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April 11, 2023 42 mins

In this episode, Cate and Erik sit down to answer a 'pie in the sky' question- what would you do if you have unlimited access to money, time and resources to support your ADHD? Cate talks about pile-on task management, Erik talks task debt, and they discuss the difference between starting and overwhelm with task management and ADHD.


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(00:12):
Curious like completely run out of steam like you're like, yeah,
I'm gonna do this thing and thenyou just go to do it and then
you're like, actually no steam in the choo-choo train.
Yeah, that's what just happened to me.
Two things actually run out of steam.
They don't because it's in a container, right?
I think. Think you would run out of like
the coal, that would burn the fire.

(00:34):
That would like, so I feel like but like running out of coal is
like the sounds dumb. Yeah.
You're like oh no. I'm out of clothes.
Like we'll go get some more but like steam.
Steam is like a feminist combustion, you can't like it's
like in the air. Yeah.
You know, magic there's a whole thing but we started, by the
way. I've decided we're sorry sorry

(00:55):
there's nothing good. I'm not super into hazing but
this is funny where like if there's a New person.
I'm like a job site, like a construction site.
Oh yeah. I'll just ask them to do
something impossible. Like he could you go grab me a
bit. Just bring me a bag of steam.
Yeah, I like that. No, it's just right.
It's yeah, it's in the truck over there.
Just bring me back a steam real quick like yeah sure.
Okay because they yeah when I I got a headlight fluid this one.

(01:18):
And I was like, that's not a thing.
They're like Ah, that's me, that's bad.
Don't do that to people. Hey everybody!
Hi! It's me.
Katie asaurus, he silenced me. Hey, good and welcome back to in
Shepherdstown. That was very good and if you're
thinking to yourself, Holy shit potatoes which is a thing that I

(01:41):
say to myself frequently and often ship potatoes.
Wow. Does this sound good?
Is because we're coming to you live from the infinite quiz
podcast boost ya got a booth I'mmoving in with Katie.
So surprised and room like a whole room.
Yeah there's area. Yeah.
Don't make it sound like I'm making you live in the closet.

(02:03):
You're going to do whatever I want.
I can use those. It's like you're wondering did
you whatever we are covered under the stairs which to live.
If slide my dinner under the door a trade I just saw
Tick-Tock. It must have been an AI thing.
Which dude how fucking weird is it?
Now it's upsetting that like Chris came home.

(02:24):
Chris went to the Half Price Books, right?
And he came home with some collage books for you, the
disciplic interesting image, isn't it?
And I remember looking through all these illustrations and
they're really good thinking. Wow, a person Drew, all of these
That's like, what I do know. In the past couple of days, I've
gone like donor weird rabbit hole with, like, AI stuff.

(02:45):
And, like, I've started like, looking at, like, how much like,
especially like to text to speech stuff.
Yeah, she is freaking my shit right out.
Like, it's not. I'm don't like it and it's like,
I don't really know what's goingto happen.
But boy is it started to make mefeel like my entire career is on
the line. It's fine, I'm doing okay.

(03:05):
Hey, so you had a fun idea for it.
Cast, that's not gonna spiral. Listen to existential dread.
What was it? True.
I did first real quick. Another friend of mine who
worked in kitchens. I didn't do this but he said
that he would do this is he would ask the new person to
clean the microwave if they didn't have a micro you know,
because I mean at some point kitchens don't have microwaves
anymore and you just ask really to clean the Michael.

(03:26):
Yeah, I even feel like making popcorn on breaks.
Yeah, but where do you make yourpopcorn on your break?
Let's go. Will popcorn stand really don't
eat popcorn if you want to have a cup of nudes.
No, I'm not talking shit. My lawyer was it microwaves
absolutely have their function. What our use?
Microwaves all the time? Yeah.
What if you, you melt butter? Yeah, right.
Great. For melting butter.

(03:47):
Great for heating. Small amounts of water really
quickly. Yeah.
Super good for that pizza rolls.Yeah.
What if you want pizza rolls on your break?
I love that. Like I you're like oh Gordon
Ramsay. Use tasting menu.
Get the fuck out here. I got pizza rolls.
She thinks I guess I do family meal though.
So you probably wouldn T like pizza rolls snakes.
Yeah, that's true. That's true.
What do you want to talk about slow?

(04:07):
And also, Brought up a, i because I saw a thing where they
basically made the entire cast of Harry Potter, as if they were
Balenciaga models, and the joke was Master, has given Dobby,
pendency haga Dobby is free. That's the stupidest thing I've
ever seen. But one thing about AI is you
can make really dumb shit like that really fast anyways.

