March 5, 2025 • 39 mins
Today is the 6th annual CPMAs, see you there!
This week we have:
Nick Meyers:
Like most of us, Nick loved music from a young age; He started attending local shows and writing about his experiences in the early 2000s, and soon he was planning his own awards show. Quickly growing his ideas into a business in 2007. Fast forward to current day, Nick runs 717 Entertainment, booking first time stage performers and local acts all the way to nationally known artists. If you'd like to attend an upcoming show, or contact them for booking check out their website below.
https://www.717entertainment.com/
https://www.facebook.com/717Entertainmentllc
&
Dinosaurs In Paris:
Dinosaurs In Paris is a 5 piece Easycore band from Shippensburg, PA. Born in 2019, they have released a 6 song EP, a 10 song LP, a 3 song EP, and quite a few singles. They have played all over PA and the East Coast. You can't deny if you have heard their name it sticks in your head, and it's the same for their music. We couldn't be happier to have these guys on to sit down and give us some of their back story.
https://dinosinparis2020.wixsite.com/dinosaursinparis
https://www.facebook.com/dinosinparis/
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Central Pennsylvania Music
Podcast Tonight Nick Myers andDinosaurs in Paris.
This episode is sponsored byMembers, First and now your
hosts, Daniel Kime and AlanMcCutcheon.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hello and welcome to the Central Pennsylvania Music
Podcast.
I'm your host, daniel, and I'myour co-host, alan, coming up.
We have Nick.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Myers and dinosaurs in Paris.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We are here with Nick Myers of 717 Entertainment.
Nick, thank you so much forcoming out and joining us on the
show tonight.
Thank you, guys, so much forhaving me.
Of course, of course, man,we're really excited to have you
here.
You've been doing music in thearea for quite some time now, I
guess booking music in the areahere for quite some time now.
Man, take us through yourjourney.
Where did this all start?
Let's start at the beginning.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
We'll so I really enjoyed going to concerts, since
I was probably I don't know Idon't really want to show my age
too much, but early 90s we'llsay, okay, I don't want to age
me too much, and generally itwas the more you know like U2,
stuff like that.
And then I started going tosome local shows.
I actually don't rememberspecifically why I started going
(01:22):
to local shows, because they'reawesome, yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Well.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I mean they are awesome.
Well, actually, you know what Ido?
Know why?
Because a former band member ofmine who had moved was back in
town.
He was in another band, so wewent out to see him and we
thought, wow, this is actuallypretty cool.
It was over at Wanda's.
Oh wow, I haven't heard thatname in forever.
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Oh wow, I haven't heard that name in forever yeah,
it was at Wanda's.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
What is Wanda's?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
now G-Man.
No, Wanda's is a.
Well, it was an empty parkinglot for a while.
Now they're turning it into aBJ's, unfortunately.
Well, not unfortunately, but itwas a nice venue for music.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Oh my God, it was a hardware bar.
Yeah, it was a hardware bar.
It was attached to the hotel.
Yes, mulligans, not Mulligans,it was like an Irish name before
it closed.
There were so many names.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Yeah, it went through a lot of different owners, I
believe.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, whatever they were, the Carlisle Pike, like
right where it meets 581.
Yep.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Right, but back in the black and white days it was
called Wanda's when I went thereand so we enjoyed that.
So I started going to morelocal shows.
I started writing about theshows just little reviews and
whatnot.
And I'm sort of a weirdo aboutset lists and stuff, so I always
try to get set lists and writethem down and include those in
(02:33):
my reviews and whatnot.
So I started writing for twodifferent sites.
One was called the Lab and onewas called Harrisburg Online and
they had this message board.
It called a message board thatsomeone had brought the idea up
about a local award show andnobody really wanted to take it
on.
I thought that's a cool idea.
(02:55):
Like that'd be really cool.
So I uh, this was back in themyspace days, so originally I
didn't think I was able to dolike a show a show.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Because I was like man, I don't have the capital to
do like a show or whateverbecause I had no idea what I was
doing and I thought, well, youknow, what would be kind of cool
is if we just did like, we hadlike categories, then we did
awards and we could have likelocal band members, celebrities,
(03:27):
radio people, whatever hand outor not hand out, but just like
announce the awards on theirMySpace page at a certain time,
like hey, nine o'clock so-and-sois going to announce this album
or whatever.
And then I talked to a buddy ofmine named Mitch Taylor or not
Mitch, it was his brother, kylefrom Julian Fist and he said,
you know, it wouldn't cost thatmuch money to do a show.
(03:47):
And he had mentioned aboutGalifties over in New Cumberland
, and I said really.
And he said, yeah, I mean, it'san award show.
You could, you know, I thinkyou actually might make money
doing it.
And I'm like really.
So I was introduced to a guynamed Matt over at Califties who
was the owner at the time, andI did the award show.
(04:11):
It was a mass cluster of about13 bands in about three hours.
I thought it would be cool todo an actual award show where
you had bands do two songs, thenan actual award show where you
had bands do like two songs,then an award two songs and it
was.
It was a mess, it was a truemess, but for some reason I
(04:32):
loved it.
Did you tried it?
I did and I started your mess itwas my mess and I started big
so I thought, well, what thehell, let's try another show.
So we did a show, the dragonfly.
Then I just kind of fell inlove with glyftes and from there
on it just kind of grew, gotbigger.
I'd bring in bands fromBaltimore, a couple from New
York, jersey, from Scranton.
(04:54):
Then we started doing somenationals here and there.
I think one of the first oneswas the Dreaming.
It was a side project with, uh,christopher hall, the stabbing
westward singer.
Okay, so that really got megoing too, because I was a huge
stabbing westward fan.
So to meet him and to book him.
(05:15):
It wasn't the stabbing westward, but still to book him was
pretty cool oh my god, yeah soeverything just kind of grew,
and that's kind of where we arenow.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Wow, you definitely went through a journey with that
man, so I've got to ask becauseI'm sure there's any other
viewers out here that are tryingto do the same thing what would
you say was probably thehardest thing for you to learn
on your own, since youessentially did this from
scratch?
What's the biggest lesson youlearned through doing this?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Oh man, I don't even remember those days.
My memory is a shot like we'retalking off camera.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Can't even remember what I ate for lunch three days
ago, exactly, exactly, yeah or Idon't remember how I got here.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Um, I would say probably the hardest thing was
um getting I don't knoweverything.
I mean, I don't want to soundlike cocky, but it just
everything was.
It came kind of natural,honestly.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
There's a lot of issues you have throughout.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Like logistically there's logistic issues.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
But as far as just starting up it, I don't know it
was just kind of like one ofthose things you're just meant
to do.
I guess you know once you startonce you get into it, you know
you got issues with bands.
I mean, for example, even thefirst show I did, the, the, that
award show I did, was, um, youknow, we had raise sponsor the
(06:41):
show, so, so we had, you know,with with 13 bands and, um, you
know, five minutes and six orseven minute changeovers, you
kind of had to go with the flow,so everybody used the same
equipment and that kind of thing.
And you'll have people that arenot going to want to do that.
And one example of that showthere was a band I won't even
mention the name, I don't eventhink they're around anymore,
(07:02):
but they refused and uh, so Iended up, just we kind of came
to agreement where I told themif they don't want to use that
kit, then they don't have toplay.
They kind of scoffed at me andwe basically I told the sound
guy I said, you know, we justgained about eight minutes of
time because they're not playingnow.
So it was those little things,um, and that's not as as bad now
(07:28):
when we have the longerchangeovers and bands want to
use their own equipment andstuff.
I'm not, I don't want to shiton that, because yeah, a lot of
bands like to do that and that'stotally cool.
But, um, you know, there's, likeI said, there is or like you
said there is logistical issueswith stuff like that.
So yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well, I think like the music scene is kind of grown
a lot too.
It's something we talk about alot on the podcast, where, like
you know back in, like you knowour day when we were in bands
and stuff, like it was very kindof like cutthroat and stuff,
yeah Well now everyone's justlike, so supportive each other
and like that whole.
I think even now you would havebands where it's just like you
(08:03):
got to play the house andthey're like I don't want to,
but I will.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
That's not really an issue I ever have anymore.
I mean, we do do six band billssometimes.
I actually like to throw theeight to ten band bills every
once in a while, just for fun.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
For funsies.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, everybody gets 30 seconds.
Make it count, yeah.
And we, everybody gets 30seconds, make it count, right,
yeah, everyone gets 30 seconds.
If you're not ready, you're notready um yeah and it's most of
the time.
I mean we don't really have anyproblems with that from what I
can tell.
I mean it happens once in awhile, but okay, everybody's
like you said, everyone's sotight-knit, it's like a family,
(08:45):
it's.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
The local scene is really amazing I think
personally so I'm gonna hit youwith something.
Okay, funding isn't an issue.
Book, the location isn't anissue.
What's your dream show to puton?
What's your dream lineup rosteras a promoter, uh, well, we've
got to have Biscuit headline.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Everybody knows my obsession with Limp Bizkit.
He's doing it for the bands.
He's doing it for the music,doing it for the music.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
That joke almost went right over my head.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
They would have to headline.
I would want to put somefriends on there.
Um for sure, you know, rightnow, right now, I think it would
be kublai khan, I'd want to putthem on there solid listen to
them a lot solid pick slaughterto prevail hate breathe, oh man.
(09:42):
Okay, all right.
