November 10, 2022 • 37 mins
In this from-the-bed episode, Cate says "horny" a record number of times in a single podcast and also Erik talks about chemistry and how it led him to the perfect pesto recipe. They discuss how hyperfixations have shaped their past, present and future and set out to share their favorite hyperfixations, but, like most episodes, don't exactly get to the point.
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(00:09):
Hello, Eric, yes. Oh hi, let's make podcast.
Yeah, let's make a podcast righthere and right now everybody, if
you're wondering why our audio sounds this way, it's because
I'm recording this from the guest bedroom because I can't
get out of bed because because Ihurt so much.
(00:32):
And so I set my phone on top of my dog, and this is how we're
making a podcast today. Yeah dude.
Bed podcast, I Parker was the hygiene episode.
It was that was one of our most favorite episodes of all time.
We stopped trying to eat the phones for adults.
Find a stand and sell spot for the probably like right there.
(00:55):
Oh, exhales mode. That's gonna fall down about.
Not if Not if we don't even know.
If we don't even fucking like duct tape, it to the bed
wondering. If all those Creeks are like
vibrating straight to your phone, probably, this is a
really great keypad. It's a great like a weirdly
Creepy Bad creaky bad. It's not creepy about.
(01:16):
It's a creaky bed is different as different thing.
Well you want to talk about fun stuff today.
July, when turbo fun stuff, I thought of a really fun
question, was that? Oh my God, that's my back.
That's not questions. I know, I'm just saying it out
loud. um, top. I don't want to give you a
(01:36):
number top, however, many you feel like saying hyper fixations
/ hyper-focus has never hexose think about, right?
Yeah, because as soon as talkingto my therapist today about the
Christmas, carol thing, the turkey think she was like, I'm
sorry what? And I was like, I had to like,
(01:57):
explain what is the turkey? Well, her new illustrations for
Those of you who may be new to arequest.
One time, I got bored and becamethe world's foremost expert on
the turkey and A Christmas Carol, in a way that changed.
I mean I was I was the person who invented that that was my
(02:20):
idea. I invented that field of
research. Yeah, for those of you that
Google fonts, is it still do it?It does it says infinite questo
nice because I linked it to our website.
Nice, instead of Mike, you have a Google phone say OK, Google.
How big was the turkey in A Christmas?
Carol and then it will just put me on speaker.
And I just did it to all of yourdevices.
Sorry, Alexa play by me Rhapsody, sorry to whoever they
(02:45):
just got. Um, but so is talking about it
and, and like, I don't know, we just had this, like, really good
conversation about how sometimes, like, you know, I
feel like we like shit on. Oh, no, I don't want to speak
for the group, but I feel like, sometimes you can get, like,
frustrated about hyper focuses. And Fixations because like, you
know, at some point they had andthey like, we're off and
whatever. But I just started thinking
(03:07):
about all of the ways in which like, my hyper fixations have
like, genuinely improved my lifeor genuinely change my life.
We're just genuinely become like, really important to me.
And then I started just like I had this, like, just like weird
wave of like, affection towards some of the hyper fixation that
(03:30):
I've had. So, then I got curious about
Like water, what are some of yours?
Like, what are ones that I have been meaningful?
Or, you know, whatever I do? I mean, I think they range from
like, you know, like a Heavy Hitters, you know, like making
stuff out of coffee. Stirrers, that's like, oh also,
I want to point out we've talkedabout this before but as a big
(03:52):
pillow, the way that we Loosely distinguish between hyper-focus
and Hyper fixation as hyper fixation is like a longer term
thing. So if you have like a These
where, you know, you're really into a bookbinding or something
like that that would be a hyper fixation.
Hyper focus is like an instance of that.
Yeah. When you're sitting at the desk
(04:13):
and you like are just fully in the zone and you're like just
doing the same thing for 10 straight hours that's in like
hyper-focus. Yeah.
So let me except, I think the biggest type of fixations in the
make a Heavy Hitters makes abouta coffee service for sure.
And, you know, like bread, but the smaller ones like the
little, the ones little speckledegg won't.
Like weird ones. Yeah.
(04:34):
Extracting clay from the ground.That's about.
That was a great one. I used to do a thing called
dorodango. I told you about that.
Yeah, they will subdue these little shiny mud balls.
So basically you get dirt and you refine it in such a way that
you can make like a little ball and then use more dirt to like
(04:54):
make the outside finer and fineruntil it's eventually, like the
shiny little mud ball. They're called door.
Oh, balls dor. Oh balls.
Taro Dango anywho that was a really hard at 11.
And I also think about a lot about how like, a good use of
like hyper fixations is. You might forget like a lot of
(05:16):
the stuff that you learned or did or whatever, but it's still
kind of in there around. Yeah, and it really broadens
like your guests, it broadens the ways in which you can find
things. Interesting.
Which I think is cool because ifyou have like a week where
you're really into Texture and then stop giving a shit.
It's not like you have to be cut.
You your that's like you failed because you didn't become an
(05:38):
architect. Like it's cool now.
You walked out morning, when youwalk down the street, you can be
like, oh, that's called a pediment or those are called
dentals because they look, like teeth or whatever it is.
But I like the way that they sort of in they plan to each
other, like, when I was in, I think eighth grade.
I was, I had like this weekend where I was obsessed with trying
to get elemental, sodium, how doyou do that?
(06:02):
Well basically, the way you do it is you melt sodium, chloride
table, salt and melt sulf, your mouth.
Literally anything. Yeah.
What I thought was just like, catch on fire?
Yeah, I met Eric. I'm going to science.
(06:29):
Meltzer. Oh yes, he melts.
So important. Don't try this at home.
You can't do it home, the temperatures you need are too
high and it's just not going to happen, but don't throw this
away. That's like going out of the
kitchen. It's really hard to melt salt
and then run a strong electric current through it, which for
some reason, makes the chlorine unbond with the Sodium, which
(06:52):
then turns into gas and then yougot chlorine gas.
Switch will fucking kill you. Oh Jesus.
Oh, don't trust the decision that you were like this is the
thing I'm going to do this. Won't because Elemental.
Sodium. Katie and dear listener is
what's called an Alkali metal. There are a couple of them, I
can't remember. Potassium sodium.
(07:13):
Something else? I know go.
No, I don't know. I just think the name is silver,
but this bed is so cranky. Well, what makes Collide Metals
Katie is that the alkali metals motherfucking explode when they
(07:34):
come in contact with water? What are you trying to blow shit
up? Be honest, yeah, I'm kind of
such a teenage boy, you know. Interesting.
So sodium basically. It splits the water because it
wants to tries to bond with the hydrogen and or tries to bond
with the oxygen. And so it flings the hydrogen,
(07:57):
just into the air, which createsa big ball of hydrogen gas.
And the reaction itself is endothermic, which means it's
produces heat and it produces somuch of that heat that it's able
to ignite the hydrogen so it explodes.
So anyways I wanted some of that.
And I felt, but I did learn a lot about the alkali metals is
(08:18):
when I was 13. Now, the reason I bring this up
is because sodium metal is so reactive with water, that it can
even react with the water in theair.
So just sitting on the table, itcould just explode because it
comes in contact with a water droplet or something.
(08:39):
So, how do you store this stuff?If you need it to not, come in
contact, even with the outside. Arkady, how do you do that in
class? No, well, I mean, you could
store it in a vacuum, but what'sthe most efficient way of doing?
It is to store it in oil, certain mineral oil.
Sure. Because water can pass through
and it keeps it light coating hitters.
