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  • Dr. Rolly Lagutin (via El Lagutin) – A father’s ultimate sacrifice: leaving behind his medical career in the Philippines to start over in America for his family.
  • Chris Neville – How an AT&T tech turned corporate sales leader launched a drone videography business to transform sports.
  • Anna DiCarlo – Redefining holistic skincare & wellness, balancing entrepreneurship, motherhood, and healing.
  • Steve & Bre PriceMilitary veterans turned health entrepreneurs, creating Libertas Cryo & Radiant Roots to transform pain management & recovery.
  • James Cripps & Don Smith – Unpacking the VA system, veterans’ rights, and the fight for benefits they deserve.
  • Janis Lasmanis – From security detail for Eminem & Prince Charles to building Nashville’s premier exotic car detailing business.
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Jim Cripps (00:00):
If you've missed some episodes, if you're just
now tuning in and you want toget a little taste of the
amazing guests and the storiesand nuggets that they have
shared, well, that's what we'regoing to give you on this
episode.
This is your one-stop shop forall the fantastic things that
happened on the Charge Forwardpodcast.
Please enjoy.
I'm sure there's some money outthere.

(00:22):
Just send a chat, what's up.
It's $58 a month.

Steve Price (00:27):
Dude.
Look at the money.
It hurts to hear all thecharges.

Jim Cripps (00:29):
What can you think about?
You know it's the highest youcan talk to.
The spirit of the ChargeForward podcast is really that
of people that default tocharging forward, getting it
done when other people give up.
And you know, I'm sure there'ssomebody out there that has just
been sunshine and rainbowstheir entire life.
Um, but you know, you know Ithink back on it and, um, you

(00:55):
know, one of the mostchallenging things is I see you
go, uh, you go to Alabama, whichis, you know, rockstar.
You wanted to go to Alabama asa school.
You get down there and, uh, amI thinking right that this is
your junior or senior year andhave to have a brain surgery.

Quinton Horner (01:12):
Oh yeah, my senior senior year.
Uh, it's kind of talk aboutsomething that comes out of the
blue, right.
Uh, before I went back from mysenior year, my dad, who had had
an aneurysm, said why don't youjust go get a precautionary MRI
?
And I did in August and theyfound something about the size
of a P?
Um no symptoms, no headaches,no nothing.
So I got another one when I washome for Thanksgiving that that

(01:33):
year and it was the size of agolf ball.
Still no side effects, nosymptoms, no nothing.
So they knew, they knew what itwas and that I would have
surgery over Christmas.
So that was an interestingChristmas break on December 23rd
.
At what?
22 years old to have brainsurgery right before Christmas.

(01:54):
But yeah, that was a story totell for sure.

Jim Cripps (01:58):
Well, and you know, one of the things that sticks
out in my head is what it wasfor 24, 48 hours.
You really could only say threewords, and we don't want to use
them here on the air, but therewere three of the cuss words
and that was about it for thefirst two days.

Quinton Horner (02:12):
Yeah, it's interesting, and everybody kind
of knew that's what it was, Iguess the swelling of your brain
when oxygen hits it.
But yeah, I started with yep,nope and shit.
But yeah, I started with yep,nope and shit, yep, and built
everything back up from there.
So there was my foundation.

Jim Cripps (02:27):
Well, and I think the other thing, too, that I
find just amazing is that he wasa doctor there, yeah, and
really had to come here andstart all over.

El Lagutin (02:37):
He really did, and you know, that's a cool story in
itself.
He went to med school in thePhilippines, graduated top of
his class, um, which is, youknow, to think about that now is
incredible, right, like youhave to be wicked smart to do
that.
And my dad was um.
And then he did his residencyon Claire Clark Air Force Base,
um there in the Philippines.

(02:58):
And you know, the Air Forcecame to his med medical school
and, hey, if you do yourresidency here, we'll give you
an avenue to get to the UnitedStates.
And he did that.
And so he did that, came to theUnited States and when he got
here, found out, you know, he isnot a licensed physician in the

(03:19):
United States and so he justhad a new baby and needed to
figure that out.
And so his first job was um inCalifornia.
So we, when they moved here, um, I was born in Oakland,
california, um.
And so his first job in theUnited States was counting
baskets, coming off ships, um,doing that.

(03:43):
And then he shined shoes, youknow, going from being a doctor
in the Philippines, you know, tocoming to the United States and
not having anything.

Breanna Price (03:55):
When Steve got decided he was going to finally
start addressing his health andhis pain management stuff, I
think it was kind of like afloodgate situation.
There's a lot of people whotalk about it a little bit more.
Um, some people will call itoperator syndrome and some
people will just not name it,but there's a lot of people that
, um, when they have a highintensity job whether it's

(04:18):
special forces, whether it's acombat job in the military, even
if it's not combat combat, afirst responder style situation
when they come out of that highstress situation, their body is
still ramped up and producingthe cortisol to be able to get
through and manage that.
And there are a lot of peoplewho struggle with mental health
issues coming out of that andbeing able to calm their bodies

(04:39):
down.
And we noticed that with Steve,where he just he was having fun.
He calls it having fun.
It's not fun for me, buteverything he did was very high
intensity, high stress.
And then when he stopped that,it came to a grinding halt.
We left our whole community.
We were going through IVF andinfertility treatments and then

(04:59):
he also went to a desk job atthat same time and it was like
opening the floodgates of wow,what's going on with my body?
He did.
He tried to do everything thathe was told to do by the doctors
.

Steve Price (05:13):
Which is not normal , which is not normal.

Breanna Price (05:15):
He never does what he's told.
And it just seemed to make thesituation worse.
And then, with the healthissues that I was having and the
infertility and the losses withIVF, and my health kept getting
worse and I still same thingkept doing everything I was
supposed to do, everything thatI was told to do with the

(05:37):
doctor's orders and commonWestern medicine, and it just
made the situation worth.
And it was early 2020, beforeall the fun craziness in 2020.
Um, we decided that we werejust going to start stepping
back and addressing our healthin the best way that we knew how
, and we were.

(05:58):
We did a ton of research and weum, tried a bunch of different
things and found what worked foreach of us individually, and I
think that's part of how it cameto me creating my business and
then Steve creating his is thebio-individual approach, like
cold plunge is a great example.
Cold plunge is awesome forSteve.

(06:19):
It's great for him.
It made my migraines worse, butI had cryotherapy, which it's a
cold therapy.
You think it would be the same?
Sure, but it actually made mymigraines better.
So that was part of the reasonwhy we added so many modalities
to our shop is we wanted to beable to meet people where they
were at and help as much as wecould help the individual person

(06:42):
with their individual problems.

Jim Cripps (06:44):
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, you know, the great newsis uh, emmett, is is proof that
you guys healed right.
Or in in the process of healing.
You know, I think, I think it'sa full-time, uh endeavor as we
get older, to make sure thatwe're, uh, we're, we're putting
our best physical self forwardand taking care of that.

Breanna Price (07:06):
Yeah, no, and being able to work on the
healing and feel better in myown body also makes me a better
mom.
I mean thinking back to when Iwas at that peak desperation and
just fresh off a loss with IVFmy body wasn't healthy, I wasn't
healthy, my mind wasn't healthy, and thinking about how

(07:27):
exhausting it is to have a kid.
Now I'm really glad that I tookthe effort to work on some of
those foundational thingsbecause I'm able to be as
patient as possible, morepatient, more present.
I'm able to enjoy the momentsand not get stuck in that
sadness cycle.
So I think that's a reallypowerful thing of everybody.
Everybody has their own journeyand everybody has something

(07:47):
different that will work forthem.
But to lean into that andlisten to your body and it's
worth the effort of trying toheal from a foundational aspect.

