this way, then oh no, likewhat are you gonna do?
Right?
And I?
So my freshman year, and youcan see where my grades went
down.
Like cause I was, I was numberwhat 20?
Like we had a thousand in myclass, I was top 10%, 20.
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When I got to college, I was inthe top 10, like just ridiculous
.
That first semester and thatsecond semester wouldn't happen.
I did not get out of bed unlessmy mother.
My mother knew something waswrong.
She didn't know what.
She called me every day.
Mama was into him.
She called me every day and Iwas like like I would not get up
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unless she called me and shecontinued to do that until I
slowly which goes back to what Iwas saying and understanding I
had to come to the realizationhe still loves me, like, oh, he
still loves me.
This happened and it tried todestroy me, but he still loves
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me, right, and it took.
It took a lot for me to get tothat point and no one knew.
No one knew what are theheaviness.
And by nature I'm a fighter.
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I come from the lineage of David.
Me and Peter ride together Likehe got one ear, I got the other
, me and Paul.
I would have been right there.
Get it, paul, you know, andthat's those.
But this is the thing that Ilearned about myself.
There's a core in you, that andit's a core carnality in you
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that you have.
That the devil wants to comeout and God is saying no,
replace it with me.
And you have to learn that coreabout you.
You have to learn what worksand what doesn't with God.
That's the key, like what workswith God, what doesn't work
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with God, what you have to.
I go to church.
People say, oh, man, you alwaysgo to church?
Yes, because if I don't, youdon't wanna see what can come
out.
Like there's a core there.
So I work, I have to learn.
I didn't miss church Like Ifound.
I had to find a church.
I was like this church isn'tworking.
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This we drove and at the timemy brother was with my older
brother.
He attended OU at the same timewith me and we would miss it,
wouldn't miss it.
It was almost like I need Godbecause I gotta figure this out
and I gotta work because I stillhave to see what God sees in me
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, even though this hastranspired.
So that was actually my firstexperience dealing with dealing
with what I would say what thedevil tried to destroy in me,
like he tried to destroy that.
So that was the first.
So I dealt with sexual assaultand I couldn't coming out of
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sexual assault during thattimeframe.
You were ostracized Like youdid.
Especially I was in sports, soI was around athletes.
You don't do that and if you dodo it, I mean they gonna hang
you out.
So at that time I'm lookinglike I gotta keep this and I
kept it.
I kept it until what?
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A week after I graduated I gotmy bachelor's and I got made at
home, but I kept it, and my mom,that's the only reason why I
got up every day.
She called me every day.
They, she didn't call me a lady, but that was far and in
between.
But that's how I made it.
And then that's how I begin tolearn man, god, okay, you still
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love me, I Can still go, I cankeep going, because I felt like
a failure, which that's the partof, that's the part that the
devil wants, especially forwomen.
The devil wants because we arethe only thing Created from life
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.
If you read Genesis, chapter 2,everything else man, birds, the
files of the air, the, the grass, that everything else was made
from the ground.
The question is, why didn't hemake woman from the ground?
Because she wasn't supposed tobe made from the ground.
She was supposed to be madefrom life because she is the
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solution.
She is the solution forloneliness.
That's the help me part.
She gives life, she's supposedto give life.
When she comes into a room andwhat the devil tries to do,
especially with anything dealingwith Violence, anything dealing
with assault, anything likethat, is the devil is trying to
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Take out the life.
He wants us to walk around dead.
But that was the beautiful thingabout Christ.
If I'm in Christ and he, christis covering me, I have life
Right and I've come out of theworld and I'm in him, I am, I am
.
He is the truth, I am life andthis is what I'm supposed I'm
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supposed to be.
I cannot be, and that's thedangerous part is, when you get
yoked with someone which will gointo that go.
You get yoked with someone whois dead, like your life, and
you're yulking with someone'sdad.
But that was so.
My college that was.
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That was like a, that was abeast and at the same at the
same time.
So I'm coming out of college.
They are graduated the day Ileft and I and I Get to.
I get back home to Houston andI'm just like.
I just want to be surroundedwith Jesus.
I want to be surrounded withhim, I want to walk with him.
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I got a position at a law firm.
