November 6, 2025 • 49 mins
This one starts with chaos — a full lost recording, a blind eye, two broken cars, and a week that could’ve broken anyone. Instead, it turned into something deeper: perspective. Jesse opens up about nearly going blind, a cascade of bad luck, and the moment he stopped fighting what life was throwing at him. From stoic philosophy to the power of forgiveness, this episode hits like a therapy session you didn’t know you needed.
You’ll laugh, cringe at the eyeball needle story, and probably rethink what you’re holding onto that’s poisoning your peace. The guys weave in Idiocracy, haunted house stories, and how not to let fear, religion, or your own ego drive the car.
In this episode:
• How losing your vision can open your eyes (literally and spiritually)
• Why life’s worst weeks can reset your mindset
• Stoicism for stoners — letting go without going numb
• What forgiveness actually does to your health
• Why everything — good, bad, or holy — eventually turns to poo
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(00:00):
I'm Brandon. And I'm Jesse, we're cannabis
school. Having cannabis infuse
conversations. With everyday.
People. Cannabis companies.
Celebrities. And your mom?
Welcome to the sesh. Hey guys, guess what?
We just had an hour conversationand not a single second of it
(00:20):
was recorded. Oh my God, that's hilarious.
I remember what we talked about.I do too.
But let's take it from the top. But.
But I was just kind of like, Oh my God, I cannot believe that.
Because when you hopped on and you said, hey, it's recording.
So that way it gave me a warningit was not being recorded.
(00:41):
Yeah, warned me is saying that this this episode can be
recorded and I'm like, OK. Damn it.
So I touched it. That's funny as shit, dude.
That's terrible. Well, welcome to the sesh,
everybody. You know today we actually know
exactly what we want to talk about.
So this will actually flow much better.
I had to switch to Brandon cheese because this this swing
(01:04):
wing cut of sour diesel got me kind of stupefied.
So this one's kind of like bringing me back.
It's. Wondering if I change it up, but
if so I'd have to go find another flower right now.
You can go find another flower. Don't worry about it because I
don't even have enough for one full good bowl.
I do maybe well. Go ahead and go 'cause I'll
(01:24):
start it out a second. Yeah, yeah.
So here's what we were talking about at first.
I've been going through some shit lately, a lot of shit.
Last week, Sunday, well, a couple weeks ago on a Sunday,
'cause this is out on the 6th, Istarted getting these weird
black spots in my vision and I didn't know what it was and then
(01:47):
they kept coming and it wouldn'tgo away.
I called my eye doctor and they go, Oh yeah, that can happen.
It's like these little floaters kind of happens with the age and
you're diabetic. So yeah, it could have happened.
Anyways, that accumulated to this moment where I could have
gone blind. I I was pretty much blind in my
right eye. There was so much blood in there
(02:07):
that I couldn't see out of my cornea and then my left eye when
I'd seen the eye doctor and toldme like, hey, you're going to be
screwed up here if we don't get that checked out soon, so.
Nuts. Is it still pretty red on that
one? That's not too bad.
It's not too bad at all. It was pretty wicked.
Yeah. The.
Most bloodshot looking eye I have ever seen.
(02:30):
Yeah, it was like straight demoneye.
And yeah, it ended up like I ended up going into an eye
surgeon on Monday afternoon. And when I got there, they're
like, yeah, we're going to have to do a procedure right here.
And that included putting these amazing drops that makes you
feel like you had edibles because it dries out your eyes.
(02:53):
It feels like it, but it's numbing it because what they did
next was, as they said, it goes,all right, I need you to look up
and to the left for my left eye,up and to the right.
And I do that. And then he inserts a needle
underneath my eyeball into theirinjecting novocaine.
Does it have both of them comes back?
(03:14):
And that's the crazy thing, dude, with those drops, I didn't
feel shit. How?
I just, I felt like somebody touched my eyeball.
I've had no I probably had novocaine for a surgery.
Do you feel loopy? Like how does that?
I just don't feel anything. So the there it it was just.
Have them with needles in your eye.
Well, it made me think about like, if you really get your eye
(03:35):
injured, you're not going to feel like a ton of pain.
You will feel pain, but it's more of the pressure cause the
nerve, optic nerve inside that feels the pressure.
And that's the only thing that changed for me.
And I was like, whoa, that's feeling kind of weird.
My eyes were like heavy. But yeah, they just added liquid
into something that doesn't require any extra liquid.
(03:56):
So it's like, and then he came back in when it was all numb and
he put this medicine in there and it pretty much blinded me
for about good 40 minutes. And I called Brandon and I'm
talking and I and I and I started driving after a little
while and that probably wasn't agood idea, but I didn't, I
needed to get home. Because as I got out of the
(04:20):
doctor's office and I'm sitting in the car blind thinking, I
don't want to sit in the waitingroom at this ophthalmologist
with all these old people aroundme that are looking at me while
I'm talking on the phone saying fuck this and shit in hell,
right. So I was just trying to be
courteous and my wife calls me. She's talking to me on the
phone. And as we're talking on the
phone, she's like, smoke's coming out of the engine.
(04:42):
And I said, is it white or is itdark?
And she goes, it's white. And I said, your radiator is
gone. You need to pull over and get
out of the car. And she's like, is it going to
blow up? I'm like, just pull over and
park it and turn it off. She's like, what are we going to
do? And I'm like, we'll figure it
out. We find out that our, our little
insurance thing that we had extra that they made us get for
(05:04):
it only covers the radiator and doesn't cover the rest.
So now I'm looking at almost $2000 in a bill to get my wife's
car back. We got my car and the power
steering is going out on that one.
I can't see throughout this whole week.
One of the busiest raining weeksof my in my company.
(05:24):
It's like boot camp for sales and it's hardcore and was
awesome, but. You had to be at home the whole
week instead because yeah. And I don't like, I don't like
that I didn't like it because itwas so much harder for me to
focus on doing my job because I don't have an office set up,
which made me think about I needto set a place up in my house as
(05:46):
an office when I work from home so I can get that same, you
know, job done. But anyways, it was really rough
because my eyes hurt every day. I was seeing double most of the
time. And.
And yet somehow you beat me in Gran Turismo.
He's the. Best drunk driver ever.
No, no, no. Remember the first time we'd
(06:06):
raced? I was like you kicked my ass all
night and I was trying so hard and it was I was having a shitty
night and racing. Yeah, but now realizing that you
didn't even know what gas mapping like how to change that
throughout the race, that makes all the fucking difference if
totally. So, yeah, yeah, 'cause we've
stepped it up, like we keep stepping it up.
(06:26):
Like we put it on the the the force feedback more and it like
legit like today. Oh.
You raced already. No, no from last night like I
because I I try to get my workouts in everyday doing push
ups and different variations of them because I can't lift heavy
weights And when I did a bunch of pull ups, I was like whoa, my
(06:51):
left forearm is cooked and it was from the constant left turns
in I was. Doing NASCAR.
Yeah, And I was just like, Oh mygosh, like it.
It's still sore today, dude. And I'm just like, wow, that
that was such a cool game. That's such a cool game.
(07:11):
They had almost 100 miles worth of Nurburgring trying to podium
and I could not do it for the life of me last night so.
Yeah, they did any any night, dude.
Sometimes I have those bad days where I'm like racing his
computer and get my ass kicked. I'm like, fuck this game.
No, but anyways, I got all that going on.
My wife's terrified to tell me that the car there it's going to
(07:33):
cost a shit load of money, that I am the only working vehicle
right now and that and and that's by barely.
And even though the all these things are adding up, I'm not
stressed because I see these as opportunities.
I see these as as ways to look at it.
Not trying to be fake stoic guy,you know, like random YouTube
(07:57):
video like, oh, just look at problems as obstacles to
destroy. You know, it's, it's more of the
side of just looking at things like what what has brought the
best comfort to my life, and that is trying to love everybody
for who they are, not for what Ithink they should be.
Well, that too. I mean, because I truly man like
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I become more spiritually open, more spiritually in tune, I
become healthier. I, I don't seek conflict like I
used to. And when I'm around people, all
I think about is I want to make sure that they feel comfortable
(08:41):
being them, but that they are comfortable with who I am.
And from our actions and our tonality and the way that we
approach people, you can shift that mood real quick, even if
they hate you. God, I was listening to this
great book and I actually got touse it on those cold call day
(09:01):
because this guy was like, he goes, I had this one call with
this woman and she hung up on meright in the middle as I was
trying to explain something to her.
And I'm all that bitch just fucking hung up on me.
And I was just like, yeah. And he's like, he got mad.
So he's like, there's one of three things you can do. 1, you
can just accept it and move on to the next 1-2.
(09:22):
You can call him back and say, hey, sorry, we got disconnected
before we got that appointment set up on the schedule.
He goes or three, they'll yell at you and then hang up.
He goes, I've seen people get meetings just from that.
So this woman hung up on me. She's just being, she's just
having a bad day. I don't care.
It didn't hurt my feelings. I just saw as an opportunity to
(09:43):
be able to see if I could actually do that joke.
So I call her back. I said, hey, sorry about that.
We got disconnected. What day do you, what time do
you have on Thursdays, mornings or afternoons?
Better for you Click. And I'm like, all right, now I
can totally disqualify her, right?
But for me it was like, why I amso into this cold calling right
(10:05):
now and cold emailing is becauseit's not the person I'm mad at.
And I think that a lot of times we get focused on the sounds
that other people make. It's not necessarily the words
that they make. It's the tone that they use now,
which is so important to understand.
Very much so. And and I'm not saying it just
(10:26):
because I, I consider myself an expert on tone, but I don't, I
don't care about that. I am always learning and I think
of it, it's a good filter. So when somebody's talking to
me, if they're pissed off, I'm like, oh, they wish my family
was dead. Well better get my rifle because
that bitch is coming for me because I cold called her today
(10:46):
right? Most times we get so caught up
in it, yeah, oh, they hate me orthey're mad and it's like they
don't care. But think about online, ma'am.
I mean, we were just talking about that, you know, we, we're
going to make a pledge to no. Shit for 30 days?
