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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, entrepreneurs, dreamers, business owners and
happy people with high hopes.
Welcome to Cash Flows with yourhost, cash Matthews.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
All right, good morning, happy people, friends
around the country.
We're glad you're here.
I'm Cash Matthews, your hosttoday for another riveting
episode of Cash Flows, and ourguest today is Ryan Jamieson.
We'll introduce him in a minute, but first we want to say hello
to the man behind the lens andthe microphone, mr Kenneth
Bauckham.
Kenneth, good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Good morning, how's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
What are the phrases Like?
If I was any better, I'd betwins.
I never understood that one,but I've had a great day, man,
things are well, and I had agood breakfast with my prayer
group this morning.
Life's pretty good.
Yes, it is.
We're excited to be here.
So welcome to Cash Flowseverybody.
Our philosophy in life ispretty much do things as they
(00:54):
come, and so we call that.
If you see it on the sign backthere fire, aim ready.
And that philosophy is justabout getting started, moving
forward step by step, inch byinch, whatever it takes.
But if you're moving in adirection, move forward towards
your goals, your dreams, youraspirations, and God does not
need to steer a parked car.
(01:14):
And if you're a prayer person,I think there's action involved,
and so we were excited today tobring in a fellow that I am
fond of who talks about takingaction, mr Ryan Jamieson.
Ryan, welcome to Cash Flows.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Thank you, I'm really excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, we'll try to not muck this up for you, but I
know you've got a lot to say Imight be able to do that on my
own too.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
We'll find out.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, we've all got that capacity.
I've watched some of ourouttakes and we've done a few
things.
Ryan, give us just a briefupdate about your career, your
business, why you're here, whatyour business is called.
Give us your elevator pitchhere.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
The elevator pitch.
I like it, yeah, okay.
So basically the elevator pitchis I've been a serial
entrepreneur almost 20 years,grew up in a family of
entrepreneurs and I really justdon't know any other way of
living.
After my time in the militarygot involved in restaurants.
That's where I kind of startedconsulting and it just evolved
from there and this is mycalling.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, so you're one of those guys that will work 80
hours a week.
To avoid working 40 hours aweek, 80 hours a week would be a
vacation.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
If you ask my wife yeah, so give us your family
dynamic.
You're married.
Yes, yes, that's my wife.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So give us your family dynamic.
You're married, yes, yes, very,very blessedly so I have my
wife, kat, and then I have threebeautiful demons children, and
one boy, two girls, and I adorethem very much, and you suspect,
one day they will have watchedDad so often that they too shall
(02:41):
become entrepreneurs.
My son is already actuallyshowing tendencies.
He has been running arounddrawing people pictures and then
giving them to him and askingfor a dollar.
Oh, wow, you have to tell himfirst kid, you have to set the
price first before you give itto him.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But hey, that's a starting point.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
That's a solid pitch, you already have it Well,
that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So you grew up in a family of entrepreneurs.
What kind of businesses did yougrow up around?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So, before I was around or aware, my father
started a lumberyard, and afterthat one went the direction it
went.
He then started studying forhis Series 7, 66, and opened his
own financial firm.
Okay, and that is where Iwatched someone display how to
(03:31):
work hard.
Right, I'm one of six kids.
We were all homeschooled allthe way through high school.
My mom stayed home and shealways had some entrepreneurial
thing going on as well, and shehomeschooled all of us.
Wow, god bless your mom.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Six kids homeschooled , all of us.
Wow, god bless your mom Sixkids homeschooled.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I'm telling you All the way through, all the way
through, all the way through.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So I mean, this is not a homeschool conversation,
but it can be for a minute.
I mean, how do you think thataffected you through your life?
I mean that's a differentvisual not going to public
schools and not that they're badgod bless the teachers but
right, I mean, how did thataffect you visually as you went
forward in life and to become anentrepreneur and to become a
coach of entrepreneurs, right?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I think that, um, it was a gift that I really didn't
understand when I was younger.
Yeah, and having the ability tolook back in hindsight.
Now I really see the gift myparents gave me.
Oh my gosh, it was focused onteaching me how to think right.
I wasn't being taught ortrained on a subject you know.
(04:36):
We were encouraged to learn youknow, two to three instruments.
We were encouraged to play chess.
We were encouraged to go todance lessons on top of all our
regular subjects as well.
My parents really used thatopportunity to teach me how life
operated and how it operated inhigh stakes environments, and
how to think Wow, as a child, Ijust wanted to go play
(05:00):
basketball.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
That was it.
That was it.
And did you ever playbasketball competitively
anywhere?
You're tall.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
No no.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Can you?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
shoot Hoops.
No, nothing happened I respectsports for their economic value
to their geographic locales.
Other than that, go sportyhoops.
They probably did me a favorthere too.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Go sports team.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
But what a great foundation, what a great
upbringing, absolutely.
And then you'll homeschool yourchildren as well.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Right now we are homeschooling just kind of as a
carryover from COVID, and I'mnot sure if that tradition is
going to continue or not.
However, knowing what I knownow, that is definitely going to
change their educationaltrajectory Right For sure.
Yeah, it's a focus on unlockingtheir mind, you know, not just
shuffling them from one grade toanother, if that makes sense,
(05:53):
yeah, yeah, you know we'vepartially homeschooled our
children all their lives at thispoint.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And the things that you talk about, the extra things
writing poetry, learning amusical thing, traveling we call
that world schooling.
I think one of the best thingsyou can do for your kids and
even for your own heart, is togo see how some of the rest of
the world lives.
Go travel absolutely.
Yeah, I mean, if you want to geteducated, you want to find out,
you want to do some Americanhistory and go to India or go to
(06:22):
some of these places like Haiti, that struggle and we'd be so
thankful to be here in Americaand we've got it good.
But with that, we do have itgood.
Yes, absolutely, and you're outin the entrepreneurial world
now as a coach, and let's talkabout first the name of your
coaching enterprise.
It's called Entrepreneur Fight.
All right, we can find you atentrepreneurfightcom.
That is correct.
(06:42):
All right, tell us aboutEntrepreneur Fight.
Yeah, I mean, just give us thelittle overview of that.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
So a snapshot of Entrepreneur Fight.
It's the brainchild of theentrepreneurial experience from
beginning to at least where I'mat now.
Okay, and it was built with myyounger entrepreneurial self in
mind.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Well, because you know when you start, you
struggle you know, and there's alot that goes into that, and I
remember just wanting someone totake a shot on me, just someone
, like if someone would show upfor like 15 minutes, right, or
be able to answer a questiononce, or twice, a week, and so
that's what Entrepreneur Fightis designed to be is a community
(07:34):
where we all come together asentrepreneurs, we share
experiences, we have educationalresources and it's fairly new.
So we're growing and we'relearning, and I'm hoping to have
other mentors, coaches andeducators join me in the
platform soon.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
That's a great idea.
So what made you decide, though, to be like a direct coach?
I mean, entrepreneur fight's acool thing, right.
But your coaching is moreone-on-one right now with
entrepreneurs.
I mean, okay, so there's a fewcoaches out there, a few, and I
love coaching.
I love the concept of coaching.
I think without it, we'redoomed.
Tell us what made you decide tobe a coach.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I kind of fell into that by accident.
I'm not like to be perfectlyfrank.
I fell into it.
I had, after I got out of themilitary, I started in
restaurants because it was, likeyou know, just taming chaos and
I loved it.
Right and so I got asked bysome other restaurant owners
after I'd had some time, likeyou know, how would they fix
this?
So I kind of did someconsulting and then people just
(08:34):
kept like showing up and askingand I was like all right, well,
hey you know I'm going to chargefor this.
And then I found out that Ireally enjoyed it and kind of
branched out from restaurants toentrepreneurs.
And now I do it because I ammildly irritated by the massive
(08:56):
industry that targetsentrepreneurs, specifically
newer ones.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Right.
So you said there's a lot ofcoaches out there.
We said that kind of jokinglyin your intake Do we need more?
Are we short a few?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
No, I don't think we're short a few, that's for
sure I do.
Let's put it this way there isa lot of information out there.
There's a lot of people outthere that say they know
something and they're willing togive it to you.
However, what ends up happeningis they tap you, they use that
(09:33):
whole like address the problem,agitate the problem, make it
worse, make you feel like theycan save you, and they walk off,
essentially in some cases, andso I just became obsessed with
empowering entrepreneurs, likethat's, to help them fight the
odds.
Right, that's my mission,that's who?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I am Okay.
So let's focus on fighting theodds.
I mean, first, we all know theodds of sustaining as an
entrepreneur beyond a few years.
You know a lot of people givethese numbers 80% fail.
I don't know about that, Idon't like to focus on that.
That's too generic for me.
Right?
Because the question anentrepreneur wants to know is
(10:16):
not what the other 40 million do.
What are my odds?
What do I do?
Yeah, what is my chance to gomake it?
So let's talk about the odds.
Tell me about the odds.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So the reason why I focus primarily on startup
through the first three years isbecause that's where the
majority of them struggle, orwhen you're first starting out a
business.
This is where everything is new, right, and so, like some of
the odds they face right, theyface the lack of agile resources
, they face a business creditsystem that can be very
(10:50):
difficult to understand right,and they face a very motivated
pseudo-education industry thatfocuses on them.
And not that there isn't good,you know, there's obviously good
resources and there's a lot ofpeople.
I can recommend that I've spenta lot of money on people,
obviously, and, but there's alot of bad actors out there too.