Jim Cripps (07:56):
Absolutely.
And so what were, what weresome key things that that you
did um, that that led to youguys being able to conceive?

Breanna Price (08:04):
A lot of things Well.

Steve Price (08:06):
Jim, I just kept climbing up there.
I don't think they understand.
But no, it was a lot ofdifferent things.
It was a lot of teamwork inorder to do it?

Breanna Price (08:18):
Is it teamwork to conceive?

Steve Price (08:19):
Well, in addressing our individual and our group,

(08:44):
our couple of medicalrequirements in order to do that
, you know, and thenetFoundation that we were able to
meet other people and hearstories, or the benefit from the
Donovan and Baines Foundation,where they paid for us to go get
, uh, stellate ganglia block andthen, uh, brie wasn't able to

(09:09):
get this but as a part of thattreatment I was able to do
ketamine therapy and, inconjunction with that, and uh,
so you know, all these differentuh organizations helping us and
other people helping us and usalso taking the time to to try
to address some things reallyhelped us out yeah, well, you

(09:29):
know, I think globally, um, theability to like fertility is a
problem.

Jim Cripps (09:35):
it's a growing problem, uh, you know, and you
could argue it's because of thechemicals, it's because of how
we live our lives.
I mean all types of things,even even just the the way
society views masculinity orclassic feminine femininity.
Um, you know, it is, uh, it's,it's very concerning, um, and so

(09:55):
I think this is a great timeand space, for there's a lot of
people right now that arewondering are we going to be
able to conceive?
You know, they may be sixmonths in, or 12 months in, or
or years in, and and, andthey're kind of at a loss
because they've done everythingthat you know Western medicine
says is the right thing, andthey're, they're still striking

(10:16):
out or they're still having, uh,those very taxing, uh, failures
that that hit so close to home.
How did you get into Reiki andthe holistic side of healing and
natural products?
You know, obviously they allkind of mesh together, but how
did it start?

Anna DiCarlo (10:34):
So LaBelle came first.
Well, technically, thespiritual side came first, but
we'll start with LaBelle.
Labelle came first because mydaughter had chemically induced
eczema.
Not knowing what it was.
I had a pediatrician whodecided to help me because not
giving her baths and just hopingshe grows out of it was not a
good enough answer for me.
So, being first time mom, youknow you want to do everything

(10:57):
right and so I signed to my babyyou know all the baby sign
language and, um, just trying tohelp her with her leg.
I had no idea what chemicallyinduced eczema was and it's just
the chemicals within anythingthat sits on a shelf.
It doesn't matter if it'snatural, organic, pure, doesn't
matter if it sits on a shelf, ithas to have a chemical.

(11:18):
So, um, hearing that I'm like,well, what I would like?
I'm not going to not give herbaths, right, or I'm not going
to just sit and hope that shegets better.
So what I didn't know is mypediatrician at the time also
pressed, practiced holisticmedicine on the side with his
family.
So he helped me to formulate,know how to research, know where

(11:38):
to grab information, what tolook for, what oils not to use
on babies, because baby skin isdifferent than adults, all the
things that we don't think aboutor we don't know about, he
informed me about.
And so I came up with my firstproduct, which was a body butter
.
And you know, when I started.
A holistic and natural productis not new.

(11:59):
Okay, people have been doing itforever.
Okay, so we just repeat thecycle.
Okay, so me doing that?
Um, I knew it wasn't profound,it just happened to help her,
right, and so I took her back.
It was gone and he was likethis is great, what have you
been using?
And I said, well, I formulatedthis.
He goes.
Well, that's amazing, you know.
And I said, yeah, now I'm goingto work on soap, because that's

(12:21):
what I wash her with, right?
That makes sense.
So I started with the soapprocess.
I couldn't go on Etsy orPinterest or all these other
places that now have information, and I say like that because
it's not proper information,it's just information.
But anyway, I went through anddid that and all of a sudden,

(12:43):
her legs were great and her skinwas beautiful and there was no
more issue.
Well, then I had a friend whowas like hey, my son has this on
his leg.
They can't find anything.
They're giving me steroids forit.
Can you help?
Sure, here have some.
And I just kind of did that.
But then I was giving away somuch that it started eating away
at our you know our income andat that time we were one whole,

(13:06):
like one household income.
So my husband was working but Iwasn't.
I was home with her cause shehad a lot of medical problems.
She, you know um, had acidreflux, really bad, so when she
ate she had a chance of chokingon it and it was just a whole
thing.
She is my worry child, um.
But yeah, so I started withthat and it just kind of

(13:28):
flourished into a business.
Within a year of starting I wasalready looking at doing a
storefront.
I went to go do a storefrontand I found out that that same
daughter had um, had hearingloss, and I was like, well, what
, what is, what is this Like,what is?
And apparently we had taken herto um a mommy's day out program

(13:52):
at a church and we loved itthere.
But one of the teachers waslike, do you ever notice if
she's not looking at you?
She's doesn't pay attention.
I'm like no, I didn't.
She's my only child.
She looks at me all the timelike there's nothing you know.
So, anyway, we take her in,super long story short.
We take her in, they find outthat, yes, she doesn't have
hearing in her ears.

(14:12):
Right, she is minimal.
You have to, like, scream ather for her to hear and, um, if
she's not looking at you, well,here she'd been reading my lips
and with baby sign, she'd beenable to figure things out.
So she was farther along thansomebody who was completely deaf
, um, but as they were trying tofind a reason for why she
didn't have hearing, they founda tumor behind her eye.

(14:35):
So neurosurgery was in our path.
And so, when she was three anda half, um, I was already
pregnant with the second one andwe found out it was a genetic
issue.
My husband holds a gene, I holda gene and that's 25% chance
we'll have a deaf child.
And, of course, I was alreadypregnant.
I'm like great, like what is?
Is this one going to be dead?

(14:55):
You know, I all these crazythings.
At that point we were movingfrom Murfreesboro to where we
are now in Chapman's boroughs,and then I don't even remember
the process for that, um thatwas the least of your worries.
Yes, because then I'd had mysecond child my you know first
was going in for neurosurgery.
So of course I shut down mybusiness and that's where that I

(15:18):
was being beaten right, or itfelt like I was being defeated,
and I took a year off of that,didn't open my storefront
because we moved and you know, Ihad a new baby and I had a
daughter that had neurosurgery.
And then a year later Ireopened.
I had $200 and I said I'meither going to make it or break

(15:41):
it.
And here I am.

Jim Cripps (15:43):
There you go, and that was roughly 10 years ago,
right.

James Cripps (15:48):
When I was 18 years old probably when you was
18 years old, Don we joined themilitary.
I think Don was drafted, but itdidn't make any difference, we
both went.

Jim Cripps (15:59):
Right, you were going one way or the other.

James Cripps (16:01):
Yeah, I made $87 a month.
Don probably made a little lessbecause he was a year too ahead
of me.
Yeah, so $78 a month, $78 amonth, yeah, you think about
that.
You know what can you buy withthat?
My wife had to move back inwith her parents when I was

(16:24):
deployed overseas.
No way, with that kind of pay,could we afford for her to.
So then I get out of themilitary and I've got these
disabilities and I don't knowwhere they came from and I've
got to make a living and I'vegot to raise my kids and I've

(16:44):
got to support a living and I'vegot to raise my kids and I've
got to support my family allthese years trying to make a
living with these disabilities.
So it's a lot harder for me tomake my living than it is the
average Joe walking down thestreet and I go like that for
more than 40 years.
They can't pay me enough moneyto make up for all of that.