Yeah, just kidding. Yeah, we're just going to start
(11:10):
posting really uncomfortable looking pictures of us in public
scratching our balls, right? And just like, just like a
video. And then we look at the camera
go, we're doing this for you. And this is like day 23, you
know, like. No shitter November.
No, Shitter November, you can't take your phone to the bath to
the shitter, because that's where we disappear in time and
(11:34):
we waste. Time all the time of like, how
often do we go and I don't. Enjoy the smell of shit.
The struggle of going to the gym.
How many of us struggle with like needing or wanting to go to
the gym? But yeah, I would wager that we
probably get our 30 minutes of scrolling in everyday.
Totally. But yeah, we don't take the 30
(11:55):
minutes to even at home, maybe do some push ups or sit ups or
you know. Read a book.
Yeah, or read a book or do anything.
That's one thing. We're always in this needing to
be multitasking, like the thing I told you about, that they're
starting to make TV shows Dumberwhere they narrate their
feelings, their actions, all this stuff basically of what's
(12:18):
going on. Because we are now in this world
of we watch a show while we're scrolling and so we're only half
paying attention. And so they're trying to make it
even Dumber for now because that's literally what our
attention span is. I'm like, how, how horrendous is
that? That the content that'll be
(12:39):
coming out now is just total pure shit.
You know what that means? Start torrenting all the old
stuff and get rid of your subscriptions.
That and Brondo's got electrolytes.
Plants crave electrolytes. Brondo has what electric?
What plants crave Rondo? What?
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So there's a movie called Idiocracy and this guy, he gets
frozen. He he does was at the cryogenic
freezing and it was in the military.
He was just like a nobody in theArmy.
And so they're like, hey, we're going to do this experiment.
You'll get all this extra pay, and you'll only be under for,
(13:19):
like, a few days or so. We're just going to test it out.
And he's like, yeah, OK. So he gets put in this cryogenic
tube and he wakes up like 1000 years into the future and he
wakes up in this building that is just falling apart and
there's trash piles everywhere and the world has become
(13:43):
retarded and everybody does stupid shit.
The most famous person in the world is on us.
This is way before social media like really took off like how it
is. So it's it's very prophetic
because it's like there's just videos of this guy getting
kicked in the balls in random places.
Like he's at the at the grocery store, he's getting food at a
(14:05):
counter. Like people just come up and
kick him in the balls. And he's like the most famous
guy in the world. And then the president is Terry
Crews and his name is El CamachoCamacho.
And he's a president. And he comes out with like a
vest, no sleeves on. And it's the American flag and
he's got long hair and nobody's listening to him in Congress
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like pulls out a a saw and just starts firing into the air.
And then the teleprompter startscoming up and he goes, shit, I
know shit's fucked up out there.And it's literally saying that
on the teleprompter. And I was just like, and what it
is this guy wakes up in this time and he doesn't have this
barcode tattoo. And so he's like, you know, oh,
(14:50):
hey, you're caught. You're a prisoner.
You have to come with us. And he's like, OK, And he's
like, yeah, but you have to takethis test.
So the test over there and it says if you have 5 apples and
you take two of them away, how many are left?
And he goes 3. And like, he tests as the
smartest man on the planet rightthere, right?
(15:10):
Because he can do basic math. He's that and so like he goes to
this machine, they stick his armin there to give him this tattoo
and the guy's like Jeremy there he goes, hey, I'm not sure that
I'm supposed to be here. And then he goes not sure, your
name is not sure. And he goes, no, that's not my
name and the tattoos it is it isbarcode.
(15:32):
So he scans it. His name is not.
It's so dude, he's in this future and he's like, they're
like, you're going to have to goto prison.
And they've got like one of those dog collar things like
keep the animal control uses. And this guy, he goes up to the
guy. He goes, hey, wait a minute,
Everybody's screwed up here. Them's actually supposed to get
out today. And the guy's like, what?
(15:52):
He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'mnot even supposed to be here.
He goes, well, you're in the wrong line.
Get over here. He processes them out.
He gets them out of prison that quickly and they track him down
because he's the smartest guy inthe world, not sure.
And he's going to figure out howto fix all of the plants in the
future because they're dying. And he goes out there and they
got these big sprinklers that said that he's got all this blue
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goo on his arm. And he goes, what the fuck is
that? He goes, is that Gatorade?
And they go, yeah, we put Brondoon the plants.
That's what Gatorade is of the future.
So when you said all that, it's because of Brondo.
That's why they're just told what to do.
And they go, Yep. I mean, you look at that movie
and it, it's hilarious, but it'svery it, it's depressing.
(16:38):
Yeah, I was. Like it sounds kind of like
right now. I mean, it's, you know, who
knew, you know? I know I struggled with that
math equation. If you guys can help us figure
out if you have 5 apples and youtake away 2 apples, how many
apples do you guys have left? Smoke on it and leave your
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answers below. Oh, dude, I, I know I went a
little off on there. I had to smoke something else to
counteract that, that one. But I'll tell you, man, it just
made me think like I've been getting healthier.
You know, all that shit I just talked about earlier, guys, not
only that, but then I had a phone bill drop in my lap that I
had to get that paid and I was like, Oh my gosh.
(17:20):
Then some auto pays went throughand I'm like, why is that on
auto pay? I'm not even there yet and I'm
like, you know, I'm getting thank you text messages.
Hey, Bridget, you're making youryour payment.
No, like that was supposed to befor the phone bill.
Like no. Shit, all that stuff.
And, and yeah, I didn't get upset.
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I didn't get upset, not one bit.Even all that happened.
I've had high blood pressure fora while now, been really worried
about it and I had to go to an Instacare because of my eye
bleed going blind in that eye. And now I'm just like, I learned
that my blood pressure has gone way down and I had accidentally
(18:01):
stopped taking my blood pressuremedication because I ran out of
it And all I kept thinking, oh, I got to get a doctor's
appointment. When the fuck am I going to have
time for a doctor's appointment?And I'm like, fuck that shit.
I got to get this shit down. I got to get to work.
I got to do all these things andit forced me to stop and slow
down. And I looked at everything as a
blessing in that way, which has made me think like my, my
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purpose here is just to be able to befriend as many people as
possible, not for the fact that maybe I can get a sale out of
them. Or maybe, you know, I can feel
important. It's to do what I feel is, is,
is my, is my, is what I've been driven by.
You know, I, I, I try to live a very Christ like life and I, I
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am in, I'm not perfect and I'm not trying to be and I've got
my, my sins and etcetera, etcetera.
But for me, it's I just need to be good to people instead of
thinking about that. And because I've been doing
that, man, I just feel healthier, like legit healthier.
I'm I'm my weight is down because I don't eat with my
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emotions now. Like now I eat for sustenance
and I know that people have a hard time with eating for
emotions because you get that pleasure from that crunch, that
sweet, that salty, whatever. And if fuck my life up, dude,
like all of eating my emotions for years.
Like I wasn't super heavy beforewe started this.
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I was. At least I felt like I was.
Yeah, but I was heavy and. That's just because you're
sitting next to Skeletor, so. You know, no dude, I mean I was
way overweight. I mean, I have 40 lbs lighter
than when we first started the show.
I know it's been quite impressive, like the change, and
I'm sure you feel a whole ton different too, because you used
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to have a ton of diabetic neuropathy in your feet.
Yeah, that's not as bad. Now at night time, it's cold and
I got to wear these wool socks to keep the blood flowing.
But no, dude like it. It really is the thing that's
changed the most in me. Like, you know, people could
say, Oh yeah, well, you know, you were taking testosterone.
I've been off of that for almosttwo months now.
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And yeah, my drive to go to the gym isn't as high.
But when I do go, I put in a full good workout.
You know, am I happy to be there?
Not like I was when I was on testosterone.
When I was on testosterone, likea good amount of it.
I was like, and then then, you know, I go do my thing and I'm
like, yeah, just throw the whip.But now I'm just like, you know,
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I'm seeing it like this keeps you moving.
This keeps you pain free and youneed to push yourself.
You know, you know, we'll we'll use that when we need to, but
right now we don't need to. Let's let's try and build this
up before we had that. I just feel very thankful when I
go to the gym because I know I'mnot as strong as I could be, but
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I'm stronger than I was. And it's just like a fantastic
feeling to do the motions and golike, yeah, my muscles are
strong, that's all that matters.Like I don't have to be stronger
than I need to be. Yes, I can get stronger and I
will, but I'm also OK with the stage I'm at, which has been
kind of nice to. Get which you should be, Yeah,
(21:14):
you really should be Brandon. I mean, you're working hard and
but you know. I'm pretty sure everyone has
some form of body dysmorphia where we look in the mirror when
we. Go oh.
Man, I wish this was different in you know, Anyway.
Right, I wish my ass wasn't so hairy or something like that,
right? Right, yeah, I wish I didn't
have like 4 nipples. I just, yeah.
(21:35):
That sucks dude, I didn't know you had four nipples.
I'm so, yeah. But I know you mean it's, it's
really hard. We're hard on ourselves because
and you know, I don't want to betrite and say to society or
advertising. We do because you know what,
when I'm happy, I don't give a fuck about what anybody thinks
(21:58):
about what I'm wearing. Yeah, it doesn't matter because
I think about like, you know, stories of the Bible, like John
the Baptist. That guy was a grungy looking
motherfucker. You know, I was eating locust
and honey. You probably grew.
Up did. You have a lot of like name
brands growing up. Oh, yeah.
Jordash, LA gear. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(22:20):
Lee brands. Oh.
Yeah, yeah. Like that.
Yeah, I'm like lucky. Brands.
I had DI Walmart brands, you know.
No, no, I knew of them. I didn't have them.
I didn't. Never.
Have them either. No, we went to Payless to get
shoes right? I, I got whatever weird name on
there and then whatever they were trying to copy from like
(22:42):
Reebok. Remember the Pump?
Yeah. I thought if I had those shoes
when I was a kid I could jump higher.
My parents got me these ones andlegit, this is all they did.
