May 9, 2023 • 38 mins
In this episode, Cate has a CRISIS (tm) about time (or the lack of it) and how one thing can lead to one thing to one thing to one thing until the avalanche of all the stuff you haven't done hits you in the ass. Erik talks about his newest invention, and together, Cate and Erik talk about the future of Infinite Quest's gaming endeavors.
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Are you recording? Oh, okay.
I love surprised to know how to start.
I was just like, I'm just gonna sit here.
No, it's okay. Hello.
Hi sweetheart. How you doing?
I'm not great, but all I will live to tell the tale But you
want to tell the tale right now?I guess, I mean, sure was I did
that. I'm sorry.
(00:27):
Dear, let's say that was not me pressuring Katie and Colin is
what we agreed. No, I'm having a rough time.
I'm having a rough time in like a really silly way and it's
because dear listeners. So Eric asked me he was like,
hey do you want to finish off our game of?
I'm sorry to say street magic. I was like yeah that sounds like
(00:48):
a lot of fun. And so then for like a couple
Couple of days I'd been like, oh, I should listen back to the
last two episodes because I genuinely dear listener.
I don't remember shit about. Like I we had so much fun and I
really good time and I was like,hooray and then Eric was like,
hey do you want to go back and do it again?
(01:09):
I was like dope and then I was like, I don't remember anything.
The only thing I remember is at the very end of the last
episode, I killed the mayor's wife or daughter.
That was like, I was like, okay,I remember that much.
And that was like it. And so then for like, Longer
than a week because we were at convergence, I was like, oh I
should listen back to the last podcast because then that way I
(01:29):
would remember for when we play the game again and then I was
like oh it's fine. I'll do it after convergence.
And then I was like, oh, I'll doit on the weekend and then I was
like, oh, I'll do it tomorrow and then I was like, oh I'll see
what this morning and now it's now.
And I still haven't listened to the podcast so I don't remember
anything and arrogance in the booth and he was all super
excited to play this game and then I just started.
(01:52):
Crying with this like oppressiveguilt of like having put off
listening to the podcast over and over and over and over and
over. So I let him down and not
playing the game and it made me think about how much sometimes I
goddamn hate having ADHD. Thank you for coming to my TED
Talk. Sweetie.
I'm sorry I know how that feels.I don't it's okay.
(02:14):
Like I wasn't like no I know I know you're not mad at me.
I'm just like mad at myself and then it's like it was also just
compounded by the fact that likewe I have some things going on
this week that we were not expecting.
That sounds like I'm pregnant. I'm not we got some good news
(02:34):
about the book but we can't talkabout it.
But anyway, so like that's goingon and then like we're going to
that convention in like a week or so and then it's like, okay
well you're moving date has moved up slightly.
So like we need to start thinking about packing and then
it's like, I have a game tonightthat I like Frankly don't
remember a lot about so I have to like, refresh myself and then
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also, I have like two charactersfor like other stuff that I
haven't even built yet in there.Like waiting for my endless.
It was just like that like crushing weight of like as we
know but like just that I don't know like just that feeling of
like I have all of this stuff and I keep trying to pull stuff
out of the Jenga Tower but it just makes the like weight
(03:16):
heavier. And then also, I'm really mad
about critical role. So it's fine.
What happened with Kurt. Uncle roll announced that
they're doing. So they have this new game that
they created and it's really cool.
And it's D6 Space Program which is rad, but the concept is like
spooky. Victorian magic like dark
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Academia and like I would be so good at that job.
You'd be incredible. I would be so good at that job
and I posted like a ship post onTwitter and people were like, oh
my God. And then I felt really like
cringy about it but it's like I don't know how to like do that.
Like I don't know how to do the like networking to like the big
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names. You know what I mean?
Like I'm so scared of like everybody in that world other
they're like scary. It's just like I'm intimidated
by them and I you know what I mean?
And so it's just like I would love to fucking have.
The courage to email me at Mercer and be like, hey, I'm
really cool. Like you could I that's really
bad coffee. Just so, you know, I just had to
(04:21):
pick up a couple of mugs and check them to see like up that
was three weeks old. No, that one's today's coffee.
I don't want to sit is my sisterJenny Lee bad, but you know what
I mean? And so it's just like, I don't
know. I have this like weird sadness
where it's like I'm really harshly judging myself because
of my poor time management skills and my feeling of being
overwhelmed. With them at the same time, like
(04:43):
I have these like goofy kid, BigDreams, and Ambitions that I
feel like I'm just, I don't know.
Like, I'm just like having a moment right now.
It's fine. Yeah, I'm sorry.
I mean, I'm also something that like I feel like honestly, I
don't appreciate it because I dobut like I didn't realize I
didn't notice or think about is the amount of stories that
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you're keeping straight at all times.
Like you're in three or four D and D games at any given time,
not to mention you. Run a, you know, you just ran 31
shots like you're pitching stories to other people like the
amount of different just literalstory lines that you have to
keep straight in your head and like I don't like I have, you
know, the inventor SMP what what?
(05:25):
By the way is a podcast. Let it divide them on but well
you will plug at the end Shadow to Cho Chang.
But you know like that's just a lot that would be a lot for
anybody and you I think you're remarkably good at it which is
why I think you can go so far before you know all of a sudden
running. You know, like I think the least
amount of antidepressant but also could be a ball that is I
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know you're like, you know, as being funny but that I'm, that's
really true. Like there are times when all
like be like, wow I feel the worst.
I've like fuck everything. Fuck everything I've ever wanted
to do. I'm like oh I haven't taken my
antidepressants in four days like it's it feels shitty that
it's like some that seem so trivial, you know but it's
another thing is I miscounted when I set up my Our apartment
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by a week and then I can get a different appointments so I just
have to wait to the 14th so I'llbe okay.
It's only a few more days but don't be like me listener.
Dear listeners. Please be more responsible with
your fucking depression medication.
Well that that being said you were still going to and it's
okay. It has just hit jump back on.
(06:34):
I think I actually I think I might have some The smaller
dosage one's actually not. Okay, just yeah, I'm attracted
to any the tenis. I could take two Z's of the
tens. He's a mother makes a 20s.
Should like check the date on? You know, I don't know how I
mean. I bet it's fine.
But, you know, just what's a really good.
Bye guys. Hi everybody.
(06:54):
Welcome back to where I rememberwhere my medication is live on
the air, that's why people come.They're like, oh, that Katie
Soros doing that, remember it. So, I also want to bring up that
I Sort of two analogies while you were talking.
You probably lost the lights lights there.
No. Just trying to park at your
podcast. That's what they're for but to
(07:17):
weird analogy. One thing I like weightlifters,
like if you are a very big like if I were to go to gym like I
would be a total beginning weightlifter, you know?
So like if I were to do like a clean and jerk or whatever you
would so he Midway through that and like there's no way I'm
getting away with saying that something after they are adults,
(07:37):
clean&jerk is Fucking hilarious.I don't care who you are if
there's ever a point in my life,where I don't think that's
funny, check in on me. But like, so if I were to go to
the gym in our to like, you know, do a big over the head
lift anything I wouldn't be using very much weight at all.
I would probably be using, just the bar to like, get the
technique down and hopefully I would have somebody who knows
what they're doing. Like showing me that being said,
(07:58):
it's it was it's less dangerous for me to do that because of the
amount of weight involved which is very little then like an
Olympic powerlifter who's holding 500 pounds, above their
skull. Like that's dangerous, like the
risks. And if something goes wrong
there, it would go really wrong because there's so much fucking
way involved because there are really good weightlifter.
(08:18):
You're an excellent Storyteller and improper, and Dean deeply
and all those things. But reverse and just to so that
being said, just the mm, the themagnitude of it is a lot.
So that when you're having trouble keeping story straight,
or like, forget a thing or like,oh shit, what the hell is going
on? Strong and springs.