(17:08):
Right, I did raise my family.
I owned my own business, but Ihad to work a lot harder on
account of my disabilities.

Jim Cripps (17:18):
Now you're most recent putting your toe into the
entrepreneurial world.
So how did you get associatedwith FlyRoute?
How did you come up and decidethat that was what you wanted to
do?
You know obviously a big stepto take, and you've already got
some pretty good clients outthere.

Chris Neville (17:35):
Yeah, so that's an interesting process because
it's one of these.
I got to explain a littlejourney too, where, you know,
through my current role withDirecTV and I'm looking, I'm
responsible for businessdevelopment and ROI and all
these sales productivity goalswith all these partners of
DirecTV I realized real quickthat I wasn't taking my own

(17:56):
advice, I wasn't listening tomyself.
Corporate sales leader this guythat's teaching and developing
all these entrepreneurs to besmarter when it comes to
marketing, how, how they're, youknow, utilizing all their sales
tactics, things like that and Iwasn't taking my own advice.
So I actually, um, as, as I waslooking in, wanting to find

(18:17):
this passion or purpose again, Iwas like, you know, I need to
get back engaged with my almamater, my schools and football
specific.
That's kind of my love andpassion, football.
But so social media is apowerful tool, right, and I was
on social media.
There's a staffing head coachchange at Wilson Central, my
alma mater.
So I owe a lot of my success inlife to Wilson Central, for

(18:38):
sure, as a school and a program.
But uh, yeah, I saw that theywere using drone technology
right to process game film andpractice and scrimmages and
things like that, and it wasbeyond enticing and and
mesmerizing in my mind, like,like the first my.
My mind first went to thecompetitive advantage, right, um

(19:00):
, how that provides value tocoaches and athletes, and and
secondarily, it was more likethat's cool, I don't, I don't, I
don't, it doesn't matter whatyou say, that's cool and it's.
It's as sports have has,technology has evolved and
sports have evolved that nowthere's a, there's a merge
between drone aviation, right,or drone videography and sports

(19:22):
and it's yeah.
So it was fascinating and Ijust wanted to learn, learn,
learn, learn, learn.
Went to their social mediaaccounts and and or and followed
them and then I saw one daythey post uh, now accepting or
expansion I can't remember theverbiage, but they were.
They posted that they werelooking for entrepreneur-minded,
strong business leaders thatwanted to partner and become a

(19:42):
service provider in a differentmarket.
They're based out of Denver,colorado.
So I did that Seven monthslater, just approved, went
through this interview you knowthe process and the onboarding
process and the validationprocess and was fortunate enough
to launch FlyRoute Nashvilleback in April.
Okay, so how's that going so far?
It's going great so far.
I mean I can't.

(20:03):
I got to give a shout out toColin and Michael, the founder
of Fly Route headquarters inDenver, and then, obviously, to
Michael and the team.
Colin and Michael and the teamthey're second to none man.
They've said they've made thisprocess so seamless and easy for
me to be able to be co-aligned,vision wise and strategy wise
on how we want to execute on thebusiness plan and how we me to

(20:24):
be able to be co-aligned,vision-wise and strategy-wise on
how we want to execute on thebusiness plan and how we want to
scale.
And it all boils down to clientcustomer service.
Right?
How do we provide the bestvideography, the best
professional drone videographyservice in this small niche
market?
Right?
Basically, it's a smalldemographic of coaches and
athletic directors that we'remarketing to but for the most

(20:47):
part, if I'm understanding thiscorrectly, the market's not
saturated.

Jim Cripps (20:51):
No, there's like you're.
Usually, if you're coming insitting down with them, you're
the first one that they'reconsidering, absolutely.
And it's kind of like.
I look back 30 years ago, maybemore than that, and I remember
when I was started selling cellphones, I was selling cell
phones to people that didn'thave cell phones yet.
That was way easier than it istoday, when everybody's already
got one Right, and so you know,I think you being first to

(21:13):
market in that regard is prettyhuge.

Chris Neville (21:15):
Yeah, and especially in this market too.
And again shout out to Colinand Michael for from being able
to acquire clients and orexpress um or, you know, obtain
right, a need in a differentmarket, right from Denver to
Nashville How's that connection?
That's crazy, right.
And then for someone like me tobe able to see it and then
obviously be accepted into theirvision and partnership, right,

(21:38):
yeah.
And it's definitely whereFlyRoute is an industry leader,
right.
There's no other professionaldrone videography service out
there that offers and marketswhat we do and executes like we
do.
It's just plain and simpleno-transcript.

Janis Lasmanis (21:57):
I started to kind of pace things together and
I started running into someproblems.
How do you clean the carpet?
What kind of chemicals do youuse?
So obviously, youtube certifiedthe honest.
And then I see all these guyswith these amazing shops, all
the shops that I have now,that's right, all the lights and
R8s and Ferraris and all thisstuff, and some of them are

(22:17):
owners and operators and stuff,and I really enjoyed doing it.
And it started to kind of put,like, you know, almost like a
little business plan together.
I'm like, look, I've gotnothing to do anyway.
Might as well just do a littlemarket research.
So I called around you knowwhat would it cost to you know
detail, I don't know, a C-classMercedes, like 200 bucks.
You know, I'm like, damn,that's a lot of money.

(22:38):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
That's still a lot of money.
So I started a Facebook page,went to AutoZone with about $200
in my pocket.
I had like some sort of shopvac already and like an $80
power washer, yeah.
And then I bought, you know, aglass cleaner, spray, wax, some

(22:59):
rags, you know, and I put acouple of posts up on on.
You know, there's like local, Idon't know local franklin buy
and sell, just put up, like youknow.
Come to your house for 150bucks or 125 dollars.
Yeah, clean your car.
And my first car was an escalade.
It was pre-used but, um, shebought it used second hand and
the detail, uh, the the detaildepartment at dealership didn't
do a great job.
She's like it's a two-year-oldcar but it still looks like crap

(23:20):
.
Yeah, so she's like I'm gonnaget them to pay for it.
Can you come to my house anddude like I could have finished
that car half an hour but kindof had to drag it off at least
like two.
You know it's just dusty.
So I did that.
She gave me 150 and 150 tip,okay, and I was like well, yeah,
she's gonna get the dealershipto pay for it.
Yeah, yeah, I'm like she's like,can you send me an invoice?

(23:40):
I'm like, sure, I don't have aninvoice, but I figured it out,
you know.
Just download one, you know,google it Because she had the
invoice, the dealership, butyeah, I was like 300 bucks.
I'm like I could have done.
I know what reacts witheverything.

(24:01):
You know how it works and yeah,the rest is kind of history,
you know.
So I then started to, you know,start to advertise more.
Then I created a Google profile, started a website yeah,
obviously started LSC and then Igot involved in a couple like
local cars and coffee groups aswell.
I was there every Sunday and Istill remember there's one cars
and coffee groups as well.

