January 9, 2025 • 52 mins
Skin to Soul: The Healing Journey with Anna DiCarlo – Part 2
In the conclusion of our powerful two-part series with Anna DiCarlo, founder of La Belle Naturelle, we dive deeper into the transformative power of communication, decision-making, and personal growth. Anna shares her unique perspective on thriving through discomfort, the value of a positive mindset during setbacks, and the profound impact of supportive relationships—both personal and professional.
This episode highlights Anna’s vision for expanding her business into the spiritual and educational realms, emphasizing the importance of sharing knowledge for a better world. From the unseen energy in relationships to the potential of remote energy healing, Anna offers a glimpse into how aligning personal values with professional goals can drive meaningful transformation.
We explore overcoming fear, breaking negative patterns, and embracing self as keys to unlocking new opportunities in life and business. Packed with personal anecdotes and actionable insights, this episode is an inspiring call to charge forward into the new year with resilience, purpose, and gratitude.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are the cap for whatever goes on in your store,
in your company, in yourdistrict, in your household,
however excited you are, whatyou believe is possible,
whatever that threshold is.
Now I have a special guest foryou today.
(00:21):
She is near and dear to myheart Ms Ana DeCarlo.
She is a wife, a mother, abusiness owner for you today,
she is near and dear to my heart, miss Ana DeCarlo.
She is a wife, a mother, abusiness owner for the past 12
years, supplying local people,and even some not local people,
with just the perfect servicefor them.
Please welcome Miss Ana DeCarlo.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
But I want to do more , like there is more to what's
happening and that's where thespiritual stuff comes in.
Um, and I'm like I want to dothis but I don't necessarily
feel like people should have tobe charged to find themselves or
(00:56):
to heal, like I, I.
This concept cannot comethrough in my mind.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I am through and through, I'm a capitalist and I
understand money and I did notunderstand when I came to see
you and you're like this is adonation based and it's still to
this day.
It still perplexes me.
I love your heart and yourspirit in it.
I have trouble making it makesense in my head, but that's
(01:23):
that's why I love your heart andyour spirit in it.
I have trouble making it makesense in my head, but that's why
I have my business and you haveyour business.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You get out of those slumps by changing your mindset,
by changing your thoughtprocesses, by not accepting
defeat.
Yeah, you may be set back,that's okay.
There's a million ways to doone thing, a million different
ways.
That's why I said allmodalities are needed, all
things are needed.
(01:51):
In general, it's just whateveris good, better or best.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
You chose to just put one foot in front of the other.
You had $200 to get it startedand here you are, a dozen years
later later, and you're crushingit.
I don't remember if it'sHuberman or Gary Brekka that
said that.
You know, um, it's this pursuitof comfort that is killing
(02:16):
people.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Absolutely Cause uncomfortability.
With uncomfortability comesgrowth, comes opportunity, comes
all these different things, andeven in the heart of LBN, you
know, facing shutdown or facingwhatever it was.
Okay, let me navigate this.
How do I change it so that way?
(02:37):
It grabs people again?
Right, and I'm currentlythinking of doing a school type
aspect for what I do, and I'vehad some people like oh well,
you're going to give away allyour secrets, am I though?
Because it's kind of like arecipe with mom.
Right, like you have the recipe, but when you make it it
doesn't taste like mom made it,like I'm not here to gatekeep.
(02:59):
I want you to know, I want youto learn, I want you to open up.
It stops that mundane.
Every day is the same.
It gets you out of that box, itgets you thinking, and then,
all of a sudden, one thoughtleads to another thought and
leads to another thought, andyou go from, all of a sudden, a
negative aspect to a positiveone, and then you hold, you
change your whole life Likethat's.
(03:21):
That is the point.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Well, I think, um, so that is a very mature way to
look at it.
And, uh, those that haveencouraged you to gatekeep, that
is a very immature way to lookat it, because if you look at
the, the people that are doinghuge things and are crushing it,
whether we're talking aboutMichael Jordan, whether we're
talking about Elon Musk, whoeveris the top in their field, they
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will give away their tips,their tricks, their secrets.
They make them public knowledge, and it's because they still
know that they're going to do itbetter.
Or, if you take those tools andyou improve their life, it's
because they gave you the tools,it's because they were a part
of it.
Or, on the off chance that youbecome the new master and you
are.
You are, you know, top atwhatever that is.
(04:07):
Yeah, they were a part of that.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Absolutely.
You're changing the world.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So, you know, giving it away, giving giving that,
that tool away to the nextperson so that they can improve
their life.
Again, it kind of goes to towhat we try to do here.
It's it's it's bringingsomebody else's struggle,
somebody else's, uh, a messageof triumph and how they worked
through it and how it wasn'teasy and it wasn't handed to
them, and maybe the personlistening can take just one
(04:35):
nugget and help improve theirday or their life.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Absolutely.
I mean, there's billions ofpeople across the world.
You don't think that?
You know, by me giving away allof a sudden, I'm gonna lose
like 50 people.
Okay, what's?
What's?
50 people to another millionlike?
That's right, it's okay,everything will be okay.
Um, so yeah, that's yeah I loveit now.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Um how long have y'all been married?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
oh god, I'm really bad at this.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
He told you to ask me this didn't he, he did not, he
did not.
I promise.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I want to say 16 years, okay.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
All right.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I think we're going on 16 or 17.
Okay, yeah, don't ask me when Igot married.
Please don't ask.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That's all right.
So, along the way.
So one of the topics that comesup in a lot of our episodes is
just how important having theright spouse is to overall
happiness and success, whetherthat's in business, whether
that's in just in life, whetherit's with kids.
But I do think you go throughseasons in your marriage and, um
(05:45):
, hopefully, the majority ofthem are growth and that you're
you're getting closer to beingthe person that you were
supposed to be and what you'rehere to do.
And, um, you know, I do thinkthat that's a much healthier way
to look at it than, um,somebody that just kind of
buries it and doesn't talk aboutit and then all of a sudden,
it's oh, we want a divorce.
(06:06):
Well, I mean, that couldprobably have been avoided if we
would have talked about howthis journey was changing and
how the future looked and whatwe dream to do and uh, those
types of things.
Um, so, you know, I think,whether we're talking about
communication with soul orwhether we're talking about
communication with our partner,uh's, just, you know, us saying
it out loud, um is really usadmitting to whatever that,
(06:31):
whatever that next thing is well.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Again, a lot of it goes back to I don't feel seen,
or I don't feel heard, or Idon't feel acknowledged.
So in those moments, even ifhe's having an adult tantrum or
if I'm having an adult tantrumright, because I still have them
I mean I am human.
So, um, it'll be one of thoselike, are you not feeling seen
right now?
(06:53):
Talk to me about it.
Like how do I make you feelseen?
How do I acknowledge you?
And that was the thing too, likeI was really sick, which I'm
still getting over.
I was really sick.
I had pneumonia right A weekbefore Thanksgiving.
Even up until now, like I stillhave a little bit of fluid in
that right lung.
So he was taking care of merelentlessly.
(07:17):
My youngest had it as well, sohe was taking care of both of us
.
I mean lunch, breakfast, what?
Now?
I wasn't really eating.
I ate maybe twice in a week buthe was constantly checking on
us what is your temperature,what's your oxygen?
Cause my oxygen was dropping.
At one point it was 80%.
So, like he's like I reallyshould take you to the hospital,
(07:39):
um, but I, I wouldn't go.
So I'm stubborn like that.
And again.
I have a job to do, they're notgoing to let me die, it's fine,
so, um anyway.
So afterwards he had beenfeeling like all of a sudden,
when everybody got better, wejust kind of started doing our
own thing again and I went backto school.
(08:00):
I went back to work Like it wasjust routine school.
I went back to work Like it wasjust routine.
And one day he stopped me.
He was like I feel really notappreciated and I was like oh,
okay, let's talk about it.
I said you're not feeling seenor acknowledged.
I had told you I thank you fromthe bottom of my heart for
(08:20):
taking time to take care of meand love me and take care of me
when I couldn't take care ofmyself.
What else do I need to do tomake you feel appreciated?
And he's like well, everybody'sjust off doing their own thing,
Like it's almost like we're noteven a family, like Belle's
doing her own thing, I'm justdoing her own thing.
And I was like okay, so you'reasking for family time, is that
(08:45):
what you're asking for?
And he was like yeah, I guessI'm asking for family time.
I was like, okay, that'sdifferent.
But I've said I was veryappreciative.
So if you're telling me youstill don't feel appreciated, I
need to know what your needs are.
That's a totally separate thingthan you know me actually not
(09:09):
saying anything and we're justlike blowing you off and all
these things.
So I think that communicationis important.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Well, and I think it's both ways.
I think it's important that weall acknowledge that we're not
mind readers, and neither isanybody else.
That part, you know, um,because there are things that
our spouses or our kids orwhatever, there's an expectation
that's not communicated, andthen nobody can live up to that.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Wait, wait, did you just say expectation?
What do I say about expectation?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Oh, I get it.
I get it.
I'm just saying that.
But in the world today, peoplewill have it painted in their
head how it's supposed to go.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And they haven't told anybody that that's how they
want it to go, and then they'llbe upset when it doesn't go that
way.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Well, expectation always leads to disappointment.
You know that.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Always there's a difference between boundaries
and expectations.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
We've had that conversation, we have we have.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So, if you will elaborate on that, because
there's somebody out there thatneeds to hear that today, so
boundary and expectation,expectation is when, just like
you said, you have this thoughtin your mind oh, this is going
to go this way.
Like, let's say, for instance,you have a surprise for somebody
, you're like oh my God, they'regoing to love it, they're going
to flip out when they see it,they're going to scream, they're
going to jump, they're going tobe so excited.
(10:26):
So you give them a present andthey open it and they're like
wow, this is so cool, thanks somuch.
And all of a sudden, you getthat blow of well, didn't you
like it?
Like, aren't you excited Right,excited right.
(10:48):
And you try to get all excitedfor them and they're like yeah,
it's great thanks so much.
Disappointment like oh yeah,right, whereas you have a
boundary.
Boundary would not be giftrelated, but that was just an
easy one to pull out sureboundary would be like um
boundary always has actionfollowing it.
So if something really bothersyou let's say you don't like
one-on-one confrontations andpeople try to get you to do this
(11:11):
one-on-one confrontation,you're like I'm not doing it
right.
You follow it with an action.
You walk away, you take abreath, you whatever it always
comes with an action becauseit's your boundary, it's what
you're not willing to do underany circumstance, or not willing
to accept, and so you have anaction that precedes it.
So that's the main differencebetween expectation and boundary
(11:34):
.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Okay, okay, I like it .