You're at such a high level thatlike That's like dropping 500,
(08:40):
it feels like dropping 500 pounds on your head, you know, I
mean like the magnitude is greater also I feel like you're
being very complimentary, but what this really is about is
just a woeful misuse of my own time.
Like this is a me problem. This is not like a foam, a
Geniuses to great. It's a no.
I was not fucking responsible with my time.
(09:01):
And then now, I am regretful andsad.
That's what this. I'm not saying.
Like, you're Geniuses to great. I'm just saying that your you
like, A lot of people are good at their job and when you're
good at their job, like, you know, I dealt with really sharp
knives and dangerous equipment because I was a good cook.
But you know what's really interesting about the metaphor
that you just use is that it's like absolutely on a bell curve,
(09:22):
right. So like there's like you've got
like the bar you're trying to clean and jerk your you've got
the bar and you can do it and then you can put on too much
weight to where you would get like injured and it would be
dangerous but then there's also the point where it would just
literally be impossible. What you?
Not physically pick up the amount that like human will
(09:42):
never pick up 2,000 pounds. Yeah, you know what I mean,
like? Yeah, exactly.
So, it's like, if even if you like, you walked out to like an
Olympic fucking competition, I doubt you would be able to pick
up the amount of weight that they can.
So there's like a weird like progression to it.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, there's also to the point
where you just can't and that's like where I feel like I'm at.
I feel like there's too much weight.
(10:04):
You know. Let's go.
I mean I think, you know, that'syour maxing out your like, okay,
that's My limit. I can't like, that's the most I
can do without actually CatchingFire and then maybe dial it
back. But that's up to you.
Good it deadlifting. I've been lonely, I think a lot
of weight lifting stuff has beencoming.
Oh there's a fucking great Tick-Tock series thing going on.
There's a some weight, lifter guy named Natalie I think sure
(10:27):
his name is but he's like ridiculously strong, like
world-class strong but he doesn't really look like it.
Like there's something about hismuscle fibers were They're just
dancer or something like that sohe can put on like a disguise
like just like a jumpsuit, he kind of thing and look like say
a janitor and so yeah I saw thatvideo move your just a biggest
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fucking meaty with you know, 500pound deadlift things like can I
just move this real quick to clean these like oh I don't
think you can move any just likemoves it with one hand.
There's like huh? Just so funny.
Anyways that being said, I can'tnot watch those all the way
through. So I've been getting a lot of
weird weight, lifting stuff and it looks really fun.
Like it looks like such Measurable Improvement.
My god dude. I got ya 100-pound.
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I don't know the numbers but he's really good at
weightlifting. I miss it.
Yeah, you were weren't you? I was, I was fucking Hefty.
I was a hefty boy. I just like, oh yeah, we let me
get that. Okay, vending machines of shit
like oh the other analogy I was thinking of is from Breaking
Bad. What's an analogy?
It's just on a very modern reference.
(11:32):
It is it it's not now Jesus I iced yeah that show ended in
like 13 14. I Hope so Renata.
Don't remember what that does toradio signals?
I pressure system, I don't know.Oh, which is I do I like to get
my wisdom where I can, you know,I don't like I try to
overanalyze silly TV shows and try to get something out of them
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that I wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
I mean, I think it's a good thing to do.
But anyways, there's an episode where if you don't know,
Breaking Bad main two characters, Walter White who is
basically just anti heroing the entire time, it's great show.
But anyways, it's him and he just absolutely abuses the shit
out of Jesse Pinkman. The other main character, he's
(12:14):
just Emulate, see many places everybody, but he manipulates
the shit out of Jesse all the time.
Basically whenever he wants something from Jesse and later
in the show, Jessi starts to catch on to that more and so I
don't remember what he was trying to do.
I think he was trying to get Jesse like leave town or
something and so wild constructed this like huge
series of lies and whatever and he's a genius so it's like
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really it works. To try to get Jesse to leave
town. And so, finally, Jesse, at some
point, just goes, like, dude, couldn't you just ask me like, I
know you're fucking lying. I know this is all like couldn't
you just ask me like hey do you mind leaving town for a week or
so like asking me for a fucking favor.
Like does that ever occur to youto do fucking amazing scene?
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Now, I'm not saying you're welcome, you're not Walter
White. You were an honest delightful
person. But I think about that all the
time because a lot of times especially when I Think you're a
nerd of urgent, so like human relationships, don't artists
like straightforward to you as they are perhaps to other
people. So you kind of think like, okay,
in order to get to talking to that person at the party, I'm
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gonna like, overhear their conversation and find out what
they're into, and then go to thebar and then look on my phone
and do some research. And then I'll talk loudly about
it. Never noticed me and then we'll
get a dog. So, yeah.
Or you could just fucking go up and start talking to them like
that, you're allowed to do that.And so anyways, having said so I
think with like, The game, the critical role game thing like
(13:41):
you could just fucking email me like hey these are micro, I
would be excellent in this game.They still might say.
No, you know, they probably willsay no, frankly, just because
they're critical role but like you're allowed to do that,
you're lying. You're also allowed to be
qualified, you don't have to like into your car.
You can just say I am a fucking immensely qualified to do this
and so many ways. Yeah, I mean, that's not the
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neuro divergency so much is the trauma and the growing up in the
midwest talk, which I also want to play.
That's easy to do. I'm sorry, I don't mean to say,
like what? I just feel like you write that
you don't want and then you justlike having, you know?
Yeah, right here. Critical role than backspace
backspace dear Dimension. 20. No, but like, you're right?
(14:24):
Like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
I completely forgot what we wereactually talking about.
Hey you know what that means? I bet it's about time for a
commercial break. Hey get your peanuts here.
Do you want to do this one in saying because like Kickstarter?
(14:45):
You know this Kickstarter for the psychology of Alden.
Ring funded and our first YouTube video is obviously yeah
are we doing it? Is this it yeah fuck it.
I mean I can do both yeah because it all like the the
points that we want to hit, you know those are already standard.
But you know, we just Listen to yeah, man.
Yeah, okay. Yeah, so just well.
(15:07):
Okay, so unofficial commercial work, just so you all know.
If you haven't seen the new video that we put up on my
YouTube channel, which by the way, shout out to Eric.
He did an Immaculate fucking jobediting it.
I'm so proud of it, but we're talking a lot more about video
games and neuro Divergence. And that is because it is
(15:27):
sponsored by geek Therapeutics who's a fantastic organization
that We are partnering with thisyear and they just launched a
Kickstarter for their new book. The psychology of Elden ring.
They launched it on May 2nd and it funded me.
Third, wish I was like 37 hours,I think.
Yeah, it was incredible but it'sgonna be a really cool book and
it is primarily focusing on sortof like the psychological
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benefits of playing games. Like Eldon Rings were things
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prioritization and management come into play and its really
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Is and like, if you like video game lore, it's like, it's Lord,
I'm sorry. What game or Eric?
I do a lot. I fucking love video game.
(16:10):
We're absolutely like really. Yeah, it was about.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean I'm not like vasiliy
knowledgeable widespread but thegames I do know about yeah, I
know a lot about because like the thing about games like hell
you don't have to give a shit about anything in a video game
because the point is that, the gameplay itself is really good.
Yeah. So you don't have to use like
yeah. Well cope how, but like, a lot
of people put a lot of fucking work.
(16:30):
Making an awesome universe and Shit.
And so, I don't think it's necessarily like any better or
worse or whatever than like movies and books and stuff.
I think it's just often overlooked and people still work
incredibly hard on it and so, you know, it's lure but you can
feel good about it, you know. But yeah, the kickstarter funded
in about 37 hours, which is crazy.
You can still absolutely go support the kickstarter.
(16:52):
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But hey, we should keep talking about that thing that we were
talking. Oh yeah this episode.
It's really it's going the best one I've ever lard 22 on the
chugging trains. Go get back to it.
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Okay here we go. Let's go.
Do do do, do do. Okay, so I bet.
So those are really fun after listening to that ad.