And I want to know like, what grumpy boomer dad did it.
They're like, Reeboks is killingus.
We're trying to win. And he's like, guys over there,
(23:03):
He's got a cigarette always in his, in his mouth.
And he goes hand that to me. He puts it in the ashtray, pulls
out a drill, the foam bottom of the shoe.
He drills three holes all the way through and he goes there.
Now they jump higher. And that's what they told
people. And legit, when I was a kid, I'm
this stupid kid going, oh, yeah,that makes me jump higher.
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And I would jump and I would believe it.
And that's seriously how simple it is to believe you can be
happy. Like I really am happy.
I have a lot to be upset about, but you have a lot.
To be on though, what are your thoughts on because that's when
I had realized in my depressive moments was like my thoughts
(23:48):
changed and when my thoughts changed, my feelings changed and
it was this whole realization oflike holy shit, my thoughts
control my feelings. Well, if I'm depressed or
anxious or whatever, what am I thinking?
That's. Literally what's?
Controlling it. What am I thinking that's good?
That's. It, that's it.
It's just what am I thinking? OK, well, what makes me happy?
(24:10):
What in this moment is good? What can I find that is not shit
right now? But even if it is shit, you know
it was like that book I was telling you about Ryan
Holiday's. Shut my mouth, please.
I'm sorry. Oh.
You're talking about shit, so OK, different title, all right?
I was totally taken off with garden.
I'm like, wait, what? Like I wasn't, I wasn't
(24:31):
frustrated. I was like, you just write.
What sound did you make there? I don't know what you said.
I was like, what the fuck? Then you said it after and I'm
like, OK, now it'll make sense now.
This book called The Obstacles Way, written by Ryan, Ryan
Holiday, and I was bringing up Stoicism earlier and this book
just talks about not necessarilythat the problems in your life
are not hard. The problems in your life are
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not difficult. What it is is that the problems
will continuously pop up in yourlife.
It's how you face those and how you continue to instill into
your mind to not breakdown, not freak out, not look at this is
it? But to go out and go and no, I'm
(25:14):
not going to give up. And this is just what's
happening now. Like you talked about this
general in the in Gettysburg andhe was looking through with his
eyeglass. Like I don't know the exact
general, but he he was looking through with his eyeglass and
this cannonball comes ripping apart from the countryside, hits
(25:34):
his horse beside him, alliterates the horse.
He didn't even flinch and it wasright beside him and he didn't
even flinch because he knew where he was going and he wasn't
going to let anything distract him.
And I've been thinking about that book a lot lately and I'm
like, I need to revisit it because it it doesn't talk about
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how you just got to be a stone faced motherfucker all the time,
right? Typical people think of
stoicism. They're going to think about
Jocko willing, which, yes, Jockois very stoic, but he's also
very about his purpose. He's a lot like you, Brandon,
right? Give me regiment, give me a lot.
Of weed. No, I don't think he does, but,
well, maybe he does now. But you got all these different
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things to do and you prefer that.
You prefer. Like if I'm doing things, it's
at this time and I'm going to get it done because I want to
accomplish things, because accomplishing things feels good.
It's not because you have to do it.
It just feels good. Yeah, so it's turning every and
I've been thinking about that too, because at work, you know,
I got mad love for my team. Jacob, Amanda, Adam, Rocco.
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Like these guys are cool. But I used to think like when
they would bitch and complain about like some of them would
complain about like fucking makethese calls is bullshit.
And I'm like, yeah, fucking justdo it.
And I learned that I'm like, yeah, but you know how I can
influence that? By being excited to do it and
congratulating them when I hear them get off of a call instead
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of hiding somewhere. Yeah.
You know. That's what I really enjoyed.
One of the few things my fast did right was the camaraderie of
like teams and and the excitement of that sale, whether
you closed it or not. Like it was joking, laughing
about the call, about the way itwent down, about the lady
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hanging up on you or whatever person flipped out on you and
what they said. You know, it was just having fun
with it instead of always being so serious with it.
Life doesn't always have to be so serious.
No, and that's hard, dude. It's hard because like I'm
letting go of that a lot more. Like I, you know, is it, am I
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out of the woods? I don't even look at it that way
anymore. I'm like, well, this is the
opportunity that's in front of me.
What can I do and how can I helpother people?
Because man, I'll tell you what,these last three years of, of
straight poverty, I'm grateful for them.
I really am. I think that our relationship
has become better and our podcasts got better, and we're
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not focused on like, making money from this and turning it
to our jobs. We're just like, you know what?
Whatever comes, comes. And I think it's because of
those things that opportunities start to show themselves.
And I see everything that happened this last week as a
real easy opportunity to just kind of lay down and say, well,
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you know, I can't see out of my eyes.
My wife's car is destroyed. My car is barely hanging in
there. And yet I'm like, well, how can
I turn this into a win? I know what I can do.
I'll just tell my boss I'm coming in a little bit later
because I got to take my kids toschool.
OK, What? How is that now difficult?
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And that means that I need to bemore focused at work to make
sure that I get everything done,not just what's expected of me.
Fucking fucking people's kids, but not everything that's
expected of me. It's what what I've what I've
promised I will do, and that's the thing that I want to look
at. But you know what I mean?
It's just like I don't look at at work now as fuck Mondays.
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I look at it going, I'm gratefulto be here, even if I didn't
want to get up that morning, even if I wanted the comfort of
the warm bed. And I think about it and I'm
like, man, you know, like when Iwas not doing things in a
structured way, I think I would have been a lot happier.
But when I really started to letgo of, I need to find what's
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different between us to make that a point of contention so
that I could argue my point. It doesn't matter anymore.
It really doesn't matter. And maybe it's age.
A lot of people say it's age like you start getting closer to
50 and you just start letting goof shit.
You just like fucking whatever. And you know, either goes one
way or the other. Either you get 50 and you flip
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out. You you cheat on your wife, you
get a fast car, you run up a bunch of debt.
And then, you know, you're on a local news channel after you're
being released from prison afterthree years because you did some
extortion shit. And you're like, you know what?
I really learned a lot in there.Just like, you know, I just kind
of let go of everything and juststop thinking so fucking
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seriously about everything. Like I have to do this.
I have to do that instead of I get to do this, I get to do
that. And, and I've been doing that.
And it's because of that my, my body is changing.
My blood pressure has gone down to normal.
My sight is returning. You know, was there a negative
that went into it? I could have looked at it.
Oh, shit, they're going to put needles in my eyes instead of
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thinking, hey, there's a medicine in that needle that's
going to make my eye better. Cool.
You know, huge difference, huge difference.
And I wasn't scared. I wasn't nervous.
I, I, I mean, the girl there wasmore nervous for me, the MA.
And she's like you, you know, they're going to put needles in
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your eye. And I'm like, I know, I know,
right? Do I have to pay extra for that
or does that come installed? And she just started laughing.
And she goes, I'm so glad you'rebeing so good about it.
And I'm like, well, what's the alternative?
And that's. Fuck out and then they come hold
you down with like 6 people and you know.
That's why I'm like I'm I. I relish the present time and I
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look forward to the future. I changed my mentality after our
talk about time, but the one thing I I won't do is reflect on
the past that I can't change. Yeah, 'cause there's, you can
never change the past. It's good to learn from it to go
like to understand maybe why we've done things.
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It's kind of like in the momentswhere you know, you in our
stupid moments where we snap at our kids or something like shit,
hey, I'm sorry this came from, you know, this and that wasn't
OK. Don't know why I did that.
Like, but having that understanding, yeah, it might be
in that moment or really soon after, but it's not years or
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decades later going, oh, man, I'm beating myself up for this.
Well, why? What are you going to gain from
from that? What do you even gain from?
Like, yes, sometimes there's great times to go live in the
past. You know, I watch videos from my
childhood, but I'm not going andjust sitting and thinking about
it continuously where I'm livingin the past.
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Then, you know, instead of beingpresent or anxiety where we
think of all of these millions of potential futures where 99%
of them never happen, but our mind just likes to run rampant
with whatever idea that pops into it of like, oh shit, this
could happen and this and this and this.
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And you're like, Oh no, it's toomuch.
Yeah, it's kind of like the definition.
I mean, this my own definition. Maybe it is the definition of
anxiety, but anxiety is the fearof the unforetold future, and
that's pretty much what it is. It's just, you're just terrified
of what could be. And the more that I stop letting
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go of the when I started to let go of the past is when I was
able to be present, which is crazy, right?
And and that actually segues perfect into a story that we
talked about, which I think fitsway better in this context.
And, and I'll keep it as secularas possible, but the, my
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mother-in-law woke me up in the middle of the night.
We were talking about that. And she came to me with complete
fear in her eyes. And she says there's an evil
spirit in my room and I need youto get it out.
And I didn't question her. You know, I, I feel very
spiritual and very sensitive to that side too.
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Not necessarily like, you know, talking to dead people.
And when we brought Amber on, mylife changed after that
completely. I, I changed dramatically.
I became more conscientious of my actions.
I, I had a hard time talking to her after that because we're
good friends, but I had a hard time calling her because every
time she kind of like she would be able to just tell me what was
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up. She she knew she's like, I, I
understand and I don't want to tell you this and I'm so sorry
I'm telling you this, but all the shit you're going through
right now, you need to partner with your wife instead of both
of you trying to take it on the loan because she's going to be
an obstacle in your way and you're going to be an obstacle
in her way. And I was like and she was every
time talking to her. It's like talking to an Oracle
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and but she's. Saying your mother-in-law, she's
always, she's always been followed or for a long time by
evil. By evil spirits.
Like literally when she when I went down in that room it was
cold. The whole house was fine.
Dude that room was ice cold and the hair on my body just stood
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up and even like on my head likeI have no hair but I could feel
every follicle just with with this feeling of and I used to
think of it as fear but now I think of it as evil.
When I feel fear, I feel evil and it's, it's trying to get me
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to yield to it in a way of just giving and running away,
whatever. And I just, you know, I, I
prayed there. I didn't have any like special
movements I was going to do or anything like that.