What are you excited about?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Oh God, I'm excited about everything.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
So what you're doing now, obviously.
So I think we go ahead and talkabout the new business, Do it?
So you know, a couple of timeswe've talked, you know, while
I've come in for Reiki session,because you know I'm passionate
about business and helpingpeople grow their business and
that kind of thing and a coupleof times you've opened up and
been like hey, what do you thinkabout this?
(12:05):
Or you know, I'm thinking aboutgrowing this and I love that,
Um, and in my head, as acapitalist, um, you know, I'm
thinking you want to grow the,uh, LaBelle, natural side of the
business because that'sscalable, Right, Yep, the
(12:26):
business, because that'sscalable, right.
And um, because we are twodifferent people and you do a
totally different thing for theworld, You're like no, no, no,
this is the future.
I'm going to scale the notscale, that's the wrong word.
I'm going to lean heavier into,uh, the spiritual side, the
Reiki, the healing, uh,lymphatic, all the things.
And I'm like, okay, but in myhead I'm in it, which I think I
(12:48):
said this out loud that's theside of the business that you
can't scale, you can't multiplyyourself.
And you were like I know, butit's what I'm passionate about,
it's what I'm supposed to do.
And so we've got, and we justcame up with a new name and it
was just it, just.
I'm not going to say it came outof thin air, but it was pulled
(13:09):
to you and I wrote it down.
Unseen Harmony.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So what can we expect from Unseen Harmony?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So with Unseen Harmony, I really want to.
Well, it's everything unseen.
First off, let's talk about thename.
Yeah, because the name is superunique.
Right, you can't see your lymphsystem, you can't.
When I do acupressure, youcan't see the toxins being
released and the fresh oxygenand blood coming back in and for
Reiki, you cannot see theenergy flowing Like you can feel
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it.
You can't see it, or mostpeople can't anyway, I don't
want to say everybody.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
But most people can't .
So you know it's unseen, butwith all those things you
harmonize your body, right.
You're doing your lymph system,so you're activating that
physical side.
You're doing acupressure soyou're getting rid of toxins.
You're doing spiritual whichnobody recognizes but everybody
believes in, because everybodyhas faith and believes, you know
(14:07):
, in god or a higher power, orif they're not christian or
they're not catholic, they'rebelieving in something else, but
either way there's always ahigher power, right.
So you believe in energy, right.
And so, with unseen harmony andeverything being unseen, the
harmonized, I really do want togrow that aspect of it.
(14:28):
I want to be able to.
I don't know if donate my timeis the correct way to say it,
but definitely open it up tomore people.
I already travel for what I do.
I've gone to Alaska for it.
I'm going to Las Vegas.
I've gone in Florida and donepeople there, um.
So it's just kind of opening upthat gateway and saying, okay,
(14:52):
how do we make this work Right?
And donation for travel is, youknow, if I'm going to a
client's house, like I've beento Franklin, I've gone to
Murfreesboro, like I've done allthose, I've gone to clarksville
still all donation based I justsay, hey, please keep in mind,
I'm traveling two hours to you.
Or hey, keep in mind, I'mtraveling this, whatever, but I
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don't put a minimum on it.
I don't do anything, I just hey,please keep in mind sure as far
as traveling to differentstates, I don't know what that
looks like yet.
I really don't.
That's just me being honest.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
However, I will say this the right people will come
and I will always be taken careof.
That's right, Literally.
So I keep being pulled to Texas.
I mean, I'm talking everywhere.
Texas is coming up on my phone.
I'm not even talking about itout loud this is probably one of
the few times I've said it outloud but it's coming up on my
phone.
It's coming up on my I meaneverywhere people I talk to
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though oh yeah, my family'scoming in from Texas.
I'm like, oh my God, you know.
So I keep being pulled and keepseeing Texas, for whatever
reason.
So I feel like that's my nextplace to go.
But I want to be able to growthat side and help whoever I
need to help, wherever they'reat.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
You don't have to be at a certain stage in your life,
you just have to realize, oh, Ineed, there's something more
missing from me, like I need tocome back to self.
It's really all it is.
And I've had clients come to meand they're like okay, I want
to come back to self.
And I'm like, so I'll ask a fewquestions, just kind of like
trying to see where they're at.
I'm like no, not me, you'regoing to need to go see Christy
(16:32):
first, right?
Or you're going to need to seeMichelle first and then we'll
talk.
And they're like well, whycan't you see me now?
You're a little too unhealedbecause some of the things I'm
going to say they're going totrigger you and I'm not here to
hurt, I'm here to help.
That's right.
So never see somebody if Idon't think they'll benefit from
what I have to offer.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah Well, just a few months ago, um, and I don't
know if you saw the episode withuh Carissa and Amber from uh
home front builders.
Okay was, was, was, really kindof trying to correct our path.
Um, so I come in that morningand I keep in mind Carissa has
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five children and her husband isin special forces, so he's
deployed.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
And so she has a mountain of work.
Plus she owns a business and isa partner in a business.
Plus she owns a business and isa partner in a business.
Add to that, amber is herbusiness partner.
She has two businesses.
And so they come in and, uh, weget 20 minutes in and Amber is
very uncomfortable it's not herscene, um, and I felt bad for.
(17:42):
But I looked down 18 minutes inand we're not recording anymore
and I just bought a brand newmemory card.
So I was like, no, so we stop.
I apologize, I don't know howlong we've been not recording
and we go back into it and werecord a little over an hour and
(18:03):
she's better, not, I mean,she's still, you know, it's
still uncomfortable for her.
And I realized, as we'rewrapping up, it's not recording
anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Nope, okay.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So they head home and I find out that both times it
recorded a minute and 18 seconds.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Interesting, no idea why?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
So now I call and I apologize.
Ladies, I know you took, youknow the day you came down all
these things.
You know, if you're willing tocome back down, I will figure
out what the problem is and wewill get this resolved.
So two weeks later they comeback down.
Oh, and to make matters eveneven more work, or escalated,
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carissa was just six weeks fromhaving her last baby.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
So geez yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And.
But now Chris is a ball ofenergy.
I mean, she is fantastic.
And so they agreed to come backdown in a week or two.
So two weeks later they comeback in.
I've replaced the memory card.
It was a defective memory cardand when I tell you she was a
different person.
It was like daylight and dark.
She went from uncomfortable,didn't want to be here, wanted
(19:17):
to be a part of it, but wasn'tsure what her part was to.
She probably talked 60% of thetime.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
And so we talked about.
You know what happened and shegoes about.
You know what happened and shegoes.
Jim, you don't understand.
About five minutes after youcalled to let us know that it
didn't record, my transmissionwent out in my relatively new
car.
We're stuck on the side of theroad and I lost it.
It was the straw that broke thecamel's back.
I couldn't take it anymore.
(19:45):
So many things had lined upthat it just it felt
overwhelming.
And Carissa had a friend thatdid Reiki and energy and all
those things, but she was in alike, she was in a different
state at the time and so Ididn't even know you could do
these things remote.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Um, that, can we come back to that, I want to talk
about that, but yeah, go aheadwith your story.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
So she puts her on the phone with her and, you know
, she breaks down.
They go through everything.
Fast forward.
Two weeks later, amber comes inhere and she is a different
person.
She is upbeat, she is vibrant,she talks 60% of the time.
I mean, and it was like theuniverse was going no, no, no,
(20:30):
this is.
We're going to roadblock thisuntil the right person is in
that seat.
So talk to me about remotesessions.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, so virtually it happens the same way.
It's just like Wi-Fi on yourphone.
You trust your Wi-Fi comesacross right.
You trust you have Wi-Fi onyour computer.
You know you're walking aroundin the middle of a mall or
middle of wherever, and yourphone still works.
Energy has no limits If it.
If it's limit, it's becauseyou're limiting it.
So either way, energy flows nomatter what.
(20:58):
And I do do virtual sessions.
My farthest one is Alaska, butI have them all over Virginia.
I've had, you know, people inOhio, I have people all over.
So how that works is youliterally just two different
ways.
One for me personally, you canjust send a picture at the time
I'll be able to connect to youalmost instantaneously.
Or two you can be FaceTime withme and we can go through as if
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you're just on the bed, like anormal session.
Um, some people prefer thatbecause then they feel like
they're actually having thatmoment, right.
But I've had people send mepictures and they're like you
felt like you were in the roomand I'm like right, because I
was like you know, it's just,energy doesn't have limits, it
just doesn't.
And I mean that's the law ofphysics, it's, you can look it
(21:44):
up scientifically.
I mean you know what I mean.
You just can't stop energy.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
So so in my head it is like the x-men and uh, like
xavier, you know, he puts on thehelmet and all of a sudden he's
in the room with a person.
Yeah, um, but uh, yeah, I, Iwould have been a little like, I
think in.
For me it needs to be in person, but clearly, based on the
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results that I've seen, I meanit works and it's one of those
things.
It works if you are open to itworking.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Just open to it.
But even if you're like, oh, Idon't believe this is not going
to work, I guarantee you I willstill get something out of it.
So it just depends if your bodyis willing.
Not even you consciously cause.
You know, conscious worksdifferent than subconscious, and
that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
It does, it does, and you know, um, one of the things
that I find interesting aboutmy sessions is, you know, we, we
walk through the colors that Isee and the you know the, the
things that I'm experiencingduring the process.
Yeah, Um, yeah, it's just, ifyou're out there, if you're
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listening, uh, you just gotta gotry it for yourself.
I mean so, uh, we'll, we'll dothis more in detail in a few
minutes, but how does somebodyget in touch with you?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
So, um, there's several different ways they can
get ahold of me.
Um, through my calendar Ialways say it wrong but that
calendar so it's uh.
It's really long.
I should probably think aboutshortening it now, but it's uh,
wwwcalendly C-A-L-E-N-D-L-Ycom,and then the slash and La
(23:30):
Labelle Naturelle one.
And it's not Labella Naturelle,it's not Labella, oh my God, no
, it's Labelle Naturelle.
There you go N-A-T-U-R-E-L-L-E,but anyway.
But the best way to do it is ifyou have Facebook, which most
people have Facebook nowadays.
Go to Facebook, follow LaBelleNaturelle storefront and I post
(23:54):
all different things that I'mdoing A lot of times.
There's products on there, butthere's also the link to be able
to go and do it.
Or you can go to my website,which is probably the easiest
one shoplbncom.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I could have shown that that one's really easy,
right.
So shop LBNcom.
I could have shut it.
That was really easy.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Right, so shop LBNcom , and then it says services
offered.
