November 29, 2022 • 32 mins
In this episode, Cate and Erik sit down to discuss the challenges of challenges becoming more challenging challenges by way of compounding complications. It makes more sense when you listen. They discuss the ups and downs of the holiday season, the pressures of remembering details and how quickly little tasks can become big tasks when you're living life with ADHD.
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(00:08):
Hi Katie. Hi everybody.
Although hi Eric. Also, I just like, want to say
immediately before we started recording this Eric was like,
would you like me to turn off the overhead light?
And I honestly don't know if I've ever felt so loved.
I always write is really appreciate that.
You like understand that. As like a thing of course
sweetie. I always think about the
(00:29):
overhead lights It's in. It's like that.
Like that. How the overhead lights will
light go out in the house. Yeah.
And we just don't know. Yeah.
The song I'm just like every dayof the month, the big light does
not come on unless you're cleaning.
It's okay. If you're cleaning cleaning,
yes, like cleaning. But it's like, otherwise, it's
like why why would you put on anoverhead light Wells?
I think we talked about, he's like last week, but how much
lighting affects my focus? Like, if I'm like in a room and
(00:51):
my desk is significantly lit, but the rest of the room is
like, you know, not significantly.
Let that it's like way easier for me to focus and officials
like the entire room is bright. So then it's like, Yeah, it's
like an analogy for my focus. Anyways, you know, it's like
little spotlights. I gotta get like, little pin
lights and put them on like, just different stuff.
Oh yeah. Just like now, you're making
coffee. Yeah.
Have like a little penlight. Well, I think about the stuff,
(01:12):
you know, light as a focused. Jesus Christ.
Make a little bit more noise, a tear their tail down.
My fault is the chair, okay. I should have a new one coming
and then you can have. You want my old chair?
Thanks those fines. Good.
That's here. I still can't believe he's
really terrific people. This that's like your third desk
chair. I know I can't find one.
That's comfortable. I'm sorry sweets I back that
Kickstarter for that chair. That is supposed to like, you
(01:34):
know, fold all the different ways you can sit on it all.
Weird, it's a bisexual chair, but it's been held up in like
Kickstarter Howell for like, a year and it's like, but every
time they like, send up an update, they're like, yeah.
Like here's what like, and it's,they're clearly doing a lot of
work on it, but I've been waiting, like a year for my
terrible than Logitech. Shout-out to Logitech, by
(01:56):
Logitech products because they sponsored me.
But Logitech is Apparently also sending me a chair so you can
have my bicycle chair. Better webcams would be nice.
I that twitchcon. There's both there's a huge like
sign was like lit up from the back sign and the top of it, it
said, the future of gaming and it was like exactly the font and
style. You think it was like very cool.
(02:18):
And many that there was like this person sitting in like a
chair and they were like they had their controller and it was
like it's really cool like the photo it man and I was like what
is that fucking sign for? It just to the future of gaming.
And I was like, Like okay. And you know, I was sort of
moseying my way around, eventually I finally got to that
Booth with the big sign and it was the chair.
The chair with a future game is the future of gaming.
(02:40):
That was very impressive chair at, I know, right?
Very impressive gelik. Some team of people got paid to
like sit there and go. Okay, how do we advertise this
fucking chair? The chairman the Future.
Okay, me. I mean, God bless them, the
confidence, you know, it's like I had no idea there's like five
thousand dollar office chairs, Jesus really?
I was like what is the most money?
He's better off his shirt and I was like maybe a grand like I
(03:02):
was like 5 like an executive like like no dude, they're like
expensive as office chairs in the world and then like gaming
chairs and shit but also I really want one of those like
massage chairs. Oh yeah.
We had one of those of the Airbnb for Chad and it literally
changed my life. Oh yeah.
Like it was like somebody stealing we can put in here and
then you can see. Ya thinking is I was like but
also that's like they're like really expensive.
(03:24):
I do wonder. What like the max value of a
chair is that isn't like novel like in like in food There can
be like a dessert that's like a thousand dollars and it's like
well yeah but they just cover itin like gold leaf and needlessly
expensive ingredient, you know, like it's not really worth its
novel that its cost that much and I feel like a chair is the
same thing. Like a look 50 Grand chairs.
Like well yeah, it's because it's ostrich whatever and it you
(03:46):
know wood from the whatever likeI'm wondering just based on
function solely on function how much like, how much would
somebody pay for a purely functional chair?
I think a lot but like at some point, there's a word for this.
I can't remember. There's a type of object that
doesn't follow regular economic like supply and demand rules,
(04:07):
like, it's expensive because it's expensive.
Like it's worth a lot because it's worth a lot, because it's
rare, because it's whatever treasure cost, 20 thousand
dollars, Jesus Christ. But it does have it, it's like,
oh, it's it's like the Mercedes.Like, if anybody happens to work
for Sleep Galleria and you can get me a sick, employee
(04:28):
discount. I Desperately want a massage
chair, but I'm poor. So just, you know.
That's anyway. Hi everybody.
Welcome, I'm mad. At trying to figure out the name
that we were recording at the same time?
No, no. I was leaning.
(04:49):
And I when I remember goes leaning into the microphone.
That's okay. There's a word.
There's a word. There's a word for it.
Like a specific type of object that is that people want By
simply because it's very expensive you know it's like a
status symbol thing. Like there's an app that's like
a hundred thousand dollars and it's just called like I am rich
or something. Okay.
(05:09):
Is it just called a status symbol is that the word you're
looking for? Know it's like a dunning's
object or something. Dunning-kruger effect know that
but I was why I thought about that.
Okay, I'm going to I'm going to spend my yard reaction.
The Occam's razor, I'm just going to start naming things
that have cool names. Is it giffen Goods may be given
(05:34):
a MacGuffin? No, not a MacGuffin.
But maybe I don't know. Okay, I'm I'm dropping it.
I'm dropping it. It's okay.
You'll think I'm sure dot MP4 did a video on it.
I was like, that's cool word. I'm remember it.
And now, I don't. Sorry, Dexter.
That's your channels. Great go follow Dexter dot MP4.
On on Tick-Tock anywho. So what we were gonna talk about
(05:56):
today before we started talking about expensive upstairs but
seriously, if anybody has a massage chair discount code, ask
him because podcast.com I'm desperate please, I'm begging
you. Um but no so I've been sick.
And then we got our covid boosters.
Yeah. And I got sick again and so I've
been pretty much sick for two weeks straight.
(06:18):
Yeah. It's been really fun.
I'm sorry. I was sick for three days or
not, not not, not until we're not, we're not competing here
for second just for context for The Listener.
Yeah, this is carried in the center.
We were both very, very sick, very sick for several 10 times,
but I got me thinking it got me thinking because we were sick
right before, Thanksgiving. Yeah.
Like through the week, The week I started feeling better the
(06:41):
morning before of the day beforethat know the morning of
Thanksgiving actually. Yeah because the yeah and we
want to be cooking Thanksgiving dinner on Saturday.
Yeah because it was like well that was the thing.
That was what got me thinking about what I think we were
supposed to talk about which is not office chairs but is the
fact that with neurodivergent see it's so easy to like have
(07:04):
things suddenly compound like today was like a really good
example because I am still Stillsick, I still do not feel great
and because of that, I realized that I was like behind on my
emails, but because I was behindon my emails, I realized that I
had forgotten to pay my credit card bill which is fine.
Like I paid it, but I was also supposed to make hotel
reservations today for a convention that we have coming
up because the room block was opening up and so then I
(07:26):
couldn't do that because I forgot to pay off my credit card
it was like this whole thing of just because I had a headache,
three days ago, it was like, youknow what I mean?
Like the cause and effect there.And so it just made me think
about how much worse it is. During like the holidays that
was I made a video about that. I don't remember what I call
them. I was like Swallowed, a Fly
problems. It's like you swallow something.