So Slaughter to PrevailHatebreed, oh man.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Everyone's going to be ready in a beat down mode
like who's ready for hot dogsand chocolate starfish?
It's like Whoa totallydifferent tone.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
It'd be perfect too, because I just went to their
summer show last year and it wasso eclectic with they had hip
hop and Corey Feldman opened it,that's awesome, it'd be perfect
.
I'd want to put a bunch of likefriends bands on there that
like um.
Some new bands that I've beenlistening to a lot lately lately
are um around the area.
(10:14):
This is a threat atlas at holda band.
Evil like you's coming back,okay, stuff like that I've heard
.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I've heard of two of them yeah um I didn't.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I I haven't heard of the last one yeah, that one
didn't ring a bell, they've beenon hiatus for about a year and
a half okay, okay, if you likethem, judged off all the other
bands you named, they'reprobably pretty good, I'll
probably like them.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, it'd be like a peanut butter jelly sandwich
them, so they would fit snug I'mdefinitely not not upset with
the Limp Bizkit pick, I'm notupset with the Kublai Khan, I'm
definitely not upset withSlaughter to Prevail, because
the dude is a monster.
Alex Terrible is crazy, he'sjust he's probably him and the
vocalist of Lorna Shore are inmy opinions.
Not that I'm shitting on anyoneI don't really listen to Lorna
(11:00):
Shore but I will give creditwhere credit's due.
Talent-wise, I think Alex theTerrible and the vocalist from
Lorna Shore I think they'reprobably the most talented
screamer like vocalists in thegame right now.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
The thing with Will Ramos is he looks completely
unfazed.
I watched his live playthroughof the really popular one that
he did, the live one.
It starts with an S, I thinkit's into into the hell, into
the hellfire I think is the oneokay and like dude the whole
time.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
He's just literally looks like me talking, right
yeah, and I'm just like you area monster yeah, I think people
live for that too.
They live for what will does.
But for me, as a prior screamer, I'm just like I.
I am amazed by what he can do,but I don't think everything
that he does in my opinion isnecessary in the songs.
(11:51):
But I know there's people thatjust like that's what they're
there for.
They eat that shit up, alex theterrible.
He is just a monster and heknows exactly where to deliver
and where to punch with it.
And that's that's what I love,but I love them both.
They're both incrediblevocalists.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I remember finding him on a youtube rabbit hole
before slaughter to prevail andbeing like you're possessed
you're possessed, dude yeah, itwas like 2017 or something like
that like maybe even 2015 Idon't, I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
You want to know who made a deal with the devil?
That guy right.
That guy right there nowquestion.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
So all right, we'll stick him with the theme.
You've named some pretty heavybands.
Would you maybe throw somethingpretty soft in there to throw
people for a loop, like somecity in color or something like
that like?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
sure, actually, you know I might, I've been, I've
been listening to a lot of uhyoungblood lately oh, I like
that dude a lot he's.
I see a lot of his tiktoks.
He seems like a real genuinecool guy too so oh yeah, yeah, I
throw him in there too just for, he did a lot of uh.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
he did a good song with uh MGK, With MGK Black Bear
, Bring Me the Horizon.
Even he did a song with them.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah he does a lot of features I noticed.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, I'm going to tell you right now that song
that he did with MGK and TravisBarker.
If that could be Blink-182, 2.0, if they were solid, that was
the band I would listen to everysong they put out.
I thought that was such aperfect pairing of styles,
vocals, everything.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That song is so good in my opinion Hem, black Bear
and Marshmello also did a songtogether.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
It was really good, really really good, I'm not as
big about Black.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Bear.
I understand why people likehim, but it's not my thing I
like some of his songs.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I'm going to sound like a hipster.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
His old stuff was way better.
Just like with every personthat loves him, he was just a
sad, depressed 25-year-old.
Do you even?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
really know them.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
If you don't know, yeah exactly Name two of their
old songs.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Don't wear their t-shirt Be cool, bro.
Yeah, oh, my.
Wear their t-shirt to be cool,bro.
Yeah, oh, my god.
Um, so in what areas have youbeen, like in central
pennsylvania?
Have you been booking aroundlike harrisburg, lancaster,
mechanicsburg, like all over theentire time?
Have you grown into areas orstrayed from areas?
What's the hardest area?
The hardest?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
area yeah, um, let's get central here, central um my
safe horse, banana, centralnature of it all um, I don't
know that it I think it dependson what you're booking as far as
what's harder.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
That makes sense I uh , been.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I mean, I did Harrisburg for a couple of years
, uh, and now I'm pretty, I'mpretty stuck, stuck on love,
drafts and mechanics.
For now I mean it's, I grew upin mechanics, for I live in
Mechanicsburg, so it's really.
You know, there's somethingabout when you have, like one of
your favorite bands like I wastalking about Stabbing Westward
(14:39):
earlier and I actually did endup getting to book them, the
actual band in Harrisburg, andit's just something kind of cool
about having them say, you know, hey, harris, harrisburg on
stage or whatever, and and andnow that I'm in mechanics Berg,
I get, you know, these guys thatcome in and and say thank you
so much, mechanics Berg, and I'mjust thinking, man, that's
(14:59):
fucking, that's bad.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah.
It's like the actual so like ison the map now.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and they're on the back of the
shirts and stuff like that.
So it's cool to seeMechanicsburg.
Yeah, I've done York.
Like I said, it's basicallybeen Harrisburg and
Mechanicsburg for the most part,with kind of like I would say,
a detour to York every once in awhile.
Tourist Inn was a fun venue tobook.
(15:29):
The people there were reallynice.
I really liked them.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, so they kind of like popped up out of nowhere
and then just like reallystarted taking off and like,
next thing I know I kept seeinglike all my friends at Vance
Boots and like, oh yeah, we'replaying at the Tourist Inn.
I was like where did this placecome from?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, I like it, and I saw Gal doing stuff again.
Now it's called the Underground, yeah, so I mean there's other
options, but yeah, I'm spoiled.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Love Drives is so close to my house.
It's a great venue, man.
It's a great venue.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
And they just make it so much easier.
Like every week they'reimproving stuff.
It makes it so much easier tobook it.
It's like people love it.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
And people hit me up about People love it, yeah.
And people hit me up about hey,this is one of the ones we want
to hit on the tour.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
We've heard about it, so it's like a dream venue, I
mean just with all respect, butLove Drive's kind of created
their own cult following whereit's like and again I mean that
with all respect because it's inthe best way possible they kind
of made it in a weird way, tosay it.
(16:32):
they made it fun to support alocal business again, like it
made you feel like you wereactually being part of like a
community or helping createtheir success and everything,
and you definitely see that,like you said, like they're
always improving something,whatever it is, um, and I think
that's awesome yeah, for sure,for sure that's.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
That'll be the one for definitely the future.
I mean, like I said, I did do agreen jelly show at the
underground and that was theonly one I've done down there.
So I said I'm going to givethem a little while to recover
from that one and then I'llapproach them again.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Let them clutch their palate a little bit that's a
bit of a wild one.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I haven't been there since it was the underground.
Last last time I went there wasuh for an early endings reunion
show wow yeah, that was a hotminute ago.
That was still gliftees so yeah, it's I.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
It's weird, it looks the same, doesn't quite have the
same, like gliftees, vibe, andI'm not dogging it.
God, I said dogging it, but uh,I should have just said
shitting on it um but it's toughto do that, it's tough to bring
a vibe from that area you knowyeah but it's still awesome.
(17:42):
I mean, I still felt like homewhen I was there the I guess it
was last halloween that we didthat show, okay, and I mean I
hope they keep doing stuff.
Honestly, I hope they bringmore in and start building.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, that's Absolutely yeah.
Let me know next time you booka show there.
It's close to my house, so I'dlove to pop out there for that I
will.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Maybe it'll be Green Jelly again.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
So I just want to hit some things here.
So you do have some showscoming up here.
If I know correctly, you haveyour 400th show.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
It's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Congratulations.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
The big 400.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Right, so that's what .
The 21st and 22nd of March, yes, perfect, and then Birthday
Massacre 29th April.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yes, where's that at?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I use that sometimesard sometimes, oh
LoveDrafts, oh LoveDrafts.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Just wanted to make sure that way the viewer's now.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah.
So one last question for youhow can people get in contact
with you?
If they want to book throughyou, they want to get you for
anything else, how can they getin contact?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
with you If anyone wants to reach out to have you
book for them.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
The best way is email .
Looking at gmailcom or thewebsite 717entertainmentcom, we
have everything Facebook,Instagram, everything,
717entertainment LLC, who knowsWhatever apps that are out there
?
Just look up 717entertainment.
(19:02):
We're there.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Got it Somewhere.
Absolutely, Dude.
It was awesome sitting down andtalking with you.
Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I appreciate it Is there anything we may be missing
or anything that you wanted toshout out before we wrap it up
here.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
No, I think we covered it all.
I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Absolutely, dude.
We appreciate you.
It was absolutely a pleasuresitting down and talking with
you man.
Thank you guys so much,seriously, thank you, of course.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I'll shake your hand, guys.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Thank you so just give us your backstory, man,
like tell us how this project.
First off, I want to know and Ithink there's a couple other
people that want to know where'dthe name come from?
Like, how did you guys settleon the name we were?
Speaker 5 (19:35):
actually talking on the way here, like that's gonna
be the first question.
You guys are right, yeah um,basically we were banned for
what?