And, and I only thought of the old gospels because the, you
know, Christ, whenever he would get rid of them of demons or
anything like that, they would say that he wasn't like doing
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this big thing. And there was, you know,
lightning and he pulled lightning.
Oh, wait a minute. That's that's Thor anyways, but
you know what I mean. He was, he was just said get
out. And they were like, where can we
go? And he goes, can we go in those
swine? Yeah, Yeah, you can go into
those filthy animals. Go ahead.
It wasn't anger, right? And I think of problems in our
life like people who do us wrong.
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These demons are the wrongs of others that have been done unto
us and that we still hold that. And my mother-in-law has
struggled with her, with a family member her entire life.
And when I talked to her, you know, I went in there.
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I mean, I totally believe it wasthere.
I felt like a giant mean what? Like if you've ever seen the
movie 300 and there's the the wolf in the cold, the first
story about the boy fighting thewolf, that giant black wolf with
the red teeth and the red eyes. That's what I felt like was in
the room and immediately felt fear cold.
And I just, I knew I was OK because I wasn't going to let
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fear keep me from figuring out what was in there.
It was in a picture. And for those of you know, I
mean, that energy can house itself in this stuff, just like
you're talking about in that museum.
Just being around that. Like these are not things that
should be reflected on. They should be destroyed.
It should be destroyed. That's pure evil was going on
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there. It doesn't remind us of what
could be. Yeah.
But at the same time it's, it's pure evil.
And I, I think it serves a good and a bad purpose.
And that's why I'm not like tearit down.
But it definitely dude. Like I think about all those
unforgiving things that we did. And that's what came to my mind
when I talked to her. She was like 2 days later.
She was like, it's it's not, it's not leaving.
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I said, well, let me ask you something.
I said you follow the, the commandments that you've, you
say you do. And she goes, yeah.
And I said, well, have you forgiven so?
And so she goes, well, I can't do that.
And I'm like, then that's why it's here.
And there's nothing you can do to get rid of it because you're
holding it. It's inside you.
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It's a feeling she is feeling this darkness, but a feeling is
dictated by our thoughts. So she's feeling horrendous.
Well, what is she thinking about?
What is her thoughts right now? What is her focus been on this
last hour, you know, and how many of us drag her?
Because when my thoughts got thedarkest were my darkest moments.
I was the moments I wanted to kill myself.
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Those were the moments I didn't want to be her.
Those are the moments I questioned my value and my
purpose and my worth. Like those are the moments where
you see yourself as such a smallworthless like, and I can
imagine that whatever she's feeling in that moment, whatever
her thoughts are, have been, he said.
If she's been under this hatred or this whatever for her entire.
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Life unforgiveness. Well, I mean, you know, and The
thing is, I mean, we could listen to the story.
I mean, I know the whole story and we could say, yeah, that's
fucking horrible. Like that's horrendous to go
through all that one. And then this person still
expects you to love them unconditionally.
And which is funny because I seea lot of these, what are they
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called, buffet Christians or buffet Mormons or whatever,
where they like to pick the things that make them look the
best. And it's not because of egotism,
it's because of not fitting in. And when you don't fit in,
you're an outlier, which means you, you can't make friends,
right? And that that causes it's not
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intentional. We, we do it all the time as
people. I don't see it in the cannabis
community. I mean, you know, only thing to
be able to have sacrament with another person who uses cannabis
is to offer cannabis saying, Hey, do you want it?
I mean how often is it you can make a friend to anywhere?
Do you feel like a lot of religious people are, they don't
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really connect because they are fearful or shameful of showing
their true self because they judge themselves so much that
even like I can't show that to you or my neighbor or this
person, my friend, whatever, my sibling, because they'll judge
me. They'll treat me different,
whatever it is, because obviously it's not OK what I'm
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doing. When really half of the sins
that people do are just. Normal everyday human shit.
They're not out hurting anyone, they're not doing anything.
It's just. A sin and.
Well, and. Sometimes they do, and that's
OK. It should be OK.
It does happen all the time. People hurt humans continuously.
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All the time. And, and what, what can we do
about it? We can't do anything about that.
We stand up for it when we see it.
Yeah, what? That's what I'm saying like when
when something like that is happening, but often, often when
bad things start happening to people that consider themselves
good is that they are not livingup to their potential.
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And what I mean by that is not necessarily like societal
potential or religious potential, but for individual
spiritual potential. And that is when we think about
ourselves constantly. And that's why they do that.
I think that you're exactly right that they do that because
they are fearful in a way. And the reason why they're
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fearful is that they're not genuine with their promise.
If they said I'm going to do these things then they pick and
choose. Well I'll love God, but my
neighbor's kind of a cunt. Fuck that bitch.
But it's not doing it because they want to, because they
understand the core thing of it.It's more of like, well, I'm
doing this checklist because this is what this book told me.
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But it's not like they skip so much to the first ones.
It's a person, a person convinced them.
A person said, hey, look, this is making me happy.
This is where MLM's come from. Somebody probably got like this
amazing experience with essential oils and she's like,
oh, my goodness, if I made a bath bomb in my garage and Da da
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Nuskin is born, right? And that's what it turns out to
be. But it, it starts out with
something good and pure. It's like, yeah, I could heal
people with this. I could make their lives better.
And then when they start thinking about me, me, me, I, I,
I then it, it starts getting clouded.
And then, you know, common sensestarts to leave.
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And then, you know, it's all about me.
But when we think about we, we really start to be able to kind
of own it together. Like if somebody fucks up, oh,
well, if somebody says somethingthat was kind of hurtful, I
would now rather go, that's not cool.
Instead of what you fucking fight because you said words and
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sounds. Oh, I'm going to take your life
for words and sounds and it's like what I and and I'm very
well trained on doing that. Like I know what I'm doing
there. People have known me for years.
They know I know how to handle myself because I've been
learning from A and putting it into practice.
But I don't even think about that anymore.
I think, I mean, I carry a gun because something could happen
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and I'd rather feel a little bitsafer.
Am I ever going to use it? Probably not.
I hope to God not, but you know,it's there for it.
But the idea isn't to shoot somebody, it's just to protect
others and myself. And all I think about now is
like how I can talk somebody into a place where they feel
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comfortable enough to be able tojust let that shit go.
And so full circle, I told my mother-in-law, I'm like, look,
you forgive. And then if those spirits come
back, you are to politely ask them to leave because they're
not welcome here. Don't do it with anger.
Halloween dude. I'm getting ready because my
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wife's like I'm going with our youngest.
Our youngest is the last to do trick or treating.
He's 10. All the other ones like my other
kids like Arya and Nick. There was this house in our
neighborhood and they do a full on haunted house.
Oh yeah. Every year and Arya won best
actor. She looked like the nun I had
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like creepy nun from the movies,white face and red lips and then
dark eyes. And she would walk around like
this. And then she just goes, she does
a back handstand and then startscrawling at him.
And the kids went running away. And this one kid goes, I peed
myself. I peed myself.
Oh. That's hilarious.
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But dude, like, I'm there, I'm getting ready.
I've got this bowl of diabetes in front of me and I'm like,
I'll, I'll give small amounts ofdiabetes to kids today.
We'll do it as a collective. Yeah, we'll, we'll push type to.
America, here we go. Yeah.
Fuck yeah. Like like what do the kids?
Get diabetic, they're gonna be. The funny thing is you start to
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see people like these kids are complaining at my door.
They're like, why did you get a potato?
I got a potato too. And I'm like, that's awesome.
That's hilarious. Go bake it.
I would wrap it in tin foil. That would be better.
You know, it just had instructions.
But anyways, I'm standing there at the door and I'm waiting for
kids to come. Not very many came this year and
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my mother-in-law came up and shegoes, hey, how you doing?
I said good. And she goes, hey, I just want
you to know that that worked. I said I don't know what you're
talking about. And she goes, well, it happened
2 weeks ago in about 3 weeks by seeing this.
And she says, well, they came back and I was getting really
upset. And then I said, and she's like
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in that thought of what you said.
And so I kindly asked them to leave and they laughed and they
haven't been back in 2 days. And I said cool.
I said now forgive and just be done with it.
I, I hold no ill feelings towards anybody anymore, even if
they've done something horrible to me.
I really don't. And I, I, I feel because I have
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let that go Brandon, that even if somebody does something
fucking horrible, even if they hurt somebody I love, I'll be
like, you know what? They just had shit going on.
And I'm glad I wasn't there because I'd probably lose my
shit. But that's OK.
I don't believe that being a Christian or, or following some
type of God, if, if Christianityisn't your thing for me, it's
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spoken to me. Very true.
But the idea that I have to walkaround as this perfect person,
there's just always doing all the right things.
And I go to the special castle and and do the seances and, you
know, I drink the cup and I put the wafer in my.
Yeah. I do that one all right.
I wear fancy jewelry to show everybody that I believe that's
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only for me. And it doesn't reside in
clothes, nor stone or book or wood.
It's in me and that goes with me.
And when I do that, I feel good because all I'm thinking is
like, then they nailed him to a cross.
They spat on him, They humiliated him.
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And he still is just like, you know what?
They don't know what they're doing.
And I never really got that until just this week.
And I'm just like, yeah, I can't.
If I allow that anger or hatred to come in, then what I do, I
allow that opportunity to connect with another human being
to keep our relationship going. Shit, we have a lot of different
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views, but we have never let that get in the way of our
friendship. Why?
Because it has nothing to do with us.
Those are topics. That's like saying, oh, I like
chocolate ice cream. And I'm like.
Vanilla, like vanilla, you're not psych.
Well fuck you guys. Like why does it even matter?
We'll mix them together. You can't do that.
It doesn't even matter. And you know why?
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Because it all turns into poo. And so it's just like, and
that's the thing, like literallythat that's the message out of
that one. Everything turns out to poo.
So TuneIn next week. Oh, real quick, while we're
talking about poo, let's talk about pee and some of the best
pee that you can get on the market, Brandon.
Is synthetics 5 in case you're into like it's.
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Disappearing. It's blinking.