I felt like I was doing welland then I got.
I Would get my hair done everyweek, so don't get it twisted.
That was the other part which Ididn't even bring up.
Growing up, my mother wouldalways ask what's your name, who
are you, who's a pretty girl?
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So I didn't have anyself-esteem issues, which I
think that's the reason why Iwas able to continue to like,
really Get past, move and notdive deep.
I think the most astray thingthat I did was cut my hair.
I cut, cut my hair.
I had long hair.
I cut my hair off at the time,but that was the that was.
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You know, some people dive intodeeper, dark things.
I didn't dive into that.
I think that was the deepestthing.
That, though, and then I wasangry.
I Was angry and I to learn,because I I got into it with
some people, which that's when Ilearned.
You know, I do have a spirit ofLike, I will like.
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If I don't stay close to Jesus,I'm gonna cut you.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I love what you're sharing because you're giving us
different facets.
Right, I, I too, am a victim ofrape, but minds took me on a
downward spiral because I didn'thave a relationship with Christ
.
Right, you started to go down,but your mother, the spirit, the
Holy Spirit, kept telling yourmom caller, caller, caller.
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Right, and you just reminded meof Tamar.
The Bible says that when Amnonraped Tamar, she put ashes on
her head and she became adesolate woman.
You are what Tamar was supposedto be when Amnon raped her was
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was.
She stayed in her situation,but you didn't.
What I want to bring to a lot ofwomen is You're not the only
one.
Someone out there has beenviolated and because of the love
of Jesus, of the love of Jesus,just always know that you have
life.
That person may have tried tosteal the life from you, but
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they don't have that power.
That's just Satan saying if Ican break you, you won't give
birth to what God put inside ofyou.
What I'm learning now what,what?
What I'm learning is Satandoesn't know what's inside of us
.
All he knows is that we're born.
If we're born, that means thatGod has a purpose for us.
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So if I can ruin that purposeIf I can ruin what's inside of
you.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I win.
Even when God created you, itwas him and you that's it.
He literally took yourbeautiful spirit and said hey,
this is the vessel that I'vecreated to grace the world with,
like you're a blessing.
And so if God sees you as ablessing and God is in all of
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you because that's literallywhat, like when you come, you're
breathtaking, like he's in allof you then that's what you're
supposed to be, be who he'scalled you to be Like.
Be life.
I tell women now, my preciousjewels, our Bible studies.
I'm like when you walk in aroom, yes, when that man times
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and looks at you and you givethat smile that you know God is
giving you, you're giving himlife.
Be life.
Don't be walking around lookinglike death, because that's what
the devil wants.
So that was my first.
That to me, was that it was amajor test because I didn't and
that goes back to a question man, why?
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But then it was almost like,but I handled this, like, okay,
god, we did it and now let'smove forward.
And then God was like you,finna, get another test, which
that was the.
So coming out of college, and Idid, I had a college sweetheart
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and then I went through with it,like it was almost like, okay,
I'm about God, like I'm aboutthe Lord, and he was being
drafted to the league and I waslike, okay, well, father, I just
this is where I met and I'mgonna walk with you Went home so
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was set up so I would get myhair done every week and God set
up.
They were like, hey, you needto meet this guy.
I was like walking with Jesusand this is what I'm doing.
He met me at church.
They gave him and this.
So this was the thing.
It wasn't to me authentic,because he was told a lot of
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things about me to be able tocome in.
So it wasn't like you're atchurch for you, you really only
came to church for me and that,like people always say, you know
what were the signs, which,like, those are things that you
think about but you don't knowat the time.
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If somebody is like, hey, thisis, you need to go, this is
somebody that you need to meet,and then what was off or what
was kind of amazing in mysituation was I didn't know that
he was actually the grandson ofmy grandfather's best friend,
because my grandfather's bestfriend had a child that no one
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in the ministry knew about, andso yeah, and so here, it is the
first time I meet him.
He's at church, our date was atchurch, you would think.
And if I brought my people onhere they would be like he
knight in shining arm, likethat's just, and I was a
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difficult one, like you just notgonna come at them on circle,
you gonna have to work, cause Istill again, the self esteem was
still high, you know, butliterally he did.
