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Uncover the chilling saga of the Catahoula Parish triple homicide with us as we guide you through a night that tore through the tranquility of a small community. On an ominous evening in 2012, a frantic 911 call set off a series of events that led to a grisly discovery and a manhunt that gripped the heart of Louisiana. Our podcast peels back the layers of this complex case, examining the evidence left behind in a tiny shed and the intriguing absence of a household member, that together, form a puzzle law enforcement are desperate to solve.
As the Moody Road narrative unfolds, you'll step into the shoes of the investigators as they navigate a crime scene fraught with perplexing clues—bloody footprints suggesting the terrifying possibility of multiple assailants and the haunting absence of shotgun shells that could have offered clear insights. We share how a community's shock turned to an all-consuming hunt for the man who vanished into the night, and the relentless efforts of multiple authorities to piece together the fractured timeline of a family's worst nightmare.
Our journey through Catahoula Parish reaches a fever pitch with a tip from local Scott Fields and the subsequent confrontation that had hearts racing across the parish. Experience the mix of relief and heartache that washes over a community as they face the man they believe shattered their sense of safety. This three-part series doesn't just recount a crime—it's a testament to the enduring pursuit of justice and the resilience of a shaken town, forever changed by one harrowing night.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On April 6, 2012,.
Caterpillar Parish Sheriff'sOffice 911 dispatcher received a
call around 8.20 pm from afemale caller that said she
needed the law there fast, atthe address of 975 Moody Road.
This was in the Larto Lake areaand, as officers responded,
they had no way of knowing thatjust four months later, this
address would be the scene ofarguably one of the most
(00:22):
gruesome homicides anyone fromthis small community would ever
see.
They're ready to take a deepdive in this three-part series
into the case that ignited theflame for this podcast's
existence.
Today we will discuss whathappened in the investigation
and the manhunt for the primesuspect, part 1 of 3, today on
Episode 16 of CINLAW.
Hello and welcome back toCINLAW.
(00:56):
I'm Kelly.
And I'm Kyler, and this is goingto be a trip.
We're going to pack everysuitcase, we're going to pack
extra.
You know what?
We're just going to rent and goto the laundromat while we're
there, because this is going tobe a while and when I win my
money, I'm going to Disney World.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
That's right.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So basically, I can't tell you guys how excited I am
and I know it's really weird tosay about a case like this,
because we're talking about atriple homicide and I'm telling
you I'm excited to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
She's alive.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well, because I've sat on this thing, I learned
about this almost two years ago.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
They don't even know about the things you've sat on.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And I've had to.
I literally told, and I'vetalked to this about this case
to everybody that would listento me talk about it, because
it's just, it's that interesting, it's that enthralling.
There's so much going on, andthat was the reason why I was
like you know what, I shouldstart a podcast, because this
would make an amazing episode ona podcast.
And I started a podcast, andthen I didn't do this episode, I
(01:59):
didn't tell this story Untilnow.
You're welcome.
So, basically, what we, whatI've done, though, because, like
I said, I've spent ridiculousamounts of time working on this
and researching and digging intoevery nook and corner, nook and
(02:20):
cranny, all of the things.
I'm gonna get there, I'm tired,all right.
So I have dug deep, deep, deepinto this and I'm actually going
to get even deeper into it inthe following days here, but
we'll get into that in the nextepisode.
So, point being, I broke itdown into three separate parts
(02:41):
because that's literally howmuch of a volume this thing has
and how much time it wouldactually take to explain.
I think the last time and thisis not the first time that we've
recorded this episodeTechnically we've recorded it
once before, but we had a lotgoing on my niece Peyton, who
was also in another episode withme, the triple homicide
(03:01):
familial, intergenerationalhomicide that we did, the Mark
Morris case she was on that onewith me and she was here and we
recorded this episode.
We had actually broken up intotwo parts the last time, but
when I went back and tried toedit and see how that one went,
it was kind of a train wreckthat indeed didn't a dumpster
(03:25):
fire.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So she thinks that.
I think it was wonderful.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
At some point here in the very near future hopefully
by the end of January we willhave a Patreon and that will be
in the included list of thingsbehind a paywall that, if you
want to listen to it, you aremore than welcome.
I don't know why anyone would,but it'll be there.
So it was fun.
Yeah Well, when you have adrunk person popping in and out
every 30 minutes or so of anepisode, you know it keeps it
(03:51):
interesting, keeps people ontheir toes, but it's not good
for actual episodes.
Neither is cats fighting, so Iapologize if you guys heard that
.
So basically, that's it.
I'm going to go ahead and getinto the episode now, because
there is a lot and this is aboutthree minutes of intro, which
is, I think, the longestnon-episode start time that
we've done in any episode so far.
So, all of that aside, let'sget into this holy mess.
(04:16):
All right, so in the intro Iwas speaking about April 6th of
2012.
So we're in 2012.
This is Catahoula Parish.
It's actually the.
I think it's the most southernpart of Catahoula Parish.
It's called the Larto Lake area.
Larto Lake was a man-made lake.
(04:37):
They put up a dam sometime inthe past.
I don't remember.
I haven't done that stuff forthe last time we recorded, but
with all the other information Ihave to get you, you guys
Google it.
All right, thank you.
So Larto Lake though whenpeople refer to the different
areas of Catahoula Parish, lartoLake is its own thing and
everybody knows where it's at.
It's just kind of there.
So this happened at the propertyof Ms Annie Bell Adams.
(05:05):
She is there, was at the timeof this occurrence.
She was 76 years old.
She had seven kids total.
Yeah, her husband's name wasOtto.
What was most from thatgeneration we wanted to do?
No, I have some of my familymembers, they have like 12.
I get it Same age group area.
(05:27):
Yeah, she was born actually inJuly, july 13th of 1936.
So good, good number away Along time ago, and her husband,
otto, and she owned thatproperty and he had already
passed away at the time thatthis happened.
So, seven kids, they had 12grandkids, 24 great grandkids,
(05:49):
and this was just at the timethat she passed away.
So imagine now how much morethat's spread out.
So she lived there with hereldest daughter, who was Debbie
Adams, and Debbie, at the timeof this incident, was 57 and
Debbie had a boyfriend, hisEnglish, Lee John, and his last
(06:12):
name.
I'm going to butcher Pawn, pawn, ponshey, pawn, ponshey,
ponshey, ponshey.
Don't have a freaking clue, butfrom here on out, in the next
three episodes, we will refer tohim as Lee John, and he was
actually the junior, and I'mjust gonna call him Lee John,
though, because I'm gonna notbutcher that 80 million times
and have everyone Bleeding fromtheir ears hearing me say it
(06:35):
improperly so.
So we've got Miss Annie Bell,76, living at home, at her home
that she owned, with her eldestdaughter, debbie Adams, and her
boyfriend, lee John, and alsoliving on the same property,
which, as I mentioned in theintro, was 975 Moody Road Also
they live up to that too in ashed on the front side of the
(06:57):
property.
Also her daughter.
I believe she was younger thanDebbie, but not the youngest
Daughter.
Her name was Idris EileenEllard and her.
I think she went by Eileen,though, so that's what we're
gonna refer to her as as well.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, it's too close to Idris Elba.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I don't like it.
But don't you but I think it'san eye and a e, I think that's
the difference.
Anyway, she was 51 at the timeof this occurrence and Her
husband also lived with her onthe shed in the shed on the
property.
His name was John D L R.
I think he was a junior as welland his nickname don't laugh,
(07:34):
it's not funny Bozo.
So we've got Annie Bell,property owner the eldest, 76
year old, the mother of Debbieand Eileen.
Debbie is the eldest daughter.
She lived in the house with hermom and her boyfriend, lee John
.
Eileen and Bozo lived outsidein a shed.
Um, eileen was 51, bozo was 45,debbie 57, lee John 41 and miss
(08:03):
Annie Bell was 76, like I said.
So Now we have the five peoplethat live on the property, that
were living on the property atthe time that this happened, and
we are going to go with.
The best way to do this is togo in the same way,
chronologically, as thingshappened.
Um, in real time for the, forthe police, because I think that
(08:26):
just that gets it to where Ican lay things out and reveal
things to you in the same waythat they were revealed in the
investigation.
So I'm probably gonna give youguys a little bit more
information.
Just because I can't help it, Iget excited, um, but other than
that, we're gonna try to findall of this as chronologically
as possible.
All right, all right.
So everybody got the fivepeople.
(08:47):
Did you grab your notepad?
No, okay?
Well, if you become a patreonsubscriber here at the end of
january, I'll send you one.
Okay, so on august stickies toaugust 20th 2012, and this was
the early morning hours.
At 250 in the morning, the 911dispatch Of catahoula pair
(09:11):
sheriff's office got a call andit was from a mr Scott fields
who said that debbie adams hadjust shown up to his house and
she was all bent out of shapeand something was going on here,
talked to her, so he handed herthe phone and then debbie
proceeded hysterically to saythat they were in an argument
(09:36):
back at her mom's house and theyjust sent the cops out, because
when she ran away To go to thisneighbor's house, scott fields,
that she was not calling 911.
From that she heard two shotgunblasts and she wanted the
police to go check and make surethat nobody was hurt.
Now the Police they knew thisaddress.
(09:59):
This wasn't the first time.
Like I said, they had had acall as uh, as recently as april
of 2012 and, from what I gather, that was not the only one.
Um, in the past like two, threeyears that that had happened,
that they had had theseoccurrences where they had been
called out to this address fordifferent reasons, but the
majority of them were eitherlike deserving the peace, um,
(10:21):
drunk and disorderly typesituations, or, you know, just
arguments that were getting outof hand and people get worried
and yeah, so they get the call.
The only officer that's on duty,yes, one officer for the entire
parish.
Yes, because this is a very,very, very, very small community
.