Yeah, like computers. Usually, you can put your
(08:59):
computer, don't, please don't try this at home and then sue
us. But one time, Eric told me that
you can submerge your computer in mineral oil and it will still
work. No, it's nothing apparently
people do because you can mine. Cool.
The oil and it like it's a thing.
Yeah, I mean I imagine it soundsfake, it sounds like something
that like some troll would put on like Tumblr.
(09:22):
So, like people, you know, how it's always like, every year,
there's like some asshole who's like, hey, just a reminder.
You don't have to defrost your church key before you deep fry.
It just like, people, like explode, their turkeys.
Did, you know if you hold a diamond pickaxe and look at lava
in Minecraft and press Q, it turns it into another right
pickaxe. Did you know that it Don't you
(09:43):
just throw it in the lava but he'll I also changed my
hockey's. So, did you?
Yeah, because you're pressing Q by accident.
Thank you accident, throwing my shit.
Baba, there's a pro-gamer move right, you know, such as I said,
oh, it's X. I have to hit the X key because
it means that I'm getting rid ofmixing like economic sense.
Yeah. But so sodium, they store it in
(10:04):
mineral oil to stop it from coming in contact with the air
and well, the moisture in the air but the outsider.
So 13 years later. I'm a cook in a restaurant.
I'm making basil. Pesto basil, basil.
I'm so excited to see where thisgoes.
These are Lister. I have no idea where this is
(10:24):
basil. Oxidizes really fast or
Persinger. I have to move, I know, but it's
gonna make a bunch of noise. I can't feel my leg.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry listeners, we're doing
the best we can today. I'm really having a hard time
(10:47):
basil pesto. I'm making basil, pesto basil
oxidizes very quickly. And when you're making basil,
pesto for like a nice restaurant, you want it to look
really nice. You put it in mineral oil well
so yeah it all rights. Yeah.
Well so it the process is basically if you blanch basil
really quickly it turns like a vibrant green but the second it
(11:08):
you like start working with it in.
Chopping it up or whatever you're doing it starts oxidize
and turn like a brownish, darkish greenish, bullshit
color. And so I was like, wait a
minute, what if right after you blanch them immediately toss
them in oil and then worked withthem from their to stop.
Because I would say about sodium, I was like, dude, what
if I need something just to not come in contact with the air?
(11:31):
What's the easiest way to do that balancing?
Well, we'll try tossing them, really well and neutral cooking
oil and it totally fucking work.That's amazing.
I remember being very proud in front of my boss at the time.
Nick and he asked me was like and I told him what I just told
you about Saudi early prep chef and he was like we're in the
(11:54):
we'd stop talking. We were you telling me about
Saudi Arabia is because I got hyper focused on making
Elemental sodium when I was 13 and even though I failed to make
Elemental sodium, when I was 13,you know, Apply.
It gave me like context to thinkabout something else later.
That's amazing. I think it's kind of cool.
(12:16):
Is it? It just makes the world more
Vivid and I'm going to kind of cool.
I mean, that's what I love. That's what I love about.
All the hyper fixations that I've ever had is like, I always
say like I don't know what I always always.
Always say, DB power pole, the hip-hop eponymous and my Rhymes
(12:38):
are bottomless. Um, that's like my favorite.
One of my favorite things about just like, you know, hyper
fixations is how, you know, likeyou learned one thing when you
were 13 and then it comes back again when you were, you know,
20 and then it comes back again when you're 27 and 35 or
whatever like I just love That like I think it's absolutely
(12:58):
fascinating and I wish like again, I'm speaking for myself
I'm not speaking for the group but one thing that I've noticed
in my own life is that I tend todevalue my hyper fixations
because I'm like, oh well it's just a hybridization is just
silly or whatever. But it's like nah man, sometimes
those type of fixations like stuff like like they come with
(13:23):
you and you and you carry them with you, you know, during your
life. Um also I just thought of this,
I'm going to do this now. Um but hey, we want we want to
know about yours. We want it.
Dear listener. We want to know about your hyper
fixation. Yes, innocent electronic mail
and I just remembered the password for our email which is
a skit and funiculus podcast.com.
(13:47):
I'm sorry if you emailed us in the past two months because I
definitely forgot the password and I remembered it last night
and so I checked the email there.
Are a bunch of emails that role very nice.
Thanks for sending us emails. I'm sorry, I forgot the
password. There is a question mark that I
forgot. I put in there.
Not going to tell you where hashtag safety first, but you
(14:10):
will know it. No ask it was fuck a stocking
mask at infinite Quest podcast.com.
I was making a game of seeing how long I could watch Eric try
and get a word in edgewise. I had a joke they totally
passed. It was a bad joke but I did my
side. My I have a joke face.
He did. You'd absolutely had felt
(14:30):
intentional at some point. It's like why you're really
stretching this and now I thought that was me.
I was just I was just rolling. Well, another thing with hold
on. I gotta see how long we've been
recording. I have a stopwatch.
What is this part? How long do you think we've been
recording 12 minutes incorrect. Hello 15.
Oh wow. Okay.
Well, 14 minutes and 45 seconds,put the phone down, I was gonna
(14:53):
say some really smart. Look, whole, I'm sitting down
quietly, this is the Silliest way to record a podcast and I
kind of think that it's the bestthing.
Yes, very nice. Just be, it's nice.
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subscribe to our patreon supporter, very important work,
(15:15):
it'll work, we're doing patreon.com slash infinite
Quest. You said it, so I had to, but
when you get kind of good at stuff, I mean you started hobby
you gotta kind of good at it andyou stop when you start another
one in. It kind of good at it and you
stop and start another one. You get kind of you, you're hot,
you get the thing that you're you're practicing is getting
kind of good at stuff. You got pretty good at getting
(15:36):
pretty good at stuff and that's useful as fuck.
Like the amount of times that you're a beginner when you're a
person who has a lot of like sequential Hobbies you're a
beginner all the time like you're always a beginner at
something that you're doing likeright now I'm a beginner at CAD
software. I'm also a big dinner at tiny
cities, killing Tony cities or so.
(15:57):
Soldering aluminum cans together.
Like I'm a beginner at that and once they get caught, when did
your soldering a loop? Yeah.
Together. What?
Ya want to make a? What are you doing in your
office? I want to make a 1/12 scale suit
of armor. Oh shit, I gotta send you that
pattern. Yeah, I forgot.
(16:17):
I'm sorry. It's okay.
Sweetie anytime whenever I'm still doing like an initial
experiment phase where I'm trying to figure out the best
way to go in there because I just want it to look good,
right? Build. 1/4 scale game person
sees. I don't know what that is.
But yeah, the padding that you were.
Oh cool. It's like you know you can make
a lot of really good if you're, hey, if you're an SEO person or
(16:39):
a medieval person, if you're a run Fair person and you're like
oh no I don't want a game some but she costs money moving
blankets dog. Oh yeah, game stand out of
fucking double layer. What's the name like what's the
noun? You're saying gambeson gambeson
GA M bi is 0. NV e.
PE PE gambeson campus. That's a made-up.
(17:01):
My also now I'm having a moment where I feel like I'm probably
saying the wrong word. Oh, but I feel like I feel
fairly confident that that's asked at infinite cost.
Podcast.com. Okay.
Be. That's and years.
Yeah. It's like you're a beginner
constantly. And I think that's really
important. I think I mean I know you know I
harp a lot about like failure practice.
(17:23):
Yeah and I think getting used tothe experience of being In your
and getting used to the experience of failing are
extremely important things to like live a nice human life and
I think as frustrating it is to like spend a bunch of money on
hobbies and like get mad at yourself and you drop them.
