August 30, 2024 • 12 mins
Renewed Commitment: The Return and Evolution of 'Chasing Energy'
Check out the Sprout Spout
https://sproutspout.com/
Daniel, the host of 'Chasing Energy,' returns after a hiatus to discuss the challenges and reasons behind the break, including the lack of traction and feedback on his podcast. Daniel shares his renewed motivation, driven by audience questions, personal research, and the evolution of AI tools that simplify the editing process. He announces a shift in format, focusing more on solo episodes rather than guest interviews. Daniel also reveals his work on the 'Sprout Spout,' a health product he's developed, and his upcoming pitch in Las Vegas to industry experts. He emphasizes his mission to make a positive impact on the world and encourages listeners to leave reviews and reach out with questions.
00:00 Introduction and Hiatus Explanation
00:51 Reasons for Returning to Podcasting
03:00 New Approach to Podcasting
04:31 Current Projects and Updates
05:40 The Sprout Spout Journey
07:44 Hero's Journey and Personal Growth
11:38 Conclusion and Call to Action
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
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(00:05):
Hi, it's Daniel.
Welcome back to chasing energy.
Yes.
I took a little bit of a break.
And for good reason, I wasspending a lot of time editing
the podcast and it didn't seemto be gathering a lot of
traction.
And when you combine those twothings, it becomes harder to
sort of keep the podcast going.
So lack of reviews, a lack offeedback and things like that
(00:29):
caused me to question how muchtime I was spending on the
podcast.
Now, I'm sure you're not reallyinterested in my problems, but
I'm giving you the reason thatit just became a big time.
Suck for me.
I used to wonder when peoplewould stop podcasting.
I'd be like, man, they quit.
I can't believe they quit.
And then I became that person.
(00:49):
So now I'm going to answer thequestion.
Why am I recording after ahiatus?
There's a couple of reasons.
One is that I get questionsevery so often.
When are you bringing thepodcast back to which I think to
myself, Where were you when Iasked for reviews and things
like that, but it is good toknow.
It gives me a tingle inside.
When I think that other peopleare listening this and that it
(01:11):
somehow some way brings value totheir life.
The other part of that is.
Is that.
I am constantly researching andgathering information and I've.
During my mini mini.
S voice journaling sessions,where I talked to myself and
think about things and you know,what am I doing?
(01:31):
I've become a little moreconvinced.
That it's kind of selfish togather all this information and
then do nothing with it.
I.
Essentially just use it formyself.
And I had a friend tell me theother day they were saying one
of your gifts is that you taketopics that are intimidating and
very frustrating to people incertainly in regards to health.
(01:53):
There's other topics as well.
And you tend to break them downinto ways that people
understand.
Now.
There might've been a little bitof flattering there.
I don't know, but it, it stuckwith me enough to say it might
be time for me to do a few moreepisodes and see if it's a
little better received.
The last reason that I'mbringing the podcast back.
(02:14):
Or at least the last reason I'mgoing to mention today.
Is that I have been paying forthings like Buzzsprout and
Descript, which for my podcastediting tools.
And just for giggles the otherday, I was like, man, I'm paying
for these tools every month.
I should at least get in thereand make some projects for
YouTube or Instagram.
And when I started playing withthem, I realized how far the AI
(02:36):
has come.
Now.
AI is integrated into tools likethe script and what used to take
me many, probably at least twohours of diligent work.
Would take me probably six to 10minutes now.
So when I saw that I becameconvinced.
Okay.
(02:56):
Maybe instead of two nights aweek, I can get it down to one
night, a week.
The thing that I'm going tomention about to you about
moving forward with the podcast?
I don't know if it wasinsecurity or what, but I very
rarely did any type of solo castwhere I just gave you
information that I was workingon or an insight that maybe I
found useful.
I spent so much time trying tofind guests for the podcast and
(03:21):
get on their schedule and dothings like that.
It became kind of frustratingfor me, especially when, you
know, when you're kind of anunknown podcaster.
Not a lot of people are fightingto get on your podcast, man.
They're kind of like, who areyou?
Why.
And I had some really wonderfulguest.
I'm very, very proud of those,but here's my point.
(03:43):
I'm not going to make my postingof this podcast contingent on
having a guest, in fact, I'mprobably not going to seek them
out as actively as I used to.
If I can find one on a topicthat I'm trying to research or
they, I think they haveinformation to share.
I'm going to bring them on.
Otherwise, I'm going to sharewith you some insights that I'm
(04:03):
working on.