If you're into like, peeing in it or drinking it or, you know,
pouring on your friend. It's interdimensional.
We're using it to pass a test synthetic.
Spy is, is grist. It's the best P ever, right?
I mean, and Brandon, how much does it cost?
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Well, we get a percentage off. What's it 20%?
No, I think we get 25% off for the audience.
It gets a good amount in there maybe.
All right, so not only that, butit's worth how much it could be
worth 50,000 A? 100,200 thousand God, I mean, if
you're making more than that, you probably don't care because
you're running your own thing atthat point, so.
(48:46):
Yeah, but just, you know, you should not have to be afraid of
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Yeah, TuneIn, next week.
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People. Cannabis companies.
Celebrities. And your mom?
Welcome to the sesh. Hey guys, guess what?
We just had an hour conversationand not a single second of it
(00:20):
was recorded. Oh my God, that's hilarious.
I remember what we talked about.I do too.
But let's take it from the top. But.
But I was just kind of like, Oh my God, I cannot believe that.
Because when you hopped on and you said, hey, it's recording.
So that way it gave me a warningit was not being recorded.
(00:41):
Yeah, warned me is saying that this this episode can be
recorded and I'm like, OK. Damn it.
So I touched it. That's funny as shit, dude.
That's terrible. Well, welcome to the sesh,
everybody. You know today we actually know
exactly what we want to talk about.
So this will actually flow much better.
I had to switch to Brandon cheese because this this swing
(01:04):
wing cut of sour diesel got me kind of stupefied.
So this one's kind of like bringing me back.
It's. Wondering if I change it up, but
if so I'd have to go find another flower right now.
You can go find another flower. Don't worry about it because I
don't even have enough for one full good bowl.
I do maybe well. Go ahead and go 'cause I'll
(01:24):
start it out a second. Yeah, yeah.
So here's what we were talking about at first.
I've been going through some shit lately, a lot of shit.
Last week, Sunday, well, a couple weeks ago on a Sunday,
'cause this is out on the 6th, Istarted getting these weird
black spots in my vision and I didn't know what it was and then
(01:47):
they kept coming and it wouldn'tgo away.
I called my eye doctor and they go, Oh yeah, that can happen.
It's like these little floaters kind of happens with the age and
you're diabetic. So yeah, it could have happened.
Anyways, that accumulated to this moment where I could have
gone blind. I I was pretty much blind in my
right eye. There was so much blood in there
(02:07):
that I couldn't see out of my cornea and then my left eye when
I'd seen the eye doctor and toldme like, hey, you're going to be
screwed up here if we don't get that checked out soon, so.
Nuts. Is it still pretty red on that
one? That's not too bad.
It's not too bad at all. It was pretty wicked.
Yeah. The.
Most bloodshot looking eye I have ever seen.
(02:30):
Yeah, it was like straight demoneye.
And yeah, it ended up like I ended up going into an eye
surgeon on Monday afternoon. And when I got there, they're
like, yeah, we're going to have to do a procedure right here.
And that included putting these amazing drops that makes you
feel like you had edibles because it dries out your eyes.
(02:53):
It feels like it, but it's numbing it because what they did
next was, as they said, it goes,all right, I need you to look up
and to the left for my left eye,up and to the right.
And I do that. And then he inserts a needle
underneath my eyeball into theirinjecting novocaine.
Does it have both of them comes back?
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And that's the crazy thing, dude, with those drops, I didn't
feel shit. How?
I just, I felt like somebody touched my eyeball.
I've had no I probably had novocaine for a surgery.
Do you feel loopy? Like how does that?
I just don't feel anything. So the there it it was just.
Have them with needles in your eye.
Well, it made me think about like, if you really get your eye
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injured, you're not going to feel like a ton of pain.
You will feel pain, but it's more of the pressure cause the
nerve, optic nerve inside that feels the pressure.
And that's the only thing that changed for me.
And I was like, whoa, that's feeling kind of weird.
My eyes were like heavy. But yeah, they just added liquid
into something that doesn't require any extra liquid.
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So it's like, and then he came back in when it was all numb and
he put this medicine in there and it pretty much blinded me
for about good 40 minutes. And I called Brandon and I'm
talking and I and I and I started driving after a little
while and that probably wasn't agood idea, but I didn't, I
needed to get home. Because as I got out of the
(04:20):
doctor's office and I'm sitting in the car blind thinking, I
don't want to sit in the waitingroom at this ophthalmologist
with all these old people aroundme that are looking at me while
I'm talking on the phone saying fuck this and shit in hell,
right. So I was just trying to be
courteous and my wife calls me. She's talking to me on the
phone. And as we're talking on the
phone, she's like, smoke's coming out of the engine.
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And I said, is it white or is itdark?
And she goes, it's white. And I said, your radiator is
gone. You need to pull over and get
out of the car. And she's like, is it going to
blow up? I'm like, just pull over and
park it and turn it off. She's like, what are we going to
do? And I'm like, we'll figure it
out. We find out that our, our little
insurance thing that we had extra that they made us get for
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it only covers the radiator and doesn't cover the rest.
So now I'm looking at almost $2000 in a bill to get my wife's
car back. We got my car and the power
steering is going out on that one.
I can't see throughout this whole week.
One of the busiest raining weeksof my in my company.
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It's like boot camp for sales and it's hardcore and was
awesome, but. You had to be at home the whole
week instead because yeah. And I don't like, I don't like
that I didn't like it because itwas so much harder for me to
focus on doing my job because I don't have an office set up,
which made me think about I needto set a place up in my house as
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an office when I work from home so I can get that same, you
know, job done. But anyways, it was really rough
because my eyes hurt every day. I was seeing double most of the
time. And.
And yet somehow you beat me in Gran Turismo.
He's the. Best drunk driver ever.
No, no, no. Remember the first time we'd
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raced? I was like you kicked my ass all
night and I was trying so hard and it was I was having a shitty
night and racing. Yeah, but now realizing that you
didn't even know what gas mapping like how to change that
throughout the race, that makes all the fucking difference if
totally. So, yeah, yeah, 'cause we've
stepped it up, like we keep stepping it up.
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Like we put it on the the the force feedback more and it like
legit like today. Oh.
You raced already. No, no from last night like I
because I I try to get my workouts in everyday doing push
ups and different variations of them because I can't lift heavy
weights And when I did a bunch of pull ups, I was like whoa, my
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left forearm is cooked and it was from the constant left turns
in I was. Doing NASCAR.
Yeah, And I was just like, Oh mygosh, like it.
It's still sore today, dude. And I'm just like, wow, that
that was such a cool game. That's such a cool game.
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They had almost 100 miles worth of Nurburgring trying to podium
and I could not do it for the life of me last night so.
Yeah, they did any any night, dude.
Sometimes I have those bad days where I'm like racing his
computer and get my ass kicked. I'm like, fuck this game.
No, but anyways, I got all that going on.
My wife's terrified to tell me that the car there it's going to
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cost a shit load of money, that I am the only working vehicle
right now and that and and that's by barely.
And even though the all these things are adding up, I'm not
stressed because I see these as opportunities.
I see these as as ways to look at it.
Not trying to be fake stoic guy,you know, like random YouTube
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video like, oh, just look at problems as obstacles to
destroy. You know, it's, it's more of the
side of just looking at things like what what has brought the
best comfort to my life, and that is trying to love everybody
for who they are, not for what Ithink they should be.
Well, that too. I mean, because I truly man like
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I become more spiritually open, more spiritually in tune, I
become healthier. I, I don't seek conflict like I
used to. And when I'm around people, all
I think about is I want to make sure that they feel comfortable
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being them, but that they are comfortable with who I am.
And from our actions and our tonality and the way that we
approach people, you can shift that mood real quick, even if
they hate you. God, I was listening to this
great book and I actually got touse it on those cold call day
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because this guy was like, he goes, I had this one call with
this woman and she hung up on meright in the middle as I was
trying to explain something to her.
And I'm all that bitch just fucking hung up on me.
And I was just like, yeah. And he's like, he got mad.
So he's like, there's one of three things you can do. 1, you
can just accept it and move on to the next 1-2.
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You can call him back and say, hey, sorry, we got disconnected
before we got that appointment set up on the schedule.
He goes or three, they'll yell at you and then hang up.
He goes, I've seen people get meetings just from that.
So this woman hung up on me. She's just being, she's just
having a bad day. I don't care.
It didn't hurt my feelings. I just saw as an opportunity to
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be able to see if I could actually do that joke.
So I call her back. I said, hey, sorry about that.
We got disconnected. What day do you, what time do
you have on Thursdays, mornings or afternoons?
Better for you Click. And I'm like, all right, now I
can totally disqualify her, right?
But for me it was like, why I amso into this cold calling right
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now and cold emailing is becauseit's not the person I'm mad at.
And I think that a lot of times we get focused on the sounds
that other people make. It's not necessarily the words
that they make. It's the tone that they use now,
which is so important to understand.
Very much so. And and I'm not saying it just
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because I, I consider myself an expert on tone, but I don't, I
don't care about that. I am always learning and I think
of it, it's a good filter. So when somebody's talking to
me, if they're pissed off, I'm like, oh, they wish my family
was dead. Well better get my rifle because
that bitch is coming for me because I cold called her today
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right? Most times we get so caught up
in it, yeah, oh, they hate me orthey're mad and it's like they
don't care. But think about online, ma'am.
I mean, we were just talking about that, you know, we, we're
going to make a pledge to no. Shit for 30 days?
Yeah, just kidding. Yeah, we're just going to start
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posting really uncomfortable looking pictures of us in public
scratching our balls, right? And just like, just like a
video. And then we look at the camera
go, we're doing this for you. And this is like day 23, you
know, like. No shitter November.
No, Shitter November, you can't take your phone to the bath to
the shitter, because that's where we disappear in time and
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we waste. Time all the time of like, how
often do we go and I don't. Enjoy the smell of shit.
The struggle of going to the gym.
How many of us struggle with like needing or wanting to go to
the gym? But yeah, I would wager that we
probably get our 30 minutes of scrolling in everyday.