They've already forgot about howbad my transition into.
(20:27):
It was that's a great but we're still laughing about it because
that was only like five seconds ago to us.
So here's what you do. You just didn't want that
transition. Oh yeah.
Okay, do it like bumping. Your vagina is so long.
I know dude he do it. Oh yeah transmission of fuck
translation. Transition.
Transition off, fuck a vinegar vinegar.
(20:49):
I got it. I got it this time.
So Lean Back episode, the kind of but but I just did what I
wanted to bring up. I may have borrowed it before
but to the last two episodes of ADHD and D were recorded.
They were great. We fuckin it was awesome.
(21:14):
However, the audio is Got screwed.
We live live at within like a literal stone's.
Throw of a radio tower which we said before.
But I can't emphasize enough howwe mean literally adding shit to
it to do that because yeah that's what happened.
Is the the local station. Like I don't know if they like
expanded her like somebody. I knew company about it but
(21:34):
there's a new dish on it. That's why everything changed.
Okay, that makes sense. Yeah but yeah it's like a decent
quarterback at absolutely fucking hukka Stone and hit it
from like our front door. anyways, so something I guess
they had a new dish or whatever and the audio is It's great.
If you want to listen to our podcast and AM radio at the same
(21:56):
time, like it comes in and out. Well, I think what Bruce
Mellencamp's lot softly in the background the whole time.
So I spent like months, like notonly to trying to fix it but
trying to like learn more about audio engineering such to fix it
because it's not like it's if itwas like completely fucked in
unusable, I would almost feel better about that because then
it's like there's nothing I could do.
(22:16):
But I know there probably is andI just don't know enough and
it's so anyways I it's I think acouple months and I was We
fucking can use. We have to re-record it.
And that just, I'm so just made about that.
I've been like, not like reluctant to, but like it's not
the first thing on my mind is because I'm so fucking mad about
lips, free idea. We could put that up on the
patreon with like say, hey, these episodes got screwed, but
(22:40):
here's how it was supposed to end.
But whether or not we had the same beats this time, because a
lot of it is on the dice rolls. Well, what is also nice is, I
forgotten pretty much everythingabout like all the detail.
I remember the major things. Yeah, I don't remember like how
How we responded to people and stuff.
So we'll be completely original,but that that's got also, I did
(23:00):
when we were talking, I figured out that game that I was going
to make up. Oh, yeah, yeah, II.
Should I say it on the podcast? All right, we just gotta file a
patent or something. Exactly stir.
Well, here's what I think. Okay, dear lister's, here's the
bag. So, somebody on Twitter that I
was talking about different concepts for, like, adding
tension to games and I Don't lie.
(23:22):
Galaxy brain super hard and I came up with a concept for a
game. And so I think I'm going to make
it, I think I'm going to just make like a little PDF download
boy, pay me a dollar and you cantry my game.
I got to like, actually, like write it but that's all I'm
gonna tell you right now. But if you would play my game
email us at ask it. If it was fun, cast.com and be
(23:44):
like, yes, I would play your game or not.
I think we like go fuck yourself.
That happens already. Way.
So it's fine. Speaking of making things I made
the best instrument I ever made at convergence.
You really did its phenomena thanks and I can't replicate.
I'm a like I'm I've been trying for the past day to try to
(24:06):
replicate it but I can't well. So it's got that, It's got Sorry
bit, like grunge on it. So at convergence while Kate was
damning, I didn't have anything to do except for like, try to
film content and make stuff and Shadow to Connor, one of the
owners. Things like title is he's like a
groundskeeper maintenance construction, a guy there and
(24:28):
shout out to Jason because was walking with Connor and Jason
critical Dice and I just mentioned offhand, like how
there's not as many like, crafting materials here as I
thought, I thought it would be like, just trees.
Like it takes takes from and stuff, but it's like a really
well-kept Park. So there's like, no trash.
It's like really nice and Jason was like, oh yeah.
(24:48):
Eric. Yeah, he was like making I think
he said, Treasure from trash or whatever.
There's actually reminds me Connor is there like a big pile
of construction garbage anywhereand Kyle or Connor was like
actually yeah, there's a huge fucking pile of construction
garbage, right out back, take whatever you want.
So and then Eric's eyes lit up, and he was so happy and I felt
bad because I, he was like taking us on like a walking tour
(25:11):
and I couldn't think about anything else.
It's not paying attention. But so yeah, I mean, I found a
piece of PVC which is the Holy Grail over.
Cantor's. Also, if you happen to work at a
plumbing company in Georgia or construction company in Georgia
and you if you would give Eric, you're garbage, Eric would love
(25:34):
that. I've been trying to find a
construction company to give Eric their offcuts for like days
because I thought of it at Home Depot when he's but fucking a
million dollars on PVC we other day and I was like there's got
to be a construction company whowill give you x 6 inch pieces.
Are you ask nicely, right? What's its the connectors?
Those are I should be good on for a while because I have a lot
of, like, lengths of PVC just from various random shit.
(25:57):
It's like, I just need a lot of T connectors and so now that I
have those email is it asking ifI do?
But I found that and then I found a piece of a cocking gun
like cartridge that was just gross and shitty and old.
So I used that those two things to make a membrane, read
clarinet type thing, and it sounds very cool.
(26:18):
And it's right over there. I could Really got fucked up in
the no did it. Yeah, I mean it still works but
the tone is different. It's weird.
I don't know what qualities. It has that made it sound so
good. I use the same material for the
read. I don't know.
Did you use a zip tie to hold iton?
Yeah. Okay.
(26:39):
So anyway, so we decided back back slightly on track.
We decided that we're going to return to scenario strings
Springs. Aw, On Thursday.
So I will have time to listen tothe episode.
That's what, that's what you missed here on.
Infinite Quest. We should run errands.
That's when we listen to our podcast, the Motions were in the
(27:00):
car. I want to go buy plants.
Its planned by in season, right?Yeah.
We have to do that but then we also have to go to a place
that's like exactly one hour and47 minutes there and back so we
can send to that we could go to We could go to the fabric store.
(27:22):
Oh yeah. All the restaurants door.
Yeah. We were there.
Right next door to each other? They are.
All right. Next one of the thymus or and I
could buy fabric for my mummy cosplay, your mummy cosplay.
Yeah, I've decided you're going to dress up like Rico Cottle for
driving Kyle. Oh yeah, surprise.
And you're going to be Rachel. Weisz know, I was gonna be Benny
(27:43):
sure. Now I'm just kidding, but I want
to, I need Make the skirt. I just need like a white shirt
and a suspend. He's but it's part my hair in
the middle. Yeah.
You know, be delightful Charming.
Well, you're gonna have a reallyhard time with that.
I got him. No, no Karina's.
(28:04):
Oh, and also dear listeners. This is a real question.
So add at the convergence, whichby the way, shout out again to
Ivy, and Tay and Jason, and Quincy, and Tiffany for just
making, It all possible. It was an incredible experience.
We had such a good time. Hopefully, they'll do it again
next year and y'all should come because it was fucking amazing,
(28:25):
but I ran a game and I'm really proud of the game, and I'm kind
of like should I run the game for Eric so air can see my game.
Oh yeah, I'd love to. Yeah, but I'm trying to make it
like a one-person thing, but does it what about it?
What about it makes it such thatit can't be long.
I think like some take longer tokill enemies or something.
(28:48):
Maybe I'm not gonna tell you, it's a surprise.
I also want to run a game with with you, I think listening to.
So I convergence it was like a bunch of DM's like, yeah, really
hot. Level TMS and hearing you all
talked about like running the games.
Like the nitty-gritty, not like the stuff you hear about like on
(29:09):
D&D Tick-Tock or whatever. But like diems talking to other
DM's about things, they're actually doing right now.
Like, it was really cool hearinglike, like oh yeah, one of the
people were with was talking about.