Almost a year before covid,yeah, something like that,
probably a year and that wholetime we couldn't, couldn't
figure it out, couldn't, haven't, couldn't figure out a name, uh
, and then our basis, jesse, histhree-year-old son at the time,
(19:57):
said it and we were like, okaywe'll do that that's awesome
actually yeah so now he, thatkid, gets to see like merch.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
I did that.
Ip I own the IP to be fair, hegot it from an episode of Doc
McStuffins.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Doc McStuffins, I've never even heard of that.
Apparently it's a kid's show.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
I had to look up the episode I found the episode too
and have it marked exactly whereit happens so you guys can
watch it.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Every day I watch it every day are you guys can watch
it every day.
I watch it every day.
Yeah, Are you guys going tothrow that maybe in as a little
clip in one of your songs?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
That's not a bad idea .
It would be funny, like rightbefore a breakdown, like these
two back in the day, yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
The heaviest breakdown ever, just the
heaviest thing Dinosaurs andbears.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
That would be awesome , but yeah, no, no, that's cool
man, because I was definitelywondering.
I was like dude, how doessomeone come up with it?
Because, I'm not gonna lie, wehave some bloopers for our intro
.
I had fun with your guys's name.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Yeah, it's made it seem like a weatherman thousands
are dead in paris.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Dinosaurs, yeah it doesn't really fit.
No, but at all I think I likeit.
Yeah, I think it's perfect.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
It got to the point where we wanted to change it
immediately and then, uh, itjust never happened.
And then we just kept havingmore of a following and it was
like, wow, if we change it now,is it gonna work?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
well, I mean, it's like it's not an easy name to
forget either that's true.
That's a lot of people say thatit's memorable.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah, yeah, exactly yeah I've also noticed as soon
as you go to google, as soon asyou type in dinosaurs and then
in you guys are pretty much thevery first things like that's
really great for like googlesearch algorithm as well, I
think it's really good though,because you guys I mean, it
depends on if anyone you knowI'm sure there's plenty that are
watching right now that do knowyour songs you listen to one
song.
You get very much, so like aday to remember you listen to
another song, you get somejamies elsewhere.
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Listen to another song, you getlike whatever, and I think it's
it's such a like a malleablename.
It's just a three-word namethat really has no it's, it's
not like architects, so it'slike oh, I'm thinking like
strategic, like math complicatedyeah, you're just like
dinosaurs.
In paris it's like, ah, we canbe whatever we want to be
exactly.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
That's pretty much how we play it too.
Yeah, like we don't have, youknow, we don't stick to just one
thing.
Like not every song hasscreamings yeah, has screaming
in it, you know.
And not every song, you know,has to be super heavy.
There's some, like some of theones that we have backed up
right now.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
We haven't even released some of the lightest
stuff we've done that's true,and then some of the stuff
that's coming up is going to bethe heaviest stuff we've done so
yeah, that's awesome, it's nicebecause like you can listen to,
it's like okay, and yeah, nowall this isn't like drop a sharp
, this is all just keeps gettinglower and lower.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
We always tell people I always tell people anyway
that we have something foreveryone.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, I think that's important, you know so my
question for you guys, because Imean, I mean I've played with
you way back in the day, I mean,oh yeah, I mean, dude you, what
was, what was the name of yourband back then?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I already know it vision, my vision, my valor dude
vision.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
My valor was like the goat back then, I think.
I play at the champ so many, somany times they were literally
like august burns reds, likelittle brother, and I mean that
like in the most, like thebiggest comment that you guys
were so good.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Yeah, I mean that's, that's great, but with that
compliment I've ever gotten.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
So I know you know where I'm coming from.
Like back then, when we playedback then I mean it was very
much so like you kind of hadlike your box and you had to be
like the best in your box.
How did you navigate as amusician, like going from that
kind of scene to now?
Speaker 5 (23:36):
where you're just like, yeah, dude, like I'm just
comfortable writing whatever.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
It is that I want to write and we have something for
everyone.
Yeah, I mean, I guess just alot of time.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
It's been a while.
It's been 10 years sincethere's more now, yeah, 13 years
maybe.
So just maturing a little bit,uh getting, and you know I
stepped away from the scene fora few years there too, and then
coming back just took it moreseriously and uh, just wrote my
ass off man that's awesome everyday, especially during covid,
(24:00):
and then what were you gonna doduring covid you?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
might as well.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Take the take the time while you got it covid
happened like right when we weretrying to get this rolling like
we had been, you know,practicing and writing the odd
song yeah, we didn't know closeto a year and then we weren't
taking it seriously, we were wewere in the process of recording
our first ep, which you can nolonger find anywhere yeah, uh
don't even try, don't even,don't even think about it.
(24:25):
I'm gonna find it don't?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
yeah, I'm gonna look now like nick cage and uh, I'm
sure you could probably findlike some deep google yeah, no,
you're cutting.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
You're cutting all this shit out but yeah, that
covid had like a huge impact aswe were in the middle of
recording our what five, sixsong ep and then we just stopped
for months and then finally theguy that was recording us, uh,
he's just like you guys want tolike sneak over yeah, just come
(24:54):
over and finish these guitartracks like yeah, okay, I'm not
gonna get like arrested, rightis this a trap?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
are you?
Am I gonna get arrested when Iget there sneaking?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
into, like shippensburg, to finish
recording tracks dude, that'sawesome so to kind of follow up
on your question though, thoughwith the creative difference you
know from you know, like youwere saying, you had to box in
back, then you had to find yourbox and be the best in it Would
you say that there's been kindof like a shift in the music
scene now where you have thatmore creative freedom?
Speaker 5 (25:24):
I think so.
I think people care less aboutthat.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, you know as long as it's good, I would agree
with that People like it more.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Before it was, it looked the part, sounded the
part you know, or it wasn'tgoing to work.
Back in our old scene.
It's like you're not wearingskinny jeans and you're not
wearing vans.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
You mean your deep V, doesn't go down to your solar
plexus.
Is it even a deep V bro?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I miss the DP, though I do miss the DP.
It was a vibe.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Even I did that and I had no business doing that.
I did the skinny jeans, I didthe V.
Actually, I'm still dressedkind of the same as back then
the old beanie with the deepjeans.
Our old bands used to playtogether all the time At the
Champ.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
And we just played the Champ recently.
We just played the champ, uh,we just played, yeah, the champ.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Uh, start, come back start up the comeback show.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
That's awesome how was it over there?
I haven't got a chance to checkit out, yeah, yeah that's
awesome.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
It was a good time, it's not the building, obviously
, yeah which was like.
You know that was the mainaesthetic of it.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, it was dirty grimy.
Everyone's here to go to a show.
Yeah, throw down somethingmight you don't use the Like.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
the fact that we all went to the Champ and used the
bathroom is probably why we allgot through COVID.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Yeah, it was like a nice bathroom.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
So yeah, because the new place it's just, it's like
in the school.
One of the school buildingsover there and yeah, it's super
clean and nice that's awesomeyeah very nice turnout for that,
that's good.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
So with you guys playing in the scene and you
have been.
I'm sorry I can't speak to yourexperience.
I don't know how long you'vebeen in the scene, I know
personally Roughly as long as hehas.
Okay, so perfect With you guysbeing in the scene as long.
You guys obviously have someboots to the ground, ears to the
ground.
You've seen how One thing thatwe really like to ask people is
because we like to think there'sobviously something very
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special about the centralPennsylvania music scene
compared to.
I mean, you got LA, obviously,you've got Nashville, you've got
New York, sure, but central PA,man, you got Breaking Ben,
Taylor Swift, all these bands.
What do you guys think makesthis scene so special as the
people, as the players still inthe scene right now?
Speaker 6 (27:27):
That was a good question.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Yeah, because you would think population-wise it's
not even close to those otherareas.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Not at all how are we turning out?
I feel like we're all kind ofsandwiched in here between
mountains and Something in theair.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
There's something in the air.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
There's something going on Ding-a-ling-ding-ding,
it's just like yeah, before,like when we were most of the
bands around like you couldsound like complete shit and
still like generate a followingand it didn't matter back then
there's nobody care becauseyou're young, stupid, immature.
Yeah, it wasn't really aboutthat, it wasn't about the end
that.
But now, like people, the, thescene has matured to a point
(28:04):
where everybody's like okay, Iknow what's good and what sounds
good and who makes good stuff Ido think it's, you know, even
though those vision, my valorrochelle rochelle times were fun
, but I don't think it's beenbetter than it is now ever.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Yeah makes sense just the quality you know, just like
a healthy community yeah,everybody's a little older too,
seems a little older.
You know, there's not a lot ofnothing against teenagers and
bands and shit like that theygotta do it yeah 100.
Uh, that was all it was before,and now we're like fucking old.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I definitely had much more of that sense of like.
It was more like kind of likebackhanded cutthroat-y back then
You're like oh yeah, dude, goodset, good set.
And then you're like bro, wehave to have a heavier breakdown
than this 100 now.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Like the musicians are like dude, like seriously
like good set man, and likepeople are like genuinely like
uplifting, they're likegenuinely trying to support each
other.
Yeah, and I think that's reallyawesome it is, and the mixture
of bands is it's more diverse.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Yeah, back then it was just like you were metalcore
or you were nothing.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah and now it's just like you know, like our
best friends just still inhearst lynn.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Her shout out to those guys like they're our best
friends.