(11:13):
And when you're new, how canyou tell the difference?
Right, how?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
do you differentiate?
So what, then, is thedifference between and I think
this is an important question,yeah, and I think I have you
pigeonholed into one more ofthese.
There are a lot of coaches,yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And there are a lot of great coaches.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Absolutely I love some of these people, but then
there's also this role of mentor, yeah, and I know a little bit
about you.
I know you're a coach, but Ialso see you as a mentor to some
people, and I think that's amuch deeper relationship, one
that you know it definitelyprobably has a lot longer
(11:50):
timeline, regardless of themoney.
Yeah, talk to us aboutmentorship.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
So the difference I see between mentorship and
coaching coaching is essentiallywhere you take someone where
they're at you, assess theirindividual situation there, you
go Right and then you work withthat situation.
Specifically, a mentor issomeone who comes alongside you,
(12:15):
gets to know you as anindividual and works with you
based on how you're built as aperson, and I learned that from
my mentor.
It's not uncommon for my mentorto be just announced out of
nowhere.
Don't do that, ryan.
How?
did you know, don't do that.
(12:37):
I don't like people to know melike that?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Can a coach be your mentor?
Is that a different role?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I think, to a certain degree, yes and no.
So, for instance, like in thebeginning again the startup the
first three years it's difficultto find a resource that is one
accessible and two able to workwith you in a variety of roles
without encumbering you with avariety of different systems.
So, yes, I think coaches can bementors, but only in a very
(13:07):
specific time period in yourbusiness.
Those roles definitely need tobe separated and, just on
average, I found it's around thetwo to three-year mark Right.
My goal is to get them awayfrom me as soon as possible.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
So you and I have been part of the same pretty
large group of networking peoplehere in this community over
7,000 people Love it too.
And the majority of those areunder three years.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And you're finding, and those numbers I mentioned, x
number of people fail in thefirst three to five years.
And that's true.
Yes, but you're working in thatworld to change that end result
.
Yes, but you're working in thatworld to change that end result
.
Is there one common thing thatthose entrepreneurs face on a
daily or monthly basis?
Yes, yeah, what is that thing?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Entrepreneurs have been told or sold what to think
from day one.
Oh, okay, Expand on this for aminute.
Yeah, absolutely no-transcript.
(14:36):
Get to know themselves and howto work with themselves and how
to think through their ownprocesses and how to use those
processes of who you are and theway you're built in your
business.
You get so much further.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
And probably quicker as well, oh yeah, and it stays
longer.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
It has staying power because you're not on some sort
of self-explorative journey atthe same time.
As you know, like like I always, this is a very industry piece
of industry piece of advice, Iknow, but I always tell
entrepreneurs, especially newones, don't go on a journey of
self-discovery when you'restarting a business.
You need to start a business.
(15:16):
Who you are, you need to knowwho you are.
You need to deal with it as theway you are, because if you go
in and you start changingyourself, okay, I mean and again
, self-improvement's great, butif you start changing who you
are as you're starting a newbusiness, that business will
never go anywhere because itdoesn't have an identity,
because you don't have one right.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So, and by the time they've started some
entrepreneurial endeavor,presumably they've already found
themselves or discoveredthemselves.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
That would be the hope you would be surprised.
Knowing what you do, youprobably wouldn't be surprised,
but there's a lot that don'teven know.
It's a thing.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Well, there are active entrepreneurs.
I knew I was going to be anentrepreneur from the time I was
eight.
It never occurred to me thatI'd ever have a job Right, so I
was an active entrepreneur, itwas just going to happen.
But we also find there are lotsof reactive entrepreneurs.
I lost a job, a spouse, anopportunity, something happened,
I had an illness, and they findthemselves being so.
(16:17):
Those are more reactiveentrepreneurs.
Can you work with both sides ofthat?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, so as a coach, slash, mentor or within the
program or platform itself, thegoal is to find out where you
are and give you what you needto move to the next step, to
where I can.
Again, I know the way thissounds, but my goal is to hand
you off to someone as quickly aspossible Right.
(16:43):
Hand you off to someone asquickly as possible Right,
because the world that I'm in,the place that these
entrepreneurs are typically inwhen I work with them, is
chaotic.
It's confusing, there's a lotof fear.
I mean, like you don't want toadmit it when you're new.
You gotta drive the car and youdon't have the I'm doing great,
and inside you're like wantingto puke because you don't have
to make payroll.
(17:03):
So it's, and I know what.
So it's an interesting position, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
So moving forward.
I mean, let's talk for a secondjust about coaching in general,
because I am a coaching fan.
I believe in it 100%.
If you're doing it like, ifyou're acting as a coach man, I
think that's a worthy position.
I love athletics.
I'm a golfer.
I was a bicycle racer.
You know I've managed things.
(17:33):
What a way to.
I was a bicycle racer.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
You know I've managed things.
What a way to put that bicycleracer.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And I've managed stuff for some Olympians, you
know, and I get to seeperformance at a high level.
I was able to perform for awhile at a high level.
I'm a big fan of golf.
Favorite golfer is JackNicklaus.
Every January, even when healready had climbed the mountain
, would go back to his coachevery year and say, hey, teach
(17:59):
me to play golf, start from thebeginnings.
And guys like Tiger Woods andJohn Elway people that I have
favorite I don't have favoritewith them, but that are athletes
that I follow.
And Larry Bird man, they give alot of Michael Jordan give a
lot of credit to the coachingthey received on the way up.
And there are so many of usentrepreneurs that we aspire and
(18:20):
I'll just call it the rock starlevel.
You know, we aspire to thisrock star level of life.
We want to make it big, but wedon't want to do the things that
the rock star level of peopledo.
And the one thing that they allhave in common is they have a
coach.
Yes, I love watching some ofthe like the hard rock band.
I love all kinds of music, butyou see one of the guys that's
(18:42):
in, you know some death metaldeal, but when they talk to him
as a human not the stage guy,but as a human he'll say man.
My fifth grade music teacherright taught me how to play
cello there was this catalystmoment?
Yeah, and I think coachesrecognize in others things that
those others only imagine to betrue about themselves, and so I
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salute the coaches.
Man, I have been coached and weall have a what's the?
Right word.
I guess we all have a blindspot, Kenneth.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
So bias, bias, blindness is what I call it.
Yeah, you can't see what's youknow, even even as a coach right
, I have a mentor.
Yeah, absolutely you have tohave one Right, and there'll be
times where I'm like I do notunderstand why this isn't
working and my mentor will belike because you know you
shouldn't do it like that, youtell your people not to do it
(19:35):
like that.
I'm like oh, am I doing itbackwards?
And he goes yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I'm like oh Well, we can't see what we can't see, we
don't know what we don't know.
Right, and to have that extraset of eyes to have another set
of eyes and I don't know.
I think people get caught up onthe price, worrying about paying
somebody, and the last coach wevisited with our topic was hey,
(19:59):
the cost of having a coach is X, but you ought to see the cost
of not having a coach If you'repursuing a dream or a vision or
a plan, and having that extraset of eyeballs it's worth 10x
easy in my brain.
So, very cool, we're going totake a quick break and say thank
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All right, thank you for that, sir.
We're glad to have MFP as asponsor and we're here today
with Ryan Jamieson.
You can find Ryan on the web atentrepreneurfightcom.
You'll have to Google how tospell entrepreneur.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Still use spell check .
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, entrepreneurfightcom and Ryan
Jamieson is a coach forentrepreneurs and we're talking
today about those first threeyears of business and how
critical that is as anentrepreneur usually a newer
entrepreneur or a new endeavor.
So let's segue out of that andI understand your mission and I
(21:28):
admire it and I support it 100%.
Well, thank you, but we have toask the question that our
listeners and viewers are askingand why you?
Why me?
Yeah, let's talk about you fora second.
Why not some other coach?
Why not some other method?
Can't we just go to Dr Googleor find it online?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Go to University of YouTube.
Yes, the University of YouTube.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
That's a new one.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
You know, I know that I'm not sure that's the thing
it's like.
I know that usually there'ssome sort of spiel we're
supposed to launch into ascoaches Like you can believe me.
You know, I just never got that,but here's what I can tell you.
I remember what it felt like.
I remember it being confusing.
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I remember it being confusing.
I remember the fear I rememberhaving.
I remember standing on theporch of my house asking myself
how do I tell my wife that Ican't pay any of these bills?
I remember that with a vividly,and that is what formed me as
(22:44):
an entrepreneur.
And so, as a coach, I'm reallydoing this for me.
I'm doing this for the youngerme, for the younger
entrepreneurs.
Now, obviously, I can't go backin time, but so I'm, I'm, I'm
going back for the others togive them what I was just dying
(23:05):
for, right, you know.
So I'm not saying I'm the bestcoach out there probably far
from it but what I, what I, whatI am is, I'm coming back for
you and I'll give you what Ihave and I'll tell you what I
know, and I will get you to thenext expert that I can get you
to, and so that's why me.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Well, I think that's a great answer.
I noticed recently you hadstated a goal publicly, like
just during this year you wantto meet a hundred new
entrepreneurs face to face forcoffee and I always felt like
and I've met with you a fewtimes and I always enjoy our
time together.
But I think those moments, just,I think the first coaching
(23:48):
event for everybody is when yousit down to have coffee and they
, they have that moment wherethey become themselves around
you.
You know, the bravado might begone and that may take two
visits, but you know, I thinkthere's, I think there's a very
subtle thing.