Yes, we have been over thisbefore.
Anyway, they call him and he'sokay.
So we're large.
(10:41):
Oh, lake is in the bottom southCorner of a kind of little
parish.
He was actually in a morenortheastern Part of the parish,
so they tell him and he wasabout to get off work.
That's why he was up there,because he lived up there.
But he takes off, he's comingdown towards the Lartel Lake
area.
They also call another deputyat deputy who is off duty at the
time, but he actually lived onthe same road, on moody road, so
(11:06):
they called him, got him to.
You know, wake up, put clotheson, wait for the other deputy to
arrive.
So they actually, um weredispatched.
Or the officer that was insicily island.
He was dispatched at 253, uh,at 319.
They got another phone call to9-1-1 from Debbie, again from
scott fields house, asking ifthe officers had made it to the
(11:28):
house.
Yet if they knew what was goingon.
She said she was really worriedabout her dog.
They might, you know,accidentally hurt the dog and
enter him and the dispatch, youknow, was like no, they're on
their way, they're almost there,but you stay there because we
need to make sure that you staysafe and that one of the
officers will come and get yourstatement and do what needs to
(11:49):
be done.
You just wait there.
Okay, so that was at 327 at 340.
Uh, I'm sorry, that was at 319at 327, deputy wiley, and hold
on, there's another deputy andcoyote, so I think it was
detective wiley and jackson, butInvestigator wiley was the one.
(12:09):
He was a wiley one that lived onmoody road and he uh testified
later at the trial.
But anyway, wiley Sorry, andthe other officer, they get
there and they are arriving at327, so fairly quickly.
Honestly, it was about 30minutes for him to get down
there from Uh, 35 minutes forhim to get down there from
(12:30):
sissley island to larger lake,which is Impressive.
Um, google it again becauseit's one of those things that I
think we went into that on thelast time we recorded and it's
just, it's a lot, it's a prettygood distance is all I'm saying.
Um, um, normal people time.
He was making good drivingabout 45 minutes, maybe an hour,
just because of the differentgrind you of the roads and all
the things.
You're talking about people thataren't from here because you
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have to go through jonesvilleand then you have to come down
and around and it's the wholething Anyway.
So they get there and becausethe reason that they had to have
two officers and that the onefrom sissley island couldn't go
by himself, it was because ofthe shots fired.
Now they didn't know if thatmeant that somebody was there
and there was a weapon andactively being used or whatever,
because the way that debbieexplained it was she just heard
(13:13):
two shotgun blasts.
She didn't know what actuallyhappened.
So they get there.
And again, deputy wiley, he isFamiliar with this address, he's
familiar with the people.
He knows that there's at leastfour other people that should be
on this property or that thathave been living there.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
So Interesting case.
You're wondering if, if everyou're only uh, you're one
police officer for your countyor you're parish.
In this case, uh Knows wellyour family.
It's probably not a good thing.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Well, I mean probably not a good thing if you think
about it, though, because of howsmall our our community is Like
, I'm sure that the Sheriff'soffice knows how many people we
got here, or at least they havea decent guess.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, we're in a village, it's different.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Right, but the same stuff.
So I'm saying anyway, my point,my point being, is you know
they, they know most of thesepeople.
They've grown up with most ofthese people most of their life,
and they know what's going on.
They know the people.
So, especially out here in themiddle of nowhere, a lot of
times, you know we don't lockour doors, you know that's just
not a thing.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Unless it's to keep the other door from opening
right.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
But you know, we leave our doors open, our
windows open, even though freshair is for dead people.
I mean, it's one of thosethings that we don't have as
much of a security worry when itcomes down to it.
So the same thing with them outthere in the middle of nowhere.
So these officers get there andthey're doing the call, waiting
for a response.
(14:41):
They're not getting any answersfrom anybody, it is silent, and
they go up onto the porch wherethey know the front door access
or what, that the entry way tothe house is, because, like I
said, they've been there before.
So it's not the actual frontdoor, is the guest side, porch
side door that everybody uses,because out here usually you
need one door to a house.
(15:02):
Don't ask me why, it's just athing.
So they go and they're knockingon the door with their police.
Knock that, the one that wakesup the dead.
Still nothing.
And they know, of all peoplethat should actually be there at
you know 3, 30 in the morning,miss Annie Bell, who they know
to be, you know, poor in health,should be there.
If she's there, she should bein bed sleeping, because it's 3,
(15:25):
30 in the morning, right?
So when they still get no answer.
They try the door it's unlocked.
They continue in and stillcalling.
You know, hey, please makeyourself known.
We're here trying to make sure,but it's okay.
Well, fair check.
Yada, yada, yada.
And they hear Miss Annie'soxygen tank Because she is on
oxygen all hours of the day, 24hours a day as most theater on
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oxygen and they follow theoxygen Tooming all the way into
Miss Annie's bedroom, which isimmediately off of the living
room from where they enteredinto the living room from the
door.
They entered in and they seeMiss Annie Bell laying on her
right side, and they continueinto the room, still talking and
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trying to get a response.
They get none, and then Withinseconds they realize that she is
completely Covered in blood.
From her neck area there is awound that is so Vicious and
bloody that it looks like shepossibly could have been shot.
So they immediately up theirante.
They know that this is no longerjust a welfare check this is a
(16:30):
crime scene, homicide, but theypotentially a homicide, but it
doesn't look like she had donethis to herself.
They do a quick clear of thehouse, make sure nobody is in
there and they fall back totheir vehicles, which they had
parked side by side in thedriveway.
Now this is about 345 ish inthe morning, so it's still dark
(16:52):
as all hell and they can't see.
There are nothing but woodsAround this property, around
this house.
It's like a circle drivewaythat goes around the house and
the sheds and Nothing but trees,and then the river is on the
other side of the three sidesthat it has.
So you've got the drivewaycomes in would wood.
Backside of the house is theriver.
So they're back out to theirvehicles because at this point
(17:16):
they don't know if there is aSuspect or perpetrator somewhere
still on the property that iswatching them going to come and
attack them.
Maybe they have a gun orsomething in the wood line and
they're watching, you know.
So they fall back to theirvehicles and they cover each
other.
After they call for backup,they cover each other to let
each put on their bulletproofvest and to wait back up, and
(17:38):
they literally stand back toback for the next 30 minutes
waiting for some, maybe waitingfor backup, to get there.
So at about 345 they call intodispatch and let them know that
they need backup and Send anambulance, but make sure the
ambulance doesn't come down here.
We've got to get the scenesecure.
And then they wake up, the chiefDeputy, which is mr Tony
(18:01):
Edwards, and then another deputythat they send out there.
They also wake up and anotherone of the investigators, mr
Bubba Roy.
That's not his God-given name,but the, that's what everybody
calls him, that's what he'sreferred to.
No, I think it seems likeEldred Eldred.
Anyway, they call him Bubba Royand he is dispatched as well.
(18:22):
But his First stop is supposedto be at the address of mr Scott
fields, to not detain but toscoop up Debbie and take her as
a witness and, you know, makesure she's secure and safe.
So he's going that way.
(18:42):
Tony and the other deputy areheading towards the scene.
They arrive at the scene atabout 340 I'm sorry about 415
and the roughly the same time.
I think within about 410, 415,bubba Roy actually gets to Scott
fields house and picks upDebbie Adams there and takes her
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in the patrol car with him.
Now Tony and them get thereabout 415, and they, at this
point, talk to the two officersthat were there that had covered
each other for the last 30minutes or so, and the two
officers related then theinformation that, hey, as we
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were backing out of the house,we saw two more bodies in the
front yard.
But we couldn't go checkbecause we didn't have backup
and we didn't want to get shotbecause we didn't know if we
were safe.
Yada, yada, yada.
So now at this point Tony rollsup to the scene.
He has no idea that there's morethan one person to be found,
like he thought they were goingout for Miss Annie Bell and that
(19:50):
was it.
And then he arrives on scene andrealizes he's got three bodies.
So they go.
They didn't even do sign oflife for the two when they saw
them when they came out of thehouse because they Couldn't risk
their own safety to go check,but when they went over to To do
a full clearing of the sceneand to make sure everything was
safe that way, and then, oncethey did that, they went to the
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two bodies in the front yard andthey were identified as Eileen
Ellord and Bozo Ellord, sohusband and wife that lived in
the shed of which they were nowDeceased in front of, within a
few feet of they look.
Both of them look like theyhave been shot for sure Bozo,
(20:35):
because the entire top of hisskull is missing and it was
scattered so Far and in so manypieces that they actually made a
GPS coordinate Not to be ableto identify where they were all
over the yard.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
This is a rare occasion that I do in fact feel
bad for laughing.
I just find that somewhatamusing that that had to be
necessary well, because, yeah,because they couldn't that the,
the, the distance and oh no, Iunderstand it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I had never heard of, I think this is the first time
I've ever heard it, and thenafter that, of course, I heard
it like three more times inother episodes but this is the
first time I ever heard it whenI read this two years ago.
So, and then, eileen, she hadsuch a deep gash gaping wound on
her neck area that if theythought that she also had been
shot.
Now, peculiarly enough, theshed that they lived in she
(21:32):
should.
They noticed that there was Looklike shotgun pellets had hit
the roof and busted out a lightbulb, and there were bloody
footprints inside the shed, likeon top of the comforter and
inside the shed door.
And now the shed that I keepsaying and I referring to that
Eileen and Bozo lived in.
This was a literal glorifiedNot even efficiency.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
It was like a tool shed that they had turned into a
quote-unquote apartment bedarea from the video it looks
like it was probably eight byeight or ten by ten, something
like that literally they couldfit a mattress in it and the
mattress touched both walls,both side of each side of the
wall.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
They had enough room to hang clothes.
On one side they had like alittle TV, the one light and the
all the electricity that ran tothat shed was from an extension
cord that was run from the mainhouse.