(07:46):
There was do this. I'm going to do something like
this, you know, it's like five stages long.
Now, like the things you have tosolve.
Yeah, I know. I mean, I get really, I don't
really, I didn't realize until this year, that I get stressed
around the holidays and yeah, being sick.
It it like, makes I put this it,like it gives something for my
executive dysfunction to like lean on.
(08:08):
It's like, no. I'm Not just like this all the
time. I'm just like this because, you
know, I'm very sick or whatever,you know, body aches, or I've a
headache or something like that.So my executive function is
like, it's like, oh my God, it'slike a vacation for my executive
function, it just gets to decidethat I'm just going to run
rampant, aah. And then yes, problems just
start like piling up. Yeah.
So what do you do? What do I do?
(08:29):
Yeah, lists maybe list. Yeah, I got like a prep list.
I mean, I think that's cooked training.
But yeah, propolis stuff and it's usually like it hinges for
me. It usually Is on one thing or a
couple of things are not hinges.That's not the word.
But it can also sort of be traced back to one thing.
Like, for me, it's a lot of times like, like my desk gets
(08:49):
really cluttered and so I hate sitting on my desk and I avoid
it and so like, you know, I'll get sick or something, which
means I'm not, I'm less likely to like, take the dishes that
I'm using on my desk downstairs or take out the trash next to my
desk that's full. So I end up just sort of like
leaving trash places and as thathappens, and it's like, oh, I
have to, you know, edit that episode So door, right?
(09:10):
That thing or email that person,but I don't to sit at my desk or
I don't want to like, I don't feel like my deck at desk is a
productive place. So it just gets like dirtier as
I sit there and foots about, or something like that.
And then, that starts to affect my self-esteem, like, the
cleanliness of my desk. It's all varied escalated.
Well, this this hypothetical with it at that, it starts to
(09:31):
affect my self-esteem, which makes it like, oh, I don't want
to make contact because I want to look at my own fucking face.
You know. Or like I don't want to like
call my mom, like I was Too because, you know, I'm
existentially embarrassed or whatever.
But and so usually I can follow that train back of like, why
didn't I want to do that? Oh, it's because I didn't want
to sit at my desk. Why don't want to sit at my
(09:52):
desk. I didn't work, so my toes
because it's dirty, it's dirty because in take the trash out.
So like you can kind of follow back to like oh if I clear off
my desk, then I'll at least it doesn't solve everything but
like at least allows me to start.
Yeah. But then it's also like but also
you have to go buy Christmas presents and And make
Thanksgiving dinner, although wekind of crush Thanksgiving this
(10:12):
year. Yeah, because it is this because
it turn there's no rules that say, you have to do a
Thanksgiving dinner a on Thanksgiving, right?
Or be a have traditionally Thanksgiving Foods.
We had steak filet mignon, Fletcher, ignorance, and Billy
had some tools nearly had a little bit just a little bit by
little bit but it was I do want to let I know that you're not
(10:35):
supposed to don't fucking don't fucking send me a mean.
Meow, I know this is bad to do but I've never gotten a feed a
dog under the table before and so I was like it was like I felt
like my childhood was a little bit like fulfilled.
It is very nice. Now is bad.
I know it's bad and you're not supposed to because otherwise
you'd almost bother you under the table for the rest of your
life, but it was just like, I was like, I just got to, like
(10:55):
slipper pieces, like, the nicestthing I've heard always wanted
to do that. It's really nice.
It's really shows you how littlewe use the dining room table.
First time we sat at the table, like a month, it's what I think
when you feed it, all going to be Table.
There's all automatically like aclose-up shot from underneath
the table of the dog's perspective.
Yeah. So like the audience knows that
(11:15):
you didn't like the casserole. You know.
It's like an exposition, those good.
I was getting all the good shit.Yeah.
How do you propose to solve the things piling up like that?
Honestly, you said a list and I went oh, I should do that.
Like because my thing is like I'm in this like weird place
where like like I'm dealing witha lot of like, medical stuff and
like, I'm starting to feel that like end-of-the-year pressure of
(11:38):
time where I've got, we've got like packs coming up, which by
the way, we're going to be a Pax.
You we will also be a packs, yougot pressure of time, but then
we've also got, like, I've got acouple of like writing deadlines
that. I'm not saying I forgot about,
but I am saying I've been putting off slightly and then
like just like the DVD. So I like it's just I have like
(12:00):
a lot but then it's like, the small, like, life stuff on top
of that. Like Do you pay your credit
card? The answer was no like, and
again, I paid. It was fine.
It was not a big deal but it's just like I feel like it's like
it's like painting for gold, youknow how like you you take the
thing and you and then she shakeout and then all the little
pieces like fall. Yeah, that's what I feel but I
(12:21):
feel like my like you know you like you shake the thing and
then there's like the big stuff and then there's like the second
tier so if you like as you go down it's just like I lose track
of like the small little pieces that are like falling through
the what is it? A sieve sieve.
Don't know how you say it. A little that you Paying for:
and I'm sure he's got away. Those are feeling a feeling of I
(12:45):
do like prospecting is like a different thing but I feel like
a sleuth is like the lon there'slike a long life loses a person
who solves Mysteries. Oh a sluice excuse me.
It's loose, it's loose is like along like yeah panting.
Yeah, but he likes loose in the but I think there's like a word
(13:07):
for like the yeah, the pan itself it's like made out of
like, you know, like, net. Not Adding like, oh, like you
said, it like a white. Like a sifter?
Yeah, it's like when you sift flour.
Yeah. But but with goals, not scared
Rivers. Is when you're like an old-timey
guy, who saved ours gold, another golden ending at
suspenders on that suspenders. Well, the bullet hole and I'm
ready? Ready?
(13:28):
Like Henley. It's got to be a Heavenly.
Yeah. And your knees.
Go like outwards. Yeah.
It's like a little bit, you know, like you say howdy there
partner like a weird weird aboutthat's very good.
We're painting a vivid mental image.
Is that right? Well how do you like what what
usually happens when you well I guess when you realize that you
(13:49):
are forgetting all those things or I guess when or when the
consequences of forgetting thosethings start to come to a head.
I mean for me it's like I think it's like a two-fold thing of I
have to find a like a day to step on the brakes which I think
is probably going to be tomorrowwhere I just sit down and that's
where I started doing list because I don't notice it, I
don't notice the like slow decline, which is honestly one
(14:09):
of my toxic traits is Don't notice the slow fall.
I only noticed what? I'm like already like in like
the snowball and I'm like, rolling down the hill, you know
what I mean? Like, fuck.
I forgot to do that, too. Um, and so that's why I try so
hard to like not to like keep track of everything.
But then what, it's like the minute that I slip or I get sick
or, you know, it's like hey the holidays and Thanksgiving and
(14:31):
you're going through a bunch of medical shit and like all the
stuff. And so then it's like, oh fuck
like now I'm already halfway down the hill before I even
noticed. And so for me, it's about just
like finding a I don't know, a proverbial Branch to grab onto
to just be like, okay what do I have to get done this week?
Like what is happening this week?
You know, and sort of like beating it out that way.
(14:52):
But yeah yeah I was just thinking outside of an analogy
we're like At any given time. It's hard for me to, like, sit
there and count and list the things that like I have to do.
Yeah, I just think of them sort of periodically.
So I just remember that I have remembered a lot of things that
(15:13):
I have to do. I do remember what they are.
I keep thinking, like, if you'reapplying like, well Minecraft
and you had like a Frito really short render distance on so you
can only see like, you know, 16 blocks around you or something
like that and there were like a bunch of mobs around a bunch of,
yeah. NPCs a bunch of animals and
every once in a while one would like walk through the render
(15:34):
distance, you could like see like oh there's a sheep.