You can actually get in touchwith anybody of our group in
that area as well, um, and soyou can get ahold of Michelle,
you can get ahold of Christy orme, and again, I don't just do
Reiki, you know, I do thelymphatic facial which helps
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drains the lymph nodes withinthe body, um, and then it helps
with your sinuses andeverything's all connected.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Even the shape of your face even the shape of your
face.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
That look, yours was a great picture too.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Well, and I found myself, um, because I think very
selfishly, if time was not aconsideration, I would have you
do a lymphatic facial on metwice a week.
So, especially having been sickthe last few days, I found
myself like I would do what Icould remember you doing and
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would instantly feel better.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
And they're all connected and I don't think
people give enough, you know,appreciation to their lymph
system and that's the only partof your body that you can't pump
on your you know that doesn'tpump by something else.
It's not pumped by your heart,your muscles or anything.
You have to do it yourself.
So um and it, and it's a greatimmunity booster, like it's
amazing.
But that and then acupressure,and then you know I have the
Opus sound bed that does nottravel with me.
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I just want to be clear, causeI have had people ask me that
Can you bring that bed with you?
I can't.
It's over a hundred pounds, itstays where it's at and doesn't
move.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
And it's very expensive.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It is a very expensive machine, but it's
totally worth it.
Um, so if they can make it outto the shop, great.
If they can't listen, we gotother modes, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Um, but yeah so now and you're adding you're adding
lymphatic uh massage.
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
So not lymphatic massage, it's just going to be
lymphatic drainage for the body.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Um, and there's a difference between that because,
uh, with massaging, it's, youknow you, you have to be massage
therapist and there's there'sthings that go into that.
And lymphatic drainage is alittle bit different.
You can use tools, just like Iuse for your face, you know Um,
but it's, I am currentlytraining for that and I'll be
working with Michelle when Ifinally get done with that.
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So, um, fantastic, yeah, in herclinic.
So it'll be, it'll beinteresting.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Well, and I think that it's um.
So, as somebody to clear upsomething we talked about a
little bit, like a little bitago, you said you know, somebody
had um, uh, a prejudice, ifthat's what we want to call it,
towards um Michelle's clinicbecause it was part of her house
.
Yeah, and I can tell you I've,I've gone to several places for
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ozone therapy, Some that are inbusiness parks, some that are in
standalone buildings, and atthe end of the day, it's about
the practitioner and what theydo and how they do it, and I'm
glad she's there.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, and her clinic's, really.
I mean, it's literally set uplike a clinic, so I mean she's
got all the approvals that sheneeds for she's got everything.
And it's that again, thatmindset Well, we're scared of
things that we don't know ordon't understand.
Right, to try to understand it,versus just jump at being
(27:28):
judgmental or really using thatside of you that I'm scared,
that egotistical side.
Right, the ego is only there toprotect you and keep you safe.
So as soon as something feelsweird and off, our ego steps in
and go.
I don't know about that, right,but we really don't have a
reason.
So when I asked that one clientwhat's the difference between a
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doctor's office and hers she'slicensed she didn't really have
an answer for me, because thenit made her think like, oh well,
crap, like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
She's got the licensing for it, so what really
makes a difference?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And it really does look like a doctor's office when
you walk in.
Oh yeah, it does.
The only difference, in myopinion, is you don't sit in a
waiting room for 45 minutes pastyour time slot, while you're
waiting for them in someundisclosed location.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, Me and my husband always have a joke
whenever they go to.
You know if they ever go to thepediatrician which is few and
far between but he'll be like,okay, in the first waiting room
and he'll text me in the secondwaiting room, cause you know you
always sit there for anotherlike 45 minutes in the real room
.
So yeah, but here youdefinitely don't have that at
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Michelle's.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
That's right.
Um, what do you think is thebiggest misconception about the
natural products, about thenatural products?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Oh, geez.
Okay, that's a good question.
So, on the natural productrealm, if it's in a store it has
to have a chemical and a lot ofpeople don't realize that.
And so if you look laws and ofcourse they may have changed now
, but I'm speaking on when I didthe research.
Um, it was 75% of the producthad to be natural to be called
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natural, and then you could useliterally the worst chemical you
could possibly put on your body.
For the rest of it For organicI think it was 93 or 94% had to
be natural and the rest had tobe whatever you wanted, right?
So you put it in that aspect,you could have the most cancer
causing substance in there.
But if you had 70 some percentof it natural, then it's totally
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fine, right?
So I think the biggestmisconception is people don't
actually do research.
And I know that's notnecessarily a misconception, but
if you were to sit and actuallylook at the ingredients and
that's the thing, I have fulldisclosure.
So you go on my site and youlook at the ingredients, that's
what you get.
There's no, oh yes, we'readding this and this.
Sometimes they change becauseproduct availability or organic.
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Getting the product to me issometimes hard.
Especially after COVID that washard.
I had to do what I could in thebest, whatever.
But I get every manufacturingsheet so I know how it's made
and know how it's processed.
People don't do that and so Ithink no matter what good,
better, best, there's alwayssomething that there's going to
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be better for Do your research.
You can afford what you canafford, but no matter what, do
your research.
I had a client one time.
They're like do you make talosoap?
Because you know talo is a newbig thing, just like goat's milk
soap, right.
So like do you make talo soap?
Um, yes, because you need a fatin your soap as the binder yeah
(30:40):
.
And I was like and so I don'tuse palm oil, so that's bad for
the environment, it's all thesethings.
It's a cheap version, whatever.
And I was like so, yes, my, mysoap is maybe tallow, yeah, but
like, just tallow, um no,because then it would be so hard
that you wouldn't be able to doanything with it.
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You have to have, you know,your, your moisturizing, your
oils, your whatever, and we'rekind of getting off base here.
But your butters, your oils,you need all that to make the
soap.
So that way it's the correct pHbalance for your skin, which is
a seven or eight pH.
And they're like well, I don'tknow, I get this tallow soap
from you know wherever, blah,blah, blah.
And I'm like okay, there's moreto it than that, it's not just
(31:23):
tallow.
You know, it's explaining thisthing, the people, the marketing
behind it is oh well, it'sTalos soap, okay, well, you
can't.
You know that doesn't itdoesn't compute.
It can't just be that right.
So it's like how muchinformation are we actually
disclosing to people?
How much research are youactually doing?
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And when you're requestingsomething, if somebody has more
information to give it, justlisten for a second.
You know anything that goeswith everything with Reiki.
I mean, everybody's Reiki isdifferent.
You will never go to onepractitioner.
That's always the same.
Right, you go to me, it's goingto be different than Michelle.
If you go to Michelle, it'sgoing to be different than the
next Reiki person.
Everybody is different in whatthey do do, what you're pulled
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to do.
But the expectation part of itis you will always be
disappointed when you're lookingfor a certain something and not
getting the result that youwant the open-mindedness, I
think is the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I love it.
Um, how much of yours ends upbeing education?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Oh To my clients.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Like giving education to them.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Well, you know, I think and we've talked about a
lot of different things, likeyesterday- you know you actually
text and I was pulling intoLibertas Cryo to try to get rid
of some of the funk that I hadgoing on with getting sick and
you know I would say 80% of whatthey do is educate people
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because they don't understandthe services that they offer and
what the benefits are and thosetypes of things.
So, whether we're talking aboutReiki, lymphatic or the natural
products, how much of your timedo you think you spend
educating people?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
A lot of time.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
A lot of time.
Yeah, for first time Reikiclients.
I normally schedule them fortwo hour sessions because the
first section of it is literallyjust explaining what I'm doing.
It's a new concept and I wantto make sure everybody's clear
and that there's no expectationsheld there, Right it?
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works best when you're openminded and and just okay, let's
go um.
But I think that across theboard education is, or the lack
of education has, limited somany people in their thought
process that they just gowherever they need to go or
being told to go for that moment, and then they regret their
decision and it's like no, youstill had a choice, you know,
(33:52):
and you chose wrong.
So how do we fix it?
Right?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Make another choice.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Absolutely.
You make a different choice.
So I say, yeah, go with.
Go with whatever you want to goto, whatever you're pulled with
.
Just do your research.
Be open to what people have tosay.
You can still say no, yeah, youknow.
After a whole explanation youstill be like, don't think
(34:18):
that's for me Cool.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Peace out.
Send somebody else my way, well, and so on that same note.
Yeah, so two times ago I didthe sound bed and, uh, had done
it several times before, alwayshad great experiences, and this
one track just I did not jivewith it.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Nope, you sure didn't .
Speaker 1 (34:37):
And even so much so that when, when I got up, you
were like oh no, like whathappened?
And I was like it was rough.
And you were like why didn'tyou tell me to stop it?
And I was like, cause I keptthinking that maybe I was
supposed to work through this orthat there was a purpose for it
.
And you were like you can't endthat way.
So you put on a different track.
And you know, I left right asrain, um.
(34:58):
But you were like why didn'tyou, why didn't you tell me to
stop it?
And I was like I was just goingwith it.
And you were like well then,you were choosing to keep going
with it and you were exactlyright.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
But I think that's in all parts of our life Like we
can choose, like we always havea choice, even when we don't
feel like we have a choice,let's just say it is something
that you have to go through.
We'll speed up.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Okay, wait a minute, we're not just going to push
through.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,hold on, let me back you up.
So I agree with you.
Make a different choice.
The push through aspect, nowwait, that's gonna get a lot of
people in trouble.
Okay, um, pushing through, we,we forget steps, so we don't
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acknowledge the emotions thatwe're going through.
All the things.
Here's thing Even if you don'tlike a choice, it doesn't make
it less of a choice, right?
Oh, yeah, so, just like myhusband.
Well, we have bills to pay.
We have this, right.
Your other choice is you get adifferent job in a way that you
(36:04):
want to live and how you wantyour life to look, and it will
happen for you.
Right, and I always go back toum, this was years ago, but when
COVID was in full swingeverybody was losing their jobs,
right?
My husband uh, there was like200 people.
He was one of the last ones outof all those people to lose his
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job, because they loved himthat much.
But I knew it was coming, notbecause it was COVID, but
because of his actions.
Every day, all his thoughtswere always negative.
Every day he had something thatwas not right.
Right, and I'm like, why don'tyou quit?
Why don't you quit?
He wouldn't quit and I saidyou're going to lose your job,
(36:46):
like you're going to lose yourjob.
He wouldn't quit and I saidyou're going to lose your job.
Like you're going to lose yourjob.
And he's like why would I losemy job?
I said because of how you'reacting, you're already putting
out there that you don't want it, right.
So when he lost his job, Iwasn't angry, I wasn't saddened,
I knew it was coming and I said, okay, probably not the best
(37:11):
thing I should have said, butI'm still human.
I was like told you.
So I mean, I told you this wascoming and so it happened right
before Thanksgiving.
So he had no job forThanksgiving or Christmas and
you know, we were solely relyingon, on my income.