He knew things that I didn'trealize.
He knew because of what he wasbeing told and then at the same
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time he moved in such a way towhere you know it was like oh
wow, not knowing that it was allgame, if that makes sense.
So he lived in Dallas at thetime and I lived in Houston and
he would drive down from Dallasevery week to come see me
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flowers, like he just he did awhole lot.
We went through, we dated for atleast what, almost close to a
year, and then went through ayear he asked to marry, went
through a year of premaritalcounseling.
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So I mean again, I went throughthe process.
You know, I did what I feltlike okay, god, I'm doing what
you're supposed to do.
Which brings me to the point ofyou should follow God, one
because you love him, but thentwo, not because you know, just
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because, oh, this is just whatit's supposed to be.
You follow God because he saidto do it, even if you don't get
it.
Because here it is, I'm like,okay, I followed this, but then
this happened and then I did itright.
So on the day of my weddingwhich was basically all of his
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people who had RSVP some of hisfamily members had called and
said, hey, the wedding is notgoing on, my people have paid
for all this food.
They didn't show up at thewedding.
I'm sitting there like what,like I didn't even know the food
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, but I just came out and againI'm like you know, they kept a
lot, they kept a lot from me,but it was like you know, we
have RSVP, like people have RSVP, and they did not show and it
was like drama, like picturesweren't.
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People didn't want to standnext to me with pictures.
It was just like what is this,Like you know, and it was like I
call it like a Dr Jekyll, mrHyde effect.
So here it is, and I do speak ofthis.
I'm pretty public about it.
But here it is.
I'm like here it is my wedding.
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And then I'm being told sinceyou made me wait, I'm gonna make
you wait.
And it's like I literally, inmy white dress at the hotel,
walked out, called my mom andsaid hey, it's not gonna work,
this ain't gonna work this ain'tgonna work.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Wait for what, Wait for what.
I'm a little slow.
Wait for what?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, no, wait, wait, wait to consummate the marriage
.
You made me wait, I'm gonnamake you wait.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Wow, you know cause I have a question that I wanna
ask.
I think it's gonna blesssomebody, cause I know you've
been violated, cause I have asibling that been violated as
well.
Stay tuned for more as we delvemore into Elizabeth's powerful,
god-given testimony.
See you next week.
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you.
Thank you, seminar.
Man, college was not my yay moment, and when I mean
by that is like I had some major, major things that came at me,
right.
So actually.
So my freshman year I was, Iwas actually raped in college,
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which was like Didn't tell,didn't tell anyone, didn't tell
anyone, and it was crazy becauseI was a very proud version.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Welcome to the call by God podcast with Adne Godin
and myself, nixon Sylvain.
This show is about dialogues ofbiblical characters and
testimonies of Christians whosubmitted to the will of God.
Each week we bring on one guestso that they can share their
story how they were called byGod.
I hope this show inspires you.
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Enjoy hello world.
Welcome to another week ofElizabeth Stewart Williams
testimony.
I hope you enjoy this episode,so sit back and enjoy the ride.
Be blessed.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
So, my dear sister, I want you to expound on the
discipling part that yourparents did for you and your
siblings, because what Irealized for me that I came into
the body and I was baptized.
I wasn't discipled.
So the unnecessary stuff that Iendured and now Learning to
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fall in love with Jesus, to meis unnecessary.
Your parents taught you To fallin love with Jesus before you
got into a relationship withJesus.
So please share with ourlisteners the impact, the work,
the Assignment and everythinguntil you saying yes to Christ.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
They took the time.
So and actually let me go evenI'll go deeper with it, because
they were very my parents werevery strategic and purposeful in
making sure that we, we reallyunderstood the word and but it
wasn't just about the word, itwas about living it right.
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So Go back my Saturday mornings, right?
So my Saturday mornings with mybrothers and sisters included
Us going out into the community.
We were, you know, cleaning outcrack houses, we are.
We were feeding the homeless.
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We walked the streetsUnapologetically.
My dad will literally have on ahat that had church of Christ on
it and Literally would have ourhands going door to door
unafraid.
I know this day and time is soit may be a bit different, but
even if you think about backthen that area, the time is like
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he was very strategic in it,but but in a scene that.