Cool but then it walks out and then later like a cow will walk
through and it's like, oh there's a cow right down the
cow. You know, that's kind of what it
feels like to remember the stuffthat I have to do is like I
can't it's really hard for me tojust sit and go.
What do I have to do? Yeah, because all usually spin
(15:54):
out, I'll think of things, that's what I like to highs in
the sky stuff. Not like the immediate things.
And I need to do what they like.I should, you know, redo my
entire twitch stream which I did.
No. Yeah, I also thought of
something and I'm going to say to on the podcast because I want
to hear your reaction, okay. I think that we should move.
(16:15):
I don't know why. This this is all I thought about
last night. I think we should move that
stuff, the costume racks for those of you who aren't in our
office at home, mom, and we should move that stuff and you
should build a loft bed. Oh, I can get down with a lot.
You could have like a little cave area for your desk and then
you could have a bed that's I grew up with a bed like that my
(16:36):
dad and I built one of the firstthings I built out of like
two-by-fours and stuff was my brother and I had bunk beds that
we built. And then, when my brother I got
separate rooms I just had a loftbed.
Yeah, I've been thinking about that I was thinking about like
putting because I was also thinking about, I don't know why
I felt the need to bring this upon the podcast, but I was
thinking, but that's like that'slike what I was saying.
(16:58):
I was like, it's not like the writing that I have.
Like a week left to turn in. It's not.
I was like what if we built loftbeds and everything all of the
offices for more bedding. What I was worried about last
night? Yeah.
No. I like if I were to sit down
right now which I'm probably do after we after we finish this.
If I just like sit down and makea list which I, you know, I do
and I advocate for think it's a good idea.
(17:20):
It's a my mind immediately goes blank of like the shit that I
have to do and I can like, thinkof stuff.
But it's never the stuff that like I thought of because it was
urgent. It's the stuff that I thought
Out of because my brain thought it was interesting.
Yeah, like rearranging the room or something like that.
It's not like what are the actual immediate thing is that
you need to do to make you feel like you did some shit today you
know? Yeah.
(17:41):
Did you just remember something?I just remember something I have
to order to Target, I mean. Yeah.
But okay, as I got to get a thing for a video.
Okay. I gotta get.
Do I need? No we have I can we have do
every show dog collars. I mean I'm sure I've got a few
(18:01):
colors like red hair. Yeah, I figure.
We jumped. Okay, I don't know why we would
have them but I don't know. Either damnedest thing.
Known to be a dog in a video andI know it's going to start the
onslaught of people. It's being like, are you
actually going to make the video?
Yeah. Oh, I thought you were joking.
No, no. It's real video.
Yeah. What is going to be the video is
going to be a the dog of a person with ADHD and it's just
(18:23):
going to be like a perspective of the did the dog of the person
who has ADHD like oh yeah, second breakfast.
Fist. Nice, they forgot they fed them
once. You know are like just standing
at the door. Like oh well we're going back.
Okay? Going like, you forgot your
keys. All right, now we're going up.
No forgot the, you know, the wall, right?
I support this. The dog is just like what is
fucking happening? Like because I was thinking
(18:44):
about that, I know I'm just totally fucking off-topic, but
was when Bailey was at my place two nights ago, I was taking her
out. And when I went Bailey's at my
apartment there's another dog that lives upstairs and so we
can't, you know it's just like More involved process.
We can just like go out with herso I need like to make sure I
have the leash and I have to make sure like light is on and
(19:06):
so I took Baylor was like, really come on, and we both went
to the door and then I realized I forgot something and I turned
around. And so she turned around of
course, and followed me because she's a dog horse, she did.
And then I grabbed whatever it was I think it was the poop bags
and then I really all right, forreal.
I come on and she turned around and follow me back to the thing.
And then I was like oh hold on, I turned around like I forgot
something else and I'm the thirditeration of that I could see
(19:26):
Bailey's face. Like, what are we doing here?
Man, what's happening like this dog is no concept of like all I
require these objects they're like are we going?
Are you just doing laps around the apartment?
What is fucking happening all the weird?
Like I know buddy. I'm sorry.
We'll go. We'll go outside but now I do
need to sort of make a list especially after like a week of
(19:50):
being sick. Yeah, I do realize like when I
have a lot of stuff to do, I don't, I can't like saying, go
all. I got to do this and I have to
do that. I just know, I just remembered
that I have remembered that. I have a bunch of stuff to do in
the feelings that those in folk.And so, I think, like, unpacking
that is important, like realizing that like a lot of the
anxiety that I have around working, the shit that I have to
(20:12):
do is is invented, it's irrational.
My brain just knows that there is a quantity of things.
And then it catastrophize us from there.
It's like, oh it must be an insurmountable amount of things
because you haven't done them yet.
Oh, yeah. When really if you count a swarm
of bees it turns out it's like 6B's.
Instead of like a horrifying amount.
I think like I'm like the opposite.
(20:34):
It's like if I sit down and I think about what I have to do,
it's like I don't even know how to describe it.
Except it's like If you're in a room, you're in a room, right?
You're just chilling her room and then it's like, oh, what do
I have to do? And then it's instant swarm of
bees like, it's just like, it's not like, oh, there's like a b
and then a being that another being that Abby.
(20:55):
It's like she like. Now I'm in the high.
Fuck, you know. Yeah.
Um like if you just man, sorry, that's okay.
You know, you're very well if you have like a huge pile of
garbage, you need to start throwing away.
But any one piece of it that youremove to throw away, just going
to make the whole pile. Yeah.
Like that's like I mean, honestly, and then but like, and
that's the thing is like, and then there's just stuff like the
(21:16):
literal garbage pile that is behind her house Lake, right?
You know what I mean? And so it's like and so it's
like, for me, I have to make that fucking video.
I'm going to make this video, the video.
Have you seen the video of the guy?
And he puts like golf balls intothe jar and he goes is the Jar
full? Yeah.
Then all the kids are like, yeah, you're as full and he puts
in a bunch of sand and now the jars like more for like Little
(21:38):
Rock's and he's like now is it? Our full and they're like yeah
another joyful then he pours insane.
And into the darkness like packed.
He's like now is the driver. All these like, yeah.
And they're like, yeah. And so, the moral of the story
is supposed to be that like the golf balls are like the major
things in your life, like familyand friends in like
relationships or whatever and then the gravel is like, you
(22:00):
know, stuff like work and like remembering things.
And then the sand is like everything else, you know.
But you only have so much space for family, and you only have so
much space for working, almost almost so much space for like
everything else. But the Um, with that, the
problem, the problem with that, I'm sorry.
The problem is, Eric just slowlyturned to look at the computer.
(22:22):
You do this that you didn't yell, but you moved really far
away from the like, as if you were making know, it was like
the same volume as everything else.
Yeah else. So I was just making sure you
weren't below the gate um, but but with for the thing is like
and I don't think I don't know if this is like a me thing or
this like inner Divergent think.I think it's in her whatever to
think in some ways but is that Idon't know the difference
(22:42):
between You mean a golf ball in a grain of sand?
Yeah. You know what I mean?
Like a really don't. I don't like and and fucking
great videos, really? Yeah.
It's don't you don't anybody fucking steal that shit that's
fine. It was on the podcast, I'll
fucking screenshot time and datestamps structure is very nice
(23:02):
and I know you guys would do that.
Um, but like it's like it's likethat kind of thing.
We're just like I honestly don'tknow the difference between a
golf ball and a grain of sand and so it's like, is this a huge
deal? It's not a huge deal.
Deal until the moment where it'slike, oh, fuck, I have a day
left to. Right.