Yeah, so Basically this thingwas just like I said.
It's a glorified efficiencyapartment but it didn't have bad
.
It didn't have running water,it didn't even have its own
(22:28):
electricity, it was just aelectrical like.
It was just the extension cord.
So they had that out there andthe.
There were four concrete stepsup to the door.
But when they looked inside,like I said, they saw and
pellets of a shotgun look like ashotgun have been shot through
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either into it or up through itand the light bulb had burst.
Like I said, with the comforterand stuff on the on the on the
bed, but there weren't any likebig blood spot, it was just the
bloody footprints on top of thecomforter and they could see
distinct patterns and a coupleof them, but there were two
different ones actually.
I saw that mentioned.
And Outside of the shed theyhad the four steps on the bottom
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step.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
There are two different ones.
There were two differentdistinct patterns, I thought two
different types, two differenttypes of footprints.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yes, oh.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Shu droite.
Okay, I thought you're stilltalking about Show patterns.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, I know just the one that I could see and then
the one that I mentioned.
Now, for whatever reason, andfrom court documents and the
police Reports, they said thatthey thought there were four
shots discharged.
But I don't and I can get moreinto that later, but they said
something about four shots.
I don't know for sure about thefour shot thing, but it seemed
like because of the the shellcasings, I think, is where they
(23:44):
got that from, because therewere spent shells that they
found outside the door of theshed and then one Further away
from this bottom step outside,and then I think they had one
other one closer To the bodies.
I'm really not sure, but I knowthat they had.
They found the empty shellcasings, so they assumed that
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there were that many shots andthey didn't find any shell
casings in the house.
They found an empty box thatwould hold shells on top of the
fridge, on top in the port, onthe porch.
They also found the wallet forLee John on the porch and that
was pretty much it at that time.
Now it started raining as soonas within a, within a couple
(24:29):
minutes of the chief deputy orthe chief investigator of Tony
Edwards when he got there about415.
Within the next three, fourminutes it started pouring rain,
which made it really difficultfor them to get an accurate
Assessment or especially not todocument an accurate depiction
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of the scene, because once itstarted raining it started
washing away the blood that wason the bottom step, which I
think Tony later testified thatit was thick, it was a massive
amount of blood and it hadcoagulated and it was just.
There was a ton, and he believedthat that was where Eileen had
actually Die, was right there,either she'd either been
(25:13):
attacked and like laid there andthen they moved her.
That was his opinion as far asI could gather.
So, but from the pictures inthe videos you it doesn't look
like as much and that's becauseit's been waterlogged.
So they got to working thescene as fast as they could.
But the Roy actually picked upDebbie and brought her back to
the scene at about 420 and heactually pulled in behind the
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shed where the bodies were onthe other side in front of it,
so that she couldn't see theactual scene of what was
happening.
But he pulled in and left herin his patrol car while he went
to the go help process the scenebecause everybody was
scrambling at this point Tryingto get everything documented and
get as much evidence as theycould preserved because it
started pouring.
So Probably not in the properprotocol to take a witness slash
(26:02):
unknown To the crime scene,especially when you saw family
when you still haven't caughtthe well as a caught, you
haven't located the fifth memberof this household when you
don't know and like he's theonly one missing.
Lee John is the only one whohasn't been made contact with
and they still don't know whenhe is at this time.
But they brought her back andput her in a patrol car at the
(26:23):
scene and then bubble Roy wentto go help process the scene.
So, like I said, probablychange protocol after that
happened.
But you know, maybe, maybe,because usually in my, in my
mind, I would think that theywould take the witness or
whoever back to the station,like that would be your first
move to who?
To someone that's working there, that to the jay Park.
That's supposed to be there 24hours a day, or their deputy
(26:44):
that's there, yeah, so anyway,they're sitting there at 420,
the pull-in, and he, like I said, he helps Process the scene.
He actually takes the videothat was the documentation of
the crime scene video and youknow they did the best that they
could for the time and then atabout 506, about 40 minutes
later, 506 ish he gets back intothe car with Debbie and does a
(27:08):
quote-unquote interview, justlike a quick thing.
He was just this recorder fromthe back of his car that he
keeps with him and he's talkingto her about.
You know what had happened thatnight, where it were.
You know the only person thatwasn't there was Lee John Does.
She know where he would go, andso on and so forth.
And it comes to the question ofyou know how would he have left
(27:28):
?
Are there any vehicles missing?
And she said, well, my mom'scar, my car looks like bozos
motorcycles missing.
And At that point they put out abow low for bozo for the
motorcycle which I think waslike black and had flames on it,
and they're still processingthe scene and I think if I don't
(27:48):
, if I remember correctly, Ithink they took Debbie at that
point back to Station to get aanother recorded interview just
to keep her out.
There was safe.
Because at this point now theyhave Prime suspect Lee John has
taken off on a motorcycle.
They didn't find the shotgun atthe scene.
So they don't know for surewhat's going on.
(28:10):
You know, they just don't.
They don't have a shotgun, theyhave shotgun shells.
They have three people dead,one person missing.
He's a prime suspect, for noother reason than to see what
his story is, you know, becausethey didn't find him dead and
they haven't seen hide, no hairof him, and so that's, that's
that's where they're at rightnow.
They take Debbie back to thestation, they continue to
(28:31):
process the scene and At about 730 as they're wrapping up the
scene because they're they'vecalled in other law enforcement
agencies to help them in thelook or in the manhunt of the
search for Lee John.
At this point I think theycalled the saw and Concordia
(28:52):
parish Sheriff's office to tryto come out and help in the
search because this is a verysmall department.
We've talked about this manytimes, cat of a parish,
especially so.
They've got all these differentagencies out looking and
they're wrapping up the scenearound 7, 30 that morning and
they've got the bodies taken out, debbie's taken out, and as
(29:13):
they're about to leave the scenethey had a call From, I believe
it was and his name is JohnnyAdams, but I don't think he was
related.
He was like the, the teacherfor the middle school out there
or something, and he called andsaid hey, there's a motorcycle
out here at the end of moodyroad where it intersects with
(29:34):
the road that the Scott fields.
The house for Debbie went tothat intersection right there.
That's where the motorcycle wascrashed in the ditch.
Did y'all know that?
And they're like oh no, thankyou.
And then you know they finish upat the scene and between 7, 30,
7, 35 ish they, everybody, allof the team that was there at
the scene that was processing,left so zero police presence at
(29:58):
the scene of a triple homicidethat has just happened.
There's no one there, no one,well, that they know of.
So they go out to where themotorcycle is and, yep, that's
bozo.
They actually run theregistration it's not even in
his name and they come to findout later.
He was actually just likequote-unquote, test driving it
(30:21):
because he had planned to bebuying it From the other guy
that was still registered.
It was, yeah, so technicallywhat his bike.
But they found out that a waythat it was actually the bike
that bozo was in Possession ofthat had been driven from the
house to there and they couldtell night in slow they could
tell from the trail and trackthat whoever was driving this
(30:43):
motorcycle had Swerved, fearedoff, lost control and it, you
know, slid, crashed into theditch.
And as they're doing this and asthey're as they're going
processing this, they've stillgot all the other agencies and
Officers out looking for him.
They kind of tighten theircircle down because now they
think he's probably in this area.
(31:03):
They get another little tidbitthat comes in on the wire, that
Lee John's sister, miss ShelleyCole.
She calls in and says Are youalso looking for my brother?
Because he just called me andsaid that he's gonna kill
himself, but he wants to see mefirst and he doesn't know if he
can do it.
But he did something really badand mentioned something about
(31:26):
killing them people.
And they're like oh my god, washe?
Where was he?
Did you tell you where he was?
And sisters like yeah, he's atAnnie's house, he's at Miss
Annie Bell's house.
They're like well how do youknow?
We were just there because hecalled from the landline.
The landline Come to find out.
He was just hanging out in thewoods watching the police
(31:46):
process the scene and doeverything and once they took
off he just kind of rolled backup, went back in the house.
Later he said that he went in,changed his shirt, grabbed some
more beer, grabbed some moreshotgun shells.
He planned on killing himselfand then decided he should talk
to his sister before he did thatbecause apparently they were.
They were close, and so he gotthe house phone, called his
(32:07):
sister, talked to her for alittle bit and then, like I said
, got some more beer and thentook off back off into the woods
.
He didn't even bother puttingthe phone back.
Rude they actually.
Later they they located thephone and I'll tell you about
that here in just a minute.
So once they get thisinformation from Miss Shelley,
(32:30):
they realized that he's back atthe freaking house on the
landline, right.
So they're like oh great, okay,so this is what we need to do.
We got to get another searchwarrant because at this point
they have already left the scene.
They have no right to go back,except for the fact that they
think he's in there, but theprobable cause that they have to
think he's in there still needsa search warrant to be signed
by a judge before they get intothat house.
So they get the Louisiana StatePolice actually to do and
(32:52):
submit the warrant, and JudgeLeo Booth ends up signing that a
little bit later.
But it takes a little bit oftime.
But in the meantime they geteverybody that they can to go
back to the house.
They even call in the RapidSWAT team to go back to this
house and set up a perimeter.
They actually set up a commandcenter at the end of the
driveway.
Okay, so they got the commandcenter at the end of the
(33:13):
driveway.
They're setting up a perimeteraround this house and they're
yelling at him like, hey, giveyourself up, come on out.
And when they finally do get thesearch warrant, the Rapid SWAT
team actually has a robotbecause they're worried right,
they're worried that he's gotthis shotgun and he's sitting up
in there waiting to shoot anypolice officer that comes
through the door.
So this ended in the littlerobot, poor little guy.
He would run.
(33:34):
They run him through there,into every room.
They find no one.
They obviously he's not there.
I already told you guys that, bythe way.