So we're like, you know, five,six is four of us.
So my sister, my sister wasyoung, three, three, four.
I'm what I'm like.
I'm like seven, eight years oldand we're literally what you
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were called Evangelizing.
I talk about, like my olderbrother, genesis and yes, his
name is Genesis like the firstbook of the Bible, oh, and then
my other brother, like, would beright there with the Bible in
our hands telling about the loveof Jesus.
But it wasn't judgmental, itwas just respecting where people
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were in their life and the waythat my, my dad, delivered the
message was hey, I can show yousomeone who could elevate you,
you know, and so, working, hehad a program body and soul.
So he would give a food for thebody, which was preaching the
word, and then food, art, foodfor the soul preaching the word,
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and then food for the body, andwe would pack up Meals for
people in the kitchen and afterthey got food for the soul, they
would get food for the body.
And he became just reallyrespected in the community.
But we saw that we saw baptismsand we saw prostitutes who left
that lifestyle, and we saw, wesaw those who were addicted to
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drugs change your life, homelesspeople Change, like.
We saw all of that and and weworked it and so from from bad,
being able to see that.
And Then, at the same time,they taught us at home.
So, and the teaching at homewas so big because it wasn't the
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type of teaching that you know,the baby, I call it the baby
steps.
You know that you think thatkids don't understand.
My parents were very deep-seatedand purposeful in the
conversations to where you wouldask the question why.
You know, like, why did thisoccur, why did that happen?
And with those questions youhave to transition to Identify
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the why.
So he took us to the libraryand we learned about the
different things, that thedifferences between what, what
the church is and what the worldclaims to be, and so so I
understand the differencebetween Catholic Presbyterian,
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and I learned that at a veryearly age.
I understand the differencebetween method is my dad even
took us.
He, we, my brother had aquestion about priests.
He literally took us to theCatholic Church and sat down,
and that's when we found outabout traditions you know that
they are closely aligned withtradition and so he took us.
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If we have a question, he wouldliterally take us and and we
were identified and then askedthe questions ourselves.
And so it is.
It was definitely.
And then, on top of that, theytook time.
Like I talk about how we got upas a family.
We worked out as a familybefore school.
You know All those years wethought, oh, they really believe
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in my talent.
No, they really, they reallybelieve in making sure that we
understood you take care of yourbody because this is borrowed,
this is not sure it's to justhave, it's a gift, and so you're
learning all of these thingsand then you're like man, he
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loves me.
So even when we saw, like anexample, when my father did
transition, there were issues.
You know, as a PK, your fathercan be preaching one Sunday and
then Wednesday or Sunday youknow he's no longer preaching
for the church.
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That's just that's howcutthroat it can be and you're
angry and you're upset anddifferent things like that.
But you're like.
We saw, even in that transition, his response and the way he
moved with that and then he dovedeeper and to make it sure that
we understood like this is life, this is how the church can be,
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those are the people, but itnever negates how God loves you
and that understanding andthat's really the.
That's when I was like man, I'mnot, my dad is covered, I'm not
covered, and it was.
It was a falling in love withhim from that point and it
became even to this day that'sthe blessed part I never want to
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leave him because I know whatthat looks like.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I know what that I've seen it, you know, experienced
it, so yeah, I'm so appreciativethat you shared that, because
we have a lot no, honestly, wehave a lot of parents now in the
body that push sports, thatpush cheerleading, that push
acting, that push this, but theydon't push Jesus right.
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But then you want your child toget baptized, but your child is
getting baptized without anunderstanding and a relationship
with Christ, right?
So something for me when my sonmade the decision to get
baptized, I gave him the littlebit of learning that I got.
I did my best to disciple himright, and now he's living with
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his father, who's anon-Christian.
You understand what I'm saying.
So now it's like what I taughthim.
It's kind of going out thewindow because it's not that
deep rooted.
I gave him what I got.
Mine was not as deep as itneeded to be right, so his
teaching was surface.
Because he's in band now and inband he compromises Wednesday,
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which is Bible study, versussaying, oh, I'm sorry, I don't
practice on Wednesdays becausethis is the day that I go to
Bible study, so there's acompromising there.
So I'm gonna say this parents,this walk is serious.