Just still in hearst lynnhearst, shout out to those guys
like they're our best bandfriends.
Like, uh, completely polaropposite, polar opposite, uh,
music than ours.
But like we love any chance weget to play a show with them.
We have one coming up indecember.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah, last one for the year, we'll be with them I
think we're doing uh, in aprilwe're gonna try, oh yeah,
that'll be more relevant to whenthis comes out.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Uh, we're trying to put together like a new england
tour.
I do believe oh, that'll besweet uh maybe like a week up,
up and down we haven't been pastnew york yet, so yeah, no,
going up north has proved to bea lot more challenging,
especially new york.
Half the shows we book up thereget canceled but, we've been
down south more times than Icount and I feel like we've
(29:54):
saturated that scene pretty well.
Now it's time to go north andwest how far south have you guys
gone?
north carolina oh wow, that'spretty good, we'd still like to
get down to florida too, butbecause I mean, you know, take
over where I date or rememberkind of left down there whatever
, whatever they've been doing noshade to a date or remember.
They're still my favorite.
Yeah, the goats.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah, he's like he's like I'm going down to fort
lauderdale and be like this isour town.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
I'm gonna go to.
You hated this town.
I love this town that's awesomeso any other.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
So with the um new england tour and everything, how
many stops are you trying to do?
Speaker 5 (30:28):
it's still early stages okay I think we only have
like two or three right nowthat are yeah, they're, they're
closing.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
I don't want some more dates, yeah getting up into
boston and stuff like that,hopefully, yeah, hopefully, that
materializes and then we'regonna.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
It's like 10 days, two weeks.
Yeah, it'd be nice if it was atleast a week or more, instead
of we've.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
We've traditionally done like four or five day runs
in the past and we'd like tostart going out a little longer.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Boston's got a pretty nice music scene up there too.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
That's what I've heard.
I think you guys would havesome great success.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Oh yeah, no questions asked where was like, where is
like your guys ideal spot you'dwant to go play at?
Speaker 6 (31:01):
I mean I'd love, like I said, I'd love to get down to
florida.
Yeah, I'd like to definitely goout, out west, for sure get
down to nashville.
I've heard good things,surprisingly for our type of
music in nashville you guysshould try and book the dome the
dome.
I'm sure.
I'm sure it'd be super easy tosell that out.
Yeah, for sure, that should beno problem.
No problem, just a phone call,man.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Phone call as long as you have enough time in advance
, you should be fine man, butyou guys do still have to sell
tickets.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Yeah, it is still pay to play.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
It's like a 3 000 ticket minimum hey, with the
right uh, media and marketing,you can do anything.
These days.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
If you got enough money to pump into it, you'll,
you'll go far.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah, it's true so moving forward with the band, I
mean, you guys have we talkedabout.
You have kind of a coupledifferent sounds, uh, and that's
awesome.
You guys have that and youdon't.
It sounds like you probablydon't really want to pigeonhole
yourself.
You want to be able to havethis creative freedom.
Do you have any other plans andnew, new sounds or anything
that you might be doing in thefuture?
Speaker 5 (31:58):
yeah, I mean it's weird.
I don't think my voice reallycaters properly to like strict
metalcore stuff.
You know what?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I mean you do.
You do have some more soul liker&b yeah like vibes to your, to
your vocals, which I love, bythe way well thanks some of the
best metalcore vocalists thesame way too.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
You know, that's true , yeah but it's yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
I guess it's just not as cookie cutter as I think it
should be honestly.
But to make it to make thatsound work anyway.
It's um all over the place, butwe're getting pretty heavy.
These next batch of songs,probably for the next year, are
going to be pretty heavy, Moreheavy than not.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Yeah, I mean we're hoping to have if the timeline
works, before the end of theyear we'll have another single
out, another music video, andthat just screams like 2010's
Metalcore.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Oh, thank God, yes, dude, that just got me so
excited.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Another time's passed , we can bring it back.
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Next year, look forward to a few more heavy
releases.
We worked on a song recently,that's more almost new metal.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Yeah, okay, very new, metal-esque and with no singing
, no cleans.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
No, cleans at all.
What?
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Which I haven't done before.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Yeah, so that was a change, oh dude that's awesome,
yeah and then, uh, we'll have acover, probably out next year
too okay, disney cover, oh hellyeah.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
So.
So let me ask you how did fueldoing?
Speaker 5 (33:23):
just screams it's good it has to be.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
It's only like two minutes, so that's, that's my
cap dude, it kicks your ass, man, it does, it kicks you out, do
both oh, thanks man.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
It's like our second sucks yeah it's like you make
sure you respect people likejake lures so much you're just
like how do you?
Speaker 5 (33:40):
guys go up and put on a two hour long show too, and
he's just yeah, yeah, I know,you know I could do it for a
while, but then singing's done.
Yeah, I'll be honest, that'swhen I knew like I was done.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
We tried doing a tour .
It was a quick little weekendtour and I was just like we did
it.
It was only like four days orwhatever.
But they were back to back andI just realized my voice.
I was like dude, even though Iknow I'm doing it right.
Bottom line is, unless you havelike someone paying you for
your vocal coaches and you havelike the steaming and like all
of the therapies you can do, ifyou don't have that, you have a
time limit for how long you cando that and I realized I had hit
(34:13):
my time limit.
I was like if we get any biggerthan this, and the label's like
we want to send you on asix-month tour.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
I'm like we're gonna go bankrupt because we're gonna
cancel work out like any othermuscle man it it yeah, it was,
it was getting rough, but and Idon't do it right.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
There's no way no, no , there's no way.
I hear all these other guys.
I'm like shit, I'm not doing itlike that?
No, they're all doing it wrong,maybe I'm the only, you're the
only one you figured it out.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
You got the golden rule, I mean, I don't know.
I feel like there's like awrong way to do it, but there's
also like a wrong way for youand a right way for you as well
I agree with that you have guyslike like.
Look at like ollie sykes anddanny warschnapp both blew out
their vocal cords but both arevastly different vocals yeah um
I do like the originality of itwhen it's I guess, done wrong.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, but uh I 100, know what you mean and I I agree
.
I think wrong, honestlyaudio-wise sounds better, in my
opinion.
But so if you guys, ifLindhurst is your best band
friends or whatever and we'vebeen talking about this you've
got some Day to Remember, vibesand everything.
All I thought of was when Dayto Remember had Devil Wears
(35:29):
Prada feature.
So could we maybe look at likea crossover we've discussed it
I'm just.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
Ed actually made a mash-up of.
He put his vocals on our songand, uh, my vocals on theirs
yeah, what songs was it?
It was sorry for the way I amthere's and pick a lane better
than the original songs.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Wait what you put you put lyrics down on.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Sorry for the way I am yeah, and then he just like
switched the vocals out.
Yeah, he switched our becauseit's like the same, okay, the
same takes from our the originalsongs just switched into
different songs.
I guess is it.
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
I think it's pick a lane and yeah, they got to be
close, I guess yeah I mean theydo play in drop c.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
I think you tuned it down.
Oh, that's true, so it could beclose.
It sounds great.
It sounds better than it'spretty.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Cool is awesome, like you guys I think, I truly think
and this is no disrespect toany other bands that are out
there right now but the waythey're marketing, like their
photos, their, their themes,their content, like, uh, like
stability, their engagementtheir engagement is insane, I
think they're gonna be like ifthere's going to be a pop punk
band that breaks out right now.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
For us it's going to be Lynn Hurst, no questions
asked, absolutely, and I thinkthey deserve it.
They do.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Yeah, I listen to at least one Lynn Hurst song a day.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
If not more Really.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Every day I got to at least listen to some Lynn Hurst
.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
I'm sick of it.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
He's like actually I just hate them now.
It's just the worst.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
This is supposed to be about us.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
Yeah, why are we talking about Lynn Hurst?
You're right, I'm sorry, guys.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I'll be sure to have Lynn Hurst write you guys a
check then, to compensate youfor your time on here, we're
going to need some time, yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Sorry, Ed, Sorry Kevin.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Sorry, Mark.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Wait, wait, wait.
Also the oldest, I believe.
Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I do believe that is correct.
Man has aged like fine wine.
He has, he is, he is chef'scake me over here.
I've aged like milk.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I'm just like mike I feel you it's like 10 years
older than me.
It looks like 10 years younger.
Yeah it's.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
It's annoying, yeah but, guys, thank you so much for
taking the time to come out andtalk to us any other last
minute shout outs.
You want to.
You want to give to the fansAnyone that you know might be
curious about some upcomingthings?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Definitely not any more Lindhurst talk.
No, that's enough.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, but yeah I just realized you're wearing a
Lindhurst hat too.
I am.
I didn't even notice that.
God damn it.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
No we got it.
Can we reshoot this whole thing?
Yeah, absolutely fine.
We'll.
Just, it'll be dynamic, it'llbe uh, yeah, but you know we're
going through transitional,transitional phases, two new
members, two new members, uh,all new, you know our rhythm
section is new yeah, new drums,new bass, dope so I'm super
(38:08):
excited.
They're both super tight bunchofunch of new songs Soon as uh
soon, as they're up to speedwith the old ones.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
We're going to be?
Yeah, it's been a lot of workand for some people who might
not be aware of how to do this,where can they find your music?
Everywhere.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Spotify, every streaming service that exists, I
do believe.
Yeah, that's true, Deezer.
I've never even heard of it butwe have it on there.