Like, that's pretty sweet, you know?
Like I'm very comfortable being a beginner, I mean it's still
(17:46):
uncomfortable but I'm comfortable being uncomfortable.
This is opposite, I'm absolutelyupset.
Your better, are you? Yeah, I fucking hate that part
when it gets So mad like that's why I quit everything cause I'm
like I'm not instantly. Like how you remember the one
time when I was going to play the cello every day for two
weeks, those are really cool week and a half.
(18:06):
And I got mad because I wasn't Yo-Yo Ma by day three.
I was like, she like I'm pushingI'm pushing back.
Sweetheart, push it back on it because like, I'm not saying
that that's not true, like, you're the expert, you're an
experienced, right? But I think a lot of times it's
not, or at least from my perspective, it's not you
getting frustrated that you're not into the amazing and then
quitting. It's just Boredom.
(18:28):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's like we're forgetting.
It was two things. It's because for me, active is
both active and inactive. Wait, did I say active as well?
You did say. It learning learning is both
active and inactive because like, if you're teaching me
something, mmm, horny for learning.
I'm just saying it, I was going to say it.
(18:49):
How it is, Right? Game is Eric, I love it, I love
it. Like, mmmm, teach me stuff all
day long. I fucking love it, I love that
shit, I love that feeling. I Of the brain scratchy's.
I just hmm, teach me stuff, but if I'm teaching myself, I put
such an expectation. I would like such an expectation
on myself to like, instantly getit, you know?
(19:11):
And like I think that's the difference is because when
there's like an act, when it's like Active Learning, what it's
like, I'm injured playing with somebody and I can like ask
questions or like whatever that I'm like, oh hell yeah, you know
what I mean? But if it's like I'm learning by
myself. On the very fast reader.
You know, I watch YouTube videoson 1.75 speed and so, in my head
(19:34):
I should be there. I should have the skill by the
end of the video, that's not howit works.
It's like, you know what I mean?It's like a real-time thing.
Like that's yeah, but like that's the difference for me is
like there's like a like I thinkit's somebody with somebody was
teaching me cello. Like I'd be like fuck.
Yes this is amazing. Like you know show for lessons
every week or whatever Eric stopwatching takes action.
(19:57):
If I guess just the shrimp. Well, there's something else
involved with somebody to like show and there's also what I'm
teaching myself something where I wouldn't say I'm teaching
myself something because that takes away from like the person
on YouTube, who's teaching me, or the person who wrote the
thing that I'm reading, you know, you got roast.
(20:18):
So sorry. I'm sorry.
I interrupted, I just thought ofsomething really gross.
Didn't ya, know what you got roasted today by the
electrician? Oh, did I really yeah.
What do they write? Turn
(20:40):
this fucking piece of shit. Say you like the ocean came over
today, so, you know, but we wentback to look at the lights and
he saw your little like area. Like oh, is your is your husband
in to like prove technology? And I just kind of like because
(21:03):
it's faster and easier and I waslike, oh yeah, you know, that's
really informative technology could I didn't feel like having
the poly conversation with the electrician would just met.
And then he was like, he's like oh, what is he doing?
Like always trips and us His reaction of like this fucking
(21:25):
guys like out in the woods, digging holes and playing in the
mud, but it's a job. It's being like, terminally on
the internet and it was really funny.
Anyway, that's the whole story, but you had to be there.
I was, it was really funny in person but it was funny in
person. Yeah, well, I quit the podcast.
(21:46):
I get to spend the rest of the day with you and he had to
leave. So we who wins.
No. But here quietly for us, I do
think about how much everything hurts, fuck you, man.
No, I hurt. No, I'll wear any where it's
harder, its value, the social opinions of electricians, very
(22:08):
highly, that's impossible. This is great.
If your lectures from you class and ask him, if he'll tell us
what you think about, Eric generally, just roast Eric.
If your electric thanks for us, I also actually, just anybody
Rose to me, I would be amazing. Please ask it.
Infinite Quest. Podcast.com roast.
Eric if you dare Eric, but I don't know if I could roast you.
(22:34):
I feel like I probably could butI just feel like you can write
roast and it can like think muffed up my head.
Your hair is Big cool roasted not got him but I think what I'm
teaching myself, something ruse with what is happening.
I can't I am I get really held up on efficiency and like is
(22:56):
this the most efficient way for me to be learning this?
Yeah, if I'm learning something that like the knowledge doesn't
exist yet for you. No.
Like if I'm trying to make an aluminum can behave in a certain
way like weird stuff then it's just trial and error and yeah
trying to well then it's just feeling as many pots as I can
till I have interest up failing,but if I'm just like doing
(23:19):
research myself, I'm always yeah, I'm kind of obsessed with
like efficiency. Like there are a lot of skills
than I straight-up. Don't have because all the
YouTube videos, teaching, those skills are too long.
Like double speed. Oh no, I mean, even on Devils -
oh, Listen to at least 1 Point 5.
What is, what's the what is an example?
Now, I'm fast like CAD software is for example.
(23:41):
So I have the 3D printer now. And so CAD software is on our
just software's that are made for building like parts and
stuff machine parts and stuff it's usual and like CNC
Machining. Yeah, but if it's a program
where I can sort of jump in and just kind of, go click clack,
click clack, click clack, click clack.
You know I can get decent at it pretty fast but cats are very
(24:03):
complicated. Dated.
There's like all sorts of weird buttons and constraints and
stuff. So the only way to learn it is
to like actually watch some tutorials that are very like
it's very class like you know those like episode 1 is 40
minutes, he's like, here's the basic layout and all the stuff
and it's just like I hate it so much.
I mean, I I bet is probably a very good way of teaching it,
but I hate it, I get frustrated,I don't know.
(24:28):
Now, do you have the thing whereI get really frustrated when You
like you've kind of been doodling, you know, you're like
doodling about and you're like, oh yeah, so like I kind of know
where this button is and I kind of know where this button is
whatever but there's like that weird gray area where you don't
know a lot but you know, a little bit but then you go to
like the intro video and they'relike in, here's the start menu
(24:49):
and you're like fuck already, all this part and then you skip
ahead like five minutes. And then it's something that you
don't know and many of us like go back you like wait I know
this part new understanding longer doing that.
Yeah, it must've heat, but it's like, but it's like, if I
already know it, I am so uninterested in Earning it, but
that it's like, usually sort of like piecemealing.
You're like knowledge together, you know.
Yeah, no, I totally do that all the time.
(25:11):
Yeah, I mean, they're all the time.
I'll my knowledge is about just anything is very rarely like
broad as usually specific. So, like with a given program,
I'm really good at doing this but I have no idea how to do the
rest of it. And I also feel like I do a lot
(25:32):
of things less efficiently because His, I didn't take the
time to, like, watch the whole YouTube video.
I just learned the one part and then like two months later,
like, oh there's a button for that, you know, usually that
takes me an hour and a half but I can just press control
whatever. Great, Eric great.
I feel that way about Photoshop because like, I don't use
(25:53):
Photoshop very much but like thethings that I've used Photoshop
for are like very specific and so, like I'm amazing at making
things look like Get embossed leather book I could do that
really well. Yeah.
How do you do that? It's a slimy, some contrast like
a layer and like burning a layerlike just saw there's a Burnin
(26:14):
Up Burnin but like there's like this whole process here but I
did it. One time for never.