You wanna know why yourchildren fall asleep in church?
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Because you're not teachingthem at home, you're not
evangelizing them, you're notdiscipling them, you're not
showing them Jesus right, thelove of Christ.
Instead of them going tobasketball or football on the
weekends, how about you takethem to downtown to feed the
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homeless and show them how totreat these people with respect,
because that's what Jesus didright?
Jesus loved people and in thesame process, he discipled
people.
If we want the church to grow,it's time for us to go back to
discipleship and not justbaptizing period, because you
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could baptize your child all youwant to, but if they haven't
fallen in love with Jesus, theyjust wet.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
That's real.
And I'll even say this, eventhough I stated before all my
brothers and sisters like we allplay sports, we were deep in it
, but you don't compromise orlet it go, for you don't let go.
The reason why you're doingsports is because you're
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honoring the gift that God hasgiven you.
So if you're going to play itand you're going to do it well,
that's great, do it well.
But understand the only reasonwhy you're able to do what you
do is because of the one thathas given you the gift to do it,
and that's one thing.
Like my son now, he justcommitted to Kansas and that's
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the biggest thing that I let himknow is that the only reason
you're at this stage and thatthis now is to glorify God?
So if you're, if you're layingdown God, then what?
What is it all for?
Everything that you're doing isfor the kingdom.
Everything that you're doingright, so it's, it goes back to
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like you, you, you say, my sis,the love is, I mean like in,
like you have to love him.
And that's the first amendment.
That's what people miss.
The first commandment says tolove.
Love thy God with all yourheart, your mind, your soul,
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your like everything in you.
That is the first commandment.
So I definitely would agreethat my parents really embedded
that into the time and I'm sothankful because my father could
have went and they're like alot of preachers do, like they
go out and they go teach andthey travel and they do a whole
lot, but then that's the elementthat's missed at home, and he
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purposely made sure that weunderstood and we knew.
And that's really what carriedme, because I don't, I don't
know how I would have made itthus far if that wasn't the case
.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So amen, amen.
Yeah, thank you for sharingthat, sister Liz.
And what I like about yourstory is that we actually took
time talking about when Godcalled you from darkness into
his light, because, like you, wereally methodically walk
through that process, because Iwant the unsaved, or even those
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that's in the body, to reallyunderstand the significance of
salvation.
This is not something like, ohyeah, yeah, I got baptized, I'm
done that.
This stuff is real.
It's like a relationship, right?
We all been in relationships.
You know, when you help happento find somebody you like and
you dig in them, you do whateveryou can.
You want to dress nice, youwant to get a haircut?
I don't have a haircut, honey,if you listen to this, I'm going
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to get a haircut soon.
But anyway, we do whatever wecan to look good, nice outfit.
We take our time, we dohomework on a person, you buy
them flowers, you do whatever itis, and I believe our
relationship with Jesus Christwill be larger than the
relationship with humanity orman.
You know, love God.
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You said love God with all yourheart, all your mind, likewise
even your neighbor.
So Jesus Christ, he paid theprice for all of us and because
we're not doomed to damnationbecause of what he did for us.
We should have more of agreater love for him, and that's
my approach.
When I think about the Lord'sSupper and Salvation, I'm like
God, you did that for me.
Come on, that is amazing.
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So I thank you, elizabeth, forwalking us through that, because
I want our listeners to reallyunderstand and get it, but also
I know as Christians I alwayssay this I got a real crowd out
there.
They're like yeah, she's tellingus all the good stuff and I
know so what most people don'tknow.
You have a master's in disputeresolution and I know you always
(14:27):
.
You got a woman with manytalents, you got pressure jewels
, you got a Bible woman'sministry group and you're a
media and a founder of LizYvonne dispute resolution
services, and also you're thefounder I am pro se.
So we and all of these aredealing with conflict resolution
ministry and domestic violence.
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So you're going to have to takeus back.
I mean, you're going to have totake us way back, because a
person that gave their life tothe Lord at 10 years old you
know Satan is after you.
Satan ain't happy.
You've been in the body ofChrist for a long time and I
want people to understand thatwhen you accept, like you're a
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Christian now you decide to be afollower of the disciple of
Christ, satan is upset.