It wasn't this game, it was a different game that he'd run,
where his players walked into a room and were like, oh my gosh,
it's an escape room. And they got like, really
excited about the fact that there was an escape room.
(29:31):
Understand g game but it wasn't an escape room.
And so he was just like, oh well, I got to make up an escape
room on the fly right now and hedid and it would prepare only
with went really well but like that's a combination of the
things that I love so much. It's one, it's making other
people happy with stuff. I think of which is really nice
and also having to do that with limited time and resources which
is like my other favorite thing.You know, it's like that sounds
(29:52):
like hosting an experience like that for a group or one person.
Whoever while also getting to becollaboratively creative and
stuff. Like I think, as a player Fire.
I get anxious because I always feel like I'm gonna fuck it up
for the DM. But if I am the DM then I don't
worry about that. Yeah.
You know, and I can play and rights campaign's and stuff like
that. I would want to plan.
You know. Yeah.
(30:13):
Also very recently. Somebody sent me a compendium of
spicy tea. Refugees.
Mmm, that are like spicy, they're spicy.
And I was like, Maybe maybe I'm the shellfish me.
I mean, couldn't any game but byseed a like specifically written
to be spicier like systems aboutlike yeah.
(30:34):
Jacqueline or whatever. No they're like, there's like
there's like a bunch of them butthere's like wine.
We're like I'm actually really interested in what's on like I
don't know like we're like in what context we could ever like
maybe like Frolic on. But like so the concept is that
one person is an explorer. And the other person like their
(30:56):
body serves as like the map. And so like you play, what is
fundamentally a world-building game but you play it like on
their body. So it's like it can be sexy but
it's also just a way of like sort of like getting into your
body and like grounding your partner and I'm like that's
fucking fascinating. That's really interesting.
And like there's another one where you're like a vampire and
(31:19):
it's like a vampire and his like, vampire bride.
I'm sorry. Were you saying that?
That first game is a game. That exists.
Yes. Oh, cool.
Yeah, yeah. And like, it isn't like a
compendium that I got, but then,there's another one, where,
like, your vampire and then, like, his like vampire, bride,
or whatever. And it's about like permissions.
And like, giving your partner like permissions to do things
(31:40):
that they like, wouldn't normally, like, do it was like
is like, it's really interesting.
It's really nice. Yeah, if they're really cool.
And I'm like, I really want to play them but like maybe on
trolleys fans because I don't think we could do it.
You're very different type of like us.
Although Spotify did start putting spicy spicy podcasts out
today. Yeah, they have.
(32:01):
Some did, it is referred to a company as a person.
Oh yeah. Fuck citizens united.
Sorry you got that star politicshashtags.
What did it do? Spotify has a whole erotic novel
selection, I found out. I actually found out on
Tick-Tock. A girl made a tick.
(32:22):
Tock about how spicy there. I haven't listened to him yet.
That's cool. But I'm not one hundo.
I'm also, I know you said you didn't want to talk.
I think it's a good idea, perhaps a good idea to not talk
about it on the back of, so nobody steals it but only May
steal it. But TM TM TM TM TM TM TM TM TM.
Tim your attention building goodin the game that you're thinking
out. Yeah, I think it's brilliant.
(32:43):
Thanks. TM TM TM TM TM Cham Cham Cham.
So really, I want to tell you the idea right now, but we can't
accept. Do you well teaser trailer next
week. Yeah, right, fine, yep.
Also, we just edited, I think. Well, our longest form video in
(33:05):
a very long time, maybe set up before the commercial break.
Well, I know but it's, it's it hit a part of my brain didn't
expect it to which I it's kind of thrilling.
It's I like that. I know I like the pace of it
that you could really likes it and think about how you want
like a bit tool. And you know because Tick Tock
is so like now. Now, now now now now now you
know, as soon as you post a video you're like all right,
(33:26):
that one's whatever and then yougotta like, keep up with the
comments and went out of that video while making the next one.
Whereas I like I like this slower burn of Eugene Britt like
we get to really think about howwe want to do it and then once
we post, if we can like keep up what's going on with it.
Over like scar days, you know? Yeah.
Arcs ways you to put like rule. Three is jokes in there too.
Yeah. So I'm excited for the next
(33:47):
YouTube video, which by the way to go fall, Katie asaurus on
YouTube just gonna say hey go follow.
Hey, dude on YouTube as well. If you listen to this podcast,
Guys, we know how many people listen to podcast, we see the
numbers. There's like a little pay.
There's a little website. We go Boop and it tells us and I
know how many of there are you there are there's a lot and it
(34:09):
would be so cool if y'all came and followed us on YouTube and
Twitter and twitch because that's where I'm still a lot of
kind of going. I really want to start streaming
again to I like streaming. But oh, yeah, yeah, so like so.
Yeah. So a couple of housekeeping
things actually, as we move intothe clothes new year, so we move
(34:34):
into the year. I want you to really sit, he's
grounded in your body, feel the soles of your feet on the floor.
You don't make me feel my body. Then they always say something
about sit bones. Always say, sicko for your but
just see, but well, it's your, the, the part of your like
pelvis that like, you know, actually experiences, the most
pressure water sitting anyhow. We Jeff.
(34:57):
No, because we booked today. I have to record the next couple
episodes of God adventure. Oh, I'm fine on time but we do
have two of The Adventurous MP, which is a I guess.
Yeah, D&D podcast, run by seashell vids or teh height a,
you can find it anywhere you listen to podcast.
Again, that's Adventure SMP where it's D and D, but it's in
(35:20):
Minecraft world. So there's D&D mechanics.
And Minecraft mechanics at the same time and it's delightful,
I'll play a character. PBS jebus, which, is course.
Yeah, just a funny name. I thought of and now he's
becoming a more serious character and its name is for,
this is ridiculous. But hey pavis jebus.
Does what people's cheapest do so that you can also find me on
(35:43):
the unpredicted party with Don Marshall playing the role of a
Owen in a podcast that ask the question.
What would happen if they had just taken the Eagles to Mordor?
So that's fun and amazing. Easing and also don't forget,
it's May you know what that means is mental health awareness
(36:04):
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last year when we were like, heyguys.
And then we forgot like halfway through the month to keep
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It's the Spotify review. / Applepodcast Drive Eric is looking at
me because he has no memory of this.
I remember. It's, yeah, but it's May, that
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(36:26):
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(37:13):
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piano. Yeah.
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Are you recording? Oh, okay.
I love surprised to know how to start.
I was just like, I'm just gonna sit here.
No, it's okay. Hello.
Hi sweetheart. How you doing?
I'm not great, but all I will live to tell the tale But you
want to tell the tale right now?I guess, I mean, sure was I did
that. I'm sorry.
(00:27):
Dear, let's say that was not me pressuring Katie and Colin is
what we agreed. No, I'm having a rough time.
I'm having a rough time in like a really silly way and it's
because dear listeners. So Eric asked me he was like,
hey do you want to finish off our game of?
I'm sorry to say street magic. I was like yeah that sounds like
(00:48):
a lot of fun. And so then for like a couple
Couple of days I'd been like, oh, I should listen back to the
last two episodes because I genuinely dear listener.
I don't remember shit about. Like I we had so much fun and I
really good time and I was like,hooray and then Eric was like,
hey do you want to go back and do it again?
(01:09):
I was like dope and then I was like, I don't remember anything.
The only thing I remember is at the very end of the last
episode, I killed the mayor's wife or daughter.
That was like, I was like, okay,I remember that much.
And that was like it. And so then for like, Longer
than a week because we were at convergence, I was like, oh I
should listen back to the last podcast because then that way I
(01:29):
would remember for when we play the game again and then I was
like oh it's fine. I'll do it after convergence.
And then I was like, oh, I'll doit on the weekend and then I was
like, oh, I'll do it tomorrow and then I was like, oh I'll see
what this morning and now it's now.
And I still haven't listened to the podcast so I don't remember
anything and arrogance in the booth and he was all super
excited to play this game and then I just started.