So robot goes in, nobody'sthere.
They go, pull the robot out,they check and sweep the scene
further and just make sure noshotgun.
And it's testified to you laterthat they didn't notice a
(33:54):
bloody shirt or anythingdifferent at the house and a
couple of balls I feel like weredropped.
But I still feel like they dida pretty decent job for what
they were working with and theamount of experience that is not
usually had, especially in acase like this.
There was a lot of moving partsto this and I'm still impressed
(34:14):
that all of these agencies thatcame together to work together
worked together as well as theydid.
So who knows to then.
So now that they realize thathe's on in the house, someone by
the command center realizesthat they can see something off
on the tree line and they walkup and realize that it's the
freaking house phone in the treeline.
(34:35):
So now they have reason tobelieve and to suspect that he
has gone back into the woods andthey're worried that he might
be trying to finish the job offor what have you.
So they make sure that they besafe.
And then they again all pointsbulletin.
They're trying to find this guy.
Everybody be on the lookout,everybody.
(34:56):
You know they're patrollingdifferent areas, they take
shifts and they rotate aroundtrying to make sure that
everybody is keeping their eyeout for this guy.
And they don't.
They don't have a lot of lot ofyou know places to look or
things to.
You know they don't have anyinformation as to where he might
have gone, where he might be.
They've got search dogs,they've got hounds that are
(35:18):
walking through the woods tryingto pick up his scent.
But again, heavy, heavy, heavyrain, and if you roll it around
in the dirt long enough you'regonna smell like the rest of the
woods anyway.
So they keep doing this and itturns into afternoon and they're
still looking and they reallydon't have any.
You know a reason to believehe'd still be in the area,
(35:41):
except for, maybe, the fact thathe would, you know, either want
to talk to Debbie or want tocome back and finish her off,
because they don't know thesituation yet.
So they eventually get a call,and this is when it's already
late, late evening almost atmom's get like 9, 30, 10 o'clock
at night that they get a callfrom so late.
(36:04):
Once again, scott Fields, andgoing on to Scott's fields house
right now is they've got abunch of family over there.
That is morning and drinking,because obviously by this point
they've already notified thefamily and let them know what
had happened or what theybelieved to have happened, at
least, that their family memberswere deceased and that there
was an investigation.
They were still on the look forhim.
And so they're over theredrinking their sorrows away.
(36:26):
And there's a big group, Ithink.
If I remember correctly, I thinkthe testimony was that it was
like 10 to 15 people at leastthat they noticed.
Um, anyway, when Scott calls911 and let them know like hey,
um, I see him.
He's hanging out on a fencepost in my backyard back here
drinking a beer, leaning on thefence post, drinking a beer.
(36:50):
So when the officers get there,the ones that are closest by,
because there were people, therewere officers real close by and
I believe this was Chris Bath,bath, bath that um ended up on
the scene first, or him andanother deputy at the same time,
and when they went to go checkout the spot where he had been
(37:10):
seen, they actually saw like anunopened beer can and empty beer
cans right there in that area.
So like, okay, this is a youknow a good lead.
They, uh, they're walking.
There's a fence line rightthere.
Like I said, he was leaningagainst the fence post.
So they're walking the fenceline.
And the other officer, I thinkhe's going through a gate Bath,
I believe he just crawled to thefence, I'm not sure.
(37:32):
But as he's going toinvestigate and he's just
looking around, he hears a twigsnap off to the side and he
looks, pulls out his weapon andhe's looking and he takes a
couple steps closer and as hegets closer he trains his light
on him because it's dark.
Remember, we're talking.
This is now, I believe, aftermidnight, at the time that
they're.
They're walking out there withflashlights and looking and he
(37:57):
sees Lee John Laying down and assoon as the light hits him, the
flashlight hits him, he jumpsup to his knees and puts his
hands up and at that same timethe officer notices the shotgun
directly in front of Lee John.
So you want to talk aboutanxiety, repetition, scared to
(38:19):
deafness, because all he has todo is lean down, turn and shoot
with that shotgun and thatthere's not a whole lot of best
can do for you.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Lean down, turn and nothing, you just.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Well, anyway, the good news is there was none of
that.
He started to make commandsvery loudly to Lee John to put
his hands up, put his handsbehind his head, stand up, don't
lean forward, don't make anysudden movements.
And he's doing this very clear,very loud, so that all of his
other people that are there andarriving Can hear him and hear
what he's saying.
That way they are aware that hehas found him.
(38:51):
The way he doesn't waste anytime trying to tell them.
He's doing double work byyelling at him as loud as he can
To make sure everybody elsearound knows the situation was
going down.
So no issues, though.
They get him in handcuffs, theypick up and what they find on
him and on his person?
They find the shotgun that hada live round in it, I believe,
(39:12):
and then he had shotgun shellsin his pockets as well as a
Gerber folding pocket knife anda lighter, and Think that was
everything.
I don't think he had any beeror anything on him at that point
.
I think he left it by the fence, so in his belly.
So they take him and, asthey're walking back, the family
(39:35):
that is at the house of ScottFields when, right next to where
they have cat, like you knowgot him in custody.
They see that they have him andthey start mob approaching
right Because they realize thatthey've now got the guy that
they think has murdered their,the three family members, their
(39:55):
loved family members, and theofficers actually testify about
this too.
They were very concerned for notjust his safety but their
safety because they didn't wantto get lynched in in in the
scuffle.
So they quickly get him intothe vehicle, they quickly get
him out of there and take him tothe Cadajula pair sheriff's
office to be processed andbooked and put in the jail.
(40:18):
And that was at, I want to say,one, 130 something in the
morning.
132 was when he called and saidhe had the suspect in custody
and they got him back to thesheriff's office and and got in
process and everybody could takea deep breath and Go take a nap
(40:40):
because some of these guys hadbeen working on two or three
hours of sleep, even though theywere rotating.
It wasn't a lot, and I meanwhen you know somebody out there
or when you believe someone isout there that is capable of
killing three human beings thatSupposedly they looked either
with or around and had beenaround for three, three years.
(41:00):
Especially such a manner is thisespecially the 76 year old
Annie Bell that was damn nearhelpless to Any kind of attack
in her general direction, likeif you could do that to her.
There is no telling and no intoyour limitation of what you can
do so.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
They get back, or there is a lot of limitation
because you chose the weakest.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Right was what I'm saying, like there is no limit
to what you can, what you'recapable of, because if you can
do that to someone, that I knowwhich I would choose, that I
just did it anyway.
So everybody can now take adeep breath, take a nap and Let
the jailer deal with him for thetime being, and Then they don't
actually Do an interview withhim until that same day, but
(41:50):
much later in the afternoon,almost evening fun drinking game
for this, for this three-partspecial.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Anytime you hear they don't actually take a shot.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
They don't actually.
Well now, if I don't want to dothat cuz.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I, because you won't make it look, I live in this
parish.
I live in catapult of parishand I love some constructive
criticism and they didn't dovery well on that and they know
that and they know that.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
You can tell by the testimony.
They know that.
But again, I'm gonna givecredit recorders to do.
They understood that they knewthey were over their heads.
They were in over their heads,they were in a position and in a
situation to Of which they hadnot been in before and that they
did not have any experience in.
(42:34):
If they did, it was very littleand they knew they needed help.
So they did the right thing.
They immediately contactedother agencies and, again to
their amazing credit, theyworked very well together.
There was no dick measuring,there was no like Jurisdictional
stuff.
This was just catch this badguy, get this stuff done and
let's try to do it as best wecan, and I think that they for
(42:56):
for what they had.
I think they did a decentenough job.
There absolutely is room forimprovement and you guys know
that as well as I do, and so Idon't think we should say it or
Rub any baddies knows in it, andI'm definitely not saying about
them at all.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Absolutely right, I I have immense respect for people
that are able to lay down theirpride and actually work with
others to get shit done right,because you know that is.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
That is a complaint.
That happens a lot in thesescenarios where the police or
the investigators of differentDepartments or whatever they can
get their shit together and itcaused the family more pain and
more Unnecessary you know,frustration and terminal and all
of the thing, all of the things, because it wasn't necessary.
They could have got things donein process faster or they could
(43:43):
have solved something, and nowyou know it.
Just there, a lot of, a lot ofmore, a lot more could have gone
wrong.
That didn't.
They did a good job for whatthey did Mostly.
But again, yeah, nobody canlook at anybody's situation, any
situation on the planet, and belike, oh well, I see what you
did wrong there.
It's easy to look back now andsay that when you're in a
situation like that, it's reallyhard to To think and to get
(44:06):
things right, perfect, perfectlyevery time.
Nobody is ever going to.
That's why we have a court tobe able to Describe and just
focus the camera.
Yeah, well, until we see that.
So, but that is where part oneis gonna end, guys, that's what
we're gonna leave you, with himsitting in jail waiting to be
interviewed, and I'm gonna tellyou, the first interviews that
(44:26):
they do opens a whole New bag ofworms, a whole new thing it
blows out everything we alreadythought we knew.
And it's can't warms bucket ofbag of worms.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Bucket it bucket of fish and it's a bad thing bucket
of Bitches.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
no, that's not it Okay.
Also bag of wieners.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
You want.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Also I don't know.
Okay, so next episode we'regonna get more into that.
We're gonna go through Lee Johnand his statements that he
gives, statements plural that hegives to police.
We're going to get into some ofthe background of His life and
cover that and then, and yeah,yeah, that's been, that's been a
(45:09):
, that's been a thing.
That was the only things thatwe haven't talked about that.
I haven't talked to anybody backbecause I didn't know much
about it last time was recorded.
So I, like I said, I've gone,I've gone pretty deep into this
one and We'll get into that andtalk more about his trial and
things of that nature once we,once we get there.
So thank you guys for listening.