I mean there, do you find avalue in these one-on-ones that
we do out for coffee, you know,or do people open up to you?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I have a very selfish reason for doing one-on-ones.
Okay, let's do do dish.
Um, as you stated earlier, alarge number of the people in in
the group the bong are in theirfirst one to three.
And it's easy because you I ownanother company with my brother
(24:32):
.
I'm lucky, I'm so blessed towork with my family, and it's
easy to get into life and intobusiness and forget where you
came from, and it's easy toforget the people that need you,
right?
And so I do these one-on-onesone because these are my people
(24:56):
right, this is what.
I'm born to do.
This is who I, this is what Iam born to do.
But you can't do what you'reborn to do if you get get
disconnected from it.
So, yeah, I sit down and wehave a one-on-ones, and there'll
be a few, and I've actually,I've actually, I've actually
told a few people that I've metthis.
I'm like, hey, so I have aproblem.
(25:19):
And they're like what's that?
I'm like I tend to kind of turnthese things into coaching
sessions, and then I never shutup and they're like, oh, okay,
but by the end of it it'susually something along the
lines of like you know, thankyou, okay, but by the end of it
it's usually something along thelines of like, you know, thank
you, and it's a common practiceto post a picture, you know, in
(25:41):
the bong afterwards.
And I started forgetting to dothat.
And then I in my world, right,what I teach is something like
we don't do things on accident.
There's a subconscious reason.
So I went on that explorationjourney and what I realized was
if people know that I do theseone-on-ones and they know that
(26:02):
they end up turning intocoaching sessions of some sort,
putting them out there on theInternet saying, hey, they met
with a business coach may not bewhat they want.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
What they need or what works for them.
So you think there's some kindof social stigma that people
might have if you're workingwith a coach?
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Especially in this one-to-three meeting with a
coach, I have found to be verystigmatized Wow.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
My name is Cash Matthews.
I've been in business 42 yearsand I've used a coach for about
35 of them, and I still do today, and without my coaching team
and mentors, this thing that hasworked for us would not have
worked nearly as well.
I love flying places to getcoaching.
Three or four times a year I'llbe gone for three or four days
(26:49):
to go, sit with a notepad andhumility, Right and just learn.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I mean, like you know , you spend money on this stuff,
right, of course, but well intothe six figures I've spent on
education for myself.
Oh yeah, I'm investing in meright.
Right, this is not a game whereI get to be like I guess this
is the right thing, right?
Do I really want to go home tomy wife and kids be like hey, I
guessed I did.
(27:13):
Okay, I don't know, it's fine,you know.
So, yeah, no, it's uh.
I will have a mentor until theday I die?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
yeah for sure.
And you, uh, you wouldn't go toa doctor that didn't get
continuing education.
Oh not, yeah, I mean you.
You want no, it's not a purposeyou want these professionals in
your life to be coached.
Yeah, you know, and you needthat's a tough one to go to
somebody and go hey, where'd you?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
learn all.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It's on purpose you want these professionals in your
life to be coached?
Yeah, you know, and you need.
That's a tough one to go tosomebody and go hey, where'd you
learn all this?
Like, eh, you know the YouTube.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, the YouTube, I got it in school.
TikTok.
It's well, you can always tellthis is a litmus test, right?
You can always tell someone whois a good coach or mentor if
they talk about their failures,if they talk about their
mistakes, the things they didwrong, how to avoid these things
(28:03):
and how to leave them.
So my mentor, eric and I dreadthis day.
There's a day where he's goingto send me out the door, right,
and I really don't want that tohappen, right.
But he knows there's a time andso do I.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Time to move on.
Yeah, I think we're called todo that.
You know time to move on, moveup, and you know, but that's, I
think, that moment.
Even when a coach like youmoves on and moves up, it's to
the next better thing.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yes, yes, I have to continue.
I have to continue betteringmyself because there's more I
need to know.
And yes, because I want tobetter myself, but because I
want to be better for the peopleI work with.
Yeah, you know, my mission isto work with them, so why would
(28:56):
I subject?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
myself to.
Ignorance isn't the right word,but why would I allow myself to
get dull?
Yeah for sure.
Yeah, that's a.
People want a rock starlifestyle, but they have a g
cord mentality and they've.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
They've learned one little part of it and I hate
that rock star lifestyle thinghey, I have a whole other rock
star lifestyle story.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I'll tell you off the air, but you know I.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I think what you said there about a coach sharing
their failures.
I think that is so beautifuland brutal and we're going to do
a podcast on my failures.
It'll be 372 hours for episodeone Can.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I come listen and watch In a 10-session series.
Yeah, it's a really big memorycard we record that, yeah,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
But I mean, you don't learn from succeeding, right,
you observe from succeeding, oh,do this, do this, do this.
But man, it's the failures thatreally burn.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I mean, Fail fast, fail often.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, learn, but move forward, stumble forward.
Right, you know that's beenfalling forward.
Yeah, I'm just a stumbleforward guy and I and I don't
know if I learned that from acoach or just from practical
application and somebody when Ifirst started said man, try to
get one percent better a monthand then in five years you're 50
better.
(30:08):
Then I'm like, well, what if Icould get one percent better a
week, or two percent better aweek?
And now that I have been inthis realm for 42 years, I think
anybody can get better 2% aweek.
Yeah, that's entirely possibleby what you read, what you
listen to.
Turn the TV off, shut offsocial media, get a coach, write
down.
I mean just some of the basicsthat I think all three of us
(30:31):
take for granted.
But I think anybody can get 2%better a week and I think they
can do that a hundred weeks in arow and all of a sudden they go
from.
You know starting income, youknow we have a.
We have a person in our bondgroup.
I don't want to say who theyare, but they started their
business like two weeks beforecoming to the first bond event.
They've been coming now for twoyears.
(30:53):
Income first year 14 000.
They're just getting going likeit was tough and we don't know
what we're doing.
Uh.
Income second year I gotta makesure I get this right 95 000.
yes, I'm sorry, yeah, I'm thereIncome for this year 2024, on
track for $165,000.
(31:14):
That's freaking fantastic.
No college degree and if youmeasure this person's life
against yours, you would saythat they've had some more
challenges.
And here this person is like,yeah, I've got some challenges,
they're over here, but myfuture's over here.
And I love those stories.
Man, like I'll listen to thatstory all day, every day,
(31:39):
because you know they aren'tsupposed to fly, but they do,
yeah, and they often fly thefurthest.
And people, you know what if Ifail?
Well, what if I fly?
You know what if it works?
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Well, I tell people all the time, like you are in
the best country in the world tofail.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, like you know in other countries, if you fail,
like okay, you're going tostarve in the gutter now.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Possibly.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Here it's like all right.
Well, you know, if you have to,you declare bankruptcy and you
go to the in some cases like thegovernment programs and make
sure you eat and then you getback on the horse.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
You know this is a great country to fail in, you
know, and this is a great cityto be in for business.
Honestly, Absolutely, I'vemoved here for Tulsa's economy
7,000 plus members.
And if any of you is hungry orhomeless you can come live with
me and I'll feed you.
And there's hundreds of us withthat thing in our world.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
I love teaching people skills and trades and
stuff, so I'm always down to dothat too Well, so let's talk
about Entrepreneur Fight.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I want to hear about that.
What is it?
How does it work?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
So Entrepreneur Fight , like I said, is the brainchild
.
It's the culmination of aseries of experiences that went
one direction or the other.
When humans experience trauma,they go violently in the other
direction, Right, right, andit's a memory that gets burned
into your brain and it startswiring things.
(33:02):
The only way to unwire is toget around someone who can say,
hey, I see where you're hurt,but, trust me, you have to try
it again.
It's a community.
We have to be communities.
I was telling you earlier, likethis rock star, grind culture,
toxic crap, yeah, okay, it hurtspeople, it ruins people Because
(33:31):
it tells you put your head down, go to work.
If you're not making money,work harder, because obviously
something's wrong with you.
And in a community of people,there's people like me, like you
, like Kenneth, and then saywhat are you doing?
Why are you doing that?
Who are you?
(33:55):
And so Entrepreneur Fight wasdeveloped by myself and my
brother, ethan, was also a bigpart of it and we wanted a
community to exist solely forentrepreneurs.
There's a platform that we'vebeen developing and working on.
It's basically there, but whatit is?
I call it a social learningnetwork.
(34:17):
Oh nice.
So there's a social mediacomponent to we get together
there's.
You know, uh, can you saynewsfeed?
I'm gonna say, anyway, sure,it's like newsfeed.
There's groups, there's socialgroups, there's education.
You know, right now I'm theonly one on there in terms of
the mentor because, you know, noone's ever ever invited anybody
yet.
But I made it in a way whereit's like, if you are a mentor
(34:40):
and you have something to offer,come in here Right, like, help
me fight for these youngerversions of ourselves.
You know, we cannot forgetwhere we came from, and the
entrepreneurs who forget wherethey came from don't understand
what success is.
So they may have money or somereally cool stuff, but that's
(35:01):
not success in my book.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
So entrepreneurfightcom, by the way
, is where you can meet andgreet Ryan Jameson and learn
about his coaching protocol andmaybe create a relationship with
him that could rapidly andlong-term benefit the outcome of
all these efforts.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
My username is FirstFighter87.
Firstfighter87.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Had to come up with one to test it.
So is it an interactive kind ofgroup?
Is it a group setting?
Do people talk to each other onyour website, or is it just for
receiving information?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
That's what it's designed to do.
It's designed to allow peopleto put information out.