I was making through thebusiness and, um, we were fine,
always taken care of, like Isaid, and he got the job that he
has now.
And I tell him the same thingI'm like your other option is to
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find a job that you want andblah, blah, blah.
You're choosing to stay whereyou are.
Just because you don't like thechoice doesn't make it less of
one.
It's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
People don't want to talk about it or realize it
Right, but I mean, that's how wedeal with things.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
That's how some people may deal with it.
That's not how I deal with it.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Well, no, I'm saying.
I'm saying if we have toaddress it, if we're going to
deal with it, oh yeah.
And so uh, put it in the cornerand not looking at it.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Right, right, exactly .
And that same thing withchoices, right.
So that's where I sit with that.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I love it, yeah.
So, um to that same point.
Yeah, because I used to, and Iknow you.
I know you already know this,so I'm one of those people that
has a hard time drawing thatline between who I am and what I
do.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Uh-huh, I'm getting better at it.
We talk about that.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
I'm getting better at it, yes, um, but that's how I
used to size things up.
Not that I, not that I don'tstill uh, but that line of
between who I am and what I do,that's.
That's not as blurry as it usedto be, um, but you know, I used
to spend an absorbent amount oftime with my team.
I trained every personcompany-wide, in person, every
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single month, and most peoplethought it was crazy for that Um
, but the reason I did it is,more often than not, I had
people that took what I gavethem and built upon it, and so I
always liken it to um.
If you were the first caveman orcavewoman that discovered fire
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and you brought fire to aneighboring group and they let
it go out, and so the next timeyou came by, you had to give
them fire again, and you had togive them fire again.
It wears on you.
But if you came by and they hadshared fire with more people
because you had shared fire withthem, well then it.
Then it fills your, well, andnow you, now you're, now you're
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fired up again because you'veseen what they've done with it.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
And.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I think.
I think that in that samespirit it's you want to help
people so that then they can goand make their life better and
then help more people.
All right, so somebody outthere right now is thinking
about starting a business.
They've done their research,They've they've overanalyzed
this thing, They've got morethan $200 or they've got less
than $200, but they keep findingexcuses as to why they don't do
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it.
What is the best advice you canpossibly give them?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Why wouldn't you?
Why wouldn't you?
There, you go If you've got themoney, you've got the time.
And I had a discussion about.
It wasn't about business orstarting business or anything,
but I had a client one time whowas like explaining to me why
they don't do things.
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He was like I've had all thesethoughts of all these different
businesses I could start and Ihaven't yet.
And I said, well, why not?
He said because I'm caution,like I I use extreme caution,
right.
And I said, oh, you mean you'refearful.
And he goes no, I'm not fearful, I just I'm, I'm cautious.
(40:46):
And and I said, what's thedifference?
And he just stares at me.
He goes well, I don't know,like it's not that I wouldn't do
it.
And I said, well, you haven'tdone it right.
So we had this conversation ofgoing back and forth and the
basis is the body doesn't knowthe difference between caution
and fear.
It's just no, there's a lowerfrequency and you don't want to
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do it right or you're worried todo it or whatever label that
you want to label it as it'sstill fear, it's still not
wanting to because you're scaredyou're going to fail, or and
that's what I tell people like,what is it really like?
Think about to yourself, is it,the the thought of failing.
Okay, what's the worst thatcould happen?
(41:27):
You fail, and what?
Have to start over again.
Have to rethink your strategy.
Have to be creative, like whatis the worst thing that could
happen?
Right, and then go from there.
If you don't want to take out aloan, do it from scratch if you
can.
You know what I mean, but whywouldn't you?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Well, I think it just depends on how bad you want it,
and what you're willing to giveup in order to do it.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Whoa, whoa, I'm gonna stop you right there.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Okay, stop me.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Self-sacrifice right.
Why do we have to give upanything to have something?
Why is that the thought process?
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Well, so so I'll give you, I'll give you my example
and then, and you break it downfrom there yeah, so, uh, when I
started this business, so I wentfrom I was, I was the guy that
was all in.
I had been in a business for4,321 days until I decided no
more.
And uh, then the business sold.
(42:23):
Just uh, within 45 days after I, after I left, and um, so I'm
trying to figure out what I'mgoing to do next.
And so I chose I sold two cars,because I told my wife, I said
I'm going to start a businessand that's scary, it's going to
(42:43):
cost some money, but I'm notgoing to use a single penny out
of our savings.
And so I sold two cars and she,she encouraged me not to.
She said you've already saidthat one of those cars you can't
replace, and sure enough notsomething I could replace.
And I said it's worth more tome to sacrifice that, to say I'm
giving this up in order to getthis.
(43:04):
But the business that I saw inthe future, which has evolved,
it's not as I thought it wasgoing to be.
Um, but this is a part, thispodcast is a part of that, but I
believed more in that than thedesire to have those two cars,
and I wouldn't go back and Iwouldn't do it any different.
(43:25):
Um, but I wanted her to knowthat I was serious about it, and
giving up the two cars told herhow serious I was about it.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Okay, I don't think.
I don't think giving up the twocars was this.
Material objects, sure, um, theway that you said it before
made it sound like we had togive up a piece of ourselves or
give up something of ourselves.
That's where I'm like.
We're not giving up anything ofourselves to be able to have a
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materialistic thing.
That's not, in my opinion, whatGod will hire power, weight,
universe.
That's not the energy I want tosend out.
Personally, right Of, let me beless than to get this that I
want.
I'm not willing to do that.
(44:21):
Therefore, I won't, um, I willdo what I can within my power,
but I will not give a piece ofmyself.
And hearing your example iscompletely understandable, but
just for other people that maybe listening, we don't.
I don't give up myself in orderto get what I want.
(44:45):
That will never be a thing.
I will never self-sacrificemyself like I did before to get
the things that I want.
That's a no-go for me.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Well, I think that becomes that's part of healing.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Is walking through that process to understand that,
in order to become who you'resupposed to be, it takes all of
you.
You can't give it, you can'tgive up, you can't slice part of
you away and and get there.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
A lot of people think they can.
But, yeah, I hear you.
Yeah, um, it's just like peoplewho work for promotions, right,
they're like, oh, I really wantthis promotion, so I'm going to
work extra hours and I'm goingto put all this time into that
self-sacrificing.
That's what I mean by that,right, like you're not
technically slivering off anypiece of you, but, the same
token, you're working thoselonger hours, you're making
(45:35):
extra commitments, you're doingall these things, you're wearing
yourself down to be able toshow that you can do it.
And in your, in your scenario,you know, if this was a session,
I'd be like why did you needthe validation of your wife,
right, if you knew that it wasgoing to succeed in no matter
what?
Why are you looking forexterior?
It's your wife and I love herto death.
(45:57):
Oh she's fantastic, she isamazing.
But I?
That's where I would questionif we were in a session hey, and
we're not, so you don't have toanswer, but it's hey why did
you feel?
If you knew and you trustedself, if you truly trusted self,
you didn't have to do somethingto try to prove it to anybody
(46:18):
else.
We don't have to jade here,which is judgment, argue, defend
, explain ourselves, right.
So we don't have to do any ofthat for anybody else except for
ourselves.
So if you truly trusted self inthat moment, you would be like
I'm doing this, I hope you cansupport me and you would have
(46:40):
done it.
Yeah, not having to show proof,explain, defend yourself.
That how serious you would havebeen.
She would have seen the end.
She would have seen where youare now.
She would still be there.
She's amazing.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Yeah, and she is.
She is absolutely fantastic.
So we're coming in 2025.
Yep, and you know I hate these,but plenty of people out there
make resolutions.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
I do not.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
So let's not call it a resolution.
Okay, somebody, somebody,somewhere, needs to make a
decision.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
They've been putting a decision off or they've been
ignoring the thing that theyneeded to address.
What would you say is the mostpowerful advice you could give
somebody that needs to make adecision today?
Speaker 2 (47:28):
I think it goes back to taking a pause in whatever
you're doing and if it's thisdecision on whether to move
forward on something, I wouldask self, just yourself, because
it doesn't matter who elseknows but ask yourself why I do
want to do it and why I don'twant to do it.
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And a lot of people aren't intouch with themselves to
understand, I think, that fullprocess.
So sometimes writing a page ofpositives and negatives right,
being able to physically seethose, oh, it would you know I
have more positives thannegatives.
Let's go ahead and do it.
But I think really it justcomes down to practicing the
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pause and really examiningyourself on why you didn't take
the leap, why you're notstarting that new venture.
Are you afraid?
Why are you afraid?
Is it a thought process?
What is it?
You know what I mean.
And if it's a thought offailure, who are you failing?
Who are you failing now if youdon't try?
You know what I mean.
And just walking through thosesteps, yeah, that would be my
(48:42):
advice to somebody else.
I had a client one time.
They're like I need you to makea notebook so that way I can
flip and say oh well, I need youknow.
Do I need to make the decisionyes and flip to yes?
What do I need?
You know, one of those turnbooks.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
She's like I need a pocket sized.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
That's a new product.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
We'll be in.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yeah, there, harmony.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Well, okay, all right , well, but I can see that one
though, but you can'tnecessarily see my decision.
I don't know, maybe that's alittle bit of both.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Maybe, I don't know, we'll have to see Unseen Harmony
sold by LaBelle Naturelle.
There you go, there you go, Ilike it.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Okay, all right.
How do they find you online?
How do they buy from you?
How do they, how do they do allthe things?
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Yeah, super simple.
Just go to wwwshoplbncom andyou can see all the products,
you can see all the servicesoffered and you can get ahold of
all the mastermind group that I, that I work with as well.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
And um, if somebody like give me an idea of what all
the products are, what?
What kind of products do yousell?
If somebody like give me anidea of what all the products
are, what kind of products doyou sell Literally head to toe,
everything from babies, pregnantmoms, men, children.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
I have it all.
I even have a pet section, butit's not technically on the site
.
But yeah, I make it all and ifyou have any questions, just
reach out to me.
I'm more than willing to workwith anybody on what that looks
like.
Okay.
All right, Well, Miss Annathank you so much for joining us
.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Thank you for having me and team.
So, um, if you have notexperienced Reiki, if you've not
had a lymphatic drainage uh,whether it's a facial or a
session if you are tired ofhaving, um, putting soaps and
other products on your skin thataggravate it, that have all
types of chemicals in it, youneed to take a look.
Go to wwwshoplbncom and checkout what Miss Anna has to offer.
(50:42):
If you're scared about, oh,maybe making making a decision,
uh, you need to walk throughthat.
You need to work through thepros and cons and just
understand that your future selfdepends on the decisions that
you choose to make today.
And you're not choosing to makea decision, is still choosing
to make a decision.