We hope you have a wonderfuland if you listen to this on
(45:30):
Christmas, bless you, merryChristmas.
I nobody sneezed, I just saidbless you, but you'll have a
wonderful Christmas.
I have a wonderful New Year'sif you don't listen to this till
way later.
Happy holidays of all thethings, and I just hope you're
happy in general and the thingsare going well and we will see
you guys Well next week.
(45:52):
I'm at least I'm releasing thisevery Monday.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Reconvene and meet back up the next part.
Right, right, right, wheneveryou, I mean like we might hear.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
You might hear us in the night 12 seconds after.
This is Do how you do one timetake, take quick break, kitchen
food.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Good person.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Yeah, because this next part is gonna be rough,
because we're gonna get into howthey died and everything like
that.
It's gonna be pretty rough guys.
So there's gonna be an extrawarning at the beginning yeah,
all right.
Well, y'all be y'all, be good,stay safe and take care out
there.
See you next time.
On April 6, 2012,.
Caterpillar Parish Sheriff'sOffice 911 dispatcher received a
call around 8.20 pm from afemale caller that said she
needed the law there fast, atthe address of 975 Moody Road.
This was in the Larto Lake areaand, as officers responded,
they had no way of knowing thatjust four months later, this
address would be the scene ofarguably one of the most
(00:22):
gruesome homicides anyone fromthis small community would ever
see.
They're ready to take a deepdive in this three-part series
into the case that ignited theflame for this podcast's
existence.
Today we will discuss whathappened in the investigation
and the manhunt for the primesuspect, part 1 of 3, today on
Episode 16 of CINLAW.
Hello and welcome back toCINLAW.
(00:56):
I'm Kelly.
And I'm Kyler, and this is goingto be a trip.
We're going to pack everysuitcase, we're going to pack
extra.
You know what?
We're just going to rent and goto the laundromat while we're
there, because this is going tobe a while and when I win my
money, I'm going to Disney World.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
That's right.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So basically, I can't tell you guys how excited I am
and I know it's really weird tosay about a case like this,
because we're talking about atriple homicide and I'm telling
you I'm excited to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
She's alive.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well, because I've sat on this thing, I learned
about this almost two years ago.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
They don't even know about the things you've sat on.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And I've had to.
I literally told, and I'vetalked to this about this case
to everybody that would listento me talk about it, because
it's just, it's that interesting, it's that enthralling.
There's so much going on, andthat was the reason why I was
like you know what, I shouldstart a podcast, because this
would make an amazing episode ona podcast.
And I started a podcast, andthen I didn't do this episode, I
(01:59):
didn't tell this story Untilnow.
You're welcome.
So, basically, what we, whatI've done, though, because, like
I said, I've spent ridiculousamounts of time working on this
and researching and digging intoevery nook and corner, nook and
(02:20):
cranny, all of the things.
I'm gonna get there, I'm tired,all right.
So I have dug deep, deep, deepinto this and I'm actually going
to get even deeper into it inthe following days here, but
we'll get into that in the nextepisode.
So, point being, I broke itdown into three separate parts
(02:41):
because that's literally howmuch of a volume this thing has
and how much time it wouldactually take to explain.
I think the last time and thisis not the first time that we've
recorded this episodeTechnically we've recorded it
once before, but we had a lotgoing on my niece Peyton, who
was also in another episode withme, the triple homicide
(03:01):
familial, intergenerationalhomicide that we did, the Mark
Morris case she was on that onewith me and she was here and we
recorded this episode.
We had actually broken up intotwo parts the last time, but
when I went back and tried toedit and see how that one went,
it was kind of a train wreckthat indeed didn't a dumpster
(03:25):
fire.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So she thinks that.
I think it was wonderful.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
At some point here in the very near future hopefully
by the end of January we willhave a Patreon and that will be
in the included list of thingsbehind a paywall that, if you
want to listen to it, you aremore than welcome.
I don't know why anyone would,but it'll be there.
So it was fun.
Yeah Well, when you have adrunk person popping in and out
every 30 minutes or so of anepisode, you know it keeps it
(03:51):
interesting, keeps people ontheir toes, but it's not good
for actual episodes.
Neither is cats fighting, so Iapologize if you guys heard that
.
So basically, that's it.
I'm going to go ahead and getinto the episode now, because
there is a lot and this is aboutthree minutes of intro, which
is, I think, the longestnon-episode start time that
we've done in any episode so far.
So, all of that aside, let'sget into this holy mess.
(04:16):
All right, so in the intro Iwas speaking about April 6th of
2012.
So we're in 2012.
This is Catahoula Parish.
It's actually the.
I think it's the most southernpart of Catahoula Parish.
It's called the Larto Lake area.
Larto Lake was a man-made lake.
(04:37):
They put up a dam sometime inthe past.
I don't remember.
I haven't done that stuff forthe last time we recorded, but
with all the other information Ihave to get you, you guys
Google it.
All right, thank you.
So Larto Lake though whenpeople refer to the different
areas of Catahoula Parish, lartoLake is its own thing and
everybody knows where it's at.
It's just kind of there.
So this happened at the propertyof Ms Annie Bell Adams.
(05:05):
She is there, was at the timeof this occurrence.
She was 76 years old.
She had seven kids total.
Yeah, her husband's name wasOtto.
What was most from thatgeneration we wanted to do?
No, I have some of my familymembers, they have like 12.
I get it Same age group area.
(05:27):
Yeah, she was born actually inJuly, july 13th of 1936.
So good, good number away Along time ago, and her husband,
otto, and she owned thatproperty and he had already
passed away at the time thatthis happened.
So, seven kids, they had 12grandkids, 24 great grandkids,
(05:49):
and this was just at the timethat she passed away.
So imagine now how much morethat's spread out.
So she lived there with hereldest daughter, who was Debbie
Adams, and Debbie, at the timeof this incident, was 57 and
Debbie had a boyfriend, hisEnglish, Lee John, and his last
(06:12):
name.
I'm going to butcher Pawn, pawn, ponshey, pawn, ponshey,
ponshey, ponshey.
Don't have a freaking clue, butfrom here on out, in the next
three episodes, we will refer tohim as Lee John, and he was
actually the junior, and I'mjust gonna call him Lee John,
though, because I'm gonna notbutcher that 80 million times
and have everyone Bleeding fromtheir ears hearing me say it
(06:35):
improperly so.
So we've got Miss Annie Bell,76, living at home, at her home
that she owned, with her eldestdaughter, debbie Adams, and her
boyfriend, lee John, and alsoliving on the same property,
which, as I mentioned in theintro, was 975 Moody Road Also
they live up to that too in ashed on the front side of the
(06:57):
property.
Also her daughter.
I believe she was younger thanDebbie, but not the youngest
Daughter.
Her name was Idris EileenEllard and her.
I think she went by Eileen,though, so that's what we're
gonna refer to her as as well.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, it's too close to Idris Elba.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I don't like it.
But don't you but I think it'san eye and a e, I think that's
the difference.
Anyway, she was 51 at the timeof this occurrence and Her
husband also lived with her onthe shed in the shed on the
property.
His name was John D L R.
I think he was a junior as welland his nickname don't laugh,
(07:34):
it's not funny Bozo.
So we've got Annie Bell,property owner the eldest, 76
year old, the mother of Debbieand Eileen.
Debbie is the eldest daughter.
She lived in the house with hermom and her boyfriend, lee John
.
Eileen and Bozo lived outsidein a shed.
Um, eileen was 51, bozo was 45,debbie 57, lee John 41 and miss
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Annie Bell was 76, like I said.
So Now we have the five peoplethat live on the property, that
were living on the property atthe time that this happened, and
we are going to go with.
The best way to do this is togo in the same way,
chronologically, as thingshappened.
Um, in real time for the, forthe police, because I think that
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just that gets it to where Ican lay things out and reveal
things to you in the same waythat they were revealed in the
investigation.
So I'm probably gonna give youguys a little bit more
information.
Just because I can't help it, Iget excited, um, but other than
that, we're gonna try to findall of this as chronologically
as possible.
All right, all right.
So everybody got the fivepeople.
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Did you grab your notepad?
No, okay?
Well, if you become a patreonsubscriber here at the end of
january, I'll send you one.
Okay, so on august stickies toaugust 20th 2012, and this was
the early morning hours.
At 250 in the morning, the 911dispatch Of catahoula pair
(09:11):
sheriff's office got a call andit was from a mr Scott fields
who said that debbie adams hadjust shown up to his house and
she was all bent out of shapeand something was going on here,
talked to her, so he handed herthe phone and then debbie
proceeded hysterically to saythat they were in an argument
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back at her mom's house and theyjust sent the cops out, because
when she ran away To go to thisneighbor's house, scott fields,
that she was not calling 911.
From that she heard two shotgunblasts and she wanted the
police to go check and make surethat nobody was hurt.
Now the Police they knew thisaddress.
(09:59):
This wasn't the first time.
Like I said, they had had acall as uh, as recently as april
of 2012 and, from what I gather, that was not the only one.
Um, in the past like two, threeyears that that had happened,
that they had had theseoccurrences where they had been
called out to this address fordifferent reasons, but the
majority of them were eitherlike deserving the peace, um,
(10:21):
drunk and disorderly typesituations, or, you know, just
arguments that were getting outof hand and people get worried
and yeah, so they get the call.
The only officer that's on duty,yes, one officer for the entire
parish.
Yes, because this is a very,very, very, very small community
.
Yes, we have been over thisbefore.
Anyway, they call him and he'sokay.
So we're large.
(10:41):
Oh, lake is in the bottom southCorner of a kind of little
parish.
He was actually in a morenortheastern Part of the parish,
so they tell him and he wasabout to get off work.
That's why he was up there,because he lived up there.
But he takes off, he's comingdown towards the Lartel Lake
area.