Oh, satan is upset.
So I want you to take us backto holl it.
All this come about, especiallywhen I, just because I know
about the domestic violence, Iam pro se.
Take us way back.
Let me get my pop.
You got your pop.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Get your pop.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Oh no, what happened?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Okay, so, so, let me okay.
So, my high school, I'm a goal.
We don't start there.
My high school awesome, I hadasked.
You know some people like Ihate it.
I loved it.
Listen, loved it.
Hands down, great, felt like Iwas so close with the Lord, um,
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exceled at sports, excelled atacademics, god.
So I went to, I ended up goingto a university of Oklahoma.
Oh, you, um, my first, you,almost there's a time and space
that you, you come to, uh, afteryou have been in Christ for a
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while.
And I realized so there'slevels to this thing.
There's levels and being inChrist and man, college was not
my yay moment, and when I meanby that is like I had some major
, um, major things that came atme, right, so, actually.
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So my freshman year, I was, Iwas actually right in college,
which was right, didn't tellanyone, didn't tell anyone, and
it was crazy because I was avery proud virgin, very proud,
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no joke, and so it was almostlike everything was cause,
that's all I, that's to me, thatwas the glory to be that right
Strip stripped away and I'm likewhat am I now?
Now the piece, even thoughthere was such a blessing in
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understanding and being soconnected with Christ.
The balance part that I believethat was missed and I wouldn't
even say it was so much missed.
I would actually say that I didnot understand was that, even
though many Christians getsucked into, you gotta do this,
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this, this, this and this.
And if you don't do this, this,this, this and this, like you
just not gonna make it rightBecause I had such I understood
God loved me, so I still thereare those that do this, this,
this.
If you don't stay, if you'renot in this box and it doesn't
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look this way, then oh no, likewhat are you gonna do?
Right?
And I?
So my freshman year, and youcan see where my grades went
down.
Like cause I was, I was numberwhat 20?
Like we had a thousand in myclass, I was top 10%, 20.
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When I got to college, I was inthe top 10, like just ridiculous
.
That first semester and thatsecond semester wouldn't happen.
I did not get out of bed unlessmy mother.
My mother knew something waswrong.
She didn't know what.
She called me every day.
Mama was into him.
She called me every day and Iwas like like I would not get up
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unless she called me and shecontinued to do that until I
slowly which goes back to what Iwas saying and understanding I
had to come to the realizationhe still loves me, like, oh, he
still loves me.
This happened and it tried todestroy me, but he still loves
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me, right, and it took.
It took a lot for me to get tothat point and no one knew.
No one knew what are theheaviness.
And by nature I'm a fighter.
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I come from the lineage of David.
Me and Peter ride together Likehe got one ear, I got the other
, me and Paul.
I would have been right there.
Get it, paul, you know, andthat's those.
But this is the thing that Ilearned about myself.
There's a core in you, that andit's a core carnality in you
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that you have.
That the devil wants to comeout and God is saying no,
replace it with me.
And you have to learn that coreabout you.
You have to learn what worksand what doesn't with God.
That's the key, like what workswith God, what doesn't work
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with God, what you have to.
I go to church.
People say, oh, man, you alwaysgo to church?
Yes, because if I don't, youdon't wanna see what can come
out.
Like there's a core there.
So I work, I have to learn.
I didn't miss church Like Ifound.
I had to find a church.
I was like this church isn'tworking.
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This we drove and at the timemy brother was with my older
brother.
He attended OU at the same timewith me and we would miss it,
wouldn't miss it.
It was almost like I need Godbecause I gotta figure this out
and I gotta work because I stillhave to see what God sees in me
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, even though this hastranspired.
So that was actually my firstexperience dealing with dealing
with what I would say what thedevil tried to destroy in me,
like he tried to destroy that.
So that was the first.
So I dealt with sexual assaultand I couldn't coming out of
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sexual assault during thattimeframe.
You were ostracized Like youdid.
Especially I was in sports, soI was around athletes.
You don't do that and if you dodo it, I mean they gonna hang
you out.
So at that time I'm lookinglike I gotta keep this and I
kept it.
I kept it until what?