If you look at like a Facebookgroup, there's a place where
people can put information outand kind of mingle with each
other.
However, where I feel like theplatform differs is we're able
to create specific groups arounda mentor or around courses or
(35:55):
around content specifically, andit allows us to say, hey, you
know, if you're inside this, ifyou're specifically learning
about how to run the taxes,better right, because I will not
be teaching, by the way.
You know, there's just going tobe a specific group for that.
There's going to be theeducator and other people in
(36:17):
there sharing their experiences,and it's going to really
condense that information downto its most potent form and it's
not going to be drowned out bya bunch of other random stuff.
The random stuff, the fun stuff, the social stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
It has its place over there Right, but not in here.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Right, got it place over there.
Right, this is not in here,right, got it?
Um, and my, my main request andI mean, as as we develop, my
main request of other uh,mentors, course creators and
stuff obviously I need to meetyou first, right, we need to
talk first, for sure.
Um, my main request is I needyou to put out one at least free
(36:54):
course or coaching or teachingsomething, because a large part
of why people struggle withmentorship is that price tag,
right, right.
And so, like I remember, likegoing to visit a mentor and
they're like, yeah, it's likeyou know, eight grand for a
month.
I'm like I have no doubt thatyou're worth it.
None, like I know you're worthit.
Can you teach me how to makethe money for you so I can give
(37:18):
it to you?
And they just looked at me likethey'd never heard of that
concept.
And so Entrepreneur Fight isalso designed to help you earn
the stages, earn the money toget through these places and get
through these things.
It's not enough to say, hey, weknow you need it and this is
what it's worth it needs to be.
(37:38):
Here's how you're going to makethat money to get that first.
Mentor, got it.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Very cool, all right, so now, as we talked about
earlier, you're kind of perfect,perfect, yeah, and you have it
all figured out and you'rewildly successful.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Well, I think the only one who thinks I'm perfect
like if you viewed me from God'seyes, right, or his perspective
, or my daughter, my daughtersthink I'm perfect.
That will be great someday,yeah, Until they're 13.
Right and man, I wish I couldsay I had it all figured out,
(38:19):
but that's why I have a mentor,my mentor Eric.
He has shaped my life in a waythat you can't sit down and
describe.
So I can't say I have it allfigured out, but I did figure
out the most important part.
You can't buy experience, butyou can pay experienced people,
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darrell.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Bock Ooh, I think that's one of those, darrell
Bock.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
That's a quote from Raul.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Jameson, that was my father.
He put that one together.
I totally stole it.
Sorry, dad.
Darrell Bock, oh, now it'syours internet as far.
Yeah, by my metrics I am wildlysuccessful.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
There you go.
Yeah Well, so I know you're aman of faith.
Tell us how your faith and yourbusiness and your philosophies
all intertwine.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
So now this is a really fun one, and I found that
entrepreneurs, who you know,who are believers, have a couple
of very common struggles.
I have to pursue financial gain, but how do I do that without
money becoming my idol?
What's the difference betweengiving God the glory and using
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him as an advertisement orbillboard, and using them as an
advertisement or billboard?
And what I have found as anentrepreneur in my faith system
is I literally I start everymorning intentionally having a
conversation out loud.
The power of speaking out loudis not to be understated.
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I spend my time first in themorning speaking out loud to the
Lord.
I'm saying, hey, let's do this.
Are you ready?
Like obviously he's ready, butyou're ready Like am I ready?
You know, what do you got comingtoday, you know, and I'm just
excited to participate in it.
And I found that if I do thatand I walk, I actively walk in
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my faith, in my life, mybusinesses, my home, my family,
everything follows the way itneeds to, even if it doesn't
look the way I think it should,because you know I have very
strong opinions.
I know that's a surprise to you, that's not surprising to me.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Well, I mean a coach should have some strong opinions
.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
A few.
Yeah, have some opinions thatdon't make a lot of sense and a
man of faith should have someopinions, a few.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, I think that's awesome.
So tell me, before we get intoour final our biz nugget at the
end, our biz bite talk a littlebit about the metrics of
defining success, because Ithink you have a different view
than most people.
You're not a big fan of thework 100 hours a week and avoid
your family.
You're not a fan of success atall costs, and I admire that
(41:03):
about you.
I think success at all costswill cost you.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Success is a word that's been weaponized by people
who sell stuff, and I find itunfortunate, because it's hard
to talk about success withpeople without them immediately
getting an image of a learjet, alamborghini and piles of cash.
Right, and okay, my, mypersonal metric of success I get
(41:34):
to go home to a house everynight, right?
mm-hmm there's people that don'tget that right.
I get to go home to my familysome people that don't have that
.
I have a relationship with myearthly father in a way that
sons dream about having.
You know it's.
(41:56):
It's the kind of relationship Ihope to have with my son.
I get to watch my daughtersgrow up and help hopefully show
them some poor version of what aman should look like.
I get to experience life everyday with my best friend and my
soulmate, my wife.
But all of that stuff aside, Iknow that my eternal future is
(42:31):
secured because I'm redeemed bythe blood of Jesus and nothing
else comes close.
The mere Thank you, the merethought or suggestion of
anything other just feels soempty.
I've had money.
It's not that fun.
I've had nice cars.
What I do now is we get a car,we post it for sale and that's
(42:57):
what I drive, Because everywhereI go I'm advertising a car for
sale.
Right.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (43:04):
But that's my metric for success.
I measure it by the weight ofmy soul.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
That's beautiful man, and the idea that you know, and
I think a lot of us lose this.
I had lost this for a portionof my own time out working and
trying to build and run high andyou know you're who's who in
business but you're who's he athome and that's no way to live
and I must tell that you maythat that good.
(43:35):
That was my life for a whileand I was never really concerned
about you know, some of thephysical stuff.
I'm a beige human and I drive abeige vehicle and the paint on
my house is beige and I likethat middle road where my family
is first.
You know, in my dailyactivities, you know, and I'm
(43:56):
thankful for my faith.
Some people say my faith isfirst.
Well, it kind of becomeseverything.
And then that's the bubble ofyour life.
And then inside that you knownumber one you want to take care
of your family.
Right, that's what we're calledto do.
And then your business sort offollows that and hopefully they
blend.
I mean, we all make mistakes,right?
Speaker 3 (44:17):
oh yeah, you know, like recently I've been working
more hours than usual.
My wife is carrying the water,you know.
But you know, that's that's our, that's our partnership, right,
right.
So you know, shout out to thedomestic engineers um, there
isn't a world where we're goingto do it perfect.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
But the goal is, when my kids look back on my life or
look back at their dad, whenthe people I've interacted with
look back at what I did when Ientered their world and then
exited it entered their worldand then exited it I want the
impression to be that theoverwhelming net effect was good
(45:02):
.
Yes, but I also want them tolook at it and go.
There was something reallysupernaturally different about
that guy.
Yeah, Because I want them to gofind that ultimate success that
I have, you know, the eternalsecurity.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
All right, we are here with Ryan Jamieson.
Ryan is the founder ofEntrepreneurFightcom.
He's a business coach andsomebody that you at least ought
to have a cup of coffee with,because it might turn into a
coaching session, and I lovecoffee and he loves coffee, so
that's a good sign.
Ryan, let's do our end of thestory, business bite, or what do
we call it?
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Oh yeah, the biz bite .
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Oh man, I didn't have the sound effect ready.
I wasn't ready for that Bizbites there it is.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Biz bites All right, do it for you next time.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Biz bites.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
That's pretty good.
Right there, you've got asecond career blooming.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
All right, talk to us .
Just give us a nugget that anentrepreneur could hear and take
with them, and something that Icould use today also.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Right.
I think the most importantthing that I could tell an
entrepreneur today I've had like10 seconds.
Lose the fantasy of being asuperhero entrepreneur.
No one gets there on their ownand you won't either.
You need to find your team, youneed to find your Eric, you
need to find your network, youneed to find your eternal
(46:27):
security and you need to immerseyourself in it.
And your true metric of success.
Whether you know what your truemetric of success is or not,
your true metric of success willshow up for you.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
All right, kenneth, pretty good stuff today, right?
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
All right, we're here with Ryan Jameson,
entrepreneurfightcom.
You can also find him onFacebook and YouTube.
I'm around, he's around.
You can find him onTulsaBongcom.
This very podcast and videowill be on TulsaBongcom
Absolutely and all over YouTubeunder the Cash Flows with Cash
Matthews podcast.
(47:05):
So I think that's going to be awrap for today.
We thank you for being here.
This show is designed to helpother people.
It is designed to help you moveforward at your pace and on
your goals and not somebodyelse's, and we love having
coaches that can reallydelineate and talk about finding
your spot.
You know, god knit you together, especially unique in your
(47:28):
mother's womb.
And what a great time to bealive in this world.
Guys, today, as we wrap up,let's think about one thing
Maybe today is a great day to goforgive somebody who absolutely
doesn't deserve it, andforgiveness is rarely about that
other person, but it is aboutyou and having a clear path to
(47:48):
run on, and sometimes thoseanchors that we've attached to
our own belt need to bedismantled and tossed into the
deepest part of the ocean andtherefore you're able to run
free because, after all, you'vebeen forgiven eternally.
Wouldn't it be great to forgivesomebody who's done something
to you.
God bless you all.
Thanks for being here todaywith Cash Flows.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
That's our show for today.
Stay tuned for another rivetingedition of cash flows.
Hello, entrepreneurs, dreamers, business owners and
happy people with high hopes.