This, you know, TT RPG, chapter that I got hired to do or
whatever. And then it's like look and now
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it's a golf ball. Like it could have been a grain
of sand if I worked on it every single day but instead I'm like
fuck. Now, it's a golf ball you know.
And so anyway that's why I don'tlike the holidays I guess.
I don't know where I was going with that.
No I know what you mean. There was a Is this how
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recording? Yes.
Yeah that's it was like it's your birthday.
I know it freaked me. It's just not painting.
It's but if it's red it's recording.
Okay, I'm the scenes Katie and Eric now there's a like a
webcomic cartoon type deal. That's that's stuck with me
whereas it's like character and they're like like all right I
have stuff to do today and then there's a bunch of other like
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little characters that are the things that this characters to
do. So it's like you know, there's a
little ball and it says like dishes on it or whatever and
they're all different sizes. Like some of them are huge and
some of them are really small and he, the character goes okay,
like line up in order of ascending importance and so
standing, very close to him is like the smallest, little tiny
task, and they just get bigger and bigger.
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Until the back is like, the hugeMonumental task that he has to
do. And so he just works his way
through those first couple and then goes like okay like that
was my my day for today, you know, and then the panel sort of
restarts was like the next. He's okay, sending importance in
those little tasks have Reappeared, because they're
little tasks that just, you know, things like dishes and
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laundry like those things constantly reappear.
So, as he Chuck's away at those,like, little tasks that show up
every day, he never gets furtherto the big tasks.
And so that's like exactly. My dilemma is like, at some
point, you have to deliberately order, those things you have to
private, like, we call that prioritization.
And so like, at what point do you go?
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Okay, I'm going to take this huge fucking task and move it
here. And I mean, I guess you would
have to break. Get down into smaller tasks,
which I mean, I think people with ADHD have a difficult time
understanding the scope of tasks.
I mean, I don't think we do. We do like scientifically
heavily. We executive dysfunction.
Exactly. That's just like, no, I don't
think know. There's like there's been
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studies that Shit dawg because for me like something can either
be one. Insurmountably large task that
is like impossible or it. Is composed of infinite tasks
and are therefore is a phone. Buzzing Oh yeah, it was swear.
I hear a phone buzzing. Oh, that's going to be obnoxious
to cut out all Mark. That's okay.
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I probably won't. I got it.
So it's what's because it was onthe same table as my microphone.
So is my which uh, podcast Pro tip try to isolate the thing
that your microphone is attachedto so when something hits the
table, it doesn't fucking freak out.
But yeah, I've noticed it like for me a task that I'm having
trouble. Doing is either seems like one
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insurmountably large tasks. Like getting my car registered
for example, like I can either think of it as like one huge
terrifying thing or I can think of it as As an infinite amount
of tiny things. So it's either too big to
complete or there's too many to complete and I get like, those
are my two choices, you know. Well, that's my default, I
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suppose, I have to do, if I wantto think about other like, you
know, in a different way, I haveto do it manually.
Yeah, I have to, like, deliberately go.
Okay, doing this task requires doing these four things first.
Then these four things, you know, which I think other people
do automatically, but we don't. Yeah, so we don't like to do it
over today ssion and and tasks like Management is a significant
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part of executive dysfunction, especially in people with ADHD
and so like it is manual. Like that is part of the issue,
is that every single thing from,you know, picking up the single
piece of trash on the floor to, you know, the complex task of
like making Thanksgiving dinner those all every single one of
those has to be decided on manually.
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Like it's not like an automatic process and so like visual stuff
like making lists your spreadsheets and stuff can
really help. Help.
But it's still fundamentally taking that extra sort of piece
of energy to make the decision to prioritize in order to
actually get the task done, there's like two separate tasks
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before the task that starts, andthen that's on top of like task
initiation as well. And so it's like, it makes
sense, it's just super fucking annoying, you know, right?
I mean, I I think about like, Well, I think about when I, when
I started in kitchens, how bad Iwas at a lot of things that I
ended up being good at that, seemed to come naturally to
other people. Like not like, you know, nice
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skills and whatnot. But like, you know, prioritizing
organizing time really and a lotof these things that like it was
a big paradigm shift for me whenI realized it's not that I can't
do those things that other people seem to do, you know,
with he's like prioritizing things and breaking down tasks
and stuff like that. Yeah.
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It's not that I can't do those things, it's that I just don't
do them automatically, so I haveto learn to do it, which sucks,
but it's doable. Yeah, it's frustrating.
But it's doable that was a big paradigm shift for me.
Or it's like, it's not like I'm hopeless and I can't, it's just,
it doesn't happen automatically.I have to do it manually.
It's like walking I have to go Left Foot Right Foot left I mean
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not with walking. I don't but you know for people
that have to learn to walk that is how until they get good
enough at it where they don't have to yeah.
Yeah, and I think in the holidays, just kind of freaks me
out because I'm totally the member of the family who just
forgets like, oh, that's right. I had a flight this morning or
something like, that's always been me.
And so it's just like that, feeling of like, what am I
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forgetting right now? Just gets Amplified.
Like, what is the really important thing that I'm
forgetting right now? That's going to make my whole
family, mad at me now that they would get mad, they're very
nice, but your family's ever nice.
Yeah. Um, before we go, Go.
Yeah, I have a movie recommendation.
Okay, you okay, you know, how our, most popular episode of all
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time is the fucking Christmas Carol episode of, yes, you guys
have to watch Spirited, you haveto, with is the new movie with
Will Ferrell and Ryan Reynolds. And I want to be very clear.
I went in expecting, nothing, I walked in expecting it to be a
Hot Flaming pile of garbage on asteamy pupu.
Platter, I did. I really And I was like this is
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gonna suck it's going to be terrible.
Like I really like I cannot express how little I thought,
like, how good this movie was gonna be, I thought it was gonna
be just pile of shit, it's so good.
Like, as a scholar of Christmas Carol, it is a brilliant movie
and its musical, which, and but the music is honestly, pretty
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good as bypassing and Paul, which is cool.
But I'm just saying, I'm going to talk a lot about this movie
teaser trailer. So I'm going to do the video
essay version of the Christmas, carol episode for my YouTube
channel. Hopefully, before I my goal is
to have it posted by Christmas Christmas Carol episode.
What is that the tree one time? I got bored and figured out how
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big the turkey in A Christmas? Carol wasn't it turned out?
I was the first person in history to do so, so that's my
claim to fame on this planet. But so I'm gonna make a video,
I'm been working on a video about it, but now I'm just, I'm
like, now I'm gonna have to maketwo videos ago, don't take one
about the turkey and then one about how brilliant the
adaptation of occur. Zero's fucking get Ryan Reynolds
and Welfare on the podcast. I don't want to call it Ryan
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Reynolds and be like, this is insane is zero percent chance,
but hey, he's on Tick-Tock. Yeah.
I mean, it's Ryan Reynolds to like, I feel like if I was like,
hey man, this is, this is funny.This is, you know, yeah, and I
feel like you would appreciate the novelty of, like, you know,
one person got really curious about how big the turkey was and
now they're just the definitive source so many ways like
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related, right? If you know a discount code for
a massage chair or your related to Ryan Reynolds, Please email
us at asking if it's podcast.comemail, us a task at Beggars
choosers.com. Please, thank you very much.
Appreciate it. I believe, I believe Ryan
Reynolds to come on the podcast and talk about adaptations of a
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Christmas carol with me. I think you would.
I think you'd be great at it, too.
Yeah, I think he'd be fucking hilarious and knowledgeable and
smart. It's true.
It's a really good adaptation. I can't wait to watch.
You said you wanted to watch it closer to Christmas.
We are super cool because it is really.
Yeah. I think I spoke his yeah, her
mom's super lame. Yeah.
Anyway sweetheart, that's that. We're at time, we got, we got,
we got to go because we're supposed to stick to three
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minutes. Okay, set a goal.