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A week after I graduated I gotmy bachelor's and I got made at
home, but I kept it, and my mom,that's the only reason why I
got up every day.
She called me every day.
They, she didn't call me a lady, but that was far and in
between.
But that's how I made it.
And then that's how I begin tolearn man, god, okay, you still
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love me, I Can still go, I cankeep going, because I felt like
a failure, which that's the partof, that's the part that the
devil wants, especially forwomen.
The devil wants because we arethe only thing Created from life
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.
If you read Genesis, chapter 2,everything else man, birds, the
files of the air, the, the grass, that everything else was made
from the ground.
The question is, why didn't hemake woman from the ground?
Because she wasn't supposed tobe made from the ground.
She was supposed to be madefrom life because she is the
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solution.
She is the solution forloneliness.
That's the help me part.
She gives life, she's supposedto give life.
When she comes into a room andwhat the devil tries to do,
especially with anything dealingwith Violence, anything dealing
with assault, anything likethat, is the devil is trying to
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Take out the life.
He wants us to walk around dead.
But that was the beautiful thingabout Christ.
If I'm in Christ and he, christis covering me, I have life
Right and I've come out of theworld and I'm in him, I am, I am
.
He is the truth, I am life andthis is what I'm supposed I'm
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supposed to be.
I cannot be, and that's thedangerous part is, when you get
yoked with someone which will gointo that go.
You get yoked with someone whois dead, like your life, and
you're yulking with someone'sdad.
But that was so.
My college that was.
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That was like a, that was abeast and at the same at the
same time.
So I'm coming out of college.
They are graduated the day Ileft and I and I Get to.
I get back home to Houston andI'm just like.
I just want to be surroundedwith Jesus.
I want to be surrounded withhim, I want to walk with him.
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I got a position at a law firm.
I felt like I was doing welland then I got.
I Would get my hair done everyweek, so don't get it twisted.
That was the other part which Ididn't even bring up.
Growing up, my mother wouldalways ask what's your name, who
are you, who's a pretty girl?
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So I didn't have anyself-esteem issues, which I
think that's the reason why Iwas able to continue to like,
really Get past, move and notdive deep.
I think the most astray thingthat I did was cut my hair.
I cut, cut my hair.
I had long hair.
I cut my hair off at the time,but that was the that was.
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You know, some people dive intodeeper, dark things.
I didn't dive into that.
I think that was the deepestthing.
That, though, and then I wasangry.
I Was angry and I to learn,because I I got into it with
some people, which that's when Ilearned.
You know, I do have a spirit ofLike, I will like.
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If I don't stay close to Jesus,I'm gonna cut you.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I love what you're sharing because you're giving us
different facets.
Right, I, I too, am a victim ofrape, but minds took me on a
downward spiral because I didn'thave a relationship with Christ
.
Right, you started to go down,but your mother, the spirit, the
Holy Spirit, kept telling yourmom caller, caller, caller.
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Right, and you just reminded meof Tamar.
The Bible says that when Amnonraped Tamar, she put ashes on
her head and she became adesolate woman.
You are what Tamar was supposedto be when Amnon raped her was
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was.
She stayed in her situation,but you didn't.
What I want to bring to a lot ofwomen is You're not the only
one.
Someone out there has beenviolated and because of the love
of Jesus, of the love of Jesus,just always know that you have
life.
That person may have tried tosteal the life from you, but
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they don't have that power.
That's just Satan saying if Ican break you, you won't give
birth to what God put inside ofyou.
What I'm learning now what,what?
What I'm learning is Satandoesn't know what's inside of us
.
All he knows is that we're born.
If we're born, that means thatGod has a purpose for us.
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So if I can ruin that purposeIf I can ruin what's inside of
you.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I win.
Even when God created you, itwas him and you that's it.
He literally took yourbeautiful spirit and said hey,
this is the vessel that I'vecreated to grace the world with,
like you're a blessing.
And so if God sees you as ablessing and God is in all of
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you because that's literallywhat, like when you come, you're
breathtaking, like he's in allof you then that's what you're
supposed to be, be who he'scalled you to be Like.
Be life.
I tell women now, my preciousjewels, our Bible studies.