In more is a is our marketing package looked like an antique
leather book and I wanted it to be a boss with never more on the
front for a Christmas show. And so I learned how to do it
and then it was like, it was thesame thing where I was like, oh
there's a process that has like two buttons but I like learn by
hour and a Process, but I'm verygood at it.
(26:38):
No II. Think programs are probably my
most frustrating? Yeah, like learning thing
because it's on the computer like it's not a literal physical
thing is just sitting on the computer.
Like my God hyper-focus. Pretty.
You know, I'm programs were likeyou can naturally learn the next
step. Yeah you know where you get the
dopamine really quickly. So it's like if it's a 3D
(27:00):
modeling software even in the first little bit you are
Remodeling a thing a little bit like that's good.
But we're programs that are likeepic like you know, Maya or
something like that. Where it's like the first is,
did you? Yeah I never did.
I think I took a class or something at one point, what was
your, what was your Maya phase? I is a 3D modelling.
(27:21):
So you cut. Well he's an old-school, I think
Toy Story. One was made on my own when I
worked at the casino and button or if there were these two guys
and Kind of like tossed around making like a comic book slash
game together. And one of the guys, his name
was Jack, I think and feel like it was Jack.
(27:45):
Yes, super good at 3D modeling like just like stupid good at
it. Like one of the best fathers,
but he is Maya. And so I would just thought it
was cool and he would like make these like cool little
characters and like, these little monsters and stuff, and
he would just like, you know, like Senator the group chat or
whatever. And so I just thought it was
(28:05):
like meet. And so I decided that I wanted
to learn how and I very quickly realized it was like real
fucking hard and so that I quit,yeah, the end the end.
Cause a guy who worked at a casino told me about it one
time, that's the whole story I do.
I also inv literacy so much fluency like when somebody knows
a program like nobody's fucking business and not only like can
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they make cool stuff? But they can make cool stuff
efficiently. Yeah and replicate it and change
it in any way. It's like all done properly.
I feel that way about Concepts, like I fucking like, that's what
I like, love learning like cooking stuff from you.
Oh I got Bailey here on me, feellike I should apologize to leave
(28:51):
Billy haircut today. Dear listener and it did not you
what you gave me at least she won't stop.
Squirming was making mashed potatoes, mashed potatoes.
And Bailey ran into the wall because her hair was in her.
So I was like, okay, we have to do something.
Speaking of not, being an expert, I did not watch any
(29:12):
videos about dog grooming and soit just kind of went for it.
And now she looks very chic eyeslike a mohawk situation.
She looks like grommet. She's like, I, it's so cool.
(29:33):
He would like, you know, you like go to like a class or
whatever and some teachers like yeah.
And here's how they made printing presses and 1598.
You know, I just like fucking, oh my God like just like expert
level expertise like needy gritty like oh my God, it's so
good. It's hot.
It's hot. I'll say it as learning a sexy
(29:55):
know. It is I had once worked for /
with a guy. He was a sous chef at a
restaurant was working and he Asa chemist, like, he was working
as a cook, he's got a little turned on between, I think he
was going backwards phds. I don't know.
I'm so horny today. We're talking about learning and
I'm learning. Yes.
It was like I can't fucking movebecause I'm in so much pain and
(30:18):
I'm just like, oh, oh yeah, that's how you change stuff.
Why is the floor of the library slippery?
Katie was, you heard so much? But he was a chemist, which is
great because the culinary worldis Motherfucking full of stuff,
you don't know like every day. There's a million things that
(30:38):
you can learn about in which is amazing but very often you'll
get very dissatisfied answers either because the person
teaching you one doesn't know orthey're like in a rush and you
know it's happy a lot man whatever.
But so like I do you know, Chef might do something and something
(31:00):
to something and you can say like, why did you want that?
Let's say it's sick. Atkins.
It. That's like cool.
That's a useful answer. I know that now and I think is
it. But why the map it's math.
Yeah wasn't probably math, is math.
Will always with you is that math will always eventually fall
down on an assumption? That one plus one equals two
(31:24):
fucking annoying like all of math only works because of those
basic assumptions that like you know why though?
Eric, that's one way. I was asked so many people.
Well it's not an easy question is really difficult question.
I like called like Neil deGrasseTyson.
(31:46):
I mean something might help thing that is like to think it
like one plus one is not that one plus one equals two.
It's that to is the name for thething that you get when you add
1 to 1, Y is 1 1 like what? Like not like the word I don't
care about the word we could. All it people or but like why I,
how is the concept of one. A thing I do I would say given
(32:10):
ratios like one is half of two fucking doesn't help.
I'm like but then I start thinking of it looks like
circles were like one is 360 Degrees, you know?
And then it's like, okay, well then if been like, but then it's
like, OK. Eunice, you know, I started like
completing units in my head and then I just get like yeah, maybe
(32:33):
if you like really good at like,Calculus I don't know what I
think your conceptual geometry will not be able to picture
stuff that's like a fundamental part of.
Maths is thick as picturing stuff.
Yeah. That's the only thing I can do
it with really like efficiently is shapes for some reason.
(32:54):
Like this flat plane shapes picture shapes.
I can't think I can't. Like if you're like picture of
square like I can kind of like I'm aware of the concept of what
a square is but if you were likehey, I need you to make me.
(33:18):
Honestly, like a tutor ground asa really good example because
like a Tudor gown is specifically, like there's like
a triangular portion and then there's like the bodice portions
and there's like the triangles for like the skirt like like
pattern wise. Like I can look at a garment and
I can be like, okay, this is like the the shapes that like go
(33:38):
into the Garment but it's not like I'm picturing them, it's
not like I can see them, it's just I like, fundamentally know,
you know, like Pants is four rectangles on a circle, you
know, pants pants (33:51):
for rectangular active classroom,
just like that. We're just like.
So that's part of geometry is I'm pretty good at.
And actually when I was in high school I had a really good Earth
college. No eyes goes high school and a
really good math teacher, who knew that I was really
(34:14):
struggling with math and so she would use feeder stuff.
I got a lot like she taught me angles using like stage lights,
cool. And she liked and a lot of,
like, the math stuff that she taught me was, was kind of like
pattern making and stuff. And I think that's one of the
reasons why I understand that part.
So, well, is because of, that isbecause I could relate it to
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something that I could visualizeyour like I could understand.
And so it's like, I still don't know why 1 plus 1 equals 2, but
I can tell you that I can like, you know, I know like 90 degrees
like Three degrees inside because of like theater lighting
and like working to put the triangle so you know the
triangle falls on the actor likeyeah that's cool.
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I mean yeah I think I think people fixations and Hyper Focus
has give you many different Avenues.
Yeah she appreciate and understand the world which I
think is pretty cool. And also, pretty concise, way of
ending up Podcast. Everybody appreciate it for this
very strange episode of bed podcasts.
That isn't a very special in thebad pot.
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We should have a name for it. The bed episode better so bad, a
bad disowned bed. Yeah, epis Badness.
So I feel like better tsarist a better snowed.
All right, I've been at the bed,that's, that's terrible.
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Just not today because my ukulele is in the other room and
I might die, if I have to go getit.
Yeah, everybody will see you next Tuesday.
Thank you so much for being here.
I alway we we got to say the thing.
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Oh yeah. And but seriously.
Thanks so much for listening. I apologize for nothing.
I do. I'm sorry for like the sound
quality but genuinely I fucked up my back and I'm on new
medication and I feel I cannot stress this enough.
Absolutely fucking god awful. And so we decided that this,
we're going to do what we could and this is how we Did it.
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us. We certainly appreciate it.
And until next time, remember toeat a snack, remember to take
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Remember that. We love you.