They also call another deputyat deputy who is off duty at the
time, but he actually lived onthe same road, on moody road, so
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they called him, got him to.
You know, wake up, put clotheson, wait for the other deputy to
arrive.
So they actually, um weredispatched.
Or the officer that was insicily island.
He was dispatched at 253, uh,at 319.
They got another phone call to9-1-1 from Debbie, again from
scott fields house, asking ifthe officers had made it to the
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house.
Yet if they knew what was goingon.
She said she was really worriedabout her dog.
They might, you know,accidentally hurt the dog and
enter him and the dispatch, youknow, was like no, they're on
their way, they're almost there,but you stay there because we
need to make sure that you staysafe and that one of the
officers will come and get yourstatement and do what needs to
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be done.
You just wait there.
Okay, so that was at 327 at 340.
Uh, I'm sorry, that was at 319at 327, deputy wiley, and hold
on, there's another deputy andcoyote, so I think it was
detective wiley and jackson, butInvestigator wiley was the one.
(12:09):
He was a wiley one that lived onmoody road and he uh testified
later at the trial.
But anyway, wiley Sorry, andthe other officer, they get
there and they are arriving at327, so fairly quickly.
Honestly, it was about 30minutes for him to get down
there from Uh, 35 minutes forhim to get down there from
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sissley island to larger lake,which is Impressive.
Um, google it again becauseit's one of those things that I
think we went into that on thelast time we recorded and it's
just, it's a lot, it's a prettygood distance is all I'm saying.
Um, um, normal people time.
He was making good drivingabout 45 minutes, maybe an hour,
just because of the differentgrind you of the roads and all
the things.
You're talking about people thataren't from here because you
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have to go through jonesvilleand then you have to come down
and around and it's the wholething Anyway.
So they get there and becausethe reason that they had to have
two officers and that the onefrom sissley island couldn't go
by himself, it was because ofthe shots fired.
Now they didn't know if thatmeant that somebody was there
and there was a weapon andactively being used or whatever,
because the way that debbieexplained it was she just heard
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two shotgun blasts.
She didn't know what actuallyhappened.
So they get there.
And again, deputy wiley, he isFamiliar with this address, he's
familiar with the people.
He knows that there's at leastfour other people that should be
on this property or that thathave been living there.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
So Interesting case.
You're wondering if, if everyou're only uh, you're one
police officer for your countyor you're parish.
In this case, uh Knows wellyour family.
It's probably not a good thing.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Well, I mean probably not a good thing if you think
about it, though, because of howsmall our our community is Like
, I'm sure that the Sheriff'soffice knows how many people we
got here, or at least they havea decent guess.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, we're in a village, it's different.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Right, but the same stuff.
So I'm saying anyway, my point,my point being, is you know
they, they know most of thesepeople.
They've grown up with most ofthese people most of their life,
and they know what's going on.
They know the people.
So, especially out here in themiddle of nowhere, a lot of
times, you know we don't lockour doors, you know that's just
not a thing.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Unless it's to keep the other door from opening
right.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
But you know, we leave our doors open, our
windows open, even though freshair is for dead people.
I mean, it's one of thosethings that we don't have as
much of a security worry when itcomes down to it.
So the same thing with them outthere in the middle of nowhere.
So these officers get there andthey're doing the call, waiting
for a response.
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They're not getting any answersfrom anybody, it is silent, and
they go up onto the porch wherethey know the front door access
or what, that the entry way tothe house is, because, like I
said, they've been there before.
So it's not the actual frontdoor, is the guest side, porch
side door that everybody uses,because out here usually you
need one door to a house.
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Don't ask me why, it's just athing.
So they go and they're knockingon the door with their police.
Knock that, the one that wakesup the dead.
Still nothing.
And they know, of all peoplethat should actually be there at
you know 3, 30 in the morning,miss Annie Bell, who they know
to be, you know, poor in health,should be there.
If she's there, she should bein bed sleeping, because it's 3,
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30 in the morning, right?
So when they still get no answer.
They try the door it's unlocked.
They continue in and stillcalling.
You know, hey, please makeyourself known.
We're here trying to make sure,but it's okay.
Well, fair check.
Yada, yada, yada.
And they hear Miss Annie'soxygen tank Because she is on
oxygen all hours of the day, 24hours a day as most theater on
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oxygen and they follow theoxygen Tooming all the way into
Miss Annie's bedroom, which isimmediately off of the living
room from where they enteredinto the living room from the
door.
They entered in and they seeMiss Annie Bell laying on her
right side, and they continueinto the room, still talking and
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trying to get a response.
They get none, and then Withinseconds they realize that she is
completely Covered in blood.
From her neck area there is awound that is so Vicious and
bloody that it looks like shepossibly could have been shot.
So they immediately up theirante.
They know that this is no longerjust a welfare check this is a
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crime scene, homicide, but theypotentially a homicide, but it
doesn't look like she had donethis to herself.
They do a quick clear of thehouse, make sure nobody is in
there and they fall back totheir vehicles, which they had
parked side by side in thedriveway.
Now this is about 345 ish inthe morning, so it's still dark
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as all hell and they can't see.
There are nothing but woodsAround this property, around
this house.
It's like a circle drivewaythat goes around the house and
the sheds and Nothing but trees,and then the river is on the
other side of the three sidesthat it has.
So you've got the drivewaycomes in would wood.
Backside of the house is theriver.
So they're back out to theirvehicles because at this point
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they don't know if there is aSuspect or perpetrator somewhere
still on the property that iswatching them going to come and
attack them.
Maybe they have a gun orsomething in the wood line and
they're watching, you know.
So they fall back to theirvehicles and they cover each
other.
After they call for backup,they cover each other to let
each put on their bulletproofvest and to wait back up, and
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they literally stand back toback for the next 30 minutes
waiting for some, maybe waitingfor backup, to get there.
So at about 345 they call intodispatch and let them know that
they need backup and Send anambulance, but make sure the
ambulance doesn't come down here.
We've got to get the scenesecure.
And then they wake up, the chiefDeputy, which is mr Tony
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Edwards, and then another deputythat they send out there.
They also wake up and anotherone of the investigators, mr
Bubba Roy.
That's not his God-given name,but the, that's what everybody
calls him, that's what he'sreferred to.
No, I think it seems likeEldred Eldred.
Anyway, they call him Bubba Royand he is dispatched as well.
(18:22):
But his First stop is supposedto be at the address of mr Scott
fields, to not detain but toscoop up Debbie and take her as
a witness and, you know, makesure she's secure and safe.
So he's going that way.
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Tony and the other deputy areheading towards the scene.
They arrive at the scene atabout 340 I'm sorry about 415
and the roughly the same time.
I think within about 410, 415,bubba Roy actually gets to Scott
fields house and picks upDebbie Adams there and takes her
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in the patrol car with him.
Now Tony and them get thereabout 415, and they, at this
point, talk to the two officersthat were there that had covered
each other for the last 30minutes or so, and the two
officers related then theinformation that, hey, as we
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were backing out of the house,we saw two more bodies in the
front yard.
But we couldn't go checkbecause we didn't have backup
and we didn't want to get shotbecause we didn't know if we
were safe.
Yada, yada, yada.
So now at this point Tony rollsup to the scene.
He has no idea that there's morethan one person to be found,
like he thought they were goingout for Miss Annie Bell and that
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was it.
And then he arrives on scene andrealizes he's got three bodies.
So they go.
They didn't even do sign oflife for the two when they saw
them when they came out of thehouse because they Couldn't risk
their own safety to go check,but when they went over to To do
a full clearing of the sceneand to make sure everything was
safe that way, and then, oncethey did that, they went to the
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two bodies in the front yard andthey were identified as Eileen
Ellord and Bozo Ellord, sohusband and wife that lived in
the shed of which they were nowDeceased in front of, within a
few feet of they look.
Both of them look like theyhave been shot for sure Bozo,
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because the entire top of hisskull is missing and it was
scattered so Far and in so manypieces that they actually made a
GPS coordinate Not to be ableto identify where they were all
over the yard.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
This is a rare occasion that I do in fact feel
bad for laughing.
I just find that somewhatamusing that that had to be
necessary well, because, yeah,because they couldn't that the,
the, the distance and oh no, Iunderstand it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I had never heard of, I think this is the first time
I've ever heard it, and thenafter that, of course, I heard
it like three more times inother episodes but this is the
first time I ever heard it whenI read this two years ago.
So, and then, eileen, she hadsuch a deep gash gaping wound on
her neck area that if theythought that she also had been
shot.
Now, peculiarly enough, theshed that they lived in she
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should.
They noticed that there was Looklike shotgun pellets had hit
the roof and busted out a lightbulb, and there were bloody
footprints inside the shed, likeon top of the comforter and
inside the shed door.
And now the shed that I keepsaying and I referring to that
Eileen and Bozo lived in.
This was a literal glorifiedNot even efficiency.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
It was like a tool shed that they had turned into a
quote-unquote apartment bedarea from the video it looks
like it was probably eight byeight or ten by ten, something
like that literally they couldfit a mattress in it and the
mattress touched both walls,both side of each side of the
wall.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
They had enough room to hang clothes.
On one side they had like alittle TV, the one light and the
all the electricity that ran tothat shed was from an extension
cord that was run from the mainhouse.
Yeah, so Basically this thingwas just like I said.
It's a glorified efficiencyapartment but it didn't have bad
.
It didn't have running water,it didn't even have its own
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electricity, it was just aelectrical like.
It was just the extension cord.
So they had that out there andthe.
There were four concrete stepsup to the door.
But when they looked inside,like I said, they saw and
pellets of a shotgun look like ashotgun have been shot through
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either into it or up through itand the light bulb had burst.
Like I said, with the comforterand stuff on the on the on the
bed, but there weren't any likebig blood spot, it was just the
bloody footprints on top of thecomforter and they could see
distinct patterns and a coupleof them, but there were two
different ones actually.