I just want to talk about adaptations over Christmas
Carol. We got.
Hey, we, this is our podcast will make as many episodes we
want. When you just, you know, special
bonus episode, come back on Thursday.
What I yell about adaptations ofa Christmas carol?
Well, of KS. Thank you so much for being
everybody. I really appreciate it.
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Thanks. For listening everybody.
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Hi Katie. Hi everybody.
Although hi Eric. Also, I just like, want to say
immediately before we started recording this Eric was like,
would you like me to turn off the overhead light?
And I honestly don't know if I've ever felt so loved.
I always write is really appreciate that.
You like understand that. As like a thing of course
sweetie. I always think about the
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overhead lights It's in. It's like that.
Like that. How the overhead lights will
light go out in the house. Yeah.
And we just don't know. Yeah.
The song I'm just like every dayof the month, the big light does
not come on unless you're cleaning.
It's okay. If you're cleaning cleaning,
yes, like cleaning. But it's like, otherwise, it's
like why why would you put on anoverhead light Wells?
I think we talked about, he's like last week, but how much
lighting affects my focus? Like, if I'm like in a room and
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my desk is significantly lit, but the rest of the room is
like, you know, not significantly.
Let that it's like way easier for me to focus and officials
like the entire room is bright. So then it's like, Yeah, it's
like an analogy for my focus. Anyways, you know, it's like
little spotlights. I gotta get like, little pin
lights and put them on like, just different stuff.
Oh yeah. Just like now, you're making
coffee. Yeah.
Have like a little penlight. Well, I think about the stuff,
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you know, light as a focused. Jesus Christ.
Make a little bit more noise, a tear their tail down.
My fault is the chair, okay. I should have a new one coming
and then you can have. You want my old chair?
Thanks those fines. Good.
That's here. I still can't believe he's
really terrific people. This that's like your third desk
chair. I know I can't find one.
That's comfortable. I'm sorry sweets I back that
Kickstarter for that chair. That is supposed to like, you
(01:34):
know, fold all the different ways you can sit on it all.
Weird, it's a bisexual chair, but it's been held up in like
Kickstarter Howell for like, a year and it's like, but every
time they like, send up an update, they're like, yeah.
Like here's what like, and it's,they're clearly doing a lot of
work on it, but I've been waiting, like a year for my
terrible than Logitech. Shout-out to Logitech, by
(01:56):
Logitech products because they sponsored me.
But Logitech is Apparently also sending me a chair so you can
have my bicycle chair. Better webcams would be nice.
I that twitchcon. There's both there's a huge like
sign was like lit up from the back sign and the top of it, it
said, the future of gaming and it was like exactly the font and
style. You think it was like very cool.
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And many that there was like this person sitting in like a
chair and they were like they had their controller and it was
like it's really cool like the photo it man and I was like what
is that fucking sign for? It just to the future of gaming.
And I was like, Like okay. And you know, I was sort of
moseying my way around, eventually I finally got to that
Booth with the big sign and it was the chair.
The chair with a future game is the future of gaming.
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That was very impressive chair at, I know, right?
Very impressive gelik. Some team of people got paid to
like sit there and go. Okay, how do we advertise this
fucking chair? The chairman the Future.
Okay, me. I mean, God bless them, the
confidence, you know, it's like I had no idea there's like five
thousand dollar office chairs, Jesus really?
I was like what is the most money?
He's better off his shirt and I was like maybe a grand like I
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was like 5 like an executive like like no dude, they're like
expensive as office chairs in the world and then like gaming
chairs and shit but also I really want one of those like
massage chairs. Oh yeah.
We had one of those of the Airbnb for Chad and it literally
changed my life. Oh yeah.
Like it was like somebody stealing we can put in here and
then you can see. Ya thinking is I was like but
also that's like they're like really expensive.
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I do wonder. What like the max value of a
chair is that isn't like novel like in like in food There can
be like a dessert that's like a thousand dollars and it's like
well yeah but they just cover itin like gold leaf and needlessly
expensive ingredient, you know, like it's not really worth its
novel that its cost that much and I feel like a chair is the
same thing. Like a look 50 Grand chairs.
Like well yeah, it's because it's ostrich whatever and it you
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know wood from the whatever likeI'm wondering just based on
function solely on function how much like, how much would
somebody pay for a purely functional chair?
I think a lot but like at some point, there's a word for this.
I can't remember. There's a type of object that
doesn't follow regular economic like supply and demand rules,
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like, it's expensive because it's expensive.
Like it's worth a lot because it's worth a lot, because it's
rare, because it's whatever treasure cost, 20 thousand
dollars, Jesus Christ. But it does have it, it's like,
oh, it's it's like the Mercedes.Like, if anybody happens to work
for Sleep Galleria and you can get me a sick, employee
(04:28):
discount. I Desperately want a massage
chair, but I'm poor. So just, you know.
That's anyway. Hi everybody.
Welcome, I'm mad. At trying to figure out the name
that we were recording at the same time?
No, no. I was leaning.
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And I when I remember goes leaning into the microphone.
That's okay. There's a word.
There's a word. There's a word for it.
Like a specific type of object that is that people want By
simply because it's very expensive you know it's like a
status symbol thing. Like there's an app that's like
a hundred thousand dollars and it's just called like I am rich
or something. Okay.
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Is it just called a status symbol is that the word you're
looking for? Know it's like a dunning's
object or something. Dunning-kruger effect know that
but I was why I thought about that.
Okay, I'm going to I'm going to spend my yard reaction.
The Occam's razor, I'm just going to start naming things
that have cool names. Is it giffen Goods may be given
(05:34):
a MacGuffin? No, not a MacGuffin.
But maybe I don't know. Okay, I'm I'm dropping it.
I'm dropping it. It's okay.
You'll think I'm sure dot MP4 did a video on it.
I was like, that's cool word. I'm remember it.
And now, I don't. Sorry, Dexter.
That's your channels. Great go follow Dexter dot MP4.
On on Tick-Tock anywho. So what we were gonna talk about
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today before we started talking about expensive upstairs but
seriously, if anybody has a massage chair discount code, ask
him because podcast.com I'm desperate please, I'm begging
you. Um but no so I've been sick.
And then we got our covid boosters.
Yeah. And I got sick again and so I've
been pretty much sick for two weeks straight.
(06:18):
Yeah. It's been really fun.
I'm sorry. I was sick for three days or
not, not not, not until we're not, we're not competing here
for second just for context for The Listener.
Yeah, this is carried in the center.
We were both very, very sick, very sick for several 10 times,
but I got me thinking it got me thinking because we were sick
right before, Thanksgiving. Yeah.
Like through the week, The week I started feeling better the
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morning before of the day beforethat know the morning of
Thanksgiving actually. Yeah because the yeah and we
want to be cooking Thanksgiving dinner on Saturday.
Yeah because it was like well that was the thing.
That was what got me thinking about what I think we were
supposed to talk about which is not office chairs but is the
fact that with neurodivergent see it's so easy to like have
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things suddenly compound like today was like a really good
example because I am still Stillsick, I still do not feel great
and because of that, I realized that I was like behind on my
emails, but because I was behindon my emails, I realized that I
had forgotten to pay my credit card bill which is fine.
Like I paid it, but I was also supposed to make hotel
reservations today for a convention that we have coming
up because the room block was opening up and so then I
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couldn't do that because I forgot to pay off my credit card
it was like this whole thing of just because I had a headache,
three days ago, it was like, youknow what I mean?
Like the cause and effect there.And so it just made me think
about how much worse it is. During like the holidays that
was I made a video about that. I don't remember what I call
them. I was like Swallowed, a Fly
problems. It's like you swallow something.
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There was do this. I'm going to do something like
this, you know, it's like five stages long.