Totally. But yeah, we don't take the 30
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minutes to even at home, maybe do some push ups or sit ups or
you know. Read a book.
Yeah, or read a book or do anything.
That's one thing. We're always in this needing to
be multitasking, like the thing I told you about, that they're
starting to make TV shows Dumberwhere they narrate their
feelings, their actions, all this stuff basically of what's
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going on. Because we are now in this world
of we watch a show while we're scrolling and so we're only half
paying attention. And so they're trying to make it
even Dumber for now because that's literally what our
attention span is. I'm like, how, how horrendous is
that? That the content that'll be
(12:39):
coming out now is just total pure shit.
You know what that means? Start torrenting all the old
stuff and get rid of your subscriptions.
That and Brondo's got electrolytes.
Plants crave electrolytes. Brondo has what electric?
What plants crave Rondo? What?
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So there's a movie called Idiocracy and this guy, he gets
frozen. He he does was at the cryogenic
freezing and it was in the military.
He was just like a nobody in theArmy.
And so they're like, hey, we're going to do this experiment.
You'll get all this extra pay, and you'll only be under for,
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like, a few days or so. We're just going to test it out.
And he's like, yeah, OK. So he gets put in this cryogenic
tube and he wakes up like 1000 years into the future and he
wakes up in this building that is just falling apart and
there's trash piles everywhere and the world has become
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retarded and everybody does stupid shit.
The most famous person in the world is on us.
This is way before social media like really took off like how it
is. So it's it's very prophetic
because it's like there's just videos of this guy getting
kicked in the balls in random places.
Like he's at the at the grocery store, he's getting food at a
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counter. Like people just come up and
kick him in the balls. And he's like the most famous
guy in the world. And then the president is Terry
Crews and his name is El CamachoCamacho.
And he's a president. And he comes out with like a
vest, no sleeves on. And it's the American flag and
he's got long hair and nobody's listening to him in Congress
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like pulls out a a saw and just starts firing into the air.
And then the teleprompter startscoming up and he goes, shit, I
know shit's fucked up out there.And it's literally saying that
on the teleprompter. And I was just like, and what it
is this guy wakes up in this time and he doesn't have this
barcode tattoo. And so he's like, you know, oh,
(14:50):
hey, you're caught. You're a prisoner.
You have to come with us. And he's like, OK, And he's
like, yeah, but you have to takethis test.
So the test over there and it says if you have 5 apples and
you take two of them away, how many are left?
And he goes 3. And like, he tests as the
smartest man on the planet rightthere, right?
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Because he can do basic math. He's that and so like he goes to
this machine, they stick his armin there to give him this tattoo
and the guy's like Jeremy there he goes, hey, I'm not sure that
I'm supposed to be here. And then he goes not sure, your
name is not sure. And he goes, no, that's not my
name and the tattoos it is it isbarcode.
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So he scans it. His name is not.
It's so dude, he's in this future and he's like, they're
like, you're going to have to goto prison.
And they've got like one of those dog collar things like
keep the animal control uses. And this guy, he goes up to the
guy. He goes, hey, wait a minute,
Everybody's screwed up here. Them's actually supposed to get
out today. And the guy's like, what?
(15:52):
He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'mnot even supposed to be here.
He goes, well, you're in the wrong line.
Get over here. He processes them out.
He gets them out of prison that quickly and they track him down
because he's the smartest guy inthe world, not sure.
And he's going to figure out howto fix all of the plants in the
future because they're dying. And he goes out there and they
got these big sprinklers that said that he's got all this blue
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goo on his arm. And he goes, what the fuck is
that? He goes, is that Gatorade?
And they go, yeah, we put Brondoon the plants.
That's what Gatorade is of the future.
So when you said all that, it's because of Brondo.
That's why they're just told what to do.
And they go, Yep. I mean, you look at that movie
and it, it's hilarious, but it'svery it, it's depressing.
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Yeah, I was. Like it sounds kind of like
right now. I mean, it's, you know, who
knew, you know? I know I struggled with that
math equation. If you guys can help us figure
out if you have 5 apples and youtake away 2 apples, how many
apples do you guys have left? Smoke on it and leave your
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answers below. Oh, dude, I, I know I went a
little off on there. I had to smoke something else to
counteract that, that one. But I'll tell you, man, it just
made me think like I've been getting healthier.
You know, all that shit I just talked about earlier, guys, not
only that, but then I had a phone bill drop in my lap that I
had to get that paid and I was like, Oh my gosh.
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Then some auto pays went throughand I'm like, why is that on
auto pay? I'm not even there yet and I'm
like, you know, I'm getting thank you text messages.
Hey, Bridget, you're making youryour payment.
No, like that was supposed to befor the phone bill.
Like no. Shit, all that stuff.
And, and yeah, I didn't get upset.
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I didn't get upset, not one bit.Even all that happened.
I've had high blood pressure fora while now, been really worried
about it and I had to go to an Instacare because of my eye
bleed going blind in that eye. And now I'm just like, I learned
that my blood pressure has gone way down and I had accidentally
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stopped taking my blood pressuremedication because I ran out of
it And all I kept thinking, oh, I got to get a doctor's
appointment. When the fuck am I going to have
time for a doctor's appointment?And I'm like, fuck that shit.
I got to get this shit down. I got to get to work.
I got to do all these things andit forced me to stop and slow
down. And I looked at everything as a
blessing in that way, which has made me think like my, my
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purpose here is just to be able to befriend as many people as
possible, not for the fact that maybe I can get a sale out of
them. Or maybe, you know, I can feel
important. It's to do what I feel is, is,
is my, is my, is what I've been driven by.
You know, I, I, I try to live a very Christ like life and I, I
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am in, I'm not perfect and I'm not trying to be and I've got
my, my sins and etcetera, etcetera.
But for me, it's I just need to be good to people instead of
thinking about that. And because I've been doing
that, man, I just feel healthier, like legit healthier.
I'm I'm my weight is down because I don't eat with my
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emotions now. Like now I eat for sustenance
and I know that people have a hard time with eating for
emotions because you get that pleasure from that crunch, that
sweet, that salty, whatever. And if fuck my life up, dude,
like all of eating my emotions for years.
Like I wasn't super heavy beforewe started this.
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I was. At least I felt like I was.
Yeah, but I was heavy and. That's just because you're
sitting next to Skeletor, so. You know, no dude, I mean I was
way overweight. I mean, I have 40 lbs lighter
than when we first started the show.
I know it's been quite impressive, like the change, and
I'm sure you feel a whole ton different too, because you used
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to have a ton of diabetic neuropathy in your feet.
Yeah, that's not as bad. Now at night time, it's cold and
I got to wear these wool socks to keep the blood flowing.
But no, dude like it. It really is the thing that's
changed the most in me. Like, you know, people could
say, Oh yeah, well, you know, you were taking testosterone.
I've been off of that for almosttwo months now.
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And yeah, my drive to go to the gym isn't as high.
But when I do go, I put in a full good workout.
You know, am I happy to be there?
Not like I was when I was on testosterone.
When I was on testosterone, likea good amount of it.
I was like, and then then, you know, I go do my thing and I'm
like, yeah, just throw the whip.But now I'm just like, you know,
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I'm seeing it like this keeps you moving.
This keeps you pain free and youneed to push yourself.
You know, you know, we'll we'll use that when we need to, but
right now we don't need to. Let's let's try and build this
up before we had that. I just feel very thankful when I
go to the gym because I know I'mnot as strong as I could be, but
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I'm stronger than I was. And it's just like a fantastic
feeling to do the motions and golike, yeah, my muscles are
strong, that's all that matters.Like I don't have to be stronger
than I need to be. Yes, I can get stronger and I
will, but I'm also OK with the stage I'm at, which has been
kind of nice to. Get which you should be, Yeah,
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you really should be Brandon. I mean, you're working hard and
but you know. I'm pretty sure everyone has
some form of body dysmorphia where we look in the mirror when
we. Go oh.
Man, I wish this was different in you know, Anyway.
Right, I wish my ass wasn't so hairy or something like that,
right? Right, yeah, I wish I didn't
have like 4 nipples. I just, yeah.
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That sucks dude, I didn't know you had four nipples.
I'm so, yeah. But I know you mean it's, it's
really hard. We're hard on ourselves because
and you know, I don't want to betrite and say to society or
advertising. We do because you know what,
when I'm happy, I don't give a fuck about what anybody thinks
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about what I'm wearing. Yeah, it doesn't matter because
I think about like, you know, stories of the Bible, like John
the Baptist. That guy was a grungy looking
motherfucker. You know, I was eating locust
and honey. You probably grew.
Up did. You have a lot of like name
brands growing up. Oh, yeah.
Jordash, LA gear. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Lee brands. Oh.
Yeah, yeah. Like that.
Yeah, I'm like lucky. Brands.
I had DI Walmart brands, you know.
No, no, I knew of them. I didn't have them.
I didn't. Never.
Have them either. No, we went to Payless to get
shoes right? I, I got whatever weird name on
there and then whatever they were trying to copy from like
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Reebok. Remember the Pump?
Yeah. I thought if I had those shoes
when I was a kid I could jump higher.
My parents got me these ones andlegit, this is all they did.
And I want to know like, what grumpy boomer dad did it.
They're like, Reeboks is killingus.
We're trying to win. And he's like, guys over there,
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He's got a cigarette always in his, in his mouth.
And he goes hand that to me. He puts it in the ashtray, pulls
out a drill, the foam bottom of the shoe.
He drills three holes all the way through and he goes there.
Now they jump higher. And that's what they told
people. And legit, when I was a kid, I'm
this stupid kid going, oh, yeah,that makes me jump higher.
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And I would jump and I would believe it.
And that's seriously how simple it is to believe you can be
happy. Like I really am happy.
I have a lot to be upset about, but you have a lot.
To be on though, what are your thoughts on because that's when
I had realized in my depressive moments was like my thoughts
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changed and when my thoughts changed, my feelings changed and
it was this whole realization oflike holy shit, my thoughts
control my feelings. Well, if I'm depressed or
anxious or whatever, what am I thinking?
