Onlyfans Management Companies & Cam Girl Success Ft. Platinum Puzzy & Lilly LaClare

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What up, cock Boy Nation? It's your best friend, pervert
Pete. Oh, shit, it's not.
Yeah. I'm Gary Gabagool, host of Cam
Girl Diaries with my Co host Carrie Platinum.
Pussy Anthony welcome. Welcome.
Now, for those of you that are watching this on the Pervert

(00:26):
Pete channel, yes, I am not Pervert Pete.
You might know me as Perver Pete's twin brother.
Now, Perver Pete wanted to set me up for failure.
He was like, he was like, oh, hey, yeah, I'm going to put you
on my channel, fuck face and watch you fail.
I was like, all right, do it. Let's fucking do this.
I don't give a shit. So I'm sorry.
Perver Pete, you know, he's he'sactually watching this, you

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know, hoping that we fail. So, you know, fuck you.
Perver, Pete. Yeah, fuck you, pervert Pete.
Yeah, fuck you. Maybe he'll make an appearance.
He'll fuck it. He'll he'll get mad because, you
know, I, I got his setup and shit.
So, you know, he might make an appearance just to you know.
Try to try to sabotage you. Yeah, yeah, because that's all

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he wants to do. He wants to sabotage me.
That's why he put me on his channel and shit.
So if you're watching on the Pervert Pete channel, obviously
I can't see the chat. So if you want to come over to
Cam Girl Diaries on YouTube at Cam Girl Diaries or the
camgirldiaries.com, hit that shit up, you know, then I can
see your chats and shit. So, but yeah, Perver Pete, he's

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not going to make an appearance.If he does, you know, he's going
to bust in this room, probably kick my ass.
I don't know that that might be a whole other thing.
You know, me versus Perver Pete fighting and shit, I don't know.
That's a whole other thing. Dan the man, what's up?
And then Phil Pillham. Philham.
Aw, Sookie, Sookie. That's per repeats.

(01:53):
Shit, he, you know, he says likehe's like, oh, Sookie, Sookie.
I don't even know what that fucking means, but you know,
whatever. Yeah, yeah.
Who knows? So let's talk.
Let's talk, Gary. Let's talk about something,
shall we? Yeah, absolutely.
Like only fans. Oh yeah.

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Yeah, I love only fans, I mean. I have.
We got to be careful. We got to be careful.
Oh, why you you can't talk aboutthat shit?
Sure I can. I can talk about it.
Oh shit, that, that's a whole other thing.
I, I fucking, it's like, I don'tknow where you're at.
Where I'm at, it's like fucking 80° and shit.

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I didn't put my fucking air conditioner in yet, so I got my
window open. If there's any background noise,
tell me 'cause you know I'm not.A professional, hey, it is what
it is. You can't life is happening and
you can't stop the world from from spinning.
We're on live. It's just part of what happened.
So yeah, let's talk about OF let's talk about OF management

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companies. Oh, don't get me started.
I fucking like. Well, it depends.
It depends because there's there's different.
I don't know what you would say.Levels of only fans, management
companies, some of them. I mean, yeah, I would definitely
say that there are experienced creators who are part of

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management companies and they I think are the more legitimate
ones. I do think that there are a lot
of them out there where people are like, hey, let's let's get
into this OF money. And, you know, they get a
percentage of what the creators that they manage make.
And what I've found is that theyhire truth labor from other

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places in the world that create language barriers so that when
they're talking with the fans, it's very evident that they're
not speaking to the model. There are other things like the
sales pitches and the PP VS and things like that.
And like even the timeline feed,there's a lot of things that
just show that there's not a whole lot of attention to

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detail. And so speaking from a person
who is I also offer independent OF management.
I don't, I'm not an agency. I don't have, you know, other
people that are helping me manage.
I am specializing in the communication with your fans

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because I have the experience asa dominant, I have an experience
as the, you know, sexting expertand the, you know, dirty talk in
the the things of that nature. Also, I understand the sales
aspect of it because I feel liketoo many people give too much

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away and so there's really no urge to purchase something
because the trailer gives up so much.
Or the thumbnails are pretty, they give it all away or they
have descriptions that tell everything that happens in the
video. So it doesn't really allude to a
mystery, it just gives too much away.

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So there's some practice. I always see, yeah, that that
shit's all over the Internet. You see that shit just they're
fucking Beavers. Just like it's like right there,
you know? It's like I know.
People. Will argue with me.
People argue with me all the time.
They're like, Oh, but you know, I'm like, just because you can

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post it on Twitter or X doesn't mean that you should.
I, I choose not to. I feel like if you want to see
the Hoo ha and the hootie Hoo and all the things you got to,
you got to subscribe. You got to come behind that pay
wall for a multitude of reasons.One, there is no age
verification on Twitter so you don't know who is looking at

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your content. And understand that in some
States and some countries, you being the person who posted that
content could be held liable legally for minors being exposed
to your content. So put that shit behind a pay
wall. Aside from that, you should want
to get paid for your content. Makes sense now before we

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continue now when we're talking about like only fans, agencies
or whatever you want to call it.Like with you, you have over 20
years experience in the fucking game.
Yes, yes. And I, I don't, I don't know
everything. I'm not an expert per SE, but I
can say that I understand fan and model or creator

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communication because I deal with it on a daily basis not
only for myself but for my clients.
So. Well, with that too, because we
see, well, I see a lot of, you know, Cam girls.
Well, yeah, just just talking about the Cam girls that are
trying to offer their expertise,you know, like with courses and

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all that shit. Like they, they have 0
experience. Very little, yeah, yeah, very
little experience. And they're offering fucking,
you know, they're offering all these fucking, you know, like,
oh, I'll teach you how to be an only fans girl.
Got no experience, no fucking, no following, no nothing.

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You know what I mean? Well, there, there's, there's
several different levels to thatas well.
And one of the things that people ask me are what are my
stats? My stats are not important
because I always focus on my clients more than I focus on
myself. If you look at my social media,
I really, I, I post, but I don'treally strategize like I put the

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focus on and the same thing goesfor my OF and any of my other
stuff like I'm not really concerned about posting there.
I stay on those platforms so that I can stay up to date with
the terms of service. I can stay up to date with the
features. I can stay up to date with just
understanding how things are areoperating because how am I going

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to do it for you or how am I going to teach you how to do it?
Because one of the things that I've added on to my business is
doing audits. So maybe you don't want to trust
me to do your stuff or you don'twant to trust an agency to do
your stuff. I go in and do an audit and I'll
find things that you can fine tune so that you can maximize
your earnings. But essentially, I feel like

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there's a lot of people that make some good money, they might
have a Goodyear, and then all ofa sudden they feel compelled to
share what they think that they did right with everyone out
there. And there's nothing wrong with
monetizing your knowledge. I 100% think that it's great
that you share that. And I honestly think that you

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should get paid. However, I feel like until
you've hit rock bottom and had to work your way back up there,
there's a lot of things that aremissing.
You can't really share your secret to success because
honestly, most people don't knowwhat made them successful.
They can only speculate. So.

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I think that once you hit rock bottom and had to work your way
back up, you learn a lot of the things that you did wrong, a lot
of the mistakes that you made, alot of the things that you did
right. And you just perfect your craft.
And through time and experience,you know, you're able to provide

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a more realistic vision and a more realistic, realistic
expectation for people who are learning from you.
And that's for me, what I think is my best selling point is
like, I'm transparent. I'm honest.
I'm not going to tell you that you're going to make $10,000 a
month and you want to post once a week.
Like anybody who's making $10,000 a month most likely is

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not posting just once a week. They're posting multiple times a
day. So Pillem says they'll never put
their hootie who on Elan's ex. Which you shouldn't.
I mean, how many? Like, I don't know about you,

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but you know, if I scroll through Twitter, I guess it
depends on who you're following.But yeah, I'll see, you know,
bitches fucking their whole Beavers out.
Like it's like like. You could see it all.
Let me tell you something, when I get horny, I just go to
Twitter. Like I have no need to go
anywhere else. I don't even have to go to pH

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anymore or XV or any of the other like tube sites or
whatever. Like all I got to do is log in,
go to my Twitter and I follow plenty of people that put full
on one minute, 1 1/2 minute 2 minute scenes and that's all I
need. And it loops so I don't even
have to like rewind and rewatch it.
Just right, yeah. All I do is just keep watching

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and flip the bean and be like yeah.
Flip that bean. Woo.
Yeah. OK, OK, OK.
It's fun game. Fun game.
Let's play a game and I want theaudience to join us.
So you guys comment in the comments as well.
What are some phrases used for masturbating?