(01:52):
Crying with this like oppressiveguilt of like having put off
listening to the podcast over and over and over and over and
over. So I let him down and not
playing the game and it made me think about how much sometimes I
goddamn hate having ADHD. Thank you for coming to my TED
Talk. Sweetie.
I'm sorry I know how that feels.I don't it's okay.
(02:14):
Like I wasn't like no I know I know you're not mad at me.
I'm just like mad at myself and then it's like it was also just
compounded by the fact that likewe I have some things going on
this week that we were not expecting.
That sounds like I'm pregnant. I'm not we got some good news
(02:34):
about the book but we can't talkabout it.
But anyway, so like that's goingon and then like we're going to
that convention in like a week or so and then it's like, okay
well you're moving date has moved up slightly.
So like we need to start thinking about packing and then
it's like, I have a game tonightthat I like Frankly don't
remember a lot about so I have to like, refresh myself and then
(02:55):
also, I have like two charactersfor like other stuff that I
haven't even built yet in there.Like waiting for my endless.
It was just like that like crushing weight of like as we
know but like just that I don't know like just that feeling of
like I have all of this stuff and I keep trying to pull stuff
out of the Jenga Tower but it just makes the like weight
(03:16):
heavier. And then also, I'm really mad
about critical role. So it's fine.
What happened with Kurt. Uncle roll announced that
they're doing. So they have this new game that
they created and it's really cool.
And it's D6 Space Program which is rad, but the concept is like
spooky. Victorian magic like dark
(03:37):
Academia and like I would be so good at that job.
You'd be incredible. I would be so good at that job
and I posted like a ship post onTwitter and people were like, oh
my God. And then I felt really like
cringy about it but it's like I don't know how to like do that.
Like I don't know how to do the like networking to like the big
(03:59):
names. You know what I mean?
Like I'm so scared of like everybody in that world other
they're like scary. It's just like I'm intimidated
by them and I you know what I mean?
And so it's just like I would love to fucking have.
The courage to email me at Mercer and be like, hey, I'm
really cool. Like you could I that's really
bad coffee. Just so, you know, I just had to
(04:21):
pick up a couple of mugs and check them to see like up that
was three weeks old. No, that one's today's coffee.
I don't want to sit is my sisterJenny Lee bad, but you know what
I mean? And so it's just like, I don't
know. I have this like weird sadness
where it's like I'm really harshly judging myself because
of my poor time management skills and my feeling of being
overwhelmed. With them at the same time, like
(04:43):
I have these like goofy kid, BigDreams, and Ambitions that I
feel like I'm just, I don't know.
Like, I'm just like having a moment right now.
It's fine. Yeah, I'm sorry.
I mean, I'm also something that like I feel like honestly, I
don't appreciate it because I dobut like I didn't realize I
didn't notice or think about is the amount of stories that
(05:05):
you're keeping straight at all times.
Like you're in three or four D and D games at any given time,
not to mention you. Run a, you know, you just ran 31
shots like you're pitching stories to other people like the
amount of different just literalstory lines that you have to
keep straight in your head and like I don't like I have, you
know, the inventor SMP what what?
(05:25):
By the way is a podcast. Let it divide them on but well
you will plug at the end Shadow to Cho Chang.
But you know like that's just a lot that would be a lot for
anybody and you I think you're remarkably good at it which is
why I think you can go so far before you know all of a sudden
running. You know, like I think the least
amount of antidepressant but also could be a ball that is I
(05:48):
know you're like, you know, as being funny but that I'm, that's
really true. Like there are times when all
like be like, wow I feel the worst.
I've like fuck everything. Fuck everything I've ever wanted
to do. I'm like oh I haven't taken my
antidepressants in four days like it's it feels shitty that
it's like some that seem so trivial, you know but it's
another thing is I miscounted when I set up my Our apartment
(06:12):
by a week and then I can get a different appointments so I just
have to wait to the 14th so I'llbe okay.
It's only a few more days but don't be like me listener.
Dear listeners. Please be more responsible with
your fucking depression medication.
Well that that being said you were still going to and it's
okay. It has just hit jump back on.
(06:34):
I think I actually I think I might have some The smaller
dosage one's actually not. Okay, just yeah, I'm attracted
to any the tenis. I could take two Z's of the
tens. He's a mother makes a 20s.
Should like check the date on? You know, I don't know how I
mean. I bet it's fine.
But, you know, just what's a really good.
Bye guys. Hi everybody.
(06:54):
Welcome back to where I rememberwhere my medication is live on
the air, that's why people come.They're like, oh, that Katie
Soros doing that, remember it. So, I also want to bring up that
I Sort of two analogies while you were talking.
You probably lost the lights lights there.
No. Just trying to park at your
podcast. That's what they're for but to
(07:17):
weird analogy. One thing I like weightlifters,
like if you are a very big like if I were to go to gym like I
would be a total beginning weightlifter, you know?
So like if I were to do like a clean and jerk or whatever you
would so he Midway through that and like there's no way I'm
getting away with saying that something after they are adults,
(07:37):
clean&jerk is Fucking hilarious.I don't care who you are if
there's ever a point in my life,where I don't think that's
funny, check in on me. But like, so if I were to go to
the gym in our to like, you know, do a big over the head
lift anything I wouldn't be using very much weight at all.
I would probably be using, just the bar to like, get the
technique down and hopefully I would have somebody who knows
what they're doing. Like showing me that being said,
(07:58):
it's it was it's less dangerous for me to do that because of the
amount of weight involved which is very little then like an
Olympic powerlifter who's holding 500 pounds, above their
skull. Like that's dangerous, like the
risks. And if something goes wrong
there, it would go really wrong because there's so much fucking
way involved because there are really good weightlifter.
(08:18):
You're an excellent Storyteller and improper, and Dean deeply
and all those things. But reverse and just to so that
being said, just the mm, the themagnitude of it is a lot.
So that when you're having trouble keeping story straight,
or like, forget a thing or like,oh shit, what the hell is going
on? Strong and springs.
You're at such a high level thatlike That's like dropping 500,
(08:40):
it feels like dropping 500 pounds on your head, you know, I
mean like the magnitude is greater also I feel like you're
being very complimentary, but what this really is about is
just a woeful misuse of my own time.
Like this is a me problem. This is not like a foam, a
Geniuses to great. It's a no.
I was not fucking responsible with my time.
(09:01):
And then now, I am regretful andsad.
That's what this. I'm not saying.
Like, you're Geniuses to great. I'm just saying that your you
like, A lot of people are good at their job and when you're
good at their job, like, you know, I dealt with really sharp
knives and dangerous equipment because I was a good cook.
But you know what's really interesting about the metaphor
that you just use is that it's like absolutely on a bell curve,
(09:22):
right. So like there's like you've got
like the bar you're trying to clean and jerk your you've got
the bar and you can do it and then you can put on too much
weight to where you would get like injured and it would be
dangerous but then there's also the point where it would just
literally be impossible. What you?
Not physically pick up the amount that like human will
(09:42):
never pick up 2,000 pounds. Yeah, you know what I mean,
like? Yeah, exactly.
So, it's like, if even if you like, you walked out to like an
Olympic fucking competition, I doubt you would be able to pick
up the amount of weight that they can.
So there's like a weird like progression to it.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, there's also to the point
where you just can't and that's like where I feel like I'm at.
I feel like there's too much weight.
(10:04):
You know. Let's go.
I mean I think, you know, that'syour maxing out your like, okay,
that's My limit. I can't like, that's the most I
can do without actually CatchingFire and then maybe dial it
back. But that's up to you.
Good it deadlifting. I've been lonely, I think a lot
of weight lifting stuff has beencoming.
Oh there's a fucking great Tick-Tock series thing going on.
There's a some weight, lifter guy named Natalie I think sure
(10:27):
his name is but he's like ridiculously strong, like
world-class strong but he doesn't really look like it.