Now, like the things you have tosolve.
Yeah, I know. I mean, I get really, I don't
really, I didn't realize until this year, that I get stressed
around the holidays and yeah, being sick.
It it like, makes I put this it,like it gives something for my
executive dysfunction to like lean on.
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It's like, no. I'm Not just like this all the
time. I'm just like this because, you
know, I'm very sick or whatever,you know, body aches, or I've a
headache or something like that.So my executive function is
like, it's like, oh my God, it'slike a vacation for my executive
function, it just gets to decidethat I'm just going to run
rampant, aah. And then yes, problems just
start like piling up. Yeah.
So what do you do? What do I do?
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Yeah, lists maybe list. Yeah, I got like a prep list.
I mean, I think that's cooked training.
But yeah, propolis stuff and it's usually like it hinges for
me. It usually Is on one thing or a
couple of things are not hinges.That's not the word.
But it can also sort of be traced back to one thing.
Like, for me, it's a lot of times like, like my desk gets
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really cluttered and so I hate sitting on my desk and I avoid
it and so like, you know, I'll get sick or something, which
means I'm not, I'm less likely to like, take the dishes that
I'm using on my desk downstairs or take out the trash next to my
desk that's full. So I end up just sort of like
leaving trash places and as thathappens, and it's like, oh, I
have to, you know, edit that episode So door, right?
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That thing or email that person,but I don't to sit at my desk or
I don't want to like, I don't feel like my deck at desk is a
productive place. So it just gets like dirtier as
I sit there and foots about, or something like that.
And then, that starts to affect my self-esteem, like, the
cleanliness of my desk. It's all varied escalated.
Well, this this hypothetical with it at that, it starts to
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affect my self-esteem, which makes it like, oh, I don't want
to make contact because I want to look at my own fucking face.
You know. Or like I don't want to like
call my mom, like I was Too because, you know, I'm
existentially embarrassed or whatever.
But and so usually I can follow that train back of like, why
didn't I want to do that? Oh, it's because I didn't want
to sit at my desk. Why don't want to sit at my
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desk. I didn't work, so my toes
because it's dirty, it's dirty because in take the trash out.
So like you can kind of follow back to like oh if I clear off
my desk, then I'll at least it doesn't solve everything but
like at least allows me to start.
Yeah. But then it's also like but also
you have to go buy Christmas presents and And make
Thanksgiving dinner, although wekind of crush Thanksgiving this
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year. Yeah, because it is this because
it turn there's no rules that say, you have to do a
Thanksgiving dinner a on Thanksgiving, right?
Or be a have traditionally Thanksgiving Foods.
We had steak filet mignon, Fletcher, ignorance, and Billy
had some tools nearly had a little bit just a little bit by
little bit but it was I do want to let I know that you're not
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supposed to don't fucking don't fucking send me a mean.
Meow, I know this is bad to do but I've never gotten a feed a
dog under the table before and so I was like it was like I felt
like my childhood was a little bit like fulfilled.
It is very nice. Now is bad.
I know it's bad and you're not supposed to because otherwise
you'd almost bother you under the table for the rest of your
life, but it was just like, I was like, I just got to, like
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slipper pieces, like, the nicestthing I've heard always wanted
to do that. It's really nice.
It's really shows you how littlewe use the dining room table.
First time we sat at the table, like a month, it's what I think
when you feed it, all going to be Table.
There's all automatically like aclose-up shot from underneath
the table of the dog's perspective.
Yeah. So like the audience knows that
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you didn't like the casserole. You know.
It's like an exposition, those good.
I was getting all the good shit.Yeah.
How do you propose to solve the things piling up like that?
Honestly, you said a list and I went oh, I should do that.
Like because my thing is like I'm in this like weird place
where like like I'm dealing witha lot of like, medical stuff and
like, I'm starting to feel that like end-of-the-year pressure of
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time where I've got, we've got like packs coming up, which by
the way, we're going to be a Pax.
You we will also be a packs, yougot pressure of time, but then
we've also got, like, I've got acouple of like writing deadlines
that. I'm not saying I forgot about,
but I am saying I've been putting off slightly and then
like just like the DVD. So I like it's just I have like
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a lot but then it's like, the small, like, life stuff on top
of that. Like Do you pay your credit
card? The answer was no like, and
again, I paid. It was fine.
It was not a big deal but it's just like I feel like it's like
it's like painting for gold, youknow how like you you take the
thing and you and then she shakeout and then all the little
pieces like fall. Yeah, that's what I feel but I
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feel like my like you know you like you shake the thing and
then there's like the big stuff and then there's like the second
tier so if you like as you go down it's just like I lose track
of like the small little pieces that are like falling through
the what is it? A sieve sieve.
Don't know how you say it. A little that you Paying for:
and I'm sure he's got away. Those are feeling a feeling of I
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do like prospecting is like a different thing but I feel like
a sleuth is like the lon there'slike a long life loses a person
who solves Mysteries. Oh a sluice excuse me.
It's loose, it's loose is like along like yeah panting.
Yeah, but he likes loose in the but I think there's like a word
(13:07):
for like the yeah, the pan itself it's like made out of
like, you know, like, net. Not Adding like, oh, like you
said, it like a white. Like a sifter?
Yeah, it's like when you sift flour.
Yeah. But but with goals, not scared
Rivers. Is when you're like an old-timey
guy, who saved ours gold, another golden ending at
suspenders on that suspenders. Well, the bullet hole and I'm
ready? Ready?
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Like Henley. It's got to be a Heavenly.
Yeah. And your knees.
Go like outwards. Yeah.
It's like a little bit, you know, like you say howdy there
partner like a weird weird aboutthat's very good.
We're painting a vivid mental image.
Is that right? Well how do you like what what
usually happens when you well I guess when you realize that you
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are forgetting all those things or I guess when or when the
consequences of forgetting thosethings start to come to a head.
I mean for me it's like I think it's like a two-fold thing of I
have to find a like a day to step on the brakes which I think
is probably going to be tomorrowwhere I just sit down and that's
where I started doing list because I don't notice it, I
don't notice the like slow decline, which is honestly one
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of my toxic traits is Don't notice the slow fall.
I only noticed what? I'm like already like in like
the snowball and I'm like, rolling down the hill, you know
what I mean? Like, fuck.
I forgot to do that, too. Um, and so that's why I try so
hard to like not to like keep track of everything.
But then what, it's like the minute that I slip or I get sick
or, you know, it's like hey the holidays and Thanksgiving and
(14:31):
you're going through a bunch of medical shit and like all the
stuff. And so then it's like, oh fuck
like now I'm already halfway down the hill before I even
noticed. And so for me, it's about just
like finding a I don't know, a proverbial Branch to grab onto
to just be like, okay what do I have to get done this week?
Like what is happening this week?
You know, and sort of like beating it out that way.
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But yeah yeah I was just thinking outside of an analogy
we're like At any given time. It's hard for me to, like, sit
there and count and list the things that like I have to do.
Yeah, I just think of them sort of periodically.
So I just remember that I have remembered a lot of things that
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I have to do. I do remember what they are.
I keep thinking, like, if you'reapplying like, well Minecraft
and you had like a Frito really short render distance on so you
can only see like, you know, 16 blocks around you or something
like that and there were like a bunch of mobs around a bunch of,
yeah. NPCs a bunch of animals and
every once in a while one would like walk through the render
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distance, you could like see like oh there's a sheep.
Cool but then it walks out and then later like a cow will walk
through and it's like, oh there's a cow right down the
cow. You know, that's kind of what it
feels like to remember the stuffthat I have to do is like I
can't it's really hard for me tojust sit and go.
What do I have to do? Yeah, because all usually spin
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out, I'll think of things, that's what I like to highs in
the sky stuff. Not like the immediate things.