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Obviously for me, flick the bean.
Oh shit, oh man, you just stumped me.
You know, like fucking whacking off.
Beat the meat. Beat the meat shit I fucking you
just stumped me and that. Hold on, let me look at my

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phone. Let me see if we can find some.
Yeah, beat that beat. Hey, Siri.
Oh. Look up What are different
phrases for describing masturbation?
Oh. Good.
Yeah, she says she doesn't have an answer for that.
Siri, you fucking vanilla bitch.Siri fucking sucks.

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Siri does suck. I'll tell you what though,
Google Gemini has gotten a lot better, like in the past year
because like, you know, Oh yeah,I use, I've been using Gemini
for probably about the past year, year and a half for
different things. And it, you know, immediately it
would be like, oh, that's, that's I cannot talk about that,
blah, blah, blah, blah. What are some phrases used to

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describe Oh I'm not going to be able to do it on here.
Hold on, let me go to a different one.
I forgot ChatGPT isn't about to have that shit either and I
don't want to get my account blocked.
I'm already in time out, but there is there is something I'm
always asking it to talk about sex stuff and it yeah.

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Oh yeah, for girls, yeah 'cause I'm thinking about guys, yeah,
like fucking for girls, like, you know, like.
What are some phrases used to describe masturbation?
Like flick the bean? So there is a thing called GPTS
dot AI and it is a sex worker friendly.

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ChatGPT. Flick the bean, rub one out.
Oh, that somebody else just said.
Film got that? Yeah.
Play with myself, finger myself,touch myself.
Come on. Those are dumb.
Stroke my clit, Make myself come.
Give myself a hand. OK, I've heard of that one.
The the five finger. Five finger discount.
Discount. Oh, is that something different?

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Pop stealing? That's when you steal shit.
Diddle myself. Oh yeah, I like diddling
bitches. That's nice.
I mean, in a nice way, of course.
You know, not not like Bill Cosby style.
That's wrong. She never diddle, you know,
don't diddle girls in fucking, you know, Bill Cosby style.

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That's never good. So I.
Heard I would love to. Oh, go ahead, Bill Cosby.
Yeah, 'cause I want to take, like, I know Bill Cosby, he's a
jerk off. He's fucking drugging girls,
like giving them GHB. I want to take GHB.
I've never had GHB before, but Ihear it's fucking great.

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I mean, you know, I mean, if you're on the receiving end and
not knowing, it's not great. But I don't know, it sounds
fucking good man. I mean, if you're taking it
consensually and voluntarily, soif it's being used in that
responsible way, then yeah. But it's very yeah, when you're

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when you're giving it to someonewithout them, without their
knowledge or consent. Yeah, that's not nice.
Yeah. Don't do that.
Bad moral values. You ever do GHB?
Me. Yeah.
I don't do anything like the only thing I've ever done in my
whole life and I know I sound like such a square when I say

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this is fucking weed man. But that could be so good.
Oh yeah, I just can't do edibles'cause I get either super duper
paranoid or I hallucinate or I get stuck.
So I guess it really just depends on the strand.
But I get stuck and I'm just like huh what?

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Right, right. Yeah.
It's hard to have a conversationwith me.
In fact, I have to let my partner know, like I'm taking an
edible. Yeah, she'll call me and be
like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
And I'll just be like, huh? What?
What you said was you talking tome like, yeah, I'm talking like,
what the hell? Like, yeah, I got to be like,
yeah, I took an edible. So he'll be aware that like, I'm

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when I'm acting strange, why I'macting strange?
Because he's ready to call 911 and get an ambulance over here.
Yeah, yeah, fuck it. Yeah, we just fucking crazy.
Like when I was younger, like I couldn't fucking like I I'd
smoke with my friends and shit. I get all paranoid and fucking
just like out of my mind and shit.

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So I didn't fucking smoke for like, you know, I don't know how
many years, like 20 years and shit.
Then one day, you know, 'cause my wife, she, you know, she's a
big fucking pothead. So I, you know, for the longest
I fucking, I was like, Nah, man,Nah, that shit ain't for me.
And then, you know, peer pressure.
She was like, God, just fucking do it your pussy.

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I was like, OK, so I fucking didit.
And it was like Ari, Ari, it's alittle, it's all right, it's all
right. And then I, I kept doing it and
shit and it fucking like opened my mind up like immensely
fucking nut. I, I can't even fucking believe
what it did to me. But then I started doing edibles
and shit and I was fucking tasting colors and like, you

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know, like it was what I, yeah, I tasted colors like.
What do colors? Taste like Oh my God I need.
To know Pelham says that they are writing the Melatonin Dragon
right now. Melatonin is the worst you ever
fucking I I used to, you know, because I cannot sleep so I take

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well, I'm bipolar so I got some different pills and shit that
they prescribe me and you know, I fucking take a pill.
I'm fucking passed out. I used to do melatonin and shit
and like I'd have the fucking worst fucking dreams and shit.
I want to die. Hey, Cam Roll, how are you?

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So don't nobody should do melatonin.
It's the fucking worst. I mean in my opinion, because I
mean everyone, I. Talk.
I mean, it works. It works different on different
people. I'd have the worst fucking
dreams. Like I want to fucking die.
Like I wake up and I want to die.
Like it was the fucking some of the worst dreams ever.
That's not good, but let's go back to only fans.

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Oh come on, let's keep with thisDebbie Downer shit.
Yeah. No, we're not.
We're not hit. We're on Friday.
Night. Oh yeah, Friday night, the
freaks come out. The freaks.
Come out at night. So let's talk about people that
are sharing their knowledge and then of course, back to the
agency conversation, because I think it's important to

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understand that there are different types of agencies and
some agencies are very successful.
They and also understand that sometimes the success of the
agency depends on the efforts ofthe model.
So there's a misconception that you're just going to hand your
accounts over to an agency and they're going to make you
instantly successful. And that's not true.

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You still have to be able to create content, be available for
live shows and video chats and sexting and customs and all of
the things that make your page make money.
But selling education, I think is, you know, not a bad thing.
I think that there are some people that it's unfortunate

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that they make so much money. And I've taken some of those
courses and been like, this is garbage.
Like you could have got this from ChatGPT.
But although I don't insist on learning from ChatGPT, I think
ChatGPT is a great place for a starting point.
But anything that I do, I expand.
Like I give you far more information then you know,

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beyond ChatGPT from experience, like breaking down and auditing
your page. Or if you're, if you have a Cam
page like on sites like Chaturbate, like I'll go and
I'll do a profile review and just kind of tell you some
things that you can do that'll help you monetize the traffic.
And also this, it's important asa Cam star or a performer to

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understand that there, I think we talked about this in my
interview. There's a difference between
camming for tokens and camming for traffic or exposure.
And even though you can do both at the same time, I think it's
important that as a performer. You know, your page should be a
place to help funnel traffic to other places, for instance OF if

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you can. But yeah, selling of the
information. There's a lot of people out
there. I've I've bought stuff that I've
just been like refund. See this is firing me up because
I fucking that pisses me off. It's tough to say because like

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for Someone Like You that has 20, like if you're going to buy
some fucking, if you're going tobuy something, especially
something like this, like information, I want to buy
information from someone that has a lot of experience, a lot
of experience in different fucking realms, like you, for
instance, right. But I see a lot of a lot of Cam

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girls that like, you know, they've been in the game for
eight months, 18 months even, and are just selling their shit.
And then when you go to like, you know, like, see, like what
are they doing? Like you go to their different
shit and they really don't have a following.
They don't have they don't have shit, but they're telling you

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what to do. You know what I mean?
That shit pisses me off. It doesn't piss me off, I mean.
Yeah, it pisses me off. I I see that.
I see how. Tired.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
It's all. Good.
It's all good. Passionate.
I think for me it's like, first of all, I know when I'm buying
something that I am taking the chance that there is a
likeliness that I might not get anything out of it and get by

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getting anything out of it. I mean, there might be no new
information for me to learn because it might be all basic
things that I already know. So that's first and foremost.
Secondly, you know, I get that monetizing your courses or your
whatever it is that you're doing, you're doing this to help
make money and I get that. But the problem that that I see,

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which is why I don't promote often that I do these things is
because I'm not looking to monetize my peers and my
relationship with my peers. I usually help people for, you
know, I mean, if I'm going to bedoing your only fan stuff, then
yeah, I'm going to make money because this is time out of my

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day. If it comes to just giving you
some general advice, I'm not going to charge you for that.
That's something I'm going to offer just because I want to see
everyone succeed. If it's something where it's
more like a consultation and I'mreally going to like review your
digital footprint. If I'm going to audit your stuff
and I'm going to give you a listof the things that you can do

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that will help you make more money.
It's something that I do charge for because it is very time
consuming and my information, a lot of the things that I know
are not common knowledge. They're things that I've learned
through time, experience, and you know, just failing and
succeeding on my own. But essentially the part that I

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think is most problematic is when people one, steal other
people's information. Because I've had that done.
I've had someone RIP off an entire course and sell it, and
then I've had people RIP off things like names and ideas and
graphics and all that kind of stuff.
So that's for me is the part that's most problematic.