(04:29):
Well, I was thinking, we do likea pie in the sky episode this
week. We talked a lot about how
systems should be practical functional and repeatable.
Which is great, the trifecta. Yes, but it's also really fun to
just spiral around in your brain, a little for a little bit
and just think of like if you had a billion dollars in all the
space and time in the world, howwould you organize your Vogue

(04:52):
and closet, or your kitchen, or your whatever it is that you, do
your snowboarding tools, or something like that.
You know, like those big ones that, you know, you're never
going to do. But it's fun to think, like, I
had, if I had like a giant rotating thing, or something
like that, that all my stuff on.It, you know, and I feel like we
talked, we talked a lot about like, what systems should be and

(05:12):
how we use them and whatnot. But like, you know what, we all
Pie in the Sky When You Can't Sleep two in the morning think
about how we want to organize our lives.
And so I thought we could like shoot the shit about I do that.
Yeah, I do not do that. You don't do that.
No I imagine what would happen if I had the superpower where if
I shake somebody's hand I could mind control them and then I

(05:32):
figure out how quickly I could run the world.
That's that. I think about what I'm probably
asleep. Color screen savers.
Yeah, I also have a really good one, where it's, what if I
became a super famous movie star?
I also have one where it's like,how would I do a cool Casino
Heist. I have a lot of really good ones
I like thinking if I was dr. Manhattan.

(05:54):
Yeah and I could just literally be everywhere all the time and
could manipulate matter and whatnot like it was time travel one.
That was pretty good. My sister and I we like trading
back and forth, like we give each other prompt select because
we found out that we both do that fall asleep.
That's really, that's how we get.
Of each other like cool prompt sometimes.
Okay. All right.
Sorry. So probably this guy find this
guy so it's a thought experiment.

(06:14):
That's okay, so you pitch this to me to just make any sense.
And so now I'm putting it together.
So it's like a thought. Experiment of what is like, the
best case possible solution to your specific.
Whoa, yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, is it like whoa,
not as in like, whoa, yeah. Well, alright, so here's what
for so for example. Whoa, like can you pick Sure

(06:37):
like The Price is Right wheel. Well, I know you can't I mean
I'm aware of The Price is Right wheel.
Well also silicon professional kitchens the way that I would
think about like a station or whatever is if it lives on the
countertop. Like if it's always on the
countertop. Yeah that means it's get used.
It gets used everyday. If it doesn't get used everyday
it shouldn't be on the countertop.
Now this is variable like I'm not saying every day like in a

(06:57):
domestic side am going to fight you about the goddamn air.
Fryer. I'm not saying the airfryer
should be on the counter. I never That ever right?
I don't think I said that. I did that multiple times.
I don't think it's no it's mutedbut you're like this is you can
just kiss you and in like in a domestic setting and stab you
like once a week then yeah. Leave it on the counter.
Yeah. But like, if you use it once a

(07:19):
year, then there's no point in having fun again.
Margaritaville maker or whateversitting on your counter.
But so there's a lot of stuff that's like in that weird space
of, like, do I use it enough to justify leaving it and taking up
all this counter space because what's better than a clear
counter counter where you can see all the stuff that you have
that to ya. Vertical invisible.
Maybe that's true. But all right.

(07:39):
So Price is Right wheel. Okay.
Sure that I like embedded in a wall so like just the front like
number is visible. You know, it was like a big dial
kind of thing, but huge on it are like self-leveling shelves
on which each of those appliances go.
So you could be like airfryer and you would like probably
really good big like Lazy Susan like a giant sideways.
Lazy Susan. Yeah, that's pretty cool.

(08:01):
I think what have you Like you know how the Price Is, Right
wheel is like up and down, or would it be like side to side?
I'm sticking up and down for storage, you know, because if
you went outside to see, if you went like side to side with it,
they you could, you could have it like on like a slider or if
you went up and down. So it would take a couple of
hours on Space though. You know.
Like Yeah well yeah I can see that.