We will see you with this Thursday, we'll see you next
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week is gonna be a bunch of noise while I just realized my
phone was on vibrate the whole time and so I'm pretty sure that
every time I got a text message,
Hello, Eric, yes. Oh hi, let's make podcast.
Yeah, let's make a podcast righthere and right now everybody, if
you're wondering why our audio sounds this way, it's because
I'm recording this from the guest bedroom because I can't
get out of bed because because Ihurt so much.
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And so I set my phone on top of my dog, and this is how we're
making a podcast today. Yeah dude.
Bed podcast, I Parker was the hygiene episode.
It was that was one of our most favorite episodes of all time.
We stopped trying to eat the phones for adults.
Find a stand and sell spot for the probably like right there.
(00:55):
Oh, exhales mode. That's gonna fall down about.
Not if Not if we don't even know.
If we don't even fucking like duct tape, it to the bed
wondering. If all those Creeks are like
vibrating straight to your phone, probably, this is a
really great keypad. It's a great like a weirdly
Creepy Bad creaky bad. It's not creepy about.
(01:16):
It's a creaky bed is different as different thing.
Well you want to talk about fun stuff today.
July, when turbo fun stuff, I thought of a really fun
question, was that? Oh my God, that's my back.
That's not questions. I know, I'm just saying it out
loud. um, top. I don't want to give you a
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number top, however, many you feel like saying hyper fixations
/ hyper-focus has never hexose think about, right?
Yeah, because as soon as talkingto my therapist today about the
Christmas, carol thing, the turkey think she was like, I'm
sorry what? And I was like, I had to like,
(01:57):
explain what is the turkey? Well, her new illustrations for
Those of you who may be new to arequest.
One time, I got bored and becamethe world's foremost expert on
the turkey and A Christmas Carol, in a way that changed.
I mean I was I was the person who invented that that was my
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idea. I invented that field of
research. Yeah, for those of you that
Google fonts, is it still do it?It does it says infinite questo
nice because I linked it to our website.
Nice, instead of Mike, you have a Google phone say OK, Google.
How big was the turkey in A Christmas?
Carol and then it will just put me on speaker.
And I just did it to all of yourdevices.
Sorry, Alexa play by me Rhapsody, sorry to whoever they
(02:45):
just got. Um, but so is talking about it
and, and like, I don't know, we just had this, like, really good
conversation about how sometimes, like, you know, I
feel like we like shit on. Oh, no, I don't want to speak
for the group, but I feel like, sometimes you can get, like,
frustrated about hyper focuses. And Fixations because like, you
know, at some point they had andthey like, we're off and
whatever. But I just started thinking
(03:07):
about all of the ways in which like, my hyper fixations have
like, genuinely improved my lifeor genuinely change my life.
We're just genuinely become like, really important to me.
And then I started just like I had this, like, just like weird
wave of like, affection towards some of the hyper fixation that
(03:30):
I've had. So, then I got curious about
Like water, what are some of yours?
Like, what are ones that I have been meaningful?
Or, you know, whatever I do? I mean, I think they range from
like, you know, like a Heavy Hitters, you know, like making
stuff out of coffee. Stirrers, that's like, oh also,
I want to point out we've talkedabout this before but as a big
(03:52):
pillow, the way that we Loosely distinguish between hyper-focus
and Hyper fixation as hyper fixation is like a longer term
thing. So if you have like a These
where, you know, you're really into a bookbinding or something
like that that would be a hyper fixation.
Hyper focus is like an instance of that.
Yeah. When you're sitting at the desk
(04:13):
and you like are just fully in the zone and you're like just
doing the same thing for 10 straight hours that's in like
hyper-focus. Yeah.
So let me except, I think the biggest type of fixations in the
make a Heavy Hitters makes abouta coffee service for sure.
And, you know, like bread, but the smaller ones like the
little, the ones little speckledegg won't.
Like weird ones. Yeah.
(04:34):
Extracting clay from the ground.That's about.
That was a great one. I used to do a thing called
dorodango. I told you about that.
Yeah, they will subdue these little shiny mud balls.
So basically you get dirt and you refine it in such a way that
you can make like a little ball and then use more dirt to like
(04:54):
make the outside finer and fineruntil it's eventually, like the
shiny little mud ball. They're called door.
Oh, balls dor. Oh balls.
Taro Dango anywho that was a really hard at 11.
And I also think about a lot about how like, a good use of
like hyper fixations is. You might forget like a lot of
(05:16):
the stuff that you learned or did or whatever, but it's still
kind of in there around. Yeah, and it really broadens
like your guests, it broadens the ways in which you can find
things. Interesting.
Which I think is cool because ifyou have like a week where
you're really into Texture and then stop giving a shit.
It's not like you have to be cut.
You your that's like you failed because you didn't become an
(05:38):
architect. Like it's cool now.
You walked out morning, when youwalk down the street, you can be
like, oh, that's called a pediment or those are called
dentals because they look, like teeth or whatever it is.
But I like the way that they sort of in they plan to each
other, like, when I was in, I think eighth grade.
I was, I had like this weekend where I was obsessed with trying
to get elemental, sodium, how doyou do that?
(06:02):
Well basically, the way you do it is you melt sodium, chloride
table, salt and melt sulf, your mouth.
Literally anything. Yeah.
What I thought was just like, catch on fire?
Yeah, I met Eric. I'm going to science.
(06:29):
Meltzer. Oh yes, he melts.
So important. Don't try this at home.
You can't do it home, the temperatures you need are too
high and it's just not going to happen, but don't throw this
away. That's like going out of the
kitchen. It's really hard to melt salt
and then run a strong electric current through it, which for
some reason, makes the chlorine unbond with the Sodium, which
(06:52):
then turns into gas and then yougot chlorine gas.
Switch will fucking kill you. Oh Jesus.
Oh, don't trust the decision that you were like this is the
thing I'm going to do this. Won't because Elemental.
Sodium. Katie and dear listener is
what's called an Alkali metal. There are a couple of them, I
can't remember. Potassium sodium.
(07:13):
Something else? I know go.
No, I don't know. I just think the name is silver,
but this bed is so cranky. Well, what makes Collide Metals
Katie is that the alkali metals motherfucking explode when they
(07:34):
come in contact with water? What are you trying to blow shit
up? Be honest, yeah, I'm kind of
such a teenage boy, you know. Interesting.
So sodium basically. It splits the water because it
wants to tries to bond with the hydrogen and or tries to bond
with the oxygen. And so it flings the hydrogen,
(07:57):
just into the air, which createsa big ball of hydrogen gas.
And the reaction itself is endothermic, which means it's
produces heat and it produces somuch of that heat that it's able
to ignite the hydrogen so it explodes.
So anyways I wanted some of that.
And I felt, but I did learn a lot about the alkali metals is
(08:18):
when I was 13. Now, the reason I bring this up
is because sodium metal is so reactive with water, that it can
even react with the water in theair.
So just sitting on the table, itcould just explode because it
comes in contact with a water droplet or something.
(08:39):
So, how do you store this stuff?If you need it to not, come in
contact, even with the outside. Arkady, how do you do that in
class? No, well, I mean, you could
store it in a vacuum, but what'sthe most efficient way of doing?
It is to store it in oil, certain mineral oil.
Sure. Because water can pass through
and it keeps it light coating hitters.
Yeah, like computers. Usually, you can put your
(08:59):
computer, don't, please don't try this at home and then sue
us. But one time, Eric told me that
you can submerge your computer in mineral oil and it will still
work. No, it's nothing apparently
people do because you can mine. Cool.