Welcome to Cash Flows with yourhost, cash Matthews.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
All right, good morning, happy people, friends
around the country.
We're glad you're here.
I'm Cash Matthews, your hosttoday for another riveting
episode of Cash Flows, and ourguest today is Ryan Jamieson.
We'll introduce him in a minute, but first we want to say hello
to the man behind the lens andthe microphone, mr Kenneth
Bauckham.
Kenneth, good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Good morning, how's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
What are the phrases Like?
If I was any better, I'd betwins.
I never understood that one,but I've had a great day, man,
things are well, and I had agood breakfast with my prayer
group this morning.
Life's pretty good.
Yes, it is.
We're excited to be here.
So welcome to Cash Flowseverybody.
Our philosophy in life ispretty much do things as they
(00:54):
come, and so we call that.
If you see it on the sign backthere fire, aim ready.
And that philosophy is justabout getting started, moving
forward step by step, inch byinch, whatever it takes.
But if you're moving in adirection, move forward towards
your goals, your dreams, youraspirations, and God does not
need to steer a parked car.
(01:14):
And if you're a prayer person,I think there's action involved,
and so we were excited today tobring in a fellow that I am
fond of who talks about takingaction, mr Ryan Jamieson.
Ryan, welcome to Cash Flows.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Thank you, I'm really excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, we'll try to not muck this up for you, but I
know you've got a lot to say Imight be able to do that on my
own too.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
We'll find out.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, we've all got that capacity.
I've watched some of ourouttakes and we've done a few
things.
Ryan, give us just a briefupdate about your career, your
business, why you're here, whatyour business is called.
Give us your elevator pitchhere.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
The elevator pitch.
I like it, yeah, okay.
So basically the elevator pitchis I've been a serial
entrepreneur almost 20 years,grew up in a family of
entrepreneurs and I really justdon't know any other way of
living.
After my time in the militarygot involved in restaurants.
That's where I kind of startedconsulting and it just evolved
from there and this is mycalling.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, so you're one of those guys that will work 80
hours a week.
To avoid working 40 hours aweek, 80 hours a week would be a
vacation.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
If you ask my wife yeah, so give us your family
dynamic.
You're married.
Yes, yes, that's my wife.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So give us your family dynamic.
You're married, yes, yes, very,very blessedly so I have my
wife, kat, and then I have threebeautiful demons children, and
one boy, two girls, and I adorethem very much, and you suspect,
one day they will have watchedDad so often that they too shall
(02:41):
become entrepreneurs.
My son is already actuallyshowing tendencies.
He has been running arounddrawing people pictures and then
giving them to him and askingfor a dollar.
Oh, wow, you have to tell himfirst kid, you have to set the
price first before you give itto him.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But hey, that's a starting point.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
That's a solid pitch, you already have it Well,
that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So you grew up in a family of entrepreneurs.
What kind of businesses did yougrow up around?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So, before I was around or aware, my father
started a lumberyard, and afterthat one went the direction it
went.
He then started studying forhis Series 7, 66, and opened his
own financial firm.
Okay, and that is where Iwatched someone display how to
(03:31):
work hard.
Right, I'm one of six kids.
We were all homeschooled allthe way through high school.
My mom stayed home and shealways had some entrepreneurial
thing going on as well, and shehomeschooled all of us.
Wow, god bless your mom.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Six kids homeschooled , all of us.
Wow, god bless your mom Sixkids homeschooled.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I'm telling you All the way through, all the way
through, all the way through.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So I mean, this is not a homeschool conversation,
but it can be for a minute.
I mean, how do you think thataffected you through your life?
I mean that's a differentvisual not going to public
schools and not that they're badgod bless the teachers but
right, I mean, how did thataffect you visually as you went
forward in life and to become anentrepreneur and to become a
coach of entrepreneurs, right?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I think that, um, it was a gift that I really didn't
understand when I was younger.
Yeah, and having the ability tolook back in hindsight.
Now I really see the gift myparents gave me.
Oh my gosh, it was focused onteaching me how to think right.
I wasn't being taught ortrained on a subject you know.
(04:36):
We were encouraged to learn youknow, two to three instruments.
We were encouraged to play chess.
We were encouraged to go todance lessons on top of all our
regular subjects as well.
My parents really used thatopportunity to teach me how life
operated and how it operated inhigh stakes environments, and
how to think Wow, as a child, Ijust wanted to go play
(05:00):
basketball.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
That was it.
That was it.
And did you ever playbasketball competitively
anywhere?
You're tall.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
No no.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Can you?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
shoot Hoops.
No, nothing happened I respectsports for their economic value
to their geographic locales.
Other than that, go sportyhoops.
They probably did me a favorthere too.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Go sports team.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
But what a great foundation, what a great
upbringing, absolutely.
And then you'll homeschool yourchildren as well.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Right now we are homeschooling just kind of as a
carryover from COVID, and I'mnot sure if that tradition is
going to continue or not.
However, knowing what I knownow, that is definitely going to
change their educationaltrajectory Right For sure.
Yeah, it's a focus on unlockingtheir mind, you know, not just
shuffling them from one grade toanother, if that makes sense,
(05:53):
yeah, yeah, you know we'vepartially homeschooled our
children all their lives at thispoint.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And the things that you talk about, the extra things
writing poetry, learning amusical thing, traveling we call
that world schooling.
I think one of the best thingsyou can do for your kids and
even for your own heart, is togo see how some of the rest of
the world lives.
Go travel absolutely.
Yeah, I mean, if you want to geteducated, you want to find out,
you want to do some Americanhistory and go to India or go to
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some of these places like Haiti, that struggle and we'd be so
thankful to be here in Americaand we've got it good.
But with that, we do have itgood.
Yes, absolutely, and you're outin the entrepreneurial world
now as a coach, and let's talkabout first the name of your
coaching enterprise.
It's called Entrepreneur Fight.
All right, we can find you atentrepreneurfightcom.
That is correct.
(06:42):
All right, tell us aboutEntrepreneur Fight.
Yeah, I mean, just give us thelittle overview of that.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
So a snapshot of Entrepreneur Fight.
It's the brainchild of theentrepreneurial experience from
beginning to at least where I'mat now.
Okay, and it was built with myyounger entrepreneurial self in
mind.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Well, because you know when you start, you
struggle you know, and there's alot that goes into that, and I
remember just wanting someone totake a shot on me, just someone
, like if someone would show upfor like 15 minutes, right, or
be able to answer a questiononce, or twice, a week, and so
that's what Entrepreneur Fightis designed to be is a community
(07:34):
where we all come together asentrepreneurs, we share
experiences, we have educationalresources and it's fairly new.
So we're growing and we'relearning, and I'm hoping to have
other mentors, coaches andeducators join me in the
platform soon.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
That's a great idea.
So what made you decide, though, to be like a direct coach?
I mean, entrepreneur fight's acool thing, right.
But your coaching is moreone-on-one right now with
entrepreneurs.
I mean, okay, so there's a fewcoaches out there, a few, and I
love coaching.
I love the concept of coaching.
I think without it, we'redoomed.
Tell us what made you decide tobe a coach.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I kind of fell into that by accident.
I'm not like to be perfectlyfrank.
I fell into it.
I had, after I got out of themilitary, I started in
restaurants because it was, likeyou know, just taming chaos and
I loved it.
Right and so I got asked bysome other restaurant owners
after I'd had some time, likeyou know, how would they fix
this?
So I kind of did someconsulting and then people just
(08:34):
kept like showing up and askingand I was like all right, well,
hey you know I'm going to chargefor this.
And then I found out that Ireally enjoyed it and kind of
branched out from restaurants toentrepreneurs.
And now I do it because I ammildly irritated by the massive
(08:56):
industry that targetsentrepreneurs, specifically
newer ones.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Right.
So you said there's a lot ofcoaches out there.
We said that kind of jokinglyin your intake Do we need more?
Are we short a few?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
No, I don't think we're short a few, that's for
sure I do.
Let's put it this way there isa lot of information out there.
There's a lot of people outthere that say they know
something and they're willing togive it to you.
However, what ends up happeningis they tap you, they use that
(09:33):
whole like address the problem,agitate the problem, make it
worse, make you feel like theycan save you, and they walk off,
essentially in some cases, andso I just became obsessed with
empowering entrepreneurs, likethat's, to help them fight the
odds.
Right, that's my mission,that's who?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I am Okay.
So let's focus on fighting theodds.
I mean, first, we all know theodds of sustaining as an
entrepreneur beyond a few years.
You know a lot of people givethese numbers 80% fail.
I don't know about that, Idon't like to focus on that.
That's too generic for me.
Right?
Because the question anentrepreneur wants to know is
(10:16):
not what the other 40 million do.
What are my odds?
What do I do?
Yeah, what is my chance to gomake it?
So let's talk about the odds.
Tell me about the odds.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So the reason why I focus primarily on startup
through the first three years isbecause that's where the
majority of them struggle, orwhen you're first starting out a
business.
This is where everything is new, right, and so, like some of
the odds they face right, theyface the lack of agile resources
, they face a business creditsystem that can be very
(10:50):
difficult to understand right,and they face a very motivated
pseudo-education industry thatfocuses on them.
And not that there isn't good,you know, there's obviously good
resources and there's a lot ofpeople.
I can recommend that I've spenta lot of money on people,
obviously, and, but there's alot of bad actors out there too.
(11:13):
And when you're new, how canyou tell the difference?