(08:25):
I kind of want to like mock it up.
Kind of a mock it up to also I want to point out.
Dear listener that this is recorded.
We're This day, this on our own on April 10th, April 10th 2023.
So if I see anybody patent in this, I can, this is a hold up
in court like the whole of the court.
I feel like I've seen it if you want to build a, please do build

(08:46):
it. I there's like, I saw like, I
don't like, I like not exactly but I feel like that's I feel
like there's like there's somebody else.
Well, I got the idea from there's a really rich people and
like Yang rich people houses because like, yeah, if you had
like a conveyor belt or like a thing that just like scroll.
Wait, you have got like one of those like sushi.
She restaurant conveyor belts and put all your appliances on
it, and then you have them go around the kitchen ceiling like

(09:08):
a train and then you could just like be like, did you see just
reach out? Like I like a dry cleaners, you
know, it's fucking bigger way ofremembering that your shit
exists to. Yes, just on a train.
I wouldn't want to put a train in the kitchen like above the
cabinet's is. Have it go to qu around a went
in on you. This is the thing on the East
Coast, but there are like quirkygrocery stores that have trains

(09:31):
and stuff in them likes to Leonard's.
Or that's a deep cut and it was Dau, tree mail us a skinful
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Leonard's is another place wherewe got tighter you know that was
bills Cider Mill and Branford Connecticut which was but very
exactly the same. I also had a train, they also
had a trade, very similar Vibes so I do.
I'm I'm like I'm interested in this because I feel like what

(09:53):
I'm what I keep coming to is like oh my like pie in the sky
stuff would involve like a lot of construction.
So so do you feel like it's okay.
So like a police car pile all the way in the sky.
All the way up there is, I burn this house to the ground and I
start over completely from scratch.
But that's probably too much that's like, 3.14 repeating.

(10:17):
That's funny because by yeah, because pies will see us doing
that. So we need to bring it down to
like two point one. No, it's fine Sky dude, it's
3.14 way up in that place. You know.
I burn this house to the ground then I build a new house that
has an open layout for like and then I hire a butler and his

(10:44):
name is Jeeves. Hmm.
And no Jarvis. And he does he he's audit.
He's got it. He's going to take a spot Jeeves
on the spot. You know the spot is being is
like Google Bing concierge. Now, I don't know like I don't
know, I don't know how to Pie inthe Sky because I just go oh I

(11:05):
don't have a million dollars to burn my house down.
Well you did well I mean you've been talking about built in
Yeah, four billion years. And what what what's the
function? I'm, this is not me pressing or
disagreeing with everyone. Built-ins what function do you
think the built-ins will serve? And again, that's not me saying
like what do you thinks gonna happen?
Like, I mean it like why do you rely one built-ins?

(11:26):
Because we have well, we have a lot of stuff first off but also
the way that the room is laid out, I feel like having like a
big. Okay.
Yeah, Meg has stairs. You're welcome.
Jesus Christ. Sometimes you get so mad.
I do it. So I mean I'm not I get like oh,

(11:48):
why? I like joke mad but not like,
I'm not actually met, it's okay.But it does mean that I have to,
you have to edit that. You can keep the gun.
I could people yawn. Sometimes people do.
Yeah, people do yawn. Sometimes.
Also your dice her to eat macaroni this box.
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(15:11):
She stopped eating the macaroni.She did now.
She's just licking my leg, whichI'll take but yeah, what do you
think? So like we have a lot of stuff?
I feel like the ADHD and I kind of want to talk about this in
the book, which I guess we're allowed to talk about now like
when organizing an on ADHD person stuff.

(15:34):
Yeah, I think Yeah is very different than organizing a
person with ADHD stuff because it is we have done in Tyre
lectures on this for professional organizers.
Oh shit, we have actually no. Yeah, yeah.
But like, because if you're a, Idon't say, like normal person
but like, you know, no one ATM. You know, you have your like,

(15:56):
oh, I'm into sewing. So, this is my sewing stuff and
like and here's my kitchen, whatever, when you have HD, it's
like, oh yeah, 3. Three years ago, I was really,
really, really, really into jumproping.
And it turns out there's all sorts of materials that jump
ropes can be made out of there, like historical ones.
This one's from 1930. So now I have 40, jump ropes,

(16:19):
where do I put them? You know, it's like, there's no
default thing for that. Like, yeah, Knives have knife,
blocks and coats have coat hangers layer coat racks or
whatever. But like, where do you store
your 20 pounds of juggling stuff?
Where do you store? Like oh yeah, I got really into
taking apart our seas. So I have 46 different RC car

(16:40):
motors that once a year are insanely useful.
It's like a garage you know I mean boxes but I think they
exist juggling stuff in the garage next to my to unicycles
and genomics. My Jumping Stilts.
None of, which is a joke. That's not a bad.
That's all in my garage. No.
I mean, I think like, that's oneof the things that I struggle

(17:02):
with a lot. And also, one of the Is that
I've been realizing as I've sortof been like doing therapy, more
intensively and like, trying to figure.
My life out is for me, how oftenlike the 8hd and the autism were
like, absolutely combating each other.
And it is really frustrating because like my ADHD is like I