I saw that mentioned.
And Outside of the shed theyhad the four steps on the bottom
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step.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
There are two different ones.
There were two differentdistinct patterns, I thought two
different types, two differenttypes of footprints.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yes, oh.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Shu droite.
Okay, I thought you're stilltalking about Show patterns.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, I know just the one that I could see and then
the one that I mentioned.
Now, for whatever reason, andfrom court documents and the
police Reports, they said thatthey thought there were four
shots discharged.
But I don't and I can get moreinto that later, but they said
something about four shots.
I don't know for sure about thefour shot thing, but it seemed
like because of the the shellcasings, I think, is where they
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got that from, because therewere spent shells that they
found outside the door of theshed and then one Further away
from this bottom step outside,and then I think they had one
other one closer To the bodies.
I'm really not sure, but I knowthat they had.
They found the empty shellcasings, so they assumed that
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there were that many shots andthey didn't find any shell
casings in the house.
They found an empty box thatwould hold shells on top of the
fridge, on top in the port, onthe porch.
They also found the wallet forLee John on the porch and that
was pretty much it at that time.
Now it started raining as soonas within a, within a couple
(24:29):
minutes of the chief deputy orthe chief investigator of Tony
Edwards when he got there about415.
Within the next three, fourminutes it started pouring rain,
which made it really difficultfor them to get an accurate
Assessment or especially not todocument an accurate depiction
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of the scene, because once itstarted raining it started
washing away the blood that wason the bottom step, which I
think Tony later testified thatit was thick, it was a massive
amount of blood and it hadcoagulated and it was just.
There was a ton, and he believedthat that was where Eileen had
actually Die, was right there,either she'd either been
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attacked and like laid there andthen they moved her.
That was his opinion as far asI could gather.
So, but from the pictures inthe videos you it doesn't look
like as much and that's becauseit's been waterlogged.
So they got to working thescene as fast as they could.
But the Roy actually picked upDebbie and brought her back to
the scene at about 420 and heactually pulled in behind the
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shed where the bodies were onthe other side in front of it,
so that she couldn't see theactual scene of what was
happening.
But he pulled in and left herin his patrol car while he went
to the go help process the scenebecause everybody was
scrambling at this point Tryingto get everything documented and
get as much evidence as theycould preserved because it
started pouring.
So Probably not in the properprotocol to take a witness slash
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unknown To the crime scene,especially when you saw family
when you still haven't caughtthe well as a caught, you
haven't located the fifth memberof this household when you
don't know and like he's theonly one missing.
Lee John is the only one whohasn't been made contact with
and they still don't know whenhe is at this time.
But they brought her back andput her in a patrol car at the
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scene and then bubble Roy wentto go help process the scene.
So, like I said, probablychange protocol after that
happened.
But you know, maybe, maybe,because usually in my, in my
mind, I would think that theywould take the witness or
whoever back to the station,like that would be your first
move to who?
To someone that's working there, that to the jay Park.
That's supposed to be there 24hours a day, or their deputy
(26:44):
that's there, yeah, so anyway,they're sitting there at 420,
the pull-in, and he, like I said, he helps Process the scene.
He actually takes the videothat was the documentation of
the crime scene video and youknow they did the best that they
could for the time and then atabout 506, about 40 minutes
later, 506 ish he gets back intothe car with Debbie and does a
(27:08):
quote-unquote interview, justlike a quick thing.
He was just this recorder fromthe back of his car that he
keeps with him and he's talkingto her about.
You know what had happened thatnight, where it were.
You know the only person thatwasn't there was Lee John Does.
She know where he would go, andso on and so forth.
And it comes to the question ofyou know how would he have left
(27:28):
?
Are there any vehicles missing?
And she said, well, my mom'scar, my car looks like bozos
motorcycles missing.
And At that point they put out abow low for bozo for the
motorcycle which I think waslike black and had flames on it,
and they're still processingthe scene and I think if I don't
(27:48):
, if I remember correctly, Ithink they took Debbie at that
point back to Station to get aanother recorded interview just
to keep her out.
There was safe.
Because at this point now theyhave Prime suspect Lee John has
taken off on a motorcycle.
They didn't find the shotgun atthe scene.
So they don't know for surewhat's going on.
(28:10):
You know, they just don't.
They don't have a shotgun, theyhave shotgun shells.
They have three people dead,one person missing.
He's a prime suspect, for noother reason than to see what
his story is, you know, becausethey didn't find him dead and
they haven't seen hide, no hairof him, and so that's, that's
that's where they're at rightnow.
They take Debbie back to thestation, they continue to
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process the scene and At about 730 as they're wrapping up the
scene because they're they'vecalled in other law enforcement
agencies to help them in thelook or in the manhunt of the
search for Lee John.
At this point I think theycalled the saw and Concordia
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parish Sheriff's office to tryto come out and help in the
search because this is a verysmall department.
We've talked about this manytimes, cat of a parish,
especially so.
They've got all these differentagencies out looking and
they're wrapping up the scenearound 7, 30 that morning and
they've got the bodies taken out, debbie's taken out, and as
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they're about to leave the scenethey had a call From, I believe
it was and his name is JohnnyAdams, but I don't think he was
related.
He was like the, the teacherfor the middle school out there
or something, and he called andsaid hey, there's a motorcycle
out here at the end of moodyroad where it intersects with
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the road that the Scott fields.
The house for Debbie went tothat intersection right there.
That's where the motorcycle wascrashed in the ditch.
Did y'all know that?
And they're like oh no, thankyou.
And then you know they finish upat the scene and between 7, 30,
7, 35 ish they, everybody, allof the team that was there at
the scene that was processing,left so zero police presence at
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the scene of a triple homicidethat has just happened.
There's no one there, no one,well, that they know of.
So they go out to where themotorcycle is and, yep, that's
bozo.
They actually run theregistration it's not even in
his name and they come to findout later.
He was actually just likequote-unquote, test driving it
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because he had planned to bebuying it From the other guy
that was still registered.
It was, yeah, so technicallywhat his bike.
But they found out that a waythat it was actually the bike
that bozo was in Possession ofthat had been driven from the
house to there and they couldtell night in slow they could
tell from the trail and trackthat whoever was driving this
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motorcycle had Swerved, fearedoff, lost control and it, you
know, slid, crashed into theditch.
And as they're doing this and asthey're as they're going
processing this, they've stillgot all the other agencies and
Officers out looking for him.
They kind of tighten theircircle down because now they
think he's probably in this area.
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They get another little tidbitthat comes in on the wire, that
Lee John's sister, miss ShelleyCole.
She calls in and says Are youalso looking for my brother?
Because he just called me andsaid that he's gonna kill
himself, but he wants to see mefirst and he doesn't know if he
can do it.
But he did something really badand mentioned something about
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killing them people.
And they're like oh my god, washe?
Where was he?
Did you tell you where he was?
And sisters like yeah, he's atAnnie's house, he's at Miss
Annie Bell's house.
They're like well how do youknow?
We were just there because hecalled from the landline.
The landline Come to find out.
He was just hanging out in thewoods watching the police
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process the scene and doeverything and once they took
off he just kind of rolled backup, went back in the house.
Later he said that he went in,changed his shirt, grabbed some
more beer, grabbed some moreshotgun shells.
He planned on killing himselfand then decided he should talk
to his sister before he did thatbecause apparently they were.
They were close, and so he gotthe house phone, called his
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sister, talked to her for alittle bit and then, like I said
, got some more beer and thentook off back off into the woods
.
He didn't even bother puttingthe phone back.
Rude they actually.
Later they they located thephone and I'll tell you about
that here in just a minute.
So once they get thisinformation from Miss Shelley,
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they realized that he's back atthe freaking house on the
landline, right.
So they're like oh great, okay,so this is what we need to do.
We got to get another searchwarrant because at this point
they have already left the scene.
They have no right to go back,except for the fact that they
think he's in there, but theprobable cause that they have to
think he's in there still needsa search warrant to be signed
by a judge before they get intothat house.
So they get the Louisiana StatePolice actually to do and
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submit the warrant, and JudgeLeo Booth ends up signing that a
little bit later.
But it takes a little bit oftime.
But in the meantime they geteverybody that they can to go
back to the house.
They even call in the RapidSWAT team to go back to this
house and set up a perimeter.
They actually set up a commandcenter at the end of the
driveway.
Okay, so they got the commandcenter at the end of the
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driveway.
They're setting up a perimeteraround this house and they're
yelling at him like, hey, giveyourself up, come on out.
And when they finally do get thesearch warrant, the Rapid SWAT
team actually has a robotbecause they're worried right,
they're worried that he's gotthis shotgun and he's sitting up
in there waiting to shoot anypolice officer that comes
through the door.
So this ended in the littlerobot, poor little guy.
He would run.
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They run him through there,into every room.
They find no one.
They obviously he's not there.
I already told you guys that, bythe way.
So robot goes in, nobody'sthere.
They go, pull the robot out,they check and sweep the scene
further and just make sure noshotgun.
And it's testified to you laterthat they didn't notice a
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bloody shirt or anythingdifferent at the house and a
couple of balls I feel like weredropped.
But I still feel like they dida pretty decent job for what
they were working with and theamount of experience that is not
usually had, especially in acase like this.
There was a lot of moving partsto this and I'm still impressed
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that all of these agencies thatcame together to work together
worked together as well as theydid.
So who knows to then.
So now that they realize thathe's on in the house, someone by
the command center realizesthat they can see something off
on the tree line and they walkup and realize that it's the
freaking house phone in the treeline.
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So now they have reason tobelieve and to suspect that he
has gone back into the woods andthey're worried that he might
be trying to finish the job offor what have you.
So they make sure that they besafe.