Like there's something about hismuscle fibers were They're just
dancer or something like that sohe can put on like a disguise
like just like a jumpsuit, he kind of thing and look like say
a janitor and so yeah I saw thatvideo move your just a biggest
(10:51):
fucking meaty with you know, 500pound deadlift things like can I
just move this real quick to clean these like oh I don't
think you can move any just likemoves it with one hand.
There's like huh? Just so funny.
Anyways that being said, I can'tnot watch those all the way
through. So I've been getting a lot of
weird weight, lifting stuff and it looks really fun.
Like it looks like such Measurable Improvement.
My god dude. I got ya 100-pound.
(11:11):
I don't know the numbers but he's really good at
weightlifting. I miss it.
Yeah, you were weren't you? I was, I was fucking Hefty.
I was a hefty boy. I just like, oh yeah, we let me
get that. Okay, vending machines of shit
like oh the other analogy I was thinking of is from Breaking
Bad. What's an analogy?
It's just on a very modern reference.
(11:32):
It is it it's not now Jesus I iced yeah that show ended in
like 13 14. I Hope so Renata.
Don't remember what that does toradio signals?
I pressure system, I don't know.Oh, which is I do I like to get
my wisdom where I can, you know,I don't like I try to
overanalyze silly TV shows and try to get something out of them
(11:54):
that I wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
I mean, I think it's a good thing to do.
But anyways, there's an episode where if you don't know,
Breaking Bad main two characters, Walter White who is
basically just anti heroing the entire time, it's great show.
But anyways, it's him and he just absolutely abuses the shit
out of Jesse Pinkman. The other main character, he's
(12:14):
just Emulate, see many places everybody, but he manipulates
the shit out of Jesse all the time.
Basically whenever he wants something from Jesse and later
in the show, Jessi starts to catch on to that more and so I
don't remember what he was trying to do.
I think he was trying to get Jesse like leave town or
something and so wild constructed this like huge
series of lies and whatever and he's a genius so it's like
(12:35):
really it works. To try to get Jesse to leave
town. And so, finally, Jesse, at some
point, just goes, like, dude, couldn't you just ask me like, I
know you're fucking lying. I know this is all like couldn't
you just ask me like hey do you mind leaving town for a week or
so like asking me for a fucking favor.
Like does that ever occur to youto do fucking amazing scene?
(12:58):
Now, I'm not saying you're welcome, you're not Walter
White. You were an honest delightful
person. But I think about that all the
time because a lot of times especially when I Think you're a
nerd of urgent, so like human relationships, don't artists
like straightforward to you as they are perhaps to other
people. So you kind of think like, okay,
in order to get to talking to that person at the party, I'm
(13:19):
gonna like, overhear their conversation and find out what
they're into, and then go to thebar and then look on my phone
and do some research. And then I'll talk loudly about
it. Never noticed me and then we'll
get a dog. So, yeah.
Or you could just fucking go up and start talking to them like
that, you're allowed to do that.And so anyways, having said so I
think with like, The game, the critical role game thing like
(13:41):
you could just fucking email me like hey these are micro, I
would be excellent in this game.They still might say.
No, you know, they probably willsay no, frankly, just because
they're critical role but like you're allowed to do that,
you're lying. You're also allowed to be
qualified, you don't have to like into your car.
You can just say I am a fucking immensely qualified to do this
and so many ways. Yeah, I mean, that's not the
(14:03):
neuro divergency so much is the trauma and the growing up in the
midwest talk, which I also want to play.
That's easy to do. I'm sorry, I don't mean to say,
like what? I just feel like you write that
you don't want and then you justlike having, you know?
Yeah, right here. Critical role than backspace
backspace dear Dimension. 20. No, but like, you're right?
(14:24):
Like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
I completely forgot what we wereactually talking about.
Hey you know what that means? I bet it's about time for a
commercial break. Hey get your peanuts here.
Do you want to do this one in saying because like Kickstarter?
(14:45):
You know this Kickstarter for the psychology of Alden.
Ring funded and our first YouTube video is obviously yeah
are we doing it? Is this it yeah fuck it.
I mean I can do both yeah because it all like the the
points that we want to hit, you know those are already standard.
But you know, we just Listen to yeah, man.
Yeah, okay. Yeah, so just well.
(15:07):
Okay, so unofficial commercial work, just so you all know.
If you haven't seen the new video that we put up on my
YouTube channel, which by the way, shout out to Eric.
He did an Immaculate fucking jobediting it.
I'm so proud of it, but we're talking a lot more about video
games and neuro Divergence. And that is because it is
(15:27):
sponsored by geek Therapeutics who's a fantastic organization
that We are partnering with thisyear and they just launched a
Kickstarter for their new book. The psychology of Elden ring.
They launched it on May 2nd and it funded me.
Third, wish I was like 37 hours,I think.
Yeah, it was incredible but it'sgonna be a really cool book and
it is primarily focusing on sortof like the psychological
(15:49):
benefits of playing games. Like Eldon Rings were things
like frustration tolerance and emotional regulation and task,
prioritization and management come into play and its really
cool real or heavy. We got some sample.
Is and like, if you like video game lore, it's like, it's Lord,
I'm sorry. What game or Eric?
I do a lot. I fucking love video game.
(16:10):
We're absolutely like really. Yeah, it was about.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean I'm not like vasiliy
knowledgeable widespread but thegames I do know about yeah, I
know a lot about because like the thing about games like hell
you don't have to give a shit about anything in a video game
because the point is that, the gameplay itself is really good.
Yeah. So you don't have to use like
yeah. Well cope how, but like, a lot
of people put a lot of fucking work.
(16:30):
Making an awesome universe and Shit.
And so, I don't think it's necessarily like any better or
worse or whatever than like movies and books and stuff.
I think it's just often overlooked and people still work
incredibly hard on it and so, you know, it's lure but you can
feel good about it, you know. But yeah, the kickstarter funded
in about 37 hours, which is crazy.
You can still absolutely go support the kickstarter.
(16:52):
You can pre-order the book so fucking absolutely do that.
Yeah. And if you want to just know
more about geek Therapeutics, you can go to geek
Therapeutics.com. But now we'll put in the The
other ads rely with the with the, with the the notes that
what are they called? The points, it's Elites of the
disease. Well you know you got to make
sure we say the right things andI can't remember those peeps but
(17:12):
we did at one point and that's recorded.
So we're just going to play thatfor you now.
Okay. Now seems like as good a time as
any to talk about our new sponsor even geek therapeutic.
That's the very same one. You mean the fine folks who
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Red hot go That's a pro right there.
Yeah, that's exactly who I'm talking about.
But in all seriousness, I'm Ericand I are super, super excited
(17:54):
to announce our official partnership.
With geek Therapeutics, they're an organization that we are
fascinated by an excited by, andwe want 100% believe in the work
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and their friends, and their kids.
And and just It's really useful,really useful stuff.
They can update specialize in things like Supernatural,
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And several more that we can't tell you about.
But we know about, because I'm working with them, and we're
really excited. I'm gonna be super cool.
If you want to learn to be a therapeutic game master, if
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that's your thing, they can do that for you, too.
That's a great way to learn how to build a better Adventure.
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They offer cultural competency courses to encourage, diversity
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and inclusivity. They offer courses on
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Dean. Okay, team this year.
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that. Good stuff.
That is not therapy. You can get 10% off your order
(19:46):
with code infinite Quest. So excited to do all the stuff
we're about to be doing what we're going to be hearing a lot
about us and geek Therapeutics in the coming while and I'm so
stoked about, it's gonna be amazing.
But hey, we should keep talking about that thing that we were
talking. Oh yeah this episode.
It's really it's going the best one I've ever lard 22 on the
chugging trains. Go get back to it.
(20:06):
Okay here we go. Let's go.
Do do do, do do. Okay, so I bet.
So those are really fun after listening to that ad.
They've already forgot about howbad my transition into.