(51:02):
So, again, check out, ms Anna,stuff, stuff, shoplbncom.
And thank you so much fortuning in with us.
Again, thanks so much to theHitLab creative team here in
Nashville, tennessee, senseCustom Development and Charge
Forward Solutions.
Until next time, continue tocharge forward Team is Jim
Cripps here with the ChargeForward Podcast.
(51:24):
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I appreciate you forsubscribing and sharing the
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We are here to share theamazing stories, the things that
people have been through, theways that they were able to
improve their life, so that youcan take little nuggets from
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theirs and help improve yourstory and be better tomorrow
than you were today.
I hope that this is the toolyou needed at the right time and
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Thanks so much and don't forgetnew episodes drop every
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You are the cap for whatever goes on in your store,
in your company, in yourdistrict, in your household,
however excited you are, whatyou believe is possible,
whatever that threshold is.
Now I have a special guest foryou today.
(00:21):
She is near and dear to myheart Ms Ana DeCarlo.
She is a wife, a mother, abusiness owner for you today,
she is near and dear to my heart, miss Ana DeCarlo.
She is a wife, a mother, abusiness owner for the past 12
years, supplying local people,and even some not local people,
with just the perfect servicefor them.
Please welcome Miss Ana DeCarlo.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
But I want to do more , like there is more to what's
happening and that's where thespiritual stuff comes in.
Um, and I'm like I want to dothis but I don't necessarily
feel like people should have tobe charged to find themselves or
(00:56):
to heal, like I, I.
This concept cannot comethrough in my mind.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I am through and through, I'm a capitalist and I
understand money and I did notunderstand when I came to see
you and you're like this is adonation based and it's still to
this day.
It still perplexes me.
I love your heart and yourspirit in it.
I have trouble making it makesense in my head, but that's
(01:23):
that's why I love your heart andyour spirit in it.
I have trouble making it makesense in my head, but that's why
I have my business and you haveyour business.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You get out of those slumps by changing your mindset,
by changing your thoughtprocesses, by not accepting
defeat.
Yeah, you may be set back,that's okay.
There's a million ways to doone thing, a million different
ways.
That's why I said allmodalities are needed, all
things are needed.
(01:51):
In general, it's just whateveris good, better or best.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
You chose to just put one foot in front of the other.
You had $200 to get it startedand here you are, a dozen years
later later, and you're crushingit.
I don't remember if it'sHuberman or Gary Brekka that
said that.
You know, um, it's this pursuitof comfort that is killing
(02:16):
people.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Absolutely Cause uncomfortability.
With uncomfortability comesgrowth, comes opportunity, comes
all these different things, andeven in the heart of LBN, you
know, facing shutdown or facingwhatever it was.
Okay, let me navigate this.
How do I change it so that way?
(02:37):
It grabs people again?
Right, and I'm currentlythinking of doing a school type
aspect for what I do, and I'vehad some people like oh well,
you're going to give away allyour secrets, am I though?
Because it's kind of like arecipe with mom.
Right, like you have the recipe, but when you make it it
doesn't taste like mom made it,like I'm not here to gatekeep.
(02:59):
I want you to know, I want youto learn, I want you to open up.
It stops that mundane.
Every day is the same.
It gets you out of that box, itgets you thinking, and then,
all of a sudden, one thoughtleads to another thought and
leads to another thought, andyou go from, all of a sudden, a
negative aspect to a positiveone, and then you hold, you
change your whole life Likethat's.
(03:21):
That is the point.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Well, I think, um, so that is a very mature way to
look at it.
And, uh, those that haveencouraged you to gatekeep, that
is a very immature way to lookat it, because if you look at
the, the people that are doinghuge things and are crushing it,
whether we're talking aboutMichael Jordan, whether we're
talking about Elon Musk, whoeveris the top in their field, they
(03:44):
will give away their tips,their tricks, their secrets.
They make them public knowledge, and it's because they still
know that they're going to do itbetter.
Or, if you take those tools andyou improve their life, it's
because they gave you the tools,it's because they were a part
of it.
Or, on the off chance that youbecome the new master and you
are.
You are, you know, top atwhatever that is.
(04:07):
Yeah, they were a part of that.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Absolutely.
You're changing the world.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So, you know, giving it away, giving giving that,
that tool away to the nextperson so that they can improve
their life.
Again, it kind of goes to towhat we try to do here.
It's it's it's bringingsomebody else's struggle,
somebody else's, uh, a messageof triumph and how they worked
through it and how it wasn'teasy and it wasn't handed to
them, and maybe the personlistening can take just one
(04:35):
nugget and help improve theirday or their life.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Absolutely.
I mean, there's billions ofpeople across the world.
You don't think that?
You know, by me giving away allof a sudden, I'm gonna lose
like 50 people.
Okay, what's?
What's?
50 people to another millionlike?
That's right, it's okay,everything will be okay.
Um, so yeah, that's yeah I loveit now.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Um how long have y'all been married?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
oh god, I'm really bad at this.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
He told you to ask me this didn't he, he did not, he
did not.
I promise.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I want to say 16 years, okay.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
All right.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I think we're going on 16 or 17.
Okay, yeah, don't ask me when Igot married.
Please don't ask.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That's all right.
So, along the way.
So one of the topics that comesup in a lot of our episodes is
just how important having theright spouse is to overall
happiness and success, whetherthat's in business, whether
that's in just in life, whetherit's with kids.
But I do think you go throughseasons in your marriage and, um
(05:45):
, hopefully, the majority ofthem are growth and that you're
you're getting closer to beingthe person that you were
supposed to be and what you'rehere to do.
And, um, you know, I do thinkthat that's a much healthier way
to look at it than, um,somebody that just kind of
buries it and doesn't talk aboutit and then all of a sudden,
it's oh, we want a divorce.
(06:06):
Well, I mean, that couldprobably have been avoided if we
would have talked about howthis journey was changing and
how the future looked and whatwe dream to do and uh, those
types of things.
Um, so, you know, I think,whether we're talking about
communication with soul orwhether we're talking about
communication with our partner,uh's, just, you know, us saying
it out loud, um is really usadmitting to whatever that,
(06:31):
whatever that next thing is well.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Again, a lot of it goes back to I don't feel seen,
or I don't feel heard, or Idon't feel acknowledged.
So in those moments, even ifhe's having an adult tantrum or
if I'm having an adult tantrumright, because I still have them
I mean I am human.
So, um, it'll be one of thoselike, are you not feeling seen
right now?
(06:53):
Talk to me about it.
Like how do I make you feelseen?
How do I acknowledge you?
And that was the thing too, likeI was really sick, which I'm
still getting over.
I was really sick.
I had pneumonia right A weekbefore Thanksgiving.
Even up until now, like I stillhave a little bit of fluid in
that right lung.
So he was taking care of merelentlessly.
(07:17):
My youngest had it as well, sohe was taking care of both of us
.
I mean lunch, breakfast, what?
Now?
I wasn't really eating.
I ate maybe twice in a week buthe was constantly checking on
us what is your temperature,what's your oxygen?
Cause my oxygen was dropping.
At one point it was 80%.
So, like he's like I reallyshould take you to the hospital,
(07:39):
um, but I, I wouldn't go.
So I'm stubborn like that.
And again.
I have a job to do, they're notgoing to let me die, it's fine,
so, um anyway.
So afterwards he had beenfeeling like all of a sudden,
when everybody got better, wejust kind of started doing our
own thing again and I went backto school.
(08:00):
I went back to work Like it wasjust routine school.
I went back to work Like it wasjust routine.
And one day he stopped me.
He was like I feel really notappreciated and I was like oh,
okay, let's talk about it.
I said you're not feeling seenor acknowledged.
I had told you I thank you fromthe bottom of my heart for
(08:20):
taking time to take care of meand love me and take care of me
when I couldn't take care ofmyself.
What else do I need to do tomake you feel appreciated?
And he's like well, everybody'sjust off doing their own thing,
Like it's almost like we're noteven a family, like Belle's
doing her own thing, I'm justdoing her own thing.
And I was like okay, so you'reasking for family time, is that
(08:45):
what you're asking for?
And he was like yeah, I guessI'm asking for family time.
I was like, okay, that'sdifferent.
But I've said I was veryappreciative.
So if you're telling me youstill don't feel appreciated, I
need to know what your needs are.
That's a totally separate thingthan you know me actually not
(09:09):
saying anything and we're justlike blowing you off and all
these things.
So I think that communicationis important.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Well, and I think it's both ways.
I think it's important that weall acknowledge that we're not
mind readers, and neither isanybody else.
That part, you know, um,because there are things that
our spouses or our kids orwhatever, there's an expectation
that's not communicated, andthen nobody can live up to that.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Wait, wait, did you just say expectation?
What do I say about expectation?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Oh, I get it.
I get it.
I'm just saying that.
But in the world today, peoplewill have it painted in their
head how it's supposed to go.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And they haven't told anybody that that's how they
want it to go, and then they'llbe upset when it doesn't go that
way.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Well, expectation always leads to disappointment.
You know that.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Always there's a difference between boundaries
and expectations.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
We've had that conversation, we have we have.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So, if you will elaborate on that, because
there's somebody out there thatneeds to hear that today, so
boundary and expectation,expectation is when, just like
you said, you have this thoughtin your mind oh, this is going
to go this way.
Like, let's say, for instance,you have a surprise for somebody
, you're like oh my God, they'regoing to love it, they're going
to flip out when they see it,they're going to scream, they're
going to jump, they're going tobe so excited.
(10:26):
So you give them a present andthey open it and they're like
wow, this is so cool, thanks somuch.
And all of a sudden, you getthat blow of well, didn't you
like it?
Like, aren't you excited Right,excited right.
(10:48):
And you try to get all excitedfor them and they're like yeah,
it's great thanks so much.
Disappointment like oh yeah,right, whereas you have a
boundary.
Boundary would not be giftrelated, but that was just an
easy one to pull out sureboundary would be like um
boundary always has actionfollowing it.
So if something really bothersyou let's say you don't like
one-on-one confrontations andpeople try to get you to do this
(11:11):
one-on-one confrontation,you're like I'm not doing it
right.
You follow it with an action.
You walk away, you take abreath, you whatever it always
comes with an action becauseit's your boundary, it's what
you're not willing to do underany circumstance, or not willing
to accept, and so you have anaction that precedes it.
So that's the main differencebetween expectation and boundary
(11:34):
.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Okay, okay, I like it .
What are you excited about?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Oh God, I'm excited about everything.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
So what you're doing now, obviously.
So I think we go ahead and talkabout the new business, Do it?