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And the part that upsets me the most is like, if you're going to
be selling your information, letit be your information.
Let you have been the person to experience it and you're
sharing, you know, your knowledge, not taking from other
people the the hard work that they've done and the time that
they've invested to make money like that for me is a is a no

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go. So yeah, where would you say
there is good information? Where would you find good
information? Yeah, I would say Cam Girl
Diaries podcast. Now you can go to our Patreon
and. You know, good look at, look at

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you following along. Good for you.
So you go, you know, 'cause like, again, I mean, technically
you could say that I'm stealing information, but all right, see,
now I'm fucking like now I'm attacking myself, but I'm just
saying, well, yeah, you're not stealing information.
I'm saying I'm interviewing you guys.

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You're. Sharing.
Information. That is being volunteered
through your podcast, so you're not stealing.
Anything. No, I'm not stealing anything.
No, I know, but I'm just saying like, yeah, like if you want to
find fucking, you know, from different perspectives.
Like that's what separates Cam Girl Diaries from, you know, I
guess from girls that are sharing, you know, doing their

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courses and all that stuff. Like at Cam Girl Diaries, you
can get a lot of different perspectives.
Right, and we have some plans for the Patreon coming up where
we're going to work on building a community and offering, you
know, things like tips of the week and shit like that.
So it's definitely a great placethat I would recommend people go

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to. And we've teamed up Platinum.
Platinum is teaming up with CampGirl Diaries and we're going to
definitely work hard to do some contest.
I've got some sponsors on board and yeah, we've got a lot of
good things coming for the future, so I'm really excited.
More lives, more interviews, allkinds of good stuff.

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So. Absolutely, and also you can
join the YouTube channel as a member.
Same difference as Patreon. I don't know, 'cause I've been
talking to other live YouTube live streamers, so a lot of
people are starting to gravitatetowards YouTube memberships for
some reason. Not sure why.

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I think it's because, you know, like people that just watch on
YouTube, like they just want to stay on YouTube, not go over
Patreon. So what kind of benefits does
YouTube membership offer? Same as Patreon basically is
saying, yeah, same as Patreon. They're adding, you know,
they're, they're trying YouTube memberships is trying to

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replicate Patreon as much as possible.
So yeah, it's, it's basically the same thing, except on
Patreon you could still do a lotmore stuff like you can, you
know, offer digital, you know, digital content, you know, like
YouTube memberships is still a lot more focused on videos, of

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course. But Patreon you can, you know,
there's a lot more you can do. I personally, I prefer Patreon,
but I'm hearing a lot of people,you know, they like to just stay
on YouTube and everything and you know.
So let me ask. You a question.
So can you do members only liveson YouTube members?

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Yes, yeah, yeah, a lot of, yeah,a lot of a lot of the YouTube
streamers, they'll stream on both for YouTube members and
Patreon at the same time. Not sure how they do it because
like, if you have a YouTube, this is, you know, insider

(27:23):
technical shit. But if you're streaming on
YouTube just for your YouTube members, you also have to have a
separate stream for Patreon. But basically they do the same
shit you know you can do. Stream on.
Both. Yeah, yeah, I think they use OBS
or just use the different, you know, a different account.

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Kind of how pervert Pete did it tonight.
He fucking stole the fucking link and put it on his channel
just to humiliate me. Not much of A humiliation
pervert Pete like. Yeah, fuck him, man.
Fuck that motherfucker. But anyways, yeah, knowing that
he's watching. Oh yeah, he's fucking

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downstairs, probably fucking whacking off to you.
He's like, oh fuck yeah. I'm sure he is.
Maybe he wants me to rate his Wiener.
No, he loved that with me. Yeah, he probably would.
Because you know. I saw that you got your Wiener
rated. Yeah, I, I, I was just trying to

(28:30):
be like my twin brother. I was, you know, all pathetic
and shit. 7 out of 10, seven outof 10.
I know I was surprised. I was impressed.
Shout out to Amber Rivers. Yes, Amber Rivers.
Seven yeah, 7 outs. Shout out to.
Anita Valentina who would be with us but she's live on cams

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right now. Oh, what's she on?
Sin Party. I saw, I think yeah, I saw a
fucking post on Twitter about yeah, she was on Sin Party and
shit. Doing a special May the Fourth
Be With You Princess Leia show on Sunday.

(29:13):
Really. Yes, you know, it's my favorite
cosplay. I I'm such a huge Star Wars fan.
So wait, so this Sunday, what May 4th?
What time? At 4:00 PM. 4:00 PM Eastern on
sinparty.com. Yep, you can go to
queenofbbw.com back slash sin party.

(29:36):
I don't know. Wait a minute, can I?
Oh, no, I don't have the controls like on normally.
It'll let me go in there and create.
That's up to you over there, Gary, Oh.
Shit, I got to do technical shit.
What am I supposed to do? It's OK, It's OK.
Just go to queenofbbw.com back slash SIM party and you can join

(29:56):
me 4:00 on Sunday. May the fourth be with you.
Oh. So what are you going to do?
It's a surprise. I kind of like surprises, but
wait. All right, So may the fourth be
with you. So it's like Star Wars, right?

(30:16):
I don't know Star Wars. Like, I I know there's there's
Darth Vader, there's Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia.
She got the fucking the the cinnamon buns in her hair.
Yes. Yeah.
So you going to do that? Chewbacca.
Are you going to do Chewbacca? Oh.

(30:36):
Is Chewbacca going to bang R2D? Oh.
No, no. How does it work?
I don't know. I don't know.
Time out, Time out. No.
What's the R2? Wait, which is the the golden?
The gold. One that's C3PO.
Yeah, C3PO going to bang Princess.

(30:57):
Leia, nobody's banging. Stop it.
Oh. Look at you turning it into some
sort of. I'm curious.
I want to know what happened. Oh, you can't do that.
You. Just have to join it and find
out. Is it like Spaceballs?
No, it's not like Spaceballs. All right, well, now I'm

(31:19):
curious. Now I have to tune in.
God damn. It now you have to see what.
Happens. Yeah.
I want to see what happens. You have created for someone who
didn't know that much about StarWars, you knew something about
Star Wars. Well, yeah, I know the basics,
but I know more about Spaceballsthan Star Wars.
What? Yeah, I didn't grow up on Star
Wars or anything, and I don't know, space.

(31:42):
Space wasn't interesting to me as a kid.
Now I'm interested in space because that shit is fucking
crazy. But that's all other you.
Weren't interested in space as akid.
No, I was kind of retarded. Well, I, I, I like, you know, I
like Transformers math. Oh.
Yeah, I'm a huge fan of Transformers.
Hell yeah, yeah. Fucking when Optimus Prime died,

(32:05):
I cried like a bitch. It's like, Oh my God, this is
sad, but that's a whole. Other thing, yeah, I could see I
love Transformers and Thundercats.
Thunder, Thunder, Thundercats. Oh hell yeah.
Fuck yeah, man. Yeah, fucking.

(32:26):
Lionel and Snarf Snarf, Snarf. Pantra Pantra was the girl.
Yeah, yeah, she was kind of hot.I mean, you know, I wasn't like
jerking off to her or anything, but you know, if I was a
Thundercat, I'd fuck her. She was a very alpha female, so

(32:47):
it was. She was.
She had a really deep voice too.Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So. What are some cartoons that you
guys saw as you were growing up that you know still resonate
with you? For me, it was Transformers.
It was. What else?

(33:09):
Smurfs. Oh yes.
I'd like to Smurf. Yeah, I'd like to Smurf you.
I love how they use Smurf as a fucking like verb or whatever.
You know that's Smurf and her, you know, Smurf that holy shit,
tell me Smurf that did not get fucking gang bang.
I guarantee she got fucking. Gang.

(33:32):
Right. I don't know, she was kind of
bougie. Yeah, like Grandpa Smurf.
What was was that his name? Fucking Papa Smurf?
What am I retarded? And Gargoyle or Gargamel.
Gargamel was a fuck. Oh my God, I hated him.

(33:56):
Speaking of gangbangs here, right, Hold up.
I'm sorry, that's a bad transition.
But Speaking of gangbangs, let'ssee, we got a Lily Leclair.
Hello. Hey Lily, how are you?
I'm good. How are you?
Fabulous. Fabulous.
Listening to Gary try to talk about *.

(34:16):
Wars, he tried. Fuck.
Oh great. Oh, I see how it is now listen,
we were just talking about cartoons.
What cartoons did you watch whenyou were a kid?
When when I was a kid I watched like do you guys remember
sticking around where they told like weird stories?
No, Oh wait, she's wait a. Minute.