And then they again all pointsbulletin.
They're trying to find this guy.
Everybody be on the lookout,everybody.
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You know they're patrollingdifferent areas, they take
shifts and they rotate aroundtrying to make sure that
everybody is keeping their eyeout for this guy.
And they don't.
They don't have a lot of lot ofyou know places to look or
things to.
You know they don't have anyinformation as to where he might
have gone, where he might be.
They've got search dogs,they've got hounds that are
(35:18):
walking through the woods tryingto pick up his scent.
But again, heavy, heavy, heavyrain, and if you roll it around
in the dirt long enough you'regonna smell like the rest of the
woods anyway.
So they keep doing this and itturns into afternoon and they're
still looking and they reallydon't have any.
You know a reason to believehe'd still be in the area,
(35:41):
except for, maybe, the fact thathe would, you know, either want
to talk to Debbie or want tocome back and finish her off,
because they don't know thesituation yet.
So they eventually get a call,and this is when it's already
late, late evening almost atmom's get like 9, 30, 10 o'clock
at night that they get a callfrom so late.
(36:04):
Once again, scott Fields, andgoing on to Scott's fields house
right now is they've got abunch of family over there.
That is morning and drinking,because obviously by this point
they've already notified thefamily and let them know what
had happened or what theybelieved to have happened, at
least, that their family memberswere deceased and that there
was an investigation.
They were still on the look forhim.
And so they're over theredrinking their sorrows away.
(36:26):
And there's a big group, Ithink.
If I remember correctly, I thinkthe testimony was that it was
like 10 to 15 people at leastthat they noticed.
Um, anyway, when Scott calls911 and let them know like hey,
um, I see him.
He's hanging out on a fencepost in my backyard back here
drinking a beer, leaning on thefence post, drinking a beer.
(36:50):
So when the officers get there,the ones that are closest by,
because there were people, therewere officers real close by and
I believe this was Chris Bath,bath, bath that um ended up on
the scene first, or him andanother deputy at the same time,
and when they went to go checkout the spot where he had been
(37:10):
seen, they actually saw like anunopened beer can and empty beer
cans right there in that area.
So like, okay, this is a youknow a good lead.
They, uh, they're walking.
There's a fence line rightthere.
Like I said, he was leaningagainst the fence post.
So they're walking the fenceline.
And the other officer, I thinkhe's going through a gate Bath,
I believe he just crawled to thefence, I'm not sure.
(37:32):
But as he's going toinvestigate and he's just
looking around, he hears a twigsnap off to the side and he
looks, pulls out his weapon andhe's looking and he takes a
couple steps closer and as hegets closer he trains his light
on him because it's dark.
Remember, we're talking.
This is now, I believe, aftermidnight, at the time that
they're.
They're walking out there withflashlights and looking and he
(37:57):
sees Lee John Laying down and assoon as the light hits him, the
flashlight hits him, he jumpsup to his knees and puts his
hands up and at that same timethe officer notices the shotgun
directly in front of Lee John.
So you want to talk aboutanxiety, repetition, scared to
(38:19):
deafness, because all he has todo is lean down, turn and shoot
with that shotgun and thatthere's not a whole lot of best
can do for you.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Lean down, turn and nothing, you just.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Well, anyway, the good news is there was none of
that.
He started to make commandsvery loudly to Lee John to put
his hands up, put his handsbehind his head, stand up, don't
lean forward, don't make anysudden movements.
And he's doing this very clear,very loud, so that all of his
other people that are there andarriving Can hear him and hear
what he's saying.
That way they are aware that hehas found him.
(38:51):
The way he doesn't waste anytime trying to tell them.
He's doing double work byyelling at him as loud as he can
To make sure everybody elsearound knows the situation was
going down.
So no issues, though.
They get him in handcuffs, theypick up and what they find on
him and on his person?
They find the shotgun that hada live round in it, I believe,
(39:12):
and then he had shotgun shellsin his pockets as well as a
Gerber folding pocket knife anda lighter, and Think that was
everything.
I don't think he had any beeror anything on him at that point
.
I think he left it by the fence, so in his belly.
So they take him and, asthey're walking back, the family
(39:35):
that is at the house of ScottFields when, right next to where
they have cat, like you knowgot him in custody.
They see that they have him andthey start mob approaching
right Because they realize thatthey've now got the guy that
they think has murdered their,the three family members, their
(39:55):
loved family members, and theofficers actually testify about
this too.
They were very concerned for notjust his safety but their
safety because they didn't wantto get lynched in in in the
scuffle.
So they quickly get him intothe vehicle, they quickly get
him out of there and take him tothe Cadajula pair sheriff's
office to be processed andbooked and put in the jail.
(40:18):
And that was at, I want to say,one, 130 something in the
morning.
132 was when he called and saidhe had the suspect in custody
and they got him back to thesheriff's office and and got in
process and everybody could takea deep breath and Go take a nap
(40:40):
because some of these guys hadbeen working on two or three
hours of sleep, even though theywere rotating.
It wasn't a lot, and I meanwhen you know somebody out there
or when you believe someone isout there that is capable of
killing three human beings thatSupposedly they looked either
with or around and had beenaround for three, three years.
(41:00):
Especially such a manner is thisespecially the 76 year old
Annie Bell that was damn nearhelpless to Any kind of attack
in her general direction, likeif you could do that to her.
There is no telling and no intoyour limitation of what you can
do so.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
They get back, or there is a lot of limitation
because you chose the weakest.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Right was what I'm saying, like there is no limit
to what you can, what you'recapable of, because if you can
do that to someone, that I knowwhich I would choose, that I
just did it anyway.
So everybody can now take adeep breath, take a nap and Let
the jailer deal with him for thetime being, and Then they don't
actually Do an interview withhim until that same day, but
(41:50):
much later in the afternoon,almost evening fun drinking game
for this, for this three-partspecial.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Anytime you hear they don't actually take a shot.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
They don't actually.
Well now, if I don't want to dothat cuz.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I, because you won't make it look, I live in this
parish.
I live in catapult of parishand I love some constructive
criticism and they didn't dovery well on that and they know
that and they know that.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
You can tell by the testimony.
They know that.
But again, I'm gonna givecredit recorders to do.
They understood that they knewthey were over their heads.
They were in over their heads,they were in a position and in a
situation to Of which they hadnot been in before and that they
did not have any experience in.
(42:34):
If they did, it was very littleand they knew they needed help.
So they did the right thing.
They immediately contactedother agencies and, again to
their amazing credit, theyworked very well together.
There was no dick measuring,there was no like Jurisdictional
stuff.
This was just catch this badguy, get this stuff done and
let's try to do it as best wecan, and I think that they for
(42:56):
for what they had.
I think they did a decentenough job.
There absolutely is room forimprovement and you guys know
that as well as I do, and so Idon't think we should say it or
Rub any baddies knows in it, andI'm definitely not saying about
them at all.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Absolutely right, I I have immense respect for people
that are able to lay down theirpride and actually work with
others to get shit done right,because you know that is.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
That is a complaint.
That happens a lot in thesescenarios where the police or
the investigators of differentDepartments or whatever they can
get their shit together and itcaused the family more pain and
more Unnecessary you know,frustration and terminal and all
of the thing, all of the things, because it wasn't necessary.
They could have got things donein process faster or they could
(43:43):
have solved something, and nowyou know it.
Just there, a lot of, a lot ofmore, a lot more could have gone
wrong.
That didn't.
They did a good job for whatthey did Mostly.
But again, yeah, nobody canlook at anybody's situation, any
situation on the planet, and belike, oh well, I see what you
did wrong there.
It's easy to look back now andsay that when you're in a
situation like that, it's reallyhard to To think and to get
(44:06):
things right, perfect, perfectlyevery time.
Nobody is ever going to.
That's why we have a court tobe able to Describe and just
focus the camera.
Yeah, well, until we see that.
So, but that is where part oneis gonna end, guys, that's what
we're gonna leave you, with himsitting in jail waiting to be
interviewed, and I'm gonna tellyou, the first interviews that
(44:26):
they do opens a whole New bag ofworms, a whole new thing it
blows out everything we alreadythought we knew.
And it's can't warms bucket ofbag of worms.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Bucket it bucket of fish and it's a bad thing bucket
of Bitches.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
no, that's not it Okay.
Also bag of wieners.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
You want.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Also I don't know.
Okay, so next episode we'regonna get more into that.
We're gonna go through Lee Johnand his statements that he
gives, statements plural that hegives to police.
We're going to get into some ofthe background of His life and
cover that and then, and yeah,yeah, that's been, that's been a
(45:09):
, that's been a thing.
That was the only things thatwe haven't talked about that.
I haven't talked to anybody backbecause I didn't know much
about it last time was recorded.
So I, like I said, I've gone,I've gone pretty deep into this
one and We'll get into that andtalk more about his trial and
things of that nature once we,once we get there.
So thank you guys for listening.
We hope you have a wonderfuland if you listen to this on
(45:30):
Christmas, bless you, merryChristmas.
I nobody sneezed, I just saidbless you, but you'll have a
wonderful Christmas.
I have a wonderful New Year'sif you don't listen to this till
way later.
Happy holidays of all thethings, and I just hope you're
happy in general and the thingsare going well and we will see
you guys Well next week.
(45:52):
I'm at least I'm releasing thisevery Monday.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Reconvene and meet back up the next part.
Right, right, right, wheneveryou, I mean like we might hear.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
You might hear us in the night 12 seconds after.
This is Do how you do one timetake, take quick break, kitchen
food.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Good person.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Yeah, because this next part is gonna be rough,
because we're gonna get into howthey died and everything like
that.
It's gonna be pretty rough guys.
So there's gonna be an extrawarning at the beginning yeah,
all right.
Well, y'all be y'all, be good,stay safe and take care out
there.
See you next time.
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