Right, how?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
do you differentiate?
So what, then, is thedifference between and I think
this is an important question,yeah, and I think I have you
pigeonholed into one more ofthese.
There are a lot of coaches,yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And there are a lot of great coaches.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Absolutely I love some of these people, but then
there's also this role of mentor, yeah, and I know a little bit
about you.
I know you're a coach, but Ialso see you as a mentor to some
people, and I think that's amuch deeper relationship, one
that you know it definitelyprobably has a lot longer
(11:50):
timeline, regardless of themoney.
Yeah, talk to us aboutmentorship.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
So the difference I see between mentorship and
coaching coaching is essentiallywhere you take someone where
they're at you, assess theirindividual situation there, you
go Right and then you work withthat situation.
Specifically, a mentor issomeone who comes alongside you,
(12:15):
gets to know you as anindividual and works with you
based on how you're built as aperson, and I learned that from
my mentor.
It's not uncommon for my mentorto be just announced out of
nowhere.
Don't do that, ryan.
How?
did you know, don't do that.
(12:37):
I don't like people to know melike that?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Can a coach be your mentor?
Is that a different role?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I think, to a certain degree, yes and no.
So, for instance, like in thebeginning again the startup the
first three years it's difficultto find a resource that is one
accessible and two able to workwith you in a variety of roles
without encumbering you with avariety of different systems.
So, yes, I think coaches can bementors, but only in a very
(13:07):
specific time period in yourbusiness.
Those roles definitely need tobe separated and, just on
average, I found it's around thetwo to three-year mark Right.
My goal is to get them awayfrom me as soon as possible.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
So you and I have been part of the same pretty
large group of networking peoplehere in this community over
7,000 people Love it too.
And the majority of those areunder three years.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And you're finding, and those numbers I mentioned, x
number of people fail in thefirst three to five years.
And that's true.
Yes, but you're working in thatworld to change that end result
.
Yes, but you're working in thatworld to change that end result
.
Is there one common thing thatthose entrepreneurs face on a
daily or monthly basis?
Yes, yeah, what is that thing?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Entrepreneurs have been told or sold what to think
from day one.
Oh, okay, Expand on this for aminute.
Yeah, absolutely no-transcript.
(14:36):
Get to know themselves and howto work with themselves and how
to think through their ownprocesses and how to use those
processes of who you are and theway you're built in your
business.
You get so much further.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
And probably quicker as well, oh yeah, and it stays
longer.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
It has staying power because you're not on some sort
of self-explorative journey atthe same time.
As you know, like like I always, this is a very industry piece
of industry piece of advice, Iknow, but I always tell
entrepreneurs, especially newones, don't go on a journey of
self-discovery when you'restarting a business.
You need to start a business.
(15:16):
Who you are, you need to knowwho you are.
You need to deal with it as theway you are, because if you go
in and you start changingyourself, okay, I mean and again
, self-improvement's great, butif you start changing who you
are as you're starting a newbusiness, that business will
never go anywhere because itdoesn't have an identity,
because you don't have one right.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So, and by the time they've started some
entrepreneurial endeavor,presumably they've already found
themselves or discoveredthemselves.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
That would be the hope you would be surprised.
Knowing what you do, youprobably wouldn't be surprised,
but there's a lot that don'teven know.
It's a thing.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Well, there are active entrepreneurs.
I knew I was going to be anentrepreneur from the time I was
eight.
It never occurred to me thatI'd ever have a job Right, so I
was an active entrepreneur, itwas just going to happen.
But we also find there are lotsof reactive entrepreneurs.
I lost a job, a spouse, anopportunity, something happened,
I had an illness, and they findthemselves being so.
(16:17):
Those are more reactiveentrepreneurs.
Can you work with both sides ofthat?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, so as a coach, slash, mentor or within the
program or platform itself, thegoal is to find out where you
are and give you what you needto move to the next step, to
where I can.
Again, I know the way thissounds, but my goal is to hand
you off to someone as quickly aspossible Right.
(16:43):
Hand you off to someone asquickly as possible Right,
because the world that I'm in,the place that these
entrepreneurs are typically inwhen I work with them, is
chaotic.
It's confusing, there's a lotof fear.
I mean, like you don't want toadmit it when you're new.
You gotta drive the car and youdon't have the I'm doing great,
and inside you're like wantingto puke because you don't have
to make payroll.
(17:03):
So it's, and I know what.
So it's an interesting position, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
So moving forward.
I mean, let's talk for a secondjust about coaching in general,
because I am a coaching fan.
I believe in it 100%.
If you're doing it like, ifyou're acting as a coach man, I
think that's a worthy position.
I love athletics.
I'm a golfer.
I was a bicycle racer.
You know I've managed things.
(17:33):
What a way to.
I was a bicycle racer.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
You know I've managed things.
What a way to put that bicycleracer.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And I've managed stuff for some Olympians, you
know, and I get to seeperformance at a high level.
I was able to perform for awhile at a high level.
I'm a big fan of golf.
Favorite golfer is JackNicklaus.
Every January, even when healready had climbed the mountain
, would go back to his coachevery year and say, hey, teach
(17:59):
me to play golf, start from thebeginnings.
And guys like Tiger Woods andJohn Elway people that I have
favorite I don't have favoritewith them, but that are athletes
that I follow.
And Larry Bird man, they give alot of Michael Jordan give a
lot of credit to the coachingthey received on the way up.
And there are so many of usentrepreneurs that we aspire and
(18:20):
I'll just call it the rock starlevel.
You know, we aspire to thisrock star level of life.
We want to make it big, but wedon't want to do the things that
the rock star level of peopledo.
And the one thing that they allhave in common is they have a
coach.
Yes, I love watching some ofthe like the hard rock band.
I love all kinds of music, butyou see one of the guys that's
(18:42):
in, you know some death metaldeal, but when they talk to him
as a human not the stage guy,but as a human he'll say man.
My fifth grade music teacherright taught me how to play
cello there was this catalystmoment?
Yeah, and I think coachesrecognize in others things that
those others only imagine to betrue about themselves, and so I
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salute the coaches.
Man, I have been coached and weall have a what's the?
Right word.
I guess we all have a blindspot, Kenneth.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
So bias, bias, blindness is what I call it.
Yeah, you can't see what's youknow, even even as a coach right
, I have a mentor.
Yeah, absolutely you have tohave one Right, and there'll be
times where I'm like I do notunderstand why this isn't
working and my mentor will belike because you know you
shouldn't do it like that, youtell your people not to do it
(19:35):
like that.
I'm like oh, am I doing itbackwards?
And he goes yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I'm like oh Well, we can't see what we can't see, we
don't know what we don't know.
Right, and to have that extraset of eyes to have another set
of eyes and I don't know.
I think people get caught up onthe price, worrying about paying
somebody, and the last coach wevisited with our topic was hey,
(19:59):
the cost of having a coach is X, but you ought to see the cost
of not having a coach If you'repursuing a dream or a vision or
a plan, and having that extraset of eyeballs it's worth 10x
easy in my brain.
So, very cool, we're going totake a quick break and say thank
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Speaker 1 (20:23):
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Speaker 2 (20:49):
All right, thank you for that, sir.
We're glad to have MFP as asponsor and we're here today
with Ryan Jamieson.
You can find Ryan on the web atentrepreneurfightcom.
You'll have to Google how tospell entrepreneur.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Still use spell check .
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, entrepreneurfightcom and Ryan
Jamieson is a coach forentrepreneurs and we're talking
today about those first threeyears of business and how
critical that is as anentrepreneur usually a newer
entrepreneur or a new endeavor.
So let's segue out of that andI understand your mission and I
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admire it and I support it 100%.
Well, thank you, but we have toask the question that our
listeners and viewers are askingand why you?
Why me?
Yeah, let's talk about you fora second.
Why not some other coach?
Why not some other method?
Can't we just go to Dr Googleor find it online?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Go to University of YouTube.
Yes, the University of YouTube.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
That's a new one.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
You know, I know that I'm not sure that's the thing
it's like.
I know that usually there'ssome sort of spiel we're
supposed to launch into ascoaches Like you can believe me.
You know, I just never got that,but here's what I can tell you.
I remember what it felt like.
I remember it being confusing.
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I remember it being confusing.
I remember the fear I rememberhaving.
I remember standing on theporch of my house asking myself
how do I tell my wife that Ican't pay any of these bills?
I remember that with a vividly,and that is what formed me as
(22:44):
an entrepreneur.
And so, as a coach, I'm reallydoing this for me.
I'm doing this for the youngerme, for the younger
entrepreneurs.
Now, obviously, I can't go backin time, but so I'm, I'm, I'm
going back for the others togive them what I was just dying
(23:05):
for, right, you know.
So I'm not saying I'm the bestcoach out there probably far
from it but what I, what I, whatI am is, I'm coming back for
you and I'll give you what Ihave and I'll tell you what I
know, and I will get you to thenext expert that I can get you
to, and so that's why me.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Well, I think that's a great answer.
I noticed recently you hadstated a goal publicly, like
just during this year you wantto meet a hundred new
entrepreneurs face to face forcoffee and I always felt like
and I've met with you a fewtimes and I always enjoy our
time together.
But I think those moments, just,I think the first coaching
(23:48):
event for everybody is when yousit down to have coffee and they
, they have that moment wherethey become themselves around
you.
You know, the bravado might begone and that may take two
visits, but you know, I thinkthere's, I think there's a very
subtle thing.