(34:38):
Wait a minute, wait a minute before we even get into the what
you watched What? What generation are you?
So I'm a. Millennial.
Oh, OK, OK, OK. Yeah, yeah.
So sticking around. Yeah, that's what that was my
favorite as a as a kid. But like, I'm in Canada, so I
some shows maybe I was watching that you guys weren't, I don't

(35:00):
know. Yeah, definitely, definitely.
What else? I'm curious now.
What else did Canadians watch? There was this really
interesting, like it was like educational show about like
Greek mythology. Yeah, yeah.
They try to kind of teach us in in the shows.
See, we're, yeah, we're dumb Americans.

(35:21):
We fucking, you know, they got fucking Smurfs and you know shit
that you know. Transformers shit that'll never
happen. Blue people care bears that walk
and talk. Yeah, yeah.
The cares will be do, Yeah. OK.
Yeah, it's probably mostly the same stuff.
Yeah, basically. Saturday morning cartoons was my

(35:44):
favorite. I would wake up early, get a big
old like Tupperware bowl. Not a regular bowl, but a
Tupperware bowl. Put a bunch of cereal milk in
it. Just watch cartoons.
Oh yeah, good times. Yeah, yeah.
If only you could go back knowing what you don't know.
Like just those moments. We're like, so precious.
No, like I think it would spoil it because I think some of the

(36:07):
things that made that that period of your life so special
is that you were so naive to life, you know, I think if you
knew what you knew now, it wouldchange things because you would
not have that same innocence andlike.
Yeah. You'd be like, fearing for like,
oh shit, oh shit, I know what's coming.
Yeah, oh man. Puberty now, like I I just

(36:32):
remember being so like young andinnocent.
I don't know about innocent, butyoung and naive and.
Well, no, when you were like a little kid and shit, right?
That's what we're talking about.Like a little kid, like, you
know, all dumb and shit. I I was born with a smart ass
mouth. OK I wasn't bad in the sense of
like I did bad things. I just had a mouth that was

(36:54):
reckless since birth is the minute I could start talking, I
was reckless. 0 filter. 0 Filter, like -0 filter my mom.
Oh my gosh, If I could do an interview with my mom, the
things that she would say, like she, she hated taking me places

(37:15):
she hated. Yeah, I was, I was reckless.
Reckless. That's the best way to describe
it. I lacked like fear as a child.
Like I was that kid that just kind of thought she could fly
off of anything. So yeah, like there was probably
a point where my mom was like, do I helmet this child because

(37:35):
she's. I love that, she said.
Do I helmet this child? Like, why are you wrapped in in
in Saran wrap? Like, because I don't want to
be. My mom doesn't want me to put my
arms out so I can fly. Yeah, my kid would be in a
bubble because of the just how Iwas as a kid.

(37:57):
I'm sure it would be like me 2.0.
Just roll me around. I love that.
So let me ask you a question. What did you want to be when you
grew up, when you were a kid? Oh goodness.
It's hard because I I idolized this industry.

(38:20):
It like as a kid too. Over exposed obviously, because
as a kid you shouldn't really know about this industry.
But late night movies, if I always watch what your kids are
up to like especially now that they have phones and stuff like
that, because it's so influential.
And what is the word influential?

(38:44):
So yeah. Wait, when we're talking about
as a kid, like how old? Well, like I, I mentioned this a
bit on on my first interview, I saw Demi Moore striptease at
like 7 and like that that solidified that like almost like

(39:04):
a somewhat of a hypersexuality, but also very closed off because
it was like I understood in my mind what that meant to show
parts off, you know what I mean?So yeah, for for me, it was
very, very young. And I am surprised by how that

(39:26):
story isn't that rare with especially amongst girls in the
industry to have had like a muchyounger exposing to this type of
work. Wait, you wanted to be a
stripper when you were 7? It wasn't even it wasn't exactly
that where it was like, oh, I want to be a stripper now.
It was kind of it opened the door to probably when I was

(39:50):
11/12. I I hung out with my sisters and
friends at back in the day. We had like rent a video stores.
Oh yeah, they smell too. They had like a certain smell.
Yeah, so there was this cool chick that worked there, and she
also worked as a stripper and just talked about stuff she
shouldn't have been talking about around preteen girls.

(40:14):
But then that solidified it for me.
Like wow, like God must have made me chubby because I was a
chubbier girl when I was young, or else, you know, he knew I
would have became a stripper. Oh God.
I was chubby and I still was like, I'm going to I I didn't
care like I tried to. I was 200 lbs and was signed up

(40:35):
to be a stripper. And then oddly enough they were
like when do you want to start? And I was like, oh just kidding.
Well. Yeah, 'cause like at the end of
the day, like men, they like that chick.
All right, so but and unfortunately in in my narrow
view of beauty, it was heavily pushed to be skids like skinny

(40:58):
skinny, which I never was like Iwas always normal to leaning
into being a a bit overweight growing up.
So yeah, I, I just thought that that was the way that God made
me, that I couldn't lose weight.Like just that mentality.
So. Well, I'm just fat and fluffy
and love every minute of it so and I've been plus sized my

(41:21):
whole life so well. It's different when I was
little. Like when I get hit puberty,
that's when I started to gain weight.
But honestly, what I thought washuge because everybody made me
feel like I was huge at that, you know, young tender age of
12/13. I was like a 14-6.
I really wasn't that big. Now I'm like a 22.
So I'm like, shit, if I could goback to that and I look at my

(41:45):
pictures and I'm like, damn, I was fine but.
Yeah, yeah. It's, it's sad looking back at
the old pick when you thought the worst of yourself going And
but it's like, you know what, Itwasn't that bad because yeah, I
was, I was a 10/10/12 what in mylike going into like a teenager.
And then I didn't, I didn't loseweight until I started.

(42:09):
I became vegetarian and dropped a sickly amount of weight really
quickly. So just yeah, there's you could
be healthy at all kinds of weights.
You can be unhealthy at all kinds of weights.
It really just depends on the. Quality that all the time.
I'm like, you know the the argument when people are like
they fake being concerned about my weight and I'm like, honey,

(42:31):
let me ask you a question. Are you healthy because you can
have diabetes? It doesn't.
It's not Privy to just people that are overweight.
You can have cancer, you can have high cholesterol, you can
have all the same things. Like those things are not just
exclusive to people that are overweight.
And it's like it irks me to no end because some of the most

(42:53):
sickly people that I've ever encountered in my life, we're
like super underweight. And it's like they used to
attack me for being overweight. And I'm like why does it matter?
Live your life. If you want to be 95 lbs, be 95
lbs. I doesn't hurt my feelings any.
I'm just cool being 260 plus because I, I fluctuate from 265

(43:16):
to 260 and I'm like, I'm cool with it.
Now I, I'm living a health healthier lifestyle because I am
diabetic. Diabetes runs in my family.
I am the only overweight person.So it's not just that I'm
overweight. I'm not going to say that it's
not because I'm overweight because it could be.
There's no way to tell. The doctors don't have a test to

(43:37):
say, oh, it's because you're overweight.
But diabetes runs on both sides of my family.
So there was a likeliness I was going to get it anyway.
But, you know, I digress. The point is is that you know,
there are, you know, things thatI'm trying to do in my life to
be healthier, Not necessarily tolose weight because I'm not
happy with my body, but just because I want to live forever

(44:00):
and cause havoc until I you know, I want to be here forever
and just cause havoc. I want to be 125 like hi I'm a
Cam girl still I want. To you're going to be a girl.
I am already, but I want to be, I want to be at the old folks

(44:23):
home like Golden Girls, but Golden Girls 2.0 where it's like
Golden Girls and they're like sex workers.
My God yes, like a golden girl. Yes.
I'm not into Gilfs or anything. I love Golden Girls.
I got Golden Girls pajamas and shit.

(44:45):
It's all thing. It's not.
I'm not fucking. You know, I don't want Bang
Dorothy or anything, but I thinkGolden Golden Girls was a great
show, but it was that would be fucking awesome.
I mean, I don't want. Then again, who wants to see
some old hags? You know, fucking dried up
fucking snatches banging and shit.

(45:06):
Well then I don't know. Out of curiosity, I might want
to see that. I don't think they're old hags,
I think they're mature women. Who yo I was now, Yeah.
Like a lot about that. Know a lot about having the
their Hootie Haas. Now hell yeah, imagine yo
fucking like think about the thethe the actresses like of Golden

(45:30):
Girls, like Betty White, funny as fuck, creative and shit.
Like I bang Betty, right? Who wouldn't?
Who wouldn't want to bang Betty White, right?
Am I right? Nobody agrees with.
Me. Is that your favorite?
Was that your favorite? Golden Girl.
Now I'd have to say all of them because they, they all had
their, you know, their differentpersonalities and everything.

(45:53):
Betty, you know, Saint Olaf, youknow, aloof, silly fucking.
Oh, shit. What was, you know, the, the
mom, Dorothy's mom, Sophia. I mean, come on, Sophia was
funny as shit. Yeah.
And what was so funny? Like, 'cause like, I, you know,
I love the fucking history and everything.

