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December 21, 2025 61 mins

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We have heard from the victims of generational trauma from it’s victims, but what about the people who perpetuate it, until they finally realising what they are doing?

That is the story of Lenny Ravich, a man who experienced abuse as ‘punishment’ and passed it on to his children until he realised what he was doing and worked hard to make the change.

Lenny is an 89-year-old keynote speaker, author, and Gestalt therapist whose life work bridges humour, healing, and human connection. His message lands with lightness and truth – shaped by decades of lived experience, not theory. Lenny doesn’t just talk about joy – he lives it.


In this episode he shares:


-      What it was like for him growing up and the violence he experienced from his parents

-      How he perpetuated generational violence

-      His relationship with his sister and reconciling with her

-      how a conference and gestalt therapy led him to realisations about himself

-      Gestalt therapy and realising awareness and mindfulness

-      An experience that led him to fully accept himself

-      What was his process of changing after his realisation

-      His experience of deep listening and how it has impacted his life


Key Quotes


“Aa person could tell me they're dying in 3 days and I would joke about it.”

“It was all about me, anything that came up, it was all about me.”

“I didn’t tackle my narcissism it's still there but I’m aware of it happening


More about Lenny


Find his website here.


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If you want to find out more about what Ali does, check out her business via the website:

http://www.trialtitudeperformance.com.au


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