(20:27):
It was that's a great but we're still laughing about it because
that was only like five seconds ago to us.
So here's what you do. You just didn't want that
transition. Oh yeah.
Okay, do it like bumping. Your vagina is so long.
I know dude he do it. Oh yeah transmission of fuck
translation. Transition.
Transition off, fuck a vinegar vinegar.
(20:49):
I got it. I got it this time.
So Lean Back episode, the kind of but but I just did what I
wanted to bring up. I may have borrowed it before
but to the last two episodes of ADHD and D were recorded.
They were great. We fuckin it was awesome.
(21:14):
However, the audio is Got screwed.
We live live at within like a literal stone's.
Throw of a radio tower which we said before.
But I can't emphasize enough howwe mean literally adding shit to
it to do that because yeah that's what happened.
Is the the local station. Like I don't know if they like
expanded her like somebody. I knew company about it but
(21:34):
there's a new dish on it. That's why everything changed.
Okay, that makes sense. Yeah but yeah it's like a decent
quarterback at absolutely fucking hukka Stone and hit it
from like our front door. anyways, so something I guess
they had a new dish or whatever and the audio is It's great.
If you want to listen to our podcast and AM radio at the same
(21:56):
time, like it comes in and out. Well, I think what Bruce
Mellencamp's lot softly in the background the whole time.
So I spent like months, like notonly to trying to fix it but
trying to like learn more about audio engineering such to fix it
because it's not like it's if itwas like completely fucked in
unusable, I would almost feel better about that because then
it's like there's nothing I could do.
(22:16):
But I know there probably is andI just don't know enough and
it's so anyways I it's I think acouple months and I was We
fucking can use. We have to re-record it.
And that just, I'm so just made about that.
I've been like, not like reluctant to, but like it's not
the first thing on my mind is because I'm so fucking mad about
lips, free idea. We could put that up on the
patreon with like say, hey, these episodes got screwed, but
(22:40):
here's how it was supposed to end.
But whether or not we had the same beats this time, because a
lot of it is on the dice rolls. Well, what is also nice is, I
forgotten pretty much everythingabout like all the detail.
I remember the major things. Yeah, I don't remember like how
How we responded to people and stuff.
So we'll be completely original,but that that's got also, I did
(23:00):
when we were talking, I figured out that game that I was going
to make up. Oh, yeah, yeah, II.
Should I say it on the podcast? All right, we just gotta file a
patent or something. Exactly stir.
Well, here's what I think. Okay, dear lister's, here's the
bag. So, somebody on Twitter that I
was talking about different concepts for, like, adding
tension to games and I Don't lie.
(23:22):
Galaxy brain super hard and I came up with a concept for a
game. And so I think I'm going to make
it, I think I'm going to just make like a little PDF download
boy, pay me a dollar and you cantry my game.
I got to like, actually, like write it but that's all I'm
gonna tell you right now. But if you would play my game
email us at ask it. If it was fun, cast.com and be
(23:44):
like, yes, I would play your game or not.
I think we like go fuck yourself.
That happens already. Way.
So it's fine. Speaking of making things I made
the best instrument I ever made at convergence.
You really did its phenomena thanks and I can't replicate.
I'm a like I'm I've been trying for the past day to try to
(24:06):
replicate it but I can't well. So it's got that, It's got Sorry
bit, like grunge on it. So at convergence while Kate was
damning, I didn't have anything to do except for like, try to
film content and make stuff and Shadow to Connor, one of the
owners. Things like title is he's like a
groundskeeper maintenance construction, a guy there and
(24:28):
shout out to Jason because was walking with Connor and Jason
critical Dice and I just mentioned offhand, like how
there's not as many like, crafting materials here as I
thought, I thought it would be like, just trees.
Like it takes takes from and stuff, but it's like a really
well-kept Park. So there's like, no trash.
It's like really nice and Jason was like, oh yeah.
(24:48):
Eric. Yeah, he was like making I think
he said, Treasure from trash or whatever.
There's actually reminds me Connor is there like a big pile
of construction garbage anywhereand Kyle or Connor was like
actually yeah, there's a huge fucking pile of construction
garbage, right out back, take whatever you want.
So and then Eric's eyes lit up, and he was so happy and I felt
bad because I, he was like taking us on like a walking tour
(25:11):
and I couldn't think about anything else.
It's not paying attention. But so yeah, I mean, I found a
piece of PVC which is the Holy Grail over.
Cantor's. Also, if you happen to work at a
plumbing company in Georgia or construction company in Georgia
and you if you would give Eric, you're garbage, Eric would love
(25:34):
that. I've been trying to find a
construction company to give Eric their offcuts for like days
because I thought of it at Home Depot when he's but fucking a
million dollars on PVC we other day and I was like there's got
to be a construction company whowill give you x 6 inch pieces.
Are you ask nicely, right? What's its the connectors?
Those are I should be good on for a while because I have a lot
of, like, lengths of PVC just from various random shit.
(25:57):
It's like, I just need a lot of T connectors and so now that I
have those email is it asking ifI do?
But I found that and then I found a piece of a cocking gun
like cartridge that was just gross and shitty and old.
So I used that those two things to make a membrane, read
clarinet type thing, and it sounds very cool.
(26:18):
And it's right over there. I could Really got fucked up in
the no did it. Yeah, I mean it still works but
the tone is different. It's weird.
I don't know what qualities. It has that made it sound so
good. I use the same material for the
read. I don't know.
Did you use a zip tie to hold iton?
Yeah. Okay.
(26:39):
So anyway, so we decided back back slightly on track.
We decided that we're going to return to scenario strings
Springs. Aw, On Thursday.
So I will have time to listen tothe episode.
That's what, that's what you missed here on.
Infinite Quest. We should run errands.
That's when we listen to our podcast, the Motions were in the
(27:00):
car. I want to go buy plants.
Its planned by in season, right?Yeah.
We have to do that but then we also have to go to a place
that's like exactly one hour and47 minutes there and back so we
can send to that we could go to We could go to the fabric store.
(27:22):
Oh yeah. All the restaurants door.
Yeah. We were there.
Right next door to each other? They are.
All right. Next one of the thymus or and I
could buy fabric for my mummy cosplay, your mummy cosplay.
Yeah, I've decided you're going to dress up like Rico Cottle for
driving Kyle. Oh yeah, surprise.
And you're going to be Rachel. Weisz know, I was gonna be Benny
(27:43):
sure. Now I'm just kidding, but I want
to, I need Make the skirt. I just need like a white shirt
and a suspend. He's but it's part my hair in
the middle. Yeah.
You know, be delightful Charming.
Well, you're gonna have a reallyhard time with that.
I got him. No, no Karina's.
(28:04):
Oh, and also dear listeners. This is a real question.
So add at the convergence, whichby the way, shout out again to
Ivy, and Tay and Jason, and Quincy, and Tiffany for just
making, It all possible. It was an incredible experience.
We had such a good time. Hopefully, they'll do it again
next year and y'all should come because it was fucking amazing,
(28:25):
but I ran a game and I'm really proud of the game, and I'm kind
of like should I run the game for Eric so air can see my game.
Oh yeah, I'd love to. Yeah, but I'm trying to make it
like a one-person thing, but does it what about it?
What about it makes it such thatit can't be long.
I think like some take longer tokill enemies or something.
(28:48):
Maybe I'm not gonna tell you, it's a surprise.
I also want to run a game with with you, I think listening to.
So I convergence it was like a bunch of DM's like, yeah, really
hot. Level TMS and hearing you all
talked about like running the games.
Like the nitty-gritty, not like the stuff you hear about like on
(29:09):
D&D Tick-Tock or whatever. But like diems talking to other
DM's about things, they're actually doing right now.
Like, it was really cool hearinglike, like oh yeah, one of the
people were with was talking about.
It wasn't this game, it was a different game that he'd run,
where his players walked into a room and were like, oh my gosh,
it's an escape room. And they got like, really
excited about the fact that there was an escape room.