(17:24):
want everything to be accessibleto me all the time.
I want to know exactly where it is at a glance whatever, but
then there's also this like other side of me.
That wants like everything perfectly clear.
Everything like no clutter anywhere zero clutter completely
SpaceSaver free, you know, everything lined up perfectly

(17:46):
and like those two things like they they are like a constant
war in me and so I think I get to a point where like I just get
completely overwhelmed and instead of trying to go for a
happy medium, I just go cool. I'll live in chaos because the
chaos gas is easier than having it sort of, like, half the way

(18:07):
that I want. But like so I feel like I
struggle with like pie in the sky because I can't even get to
like muffins in the sky, you know what I mean?
Because even like the muffins seem like unobtainable.
Like I feel like I could get like a Ritz cracker in this guy.
Yeah like I could get a Ritz cracker.

(18:27):
What would your Ritz cracker in there?
It's cracker in this in the sky is that also episode title just
saying No, I kind of like I thought it my head and then I
was like get one more and then Ican be an episode title know
like Ritz cracker in the sky. I think I would just have more

(18:50):
vertical storage and so like, you know, we talked about
built-ins little bit but I thinklike that's a big thing.
And like another thing that I want to do is is like I want to
make it so, you know, we can have more guests over because
now that you're moving in, You know, it's going to change the
sort of like format of the house.
So it's just kind of like one ofthose things where it's like,

(19:10):
well I need to figure out how tolike, so, I think I'm gonna get
like a Murphy bed that has like shelves.
Yeah, I'm also big into the likeMetro racks.
Those huge fucking shelves because I was thinking, like, in
Minecraft. Which Katie do you did, you
know, I like Minecraft. I had no idea, never heard of
such a, but like so in Minecraftyou have stuff that you use all

(19:31):
the time, like your nice tools and your iron and your whatever
Minecraft is a video game where you make stuff, you craft things
out of items so you often but you also collect them.
You end up with massive quantities of items.
So, anyways, but there's also like your deep storage where
it's like. I did a big mining thing a month
ago and now I have, you know, 6000 Cobblestone.

(19:56):
So you have like your deep storage was just like a big room
that's ugly and just full of chests full of all that shit.
And then you have like your immediate storage, you know.
I feel like I tried like applying that to regular life
you know because like a lot of the stuff that is around and
this is not just your your houselike in my apartment to a lot of
the stuff that is just around. All the time is stuff that

(20:17):
should be in deep storage you know like yeah a reference book
and we do storage doesn't have to be like tucked away but like
you know on a bookshelf for so it's sitting pick out different.
That means something very different to me.
What do you mean? Like I was like deep throat is
like antibiotics and a basement and like maybe you think of it
like once here? You know.
Yeah yeah so like that is largely what I'm Storage storage

(20:37):
is like put that bitch on a shelf?
Yeah no I mean that is largely what I mean with like the boxes
because then Like, oh my dear what Chris and positive for
whatever. Know, Chris thought of this the
other day he's going to put likestuff that he's not sure if he
wants to keep her. Not he's going to put it in a
bin and he's going to date the bed with like a piece of tape
and then it's like if he doesn'topen the bed and six months,
he's just going to get rid of the bed, that's some good shit.

(21:00):
And you know what that's I wouldthink to do that but there's no
fucking way. I would remember six months was
kind of cell phone alert, he waslike my tattoo system.
Chris is a people with ADHD. Frankly are fucking superheroes
to me. Wow, you'll remember that.
That's because, like, I organizeshit all the time, Amma.
Yeah. The hard part is remembering how

(21:20):
I organized it. Yeah.
And finishing organized. Because like, if half of your
shit is organized, then it doesn't particularly matter
because it's like, I need to know if I have a thing and it's
not on the parts of the working.Well, I mean, it doesn't really
matter, half organizes better than that organized.
But so, do I like? I that's where I cannot get on
board is like, there's like, a, a Perfectionist or completionist

(21:47):
streak and my heart where like that has always been the thing
that that I get hung up on is like half done is like no it has
to be completely done but what always happens is like you know,
when you get to like the end you're like reorganizing
something. And you're like, everything is
like wonderful and it's like it is place and you're like, this
is the most beautiful system I've ever seen.