So you know, a couple of timeswe've talked, you know, while
I've come in for Reiki session,because you know I'm passionate
about business and helpingpeople grow their business and
that kind of thing and a coupleof times you've opened up and
been like hey, what do you thinkabout this?
(12:05):
Or you know, I'm thinking aboutgrowing this and I love that,
Um, and in my head, as acapitalist, um, you know, I'm
thinking you want to grow the,uh, LaBelle, natural side of the
business because that'sscalable, Right, Yep, the
(12:26):
business, because that'sscalable, right.
And um, because we are twodifferent people and you do a
totally different thing for theworld, You're like no, no, no,
this is the future.
I'm going to scale the notscale, that's the wrong word.
I'm going to lean heavier into,uh, the spiritual side, the
Reiki, the healing, uh,lymphatic, all the things.
And I'm like, okay, but in myhead I'm in it, which I think I
(12:48):
said this out loud that's theside of the business that you
can't scale, you can't multiplyyourself.
And you were like I know, butit's what I'm passionate about,
it's what I'm supposed to do.
And so we've got, and we justcame up with a new name and it
was just it, just.
I'm not going to say it came outof thin air, but it was pulled
(13:09):
to you and I wrote it down.
Unseen Harmony.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So what can we expect from Unseen Harmony?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So with Unseen Harmony, I really want to.
Well, it's everything unseen.
First off, let's talk about thename.
Yeah, because the name is superunique.
Right, you can't see your lymphsystem, you can't.
When I do acupressure, youcan't see the toxins being
released and the fresh oxygenand blood coming back in and for
Reiki, you cannot see theenergy flowing Like you can feel
(13:40):
it.
You can't see it, or mostpeople can't anyway, I don't
want to say everybody.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
But most people can't .
So you know it's unseen, butwith all those things you
harmonize your body, right.
You're doing your lymph system,so you're activating that
physical side.
You're doing acupressure soyou're getting rid of toxins.
You're doing spiritual whichnobody recognizes but everybody
believes in, because everybodyhas faith and believes, you know
(14:07):
, in god or a higher power, orif they're not christian or
they're not catholic, they'rebelieving in something else, but
either way there's always ahigher power, right.
So you believe in energy, right.
And so, with unseen harmony andeverything being unseen, the
harmonized, I really do want togrow that aspect of it.
(14:28):
I want to be able to.
I don't know if donate my timeis the correct way to say it,
but definitely open it up tomore people.
I already travel for what I do.
I've gone to Alaska for it.
I'm going to Las Vegas.
I've gone in Florida and donepeople there, um.
So it's just kind of opening upthat gateway and saying, okay,
(14:52):
how do we make this work Right?
And donation for travel is, youknow, if I'm going to a
client's house, like I've beento Franklin, I've gone to
Murfreesboro, like I've done allthose, I've gone to clarksville
still all donation based I justsay, hey, please keep in mind,
I'm traveling two hours to you.
Or hey, keep in mind, I'mtraveling this, whatever, but I
(15:13):
don't put a minimum on it.
I don't do anything, I just hey,please keep in mind sure as far
as traveling to differentstates, I don't know what that
looks like yet.
I really don't.
That's just me being honest.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
However, I will say this the right people will come
and I will always be taken careof.
That's right, Literally.
So I keep being pulled to Texas.
I mean, I'm talking everywhere.
Texas is coming up on my phone.
I'm not even talking about itout loud this is probably one of
the few times I've said it outloud but it's coming up on my
phone.
It's coming up on my I meaneverywhere people I talk to
(15:50):
though oh yeah, my family'scoming in from Texas.
I'm like, oh my God, you know.
So I keep being pulled and keepseeing Texas, for whatever
reason.
So I feel like that's my nextplace to go.
But I want to be able to growthat side and help whoever I
need to help, wherever they'reat.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
You don't have to be at a certain stage in your life,
you just have to realize, oh, Ineed, there's something more
missing from me, like I need tocome back to self.
It's really all it is.
And I've had clients come to meand they're like okay, I want
to come back to self.
And I'm like, so I'll ask a fewquestions, just kind of like
trying to see where they're at.
I'm like no, not me, you'regoing to need to go see Christy
(16:32):
first, right?
Or you're going to need to seeMichelle first and then we'll
talk.
And they're like well, whycan't you see me now?
You're a little too unhealedbecause some of the things I'm
going to say they're going totrigger you and I'm not here to
hurt, I'm here to help.
That's right.
So never see somebody if Idon't think they'll benefit from
what I have to offer.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah Well, just a few months ago, um, and I don't
know if you saw the episode withuh Carissa and Amber from uh
home front builders.
Okay was, was, was, really kindof trying to correct our path.
Um, so I come in that morningand I keep in mind Carissa has
(17:14):
five children and her husband isin special forces, so he's
deployed.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
And so she has a mountain of work.
Plus she owns a business and isa partner in a business.
Plus she owns a business and isa partner in a business.
Add to that, amber is herbusiness partner.
She has two businesses.
And so they come in and, uh, weget 20 minutes in and Amber is
very uncomfortable it's not herscene, um, and I felt bad for.
(17:42):
But I looked down 18 minutes inand we're not recording anymore
and I just bought a brand newmemory card.
So I was like, no, so we stop.
I apologize, I don't know howlong we've been not recording
and we go back into it and werecord a little over an hour and
(18:03):
she's better, not, I mean,she's still, you know, it's
still uncomfortable for her.
And I realized, as we'rewrapping up, it's not recording
anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Nope, okay.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So they head home and I find out that both times it
recorded a minute and 18 seconds.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Interesting, no idea why?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
So now I call and I apologize.
Ladies, I know you took, youknow the day you came down all
these things.
You know, if you're willing tocome back down, I will figure
out what the problem is and wewill get this resolved.
So two weeks later they comeback down.
Oh, and to make matters eveneven more work, or escalated,
(18:47):
carissa was just six weeks fromhaving her last baby.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
So geez yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And.
But now Chris is a ball ofenergy.
I mean, she is fantastic.
And so they agreed to come backdown in a week or two.
So two weeks later they comeback in.
I've replaced the memory card.
It was a defective memory cardand when I tell you she was a
different person.
It was like daylight and dark.
She went from uncomfortable,didn't want to be here, wanted
(19:17):
to be a part of it, but wasn'tsure what her part was to.
She probably talked 60% of thetime.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
And so we talked about.
You know what happened and shegoes about.
You know what happened and shegoes.
Jim, you don't understand.
About five minutes after youcalled to let us know that it
didn't record, my transmissionwent out in my relatively new
car.
We're stuck on the side of theroad and I lost it.
It was the straw that broke thecamel's back.
I couldn't take it anymore.
(19:45):
So many things had lined upthat it just it felt
overwhelming.
And Carissa had a friend thatdid Reiki and energy and all
those things, but she was in alike, she was in a different
state at the time and so Ididn't even know you could do
these things remote.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Um, that, can we come back to that, I want to talk
about that, but yeah, go aheadwith your story.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
So she puts her on the phone with her and, you know
, she breaks down.
They go through everything.
Fast forward.
Two weeks later, amber comes inhere and she is a different
person.
She is upbeat, she is vibrant,she talks 60% of the time.
I mean, and it was like theuniverse was going no, no, no,
(20:30):
this is.
We're going to roadblock thisuntil the right person is in
that seat.
So talk to me about remotesessions.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, so virtually it happens the same way.
It's just like Wi-Fi on yourphone.
You trust your Wi-Fi comesacross right.
You trust you have Wi-Fi onyour computer.
You know you're walking aroundin the middle of a mall or
middle of wherever, and yourphone still works.
Energy has no limits If it.
If it's limit, it's becauseyou're limiting it.
So either way, energy flows nomatter what.
(20:58):
And I do do virtual sessions.
My farthest one is Alaska, butI have them all over Virginia.
I've had, you know, people inOhio, I have people all over.
So how that works is youliterally just two different
ways.
One for me personally, you canjust send a picture at the time
I'll be able to connect to youalmost instantaneously.
Or two you can be FaceTime withme and we can go through as if
(21:22):
you're just on the bed, like anormal session.
Um, some people prefer thatbecause then they feel like
they're actually having thatmoment, right.
But I've had people send mepictures and they're like you
felt like you were in the roomand I'm like right, because I
was like you know, it's just,energy doesn't have limits, it
just doesn't.
And I mean that's the law ofphysics, it's, you can look it
(21:44):
up scientifically.
I mean you know what I mean.
You just can't stop energy.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
So so in my head it is like the x-men and uh, like
xavier, you know, he puts on thehelmet and all of a sudden he's
in the room with a person.
Yeah, um, but uh, yeah, I, Iwould have been a little like, I
think in.
For me it needs to be in person, but clearly, based on the
(22:11):
results that I've seen, I meanit works and it's one of those
things.
It works if you are open to itworking.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Just open to it.
But even if you're like, oh, Idon't believe this is not going
to work, I guarantee you I willstill get something out of it.
So it just depends if your bodyis willing.
Not even you consciously cause.
You know, conscious worksdifferent than subconscious, and
that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
It does, it does, and you know, um, one of the things
that I find interesting aboutmy sessions is, you know, we, we
walk through the colors that Isee and the you know the, the
things that I'm experiencingduring the process.
Yeah, Um, yeah, it's just, ifyou're out there, if you're
(22:56):
listening, uh, you just gotta gotry it for yourself.
I mean so, uh, we'll, we'll dothis more in detail in a few
minutes, but how does somebodyget in touch with you?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
So, um, there's several different ways they can
get ahold of me.
Um, through my calendar Ialways say it wrong but that
calendar so it's uh.
It's really long.
I should probably think aboutshortening it now, but it's uh,
wwwcalendly C-A-L-E-N-D-L-Ycom,and then the slash and La
(23:30):
Labelle Naturelle one.
And it's not Labella Naturelle,it's not Labella, oh my God, no
, it's Labelle Naturelle.
There you go N-A-T-U-R-E-L-L-E,but anyway.
But the best way to do it is ifyou have Facebook, which most
people have Facebook nowadays.
Go to Facebook, follow LaBelleNaturelle storefront and I post
(23:54):
all different things that I'mdoing A lot of times.
There's products on there, butthere's also the link to be able
to go and do it.
Or you can go to my website,which is probably the easiest
one shoplbncom.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I could have shown that that one's really easy,
right.
So shop LBNcom.
I could have shut it.
That was really easy.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Right, so shop LBNcom , and then it says services
offered.
You can actually get in touchwith anybody of our group in
that area as well, um, and soyou can get ahold of Michelle,
you can get ahold of Christy orme, and again, I don't just do
Reiki, you know, I do thelymphatic facial which helps
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drains the lymph nodes withinthe body, um, and then it helps
with your sinuses andeverything's all connected.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Even the shape of your face even the shape of your
face.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
That look, yours was a great picture too.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Well, and I found myself, um, because I think very
selfishly, if time was not aconsideration, I would have you
do a lymphatic facial on metwice a week.