(24:21):
I was there every Sunday and Istill remember there's one cars
and coffee in Dallas Landing.
There was usually three of uson a Sunday Three, yeah, because
it was like I don't know ifit's snowing.
Everybody's like now, everySunday, there's about 1,500 cars
.
Yeah, I'm like, damn, no, Imean it was good.
So, yeah, you know, and justgetting local trust and
everything.
And then when I started to getmore cars and more bookings,

(24:42):
then I hired a buddy of mine whodidn't know how to vacuum a car
and I'll teach him all the waysand everything.
Sure, so that was my firstemployee.
Then I have another one.
Then I moved into the shop.
I was renting kind of like ashop space.
Then we had our own shop andthen things started to evolve.
We started to subcontract acouple things, like you know,
window tinting and stuff, andthen I opened a place in florida

(25:04):
, in orlando, and then, uh, andthen, yeah, our house flooded,
oh wow, yeah, it's just a pipeburst that you know, we're going
to a super bowl party for twodays.
Come back and there's likewater coming out of garage, like
.
But we rented, it was good.
So that was my, that was mywife's time to pull out of
Virginia, because she grew upthere, she didn't want to live

(25:25):
there.
So we kind of just traveledaround.
I was like baby, I just startedthis business, I just started
stacking money.
We got married as well.
So we got married here and wealso got married in Latvia,
which is a beautiful weddingthat I paid for as well, and I
was really happy that I had theopportunity.
You know, like you know, familyhelped me before and now we got
married in Palace which wasbuilt for Russian Tsar's wife.

(25:46):
Oh my God, you can't even getmarried there.
But my grandfather, he was abig shot, you know.
So he pulled that off, so itwas beautiful.
So then all of a sudden, we gotmarried and come back and she'm
like where?
Like I don't know, I know 10people at the time in America,
you know.
So we went to North Carolina,went to LA, to Vegas, you know,

(26:07):
and I'm like this doesn't makesense.
I was like you know, do youknow anybody?
Like in Nashville?
No, let's check it out there.
So we came out here, partied,obviously, for two days.
That was great, you know,downtown, yeah, broadway, oh
great time.
And like you know, when youfocus on like let's say
something, I don't know, youfocus on a white van.
You know, that's all you see onthe street.

(26:28):
So I kind of looked around.
I'm like, yeah, I just see someshitty cars here.
You know, I don't know, can Imake money?
Yeah, bear in mind, this is,you know, no offense like
nashville's cool.
But before, before I knew it,I'm like this is t, you know,
and I was in Loudoun County,which is richest county in
America.
Then all of a sudden I see allthese beaters around, and then I
came and then, yeah, she wasstill in a bed.

(26:49):
We all hang over, but I was, Ijust.

Virgil Herring (26:51):
I was just like , let me just go and check out
Nashville cars and coffee, and Iwas like holy mackerel probably
one of the most critical,intangible pieces of somebody
that you want in your life isthe person who doesn't give up,
the person that keeps fightingand giving up and not to keep
fighting.
That can be interesting.
It depends on how somebodywants to look at that word,

(27:13):
because sometimes if you end arelationship, it's not quitting,
it's moving forward, right.
And you, you have to acceptthat there are some people in
your life that are here forchapters and there's some people
that are here for volumes, andsome people here for your entire
life.
Sure, right, you just have toget really good at deciding

(27:33):
who's a chapter, who's a volumeand who's an entirety, and each
particular one ultimately endsup shaping you into who you're
going to be.
So not be judgmental about arelationship that comes and goes
, but to use it as a steppingstone for the next place that
you're trying to go, or whereGod has got your hand in taking

(27:55):
you.
You had to experience that hedoesn't make any mistakes.
That's right, right.
Make any mistakes, that's right, right.
So, even though it feelspainful that this person's no
longer in your life, one way orthe other, you had to go through
that because the next one'sgoing to be more impactful, and
anything that you glean from theprevious allows you to be more
successful in the future, andthat's really what it takes to

(28:15):
be great at anything you do youknow along the way, whether
we're talking about you knowyour your time in sports there
at Wilson Central, whether we'retalking about your time in
college or then Vanderbilt orthen back in Illinois.

Jim Cripps (28:28):
I mean, obviously you popped around a bit and
that's just kind of the natureof the beast, but who would you
say has been some of your topmentors along the way?

Chris Neville (28:38):
Top mentors would have to be a couple, really.
There's a my high school coach,his coach duane alexander, was
the the first that was able tokind of establish a connection
with me and be able to instillthese values and principles of
like.
To this day I still I live bythis.
As you know, in high school weuse the terminology reap what

(29:00):
you sow, sow.
It's just the way it worksright, and especially in sports
and in that environment, that'show I've lived my life, my
entire life.
I've also had you know, I wasfortunate enough that Coach
Alexander was able to come toCumberland as well, so I played
for him as well.

Jim Cripps (29:13):
Oh that's cool.

Chris Neville (29:14):
Yeah, and so he's been the biggest mentor and you
know inspiration throughout myathletics life and inspiration
throughout my athletics lifeThroughout strength and
conditioning and the collegiateexperience.
I could name three or four, butthe majority of at that level,
at the Division I level, almostevery coach is an inspiration,
right, especially when you'regreen and you're new into the

(29:35):
industry.
There's a reason why they'rethere.
Absolutely.
They're not just volunteerslike me at baseball, right, they
don't just run the sticks onFriday night, right, they're
there for a reason and they'reobviously that Division I level,
ncaa professional.
So taking little pieces of allof those guys and learning and

(29:55):
truly being a sponge and amaster of the game, right and
coaching and leadership, that'show I've determined a lot of
things and there's probably fouror five different guys I can
name, but that's on the athleticside.
On tying everything together,the biggest inspiration for me
and what I listen to the mostand the most content that I
consume, would be a gentlemannamed Andy Fursella.

(30:16):
Are you familiar with him?
I'm not.
No, he runs a podcast himself.
He's actually the CEO of uh.
It's called first form.
It's a supplement company, so Iam familiar with first form
First form is.
His company also runs a bunchI'm sure five, six, seven, eight
, 25 other businesses, right,but uh, his content relates to
me, cause we have very similarenergy.
Uh, we, I think that you know,and also, too, he's a he's a

(30:46):
pretty cut throat, straight tothe point guy Like hey, it is
what it is, it's cut and dry,you like it, you like it If you
don't change the channel, that'sright, you know, and so I
admire that.
And um, yeah, so those are theguys that make the impact for me
every day.

Jim Cripps (30:52):
Um, in that space.
Who?
Who's been a mentor to you?

Anna DiCarlo (30:57):
Oh my goodness, in the spiritual space.

Jim Cripps (31:00):
Well, all of it.

Anna DiCarlo (31:01):
All of it, okay.
The LBN part of it is me myselfand I, mm-hmm, I always strive
to do better to help somebodythat maybe doesn't know they
need help, right, or people thatare looking for other options,
and I think all options arenecessary, right, you do what
you can.

(31:21):
There's good, better, best.
I consider LBN part of the bestcategory, but I'm sure there's
somebody out there that's justas you know what I mean.
Like, there's, for me, it's notabout the competition, it's
about who I'm helping, right,how many people can I reach?
How many people can I changetheir minds?
How many people can weenlighten, bring back the self,
any one of those things minds?

(31:43):
How many people can weenlighten, bring back to self
any one of those things?
Um, lbn was me myself and I forthe spiritual realm.
Um, that one's funny.
Uh.
So currently I work with a Ilike to call us mastermind group
, right, because we lift eachother up.
There there's zero competition.
We each can do what everybodyelse does, but we specialize in

(32:05):
certain things, right?
So we've got Michelle, who doesa lot of the physical body, she
does the ozone, she does Reikias well.
She's able to do medical Reiki.
So while she's doing it.
She's like oh, your liver, like, let's check on your liver,
let's do X, y and Z right.
And she's like oh, your liver,let's check on your liver, let's
do X, y and Z right.