(22:08):
And my broom will be beautiful forever, and then you find that
like, there's like that A handful of like weird shit.
Oh yeah and you don't know whereto put it and it doesn't go and
like any obvious you found you, you know and then you're like
okay well I guess I'll put it here but that is like it just
doesn't fit, you know? And then it's like and then
there's like and then that's thepart that like I I I will, I

(22:30):
don't finish things so I can avoid that because that to me is
the worst fucking thing in the world is when you get to like
the very end and you're like well what do I do with the blue
blah blah? Blah.
Yeah, and I'm just like, well, I'm just gonna throw it there.
I know this whole fucking thing is ruined, and all of us ever
was for nothing. I know.
It's like, when you do to me in dishes and then you think you're

(22:51):
done and there's like, a bunch of jar lids or something.
Yeah. Exact not only do I do this but
also where the fuck did they go?Do these even have jars with
them is that is this is Ritz crackers and Charlotte's.
I was talking about I also something that worked for me in
boarding school because I had very limited space that was in a
dorm room which is when my like Crafting out of weird shit.

(23:13):
Really hit full swing because I didn't have access to anything.
So I just had to make stuff out of paper clips and whatnot.
Yeah, that was boarding school. We had like no space.
We had three desk drawers in my top drawer was my hell drawer
actually, excuse me, by the end of my tenure at boarding school.
I had to drunk drawers, one was the top drawer and that was the
main junk drawer. And then the second one was

(23:34):
larger drunk drawer. So like the top one was for
basically things like, you know,wallet-sized in smaller and then
the second drunk drawer was things for a while.
It's hot like larger than wallet-sized, which it was not a
good, it was it was a nightmare in that drawer.
Don't get me wrong but it did serve.
That ever important function of when I need my desk clean, I can

(23:56):
just go and just yeah, but in the finder, which is over later,
but sometimes you gotta pass thething, you know?
But like that's the thing. Like that's again that's like
the completion as part of me is like, I like I can't clean the
top of my desk without also. Seeing all of the drawers, but
then he like organize the drawers and then you're like, oh
well, I solve all of this fucking jarmusch.

(24:17):
It's but you only get so many ofthose of the swipes before,
because you gotta swipe it, and then address it afterwards, but
I'm not gonna do reducing where you swiped into the same drawer
for like, over, like a period oflike, a long time.
Geology. Yeah.
And then there's like he archaeology of like your
interests like it's like, oh, this is like my stamp collection
period. And this is like my fucking

(24:38):
dick. Like I like I was going through
boxes the other day and I was like, oh right I was in like
crochet for like six months, like I just like oh yeah, like
and it's just like, I don't know.
I keep coming back to my neurodivergent craft exchange
ideas. I was just thinking of that too.
Yeah. There's a sensor that free craft

(24:59):
store plays in Atlanta. Maybe just a free crust or a
shitty place that we went to andI think was like I don't
remember where it was Richmond, Richmond and say yeah, it's like
that but and it lands had I can't We should bring.
I would be glad to mental pilot.All of those bins.
Yeah, Hobbies rock store, that would be a fucking oh hobby

(25:20):
swaps, dude. Hey, I got into juggling now.
I don't care about juggling. Yeah, you are anybody new
unicycle? Because I have to, as we're do
you have to a single whole bicycle?
You do. Ya, gotta just got it in two
parts. Yeah.
You had the, the payoff at the layaway plan, so silly a minute.
Like I don't even know why I have one.

(25:41):
I never Ever learned, I was liketotally Gonna Learn but I never
did something that I have done in the past in, this is actually
works really well for me, if I like, remember to like do it and
we do this when we were packing for camping.
But whenever I took something away, we're a night out, not
sorry. Not whenever I do this like I do
it every time but yeah, I do this occasionally and I would

(26:02):
like this to be the case that I do it every time, but what I
took something away in a box to just make a list of what's in
the box and put it on the front.And which like but the thing is
Katie, yes, is if you top put stuff away to box, and you write
a list of what's in the box and you put on the front if you're
not watching, I don't want to, Idon't want to make

(26:24):
generalizations here if I'm not a billion percent accurate or
certain that that list is accurate that I did write down
everything in the correct quantity.
That's in that box. Yeah, then it doesn't work.
Yeah. Because then I'll just look if
I'm not certain that it's correct.
Then I'll have to check the box anyway.
Well, yeah, but either way is still useful even if you're not

(26:44):
certain because then you can go like, oh, that's even just
walking down. You like?
Oh, that's right. I wasn't a juggling or whatever.
I wasn't it. Whenever it's a way of like deep
storing things while making it less likely that you'll forget
that they exist less work for me.
It works for me with random clapcrafting stuff.
Works me with camping stuff. Yeah, anything that goes in like
bins, you know, all I want to dois clean the kitchen, but I'm