The oil and it like it's a thing.
Yeah, I mean I imagine it soundsfake, it sounds like something
that like some troll would put on like Tumblr.
(09:22):
So, like people, you know, how it's always like, every year,
there's like some asshole who's like, hey, just a reminder.
You don't have to defrost your church key before you deep fry.
It just like, people, like explode, their turkeys.
Did, you know if you hold a diamond pickaxe and look at lava
in Minecraft and press Q, it turns it into another right
pickaxe. Did you know that it Don't you
(09:43):
just throw it in the lava but he'll I also changed my
hockey's. So, did you?
Yeah, because you're pressing Q by accident.
Thank you accident, throwing my shit.
Baba, there's a pro-gamer move right, you know, such as I said,
oh, it's X. I have to hit the X key because
it means that I'm getting rid ofmixing like economic sense.
Yeah. But so sodium, they store it in
(10:04):
mineral oil to stop it from coming in contact with the air
and well, the moisture in the air but the outsider.
So 13 years later. I'm a cook in a restaurant.
I'm making basil. Pesto basil, basil.
I'm so excited to see where thisgoes.
These are Lister. I have no idea where this is
(10:24):
basil. Oxidizes really fast or
Persinger. I have to move, I know, but it's
gonna make a bunch of noise. I can't feel my leg.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry listeners, we're doing
the best we can today. I'm really having a hard time
(10:47):
basil pesto. I'm making basil, pesto basil
oxidizes very quickly. And when you're making basil,
pesto for like a nice restaurant, you want it to look
really nice. You put it in mineral oil well
so yeah it all rights. Yeah.
Well so it the process is basically if you blanch basil
really quickly it turns like a vibrant green but the second it
(11:08):
you like start working with it in.
Chopping it up or whatever you're doing it starts oxidize
and turn like a brownish, darkish greenish, bullshit
color. And so I was like, wait a
minute, what if right after you blanch them immediately toss
them in oil and then worked withthem from their to stop.
Because I would say about sodium, I was like, dude, what
if I need something just to not come in contact with the air?
(11:31):
What's the easiest way to do that balancing?
Well, we'll try tossing them, really well and neutral cooking
oil and it totally fucking work.That's amazing.
I remember being very proud in front of my boss at the time.
Nick and he asked me was like and I told him what I just told
you about Saudi early prep chef and he was like we're in the
(11:54):
we'd stop talking. We were you telling me about
Saudi Arabia is because I got hyper focused on making
Elemental sodium when I was 13 and even though I failed to make
Elemental sodium, when I was 13,you know, Apply.
It gave me like context to thinkabout something else later.
That's amazing. I think it's kind of cool.
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Is it? It just makes the world more
Vivid and I'm going to kind of cool.
I mean, that's what I love. That's what I love about.
All the hyper fixations that I've ever had is like, I always
say like I don't know what I always always.
Always say, DB power pole, the hip-hop eponymous and my Rhymes
(12:38):
are bottomless. Um, that's like my favorite.
One of my favorite things about just like, you know, hyper
fixations is how, you know, likeyou learned one thing when you
were 13 and then it comes back again when you were, you know,
20 and then it comes back again when you're 27 and 35 or
whatever like I just love That like I think it's absolutely
(12:58):
fascinating and I wish like again, I'm speaking for myself
I'm not speaking for the group but one thing that I've noticed
in my own life is that I tend todevalue my hyper fixations
because I'm like, oh well it's just a hybridization is just
silly or whatever. But it's like nah man, sometimes
those type of fixations like stuff like like they come with
(13:23):
you and you and you carry them with you, you know, during your
life. Um also I just thought of this,
I'm going to do this now. Um but hey, we want we want to
know about yours. We want it.
Dear listener. We want to know about your hyper
fixation. Yes, innocent electronic mail
and I just remembered the password for our email which is
a skit and funiculus podcast.com.
(13:47):
I'm sorry if you emailed us in the past two months because I
definitely forgot the password and I remembered it last night
and so I checked the email there.
Are a bunch of emails that role very nice.
Thanks for sending us emails. I'm sorry, I forgot the
password. There is a question mark that I
forgot. I put in there.
Not going to tell you where hashtag safety first, but you
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will know it. No ask it was fuck a stocking
mask at infinite Quest podcast.com.
I was making a game of seeing how long I could watch Eric try
and get a word in edgewise. I had a joke they totally
passed. It was a bad joke but I did my
side. My I have a joke face.
He did. You'd absolutely had felt
(14:30):
intentional at some point. It's like why you're really
stretching this and now I thought that was me.
I was just I was just rolling. Well, another thing with hold
on. I gotta see how long we've been
recording. I have a stopwatch.
What is this part? How long do you think we've been
recording 12 minutes incorrect. Hello 15.
Oh wow. Okay.
Well, 14 minutes and 45 seconds,put the phone down, I was gonna
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say some really smart. Look, whole, I'm sitting down
quietly, this is the Silliest way to record a podcast and I
kind of think that it's the bestthing.
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it'll work, we're doing patreon.com slash infinite
Quest. You said it, so I had to, but
when you get kind of good at stuff, I mean you started hobby
you gotta kind of good at it andyou stop when you start another
one in. It kind of good at it and you
stop and start another one. You get kind of you, you're hot,
you get the thing that you're you're practicing is getting
kind of good at stuff. You got pretty good at getting
(15:36):
pretty good at stuff and that's useful as fuck.
Like the amount of times that you're a beginner when you're a
person who has a lot of like sequential Hobbies you're a
beginner all the time like you're always a beginner at
something that you're doing likeright now I'm a beginner at CAD
software. I'm also a big dinner at tiny
cities, killing Tony cities or so.
(15:57):
Soldering aluminum cans together.
Like I'm a beginner at that and once they get caught, when did
your soldering a loop? Yeah.
Together. What?
Ya want to make a? What are you doing in your
office? I want to make a 1/12 scale suit
of armor. Oh shit, I gotta send you that
pattern. Yeah, I forgot.
(16:17):
I'm sorry. It's okay.
Sweetie anytime whenever I'm still doing like an initial
experiment phase where I'm trying to figure out the best
way to go in there because I just want it to look good,
right? Build. 1/4 scale game person
sees. I don't know what that is.
But yeah, the padding that you were.
Oh cool. It's like you know you can make
a lot of really good if you're, hey, if you're an SEO person or
(16:39):
a medieval person, if you're a run Fair person and you're like
oh no I don't want a game some but she costs money moving
blankets dog. Oh yeah, game stand out of
fucking double layer. What's the name like what's the
noun? You're saying gambeson gambeson
GA M bi is 0. NV e.
PE PE gambeson campus. That's a made-up.
(17:01):
My also now I'm having a moment where I feel like I'm probably
saying the wrong word. Oh, but I feel like I feel
fairly confident that that's asked at infinite cost.
Podcast.com. Okay.
Be. That's and years.
Yeah. It's like you're a beginner
constantly. And I think that's really
important. I think I mean I know you know I
harp a lot about like failure practice.
(17:23):
Yeah and I think getting used tothe experience of being In your
and getting used to the experience of failing are
extremely important things to like live a nice human life and
I think as frustrating it is to like spend a bunch of money on
hobbies and like get mad at yourself and you drop them.
Like, that's pretty sweet, you know?
Like I'm very comfortable being a beginner, I mean it's still
(17:46):
uncomfortable but I'm comfortable being uncomfortable.
This is opposite, I'm absolutelyupset.