Facebook, Instagram.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
Amazon Music, YouTube Music, everything.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
So anywhere you're listening to this podcast, you
can probably find it.
You can find it 100%.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Awesome.
Well, thank you so much, guys.
Man, I really appreciate youguys taking the time to come out
and talk to us tonight.
Yeah, it was so nice to finallymeet you guys.
You too, yep, thanks, guys.
All right, guys, that aboutdoes it for this week.
As always, we want to thank ourviewers and our fans and our
guests Until next time, guys.
See you then.
Outro Music.
Welcome to the Central Pennsylvania Music
Podcast Tonight Nick Myers andDinosaurs in Paris.
This episode is sponsored byMembers, First and now your
hosts, Daniel Kime and AlanMcCutcheon.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hello and welcome to the Central Pennsylvania Music
Podcast.
I'm your host, daniel, and I'myour co-host, alan, coming up.
We have Nick.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Myers and dinosaurs in Paris.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We are here with Nick Myers of 717 Entertainment.
Nick, thank you so much forcoming out and joining us on the
show tonight.
Thank you, guys, so much forhaving me.
Of course, of course, man,we're really excited to have you
here.
You've been doing music in thearea for quite some time now, I
guess booking music in the areahere for quite some time now.
Man, take us through yourjourney.
Where did this all start?
Let's start at the beginning.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
We'll so I really enjoyed going to concerts, since
I was probably I don't know Idon't really want to show my age
too much, but early 90s we'llsay, okay, I don't want to age
me too much, and generally itwas the more you know like U2,
stuff like that.
And then I started going tosome local shows.
I actually don't rememberspecifically why I started going
(01:22):
to local shows, because they'reawesome, yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Well.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I mean they are awesome.
Well, actually, you know what Ido?
Know why?
Because a former band member ofmine who had moved was back in
town.
He was in another band, so wewent out to see him and we
thought, wow, this is actuallypretty cool.
It was over at Wanda's.
Oh wow, I haven't heard thatname in forever.
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Oh wow, I haven't heard that name in forever yeah,
it was at Wanda's.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
What is Wanda's?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
now G-Man.
No, Wanda's is a.
Well, it was an empty parkinglot for a while.
Now they're turning it into aBJ's, unfortunately.
Well, not unfortunately, but itwas a nice venue for music.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Oh my God, it was a hardware bar.
Yeah, it was a hardware bar.
It was attached to the hotel.
Yes, mulligans, not Mulligans,it was like an Irish name before
it closed.
There were so many names.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Yeah, it went through a lot of different owners, I
believe.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, whatever they were, the Carlisle Pike, like
right where it meets 581.
Yep.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Right, but back in the black and white days it was
called Wanda's when I went thereand so we enjoyed that.
So I started going to morelocal shows.
I started writing about theshows just little reviews and
whatnot.
And I'm sort of a weirdo aboutset lists and stuff, so I always
try to get set lists and writethem down and include those in
(02:33):
my reviews and whatnot.
So I started writing for twodifferent sites.
One was called the Lab and onewas called Harrisburg Online and
they had this message board.
It called a message board thatsomeone had brought the idea up
about a local award show andnobody really wanted to take it
on.
I thought that's a cool idea.
(02:55):
Like that'd be really cool.
So I uh, this was back in themyspace days, so originally I
didn't think I was able to dolike a show a show.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Because I was like man, I don't have the capital to
do like a show or whateverbecause I had no idea what I was
doing and I thought, well, youknow, what would be kind of cool
is if we just did like, we hadlike categories, then we did
awards and we could have likelocal band members, celebrities,
(03:27):
radio people, whatever hand outor not hand out, but just like
announce the awards on theirMySpace page at a certain time,
like hey, nine o'clock so-and-sois going to announce this album
or whatever.
And then I talked to a buddy ofmine named Mitch Taylor or not
Mitch, it was his brother, kylefrom Julian Fist and he said,
you know, it wouldn't cost thatmuch money to do a show.
(03:47):
And he had mentioned aboutGalifties over in New Cumberland
, and I said really.
And he said, yeah, I mean, it'san award show.
You could, you know, I thinkyou actually might make money
doing it.
And I'm like really.
So I was introduced to a guynamed Matt over at Califties who
was the owner at the time, andI did the award show.
(04:11):
It was a mass cluster of about13 bands in about three hours.
I thought it would be cool todo an actual award show where
you had bands do two songs, thenan actual award show where you
had bands do like two songs,then an award two songs and it
was.
It was a mess, it was a truemess, but for some reason I
(04:32):
loved it.
Did you tried it?
I did and I started your mess itwas my mess and I started big
so I thought, well, what thehell, let's try another show.
So we did a show, the dragonfly.
Then I just kind of fell inlove with glyftes and from there
on it just kind of grew, gotbigger.
I'd bring in bands fromBaltimore, a couple from New
York, jersey, from Scranton.
(04:54):
Then we started doing somenationals here and there.
I think one of the first oneswas the Dreaming.
It was a side project with, uh,christopher hall, the stabbing
westward singer.
Okay, so that really got megoing too, because I was a huge
stabbing westward fan.
So to meet him and to book him.
(05:15):
It wasn't the stabbing westward, but still to book him was
pretty cool oh my god, yeah soeverything just kind of grew,
and that's kind of where we arenow.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Wow, you definitely went through a journey with that
man, so I've got to ask becauseI'm sure there's any other
viewers out here that are tryingto do the same thing what would
you say was probably thehardest thing for you to learn
on your own, since youessentially did this from
scratch?
What's the biggest lesson youlearned through doing this?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Oh man, I don't even remember those days.
My memory is a shot like we'retalking off camera.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Can't even remember what I ate for lunch three days
ago, exactly, exactly, yeah or Idon't remember how I got here.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Um, I would say probably the hardest thing was
um getting I don't knoweverything.
I mean, I don't want to soundlike cocky, but it just
everything was.
It came kind of natural,honestly.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
There's a lot of issues you have throughout.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Like logistically there's logistic issues.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
But as far as just starting up it, I don't know it
was just kind of like one ofthose things you're just meant
to do.
I guess you know once you startonce you get into it, you know
you got issues with bands.
I mean, for example, even thefirst show I did, the, the, that
award show I did, was, um, youknow, we had raise sponsor the
(06:41):
show, so, so we had, you know,with with 13 bands and, um, you
know, five minutes and six orseven minute changeovers, you
kind of had to go with the flow,so everybody used the same
equipment and that kind of thing.
And you'll have people that arenot going to want to do that.
And one example of that showthere was a band I won't even
mention the name, I don't eventhink they're around anymore,
(07:02):
but they refused and uh, so Iended up, just we kind of came
to agreement where I told themif they don't want to use that
kit, then they don't have toplay.
They kind of scoffed at me andwe basically I told the sound
guy I said, you know, we justgained about eight minutes of
time because they're not playingnow.
So it was those little things,um, and that's not as as bad now
(07:28):
when we have the longerchangeovers and bands want to
use their own equipment andstuff.
I'm not, I don't want to shiton that, because yeah, a lot of
bands like to do that and that'stotally cool.
But, um, you know, there's, likeI said, there is or like you
said there is logistical issueswith stuff like that.
So yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well, I think like the music scene is kind of grown
a lot too.
It's something we talk about alot on the podcast, where, like
you know back in, like you knowour day when we were in bands
and stuff, like it was very kindof like cutthroat and stuff,
yeah Well now everyone's justlike, so supportive each other
and like that whole.
I think even now you would havebands where it's just like you
(08:03):
got to play the house andthey're like I don't want to,
but I will.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
That's not really an issue I ever have anymore.
I mean, we do do six band billssometimes.
I actually like to throw theeight to ten band bills every
once in a while, just for fun.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
For funsies.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, everybody gets 30 seconds.
Make it count, yeah.
And we, everybody gets 30seconds, make it count, right,
yeah, everyone gets 30 seconds.
If you're not ready, you're notready um yeah and it's most of
the time.
I mean we don't really have anyproblems with that from what I
can tell.
I mean it happens once in awhile, but okay, everybody's
like you said, everyone's sotight-knit, it's like a family,
(08:45):
it's.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
The local scene is really amazing I think
personally so I'm gonna hit youwith something.
Okay, funding isn't an issue.
Book, the location isn't anissue.
What's your dream show to puton?
What's your dream lineup rosteras a promoter, uh, well, we've
got to have Biscuit headline.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Everybody knows my obsession with Limp Bizkit.
He's doing it for the bands.
He's doing it for the music,doing it for the music.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
That joke almost went right over my head.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
They would have to headline.
I would want to put somefriends on there.
Um for sure, you know, rightnow, right now, I think it would
be kublai khan, I'd want to putthem on there solid listen to
them a lot solid pick slaughterto prevail hate breathe, oh man.
(09:42):
Okay, all right.
So Slaughter to PrevailHatebreed, oh man.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Everyone's going to be ready in a beat down mode
like who's ready for hot dogsand chocolate starfish?
It's like Whoa totallydifferent tone.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
It'd be perfect too, because I just went to their
summer show last year and it wasso eclectic with they had hip
hop and Corey Feldman opened it,that's awesome, it'd be perfect
.
I'd want to put a bunch of likefriends bands on there that
like um.
Some new bands that I've beenlistening to a lot lately lately
are um around the area.
(10:14):
This is a threat atlas at holda band.