(32:26):
And I had a client reach out tome and she's like ozone seems
too good.
It's a clinic in our house.
How good can it be right?
I said whoa, whoa, first off,check yourself, you're judging
right.
This is pure judgment.
You're uncomfortable becauseit's not in a doctor setting.
What's the difference?
Just the office Like what'sactually a difference?
And she didn't really tell meand I was like, okay, well, she

(32:50):
is a nurse practitioner, so bythe state of Tennessee she's
recognized to be a nursepractitioner.
I said, but she's also afunctional medicine nurse, so
you have the best of both worlds, right, she can prescribe you
Z-Pak, but then also bang it upwith all these extra like ozone
and herbal remedies and whateverright.

Jim Cripps (33:13):
It's like the best of both worlds.

Anna DiCarlo (33:14):
Absolutely it is.
And then, um, you know, she'ssomebody that I go to.
I have my other close friend.
She's pretty much like a sisterat this point, but Christy is
her name and she's a emotionalcoder.

El Lagutin (33:31):
And I learned this from my dad.
So my dad had two really goodfriends who were also mentors to
him Dr Weathers, who has passed, also mentors to him.
Um, dr Weathers, who's who'shas passed um and um.
And another doctor of hisfriend, dr Dressler.
Um, they, they were really good, you know, mentors to dad.

(33:53):
They they showed him you knowhow to how to help build a
practice or you know how to howto survive in Chattanooga, knew
the United States and you knowI'll always be grateful to watch
them, take dad under his wing,and I think I have three mentors
that I've, you know, kind ofcling to.

(34:16):
One is James Sella.

Janis Lasmanis (34:22):
You know him.
Yeah, you know yeah.

El Lagutin (34:23):
So he's been a great mentor to me, business wise, um
, he helped me a lot, uh, whenI'm transitioned from inside
sales to outside sales.
Um, he really kind of took meunder his wing and and kind of
showed me the ropes on that.
And then, um, dan, um, he, hewas with Sprint as well.
He was out of Memphis, hepassed a few years back and he

(34:45):
was probably one of my biggestmentors.
And then I think you know, meand you being friends, I think,
the way that we raise our kidstogether and we talk about
family and family first.
I think me and you are goodmentors to each other, you know,
and I think that's helpful.

Jim Cripps (35:06):
Yeah, bouncing ideas off of somebody that you think
you know doesn't not haveexactly the same opinion as you
do, but it also is a good enoughfriend to tell you when you're
out of bounds.
Yeah, you know, because there'sa lot of people that will
disagree with you because theydon't want conflict.
Those are not your real friends.
Your real friends will call youout on your mess.

El Lagutin (35:25):
Yeah, to be older than you or they don't, you know
, and that's really not the case.
I think that if you have to besome, you have to surround

(35:46):
yourself with like-mindedindividuals that will also call
you out on your crap, right?
And so I think that's the kindof friendships that you need in
life and that turn into mentors,right?
And so I think, in today'sworld, the past few years for me
is is we've become really goodfriends.
Our wives hang out together alot, and it's the Gary Meadows,

(36:08):
um, he's probably you know theguy that I turned to.
Now, like, his kids are older.
His youngest is Lucy's age andhis oldest is 24, 25.
Um, and to see him walk throughthat life with his boys, um, has
helped me figure out how towalk through life with my boy,
right, and so, um, he he's beena great friend.

(36:29):
And um, when things aren'tgoing my way, he's the first to
call me out and be like life'snot that way, man, it's not
always going to go your way, youknow, buck up, you know.
And so it's like, um, he's beena really good mentor to me here
lately.
Um, my best friend for the past, my whole life, is Jeremy Um,

(36:50):
you know him, um, we workedtogether for a little while and
um he, he's always been a greatmentor to me.

Jim Cripps (36:57):
Well, and I think it's.
I know it's overused, it's acliche, but it goes back to that
to me.
Well, and I think it's.
I know it's overused, it's acliche, but it goes back to that
.
The mentality of things aren'thappening to me, they're
happening for me, and even thetough stuff, even the things
you've got to work through,they're the things that create
those moments that you, that youremember for the rest of your
life.
Yeah, so it's just a mentalswitch.

Virgil Herring (37:16):
It really is.
And I think mentors, peoplelike it's so important to have
for me I want to be, I want tosurround myself with people that
are either older than me or inthe place that I'm trying to be,
because they had to go throughwhere I'm going through.
And if they are, they havethings to offer.

(37:37):
And when you hear otherpeople's struggles and they're
at the place you want to be andyou don't realize all the pain
that they went through to get tothat place, then you realize
that what you're going throughis the process of what it takes.
Not like I got feet on my head,nobody wants me to rise.

(37:58):
It's like, oh, this is what ittakes to be great.
This level of perseverance,this level of grit, this level,
the level of resiliency thosethings are oftentimes easier to
hear from a person much olderthan you or somebody that's in
the place you're trying to go,because you're like, oh wow, so
it wasn't that easy for youeither.
Right Cause you make it lookeasy.

Jim Cripps (38:19):
I think too and, like we talked about, this comes
up in almost every episode youhad backing from your spouse.
You know, in that you weresupporting him making a big
change, and also when you weregrowing a clinic, he was
supporting you, and so you guysare supporting each other.
Definitely reciprocated yeah.
And so, in your opinion, youknow you guys have been together

(38:40):
.
What 20 years, right?
Just celebrate our 20thanniversary.
Well, congratulations, that'sfantastic, and you've got two
great kids, thank you.
You know Branch and.
Cass will hang out all the time.
How impactful to your life, orhow much of your success do you
think is attributed to the factthat you got the right spouse,

(39:02):
that you picked correctly andyou were?
Supporting each other.
Do you want to answer?

Miles Reidelberger (39:04):
this.
Well, I just want to point outI don't think it's necessarily
the success of the businesses.
I think it's uh, uh led to myhappiness, like if I didn't have
the right spouse.
I mean, I see what some ofthese uh couples go through and
we even say to each other likethank god, I'm happy, I, I hope
she's happy, but uh god,entering the dating scene again

(39:27):
or something like that.

Jill Reidelberger (39:28):
Well, you know sex is important and we
prioritize that in our lives.
Hey, that's, it's part of itreally and you know, I think
that we have two businesses.
But making our marriage apriority is something we said at
the beginning.
We said we said that we didn'twant to be in business together
if it meant that it was going tocompromise our marriage.
So we have to.
We always make it a priority toset time aside for ourselves.

Miles Reidelberger (39:52):
And she's better than I am, but she'll be
like no, you're spending timewith me today, and thank God she
does, because that's how itworks.
That's good, that's fantastic.

Jim Cripps (40:01):
Cause.
Yeah, that's that's how itworks, that's good, that's
fantastic.
It wasn't by design, but whenwe, when you think about people
who charge forward and peoplewho default to leaning in when
other people would give up, um,a lot of times it's because they
have a supportive spouse.
Yeah, and so for you and Jen,what do you?
What do you think?
Like, how important has thefact that you found each other

(40:23):
been to your lives?