(29:31):
Understand g game but it wasn't an escape room.
And so he was just like, oh well, I got to make up an escape
room on the fly right now and hedid and it would prepare only
with went really well but like that's a combination of the
things that I love so much. It's one, it's making other
people happy with stuff. I think of which is really nice
and also having to do that with limited time and resources which
is like my other favorite thing.You know, it's like that sounds
(29:52):
like hosting an experience like that for a group or one person.
Whoever while also getting to becollaboratively creative and
stuff. Like I think, as a player Fire.
I get anxious because I always feel like I'm gonna fuck it up
for the DM. But if I am the DM then I don't
worry about that. Yeah.
You know, and I can play and rights campaign's and stuff like
that. I would want to plan.
You know. Yeah.
(30:13):
Also very recently. Somebody sent me a compendium of
spicy tea. Refugees.
Mmm, that are like spicy, they're spicy.
And I was like, Maybe maybe I'm the shellfish me.
I mean, couldn't any game but byseed a like specifically written
to be spicier like systems aboutlike yeah.
(30:34):
Jacqueline or whatever. No they're like, there's like
there's like a bunch of them butthere's like wine.
We're like I'm actually really interested in what's on like I
don't know like we're like in what context we could ever like
maybe like Frolic on. But like so the concept is that
one person is an explorer. And the other person like their
(30:56):
body serves as like the map. And so like you play, what is
fundamentally a world-building game but you play it like on
their body. So it's like it can be sexy but
it's also just a way of like sort of like getting into your
body and like grounding your partner and I'm like that's
fucking fascinating. That's really interesting.
And like there's another one where you're like a vampire and
(31:19):
it's like a vampire and his like, vampire bride.
I'm sorry. Were you saying that?
That first game is a game. That exists.
Yes. Oh, cool.
Yeah, yeah. And like, it isn't like a
compendium that I got, but then,there's another one, where,
like, your vampire and then, like, his like vampire, bride,
or whatever. And it's about like permissions.
And like, giving your partner like permissions to do things
(31:40):
that they like, wouldn't normally, like, do it was like
is like, it's really interesting.
It's really nice. Yeah, if they're really cool.
And I'm like, I really want to play them but like maybe on
trolleys fans because I don't think we could do it.
You're very different type of like us.
Although Spotify did start putting spicy spicy podcasts out
today. Yeah, they have.
(32:01):
Some did, it is referred to a company as a person.
Oh yeah. Fuck citizens united.
Sorry you got that star politicshashtags.
What did it do? Spotify has a whole erotic novel
selection, I found out. I actually found out on
Tick-Tock. A girl made a tick.
(32:22):
Tock about how spicy there. I haven't listened to him yet.
That's cool. But I'm not one hundo.
I'm also, I know you said you didn't want to talk.
I think it's a good idea, perhaps a good idea to not talk
about it on the back of, so nobody steals it but only May
steal it. But TM TM TM TM TM TM TM TM TM.
Tim your attention building goodin the game that you're thinking
out. Yeah, I think it's brilliant.
(32:43):
Thanks. TM TM TM TM TM Cham Cham Cham.
So really, I want to tell you the idea right now, but we can't
accept. Do you well teaser trailer next
week. Yeah, right, fine, yep.
Also, we just edited, I think. Well, our longest form video in
(33:05):
a very long time, maybe set up before the commercial break.
Well, I know but it's, it's it hit a part of my brain didn't
expect it to which I it's kind of thrilling.
It's I like that. I know I like the pace of it
that you could really likes it and think about how you want
like a bit tool. And you know because Tick Tock
is so like now. Now, now now now now now you
know, as soon as you post a video you're like all right,
(33:26):
that one's whatever and then yougotta like, keep up with the
comments and went out of that video while making the next one.
Whereas I like I like this slower burn of Eugene Britt like
we get to really think about howwe want to do it and then once
we post, if we can like keep up what's going on with it.
Over like scar days, you know? Yeah.
Arcs ways you to put like rule. Three is jokes in there too.
Yeah. So I'm excited for the next
(33:47):
YouTube video, which by the way to go fall, Katie asaurus on
YouTube just gonna say hey go follow.
Hey, dude on YouTube as well. If you listen to this podcast,
Guys, we know how many people listen to podcast, we see the
numbers. There's like a little pay.
There's a little website. We go Boop and it tells us and I
know how many of there are you there are there's a lot and it
(34:09):
would be so cool if y'all came and followed us on YouTube and
Twitter and twitch because that's where I'm still a lot of
kind of going. I really want to start streaming
again to I like streaming. But oh, yeah, yeah, so like so.
Yeah. So a couple of housekeeping
things actually, as we move intothe clothes new year, so we move
(34:34):
into the year. I want you to really sit, he's
grounded in your body, feel the soles of your feet on the floor.
You don't make me feel my body. Then they always say something
about sit bones. Always say, sicko for your but
just see, but well, it's your, the, the part of your like
pelvis that like, you know, actually experiences, the most
pressure water sitting anyhow. We Jeff.
(34:57):
No, because we booked today. I have to record the next couple
episodes of God adventure. Oh, I'm fine on time but we do
have two of The Adventurous MP, which is a I guess.
Yeah, D&D podcast, run by seashell vids or teh height a,
you can find it anywhere you listen to podcast.
Again, that's Adventure SMP where it's D and D, but it's in
(35:20):
Minecraft world. So there's D&D mechanics.
And Minecraft mechanics at the same time and it's delightful,
I'll play a character. PBS jebus, which, is course.
Yeah, just a funny name. I thought of and now he's
becoming a more serious character and its name is for,
this is ridiculous. But hey pavis jebus.
Does what people's cheapest do so that you can also find me on
(35:43):
the unpredicted party with Don Marshall playing the role of a
Owen in a podcast that ask the question.
What would happen if they had just taken the Eagles to Mordor?
So that's fun and amazing. Easing and also don't forget,
it's May you know what that means is mental health awareness
(36:04):
month and also its go give us a review on Spotify month member
last year when we were like, heyguys.
And then we forgot like halfway through the month to keep
reminding you, but guess what? It's the patreon drive.
It's the Spotify review. / Applepodcast Drive Eric is looking at
me because he has no memory of this.
I remember. It's, yeah, but it's May, that
means it's time for the patreon drive.
(36:26):
So hey, do you like our content?Do you like listening to our
content? Do you like our content?
Not here? Do you hate this podcast and
your rage listening to it, as you grit your teeth, and clench
your fists? Give us a dollar.
How does what it was? A massive.
Give us a hate dollar. It was a hey mister hey dollar,
give us a hate $10 or $20 because whatever you can, it
(36:51):
really helps us out because the money that we make on our
patreon is what helps support this podcast and support us
doing the work. That we do going to conventions
talking to people going to conferences, and promoting ADHD,
and mental health about the country and in some ways the
world. So if you would like to do that,
you can go to patreon.com/scishow and put a
quest. And for all of those who you
(37:13):
have been emailing and I know how many there are in, there is
a lot will do. Patreon song on Thursday?
I promise we're going to we're going to bring in multiple
instruments into the booth. Oh yeah, I'm gonna build a grand
piano. Yeah.
Okay. And we Will we will do the
long-awaited patriarchal song pretty chill song.
The patriotic song by Cecil Cecil.
(37:34):
Alright everyone, thank you so much for.
Thank you so much for being here.
Thank you for listening. Remember to eat a snack.
Remember to take your meds remember to drink some water.
Remember to be kind yourself, Remember the Alamo?
Damn it Eric I remember the timethese thanks again to geek
(38:02):
Therapeutics for sponsoring thisepisode.
Just a reminder, you can get 10%off your order on their website
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Infinite Quest. They have a new book on the
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little forward from yours truly in there.
Maybe, if you'd like to help support the podcast, you can do.
(38:22):
So by visiting patreon.com infinite Quest and signing up to
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