(46:13):
Like Estelle was actually fucking like the same age as all
the others. She was a little bit younger.
It. How crazy is that?
I always thought, like, look at her, she's fucking all the shit,
right? Yeah, Snatch is fucking yeah,
all dusty and shit. It ain't.
Dusty. No, your Dick is dusty.

(46:34):
All right, what the fuck? I didn't know we're all getting
all different. God damn shit I love.
I've never seen Golden Girls, soI don't know.
I don't. Know oh, we're going to have to
have a fucking Golden Girls watch party for you then.
Yes, yes. It is so good.

(46:56):
It really is a great show. It's so fucking funny and just.
It's really good. Yeah, I think you'd enjoy it.
Yeah, it was really good. Yeah, for all you youngins out
there, watch Golden Girls. You'll fucking love it.
I don't care how old you are. I'm doing a Golden Girls themed
birthday party for my next birthday.

(47:16):
I thought you were going to say like you were doing a Golden
Girls themed gangbang or something.
That'd be crazy. Maybe, maybe I'll organize one,
but to actually, no, no I don't.I don't do that kind of stuff
anymore. Oh shit, because I could play
this. I think I'm.
Too good for that. Oh, oh, I, I was about to be in

(47:40):
it. I was going to be like, like
Dorothy's husband. Remember Dorothy's husband?
He was like, yeah, yes. Stan.
Stan Gay. Why?
Because it's such a old age, it's gay.
But you know, I'm talking about like, you know, Gen.
X style, like, you know, it's like stupid or whatever.

(48:03):
Oh yeah, OK. Yeah, you know, not like
fucking. I'm not disrespectful to the
gays. I love gays.
Roman Santos asked. Hey, what I miss?
Oh, nothing. I don't think you missed
anything. Or just talking about Golden
Girls. And whack Weiner and Oh my

(48:28):
goodness, Oh my goodness. So disrespectful.
I know, I know. That's what you get from being
on Pervert Pete's channel. What the fuck?
Listen, I you know, we're twin, you know he's my twin brother.
We're supposed to like respect each other and he's so
disrespectful to me, but at least he lets me use his space,
so that's nice. And you know, he lets me use his

(48:50):
silver play button to trick bitches into thinking I'm a
famous YouTube and then, you know, they send me their nudes
and all that and then. Those going to say how you get
on? Yeah.
Then I then I reveal I'm like yeah no, that's not me bitch.
It all makes sense now. Yeah, now, now we're on to you.

(49:10):
We're on to you, Gary. Oh shit, did I just give away
my? I was just kidding.
I don't mean anything I say. It's all an act.
Yeah, OK. Yeah.
Is it an act? Who knows?
I don't know. I don't even know.
TuneIn to find out. So the reason why Star Wars came

(49:32):
up? Were you watching?
Did you hear me talking about I'm doing a show on Sunday for
May the Fourth Be with you? Yeah, that's when I I switched
it on when I was switching all my lights on.
Yeah, that actually sounded. No, she won't even give any
fucking details. I'm trying to get some details.
She won't give any. Listen, didn't we just talk
about if I give it all away, then why?

(49:54):
What is the the incentive for you to actually join?
I don't fucking know. Look at me.
I don't know what I'm doing. The fuck?
I don't know what I'm doing, youknow?
I can tell you you'll get a titty pic 'cause I will
definitely be showing titties. Oh shit.
Alright, yeah. Nice.
Yes. So are you going live?

(50:17):
Yeah, we live on SIM Party. SIM party I've never.
Heard SIM Party is a new. They're still in beta, but they
are a new site that is going to pretty fantastic, pretty

(50:38):
fantastic. I have some connections on the
inside where they're listening to feature ideas and very open
to their promoting their creators and really creating a
community that I think is going to supersede the other sites

(50:58):
that are currently out there. Because I feel like a lot of
those sites have just grown too big for their britches.
And they have their picks. And that's, you know, when if
you're not in that special circle, then you just don't get.
And they're not really inclusive.
And I just don't. Yeah, there's some sites where
you can make a lot of money. And I'll probably stay there
until this site gets better traffic.

(51:19):
I mean, they're, they're still working on things.
But Dan the man. But you know, I feel like I love
being a part of a website. Like, for instance, loyal fans.
I had been with loyal fans sinceDe Uno.
And I love being a part of a site and watching it grow and,

(51:40):
you know, developing that relationship where they remember
the creators that helped them get off the ground, you know?
So that that's like, I feel likewhat the industry is like
missing is kind of the where themodel can be heard by by the
company, because at the end of the day, who knows it more than

(52:05):
us, especially if you participated in multiple
platforms and stuff, you learn alot of you know what works and
then definitely. Well, who knows the fans better
and their spending habits and what's going to incentivize
spending better than the person who or creates that dynamic,
right? And for me, the the thing that

(52:27):
really baffles me is like, and Gary and I were talking about
this earlier about like with only fans.
It's like the people that are behind the scenes when it comes
to Cam companies or adult industry companies or only fans
agencies and management or whatever the case may be.
A lot of these people have no real creator insight and so

(52:48):
they're basing things off of mainstream marketing tactics and
strategies. And it's like some of those
things work, but a lot of them don't.
It's whole, it's a whole different ball game when you're
talking about, you know, how, how am I going to take advice
from someone who doesn't know how to sell themselves?
You know what I mean? Selling, selling a yet is

(53:11):
different than me selling myselfbecause it's based off of my
personality, it's based off of my likes and interests and you
know, the commonalities that I have with my fan base.
So for me, what makes it specialis I want to be involved with
companies who care about the people that make them money

(53:31):
because the sites don't exist without us.
Absolutely. Yeah.
And the more like people in the industry become more aware, like
the, the models and creators, we're going to go, OK, wait a
second, why are we allowing the top platforms to be run by

(53:52):
people that don't care about ouropinions and stuff like that?
And just with the way technologywill become easier to use, like
at what point how will we not have like a fully run by
creators and and have that be like the number one platform?
Because I feel like that time has to be coming.

(54:13):
It already has come. That's how Only Fans became so
successful because for the firsttime in our industry, the fans
and the followers and the audience had the opportunity to
connect directly with their favorite performers.
Because even though they could connect with them on social
media, it was different because a lot of us were like, I'm not

(54:36):
talking to y'all because that's all we would do.
So if you're a fan and you're trying to create, you know,
reach out to your favorite creator or your celebrity or
whatever it the reason why they're not speaking to you
more, more than likely is because that's all we would do
all day, every day is answer DMS, hundreds and hundreds of
DMS. If if everyone knew that that

(54:56):
that's where they could talk to us, then that's all we would do
and we would never make any money.
And then we would fizzle out of the industry because when it's
not lucrative and we can't survive.
So only fans took the social media aspect of the industry and
made it so that you, the performer, are now responsible

(55:17):
for putting out your content, amateur or professional,
independently running your pagesand having that direct access to
fans where you could monetize your availability and your
efforts and your time. And it's like, you know, so it
has happened. Unfortunately, it hasn't
happened in a broader scale likea big campsite because their

(55:43):
dynamic is the more people that are live, the more money they
make. So it's there's less and like
there's less time or less interest in learning more about
their performers, except for theones that are making big money
or already have big followings. And so I like being a part of
SIM Party because I feel like they really genuinely care about

(56:05):
developing the site for the performer and making it as
comprehensive or maximizing yoursuccess and your earnings.
And you know who doesn't want tobe a part of that ground up, you
know? Yeah.
So is it so it's a a live platform sort of to like what
you call like a traditional campsite?

(56:27):
Yes, but they are working on incorporating other things that
will make it beyond the other platforms.
Now I can't really talk about what those are because, you
know, I, I don't know for certain where that's going, but
I, I have heard talk about like incorporating like a fan club

(56:49):
and you know, which is really what only fans is missing is
that, which that's kind of what makes loyal fans.
In my opinion. I like loyal fans better because
their platform has better features.
It has the discoverability aspect where if you upload new
content, you show up on a discoverability page and those

(57:12):
things make loyal fans. Their media cloud, their live
stream. Like you go live, you can go
with up to four people at the same time.
The video store, the audio store, like there's just
features galore that make loyal fans, in my opinion, far
superior. What makes Only Fans more
successful is that that's where the traffic goes.