(27:05):
just like so overwhelmed. Bring clean the kitchen after
this. Yeah, sounds like a great time.
It doesn't know. Doesn't it sounds like a fucking
terrible time. But hey, Will embrace the suck.
That's true. I want to, I want to just I want
to do what we talked about last week.
I want to pull everything out and move in.
Yeah, what's called what? I'm excited for it.
So increases comical Chrome. So dear listener.
There's a room in that in this that Chris has a lot of he's

(27:26):
been collecting comic books for his entire life.
And either way he got some like affordably is he buys them in
bulk like he'll go around and find a place.
Should I not be telling people like Chris is Congress isn't
like Give you look like dude. There's a billion-dollar comic
in there. We don't want anybody know he
has. Superman number one.
Come. Yeah, no, I wish Action Comics.
If I pop fucking pie in the sky,that would be my like, casual

(27:48):
Christmas present. Be like, oh yeah, I got you this
Action. Comics number one and Biddy,
Merry Christmas. But so he rides on inbox.
So he has thousands of comic books, but he's collected over
his life of collecting comic books and they're all in this
room and they're just sort of like, in there, you know,
they're not like, I'm sure they're just sort of like, in
there. It's like, literally the room is
dedicated to The thing, it's a library if you will, it's a bit

(28:09):
of. Yeah, I mean, which is great.
You know, like, hey dude, a person with a hobby, whose
financial means to support it. Fuck it, that's the dream.
But anyways, he's now reorganizing that.
Now that I'm moving in and candies moving in Chris's
partner, we're sort of like, consolidating it, which is also.
Anyways, he's clearing that roomand we're gonna have access or I
am but I'd like to use it as a recording studio.
So, anyways, I'm really excited for that room to be either empty

(28:31):
or like reasonably empty. So, that everything that is in
that room, Is decided to be in that room like in this room that
we're in, currently there's a bunch of shit in this room that
we didn't decide to put in this room.
It just is in this room. Yeah.
And removing it from this room. Would mean deciding where to put
it and the LOLs thing, but an empty room.
Oh, that's like the only thing in this room are the things that

(28:52):
I've deliberately taken into this room and I fucking love
that feeling. So I like moving around so much
because every time you move themas much as moving sucks like
when you do move in a new place you're like I know exactly what
is in this apartment because I put it here and then collect
more shit and I'm playing a gamebecause we have this cool new
podcast booth and so there's like a sliver we're like the
blanket doesn't like clothes andso I'm looking and I'm just

(29:16):
counting the number of hobbies that I can actively see and that
was from here and I can see fromhere my embroidery phase, my
sewing phase my knitting phase my scrapbooking phase my
miniature face and Our ongoing TT R.

(29:39):
PG face so ongoing. Yeah, that's interesting.
And that's just line of sight. Yeah, without moving I have a
little hole that I can see through to out of the booth.
I can see instrument making, I can see.
Oh and Legos, I can see like, ohnice macaroni stuff, I can see
coffee stirrer stuff. Jesus Christ.
Yeah. Hey, I wouldn't trade it, you

(30:01):
know, I dig it. I like that.
I like all this alike. That's the thing is, I don't
regret being this way. Like, I fucking like that.
I pick up Hobbies. I like that.
I maintain interest in new, and novel things, but that comes
with having to do, with some shit like, figuring out where to
put all your fucking stuff, but I feel like it's worth it.
I like, I like my life. I mean, honestly, like, I love

(30:24):
Learning new hobbies, like my, like I've said, many times like
my hobby is learning new hobbies, you know, I love it.
I just like, I wish I was betterat the executive function stuff,
you know. Like that's that's the part that
I struggle with is like, okay, I'm excited about this, like
fucking collage. I really fucking like collage.
I don't know how long I'm gonna like collage, but like I'm

(30:46):
liking it right now, but like, you know what?
Collage requires a lot of fucking space again.
Keep a lot of fucking books around.
Yeah, and so I'm just like, I keep looking at that giant bin.
In the kitchen and going, like, I should move this, I should put
this somewhere, but then I can'tfigure out where to put it and
so something that I do, one of my little pie-in-the-sky
exercises, and this might be like a picturing stuff kind of
thing, but I love when I get a new hobby, or a new project or

(31:08):
any something or other designinga storage case for it, in my
head like uh, like collage, for example like books.
Those stack, you know, but what if you have like a bunch of
loose cutouts? Yeah.
That's like, you know you might want to use it some point but
you got to keep nice like. Okay so it's like Thing that can
hold books anything but it also has like a slot on the side that

(31:28):
is felted you know so that papercan slide in without being
destroyed and it's whatever and it's insulated from the rest of
it, you can also have a little compartment for, you know,
you're glues your various scissors, exacto knife, skits
and stuff like that. Like a One-Stop little kit
thing. Also just while I'm thinking
about it, one of the most satisfying crafty boy
organization. Things ever seen, my life is

(31:51):
Adam Savage's mobile tool box. I Have been trying
unsuccessfully to build you one of those for like two years.
Really are sweetie. Thanks like, I like I have I
have Do you want to talk about them as mobile to wax?
I have directly contacted Adam, Savage you really.