El Lagutin (40:25):
You know, if it wasn't for Jen I will tell you
this I wouldn't be in the seatthat I am today.
I wouldn't have the life thatI've got today, Right?
So, um, you know me, I'm, I'mvery, um, I like to take chances
or I like to take risks.
Um, sometimes they're not good,Sometimes they're great, Um,

(40:46):
but if it wasn't for Jen to kindof keep me anchored down at
times, um, I, I, I definitelywouldn't be where I am today.
But if it wasn't for Jen, Ialso wouldn't be as successful
as I am today.
Right, Because there's there'sdifferent challenges that we
face that she's like we need totake this opportunity and run

(41:07):
with it, Like moving back toChattanooga, or you're not happy
in doing this day to day stuff.
Let's look at other options.
You know, I wouldn't have theeducation that I've got today
without Jennifer, Um and so, andI think our kids aren't who

(41:27):
they are if it wasn't for bothof us.
Um, so you know, I think,choosing a spouse or me choosing
Jennifer I don't ever want tosay it that way Um, because
luckily, she chose me.
I didn't get to choose her, Um,it was by luck that we were,
we've met Um and we, you knowshe picked me, uh, out of

(41:53):
everybody, and so to me thatmeans more than anything um at
all, Cause I don't want to saythat I picked her cause that's
definitely not the choice.

Jim Cripps (42:02):
You know the answer to that sure, sure, well, I
think we're both just incrediblyfortunate.
We have great families and itstarts with uh, you know great
parents that gave you afoundation and you know leading
your dad.
You're living your dad'sexample.
And then, um, and then havingthe luck and the good fortune

(42:22):
and the I say it this way yourpicker wasn't broke, or her
picker wasn't broke, and to havea spouse selection is such a
big deal to the overallhappiness of life.

Chris Neville (42:37):
I mean, I think that it's absolutely imperative
that you're finding the rightspouse to support you right.
And creating life and creatinga family is important to be able
to have a solid foundation tobuild upon right.
And I can't commend my spouse,kayla, enough to be able to
support me and my crazy ideasand my crazy.
You know my high energy andhigh, you know, mental capacity.

(42:58):
We'll call it and you know Inever thought we'll call it and
you know I never, never, neverthought we'd be where we're at
and I'm fortunate that we are.
And you know I can't.
Yeah, it's a hundred percent.
We wouldn't be able to buildanything without that foundation
.

Jim Cripps (43:11):
Well, I think we're both lucky in that regard,
because my wife will tell youI'm too much, so am I, and mine
is.
You know, emily is just steady.
And.
I think Kayla is very much thesame for you, absolutely, and
it's that balance right.

Chris Neville (43:24):
Yep, she's cool, calm and collected.
I'm the highly motivated move,move, move, go, go go.
Ask questions later, make ithappen, yeah.

Steve Price (43:34):
That's awesome man.
That's awesome Having argumentsand disagreements.
It's not necessarily a badthing.
Especially if you learn how tofight the right way, it can be
really good Um okay, pleaseexpand on that, cause I love
that.

Jim Cripps (43:45):
Nobody's ever said that before.
If you learn how to fight theright way, yeah, I mean you.

Steve Price (43:49):
You have to.
I mean, just getting anargument with somebody or having
a disagreement isn't bad,especially when and when you're
in that fight.
If you're not, if you're tryingto actually resolve conflict
and not actually attack thatperson you're in conflict with,
then you can both come out of itbetter, with a, with clear
understanding or with a pathforward that works for everybody

(44:12):
.
I mean, if you and so if youfight the right way, you know
people can come out of thatsituation in a better place that
they entered it.
Now you fight the wrong way byattacking.
If you don't care about winning, or if you don't care about
actually resolving the conflict,but all you care about is

(44:32):
causing more damage to thatperson than they cause to you,
then you're all going to lose inthat situation.
But fighting can be good forcouples if it's done correctly,
with the right mindset anddesired outcome.

Breanna Price (44:47):
You want me to tell the wine glass story.

Steve Price (44:49):
I'd love the wine glass, all right.

Breanna Price (44:52):
Oh man, humility is a that's a big part of
marriage, jeez.
So we've both been at least onthe same page of avoiding debt
for all of our marriage andknowing each other even before
knowing him.
We've both been at least on thesame page of avoiding debt for
all of our marriage and knowingeach other even before knowing
him.

Steve Price (45:04):
Even though Dave Ramsey is a curse word to you.

Breanna Price (45:06):
Yes, and the nasty B word, oh my God.
Um, but even before marriage Iuh I mean, I joined the military
.
I didn't.
I knew I knew school was athing I knew I wanted to do it.
Um, I knew school was a thing Iknew I wanted to do it.
My family was poor, we had nomoney and I knew that that was
an avenue where I could do that.
And then there was Sense ofPurpose.
That came after that, but I washomeless twice because I was so

(45:31):
desperate to avoid debt at anycost.
I was not willing to do it.
So we have the same desire toavoid being controlled by money,
even at the expense of housing.
But we're newly married, tryingto learn how we want to
communicate and how we want touse that nasty budget word and

(45:52):
how that looks for us, and I'vealways seen a budget as a way to
control someone and nobody'sgoing to control me and we had
set our budget.
We were on the same page, wewere doing our so when we set a
budget, non-negotiables for usis housing, food, tithes Um, and
we, for us, specifically, wewant to give to God before we
give to the government.

(46:13):
So that's like we've got to puteffort into making sure we
tithe um that aligns with whatour vision and our values are,
and so all of those things, allthe numbers were set, we were on
board and we both had our dailymonthly spend for our budget
and I had already spent mine, ofcourse, and I was still not
doing very well with that, andit was because I kept

(46:36):
approaching it of he was tryingto control me and he wasn't, but
I wasn't seeing that.
So we had to have a fight aboutthat.
Um, but we were in Macy's and Isaw these cute wine glasses.
They were $19.
They were these like clear withpretty crystal etching or
whatever on them and there were$19.
It does not matter.
But also we, we had gone pastwhat we agreed upon and I picked

(46:59):
it up and I said I want thesewine glasses and Steve and I got
into a fight in the store andmy best friend was like, oh my
God, I got to get out of here,cause she was still new to
knowing us at the time.
She walked away.
We didn't get the wine glasses.
I got them a few years later,out of spite, um, and then they
ended up every single one endedup getting broken somehow, while
Steve was washing them.
But but, uh, that I mean,that's a perfect example of we.

(47:25):
We had a fight about it becauseI thought he was controlling me
and, um, that's not what it was.
We were, we set, we set anintention for our life.
We set our vision.
We both agreed on numbers andthen I broke that agreement.
Um, and then a few months laterwe had to work through that
again.
And the fighting fairs reallyfighting right, fighting fairs,

(47:46):
not not attacking and havinghumility is really important.
And I will never forget thosewine glasses.

Jim Cripps (47:51):
Well, I think it taught you an important lesson,
you know, and it's it's greatthat you look back on that and I
mean, what a what a greatlesson to learn for $19.
Speaking of build a buildingstrong, you know, um, I would
say you and I both have been ona health journey, and especially
back when we first met and notlong thereafter, we were far

(48:12):
less healthy than we are today.
Yeah, absolutely.
And so, um, you know, I knowwhat that my journey has kind of
been like, but please sharewith our guests.
I know you did some arms theoryfor a while, dialing in your
diet, and it's not like lifehasn't happened.
I mean, you've gotten thrownsome serious roadblocks and
challenges and heartache alongthe way, but how's the health

(48:36):
journey?

El Lagutin (48:37):
It's going really well.
So, at my heaviest I was 255.
Um, I'm I'm down to 185, 183.
I, I've still got about 10 morepounds that I'd like to get to
do.
Um, it it's been.
It's been hard.

(48:57):
Um, I think the the the easiestpart for me was switching up my
diet.
Like, I went out, I did ketofor a long time, sure, and then
I got bored with it and so Igained a little bit of weight
back and then now I'm justtrying to watch portions now and
just try to eat smarter.