(57:34):
People just automatically look for people on Only Fans.
And even when I don't update my page, I somehow end up with new
fans because they just find my page somehow.
So when loyal fans can have thattype of traffic, which, you
know, I don't think it's impossible, but it takes time to
develop. But yeah, campsite, A

(57:55):
comprehensive campsite that letsyou do everything that you want
to do on one site. I mean, the Sky's the limit,
right? Yeah, yeah.
No, I'll have to. I'll have to keep a eye out for
that because yeah, that doesn't sound.
I can send you my link. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

(58:16):
Well, I'm curious as you know, an outsider like what would be
the ultimate site like a combination of all the, you
know, all the features like whatis there an ultimate site, the
ultimate? Site would be, let's say loyal

(58:38):
fans with clips for sale, minivids, traffic.
Now they already have the store feature, so there's already that
feature implemented into the site.
But ultimately the, the, the thing that would make it like

(58:59):
the ultimate site would have a fan club feature, the ability to
connect a membership site to it.So let's say you have the option
of someone who gets access to a,a public feed and messaging.
But then they also have the option of getting like, let's
say my only fans is $10 a month.But then I could have like a
membership site that's $50.00 a month and they could just get

(59:22):
access to everything and being able to upload content and
select one or the other or both.So you didn't have to constantly
do all these different things. It could literally be like, I'm
uploading this video, I want to send it out as a locked PPVI,
want to send it out to my membership, you know, as a free

(59:42):
video. Like if you were just able to do
everything in one click and it had a campsite that had the kind
of traffic like Chatterbait or Stream Mate.
So you've got the store, you've got the cams, you've got the
membership site, and it was tiedto social media.

(01:00:02):
So like you could have your social media feeds and like
everything kind of you could post from your page to your
social media. So it's all tied together.
Yeah, that that that kind of does sound like the ultimate.
I mean, everything, everything you just said, coming soon to

(01:00:26):
the camgirldiaries.com. Everything she just said.
Yeah, because I can implement it.
You know, I'm an expert. You're an expert.
You're you're an expert. No, I'm kidding.
I'll fucking know. Like that sounds like a lot of
work. Who the fuck Like, I guess
that's that might be why like you know, these sites can't

(01:00:49):
fucking implement it. Like fucking like you said,
loyal fans, you know, implementswhat they implement fans.
Lee is kind of similar to loyal fans.
They do a little differently andonly fans does only fans.
You know I don't fucking. Oh, I'm not.
Only Fans Guru Only fans for me is very simple.

(01:01:12):
So I get why they haven't like expanded their features.
And to be honest with you, I feel like only fans has kept it
the way that it has is because it's really they're, they're
hoping to keep it and design it for mainstream performers, not
adult content creators. And it's funny you say that.

(01:01:32):
You see only fans, TVO, ftv.com,Yeah, like you see on their
feed, they're fucking. And a while ago, they someone
reached out to me to put the podcast on there.
And of course I fucking you know, I just disregarded like an
asshole because I'm a moron. But like you see a lot of

(01:01:53):
fucking a lot of you know, it's not just like, you know, girls
that are showing their fucking Beavers and shit.
It's girls that are doing like just cooking shows or.
There's none of that on OFTVOFTVis on Roku and some other stuff,
and it's literally just safer work content.
In fact, even the podcasts that are on there, you have to be

(01:02:14):
very like, there's a lot of things that you can't say.
That yeah, could, Yeah, No, go ahead.
They're trying to make it seem like it's it's a lot more
wholesome that's bringing in allthe revenue.
Is that what they're trying to do?
Well, I believe there are plans to eventually branch off with

(01:02:38):
Adult on a completely different platform.
I'm such an idiot. It's because you know, this
person, she reached out to me to, you know, she was like, oh,
I'd love to put the, you know, just promote your shit on OFTVI
was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'll I'll get to it and shit.

(01:03:01):
I just disregarded like an asshole could have been on Roku
TV and shit. What the fuck?
Yeah, but stupid. Yeah, but you'd have to censor
heavily censor your content, your conversation, your.
Yeah, she did talk about that. Yeah, I think that might be why.
Just that. That's why I disregarded it,

(01:03:23):
'cause I'm fucking I I keeps it.I just like a Dave Chappelle
skit. I keeps it real, which you know,
fucking, you know, which makes me a failure 'cause you know it.
Does keep it real? Failure.
Have you seen a Dave Chappelle skit of keeping it real where it
went well? I love Dave.
Chappelle. Yeah, never went well.

(01:03:44):
That's where I'm at because I keeps it real and.
Shit, I mean, I mean, you know. That's why you got to that's.
A hard line to tell. That that's why I fucking, you
know, I can't advance because I refuse to fucking censor shit.
I refuse to do that. But.
That's why you have the fans that you have because they come

(01:04:07):
to you knowing that you're goingto keep it raw and real versus,
I'll be honest on some of my stuff, I am very careful about
what I say and how I say it because I'm already a sex
worker. So that in itself makes me a
target. So I know that me being super

(01:04:28):
like raw and real, there's a lotof things I'd love to say, but I
know that there are consequencesfor those things and I'm trying
to build relationships. And so you are in a much
different situation. You are in a position, a very
free position, to just say what the fuck you want to say and
fuck it, it is what it is. Two tears in a bucket.

(01:04:51):
Fuck it, that's how we roll and shit, right?
Two tears again. Fuck it.
Yeah. That's how we roll.
Yeah, but that's, and yeah, it's, it's funny you say that
because like my, my twin brotherPete, you know, like he, he got
all pussified and shit. He was like, oh, I better, I

(01:05:11):
better fucking, you know, I'll try to censor myself and shit.
And once he starts censoring himself himself, it fucking
like, you know, the views declined and shit, you know,
because the, you know, the people that actually like this
shit were fucking, you know, they weren't tuning in because
he's censoring, you know, peoplecan tell and shit.
So yeah. So you have to pick, that's the

(01:05:33):
thing. You have to pick either you go
balls deep of just doing what you do and just, you know, grow
slowly and find those fucking you know, you know, you reach
out to those people that are into that shit, or you try to be
a mainstream bitch, you know, which isn't a bad thing.
That's not a bad thing. You know it's.

(01:05:54):
I am a mainstream bitch. I, you know, I, I'm going to be
honest. With you, why I?
Went I went from being, I went from being unfiltered my whole
life. And then I get into corporate
America and they teach you that everything that you say is
either sexual harassment, discrimination, like everything

(01:06:16):
that came out of my mouth was offending somebody.
So I had to literally scale backand go to the other end of the
spectrum. And now I'm finding as I get
older, I'm breaking more and more those corporate bullshit
pieces off to where now I'm justcareful about what I say because

(01:06:36):
I have a reckless mouth, like I said.
And I don't want to have to apologize for something that I
never really meant to say just because I let it come out, you
know what I mean? Oh, absolutely.
And plus at this point you're able to, you know, like you've
done it for so long. You can navigate that shit.
You know me, I can't fucking navigate that shit.

(01:06:57):
I just. Look how dope that is.
I mean, you're so you're so little on here.
I can barely. See.
What is that? That's me as Princess Leia on my
phone. Oh, OK, I see it.
Now those tits. Do I see tits?
I see a tit. Why do I only have one?
I have two. Wait, I I thought I saw a tit.

(01:07:20):
I'm kind of blind now 'cause, you know, my eyes are getting
worse, OK? Yeah, I can make you false.
Yeah. Oh shit, I think I can do that,
but I'm. Telling it now it's cool.
So is that what we're going to see on that on your show?
No, that picture, no, I'm going to be.

(01:07:40):
No, I mean you. Is that what you're doing?
I mean. Who else is going to dress as
Princess Leia? I don't know, maybe you're
dressing as fucking Chewbacca. Or fucking, you know, the
snowball diet. Or.
You know one of those charactersfrom Spaceballs.

(01:08:01):
I just want someone to be a character on Spaceballs.
What are the characters on Spaceballs?
I don't know, you got John Candyand the president from
Independence Day and that hottiefrom Melrose Place.
Daphne Zuniga. You got wait, wait, wait.

(01:08:22):
And you got Joan Rivers. Yeah, Bill, Yes, the president.
And you got Joan Rivers, right? She played the the robot.
Mel. Mel.
Mel Brooks. Mel Brooks.
Yeah. And what's his?
Name Rick Moranis, Yes, Rick Moranis is helmet or some shit.

(01:08:45):
Yeah, he plays. Yeah, Oh my God, Spaceballs was
such a great movie. It was I'm.
Yeah, I get. I'm like, huh?
You've never seen Spaceballs. No, that is your homework
assignment. That is your homework
assignment. You.
Have to It is such a good it's such a good movie.
Don't. Come back to.

(01:09:06):
You, yeah 'cause you were sayinghow you weren't really
interested in space as a kid, but then like as an adult you
were kind of getting there. I was the exact same way.
I was terrified of the idea of space.
Like it was like I hated learning about the planets in in
school, but yeah, like now I'm like fascinated by it.
So yeah, I'll check out Spaceballs.
Anything with falls in. Space.

(01:09:28):
Oh yeah, my kind of girl. Nice, yeah.
I love these Earth's balls. Some Spaceballs.
That's great. Good.
You now have homework. OK.
Pillow mass? How does joystick allow gaming?