So, especially having been sickthe last few days, I found
myself like I would do what Icould remember you doing and
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would instantly feel better.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
And they're all connected and I don't think
people give enough, you know,appreciation to their lymph
system and that's the only partof your body that you can't pump
on your you know that doesn'tpump by something else.
It's not pumped by your heart,your muscles or anything.
You have to do it yourself.
So um and it, and it's a greatimmunity booster, like it's
amazing.
But that and then acupressure,and then you know I have the
Opus sound bed that does nottravel with me.
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I just want to be clear, causeI have had people ask me that
Can you bring that bed with you?
I can't.
It's over a hundred pounds, itstays where it's at and doesn't
move.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
And it's very expensive.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It is a very expensive machine, but it's
totally worth it.
Um, so if they can make it outto the shop, great.
If they can't listen, we gotother modes, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Um, but yeah so now and you're adding you're adding
lymphatic uh massage.
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
So not lymphatic massage, it's just going to be
lymphatic drainage for the body.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Um, and there's a difference between that because,
uh, with massaging, it's, youknow you, you have to be massage
therapist and there's there'sthings that go into that.
And lymphatic drainage is alittle bit different.
You can use tools, just like Iuse for your face, you know Um,
but it's, I am currentlytraining for that and I'll be
working with Michelle when Ifinally get done with that.
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So, um, fantastic, yeah, in herclinic.
So it'll be, it'll beinteresting.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Well, and I think that it's um.
So, as somebody to clear upsomething we talked about a
little bit, like a little bitago, you said you know, somebody
had um, uh, a prejudice, ifthat's what we want to call it,
towards um Michelle's clinicbecause it was part of her house
.
Yeah, and I can tell you I've,I've gone to several places for
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ozone therapy, Some that are inbusiness parks, some that are in
standalone buildings, and atthe end of the day, it's about
the practitioner and what theydo and how they do it, and I'm
glad she's there.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, and her clinic's, really.
I mean, it's literally set uplike a clinic, so I mean she's
got all the approvals that sheneeds for she's got everything.
And it's that again, thatmindset Well, we're scared of
things that we don't know ordon't understand.
Right, to try to understand it,versus just jump at being
(27:28):
judgmental or really using thatside of you that I'm scared,
that egotistical side.
Right, the ego is only there toprotect you and keep you safe.
So as soon as something feelsweird and off, our ego steps in
and go.
I don't know about that, right,but we really don't have a
reason.
So when I asked that one clientwhat's the difference between a
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doctor's office and hers she'slicensed she didn't really have
an answer for me, because thenit made her think like, oh well,
crap, like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
She's got the licensing for it, so what really
makes a difference?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And it really does look like a doctor's office when
you walk in.
Oh yeah, it does.
The only difference, in myopinion, is you don't sit in a
waiting room for 45 minutes pastyour time slot, while you're
waiting for them in someundisclosed location.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, Me and my husband always have a joke
whenever they go to.
You know if they ever go to thepediatrician which is few and
far between but he'll be like,okay, in the first waiting room
and he'll text me in the secondwaiting room, cause you know you
always sit there for anotherlike 45 minutes in the real room
.
So yeah, but here youdefinitely don't have that at
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Michelle's.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
That's right.
Um, what do you think is thebiggest misconception about the
natural products, about thenatural products?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Oh, geez.
Okay, that's a good question.
So, on the natural productrealm, if it's in a store it has
to have a chemical and a lot ofpeople don't realize that.
And so if you look laws and ofcourse they may have changed now
, but I'm speaking on when I didthe research.
Um, it was 75% of the producthad to be natural to be called
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natural, and then you could useliterally the worst chemical you
could possibly put on your body.
For the rest of it For organicI think it was 93 or 94% had to
be natural and the rest had tobe whatever you wanted, right?
So you put it in that aspect,you could have the most cancer
causing substance in there.
But if you had 70 some percentof it natural, then it's totally
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fine, right?
So I think the biggestmisconception is people don't
actually do research.
And I know that's notnecessarily a misconception, but
if you were to sit and actuallylook at the ingredients and
that's the thing, I have fulldisclosure.
So you go on my site and youlook at the ingredients, that's
what you get.
There's no, oh yes, we'readding this and this.
Sometimes they change becauseproduct availability or organic.
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Getting the product to me issometimes hard.
Especially after COVID that washard.
I had to do what I could in thebest, whatever.
But I get every manufacturingsheet so I know how it's made
and know how it's processed.
People don't do that and so Ithink no matter what good,
better, best, there's alwayssomething that there's going to
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be better for Do your research.
You can afford what you canafford, but no matter what, do
your research.
I had a client one time.
They're like do you make talosoap?
Because you know talo is a newbig thing, just like goat's milk
soap, right.
So like do you make talo soap?
Um, yes, because you need a fatin your soap as the binder yeah
(30:40):
.
And I was like and so I don'tuse palm oil, so that's bad for
the environment, it's all thesethings.
It's a cheap version, whatever.
And I was like so, yes, my, mysoap is maybe tallow, yeah, but
like, just tallow, um no,because then it would be so hard
that you wouldn't be able to doanything with it.
(31:01):
You have to have, you know,your, your moisturizing, your
oils, your whatever, and we'rekind of getting off base here.
But your butters, your oils,you need all that to make the
soap.
So that way it's the correct pHbalance for your skin, which is
a seven or eight pH.
And they're like well, I don'tknow, I get this tallow soap
from you know wherever, blah,blah, blah.
And I'm like okay, there's moreto it than that, it's not just
(31:23):
tallow.
You know, it's explaining thisthing, the people, the marketing
behind it is oh well, it'sTalos soap, okay, well, you
can't.
You know that doesn't itdoesn't compute.
It can't just be that right.
So it's like how muchinformation are we actually
disclosing to people?
How much research are youactually doing?
(31:43):
And when you're requestingsomething, if somebody has more
information to give it, justlisten for a second.
You know anything that goeswith everything with Reiki.
I mean, everybody's Reiki isdifferent.
You will never go to onepractitioner.
That's always the same.
Right, you go to me, it's goingto be different than Michelle.
If you go to Michelle, it'sgoing to be different than the
next Reiki person.
Everybody is different in whatthey do do, what you're pulled
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to do.
But the expectation part of itis you will always be
disappointed when you're lookingfor a certain something and not
getting the result that youwant the open-mindedness, I
think is the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I love it.
Um, how much of yours ends upbeing education?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Oh To my clients.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Like giving education to them.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Well, you know, I think and we've talked about a
lot of different things, likeyesterday- you know you actually
text and I was pulling intoLibertas Cryo to try to get rid
of some of the funk that I hadgoing on with getting sick and
you know I would say 80% of whatthey do is educate people
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because they don't understandthe services that they offer and
what the benefits are and thosetypes of things.
So, whether we're talking aboutReiki, lymphatic or the natural
products, how much of your timedo you think you spend
educating people?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
A lot of time.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
A lot of time.
Yeah, for first time Reikiclients.
I normally schedule them fortwo hour sessions because the
first section of it is literallyjust explaining what I'm doing.
It's a new concept and I wantto make sure everybody's clear
and that there's no expectationsheld there, Right it?
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works best when you're openminded and and just okay, let's
go um.
But I think that across theboard education is, or the lack
of education has, limited somany people in their thought
process that they just gowherever they need to go or
being told to go for that moment, and then they regret their
decision and it's like no, youstill had a choice, you know,
(33:52):
and you chose wrong.
So how do we fix it?
Right?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Make another choice.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Absolutely.
You make a different choice.
So I say, yeah, go with.
Go with whatever you want to goto, whatever you're pulled with
.
Just do your research.
Be open to what people have tosay.
You can still say no, yeah, youknow.
After a whole explanation youstill be like, don't think
(34:18):
that's for me Cool.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Peace out.
Send somebody else my way, well, and so on that same note.
Yeah, so two times ago I didthe sound bed and, uh, had done
it several times before, alwayshad great experiences, and this
one track just I did not jivewith it.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Nope, you sure didn't .
Speaker 1 (34:37):
And even so much so that when, when I got up, you
were like oh no, like whathappened?
And I was like it was rough.
And you were like why didn'tyou tell me to stop it?
And I was like, cause I keptthinking that maybe I was
supposed to work through this orthat there was a purpose for it
.
And you were like you can't endthat way.
So you put on a different track.
And you know, I left right asrain, um.
(34:58):
But you were like why didn'tyou, why didn't you tell me to
stop it?
And I was like I was just goingwith it.
And you were like well then,you were choosing to keep going
with it and you were exactlyright.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
But I think that's in all parts of our life Like we
can choose, like we always havea choice, even when we don't
feel like we have a choice,let's just say it is something
that you have to go through.
We'll speed up.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Okay, wait a minute, we're not just going to push
through.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,hold on, let me back you up.
So I agree with you.
Make a different choice.
The push through aspect, nowwait, that's gonna get a lot of
people in trouble.
Okay, um, pushing through, we,we forget steps, so we don't
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acknowledge the emotions thatwe're going through.
All the things.
Here's thing Even if you don'tlike a choice, it doesn't make
it less of a choice, right?
Oh, yeah, so, just like myhusband.
Well, we have bills to pay.
We have this, right.
Your other choice is you get adifferent job in a way that you
(36:04):
want to live and how you wantyour life to look, and it will
happen for you.
Right, and I always go back toum, this was years ago, but when
COVID was in full swingeverybody was losing their jobs,
right?
My husband uh, there was like200 people.
He was one of the last ones outof all those people to lose his
(36:26):
job, because they loved himthat much.
But I knew it was coming, notbecause it was COVID, but
because of his actions.
Every day, all his thoughtswere always negative.
Every day he had something thatwas not right.
Right, and I'm like, why don'tyou quit?
Why don't you quit?
He wouldn't quit and I saidyou're going to lose your job,
(36:46):
like you're going to lose yourjob.
He wouldn't quit and I saidyou're going to lose your job.
Like you're going to lose yourjob.
And he's like why would I losemy job?
I said because of how you'reacting, you're already putting
out there that you don't want it, right.
So when he lost his job, Iwasn't angry, I wasn't saddened,
I knew it was coming and I said, okay, probably not the best
(37:11):
thing I should have said, butI'm still human.
I was like told you.
So I mean, I told you this wascoming and so it happened right
before Thanksgiving.
So he had no job forThanksgiving or Christmas and
you know, we were solely relyingon, on my income.
I was making through thebusiness and, um, we were fine,
always taken care of, like Isaid, and he got the job that he
has now.