(49:18):
I don't always make the rightdecisions on that, sure, eat
smarter.
I don't always make the rightdecisions on that.
But, um, it is seeing my dad,um, go through the health
struggles that he went through.
I have promised myself that Idon't.
I don't want to do that Like Idon't.
You know, I want to enjoy lifea little bit more.

Jim Cripps (49:36):
Um, but I remember us having those conversations,
cause it was like he's a doctor,he knows better, and no, but
you can't.
He's a doctor, he knows better,no, but you can't make your
parents do anything.

El Lagutin (49:45):
Well, that, and doctors are the worst patients,
let's just be honest.
So I want to be able to enjoythat style, that kind of life,
even the older I get.
And number one is I got tiredof being the fattest dad at the
baseball field, um, I, I gottired of um.

(50:07):
When, when it was time to dothe dads versus kids, to be the
slowest dad on the field, um, Igot.
I got tired of that, you know.
And I got tired of just notbeing able to, you know, be
comfortable in my own skin, um,and so I'm trying to get to get
there.
It's still a work in progress,oh yeah.

Jim Cripps (50:27):
We're, I mean, and it will be forever?
Um, because health is.
You know, health is constantlyevolving, because we're getting
older and so we have to dothings differently.
Uh, but it's about trying toget that health span and that
lifespan to match up so youdon't end up sick the last 10
years of your life or not ableto play with your grandkids.

Chris Neville (50:48):
Health's been really important for me as
trying to continuously alwaysdevelop my own mentality and
throughout corporate world andentrepreneurial world and the
struggle and mentality that ittakes to get through those and
having resilience to get throughthose.
I kind of neglected my healthfor a long time.
Same here I think some of us do,most of us do so really just

(51:10):
being able to get backconsistent, starting slow, you
know, utilizing my friends andnetwork to be, have
accountability partners and goand create group threads where
it's like, hey, I did this today, we did this today, we did this
today.
Oh well, you're late, you knowthis, you know stuff like that.
So where, um, that's, that'sthe journey that we've been on
recently, and we're trying toclean up the remainder of our
lives right With diet andexercise, you know stuff like

(51:31):
that.
So, um, I would say, though,what's kept Kayla and I both in
shape at the way we are is yousports and movement.
We don't sit still for morethan probably two hours a day,
really, you know, and that'sprobably at nine to 11 PM for
the most part.
So it's go, go, go all the time.

Jim Cripps (51:53):
That's cool.
Back up to June 22nd of thisyear, uh you and I both uh were
heavier than we are now.
Yes and uh, we got that way onaccident, meaning we chose not
to make better choices and welet work and family and being
busy and all kinds of things beexcuses.

Quinton Horner (52:08):
And chicken wings and Mexican and bourbon,
yeah.

Jim Cripps (52:11):
Yeah, Definitely tortilla chips.
And man, we started talking.
This had been kind of early ormid-June and I said, man, why
don't you do this animal baseddiet with me and let's knock it
out?
And you jumped full on boardand any idea how much weight
you've lost?

Quinton Horner (52:32):
Maybe, maybe 30 pounds, something like that.
But that that's my MO.
Okay, I can't half anything.
No, no, all in.
It's like listen, if we'regoing to run a marathon, let's
run the marathon.
Yeah, why take two weeks to dosomething when you can do it in
one week?

Jim Cripps (52:48):
Yeah, it's like I don't want to practice it, I
want to just go do it.
That's it, yeah.
So what's next on the healthside?

Quinton Horner (52:58):
Well, I'm still doing it and I like it, the
variety of it, and you know,like you said, it's mainly I
guess it's kind of like a ketothing Try to eat under 25 carbs
a day and 200 grams of protein,which is work.
It is work, man, it's work.
It's laborious at times.
What's been your highestprotein day?

(53:20):
Probably like 250 or somethinglike that, but that's when I
just have like a bunch ofleftover meat and I'm like it's
going to spoil.
I'll just eat this bag of meatfor dinner.
You know it's depressing.
It's not much for family meals.
You know you don't sit out atthe table and you know they're
having like lasagna and I'mhaving a bag of bowl of meat
over here.

Jim Cripps (53:41):
But it is high quality meat.
It is now it is grass fed,grass finished.

Quinton Horner (53:45):
Jim and I took our relationship to a new level.
We bought a cow.
Yes, we did the same cow.

Jim Cripps (53:53):
Went to the middle of nowhere, Kentucky, to pick it
up, right.

Quinton Horner (53:55):
So you know a funny thing too.
I haven't told you this.
But Jim's also like hey man,you need to be taking these
vitamins.
Like okay, I'll take a vitamin.
He's like no, it's, he's 13.
I'm like dad gum man Like sendme a list.
He's like I'll do better thanthat, I'll put it in your Amazon
cart.
So he puts it in my Amazon card.
He like creates this page andall I it was click accept or

(54:17):
whatever.
So I did.
I take these 13 pills.
Meanwhile, I've got afive-year-old daughter and a
six-month-old son now andthey're in daycare and with that
comes germs and sicknessregularly.
So Kelly, my wife, is takingthis vitamin.
It's like three pills.
She's like Quentin, you've gotto take these pills, right,

(54:38):
because I start getting sick andit's just, it's a little bit.
You get full on sick.
You need to take these threepills.
And I'm like, ah, she's likewhat is it?
Jimmy tells you take 13 pillsand you take 13 pills.
I'm your wife telling you totake three and you won't take
them.
What kind of pull does Jim haveover you?
So that's the current battle inour house is why I don't take

(55:02):
her three pills compared to your13.
And I'm just like, babe, I'm acreature of habit.

Jim Cripps (55:06):
All right, I do the same thing to Emily.
I'm like here's your newvitamins.
And she's like, oh, okay.
Now so if we were going to dosomething huge for charity and
we were going to have acelebrity bowling match, you got
to pick four team members tobowl with you and a commentator,
and the whole point of thisthing is to raise the most money

(55:27):
for charity.
I mean, we've had some crazyones like uh miles throughout.
Uh, fred flinstone okay, bobwent with.
You know the great, uh, thegreat players from the different
eras, um, so, alive or deadcelebrity or somebody you know
who's on the team.
I think you do have some peoplethat are like I think a good

(55:50):
person, he's a bowler, he's agood bowler actually too.
He's Mookie Betts oh,absolutely, and a local guy,
that's easy right.
He just got another World Seriesring.
I think he's got three ringsnow, which is insane.

Quinton Horner (56:04):
That's, that's easy, right, like he just got
another world series ring.
He's got three rings now, whichis insane, that's right, but
that's a I mean, that's a greatone.
He's gonna get a big draw.
No clue, if they're bowlers,doesn't matter.
Uh, tiger woods, just anintriguing individual to me.

Jim Cripps (56:17):
Um, he was on virgil's, by the way.
He was on Virgil's, by the way.
Shocker, let's do Frank SinatraAnybody throughout history,
throughout history oh, okay,okay.

El Lagutin (56:38):
So JFK, okay yeah.

Jim Cripps (56:47):
That's good.

James Cripps (56:47):
Yeah, man, man, I think you gotta go you bring
people to the event, I'll bethere.

El Lagutin (56:50):
Yeah, okay, all right tiger woods and the last
one.
You're gonna laugh, but I justreally want to ask him a lot of
questions.
P Diddy, oh wow, I got to know.
I want to know the truth onthat.
I want to hear some of that.

Jim Cripps (57:10):
You get to pick a commentator.

Quinton Horner (57:15):
You know what I like?
The guy who was on Holy Moly,who's also the sportscaster guy
I forget his name, he's called afew Titans games.
Anyway, he's an NFLsportscaster guy.