That's. Literally what's?
Controlling it. What am I thinking that's good?
That's. It, that's it.
It's just what am I thinking? OK, well, what makes me happy?
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What in this moment is good? What can I find that is not shit
right now? But even if it is shit, you know
it was like that book I was telling you about Ryan
Holiday's. Shut my mouth, please.
I'm sorry. Oh.
You're talking about shit, so OK, different title, all right?
I was totally taken off with garden.
I'm like, wait, what? Like I wasn't, I wasn't
(24:31):
frustrated. I was like, you just write.
What sound did you make there? I don't know what you said.
I was like, what the fuck? Then you said it after and I'm
like, OK, now it'll make sense now.
This book called The Obstacles Way, written by Ryan, Ryan
Holiday, and I was bringing up Stoicism earlier and this book
just talks about not necessarilythat the problems in your life
are not hard. The problems in your life are
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not difficult. What it is is that the problems
will continuously pop up in yourlife.
It's how you face those and how you continue to instill into
your mind to not breakdown, not freak out, not look at this is
it? But to go out and go and no, I'm
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not going to give up. And this is just what's
happening now. Like you talked about this
general in the in Gettysburg andhe was looking through with his
eyeglass. Like I don't know the exact
general, but he he was looking through with his eyeglass and
this cannonball comes ripping apart from the countryside, hits
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his horse beside him, alliterates the horse.
He didn't even flinch and it wasright beside him and he didn't
even flinch because he knew where he was going and he wasn't
going to let anything distract him.
And I've been thinking about that book a lot lately and I'm
like, I need to revisit it because it it doesn't talk about
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how you just got to be a stone faced motherfucker all the time,
right? Typical people think of
stoicism. They're going to think about
Jocko willing, which, yes, Jockois very stoic, but he's also
very about his purpose. He's a lot like you, Brandon,
right? Give me regiment, give me a lot.
Of weed. No, I don't think he does, but,
well, maybe he does now. But you got all these different
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things to do and you prefer that.
You prefer. Like if I'm doing things, it's
at this time and I'm going to get it done because I want to
accomplish things, because accomplishing things feels good.
It's not because you have to do it.
It just feels good. Yeah, so it's turning every and
I've been thinking about that too, because at work, you know,
I got mad love for my team. Jacob, Amanda, Adam, Rocco.
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Like these guys are cool. But I used to think like when
they would bitch and complain about like some of them would
complain about like fucking makethese calls is bullshit.
And I'm like, yeah, fucking justdo it.
And I learned that I'm like, yeah, but you know how I can
influence that? By being excited to do it and
congratulating them when I hear them get off of a call instead
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of hiding somewhere. Yeah.
You know. That's what I really enjoyed.
One of the few things my fast did right was the camaraderie of
like teams and and the excitement of that sale, whether
you closed it or not. Like it was joking, laughing
about the call, about the way itwent down, about the lady
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hanging up on you or whatever person flipped out on you and
what they said. You know, it was just having fun
with it instead of always being so serious with it.
Life doesn't always have to be so serious.
No, and that's hard, dude. It's hard because like I'm
letting go of that a lot more. Like I, you know, is it, am I
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out of the woods? I don't even look at it that way
anymore. I'm like, well, this is the
opportunity that's in front of me.
What can I do and how can I helpother people?
Because man, I'll tell you what,these last three years of, of
straight poverty, I'm grateful for them.
I really am. I think that our relationship
has become better and our podcasts got better, and we're
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not focused on like, making money from this and turning it
to our jobs. We're just like, you know what?
Whatever comes, comes. And I think it's because of
those things that opportunities start to show themselves.
And I see everything that happened this last week as a
real easy opportunity to just kind of lay down and say, well,
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you know, I can't see out of my eyes.
My wife's car is destroyed. My car is barely hanging in
there. And yet I'm like, well, how can
I turn this into a win? I know what I can do.
I'll just tell my boss I'm coming in a little bit later
because I got to take my kids toschool.
OK, What? How is that now difficult?
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And that means that I need to bemore focused at work to make
sure that I get everything done,not just what's expected of me.
Fucking fucking people's kids, but not everything that's
expected of me. It's what what I've what I've
promised I will do, and that's the thing that I want to look
at. But you know what I mean?
It's just like I don't look at at work now as fuck Mondays.
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I look at it going, I'm gratefulto be here, even if I didn't
want to get up that morning, even if I wanted the comfort of
the warm bed. And I think about it and I'm
like, man, you know, like when Iwas not doing things in a
structured way, I think I would have been a lot happier.
But when I really started to letgo of, I need to find what's
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different between us to make that a point of contention so
that I could argue my point. It doesn't matter anymore.
It really doesn't matter. And maybe it's age.
A lot of people say it's age like you start getting closer to
50 and you just start letting goof shit.
You just like fucking whatever. And you know, either goes one
way or the other. Either you get 50 and you flip
(30:02):
out. You you cheat on your wife, you
get a fast car, you run up a bunch of debt.
And then, you know, you're on a local news channel after you're
being released from prison afterthree years because you did some
extortion shit. And you're like, you know what?
I really learned a lot in there.Just like, you know, I just kind
of let go of everything and juststop thinking so fucking
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seriously about everything. Like I have to do this.
I have to do that instead of I get to do this, I get to do
that. And, and I've been doing that.
And it's because of that my, my body is changing.
My blood pressure has gone down to normal.
My sight is returning. You know, was there a negative
that went into it? I could have looked at it.
Oh, shit, they're going to put needles in my eyes instead of
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thinking, hey, there's a medicine in that needle that's
going to make my eye better. Cool.
You know, huge difference, huge difference.
And I wasn't scared. I wasn't nervous.
I, I, I mean, the girl there wasmore nervous for me, the MA.
And she's like you, you know, they're going to put needles in
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your eye. And I'm like, I know, I know,
right? Do I have to pay extra for that
or does that come installed? And she just started laughing.
And she goes, I'm so glad you'rebeing so good about it.
And I'm like, well, what's the alternative?
And that's. Fuck out and then they come hold
you down with like 6 people and you know.
That's why I'm like I'm I. I relish the present time and I
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look forward to the future. I changed my mentality after our
talk about time, but the one thing I I won't do is reflect on
the past that I can't change. Yeah, 'cause there's, you can
never change the past. It's good to learn from it to go
like to understand maybe why we've done things.
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It's kind of like in the momentswhere you know, you in our
stupid moments where we snap at our kids or something like shit,
hey, I'm sorry this came from, you know, this and that wasn't
OK. Don't know why I did that.
Like, but having that understanding, yeah, it might be
in that moment or really soon after, but it's not years or
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decades later going, oh, man, I'm beating myself up for this.
Well, why? What are you going to gain from
from that? What do you even gain from?
Like, yes, sometimes there's great times to go live in the
past. You know, I watch videos from my
childhood, but I'm not going andjust sitting and thinking about
it continuously where I'm livingin the past.
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Then, you know, instead of beingpresent or anxiety where we
think of all of these millions of potential futures where 99%
of them never happen, but our mind just likes to run rampant
with whatever idea that pops into it of like, oh shit, this
could happen and this and this and this.
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And you're like, Oh no, it's toomuch.
Yeah, it's kind of like the definition.
I mean, this my own definition. Maybe it is the definition of
anxiety, but anxiety is the fearof the unforetold future, and
that's pretty much what it is. It's just, you're just terrified
of what could be. And the more that I stop letting
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go of the when I started to let go of the past is when I was
able to be present, which is crazy, right?
And and that actually segues perfect into a story that we
talked about, which I think fitsway better in this context.
And, and I'll keep it as secularas possible, but the, my
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mother-in-law woke me up in the middle of the night.
We were talking about that. And she came to me with complete
fear in her eyes. And she says there's an evil
spirit in my room and I need youto get it out.
And I didn't question her. You know, I, I feel very
spiritual and very sensitive to that side too.
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Not necessarily like, you know, talking to dead people.
And when we brought Amber on, mylife changed after that
completely. I, I changed dramatically.
I became more conscientious of my actions.
I, I had a hard time talking to her after that because we're
good friends, but I had a hard time calling her because every
time she kind of like she would be able to just tell me what was
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up. She she knew she's like, I, I
understand and I don't want to tell you this and I'm so sorry
I'm telling you this, but all the shit you're going through
right now, you need to partner with your wife instead of both
of you trying to take it on the loan because she's going to be
an obstacle in your way and you're going to be an obstacle
in her way. And I was like and she was every
time talking to her. It's like talking to an Oracle
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and but she's. Saying your mother-in-law, she's
always, she's always been followed or for a long time by
evil. By evil spirits.
Like literally when she when I went down in that room it was
cold. The whole house was fine.
Dude that room was ice cold and the hair on my body just stood
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up and even like on my head likeI have no hair but I could feel
every follicle just with with this feeling of and I used to
think of it as fear but now I think of it as evil.
When I feel fear, I feel evil and it's, it's trying to get me
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to yield to it in a way of just giving and running away,
whatever. And I just, you know, I, I
prayed there. I didn't have any like special
movements I was going to do or anything like that.
And, and I only thought of the old gospels because the, you
know, Christ, whenever he would get rid of them of demons or
anything like that, they would say that he wasn't like doing
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this big thing. And there was, you know,
lightning and he pulled lightning.
Oh, wait a minute. That's that's Thor anyways, but
you know what I mean. He was, he was just said get
out. And they were like, where can we
go? And he goes, can we go in those
swine? Yeah, Yeah, you can go into
those filthy animals. Go ahead.
It wasn't anger, right? And I think of problems in our
life like people who do us wrong.
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These demons are the wrongs of others that have been done unto
us and that we still hold that. And my mother-in-law has
struggled with her, with a family member her entire life.
And when I talked to her, you know, I went in there.
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I mean, I totally believe it wasthere.