And I need to do what they like.I should, you know, redo my
entire twitch stream which I did.
No. Yeah, I also thought of
something and I'm going to say to on the podcast because I want
to hear your reaction, okay. I think that we should move.
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I don't know why. This this is all I thought about
last night. I think we should move that
stuff, the costume racks for those of you who aren't in our
office at home, mom, and we should move that stuff and you
should build a loft bed. Oh, I can get down with a lot.
You could have like a little cave area for your desk and then
you could have a bed that's I grew up with a bed like that my
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dad and I built one of the firstthings I built out of like
two-by-fours and stuff was my brother and I had bunk beds that
we built. And then, when my brother I got
separate rooms I just had a loftbed.
Yeah, I've been thinking about that I was thinking about like
putting because I was also thinking about, I don't know why
I felt the need to bring this upon the podcast, but I was
thinking, but that's like that'slike what I was saying.
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I was like, it's not like the writing that I have.
Like a week left to turn in. It's not.
I was like what if we built loftbeds and everything all of the
offices for more bedding. What I was worried about last
night? Yeah.
No. I like if I were to sit down
right now which I'm probably do after we after we finish this.
If I just like sit down and makea list which I, you know, I do
and I advocate for think it's a good idea.
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It's a my mind immediately goes blank of like the shit that I
have to do and I can like, thinkof stuff.
But it's never the stuff that like I thought of because it was
urgent. It's the stuff that I thought
Out of because my brain thought it was interesting.
Yeah, like rearranging the room or something like that.
It's not like what are the actual immediate thing is that
you need to do to make you feel like you did some shit today you
know? Yeah.
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Did you just remember something?I just remember something I have
to order to Target, I mean. Yeah.
But okay, as I got to get a thing for a video.
Okay. I gotta get.
Do I need? No we have I can we have do
every show dog collars. I mean I'm sure I've got a few
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colors like red hair. Yeah, I figure.
We jumped. Okay, I don't know why we would
have them but I don't know. Either damnedest thing.
Known to be a dog in a video andI know it's going to start the
onslaught of people. It's being like, are you
actually going to make the video?
Yeah. Oh, I thought you were joking.
No, no. It's real video.
Yeah. What is going to be the video is
going to be a the dog of a person with ADHD and it's just
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going to be like a perspective of the did the dog of the person
who has ADHD like oh yeah, second breakfast.
Fist. Nice, they forgot they fed them
once. You know are like just standing
at the door. Like oh well we're going back.
Okay? Going like, you forgot your
keys. All right, now we're going up.
No forgot the, you know, the wall, right?
I support this. The dog is just like what is
fucking happening? Like because I was thinking
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about that, I know I'm just totally fucking off-topic, but
was when Bailey was at my place two nights ago, I was taking her
out. And when I went Bailey's at my
apartment there's another dog that lives upstairs and so we
can't, you know it's just like More involved process.
We can just like go out with herso I need like to make sure I
have the leash and I have to make sure like light is on and
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so I took Baylor was like, really come on, and we both went
to the door and then I realized I forgot something and I turned
around. And so she turned around of
course, and followed me because she's a dog horse, she did.
And then I grabbed whatever it was I think it was the poop bags
and then I really all right, forreal.
I come on and she turned around and follow me back to the thing.
And then I was like oh hold on, I turned around like I forgot
something else and I'm the thirditeration of that I could see
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Bailey's face. Like, what are we doing here?
Man, what's happening like this dog is no concept of like all I
require these objects they're like are we going?
Are you just doing laps around the apartment?
What is fucking happening all the weird?
Like I know buddy. I'm sorry.
We'll go. We'll go outside but now I do
need to sort of make a list especially after like a week of
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being sick. Yeah, I do realize like when I
have a lot of stuff to do, I don't, I can't like saying, go
all. I got to do this and I have to
do that. I just know, I just remembered
that I have remembered that. I have a bunch of stuff to do in
the feelings that those in folk.And so, I think, like, unpacking
that is important, like realizing that like a lot of the
anxiety that I have around working, the shit that I have to
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do is is invented, it's irrational.
My brain just knows that there is a quantity of things.
And then it catastrophize us from there.
It's like, oh it must be an insurmountable amount of things
because you haven't done them yet.
Oh, yeah. When really if you count a swarm
of bees it turns out it's like 6B's.
Instead of like a horrifying amount.
I think like I'm like the opposite.
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It's like if I sit down and I think about what I have to do,
it's like I don't even know how to describe it.
Except it's like If you're in a room, you're in a room, right?
You're just chilling her room and then it's like, oh, what do
I have to do? And then it's instant swarm of
bees like, it's just like, it's not like, oh, there's like a b
and then a being that another being that Abby.
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It's like she like. Now I'm in the high.
Fuck, you know. Yeah.
Um like if you just man, sorry, that's okay.
You know, you're very well if you have like a huge pile of
garbage, you need to start throwing away.
But any one piece of it that youremove to throw away, just going
to make the whole pile. Yeah.
Like that's like I mean, honestly, and then but like, and
that's the thing is like, and then there's just stuff like the
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literal garbage pile that is behind her house Lake, right?
You know what I mean? And so it's like and so it's
like, for me, I have to make that fucking video.
I'm going to make this video, the video.
Have you seen the video of the guy?
And he puts like golf balls intothe jar and he goes is the Jar
full? Yeah.
Then all the kids are like, yeah, you're as full and he puts
in a bunch of sand and now the jars like more for like Little
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Rock's and he's like now is it? Our full and they're like yeah
another joyful then he pours insane.
And into the darkness like packed.
He's like now is the driver. All these like, yeah.
And they're like, yeah. And so, the moral of the story
is supposed to be that like the golf balls are like the major
things in your life, like familyand friends in like
relationships or whatever and then the gravel is like, you
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know, stuff like work and like remembering things.
And then the sand is like everything else, you know.
But you only have so much space for family, and you only have so
much space for working, almost almost so much space for like
everything else. But the Um, with that, the
problem, the problem with that, I'm sorry.
The problem is, Eric just slowlyturned to look at the computer.
(22:22):
You do this that you didn't yell, but you moved really far
away from the like, as if you were making know, it was like
the same volume as everything else.
Yeah else. So I was just making sure you
weren't below the gate um, but but with for the thing is like
and I don't think I don't know if this is like a me thing or
this like inner Divergent think.I think it's in her whatever to
think in some ways but is that Idon't know the difference
(22:42):
between You mean a golf ball in a grain of sand?
Yeah. You know what I mean?
Like a really don't. I don't like and and fucking
great videos, really? Yeah.
It's don't you don't anybody fucking steal that shit that's
fine. It was on the podcast, I'll
fucking screenshot time and datestamps structure is very nice
(23:02):
and I know you guys would do that.
Um, but like it's like it's likethat kind of thing.
We're just like I honestly don'tknow the difference between a
golf ball and a grain of sand and so it's like, is this a huge
deal? It's not a huge deal.
Deal until the moment where it'slike, oh, fuck, I have a day
left to. Right.
This, you know, TT RPG, chapter that I got hired to do or
whatever. And then it's like look and now
(23:23):
it's a golf ball. Like it could have been a grain
of sand if I worked on it every single day but instead I'm like
fuck. Now, it's a golf ball you know.
And so anyway that's why I don'tlike the holidays I guess.
I don't know where I was going with that.
No I know what you mean. There was a Is this how
(23:43):
recording? Yes.
Yeah that's it was like it's your birthday.
I know it freaked me. It's just not painting.
It's but if it's red it's recording.