I mean there, do you find avalue in these one-on-ones that
we do out for coffee, you know,or do people open up to you?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I have a very selfish reason for doing one-on-ones.
Okay, let's do do dish.
Um, as you stated earlier, alarge number of the people in in
the group the bong are in theirfirst one to three.
And it's easy because you I ownanother company with my brother
(24:32):
.
I'm lucky, I'm so blessed towork with my family, and it's
easy to get into life and intobusiness and forget where you
came from, and it's easy toforget the people that need you,
right?
And so I do these one-on-onesone because these are my people
(24:56):
right, this is what.
I'm born to do.
This is who I, this is what Iam born to do.
But you can't do what you'reborn to do if you get get
disconnected from it.
So, yeah, I sit down and wehave a one-on-ones, and there'll
be a few, and I've actually,I've actually, I've actually
told a few people that I've metthis.
I'm like, hey, so I have aproblem.
(25:19):
And they're like what's that?
I'm like I tend to kind of turnthese things into coaching
sessions, and then I never shutup and they're like, oh, okay,
but by the end of it it'susually something along the
lines of like you know, thankyou, okay, but by the end of it
it's usually something along thelines of like, you know, thank
you, and it's a common practiceto post a picture, you know, in
(25:41):
the bong afterwards.
And I started forgetting to dothat.
And then I in my world, right,what I teach is something like
we don't do things on accident.
There's a subconscious reason.
So I went on that explorationjourney and what I realized was
if people know that I do theseone-on-ones and they know that
(26:02):
they end up turning intocoaching sessions of some sort,
putting them out there on theInternet saying, hey, they met
with a business coach may not bewhat they want.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
What they need or what works for them.
So you think there's some kindof social stigma that people
might have if you're workingwith a coach?
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Especially in this one-to-three meeting with a
coach, I have found to be verystigmatized Wow.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
My name is Cash Matthews.
I've been in business 42 yearsand I've used a coach for about
35 of them, and I still do today, and without my coaching team
and mentors, this thing that hasworked for us would not have
worked nearly as well.
I love flying places to getcoaching.
Three or four times a year I'llbe gone for three or four days
(26:49):
to go, sit with a notepad andhumility, Right and just learn.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I mean, like you know , you spend money on this stuff,
right, of course, but well intothe six figures I've spent on
education for myself.
Oh yeah, I'm investing in meright.
Right, this is not a game whereI get to be like I guess this
is the right thing, right?
Do I really want to go home tomy wife and kids be like hey, I
guessed I did.
(27:13):
Okay, I don't know, it's fine,you know.
So, yeah, no, it's uh.
I will have a mentor until theday I die?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
yeah for sure.
And you, uh, you wouldn't go toa doctor that didn't get
continuing education.
Oh not, yeah, I mean you.
You want no, it's not a purposeyou want these professionals in
your life to be coached.
Yeah, you know, and you needthat's a tough one to go to
somebody and go hey, where'd you?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
learn all.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It's on purpose you want these professionals in your
life to be coached?
Yeah, you know, and you need.
That's a tough one to go tosomebody and go hey, where'd you
learn all this?
Like, eh, you know the YouTube.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, the YouTube, I got it in school.
TikTok.
It's well, you can always tellthis is a litmus test, right?
You can always tell someone whois a good coach or mentor if
they talk about their failures,if they talk about their
mistakes, the things they didwrong, how to avoid these things
(28:03):
and how to leave them.
So my mentor, eric and I dreadthis day.
There's a day where he's goingto send me out the door, right,
and I really don't want that tohappen, right.
But he knows there's a time andso do I.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Time to move on.
Yeah, I think we're called todo that.
You know time to move on, moveup, and you know, but that's, I
think, that moment.
Even when a coach like youmoves on and moves up, it's to
the next better thing.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yes, yes, I have to continue.
I have to continue betteringmyself because there's more I
need to know.
And yes, because I want tobetter myself, but because I
want to be better for the peopleI work with.
Yeah, you know, my mission isto work with them, so why would
(28:56):
I subject?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
myself to.
Ignorance isn't the right word,but why would I allow myself to
get dull?
Yeah for sure.
Yeah, that's a.
People want a rock starlifestyle, but they have a g
cord mentality and they've.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
They've learned one little part of it and I hate
that rock star lifestyle thinghey, I have a whole other rock
star lifestyle story.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I'll tell you off the air, but you know I.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I think what you said there about a coach sharing
their failures.
I think that is so beautifuland brutal and we're going to do
a podcast on my failures.
It'll be 372 hours for episodeone Can.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I come listen and watch In a 10-session series.
Yeah, it's a really big memorycard we record that, yeah,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
But I mean, you don't learn from succeeding, right,
you observe from succeeding, oh,do this, do this, do this.
But man, it's the failures thatreally burn.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I mean, Fail fast, fail often.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, learn, but move forward, stumble forward.
Right, you know that's beenfalling forward.
Yeah, I'm just a stumbleforward guy and I and I don't
know if I learned that from acoach or just from practical
application and somebody when Ifirst started said man, try to
get one percent better a monthand then in five years you're 50
better.
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Then I'm like, well, what if Icould get one percent better a
week, or two percent better aweek?
And now that I have been inthis realm for 42 years, I think
anybody can get better 2% aweek.
Yeah, that's entirely possibleby what you read, what you
listen to.
Turn the TV off, shut offsocial media, get a coach, write
down.
I mean just some of the basicsthat I think all three of us
(30:31):
take for granted.
But I think anybody can get 2%better a week and I think they
can do that a hundred weeks in arow and all of a sudden they go
from.
You know starting income, youknow we have a.
We have a person in our bondgroup.
I don't want to say who theyare, but they started their
business like two weeks beforecoming to the first bond event.
They've been coming now for twoyears.
(30:53):
Income first year 14 000.
They're just getting going likeit was tough and we don't know
what we're doing.
Uh.
Income second year I gotta makesure I get this right 95 000.
yes, I'm sorry, yeah, I'm thereIncome for this year 2024, on
track for $165,000.
(31:14):
That's freaking fantastic.
No college degree and if youmeasure this person's life
against yours, you would saythat they've had some more
challenges.
And here this person is like,yeah, I've got some challenges,
they're over here, but myfuture's over here.
And I love those stories.
Man, like I'll listen to thatstory all day, every day,
(31:39):
because you know they aren'tsupposed to fly, but they do,
yeah, and they often fly thefurthest.
And people, you know what if Ifail?
Well, what if I fly?
You know what if it works?
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Well, I tell people all the time, like you are in
the best country in the world tofail.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, like you know in other countries, if you fail,
like okay, you're going tostarve in the gutter now.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Possibly.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Here it's like all right.
Well, you know, if you have to,you declare bankruptcy and you
go to the in some cases like thegovernment programs and make
sure you eat and then you getback on the horse.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
You know this is a great country to fail in, you
know, and this is a great cityto be in for business.
Honestly, Absolutely, I'vemoved here for Tulsa's economy
7,000 plus members.
And if any of you is hungry orhomeless you can come live with
me and I'll feed you.
And there's hundreds of us withthat thing in our world.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
I love teaching people skills and trades and
stuff, so I'm always down to dothat too Well, so let's talk
about Entrepreneur Fight.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I want to hear about that.
What is it?
How does it work?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
So Entrepreneur Fight , like I said, is the brainchild
.
It's the culmination of aseries of experiences that went
one direction or the other.
When humans experience trauma,they go violently in the other
direction, Right, right, andit's a memory that gets burned
into your brain and it startswiring things.
(33:02):
The only way to unwire is toget around someone who can say,
hey, I see where you're hurt,but, trust me, you have to try
it again.
It's a community.
We have to be communities.
I was telling you earlier, likethis rock star, grind culture,
toxic crap, yeah, okay, it hurtspeople, it ruins people Because
(33:31):
it tells you put your head down, go to work.
If you're not making money,work harder, because obviously
something's wrong with you.
And in a community of people,there's people like me, like you
, like Kenneth, and then saywhat are you doing?
Why are you doing that?
Who are you?
(33:55):
And so Entrepreneur Fight wasdeveloped by myself and my
brother, ethan, was also a bigpart of it and we wanted a
community to exist solely forentrepreneurs.
There's a platform that we'vebeen developing and working on.
It's basically there, but whatit is?
I call it a social learningnetwork.
(34:17):
Oh nice.
So there's a social mediacomponent to we get together
there's.
You know, uh, can you saynewsfeed?
I'm gonna say, anyway, sure,it's like newsfeed.
There's groups, there's socialgroups, there's education.
You know, right now I'm theonly one on there in terms of
the mentor because, you know, noone's ever ever invited anybody
yet.
But I made it in a way whereit's like, if you are a mentor
(34:40):
and you have something to offer,come in here Right, like, help
me fight for these youngerversions of ourselves.
You know, we cannot forgetwhere we came from, and the
entrepreneurs who forget wherethey came from don't understand
what success is.
So they may have money or somereally cool stuff, but that's
(35:01):
not success in my book.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
So entrepreneurfightcom, by the way
, is where you can meet andgreet Ryan Jameson and learn
about his coaching protocol andmaybe create a relationship with
him that could rapidly andlong-term benefit the outcome of
all these efforts.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
My username is FirstFighter87.
Firstfighter87.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Had to come up with one to test it.
So is it an interactive kind ofgroup?
Is it a group setting?
Do people talk to each other onyour website, or is it just for
receiving information?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
That's what it's designed to do.
It's designed to allow peopleto put information out.