Your better, are you? Yeah, I fucking hate that part
when it gets So mad like that's why I quit everything cause I'm
like I'm not instantly. Like how you remember the one
time when I was going to play the cello every day for two
weeks, those are really cool week and a half.
(18:06):
And I got mad because I wasn't Yo-Yo Ma by day three.
I was like, she like I'm pushingI'm pushing back.
Sweetheart, push it back on it because like, I'm not saying
that that's not true, like, you're the expert, you're an
experienced, right? But I think a lot of times it's
not, or at least from my perspective, it's not you
getting frustrated that you're not into the amazing and then
quitting. It's just Boredom.
(18:28):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's like we're forgetting.
It was two things. It's because for me, active is
both active and inactive. Wait, did I say active as well?
You did say. It learning learning is both
active and inactive because like, if you're teaching me
something, mmm, horny for learning.
I'm just saying it, I was going to say it.
(18:49):
How it is, Right? Game is Eric, I love it, I love
it. Like, mmmm, teach me stuff all
day long. I fucking love it, I love that
shit, I love that feeling. I Of the brain scratchy's.
I just hmm, teach me stuff, but if I'm teaching myself, I put
such an expectation. I would like such an expectation
on myself to like, instantly getit, you know?
(19:11):
And like I think that's the difference is because when
there's like an act, when it's like Active Learning, what it's
like, I'm injured playing with somebody and I can like ask
questions or like whatever that I'm like, oh hell yeah, you know
what I mean? But if it's like I'm learning by
myself. On the very fast reader.
You know, I watch YouTube videoson 1.75 speed and so, in my head
(19:34):
I should be there. I should have the skill by the
end of the video, that's not howit works.
It's like, you know what I mean?It's like a real-time thing.
Like that's yeah, but like that's the difference for me is
like there's like a like I thinkit's somebody with somebody was
teaching me cello. Like I'd be like fuck.
Yes this is amazing. Like you know show for lessons
every week or whatever Eric stopwatching takes action.
(19:57):
If I guess just the shrimp. Well, there's something else
involved with somebody to like show and there's also what I'm
teaching myself something where I wouldn't say I'm teaching
myself something because that takes away from like the person
on YouTube, who's teaching me, or the person who wrote the
thing that I'm reading, you know, you got roast.
(20:18):
So sorry. I'm sorry.
I interrupted, I just thought ofsomething really gross.
Didn't ya, know what you got roasted today by the
electrician? Oh, did I really yeah.
What do they write? Turn
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this fucking piece of shit. Say you like the ocean came over
today, so, you know, but we wentback to look at the lights and
he saw your little like area. Like oh, is your is your husband
in to like prove technology? And I just kind of like because
(21:03):
it's faster and easier and I waslike, oh yeah, you know, that's
really informative technology could I didn't feel like having
the poly conversation with the electrician would just met.
And then he was like, he's like oh, what is he doing?
Like always trips and us His reaction of like this fucking
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guys like out in the woods, digging holes and playing in the
mud, but it's a job. It's being like, terminally on
the internet and it was really funny.
Anyway, that's the whole story, but you had to be there.
I was, it was really funny in person but it was funny in
person. Yeah, well, I quit the podcast.
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I get to spend the rest of the day with you and he had to
leave. So we who wins.
No. But here quietly for us, I do
think about how much everything hurts, fuck you, man.
No, I hurt. No, I'll wear any where it's
harder, its value, the social opinions of electricians, very
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highly, that's impossible. This is great.
If your lectures from you class and ask him, if he'll tell us
what you think about, Eric generally, just roast Eric.
If your electric thanks for us, I also actually, just anybody
Rose to me, I would be amazing. Please ask it.
Infinite Quest. Podcast.com roast.
Eric if you dare Eric, but I don't know if I could roast you.
(22:34):
I feel like I probably could butI just feel like you can write
roast and it can like think muffed up my head.
Your hair is Big cool roasted not got him but I think what I'm
teaching myself, something ruse with what is happening.
I can't I am I get really held up on efficiency and like is
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this the most efficient way for me to be learning this?
Yeah, if I'm learning something that like the knowledge doesn't
exist yet for you. No.
Like if I'm trying to make an aluminum can behave in a certain
way like weird stuff then it's just trial and error and yeah
trying to well then it's just feeling as many pots as I can
till I have interest up failing,but if I'm just like doing
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research myself, I'm always yeah, I'm kind of obsessed with
like efficiency. Like there are a lot of skills
than I straight-up. Don't have because all the
YouTube videos, teaching, those skills are too long.
Like double speed. Oh no, I mean, even on Devils -
oh, Listen to at least 1 Point 5.
What is, what's the what is an example?
Now, I'm fast like CAD software is for example.
(23:41):
So I have the 3D printer now. And so CAD software is on our
just software's that are made for building like parts and
stuff machine parts and stuff it's usual and like CNC
Machining. Yeah, but if it's a program
where I can sort of jump in and just kind of, go click clack,
click clack, click clack, click clack.
You know I can get decent at it pretty fast but cats are very
(24:03):
complicated. Dated.
There's like all sorts of weird buttons and constraints and
stuff. So the only way to learn it is
to like actually watch some tutorials that are very like
it's very class like you know those like episode 1 is 40
minutes, he's like, here's the basic layout and all the stuff
and it's just like I hate it so much.
I mean, I I bet is probably a very good way of teaching it,
but I hate it, I get frustrated,I don't know.
(24:28):
Now, do you have the thing whereI get really frustrated when You
like you've kind of been doodling, you know, you're like
doodling about and you're like, oh yeah, so like I kind of know
where this button is and I kind of know where this button is
whatever but there's like that weird gray area where you don't
know a lot but you know, a little bit but then you go to
like the intro video and they'relike in, here's the start menu
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and you're like fuck already, all this part and then you skip
ahead like five minutes. And then it's something that you
don't know and many of us like go back you like wait I know
this part new understanding longer doing that.
Yeah, it must've heat, but it's like, but it's like, if I
already know it, I am so uninterested in Earning it, but
that it's like, usually sort of like piecemealing.
You're like knowledge together, you know.
Yeah, no, I totally do that all the time.
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Yeah, I mean, they're all the time.
I'll my knowledge is about just anything is very rarely like
broad as usually specific. So, like with a given program,
I'm really good at doing this but I have no idea how to do the
rest of it. And I also feel like I do a lot
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of things less efficiently because His, I didn't take the
time to, like, watch the whole YouTube video.
I just learned the one part and then like two months later,
like, oh there's a button for that, you know, usually that
takes me an hour and a half but I can just press control
whatever. Great, Eric great.
I feel that way about Photoshop because like, I don't use
(25:53):
Photoshop very much but like thethings that I've used Photoshop
for are like very specific and so, like I'm amazing at making
things look like Get embossed leather book I could do that
really well. Yeah.
How do you do that? It's a slimy, some contrast like
a layer and like burning a layerlike just saw there's a Burnin
(26:14):
Up Burnin but like there's like this whole process here but I
did it. One time for never.
In more is a is our marketing package looked like an antique
leather book and I wanted it to be a boss with never more on the
front for a Christmas show. And so I learned how to do it
and then it was like, it was thesame thing where I was like, oh
there's a process that has like two buttons but I like learn by
hour and a Process, but I'm verygood at it.
(26:38):
No II. Think programs are probably my
most frustrating? Yeah, like learning thing
because it's on the computer like it's not a literal physical
thing is just sitting on the computer.
Like my God hyper-focus. Pretty.
You know, I'm programs were likeyou can naturally learn the next
step. Yeah you know where you get the
dopamine really quickly. So it's like if it's a 3D
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modeling software even in the first little bit you are
Remodeling a thing a little bit like that's good.