And I tell him the same thingI'm like your other option is to
(37:34):
find a job that you want andblah, blah, blah.
You're choosing to stay whereyou are.
Just because you don't like thechoice doesn't make it less of
one.
It's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
People don't want to talk about it or realize it
Right, but I mean, that's how wedeal with things.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
That's how some people may deal with it.
That's not how I deal with it.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Well, no, I'm saying.
I'm saying if we have toaddress it, if we're going to
deal with it, oh yeah.
And so uh, put it in the cornerand not looking at it.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Right, right, exactly .
And that same thing withchoices, right.
So that's where I sit with that.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I love it, yeah.
So, um to that same point.
Yeah, because I used to, and Iknow you.
I know you already know this,so I'm one of those people that
has a hard time drawing thatline between who I am and what I
do.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Uh-huh, I'm getting better at it.
We talk about that.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
I'm getting better at it, yes, um, but that's how I
used to size things up.
Not that I, not that I don'tstill uh, but that line of
between who I am and what I do,that's.
That's not as blurry as it usedto be, um, but you know, I used
to spend an absorbent amount oftime with my team.
I trained every personcompany-wide, in person, every
(38:49):
single month, and most peoplethought it was crazy for that Um
, but the reason I did it is,more often than not, I had
people that took what I gavethem and built upon it, and so I
always liken it to um.
If you were the first caveman orcavewoman that discovered fire
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and you brought fire to aneighboring group and they let
it go out, and so the next timeyou came by, you had to give
them fire again, and you had togive them fire again.
It wears on you.
But if you came by and they hadshared fire with more people
because you had shared fire withthem, well then it.
Then it fills your, well, andnow you, now you're, now you're
(39:33):
fired up again because you'veseen what they've done with it.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
And.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I think.
I think that in that samespirit it's you want to help
people so that then they can goand make their life better and
then help more people.
All right, so somebody outthere right now is thinking
about starting a business.
They've done their research,They've they've overanalyzed
this thing, They've got morethan $200 or they've got less
than $200, but they keep findingexcuses as to why they don't do
(39:59):
it.
What is the best advice you canpossibly give them?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Why wouldn't you?
Why wouldn't you?
There, you go If you've got themoney, you've got the time.
And I had a discussion about.
It wasn't about business orstarting business or anything,
but I had a client one time whowas like explaining to me why
they don't do things.
(40:24):
He was like I've had all thesethoughts of all these different
businesses I could start and Ihaven't yet.
And I said, well, why not?
He said because I'm caution,like I I use extreme caution,
right.
And I said, oh, you mean you'refearful.
And he goes no, I'm not fearful, I just I'm, I'm cautious.
(40:46):
And and I said, what's thedifference?
And he just stares at me.
He goes well, I don't know,like it's not that I wouldn't do
it.
And I said, well, you haven'tdone it right.
So we had this conversation ofgoing back and forth and the
basis is the body doesn't knowthe difference between caution
and fear.
It's just no, there's a lowerfrequency and you don't want to
(41:06):
do it right or you're worried todo it or whatever label that
you want to label it as it'sstill fear, it's still not
wanting to because you're scaredyou're going to fail, or and
that's what I tell people like,what is it really like?
Think about to yourself, is it,the the thought of failing.
Okay, what's the worst thatcould happen?
(41:27):
You fail, and what?
Have to start over again.
Have to rethink your strategy.
Have to be creative, like whatis the worst thing that could
happen?
Right, and then go from there.
If you don't want to take out aloan, do it from scratch if you
can.
You know what I mean, but whywouldn't you?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Well, I think it just depends on how bad you want it,
and what you're willing to giveup in order to do it.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Whoa, whoa, I'm gonna stop you right there.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Okay, stop me.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Self-sacrifice right.
Why do we have to give upanything to have something?
Why is that the thought process?
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Well, so so I'll give you, I'll give you my example
and then, and you break it downfrom there yeah, so, uh, when I
started this business, so I wentfrom I was, I was the guy that
was all in.
I had been in a business for4,321 days until I decided no
more.
And uh, then the business sold.
(42:23):
Just uh, within 45 days after I, after I left, and um, so I'm
trying to figure out what I'mgoing to do next.
And so I chose I sold two cars,because I told my wife, I said
I'm going to start a businessand that's scary, it's going to
(42:43):
cost some money, but I'm notgoing to use a single penny out
of our savings.
And so I sold two cars and she,she encouraged me not to.
She said you've already saidthat one of those cars you can't
replace, and sure enough notsomething I could replace.
And I said it's worth more tome to sacrifice that, to say I'm
giving this up in order to getthis.
(43:04):
But the business that I saw inthe future, which has evolved,
it's not as I thought it wasgoing to be.
Um, but this is a part, thispodcast is a part of that, but I
believed more in that than thedesire to have those two cars,
and I wouldn't go back and Iwouldn't do it any different.
(43:25):
Um, but I wanted her to knowthat I was serious about it, and
giving up the two cars told herhow serious I was about it.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Okay, I don't think.
I don't think giving up the twocars was this.
Material objects, sure, um, theway that you said it before
made it sound like we had togive up a piece of ourselves or
give up something of ourselves.
That's where I'm like.
We're not giving up anything ofourselves to be able to have a
(44:00):
materialistic thing.
That's not, in my opinion, whatGod will hire power, weight,
universe.
That's not the energy I want tosend out.
Personally, right Of, let me beless than to get this that I
want.
I'm not willing to do that.
(44:21):
Therefore, I won't, um, I willdo what I can within my power,
but I will not give a piece ofmyself.
And hearing your example iscompletely understandable, but
just for other people that maybe listening, we don't.
I don't give up myself in orderto get what I want.
(44:45):
That will never be a thing.
I will never self-sacrificemyself like I did before to get
the things that I want.
That's a no-go for me.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Well, I think that becomes that's part of healing.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Is walking through that process to understand that,
in order to become who you'resupposed to be, it takes all of
you.
You can't give it, you can'tgive up, you can't slice part of
you away and and get there.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
A lot of people think they can.
But, yeah, I hear you.
Yeah, um, it's just like peoplewho work for promotions, right,
they're like, oh, I really wantthis promotion, so I'm going to
work extra hours and I'm goingto put all this time into that
self-sacrificing.
That's what I mean by that,right, like you're not
technically slivering off anypiece of you, but, the same
token, you're working thoselonger hours, you're making
(45:35):
extra commitments, you're doingall these things, you're wearing
yourself down to be able toshow that you can do it.
And in your, in your scenario,you know, if this was a session,
I'd be like why did you needthe validation of your wife,
right, if you knew that it wasgoing to succeed in no matter
what?
Why are you looking forexterior?
It's your wife and I love herto death.
(45:57):
Oh she's fantastic, she isamazing.
But I?
That's where I would questionif we were in a session hey, and
we're not, so you don't have toanswer, but it's hey why did
you feel?
If you knew and you trustedself, if you truly trusted self,
you didn't have to do somethingto try to prove it to anybody
(46:18):
else.
We don't have to jade here,which is judgment, argue, defend
, explain ourselves, right.
So we don't have to do any ofthat for anybody else except for
ourselves.
So if you truly trusted self inthat moment, you would be like
I'm doing this, I hope you cansupport me and you would have
(46:40):
done it.
Yeah, not having to show proof,explain, defend yourself.
That how serious you would havebeen.
She would have seen the end.
She would have seen where youare now.
She would still be there.
She's amazing.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Yeah, and she is.
She is absolutely fantastic.
So we're coming in 2025.
Yep, and you know I hate these,but plenty of people out there
make resolutions.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
I do not.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
So let's not call it a resolution.
Okay, somebody, somebody,somewhere, needs to make a
decision.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
They've been putting a decision off or they've been
ignoring the thing that theyneeded to address.
What would you say is the mostpowerful advice you could give
somebody that needs to make adecision today?
Speaker 2 (47:28):
I think it goes back to taking a pause in whatever
you're doing and if it's thisdecision on whether to move
forward on something, I wouldask self, just yourself, because
it doesn't matter who elseknows but ask yourself why I do
want to do it and why I don'twant to do it.
(47:49):
And a lot of people aren't intouch with themselves to
understand, I think, that fullprocess.
So sometimes writing a page ofpositives and negatives right,
being able to physically seethose, oh, it would you know I
have more positives thannegatives.
Let's go ahead and do it.
But I think really it justcomes down to practicing the
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pause and really examiningyourself on why you didn't take
the leap, why you're notstarting that new venture.
Are you afraid?
Why are you afraid?
Is it a thought process?
What is it?
You know what I mean.
And if it's a thought offailure, who are you failing?
Who are you failing now if youdon't try?
You know what I mean.
And just walking through thosesteps, yeah, that would be my
(48:42):
advice to somebody else.
I had a client one time.
They're like I need you to makea notebook so that way I can
flip and say oh well, I need youknow.
Do I need to make the decisionyes and flip to yes?
What do I need?
You know, one of those turnbooks.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
She's like I need a pocket sized.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
That's a new product.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
We'll be in.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yeah, there, harmony.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Well, okay, all right , well, but I can see that one
though, but you can'tnecessarily see my decision.
I don't know, maybe that's alittle bit of both.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Maybe, I don't know, we'll have to see Unseen Harmony
sold by LaBelle Naturelle.
There you go, there you go, Ilike it.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Okay, all right.
How do they find you online?
How do they buy from you?
How do they, how do they do allthe things?
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Yeah, super simple.
Just go to wwwshoplbncom andyou can see all the products,
you can see all the servicesoffered and you can get ahold of
all the mastermind group that I, that I work with as well.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
And um, if somebody like give me an idea of what all
the products are, what?
What kind of products do yousell?
If somebody like give me anidea of what all the products
are, what kind of products doyou sell Literally head to toe,
everything from babies, pregnantmoms, men, children.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
I have it all.
I even have a pet section, butit's not technically on the site
.
But yeah, I make it all and ifyou have any questions, just
reach out to me.
I'm more than willing to workwith anybody on what that looks
like.
Okay.
All right, Well, Miss Annathank you so much for joining us
.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Thank you for having me and team.
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Go to wwwshoplbncom and checkout what Miss Anna has to offer.
(50:42):
If you're scared about, oh,maybe making making a decision,
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understand that your future selfdepends on the decisions that
you choose to make today.
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(51:02):
So, again, check out, ms Anna,stuff, stuff, shoplbncom.
And thank you so much fortuning in with us.
Again, thanks so much to theHitLab creative team here in
Nashville, tennessee, senseCustom Development and Charge
Forward Solutions.
Until next time, continue tocharge forward Team is Jim
Cripps here with the ChargeForward Podcast.
(51:24):
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