Evil like you's coming back,okay, stuff like that I've heard
.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I've heard of two of them yeah um I didn't.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I I haven't heard of the last one yeah, that one
didn't ring a bell, they've beenon hiatus for about a year and
a half okay, okay, if you likethem, judged off all the other
bands you named, they'reprobably pretty good, I'll
probably like them.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, it'd be like a peanut butter jelly sandwich
them, so they would fit snug I'mdefinitely not not upset with
the Limp Bizkit pick, I'm notupset with the Kublai Khan, I'm
definitely not upset withSlaughter to Prevail, because
the dude is a monster.
Alex Terrible is crazy, he'sjust he's probably him and the
vocalist of Lorna Shore are inmy opinions.
Not that I'm shitting on anyoneI don't really listen to Lorna
(11:00):
Shore but I will give creditwhere credit's due.
Talent-wise, I think Alex theTerrible and the vocalist from
Lorna Shore I think they'reprobably the most talented
screamer like vocalists in thegame right now.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
The thing with Will Ramos is he looks completely
unfazed.
I watched his live playthroughof the really popular one that
he did, the live one.
It starts with an S, I thinkit's into into the hell, into
the hellfire I think is the oneokay and like dude the whole
time.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
He's just literally looks like me talking, right
yeah, and I'm just like you area monster yeah, I think people
live for that too.
They live for what will does.
But for me, as a prior screamer, I'm just like I.
I am amazed by what he can do,but I don't think everything
that he does in my opinion isnecessary in the songs.
(11:51):
But I know there's people thatjust like that's what they're
there for.
They eat that shit up, alex theterrible.
He is just a monster and heknows exactly where to deliver
and where to punch with it.
And that's that's what I love,but I love them both.
They're both incrediblevocalists.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I remember finding him on a youtube rabbit hole
before slaughter to prevail andbeing like you're possessed
you're possessed, dude yeah, itwas like 2017 or something like
that like maybe even 2015 Idon't, I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
You want to know who made a deal with the devil?
That guy right.
That guy right there nowquestion.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
So all right, we'll stick him with the theme.
You've named some pretty heavybands.
Would you maybe throw somethingpretty soft in there to throw
people for a loop, like somecity in color or something like
that like?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
sure, actually, you know I might, I've been, I've
been listening to a lot of uhyoungblood lately oh, I like
that dude a lot he's.
I see a lot of his tiktoks.
He seems like a real genuinecool guy too so oh yeah, yeah, I
throw him in there too just for, he did a lot of uh.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
he did a good song with uh MGK, With MGK Black Bear
, Bring Me the Horizon.
Even he did a song with them.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah he does a lot of features I noticed.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, I'm going to tell you right now that song
that he did with MGK and TravisBarker.
If that could be Blink-182, 2.0, if they were solid, that was
the band I would listen to everysong they put out.
I thought that was such aperfect pairing of styles,
vocals, everything.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That song is so good in my opinion Hem, black Bear
and Marshmello also did a songtogether.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
It was really good, really really good, I'm not as
big about Black.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Bear.
I understand why people likehim, but it's not my thing I
like some of his songs.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I'm going to sound like a hipster.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
His old stuff was way better.
Just like with every personthat loves him, he was just a
sad, depressed 25-year-old.
Do you even?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
really know them.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
If you don't know, yeah exactly Name two of their
old songs.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Don't wear their t-shirt Be cool, bro.
Yeah, oh, my.
Wear their t-shirt to be cool,bro.
Yeah, oh, my god.
Um, so in what areas have youbeen, like in central
pennsylvania?
Have you been booking aroundlike harrisburg, lancaster,
mechanicsburg, like all over theentire time?
Have you grown into areas orstrayed from areas?
What's the hardest area?
The hardest?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
area yeah, um, let's get central here, central um my
safe horse, banana, centralnature of it all um, I don't
know that it I think it dependson what you're booking as far as
what's harder.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
That makes sense I uh , been.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I mean, I did Harrisburg for a couple of years
, uh, and now I'm pretty, I'mpretty stuck, stuck on love,
drafts and mechanics.
For now I mean it's, I grew upin mechanics, for I live in
Mechanicsburg, so it's really.
You know, there's somethingabout when you have, like one of
your favorite bands like I wastalking about Stabbing Westward
(14:39):
earlier and I actually did endup getting to book them, the
actual band in Harrisburg, andit's just something kind of cool
about having them say, you know, hey, harris, harrisburg on
stage or whatever, and and andnow that I'm in mechanics Berg,
I get, you know, these guys thatcome in and and say thank you
so much, mechanics Berg, and I'mjust thinking, man, that's
(14:59):
fucking, that's bad.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah.
It's like the actual so like ison the map now.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and they're on the back of the
shirts and stuff like that.
So it's cool to seeMechanicsburg.
Yeah, I've done York.
Like I said, it's basicallybeen Harrisburg and
Mechanicsburg for the most part,with kind of like I would say,
a detour to York every once in awhile.
Tourist Inn was a fun venue tobook.
(15:29):
The people there were reallynice.
I really liked them.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, so they kind of like popped up out of nowhere
and then just like reallystarted taking off and like,
next thing I know I kept seeinglike all my friends at Vance
Boots and like, oh yeah, we'replaying at the Tourist Inn.
I was like where did this placecome from?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, I like it, and I saw Gal doing stuff again.
Now it's called the Underground, yeah, so I mean there's other
options, but yeah, I'm spoiled.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Love Drives is so close to my house.
It's a great venue, man.
It's a great venue.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
And they just make it so much easier.
Like every week they'reimproving stuff.
It makes it so much easier tobook it.
It's like people love it.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
And people hit me up about People love it, yeah.
And people hit me up about hey,this is one of the ones we want
to hit on the tour.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
We've heard about it, so it's like a dream venue, I
mean just with all respect, butLove Drive's kind of created
their own cult following whereit's like and again I mean that
with all respect because it's inthe best way possible they kind
of made it in a weird way, tosay it.
(16:32):
they made it fun to support alocal business again, like it
made you feel like you wereactually being part of like a
community or helping createtheir success and everything,
and you definitely see that,like you said, like they're
always improving something,whatever it is, um, and I think
that's awesome yeah, for sure,for sure that's.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
That'll be the one for definitely the future.
I mean, like I said, I did do agreen jelly show at the
underground and that was theonly one I've done down there.
So I said I'm going to givethem a little while to recover
from that one and then I'llapproach them again.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Let them clutch their palate a little bit that's a
bit of a wild one.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I haven't been there since it was the underground.
Last last time I went there wasuh for an early endings reunion
show wow yeah, that was a hotminute ago.
That was still gliftees so yeah, it's I.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
It's weird, it looks the same, doesn't quite have the
same, like gliftees, vibe, andI'm not dogging it.
God, I said dogging it, but uh,I should have just said
shitting on it um but it's toughto do that, it's tough to bring
a vibe from that area you knowyeah but it's still awesome.
(17:42):
I mean, I still felt like homewhen I was there the I guess it
was last halloween that we didthat show, okay, and I mean I
hope they keep doing stuff.
Honestly, I hope they bringmore in and start building.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, that's Absolutely yeah.
Let me know next time you booka show there.
It's close to my house, so I'dlove to pop out there for that I
will.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Maybe it'll be Green Jelly again.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
So I just want to hit some things here.
So you do have some showscoming up here.
If I know correctly, you haveyour 400th show.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
It's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Congratulations.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
The big 400.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Right, so that's what .
The 21st and 22nd of March, yes, perfect, and then Birthday
Massacre 29th April.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yes, where's that at?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I use that sometimesard sometimes, oh
LoveDrafts, oh LoveDrafts.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Just wanted to make sure that way the viewer's now.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah.
So one last question for youhow can people get in contact
with you?
If they want to book throughyou, they want to get you for
anything else, how can they getin contact?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
with you If anyone wants to reach out to have you
book for them.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
The best way is email .
Looking at gmailcom or thewebsite 717entertainmentcom, we
have everything Facebook,Instagram, everything,
717entertainment LLC, who knowsWhatever apps that are out there
?
Just look up 717entertainment.
(19:02):
We're there.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Got it Somewhere.
Absolutely, Dude.
It was awesome sitting down andtalking with you.
Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I appreciate it Is there anything we may be missing
or anything that you wanted toshout out before we wrap it up
here.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
No, I think we covered it all.
I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Absolutely, dude.
We appreciate you.
It was absolutely a pleasuresitting down and talking with
you man.
Thank you guys so much,seriously, thank you, of course.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I'll shake your hand, guys.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Thank you so just give us your backstory, man,
like tell us how this project.
First off, I want to know and Ithink there's a couple other
people that want to know where'dthe name come from?
Like, how did you guys settleon the name we were?
Speaker 5 (19:35):
actually talking on the way here, like that's gonna
be the first question.
You guys are right, yeah um,basically we were banned for
what?
Almost a year before covid,yeah, something like that,
probably a year and that wholetime we couldn't, couldn't
figure it out, couldn't, haven't, couldn't figure out a name, uh
, and then our basis, jesse, histhree-year-old son at the time,
(19:57):
said it and we were like, okaywe'll do that that's awesome
actually yeah so now he, thatkid, gets to see like merch.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
I did that.
Ip I own the IP to be fair, hegot it from an episode of Doc
McStuffins.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Doc McStuffins, I've never even heard of that.