But we're programs that are likeepic like you know, Maya or
something like that. Where it's like the first is,
did you? Yeah I never did.
I think I took a class or something at one point, what was
your, what was your Maya phase? I is a 3D modelling.
(27:21):
So you cut. Well he's an old-school, I think
Toy Story. One was made on my own when I
worked at the casino and button or if there were these two guys
and Kind of like tossed around making like a comic book slash
game together. And one of the guys, his name
was Jack, I think and feel like it was Jack.
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Yes, super good at 3D modeling like just like stupid good at
it. Like one of the best fathers,
but he is Maya. And so I would just thought it
was cool and he would like make these like cool little
characters and like, these little monsters and stuff, and
he would just like, you know, like Senator the group chat or
whatever. And so I just thought it was
(28:05):
like meet. And so I decided that I wanted
to learn how and I very quickly realized it was like real
fucking hard and so that I quit,yeah, the end the end.
Cause a guy who worked at a casino told me about it one
time, that's the whole story I do.
I also inv literacy so much fluency like when somebody knows
a program like nobody's fucking business and not only like can
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they make cool stuff? But they can make cool stuff
efficiently. Yeah and replicate it and change
it in any way. It's like all done properly.
I feel that way about Concepts, like I fucking like, that's what
I like, love learning like cooking stuff from you.
Oh I got Bailey here on me, feellike I should apologize to leave
(28:51):
Billy haircut today. Dear listener and it did not you
what you gave me at least she won't stop.
Squirming was making mashed potatoes, mashed potatoes.
And Bailey ran into the wall because her hair was in her.
So I was like, okay, we have to do something.
Speaking of not, being an expert, I did not watch any
(29:12):
videos about dog grooming and soit just kind of went for it.
And now she looks very chic eyeslike a mohawk situation.
She looks like grommet. She's like, I, it's so cool.
(29:33):
He would like, you know, you like go to like a class or
whatever and some teachers like yeah.
And here's how they made printing presses and 1598.
You know, I just like fucking, oh my God like just like expert
level expertise like needy gritty like oh my God, it's so
good. It's hot.
It's hot. I'll say it as learning a sexy
(29:55):
know. It is I had once worked for /
with a guy. He was a sous chef at a
restaurant was working and he Asa chemist, like, he was working
as a cook, he's got a little turned on between, I think he
was going backwards phds. I don't know.
I'm so horny today. We're talking about learning and
I'm learning. Yes.
It was like I can't fucking movebecause I'm in so much pain and
(30:18):
I'm just like, oh, oh yeah, that's how you change stuff.
Why is the floor of the library slippery?
Katie was, you heard so much? But he was a chemist, which is
great because the culinary worldis Motherfucking full of stuff,
you don't know like every day. There's a million things that
(30:38):
you can learn about in which is amazing but very often you'll
get very dissatisfied answers either because the person
teaching you one doesn't know orthey're like in a rush and you
know it's happy a lot man whatever.
But so like I do you know, Chef might do something and something
(31:00):
to something and you can say like, why did you want that?
Let's say it's sick. Atkins.
It. That's like cool.
That's a useful answer. I know that now and I think is
it. But why the map it's math.
Yeah wasn't probably math, is math.
Will always with you is that math will always eventually fall
down on an assumption? That one plus one equals two
(31:24):
fucking annoying like all of math only works because of those
basic assumptions that like you know why though?
Eric, that's one way. I was asked so many people.
Well it's not an easy question is really difficult question.
I like called like Neil deGrasseTyson.
(31:46):
I mean something might help thing that is like to think it
like one plus one is not that one plus one equals two.
It's that to is the name for thething that you get when you add
1 to 1, Y is 1 1 like what? Like not like the word I don't
care about the word we could. All it people or but like why I,
how is the concept of one. A thing I do I would say given
(32:10):
ratios like one is half of two fucking doesn't help.
I'm like but then I start thinking of it looks like
circles were like one is 360 Degrees, you know?
And then it's like, okay, well then if been like, but then it's
like, OK. Eunice, you know, I started like
completing units in my head and then I just get like yeah, maybe
(32:33):
if you like really good at like,Calculus I don't know what I
think your conceptual geometry will not be able to picture
stuff that's like a fundamental part of.
Maths is thick as picturing stuff.
Yeah. That's the only thing I can do
it with really like efficiently is shapes for some reason.
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Like this flat plane shapes picture shapes.
I can't think I can't. Like if you're like picture of
square like I can kind of like I'm aware of the concept of what
a square is but if you were likehey, I need you to make me.
(33:18):
Honestly, like a tutor ground asa really good example because
like a Tudor gown is specifically, like there's like
a triangular portion and then there's like the bodice portions
and there's like the triangles for like the skirt like like
pattern wise. Like I can look at a garment and
I can be like, okay, this is like the the shapes that like go
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into the Garment but it's not like I'm picturing them, it's
not like I can see them, it's just I like, fundamentally know,
you know, like Pants is four rectangles on a circle, you
know, pants pants (33:51):
for rectangular active classroom,
just like that. We're just like.
So that's part of geometry is I'm pretty good at.
And actually when I was in high school I had a really good Earth
college. No eyes goes high school and a
really good math teacher, who knew that I was really
(34:14):
struggling with math and so she would use feeder stuff.
I got a lot like she taught me angles using like stage lights,
cool. And she liked and a lot of,
like, the math stuff that she taught me was, was kind of like
pattern making and stuff. And I think that's one of the
reasons why I understand that part.
So, well, is because of, that isbecause I could relate it to
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something that I could visualizeyour like I could understand.
And so it's like, I still don't know why 1 plus 1 equals 2, but
I can tell you that I can like, you know, I know like 90 degrees
like Three degrees inside because of like theater lighting
and like working to put the triangle so you know the
triangle falls on the actor likeyeah that's cool.
(34:56):
I mean yeah I think I think people fixations and Hyper Focus
has give you many different Avenues.
Yeah she appreciate and understand the world which I
think is pretty cool. And also, pretty concise, way of
ending up Podcast. Everybody appreciate it for this
very strange episode of bed podcasts.
That isn't a very special in thebad pot.
(35:17):
We should have a name for it. The bed episode better so bad, a
bad disowned bed. Yeah, epis Badness.
So I feel like better tsarist a better snowed.
All right, I've been at the bed,that's, that's terrible.
If you like the podcast, if you'd like to help support,
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(35:41):
Quest, and also, we're quite behind on our patreon thong, but
will will do. Patron saint pretty soon.
Just not today because my ukulele is in the other room and
I might die, if I have to go getit.
Yeah, everybody will see you next Tuesday.
Thank you so much for being here.
I alway we we got to say the thing.
(36:03):
Oh yeah. And but seriously.
Thanks so much for listening. I apologize for nothing.
I do. I'm sorry for like the sound
quality but genuinely I fucked up my back and I'm on new
medication and I feel I cannot stress this enough.
Absolutely fucking god awful. And so we decided that this,
we're going to do what we could and this is how we Did it.
(36:25):
So, thank you for being here. Thanks for being flexible with
us. We certainly appreciate it.
And until next time, remember toeat a snack, remember to take
your meds, remember to drink some water, remember to be kind
to yourself, remember to be kindto others.
Remember that. We love you.
We will see you with this Thursday, we'll see you next
(36:48):
week is gonna be a bunch of noise while I just realized my
phone was on vibrate the whole time and so I'm pretty sure that
every time I got a text message,
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