(01:09:49):
I love drawing people in with a good game.
What? What the hell is joystick?
And I don't know what he's talking about.
Does anyone know? I'm sorry, Pelham, I don't know.
We need to get. We need to get.

(01:10:11):
My robot says cool. We need to get the sound
effects. How do we get the sound effects?
Do you know? Do you have a sound effects
board? What do I look like?
A fucking podcaster? I don't fucking have a sound
board. I barely have a computer.
I'm running this shit on a fucking Tandy 286.

(01:10:31):
Wow. Yeah, we're rolling deep on a
fucking Tandy. Tandy does not roll webcam.
It cannot handle webcam that's. Listen it.
Yeah, I know No. Well, basically.
Old. It was connected to a mod like
ATV, not even a monitor. That was before monitors were
part of the. All right, So what if I got a

(01:10:53):
VGA monitor? All right, Why you gotta call me
out? It's cool.
Yeah. Vintage.
That's how we roll. We're vintage.
OK, vintage. Sookie, Sookie, Nice fuck.
Your brother now. I mean, we're twins, you know,

(01:11:15):
We share that kind of shit, Do. You share Hootie ha.
Pussy. No, we don't share pussy.
He bangs his own bitches, I bangmy own.
You know what? Kind of.
What kind of bitches does Pete like?
Pete, he'll fuck anything that moves.
He's, you know, he has no standards.

(01:11:36):
What about you? What's your?
What's your? Oh, I have standards, you know.
I mean, I'm not banging some fucking crackhead.
Not that that's about it. I just won't bang a crackhead.
Yeah, it depends on the day, Yeah, because like, I had a bad

(01:11:56):
day, you know? I'm fucking rolling deep on the
fucking streets and shit. See a crackhead?
You know, rolling. Nowhere.
Oh what the fuck? I'm.
Rolling deep on the have you know what I'm saying glasses,
some Wu Tang like. Whatever.
Oh no, got my fucking, you know,bass, but all right, never mind.

(01:12:19):
You know you're listening to BonJovi.
Living out a prayer. Well, yeah, that's my life.
But you know, man, no, I've beenlistening.
Well, actually, no, I've been listening to a lot.
What? On YouTube, there's these guys
that do like mashups. I've been listening to a lot of

(01:12:39):
Danzig mashups. Like they're mashing up Danzig
with fuck Michael Jackson and shit.
Like they put the music of Michael Jackson with Danzig's
vocals and shit. Fucking amazing.
I think Bill Mcclintock is one of them.
Nobody gives a shit, but yeah, it's we.
Do we? Do I?

(01:13:00):
There's this guy that I had thatthis DJ that I had on here.
DJ Jazzy Jeff in The Fresh Prince.
No, it's been it's been a while.And during the pandemic, he used
to mash up Evanescence with Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit.
It was, gosh, I can't remember his name, but going back to the

(01:13:25):
pandemic, remember the guy that had on the road?
What the hell is his name? Well, he does those songs where
he's like get the fuck up. Oh my God, hold on, I can't
think of his name. I don't know but what what I'm
saying, And there's a lot of Youtubers that do it, like Bill

(01:13:45):
Mcclintock is probably the best that I think.
Yeah, they, they, they take the fucking vocals, take out the
fucking music, put in some othershit, like with this, the
Michael Jackson shit, they play the Michael Jackson music with
Danzig's vocals and just pair itup perfectly.

(01:14:07):
Like they take the oh, you better fucking be careful, we're
going to get fucking, you know, copyright strike and shit.
Yeah, watch that it. Was only two seconds.
We're good. Hey, you never know, man.
What is the rule for that? Like, because people will
sometimes like have like, yeah, like quick 2 seconds in their
vlogs or whatever. What is the rule for that kind?

(01:14:31):
Of for YouTube, it's so fucking Gray, nobody knows.
It could be, you know, .5 seconds, it could be, you know,
2 minutes. Like there's no fucking, like
some people could just play shitand it just depends, depends who
strikes it, you know, like a lotof people, like you know, what

(01:14:52):
the fuck is it? I lost my train of thought.
But yeah, it could be fucking bad.
I apologize I was just trying toshow y'all the wake the fuck up
guy. No, that's the thing.
Like for YouTube, that's why YouTube sucks.
They're so like, there's no, everything is so Gray, you know,

(01:15:13):
like Rumble. Like we're also on Rumble right
now. We could play anything.
I could whip my Dick out. You could whip your tits out.
Fucking Rumble. Don't care.
That's how Rumble rolls. Oh, fuck yeah.
Bust them out. Rumble don't give a shit.
What I didn't know this? About yeah, Rumble represent
let's bust our fucking tits out.I'll bust mine out.
But you know, that's different. Who gives a shit?

(01:15:36):
If I was given a freeze. Yeah, right, right, right.
So. Where is your where is.
That country campsite. Well so I don't actually do.
I did about a month of camming on my free cams in the first
year that I started, but becauseI have such bad ADDI couldn't

(01:15:56):
stand not having interaction or if it was just like people just
sitting there that weren't actually tipping to do anything.
Just I didn't mind talking to them, but I just like I it was
so hard for me to go, OK, I'm going to jump on for X amount of
hours, knowing there's a chance that it I could just be kind of
sitting there. I'm more of like tell me what to

(01:16:18):
do and I'll do it like but to meto me before.
So that didn't really suit kind of my style.
I really like doing sex Panther because I could be busy bodying
around doing other things and then when somebody wants to do
video call or phone call, I'm I'm hearing the ringer and I'm
running for it. I would love to get like into a

(01:16:43):
space where I could maybe have like a couple of days a week
where I have full shows planned and then try camming again, But
I would have to have like stuff that I had planned out to do so
that there was my ADD doesn't kick in two.
Suggestions 11. I suggest a moderator and having

(01:17:04):
conversations with your moderator that sound like you're
speaking to a fan, but you're actually talking to your
moderator and just going back and forth.
That keeps you busy and not paying attention to people who
aren't. And not only that, but like
people want to be a part of the conversation.
So like for instance, when I wascamming on Chaturbate and I

(01:17:27):
would have these conversations about traveling abroad to go
find my next cub, or I was goingto go to a lifestyle party, a
swinger party, whatever. Like I would just be talking to
my moderator and we would just be having these like
conversations that invited people to be like, oh, where are

(01:17:50):
you going next? I'd be like, oh, I'm going to
New Jersey. I'm going to Chicago, I'm going
to LA or whatever. And they would want to be a part
of the conversation. And in order for them to be a
part of the conversation, I'll be like, hey, you know, why
don't you start, start tipping? And I often times wouldn't even
tell them where I was going unless they tipped.

(01:18:10):
And so that was one way that kept me because I'm the same
way. Like I want to do all these
different things because I'm bored waiting for people to tip
me and then I'm not good with the whole like, oh, you should
tip me. I'm like, yo, give me your
fucking money. Do you want to see something or
not so? Having a fuck you pay me.
Right, so haven't having a moderator is great.

(01:18:33):
The second thing that I would recommend is.
Wait, wait, how do you find moderators?
Because I had a flood of guys come in like my first couple
shifts, like, oh, I'll be your moderator.
Or trying to like just without even saying it, tell me kind of
what's you and I didn't know, like who was Benjamin?

(01:18:55):
I would like even someone like myself, like another performer
and then that way like I don't want anything out of it.
Like I'm just there. Oftentimes I'm camming too.
So we're just helping each otherby talking and keeping ourselves
company and keeping the conversation lively so that
they're like, oh, what are you guys talking about?
And it's like, oh, we're going to link up together.

(01:19:16):
We're going to collab, We're going to, you know, this is my
girlfriend, this is my like, youcould really span it to
anything. The second thing I would
recommend is I film content while I'm live.
So I'm killing two birds with one stone and they're either
when they start tipping then obviously I'll abandoned my, you

(01:19:39):
know, whatever else I'm doing. But I often times will flip the
Cam on and be filming while I are like doing stuff while I'm
live so that I can have content that fills that void and also
keeps me busy and productive. You want to be as productive as

(01:20:00):
possible, but I would also love.That.
Yeah. I mean, do you have an OF?
I do. Well.
I've had kind of like some loyalfans that have kind of stuck
around while I've had some health stuff.
I would like to more so venture to doing like loyal fans.

(01:20:20):
I've heard a lot of good things about loyal fans, so that's what
I have my eye on next. I've had issues with getting
paid with only like it's. Like because of Canada?
So yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm I'm looking more and more
at loyal fans as kind of being like a main base first.