I'm like when you walk in aroom, yes, when that man times
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and looks at you and you givethat smile that you know God is
giving you, you're giving himlife.
Be life.
Don't be walking around lookinglike death, because that's what
the devil wants.
So that was my first.
That to me, was that it was amajor test because I didn't and
that goes back to a question man, why?
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But then it was almost like,but I handled this, like, okay,
god, we did it and now let'smove forward.
And then God was like you,finna, get another test, which
that was the.
So coming out of college, and Idid, I had a college sweetheart
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and then I went through with it,like it was almost like, okay,
I'm about God, like I'm aboutthe Lord, and he was being
drafted to the league and I waslike, okay, well, father, I just
this is where I met and I'mgonna walk with you Went home so
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was set up so I would get myhair done every week and God set
up.
They were like, hey, you needto meet this guy.
I was like walking with Jesusand this is what I'm doing.
He met me at church.
They gave him and this.
So this was the thing.
It wasn't to me authentic,because he was told a lot of
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things about me to be able tocome in.
So it wasn't like you're atchurch for you, you really only
came to church for me and that,like people always say, you know
what were the signs, which,like, those are things that you
think about but you don't knowat the time.
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If somebody is like, hey, thisis, you need to go, this is
somebody that you need to meet,and then what was off or what
was kind of amazing in mysituation was I didn't know that
he was actually the grandson ofmy grandfather's best friend,
because my grandfather's bestfriend had a child that no one
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in the ministry knew about, andso yeah, and so here, it is the
first time I meet him.
He's at church, our date was atchurch, you would think.
And if I brought my people onhere they would be like he
knight in shining arm, likethat's just, and I was a
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difficult one, like you just notgonna come at them on circle,
you gonna have to work, cause Istill again, the self esteem was
still high, you know, butliterally he did.
He knew things that I didn'trealize.
He knew because of what he wasbeing told and then at the same
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time he moved in such a way towhere you know it was like oh
wow, not knowing that it was allgame, if that makes sense.
So he lived in Dallas at thetime and I lived in Houston and
he would drive down from Dallasevery week to come see me
(31:28):
flowers, like he just he did awhole lot.
We went through, we dated for atleast what, almost close to a
year, and then went through ayear he asked to marry, went
through a year of premaritalcounseling.
(31:49):
So I mean again, I went throughthe process.
You know, I did what I feltlike okay, god, I'm doing what
you're supposed to do.
Which brings me to the point ofyou should follow God, one
because you love him, but thentwo, not because you know, just
(32:16):
because, oh, this is just whatit's supposed to be.
You follow God because he saidto do it, even if you don't get
it.
Because here it is, I'm like,okay, I followed this, but then
this happened and then I did itright.
So on the day of my weddingwhich was basically all of his
(32:40):
people who had RSVP some of hisfamily members had called and
said, hey, the wedding is notgoing on, my people have paid
for all this food.
They didn't show up at thewedding.
I'm sitting there like what,like I didn't even know the food
(33:04):
, but I just came out and againI'm like you know, they kept a
lot, they kept a lot from me,but it was like you know, we
have RSVP, like people have RSVP, and they did not show and it
was like drama, like picturesweren't.
(33:28):
People didn't want to standnext to me with pictures.
It was just like what is this,Like you know, and it was like I
call it like a Dr Jekyll, mrHyde effect.
So here it is, and I do speak ofthis.
I'm pretty public about it.
But here it is.
I'm like here it is my wedding.
(33:48):
And then I'm being told sinceyou made me wait, I'm gonna make
you wait.
And it's like I literally, inmy white dress at the hotel,
walked out, called my mom andsaid hey, it's not gonna work,
this ain't gonna work this ain'tgonna work.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Wait for what, Wait for what.
I'm a little slow.
Wait for what?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, no, wait, wait, wait to consummate the marriage
.
You made me wait, I'm gonnamake you wait.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Wow, you know cause I have a question that I wanna
ask.
I think it's gonna blesssomebody, cause I know you've
been violated, cause I have asibling that been violated as
well.
Stay tuned for more as we delvemore into Elizabeth's powerful,
god-given testimony.
See you next week.
That's it for now, but beforewe go, please continue to listen
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you.
Thank you, seminar.
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