Apparently it's a kid's show.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
I had to look up the episode I found the episode too
and have it marked exactly whereit happens so you guys can
watch it.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Every day I watch it every day are you guys can watch
it every day.
I watch it every day.
Yeah, Are you guys going tothrow that maybe in as a little
clip in one of your songs?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
That's not a bad idea .
It would be funny, like rightbefore a breakdown, like these
two back in the day, yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
The heaviest breakdown ever, just the
heaviest thing Dinosaurs andbears.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
That would be awesome , but yeah, no, no, that's cool
man, because I was definitelywondering.
I was like dude, how doessomeone come up with it?
Because, I'm not gonna lie, wehave some bloopers for our intro
.
I had fun with your guys's name.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Yeah, it's made it seem like a weatherman thousands
are dead in paris.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Dinosaurs, yeah it doesn't really fit.
No, but at all I think I likeit.
Yeah, I think it's perfect.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
It got to the point where we wanted to change it
immediately and then, uh, itjust never happened.
And then we just kept havingmore of a following and it was
like, wow, if we change it now,is it gonna work?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
well, I mean, it's like it's not an easy name to
forget either that's true.
That's a lot of people say thatit's memorable.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah, yeah, exactly yeah I've also noticed as soon
as you go to google, as soon asyou type in dinosaurs and then
in you guys are pretty much thevery first things like that's
really great for like googlesearch algorithm as well, I
think it's really good though,because you guys I mean, it
depends on if anyone you knowI'm sure there's plenty that are
watching right now that do knowyour songs you listen to one
song.
You get very much, so like aday to remember you listen to
another song, you get somejamies elsewhere.
(21:48):
Listen to another song, you getlike whatever, and I think it's
it's such a like a malleablename.
It's just a three-word namethat really has no it's, it's
not like architects, so it'slike oh, I'm thinking like
strategic, like math complicatedyeah, you're just like
dinosaurs.
In paris it's like, ah, we canbe whatever we want to be
exactly.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
That's pretty much how we play it too.
Yeah, like we don't have, youknow, we don't stick to just one
thing.
Like not every song hasscreamings yeah, has screaming
in it, you know.
And not every song, you know,has to be super heavy.
There's some, like some of theones that we have backed up
right now.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
We haven't even released some of the lightest
stuff we've done that's true,and then some of the stuff
that's coming up is going to bethe heaviest stuff we've done so
yeah, that's awesome, it's nicebecause like you can listen to,
it's like okay, and yeah, nowall this isn't like drop a sharp
, this is all just keeps gettinglower and lower.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
We always tell people I always tell people anyway
that we have something foreveryone.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, I think that's important, you know so my
question for you guys, because Imean, I mean I've played with
you way back in the day, I mean,oh yeah, I mean, dude you, what
was, what was the name of yourband back then?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I already know it vision, my vision, my valor dude
vision.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
My valor was like the goat back then, I think.
I play at the champ so many, somany times they were literally
like august burns reds, likelittle brother, and I mean that
like in the most, like thebiggest comment that you guys
were so good.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Yeah, I mean that's, that's great, but with that
compliment I've ever gotten.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
So I know you know where I'm coming from.
Like back then, when we playedback then I mean it was very
much so like you kind of hadlike your box and you had to be
like the best in your box.
How did you navigate as amusician, like going from that
kind of scene to now?
Speaker 5 (23:36):
where you're just like, yeah, dude, like I'm just
comfortable writing whatever.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
It is that I want to write and we have something for
everyone.
Yeah, I mean, I guess just alot of time.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
It's been a while.
It's been 10 years sincethere's more now, yeah, 13 years
maybe.
So just maturing a little bit,uh getting, and you know I
stepped away from the scene fora few years there too, and then
coming back just took it moreseriously and uh, just wrote my
ass off man that's awesome everyday, especially during covid,
(24:00):
and then what were you gonna doduring covid you?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
might as well.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Take the take the time while you got it covid
happened like right when we weretrying to get this rolling like
we had been, you know,practicing and writing the odd
song yeah, we didn't know closeto a year and then we weren't
taking it seriously, we were wewere in the process of recording
our first ep, which you can nolonger find anywhere yeah, uh
don't even try, don't even,don't even think about it.
(24:25):
I'm gonna find it don't?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
yeah, I'm gonna look now like nick cage and uh, I'm
sure you could probably findlike some deep google yeah, no,
you're cutting.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
You're cutting all this shit out but yeah, that
covid had like a huge impact aswe were in the middle of
recording our what five, sixsong ep and then we just stopped
for months and then finally theguy that was recording us, uh,
he's just like you guys want tolike sneak over yeah, just come
(24:54):
over and finish these guitartracks like yeah, okay, I'm not
gonna get like arrested, rightis this a trap?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
are you?
Am I gonna get arrested when Iget there sneaking?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
into, like shippensburg, to finish
recording tracks dude, that'sawesome so to kind of follow up
on your question though, thoughwith the creative difference you
know from you know, like youwere saying, you had to box in
back, then you had to find yourbox and be the best in it Would
you say that there's been kindof like a shift in the music
scene now where you have thatmore creative freedom?
Speaker 5 (25:24):
I think so.
I think people care less aboutthat.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, you know as long as it's good, I would agree
with that People like it more.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Before it was, it looked the part, sounded the
part you know, or it wasn'tgoing to work.
Back in our old scene.
It's like you're not wearingskinny jeans and you're not
wearing vans.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
You mean your deep V, doesn't go down to your solar
plexus.
Is it even a deep V bro?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I miss the DP, though I do miss the DP.
It was a vibe.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Even I did that and I had no business doing that.
I did the skinny jeans, I didthe V.
Actually, I'm still dressedkind of the same as back then
the old beanie with the deepjeans.
Our old bands used to playtogether all the time At the
Champ.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
And we just played the Champ recently.
We just played the champ, uh,we just played, yeah, the champ.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Uh, start, come back start up the comeback show.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
That's awesome how was it over there?
I haven't got a chance to checkit out, yeah, yeah that's
awesome.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
It was a good time, it's not the building, obviously
, yeah which was like.
You know that was the mainaesthetic of it.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, it was dirty grimy.
Everyone's here to go to a show.
Yeah, throw down somethingmight you don't use the Like.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
the fact that we all went to the Champ and used the
bathroom is probably why we allgot through COVID.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Yeah, it was like a nice bathroom.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
So yeah, because the new place it's just, it's like
in the school.
One of the school buildingsover there and yeah, it's super
clean and nice that's awesomeyeah very nice turnout for that,
that's good.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
So with you guys playing in the scene and you
have been.
I'm sorry I can't speak to yourexperience.
I don't know how long you'vebeen in the scene, I know
personally Roughly as long as hehas.
Okay, so perfect With you guysbeing in the scene as long.
You guys obviously have someboots to the ground, ears to the
ground.
You've seen how One thing thatwe really like to ask people is
because we like to think there'sobviously something very
(27:09):
special about the centralPennsylvania music scene
compared to.
I mean, you got LA, obviously,you've got Nashville, you've got
New York, sure, but central PA,man, you got Breaking Ben,
Taylor Swift, all these bands.
What do you guys think makesthis scene so special as the
people, as the players still inthe scene right now?
Speaker 6 (27:27):
That was a good question.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Yeah, because you would think population-wise it's
not even close to those otherareas.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Not at all how are we turning out?
I feel like we're all kind ofsandwiched in here between
mountains and Something in theair.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
There's something in the air.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
There's something going on Ding-a-ling-ding-ding,
it's just like yeah, before,like when we were most of the
bands around like you couldsound like complete shit and
still like generate a followingand it didn't matter back then
there's nobody care becauseyou're young, stupid, immature.
Yeah, it wasn't really aboutthat, it wasn't about the end
that.
But now, like people, the, thescene has matured to a point
(28:04):
where everybody's like okay, Iknow what's good and what sounds
good and who makes good stuff Ido think it's, you know, even
though those vision, my valorrochelle rochelle times were fun
, but I don't think it's beenbetter than it is now ever.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Yeah makes sense just the quality you know, just like
a healthy community yeah,everybody's a little older too,
seems a little older.
You know, there's not a lot ofnothing against teenagers and
bands and shit like that theygotta do it yeah 100.
Uh, that was all it was before,and now we're like fucking old.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I definitely had much more of that sense of like.
It was more like kind of likebackhanded cutthroat-y back then
You're like oh yeah, dude, goodset, good set.
And then you're like bro, wehave to have a heavier breakdown
than this 100 now.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Like the musicians are like dude, like seriously
like good set man, and likepeople are like genuinely like
uplifting, they're likegenuinely trying to support each
other.
Yeah, and I think that's reallyawesome it is, and the mixture
of bands is it's more diverse.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Yeah, back then it was just like you were metalcore
or you were nothing.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah and now it's just like you know, like our
best friends just still inhearst lynn.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Her shout out to those guys like they're our best
friends.
Just still in hearst lynnhearst, shout out to those guys
like they're our best bandfriends.
Like, uh, completely polaropposite, polar opposite, uh,
music than ours.
But like we love any chance weget to play a show with them.
We have one coming up indecember.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah, last one for the year, we'll be with them I
think we're doing uh, in aprilwe're gonna try, oh yeah,
that'll be more relevant to whenthis comes out.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Uh, we're trying to put together like a new england
tour.
I do believe oh, that'll besweet uh maybe like a week up,
up and down we haven't been pastnew york yet, so yeah, no,
going up north has proved to bea lot more challenging,
especially new york.