(01:20:41):
Wait a minute. Wait, are you saying that
America hates Canadian only fansgirls?
Is that what you're saying? What's the problem?
It's. Probably more so, more so like
the banks and stuff. Like that?
Oh yeah, banks are a bunch of. Pussy.
Well, it's something that we're experiencing in the adult
industry worldwide. There's a lot of banking systems

(01:21:04):
that do not allow adult paymentsto be made to their banks Oregon
through their banks OR to their bank.
So getting our money from the companies is problematic when
your personal bank doesn't want to accept that.
Phoenix Entertainment, which is only Fans or whatever the other

(01:21:25):
sites are, doesn't. They're not accepting those
payments because they come from an adult provider.
In fact, Chase was. There's a big thing with Wells
Fargo and Chase where they shut down personal accounts that were
tied to adult industry deposits.So it is a big issue for us in

(01:21:48):
this business. But so it makes it even more
problematic because a lot of thebanks that are in Canada are
Canada. Like obviously the the exchange,
the money exchange from Americandollars to Canadian dollars.
Because American money is less, there's less value.

(01:22:08):
The Canadian dollar is worth more.
So are there in America? Is there sex worker lobbyists?
Because I mean, Donald Trump would fucking be all over this.
I mean, he loves sex workers. No, he does not.
What? He fucking got all kinds of sex
workers. What are you talking about?

(01:22:29):
He fucking. Yeah, but Daniels, what the
fuck? Stormy Daniels came out and made
him and put him on blast. He no he no longer is a fan.
That fucking bitch, she fucked it up for all of you girls.
She did not fuck it up for everybody.
Bitch. Oh, I'm sorry, I don't know.

(01:22:51):
We're not even going to talk about orangutan, but.
Monkeys. Why are we going to talk about
monkeys? Orange man.
They call them orangutan. Oh, oh, what the fuck, Donald
Trump? I mean, I'm not.
I don't want to get into politics or anything.
I could give two shits about politics, but come on.
Donald Trump is the fucking man.He don't give a fuck.

(01:23:13):
He does what he wants. He don't.
Give a shit man. What?
He doesn't give a shit. He's like, hey, fuck you, I'm
doing this. You don't like it, fuck you.
Especially now, because there's no fucking risk he's not getting
voted in four years from now. You know what I mean?
You don't give a fuck, Ari. I'm sorry, Ari.

(01:23:34):
Apparently we fuck it. Ari, just disregard everything I
just said. But Donald Trump is man.
I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit.
Donald Trump is a fucking man. He don't give a fuck.
I don't even know his politics. I don't give a shit about his
politics. All I care about is he doesn't
give a fuck, he does what he want.
You have a Wiener, so of course he's the man.

(01:23:56):
But you know, if you if you had some pussy lips then you might
think differently. That's a great point.
What? What's the problem?
Go ahead, Lily. I, I was going to say I'm less
afraid of Trump than in Canada, our government.
So I'm like if, if, if Trump, ifTrump deems us worthy to be a

(01:24:21):
part of the United States. I'm in Alberta.
So I have, I feel like more of achance I'm, I'm down because it,
it sucks not being able to participate in so many of the
things you get to do in sex work, being an American.
So for for me, but like that's my personal, I'm seeing the
benefits. You know what?

(01:24:43):
It's a Every individual would see it differently because it's
what benefits them or. What is going to happen in the
situation? Clients in Canada and they all
feel the same. They feel like there's such
limitations being in Canada. And like one of my girlfriends
or one of my clients, she can't travel to the US because when

(01:25:06):
she came to the US several yearsago and shot scenes here, when
she went back to Canada, they flagged her. the US flagged her
and said that she didn't pay taxes in the in the US and so
she can't come back. So if this happens, then she can
now travel back in the United States and be able to resume,
you know, filming and all that kind of stuff.

(01:25:27):
And so, you know, for her, she'sall about it.
Plus she doesn't like whoever the Prime Minister is.
And she just says that there's alot of things that people don't
realize are happening in Canada that are problematic as well.
And I'm like, well, it's happening all over the world,
you know, And I guess if you look at things differently, like

(01:25:52):
Canada versus US, like some of the things that she said to me
that she can't do that, I'm justlike, oh, yeah, I guess.
I guess I do take my freedom forgranted, but yeah.
Yeah, Yeah. So it is.
It's like individual perspectiveI guess.
Like how? For sure, for sure.
But yeah, I'm I'm all for Alberta 51 if that's what it

(01:26:14):
ends up being. I'm all.
For it the 51st. And people say like, well, yeah,
it's like, well, doesn't that because I'm born in Niagara
Falls ON which at Once Upon a time was America.
So you know what I mean? If I was born however many years
earlier, I would have technically on that land been
American. And for me, it's more so about

(01:26:36):
the people respecting the land. Canada is a word.
Words mean nothing. People mean things.
The the ground means things. The trees mean things, like, you
know what I mean? So for me, I see complete
mishandling of our country by the current people in and if
somebody would like to come and remove us from that situation, I

(01:26:59):
would be more than OK with that.However, then you find out that
it's worse here or yeah anyways.Yeah, yeah.
And then it's either yeah, goes either way.
But yeah, I'm you're. You're like, you're at that
stage, or you're like, it'll at least be different.

(01:27:21):
It'll be different sets of challenges.
Like that's how I feel for people that leave the country.
Like they move to these other places.
And I'm like, yeah, you might beavoiding what's happening here,
but what problems are you going to encounter in your new place?
Yeah, like tons of people leaving to retire in other
places, so much cheaper. But it's like, OK, you get a set

(01:27:43):
amount of Social Security every month.
What happens when so many peoplerelocate and all of a sudden
prices go up? And now what you once could
afford in that country, now you can't because times have
changed. So yeah, like what seems good in
the short term maybe isn't good in the.
Well, they feel like they're retiring anyway, so how long are

(01:28:05):
they going to be around to see if that happens?
You know, because that's what happened in Florida.
Florida back in the day. I mean, we talked about Golden
Girls back in the day. Florida used to be super duper
cheap. You could go down there, buy a
house super duper cheap by the beach, Sarasota, Boca Raton,
like all these places were mega cheap.

(01:28:26):
And now, you know, several decades later, Florida is
fucking expensive and it's super.
Well, I mean, back in the 80s, Imean Blanche and Rose and they
had to move in together. So maybe it wasn't so cheap back
in the 80s. Well, I don't think Miami has

(01:28:46):
ever really been well, I think during that time.
No, I don't know. I think it was just for the, you
know, the setup of the show. No, I get.
There people, I mean, listen, I feel like certain people get to
an age where you want to be in ahousehold where you know you can
take care of each other. Oh yeah, I mean.

(01:29:09):
Going I want to go to an old folks home because I want to
have access first of all, if you've ever been to an old folks
home, the gossip unhinged is unmatched.
The stories like just, I just want to be somewhere where I can
be in the mix of things and justlike when I don't want to be

(01:29:30):
like there are people on TikTok,there are TikTok accounts that
are so popular and it's literally old people doing Tik
toks. And then there's this one of
this lady where she talks about how she's dating different guys
in the in the old folks home andit's hilarious watching her put

(01:29:51):
on, she'll put on her lipstick and she'd be like, this is my
outfit for what I'm wearing to go to lunch with so and so.
And I'm just like, this lady has2,000,000 followers.
I almost want to like make myself look old and pretend I'm
in an old folks home too and be like I'm going on a date with my

(01:30:14):
neighbor. Well, I mean, a while ago there
was those those fucking stories about old people getting herpes
and fucking old people's homes and shit.
You're spreading herpes all around and fucking syphilis, all
kinds of shit. It was crazy.
But Speaking of syphilis, I'm going to have to step out for a
minute because my son won't go to sleep and.

(01:30:36):
Well, I think we could just call.
We could call it a night. Your son won't go to sleep.
He's 8 years old. You won't fucking listen.
Well then I say it's time to call it a night.
What do you think? It is.
It's time to call it a night forme.
And shit, he's fucking 8. But yeah, whatever you're.

(01:30:56):
Going to be asleep before he will.
Absolutely. Oh, what?
Because I'm old? Oh well, you're right, but what
the fuck? Golden, Gary.
Golden, Gary. Of course, so disrespectful.

(01:31:23):
Oh my God that was fucking hilarious.
It's all good. I'm going to.
Get just name change. Well, you know the name of this
fucking podcast on Spotify? Apple.

(01:31:44):
That's where you can find it. Oh.
Golden Geary. Oh my God, I'm crying.
That's hilarious. Oh, bitch, we did that.
Yeah, I know. I am a fucking.
Bitch, no, that's all good. I'll represent Golden Girl.
I'll represent Golden Girls day and night.

(01:32:04):
I don't give a fuck. Golden Girls represent.
Hell yeah. OK.
All right, Well, thank you guys so much for joining us.
It's been it's been a riot. We've been all over the place.
A roller coaster. Yeah, Maude. *** What?
What? You like Maude?

(01:32:24):
Oh shit, who knows about Maude? Oh, shit, you don't even know
about Maude Bea Arthur before Golden Girls, Maud.
Nah. Aw, shit.
All right, so now I just revealed how old I am.
I'm in my fucking 50s apparently.

(01:32:45):
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