If you look at like a Facebookgroup, there's a place where
people can put information outand kind of mingle with each
other.
However, where I feel like theplatform differs is we're able
to create specific groups arounda mentor or around courses or
(35:55):
around content specifically, andit allows us to say, hey, you
know, if you're inside this, ifyou're specifically learning
about how to run the taxes,better right, because I will not
be teaching, by the way.
You know, there's just going tobe a specific group for that.
There's going to be theeducator and other people in
(36:17):
there sharing their experiences,and it's going to really
condense that information downto its most potent form and it's
not going to be drowned out bya bunch of other random stuff.
The random stuff, the fun stuff, the social stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
It has its place over there Right, but not in here.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Right, got it place over there.
Right, this is not in here,right, got it?
Um, and my, my main request andI mean, as as we develop, my
main request of other uh,mentors, course creators and
stuff obviously I need to meetyou first, right, we need to
talk first, for sure.
Um, my main request is I needyou to put out one at least free
(36:54):
course or coaching or teachingsomething, because a large part
of why people struggle withmentorship is that price tag,
right, right.
And so, like I remember, likegoing to visit a mentor and
they're like, yeah, it's likeyou know, eight grand for a
month.
I'm like I have no doubt thatyou're worth it.
None, like I know you're worthit.
Can you teach me how to makethe money for you so I can give
(37:18):
it to you?
And they just looked at me likethey'd never heard of that
concept.
And so Entrepreneur Fight isalso designed to help you earn
the stages, earn the money toget through these places and get
through these things.
It's not enough to say, hey, weknow you need it and this is
what it's worth it needs to be.
(37:38):
Here's how you're going to makethat money to get that first.
Mentor, got it.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Very cool, all right, so now, as we talked about
earlier, you're kind of perfect,perfect, yeah, and you have it
all figured out and you'rewildly successful.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Well, I think the only one who thinks I'm perfect
like if you viewed me from God'seyes, right, or his perspective
, or my daughter, my daughtersthink I'm perfect.
That will be great someday,yeah, Until they're 13.
Right and man, I wish I couldsay I had it all figured out,
(38:19):
but that's why I have a mentor,my mentor Eric.
He has shaped my life in a waythat you can't sit down and
describe.
So I can't say I have it allfigured out, but I did figure
out the most important part.
You can't buy experience, butyou can pay experienced people,
(38:41):
darrell.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Bock Ooh, I think that's one of those, darrell
Bock.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
That's a quote from Raul.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Jameson, that was my father.
He put that one together.
I totally stole it.
Sorry, dad.
Darrell Bock, oh, now it'syours internet as far.
Yeah, by my metrics I am wildlysuccessful.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
There you go.
Yeah Well, so I know you're aman of faith.
Tell us how your faith and yourbusiness and your philosophies
all intertwine.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
So now this is a really fun one, and I found that
entrepreneurs, who you know,who are believers, have a couple
of very common struggles.
I have to pursue financial gain, but how do I do that without
money becoming my idol?
What's the difference betweengiving God the glory and using
(39:31):
him as an advertisement orbillboard, and using them as an
advertisement or billboard?
And what I have found as anentrepreneur in my faith system
is I literally I start everymorning intentionally having a
conversation out loud.
The power of speaking out loudis not to be understated.
(39:52):
I spend my time first in themorning speaking out loud to the
Lord.
I'm saying, hey, let's do this.
Are you ready?
Like obviously he's ready, butyou're ready Like am I ready?
You know, what do you got comingtoday, you know, and I'm just
excited to participate in it.
And I found that if I do thatand I walk, I actively walk in
(40:15):
my faith, in my life, mybusinesses, my home, my family,
everything follows the way itneeds to, even if it doesn't
look the way I think it should,because you know I have very
strong opinions.
I know that's a surprise to you, that's not surprising to me.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Well, I mean a coach should have some strong opinions
.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
A few.
Yeah, have some opinions thatdon't make a lot of sense and a
man of faith should have someopinions, a few.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, I think that's awesome.
So tell me, before we get intoour final our biz nugget at the
end, our biz bite talk a littlebit about the metrics of
defining success, because Ithink you have a different view
than most people.
You're not a big fan of thework 100 hours a week and avoid
your family.
You're not a fan of success atall costs, and I admire that
(41:03):
about you.
I think success at all costswill cost you.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Success is a word that's been weaponized by people
who sell stuff, and I find itunfortunate, because it's hard
to talk about success withpeople without them immediately
getting an image of a learjet, alamborghini and piles of cash.
Right, and okay, my, mypersonal metric of success I get
(41:34):
to go home to a house everynight, right?
mm-hmm there's people that don'tget that right.
I get to go home to my familysome people that don't have that
.
I have a relationship with myearthly father in a way that
sons dream about having.
You know it's.
(41:56):
It's the kind of relationship Ihope to have with my son.
I get to watch my daughtersgrow up and help hopefully show
them some poor version of what aman should look like.
I get to experience life everyday with my best friend and my
soulmate, my wife.
But all of that stuff aside, Iknow that my eternal future is
(42:31):
secured because I'm redeemed bythe blood of Jesus and nothing
else comes close.
The mere Thank you, the merethought or suggestion of
anything other just feels soempty.
I've had money.
It's not that fun.
I've had nice cars.
What I do now is we get a car,we post it for sale and that's
(42:57):
what I drive, Because everywhereI go I'm advertising a car for
sale.
Right.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (43:04):
But that's my metric for success.
I measure it by the weight ofmy soul.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
That's beautiful man, and the idea that you know, and
I think a lot of us lose this.
I had lost this for a portionof my own time out working and
trying to build and run high andyou know you're who's who in
business but you're who's he athome and that's no way to live
and I must tell that you maythat that good.
(43:35):
That was my life for a whileand I was never really concerned
about you know, some of thephysical stuff.
I'm a beige human and I drive abeige vehicle and the paint on
my house is beige and I likethat middle road where my family
is first.
You know, in my dailyactivities, you know, and I'm
(43:56):
thankful for my faith.
Some people say my faith isfirst.
Well, it kind of becomeseverything.
And then that's the bubble ofyour life.
And then inside that you knownumber one you want to take care
of your family.
Right, that's what we're calledto do.
And then your business sort offollows that and hopefully they
blend.
I mean, we all make mistakes,right?
Speaker 3 (44:17):
oh yeah, you know, like recently I've been working
more hours than usual.
My wife is carrying the water,you know.
But you know, that's that's our, that's our partnership, right,
right.
So you know, shout out to thedomestic engineers um, there
isn't a world where we're goingto do it perfect.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
But the goal is, when my kids look back on my life or
look back at their dad, whenthe people I've interacted with
look back at what I did when Ientered their world and then
exited it entered their worldand then exited it I want the
impression to be that theoverwhelming net effect was good
(45:02):
.
Yes, but I also want them tolook at it and go.
There was something reallysupernaturally different about
that guy.
Yeah, Because I want them to gofind that ultimate success that
I have, you know, the eternalsecurity.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
All right, we are here with Ryan Jamieson.
Ryan is the founder ofEntrepreneurFightcom.
He's a business coach andsomebody that you at least ought
to have a cup of coffee with,because it might turn into a
coaching session, and I lovecoffee and he loves coffee, so
that's a good sign.
Ryan, let's do our end of thestory, business bite, or what do
we call it?
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Oh yeah, the biz bite .
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Oh man, I didn't have the sound effect ready.
I wasn't ready for that Bizbites there it is.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Biz bites All right, do it for you next time.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Biz bites.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
That's pretty good.
Right there, you've got asecond career blooming.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
All right, talk to us .
Just give us a nugget that anentrepreneur could hear and take
with them, and something that Icould use today also.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Right.
I think the most importantthing that I could tell an
entrepreneur today I've had like10 seconds.
Lose the fantasy of being asuperhero entrepreneur.
No one gets there on their ownand you won't either.
You need to find your team, youneed to find your Eric, you
need to find your network, youneed to find your eternal
(46:27):
security and you need to immerseyourself in it.
And your true metric of success.
Whether you know what your truemetric of success is or not,
your true metric of success willshow up for you.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
All right, kenneth, pretty good stuff today, right?
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
All right, we're here with Ryan Jameson,
entrepreneurfightcom.
You can also find him onFacebook and YouTube.
I'm around, he's around.
You can find him onTulsaBongcom.
This very podcast and videowill be on TulsaBongcom
Absolutely and all over YouTubeunder the Cash Flows with Cash
Matthews podcast.
(47:05):
So I think that's going to be awrap for today.
We thank you for being here.
This show is designed to helpother people.
It is designed to help you moveforward at your pace and on
your goals and not somebodyelse's, and we love having
coaches that can reallydelineate and talk about finding
your spot.
You know, god knit you together, especially unique in your
(47:28):
mother's womb.
And what a great time to bealive in this world.
Guys, today, as we wrap up,let's think about one thing
Maybe today is a great day to goforgive somebody who absolutely
doesn't deserve it, andforgiveness is rarely about that
other person, but it is aboutyou and having a clear path to
(47:48):
run on, and sometimes thoseanchors that we've attached to
our own belt need to bedismantled and tossed into the
deepest part of the ocean andtherefore you're able to run
free because, after all, you'vebeen forgiven eternally.
Wouldn't it be great to forgivesomebody who's done something
to you.
God bless you all.
Thanks for being here todaywith Cash Flows.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
That's our show for today.
Stay tuned for another rivetingedition of cash flows.
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