Half the shows we book up thereget canceled but, we've been
down south more times than Icount and I feel like we've
(29:54):
saturated that scene pretty well.
Now it's time to go north andwest how far south have you guys
gone?
north carolina oh wow, that'spretty good, we'd still like to
get down to florida too, butbecause I mean, you know, take
over where I date or rememberkind of left down there whatever
, whatever they've been doing noshade to a date or remember.
They're still my favorite.
Yeah, the goats.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah, he's like he's like I'm going down to fort
lauderdale and be like this isour town.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
I'm gonna go to.
You hated this town.
I love this town that's awesomeso any other.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
So with the um new england tour and everything, how
many stops are you trying to do?
Speaker 5 (30:28):
it's still early stages okay I think we only have
like two or three right nowthat are yeah, they're, they're
closing.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
I don't want some more dates, yeah getting up into
boston and stuff like that,hopefully, yeah, hopefully, that
materializes and then we'regonna.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
It's like 10 days, two weeks.
Yeah, it'd be nice if it was atleast a week or more, instead
of we've.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
We've traditionally done like four or five day runs
in the past and we'd like tostart going out a little longer.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Boston's got a pretty nice music scene up there too.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
That's what I've heard.
I think you guys would havesome great success.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Oh yeah, no questions asked where was like, where is
like your guys ideal spot you'dwant to go play at?
Speaker 6 (31:01):
I mean I'd love, like I said, I'd love to get down to
florida.
Yeah, I'd like to definitely goout, out west, for sure get
down to nashville.
I've heard good things,surprisingly for our type of
music in nashville you guysshould try and book the dome the
dome.
I'm sure.
I'm sure it'd be super easy tosell that out.
Yeah, for sure, that should beno problem.
No problem, just a phone call,man.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Phone call as long as you have enough time in advance
, you should be fine man, butyou guys do still have to sell
tickets.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Yeah, it is still pay to play.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
It's like a 3 000 ticket minimum hey, with the
right uh, media and marketing,you can do anything.
These days.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
If you got enough money to pump into it, you'll,
you'll go far.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah, it's true so moving forward with the band, I
mean, you guys have we talkedabout.
You have kind of a coupledifferent sounds, uh, and that's
awesome.
You guys have that and youdon't.
It sounds like you probablydon't really want to pigeonhole
yourself.
You want to be able to havethis creative freedom.
Do you have any other plans andnew, new sounds or anything
that you might be doing in thefuture?
Speaker 5 (31:58):
yeah, I mean it's weird.
I don't think my voice reallycaters properly to like strict
metalcore stuff.
You know what?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I mean you do.
You do have some more soul liker&b yeah like vibes to your, to
your vocals, which I love, bythe way well thanks some of the
best metalcore vocalists thesame way too.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
You know, that's true , yeah but it's yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
I guess it's just not as cookie cutter as I think it
should be honestly.
But to make it to make thatsound work anyway.
It's um all over the place, butwe're getting pretty heavy.
These next batch of songs,probably for the next year, are
going to be pretty heavy, Moreheavy than not.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Yeah, I mean we're hoping to have if the timeline
works, before the end of theyear we'll have another single
out, another music video, andthat just screams like 2010's
Metalcore.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Oh, thank God, yes, dude, that just got me so
excited.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Another time's passed , we can bring it back.
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Next year, look forward to a few more heavy
releases.
We worked on a song recently,that's more almost new metal.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Yeah, okay, very new, metal-esque and with no singing
, no cleans.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
No, cleans at all.
What?
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Which I haven't done before.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Yeah, so that was a change, oh dude that's awesome,
yeah and then, uh, we'll have acover, probably out next year
too okay, disney cover, oh hellyeah.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
So.
So let me ask you how did fueldoing?
Speaker 5 (33:23):
just screams it's good it has to be.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
It's only like two minutes, so that's, that's my
cap dude, it kicks your ass, man, it does, it kicks you out, do
both oh, thanks man.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
It's like our second sucks yeah it's like you make
sure you respect people likejake lures so much you're just
like how do you?
Speaker 5 (33:40):
guys go up and put on a two hour long show too, and
he's just yeah, yeah, I know,you know I could do it for a
while, but then singing's done.
Yeah, I'll be honest, that'swhen I knew like I was done.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
We tried doing a tour .
It was a quick little weekendtour and I was just like we did
it.
It was only like four days orwhatever.
But they were back to back andI just realized my voice.
I was like dude, even though Iknow I'm doing it right.
Bottom line is, unless you havelike someone paying you for
your vocal coaches and you havelike the steaming and like all
of the therapies you can do, ifyou don't have that, you have a
time limit for how long you cando that and I realized I had hit
(34:13):
my time limit.
I was like if we get any biggerthan this, and the label's like
we want to send you on asix-month tour.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
I'm like we're gonna go bankrupt because we're gonna
cancel work out like any othermuscle man it it yeah, it was,
it was getting rough, but and Idon't do it right.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
There's no way no, no , there's no way.
I hear all these other guys.
I'm like shit, I'm not doing itlike that?
No, they're all doing it wrong,maybe I'm the only, you're the
only one you figured it out.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
You got the golden rule, I mean, I don't know.
I feel like there's like awrong way to do it, but there's
also like a wrong way for youand a right way for you as well
I agree with that you have guyslike like.
Look at like ollie sykes anddanny warschnapp both blew out
their vocal cords but both arevastly different vocals yeah um
I do like the originality of itwhen it's I guess, done wrong.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, but uh I 100, know what you mean and I I agree
.
I think wrong, honestlyaudio-wise sounds better, in my
opinion.
But so if you guys, ifLindhurst is your best band
friends or whatever and we'vebeen talking about this you've
got some Day to Remember, vibesand everything.
All I thought of was when Dayto Remember had Devil Wears
(35:29):
Prada feature.
So could we maybe look at likea crossover we've discussed it
I'm just.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
Ed actually made a mash-up of.
He put his vocals on our songand, uh, my vocals on theirs
yeah, what songs was it?
It was sorry for the way I amthere's and pick a lane better
than the original songs.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Wait what you put you put lyrics down on.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Sorry for the way I am yeah, and then he just like
switched the vocals out.
Yeah, he switched our becauseit's like the same, okay, the
same takes from our the originalsongs just switched into
different songs.
I guess is it.
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
I think it's pick a lane and yeah, they got to be
close, I guess yeah I mean theydo play in drop c.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
I think you tuned it down.
Oh, that's true, so it could beclose.
It sounds great.
It sounds better than it'spretty.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Cool is awesome, like you guys I think, I truly think
and this is no disrespect toany other bands that are out
there right now but the waythey're marketing, like their
photos, their, their themes,their content, like, uh, like
stability, their engagementtheir engagement is insane, I
think they're gonna be like ifthere's going to be a pop punk
band that breaks out right now.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
For us it's going to be Lynn Hurst, no questions
asked, absolutely, and I thinkthey deserve it.
They do.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Yeah, I listen to at least one Lynn Hurst song a day.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
If not more Really.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Every day I got to at least listen to some Lynn Hurst
.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
I'm sick of it.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
He's like actually I just hate them now.
It's just the worst.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
This is supposed to be about us.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
Yeah, why are we talking about Lynn Hurst?
You're right, I'm sorry, guys.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I'll be sure to have Lynn Hurst write you guys a
check then, to compensate youfor your time on here, we're
going to need some time, yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Sorry, Ed, Sorry Kevin.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Sorry, Mark.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Wait, wait, wait.
Also the oldest, I believe.
Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I do believe that is correct.
Man has aged like fine wine.
He has, he is, he is chef'scake me over here.
I've aged like milk.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I'm just like mike I feel you it's like 10 years
older than me.
It looks like 10 years younger.
Yeah it's.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
It's annoying, yeah but, guys, thank you so much for
taking the time to come out andtalk to us any other last
minute shout outs.
You want to.
You want to give to the fansAnyone that you know might be
curious about some upcomingthings?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Definitely not any more Lindhurst talk.
No, that's enough.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, but yeah I just realized you're wearing a
Lindhurst hat too.
I am.
I didn't even notice that.
God damn it.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
No we got it.
Can we reshoot this whole thing?
Yeah, absolutely fine.
We'll.
Just, it'll be dynamic, it'llbe uh, yeah, but you know we're
going through transitional,transitional phases, two new
members, two new members, uh,all new, you know our rhythm
section is new yeah, new drums,new bass, dope so I'm super
(38:08):
excited.
They're both super tight bunchofunch of new songs Soon as uh
soon, as they're up to speedwith the old ones.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
We're going to be?
Yeah, it's been a lot of workand for some people who might
not be aware of how to do this,where can they find your music?
Everywhere.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Spotify, every streaming service that exists, I
do believe.
Yeah, that's true, Deezer.
I've never even heard of it butwe have it on there.
Facebook, Instagram.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
Amazon Music, YouTube Music, everything.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
So anywhere you're listening to this podcast, you
can probably find it.
You can find it 100%.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Awesome.
Well, thank you so much, guys.
Man, I really appreciate youguys taking the time to come out
and talk to us tonight.
Yeah, it was so nice to finallymeet you guys.
You too, yep, thanks, guys.
All right, guys, that aboutdoes it for this week.
As always, we want to thank ourviewers and our fans and our
guests Until next time, guys.
See you then.
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