I felt like a giant mean what? Like if you've ever seen the
movie 300 and there's the the wolf in the cold, the first
story about the boy fighting thewolf, that giant black wolf with
the red teeth and the red eyes. That's what I felt like was in
the room and immediately felt fear cold.
And I just, I knew I was OK because I wasn't going to let
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fear keep me from figuring out what was in there.
It was in a picture. And for those of you know, I
mean, that energy can house itself in this stuff, just like
you're talking about in that museum.
Just being around that. Like these are not things that
should be reflected on. They should be destroyed.
It should be destroyed. That's pure evil was going on
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there. It doesn't remind us of what
could be. Yeah.
But at the same time it's, it's pure evil.
And I, I think it serves a good and a bad purpose.
And that's why I'm not like tearit down.
But it definitely dude. Like I think about all those
unforgiving things that we did. And that's what came to my mind
when I talked to her. She was like 2 days later.
She was like, it's it's not, it's not leaving.
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I said, well, let me ask you something.
I said you follow the, the commandments that you've, you
say you do. And she goes, yeah.
And I said, well, have you forgiven so?
And so she goes, well, I can't do that.
And I'm like, then that's why it's here.
And there's nothing you can do to get rid of it because you're
holding it. It's inside you.
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It's a feeling she is feeling this darkness, but a feeling is
dictated by our thoughts. So she's feeling horrendous.
Well, what is she thinking about?
What is her thoughts right now? What is her focus been on this
last hour, you know, and how many of us drag her?
Because when my thoughts got thedarkest were my darkest moments.
I was the moments I wanted to kill myself.
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Those were the moments I didn't want to be her.
Those are the moments I questioned my value and my
purpose and my worth. Like those are the moments where
you see yourself as such a smallworthless like, and I can
imagine that whatever she's feeling in that moment, whatever
her thoughts are, have been, he said.
If she's been under this hatred or this whatever for her entire.
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Life unforgiveness. Well, I mean, you know, and The
thing is, I mean, we could listen to the story.
I mean, I know the whole story and we could say, yeah, that's
fucking horrible. Like that's horrendous to go
through all that one. And then this person still
expects you to love them unconditionally.
And which is funny because I seea lot of these, what are they
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called, buffet Christians or buffet Mormons or whatever,
where they like to pick the things that make them look the
best. And it's not because of egotism,
it's because of not fitting in. And when you don't fit in,
you're an outlier, which means you, you can't make friends,
right? And that that causes it's not
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intentional. We, we do it all the time as
people. I don't see it in the cannabis
community. I mean, you know, only thing to
be able to have sacrament with another person who uses cannabis
is to offer cannabis saying, Hey, do you want it?
I mean how often is it you can make a friend to anywhere?
Do you feel like a lot of religious people are, they don't
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really connect because they are fearful or shameful of showing
their true self because they judge themselves so much that
even like I can't show that to you or my neighbor or this
person, my friend, whatever, my sibling, because they'll judge
me. They'll treat me different,
whatever it is, because obviously it's not OK what I'm
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doing. When really half of the sins
that people do are just. Normal everyday human shit.
They're not out hurting anyone, they're not doing anything.
It's just. A sin and.
Well, and. Sometimes they do, and that's
OK. It should be OK.
It does happen all the time. People hurt humans continuously.
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All the time. And, and what, what can we do
about it? We can't do anything about that.
We stand up for it when we see it.
Yeah, what? That's what I'm saying like when
when something like that is happening, but often, often when
bad things start happening to people that consider themselves
good is that they are not livingup to their potential.
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And what I mean by that is not necessarily like societal
potential or religious potential, but for individual
spiritual potential. And that is when we think about
ourselves constantly. And that's why they do that.
I think that you're exactly right that they do that because
they are fearful in a way. And the reason why they're
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fearful is that they're not genuine with their promise.
If they said I'm going to do these things then they pick and
choose. Well I'll love God, but my
neighbor's kind of a cunt. Fuck that bitch.
But it's not doing it because they want to, because they
understand the core thing of it.It's more of like, well, I'm
doing this checklist because this is what this book told me.
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But it's not like they skip so much to the first ones.
It's a person, a person convinced them.
A person said, hey, look, this is making me happy.
This is where MLM's come from. Somebody probably got like this
amazing experience with essential oils and she's like,
oh, my goodness, if I made a bath bomb in my garage and Da da
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Nuskin is born, right? And that's what it turns out to
be. But it, it starts out with
something good and pure. It's like, yeah, I could heal
people with this. I could make their lives better.
And then when they start thinking about me, me, me, I, I,
I then it, it starts getting clouded.
And then, you know, common sensestarts to leave.
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And then, you know, it's all about me.
But when we think about we, we really start to be able to kind
of own it together. Like if somebody fucks up, oh,
well, if somebody says somethingthat was kind of hurtful, I
would now rather go, that's not cool.
Instead of what you fucking fight because you said words and
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sounds. Oh, I'm going to take your life
for words and sounds and it's like what I and and I'm very
well trained on doing that. Like I know what I'm doing
there. People have known me for years.
They know I know how to handle myself because I've been
learning from A and putting it into practice.
But I don't even think about that anymore.
I think, I mean, I carry a gun because something could happen
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and I'd rather feel a little bitsafer.
Am I ever going to use it? Probably not.
I hope to God not, but you know,it's there for it.
But the idea isn't to shoot somebody, it's just to protect
others and myself. And all I think about now is
like how I can talk somebody into a place where they feel
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comfortable enough to be able tojust let that shit go.
And so full circle, I told my mother-in-law, I'm like, look,
you forgive. And then if those spirits come
back, you are to politely ask them to leave because they're
not welcome here. Don't do it with anger.
Halloween dude. I'm getting ready because my
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wife's like I'm going with our youngest.
Our youngest is the last to do trick or treating.
He's 10. All the other ones like my other
kids like Arya and Nick. There was this house in our
neighborhood and they do a full on haunted house.
Oh yeah. Every year and Arya won best
actor. She looked like the nun I had
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like creepy nun from the movies,white face and red lips and then
dark eyes. And she would walk around like
this. And then she just goes, she does
a back handstand and then startscrawling at him.
And the kids went running away. And this one kid goes, I peed
myself. I peed myself.
Oh. That's hilarious.
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But dude, like, I'm there, I'm getting ready.
I've got this bowl of diabetes in front of me and I'm like,
I'll, I'll give small amounts ofdiabetes to kids today.
We'll do it as a collective. Yeah, we'll, we'll push type to.
America, here we go. Yeah.
Fuck yeah. Like like what do the kids?
Get diabetic, they're gonna be. The funny thing is you start to
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see people like these kids are complaining at my door.
They're like, why did you get a potato?
I got a potato too. And I'm like, that's awesome.
That's hilarious. Go bake it.
I would wrap it in tin foil. That would be better.
You know, it just had instructions.
But anyways, I'm standing there at the door and I'm waiting for
kids to come. Not very many came this year and
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my mother-in-law came up and shegoes, hey, how you doing?
I said good. And she goes, hey, I just want
you to know that that worked. I said I don't know what you're
talking about. And she goes, well, it happened
2 weeks ago in about 3 weeks by seeing this.
And she says, well, they came back and I was getting really
upset. And then I said, and she's like
(45:30):
in that thought of what you said.
And so I kindly asked them to leave and they laughed and they
haven't been back in 2 days. And I said cool.
I said now forgive and just be done with it.
I, I hold no ill feelings towards anybody anymore, even if
they've done something horrible to me.
I really don't. And I, I, I feel because I have
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let that go Brandon, that even if somebody does something
fucking horrible, even if they hurt somebody I love, I'll be
like, you know what? They just had shit going on.
And I'm glad I wasn't there because I'd probably lose my
shit. But that's OK.
I don't believe that being a Christian or, or following some
type of God, if, if Christianityisn't your thing for me, it's
(46:14):
spoken to me. Very true.
But the idea that I have to walkaround as this perfect person,
there's just always doing all the right things.
And I go to the special castle and and do the seances and, you
know, I drink the cup and I put the wafer in my.
Yeah. I do that one all right.
I wear fancy jewelry to show everybody that I believe that's
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only for me. And it doesn't reside in
clothes, nor stone or book or wood.
It's in me and that goes with me.
And when I do that, I feel good because all I'm thinking is
like, then they nailed him to a cross.
They spat on him, They humiliated him.
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And he still is just like, you know what?
They don't know what they're doing.
And I never really got that until just this week.
And I'm just like, yeah, I can't.
If I allow that anger or hatred to come in, then what I do, I
allow that opportunity to connect with another human being
to keep our relationship going. Shit, we have a lot of different
(47:20):
views, but we have never let that get in the way of our
friendship. Why?
Because it has nothing to do with us.
Those are topics. That's like saying, oh, I like
chocolate ice cream. And I'm like.
Vanilla, like vanilla, you're not psych.
Well fuck you guys. Like why does it even matter?
We'll mix them together. You can't do that.
It doesn't even matter. And you know why?
(47:42):
Because it all turns into poo. And so it's just like, and
that's the thing, like literallythat that's the message out of
that one. Everything turns out to poo.
So TuneIn next week. Oh, real quick, while we're
talking about poo, let's talk about pee and some of the best
pee that you can get on the market, Brandon.
Is synthetics 5 in case you're into like it's.
(48:03):
Disappearing. It's blinking.
If you're into like, peeing in it or drinking it or, you know,
pouring on your friend. It's interdimensional.
We're using it to pass a test synthetic.
Spy is, is grist. It's the best P ever, right?
I mean, and Brandon, how much does it cost?
(48:24):
Well, we get a percentage off. What's it 20%?
No, I think we get 25% off for the audience.
It gets a good amount in there maybe.
All right, so not only that, butit's worth how much it could be
worth 50,000 A? 100,200 thousand God, I mean, if
you're making more than that, you probably don't care because
you're running your own thing atthat point, so.
(48:46):
Yeah, but just, you know, you should not have to be afraid of
passing tests just because you enjoy this amazing plan.
Yeah. So go to Synthetics 5, use the
promo code down there, and save yourself $50,000 this year.
Yeah, TuneIn, next week.
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