(32:11):
Yeah, he put the design, the designs are online.
Like the Foley, the problem is, I can't find the right
Hydraulics to like, lift up any of that stuff.
What I've been also look up, Adam Savage's toolbox, but
basically when he was at industrial Light & Magic, the
special effects people that famously did Star Wars and a
bunch of other stuff he had. He would move from Station to

(32:31):
Station, but he had this toolboxthat was on hydroxo it rolled it
was reasonably big. Contained.
Hundreds of tools, all like thathave their own little slots, all
that. And God blessed the man.
He made a whole diagram, like a labeled diagram of every.
It's like a busy weekend in Adobe Illustrator sort of
picture of it. And every single thing is
labeled and where it goes. Oh God, I just so good.

(32:57):
You like Gary, it was back. Well, Gary's bag to carry from
beep. Watch vpats a good show.
There's a guy named Gary on the show, who is the president?
Will, you know, unless it's pretty bad but he was Selina
Meyers Bag Man and so she can belike, I need tissues and there's
like a bit that he does wear like he doesn't have to look.
He can just reach into this massive bag and pull out any one

(33:18):
of like hundreds of objects, come on.
That's fucking awesome. That's pretty sweet.
I'm gonna get you a Gary briefcase for convention.
I'm like, Eric. My friend will from California.
He had like this military asked but it wasn't like an official
but it's like nobody asked God with all these pouches and stuff
in his everyday carry was insane.

(33:40):
Like he had lockpicks like rollsof duct tape nails screws like
his everyday, carry was everything from like first aid
kit stuff, too. Like well his lock being said,
actually saved my ass a couple times because I like myself on
my apartment will attest story. It's has.

(34:02):
Yeah, I mean, it's really incredible, earplugs all that
kind of stuff. I mean, I gotta start right here
plugs. I want your pledges 100% of the
time. I know I remember occasionally
and I'll carry with me everywhere for a couple months,
and I forget that that's really one falls out of my pocket.
I only have one of my shoes, your ear?
Oh God. I would got hers wasn't wearing
one earplug. Yes, I've done that before.

(34:25):
I'm like, well, it's better thanNothing and then it's just like
the worst thing we should close with some important
announcements. Oh sure you will house.
Keep you boys. Yeah.
Well housekeeper boys, importanthouse.
Keep you boy. Number one company therapeutic.
Thanks keep their beauty. So first off thank you to geek

(34:51):
Therapeutics. We appreciate you so much.
Number two, Eric and I are goingto be appearing.
In Utah at Quincy's taverns convergence.
So if you want to come hang out at Evermore Park in an immersive
D&D Adventure, Extravaganza, youshould do that.

(35:14):
Also, what is it called again the convergence I have an app on
my phone. Hey guys, thank you for coming
home, but I'm not quick enough on the draw with it.
You know, that's I always miss. Hi, I hate the door everybody.
I'll get honest. Also, I'm so uncomfortable.

(35:37):
Also OD 3, it. See, he's really so if you're
like man I wish I had a cool plan for Halloween.
What if you played TT RPGs on a boat with me and Eric will
Erik's not gonna play games? But he's gonna be around, he can
be around, it's okay. Dang.
If it was take a seat at the table.
Infinite Quest fan Meetup D3 at Sea.

(35:59):
Let's go. It'll be great.
I'll be chill. So that's happening.
I'm also teaching a seminar on disability and inclusivity at
the gaming table, so very excited for that and I think
that's all the stuff that I'm allowed to tell you about right
now. I have one that I haven't
plug-in that. I feel bad about it.
I'm doing a podcast with teh seashell vids.

(36:22):
Longtime friend of mine. Oh, what?
And they figure of pencils, bringer of paper, bringer of
friendship and love. It's a Gen Con thing.
You had to be there at basket but today is running a Minecraft
D&D campaign where basically they have made Minecraft or D
and D 5 e Mechanics for playing Minecraft.

(36:43):
So you're playing Minecraft but it's in the DND setting.
So you still like mine and craftand do all the stuff but it's in
DND setting in the Minecraft world is absolutely fucking
incredible. Perhaps a roll for initiative
every time there's a creeper. Yes, really.
Yeah, that was me. That's funny.
I can't I can't like stay. There's enough Tay made this.