El Lagutin (57:30):
I'm going to say Barack Obama.
Okay, all right.

Jim Cripps (57:33):
Barack Obama's going to commentate.

El Lagutin (57:35):
Just because I think he does very well in his public
speaking.
Okay, and he would bring in alot for the celebrity, for the
charity.

Jim Cripps (57:47):
I mean just the most live event.
Yeah, he needs somebody.
You gotta have somebody who DJKhaled, DJ Khaled.
I could just see him.
I could just see him doing it.
That'd be fun.
That'd be a lot of fun.
That's awesome If you had onebit of advice out there to give
to somebody that's watching thispodcast right now and they're

(58:09):
feeling stuck, or they'refeeling maybe that they picked
the wrong career path, or maybethat they don't have control
over how their life is going, ortheir happiness level, or maybe
their health.
Um, what is, what's the adviceyou give to them right now?

Quinton Horner (58:30):
First of all, if you're in a job that you're not
happy with, like, talk to youremployer.
I mean, they're, they're,they're people, right, they want
what's best for you, becausewhat's best for you is best for
them.
So it's good to have that openline of communication.
You know, maybe they have anidea of something else you can
do.
Maybe they, you know, willencourage you to go do something

(58:53):
else.
If they know you're miserable,they're not going to want you to
hang around Not good for officemorale.
But there's other reasons.
And the other thing is, reallydo some thinking about what it
is that is your skill set.
I mean, before you asked me twomonths ago if I wanted to be on
your podcast, I had kind ofthought about it, but just kind

(59:16):
of like a business plan oranything else.
I hadn't really written it down.
I could kind of talk about it.
But everybody has a skillset andit's not knowledge all the time
, it's not book smarts.
It may be how you go aboutdoing something.
It may be the compassion thatyou have or show something.
That's still a skillset, whatmakes you valuable in what you

(59:39):
do.
So you know, I always tellpeople too that listen when I'm,
when I'm disgruntled on things.
I mean I like to verbalize whatI don't want to call it.
I'm bitching, just a bitch.
But you know it's good to hearyourself say it sometimes.
But I encourage people thataren't, that aren't happy, like

(01:00:01):
before you go into a review andyou just complain how do you
solve it?
I mean, what's your solution?
You should know you better thananybody else.
You know better than youremployer, better than your
spouse.
You should know you, and if youcan't tell somebody how to make
better use of you, how are theysupposed to do that?

(01:00:21):
Yeah, so and that is notsomething like flipping a light
switch You're not just going tosay you know what, After dinner
tonight I'm going to sit downand I'm going to think about me
and then tomorrow I'm going tomarch right in there and we'll
make things happen.
Doesn't work that way, way.

(01:00:47):
So spend time on yourself is towhat?
What is it that makes you avalue add to somebody else?
You know it's not like now.
I've been literally within thelast two weeks I'm discovering
that mine is not engineering orlaw or anything else, that
anybody else can pick up a bookand pass a test and read.
All right, it's bigger thanthat.
It's people want to work withme because they've had a good

(01:01:11):
experience, because of the wayI've treated them, because the
way I've responded to an email,or the way that I have advised
them, or because they were usedto having the volume-based
experience and then they got adifferent experience with me,
somebody that actually took aninterest in what they were
trying to accomplish.

(01:01:31):
So none of those things areacademic, they're all just
personality.

Jim Cripps (01:01:38):
What advice do you give to somebody out there
that's listening to this rightnow, that does not have a
current rating but maybe hasailments that are affecting
their lives?
What's your number one adviceto them?

James Cripps (01:01:51):
The first thing I would do well, everybody
listening to this program thatserved in the military today or
tomorrow, go file an intent tofile first off.
If you don't even think you'vegot anything coming, file that
intent today.
Then you've got a year tosupport it.

(01:02:15):
You can get the file, fill outthe sf-180, send to to St Louis.
Get your records, see whathappened to you in the military.
You know if you've got anybuddies you can talk to them.
Try to remember.
Did you go on sick call?
If so, what for?
Was it for a sore ankle, and isthat ankle still bothering you

(01:02:39):
today?
Yeah, Does not have to becombat related, Although we
discussed if you ran into ableacher on a weekend playing
football.
That would be aservice-connected disability.

Jim Cripps (01:02:59):
If it happened during your term of service.

James Cripps (01:03:01):
If you were in the military when you ran into that
bleacher Saturday morningplaying football, let's say the
bleacher wasn't sitting there,it was a military jeep and you
ran into that jeep and bustedyour kneecap.
Now that's a combat-relatedinjury because that jeep is a
tactical vehicle.

(01:03:22):
The bleacher would be justservice-connected injury, yeah,
but if it was a tactical vehiclethat caused it, that's
combat-related.
Every injury that I got iscombat-related and I never was
in combat.
Right is combat related and Inever was in combat Right.

(01:03:44):
Dawn's would be combat relatedbecause it was Agent Orange and
instrumentality of war thatcaused our disabilities.

Jim Cripps (01:03:52):
What would you say is the most powerful advice you
could give somebody that needsto make a decision today?

Anna DiCarlo (01:03:58):
Hmm, that needs to make a decision today.
Hmm, I think it goes back totaking a pause and whatever
you're doing, and if it's thisdecision on whether to move
forward on something, I wouldask self, just yourself, because
it doesn't matter who elseknows, but ask yourself why I do

(01:04:18):
want to do it and why I don'twant to do it.
And a lot of people aren't intouch with themselves to
understand, I think, that fullprocess.
So sometimes writing a page ofpositives and negatives right,
being able to physically seethose oh, I have more positives

(01:04:39):
than negatives.
Let's go ahead and do it.
But I think really, it justcomes down to practicing the
pause and really examiningyourself on why you didn't take
the leap, why you're notstarting that new venture.
Are you afraid?
Why are you afraid?
Is it a thought process?
Is it?
What is it?

(01:04:59):
You know what I mean.
And if it's a thought offailure, who are you failing?
Who are you failing now if youdon't try?

Virgil Herring (01:05:07):
And it's so.
When you're watching somebodystruggle and you're delivering
that message, you know it sucksit sucks for you and it sucks
for them, but at the end of theday, when it's done through love
, for them.
But at the end of the day, whenit's done through love maybe not

(01:05:27):
immediately, but at some point,that moment will be the
keystone that ends upcatapulting them out of the mess
that, into their next versionof success, and they will never
forget it.
It, I would say, even if themessage isn't delivered
perfectly, which I would alwayssay, there's such thing as a
perfect delivery but if you'redoing the best that you can this

(01:05:50):
is one of another hallmark ofmine be the best that you can
with what you know, and whateverthat is is what it is.
You know, bobby Knightdelivered a different message
than John Wooden, but theirplayers love them just the same.
Oh yeah.

Jim Cripps (01:06:08):
Those players went there for that coach because
that's what they needed.
That's exactly right.
You know I love it, and Godputs us in people's lives at the
right time and we just have tohave the courage to do the right
things.
Yeah, absolutely, Team.
Is Jim Cripps here with thecharge for podcast?
I just want to tell you I loveyou, I appreciate you listening,
I appreciate you forsubscribing and sharing the

(01:06:30):
charge for podcast with peopleyou know and you love, because
that's what we're here for.
We are here to share theamazing stories, the things that
people have been through, theways that they were able to
improve their life, so that youcan take little nuggets from
theirs and help improve yourstory and be better tomorrow

(01:06:51):
than you were today.
I hope that this is the toolyou needed at the right time and
that you find value in theamazing guests that we bring
each and every week.
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