Okay, I'm the scenes Katie and Eric now there's a like a
webcomic cartoon type deal. That's that's stuck with me
whereas it's like character and they're like like all right I
have stuff to do today and then there's a bunch of other like
(24:03):
little characters that are the things that this characters to
do. So it's like you know, there's a
little ball and it says like dishes on it or whatever and
they're all different sizes. Like some of them are huge and
some of them are really small and he, the character goes okay,
like line up in order of ascending importance and so
standing, very close to him is like the smallest, little tiny
task, and they just get bigger and bigger.
(24:25):
Until the back is like, the hugeMonumental task that he has to
do. And so he just works his way
through those first couple and then goes like okay like that
was my my day for today, you know, and then the panel sort of
restarts was like the next. He's okay, sending importance in
those little tasks have Reappeared, because they're
little tasks that just, you know, things like dishes and
(24:46):
laundry like those things constantly reappear.
So, as he Chuck's away at those,like, little tasks that show up
every day, he never gets furtherto the big tasks.
And so that's like exactly. My dilemma is like, at some
point, you have to deliberately order, those things you have to
private, like, we call that prioritization.
And so like, at what point do you go?
(25:07):
Okay, I'm going to take this huge fucking task and move it
here. And I mean, I guess you would
have to break. Get down into smaller tasks,
which I mean, I think people with ADHD have a difficult time
understanding the scope of tasks.
I mean, I don't think we do. We do like scientifically
heavily. We executive dysfunction.
Exactly. That's just like, no, I don't
think know. There's like there's been
(25:28):
studies that Shit dawg because for me like something can either
be one. Insurmountably large task that
is like impossible or it. Is composed of infinite tasks
and are therefore is a phone. Buzzing Oh yeah, it was swear.
I hear a phone buzzing. Oh, that's going to be obnoxious
to cut out all Mark. That's okay.
(25:49):
I probably won't. I got it.
So it's what's because it was onthe same table as my microphone.
So is my which uh, podcast Pro tip try to isolate the thing
that your microphone is attachedto so when something hits the
table, it doesn't fucking freak out.
But yeah, I've noticed it like for me a task that I'm having
trouble. Doing is either seems like one
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insurmountably large tasks. Like getting my car registered
for example, like I can either think of it as like one huge
terrifying thing or I can think of it as As an infinite amount
of tiny things. So it's either too big to
complete or there's too many to complete and I get like, those
are my two choices, you know. Well, that's my default, I
(26:31):
suppose, I have to do, if I wantto think about other like, you
know, in a different way, I haveto do it manually.
Yeah, I have to, like, deliberately go.
Okay, doing this task requires doing these four things first.
Then these four things, you know, which I think other people
do automatically, but we don't. Yeah, so we don't like to do it
over today ssion and and tasks like Management is a significant
(26:53):
part of executive dysfunction, especially in people with ADHD
and so like it is manual. Like that is part of the issue,
is that every single thing from,you know, picking up the single
piece of trash on the floor to, you know, the complex task of
like making Thanksgiving dinner those all every single one of
those has to be decided on manually.
(27:14):
Like it's not like an automatic process and so like visual stuff
like making lists your spreadsheets and stuff can
really help. Help.
But it's still fundamentally taking that extra sort of piece
of energy to make the decision to prioritize in order to
actually get the task done, there's like two separate tasks
(27:34):
before the task that starts, andthen that's on top of like task
initiation as well. And so it's like, it makes
sense, it's just super fucking annoying, you know, right?
I mean, I I think about like, Well, I think about when I, when
I started in kitchens, how bad Iwas at a lot of things that I
ended up being good at that, seemed to come naturally to
other people. Like not like, you know, nice
(27:54):
skills and whatnot. But like, you know, prioritizing
organizing time really and a lotof these things that like it was
a big paradigm shift for me whenI realized it's not that I can't
do those things that other people seem to do, you know,
with he's like prioritizing things and breaking down tasks
and stuff like that. Yeah.
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It's not that I can't do those things, it's that I just don't
do them automatically, so I haveto learn to do it, which sucks,
but it's doable. Yeah, it's frustrating.
But it's doable that was a big paradigm shift for me.
Or it's like, it's not like I'm hopeless and I can't, it's just,
it doesn't happen automatically.I have to do it manually.
It's like walking I have to go Left Foot Right Foot left I mean
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not with walking. I don't but you know for people
that have to learn to walk that is how until they get good
enough at it where they don't have to yeah.
Yeah, and I think in the holidays, just kind of freaks me
out because I'm totally the member of the family who just
forgets like, oh, that's right. I had a flight this morning or
something like, that's always been me.
And so it's just like that, feeling of like, what am I
(29:00):
forgetting right now? Just gets Amplified.
Like, what is the really important thing that I'm
forgetting right now? That's going to make my whole
family, mad at me now that they would get mad, they're very
nice, but your family's ever nice.
Yeah. Um, before we go, Go.
Yeah, I have a movie recommendation.
Okay, you okay, you know, how our, most popular episode of all
(29:24):
time is the fucking Christmas Carol episode of, yes, you guys
have to watch Spirited, you haveto, with is the new movie with
Will Ferrell and Ryan Reynolds. And I want to be very clear.
I went in expecting, nothing, I walked in expecting it to be a
Hot Flaming pile of garbage on asteamy pupu.
Platter, I did. I really And I was like this is
(29:45):
gonna suck it's going to be terrible.
Like I really like I cannot express how little I thought,
like, how good this movie was gonna be, I thought it was gonna
be just pile of shit, it's so good.
Like, as a scholar of Christmas Carol, it is a brilliant movie
and its musical, which, and but the music is honestly, pretty
(30:07):
good as bypassing and Paul, which is cool.
But I'm just saying, I'm going to talk a lot about this movie
teaser trailer. So I'm going to do the video
essay version of the Christmas, carol episode for my YouTube
channel. Hopefully, before I my goal is
to have it posted by Christmas Christmas Carol episode.
What is that the tree one time? I got bored and figured out how
(30:28):
big the turkey in A Christmas? Carol wasn't it turned out?
I was the first person in history to do so, so that's my
claim to fame on this planet. But so I'm gonna make a video,
I'm been working on a video about it, but now I'm just, I'm
like, now I'm gonna have to maketwo videos ago, don't take one
about the turkey and then one about how brilliant the
adaptation of occur. Zero's fucking get Ryan Reynolds
and Welfare on the podcast. I don't want to call it Ryan
(30:48):
Reynolds and be like, this is insane is zero percent chance,
but hey, he's on Tick-Tock. Yeah.
I mean, it's Ryan Reynolds to like, I feel like if I was like,
hey man, this is, this is funny.This is, you know, yeah, and I
feel like you would appreciate the novelty of, like, you know,
one person got really curious about how big the turkey was and
now they're just the definitive source so many ways like
(31:10):
related, right? If you know a discount code for
a massage chair or your related to Ryan Reynolds, Please email
us at asking if it's podcast.comemail, us a task at Beggars
choosers.com. Please, thank you very much.
Appreciate it. I believe, I believe Ryan
Reynolds to come on the podcast and talk about adaptations of a
(31:31):
Christmas carol with me. I think you would.
I think you'd be great at it, too.
Yeah, I think he'd be fucking hilarious and knowledgeable and
smart. It's true.
It's a really good adaptation. I can't wait to watch.
You said you wanted to watch it closer to Christmas.
We are super cool because it is really.
Yeah. I think I spoke his yeah, her
mom's super lame. Yeah.
Anyway sweetheart, that's that. We're at time, we got, we got,
we got to go because we're supposed to stick to three
(31:53):
minutes. Okay, set a goal.
I just want to talk about adaptations over Christmas
Carol. We got.
Hey, we, this is our podcast will make as many episodes we
want. When you just, you know, special
bonus episode, come back on Thursday.
What I yell about adaptations ofa Christmas carol?
Well, of KS. Thank you so much for being
everybody. I really appreciate it.
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