(37:04):
Yeah. Like the entire game system like
made it and I think like fuckingWizards of the Coast is like
coming out with something like but like tabling didn't able t
to the first. He's so anyways that podcast
exists its called Adventure SMP.So available anywhere you get
your podcasts. But yeah, I play on that game
and it's really fun. Oh, I also just remembered

(37:25):
another one. What you got?
I'm very happy to To announce that I will be stepping into the
role of a owen on Don, Marshalls, Lord of the Rings,
unexpected unpredicted, party, Eric burped and it was
unexpected. And what I said the wrong name
of the podcast, that's really embarrassing.
But anyway, so is Don Marshall, the unpredicted party, it's

(37:47):
available on YouTube and And also over on the patreon.
And so anyway, I'm pretty sure party.
I'm playing a Owen and that's fucking sexy.
That's pretty cool. It's very sad.
I'm playing a 0 and very, very queer.
So good, it's fine. I mean, dude, if you're an elf,

(38:09):
your life for thousands of years, you have time to get in
touch with your sexuality, you know.
You know, I don't think I want is enough.
I'm like, what I'm like 90% you're thinking thing of all
win. Yeah.
Yeah, fuck. Hey, one is not enough well
podcast, canceled shit, Don. I'm so sorry, Steven.
Sorry, we Stephen, Stephen Colbert.

(38:31):
Oh, I want. And I want them to meet.
I realize, I'm Brian. I want that.
Um, actually, it happened so badwhen I was in New York last
week. I was by at the Ed Sullivan
Theater. The Late Show with Stephen
Colbert theater and I thought about like, what if I just like
printed a bunch of signs with daMarshals face on them?
And just like plaster the front of the because he would see
that, you know, he would hear about it.

(38:51):
And that's a huge admirer. The addition you should also go
protest in front of the Stephen Colbert.
I will, dude like Don! Hey Don, hi, how's it going?
I have an aunt who has an apartment in New York City that
I sometimes go to like, cats it for her.
You know, we should do, we should go there, you should come
there and we'll hang out and do cool stuff.
But mainly what we're doing is staking out the front of the

(39:14):
Late Show building and we will just sit there with podcast mics
and wait, for Steven jadi. Comes through the front door.
You know, we just sit there withit.
One of those signs that just says, like, I know I'm not, I
but like Don knows more about Lord of the Rings than you
talking, then you do. That's, that's honestly really
cool. Beer knows, good content when he
sees it, okay? Like he knows what's what that's

(39:35):
pretty good, especially when he realizes inevitably that you
actually might know more than him because like real.
Like I'm sorry. I'm on it now.
It's a really I don't think Stephen Colbert thinks.
I think Stephen, Colbert, probably believes that there are
maybe like, 10 to 15 and he's a humble guy, but like, He
probably thinks it would like 10to 15 people on Earth that know
as much about talking as he doesand you are definitely one of

(39:59):
them. Anyways, we got to make it
happen. I forgot we were just doing some
drank, but seriously, do it. Continue your love letter to Don
Marshall or can we enter most? No, it's fine.
It's just, I just want to see ithappen.
So I wanted to happen desperately.
Anyways, everybody, thank you somuch for listening.
I do appreciate it. It's going to happen
manifesting. I'm this guy.
Rich reason, Gatorade, so murky reason Gatorade.

(40:21):
So So remember, I don't know what the first noun I said, was,
I don't know. You said Mercury did I say
Mercury? I thought that speaking of
merch, not calm / people /, infinite Quest also go to
patreon.com/scishow, infinite Quest and we will start singing,
You songs. Yeah.
We're going to, we gotta get back on.
We got our flour. Shake out all fucked up.
Yeah, well you know, back on it,back on the saddle, back in this

(40:45):
head that's not a What's that all of us here are in fact.
Sorry, I forgot. I'm sorry.
I started thinking about how much I liked on Marshall and
then I got distracted. And it was funny because fucking
friend crush. I'm also on the record right
now. I don't care.
I have the biggest friend crush on him ever.
It's yeah, that works. Well is cool.
It's just such a cool guy. Okay, anyway from heard it, put

(41:08):
a question, Don Marshall and on Marshall remember to eat a
snack. Remember to drink some water.
Remember to take your Meds remember to be kind yourself,
remember to be kind to others and remember that?
We love Don Marshall Bye. We are, we are all done.

(41:31):
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What they do is really amazing and we're just so stoked to work
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(41:53):
Maybe knows if you'd like to help support the podcast, you
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(42:13):
there, anyways. Bye everybody, thanks for
listening, bye.
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