And maybe some information thatI'm struggling with, this is a
two way conversation because Ialways keep the line open.
You can always just reach out tome at DP Lucas on Instagram,
send me a message posting.
One of my comments.
But that's I keep the channelsopen and then there's always the
review boards on, the pod, yourlocal podcast listing, which I
(04:26):
make.
Sure that this podcast is listedjust about everywhere.
So the last thing I want to talkto you about today is what have
I been working on over the last.
Year.
And a half ish since the podcastis basically not been updated
since then.
And I think it's going to bevery, very obvious that I've
(04:48):
been very busy.
I was.
Starting to question whetherthis podcast was impacting the
world.
And I think that was a healthyquestion because I just didn't
see a lot of, view counts andthings like that.
And just like I said, I startedto question amount of time.
I was spending.
once you take two weeks off, itis very hard to get back on that
(05:10):
wagon, especially when there'snot a paycheck involved or any
type of direct compensation.
I began to think what could I doto actually impact the world in
a positive way?
that was, that was morescalable.
And there was an invention I wasworking on.
I don't think I've mentioned it.
Hardly at all on my podcast, butI can assure you I've been
(05:32):
working on it.
Since, uh, before the podcasteven started.
For from the very first podcast,this was a big thing I was
working on.
And that is the sprout spout.
By the time you hear this.
The sprout spout will havelaunched, and it has a Shopify
page.
And mostly up until last week,it was just like friends and
(05:53):
family who check in and they'retrying to be supportive.
Here and there someone would seea post on Instagram or something
and give it a shot.
But that is starting to change.
last week, true leaf market, putus in their newsletter.
We had a nice little bump insales.
And next week.
Next week, I'm going to LasVegas.
(06:13):
To pitch to the pros.
It is a very big deal.
There's some very big names inthere.
And that panel is going toinclude.
Damon, John who you may knowfrom shark tank.
It's also got Christopher Guverawho's who's been on shark tank a
few times.
Yvette Taylor ruder.
Humal you're Jason Feifer,Courtney spritzer, and my good
(06:37):
friend karma.
These are very powerful peoplein the industry that I'm super
humbled that they're even givingme the time of day.
my very good friend, the carmind.
ENESCO and I I'm cautious when Isay the term, my good friend,
because.
You know, a lot of times whenyou had these guests they're
friendly and they'reacquaintances.
(06:58):
but this is Carmen and I go backand we've been through some
stuff together.
And I had the opportunity tospend a day with him last month.
And, he's someone I think veryhighly of, I think, He, he comes
across as a little bit of an oldschool, like new Yorker, kind of
a brash.
But man, let me tell you whenyou need help, that guy's there.
(07:20):
And he has served me in waysthat I can tell you right now.
I wouldn't be talking about thesprouts bout right now.
If it weren't for Carmine.
I'm so blessed.
To have people in my corner whohave come out of nowhere.
Effectively nowhere and said, Iwant to help you get to the next
(07:42):
level.
And the biggest thing I want toleave you with today.
Is that.
Steven Pressfield has a bookcalled, the war on art, I
believe is what it's called.
the work.
And.
In it, he talks about thedifferent stages you go through
(08:05):
when you are on your personalhero's journey.
And if you know anything aboutJoseph Campbell, who came up
with the philosophy of thehero's journey, it's based on.
You know, The thousands of theseancient legends that people
would talk about in the old daysof brome and Greek mythology and
(08:26):
all these things.
But the point is this.
When you embark on the hero'sjourney.
And everyone has the opportunityin their life to have their own
hero's journey.
It doesn't mean that everybodytakes it.
And the first part of a hero'sjourney is that they generally
refuse the call or they don'treally want to do it.
(08:48):
It becomes to where they feellike they almost don't have a
choice.
That is how I exactly how I feelwith the sprouts Spout.
It was something that was fun.
It was entertaining.
And then when it became super,super real, and it was sink or
swim, I had to make the choice.
Is this just a fun?
(09:08):
Project that I'm bragging to myfriends that I'm actually
building this thing.
Or am I willing to actuallyspend much like I was with the
podcast nights and weekends anda heck of a lot of money to
bring this thing to the world.
And once that decision was made,it was only the beginning in if
(09:30):
I had known what was ahead ofme.
If someone had said this iswhat's going to happen, my
younger self who solved this.
Would have never stepped up.
But alas.
here I am and I am in whatPressfield would refer to as the
belly of the beast.
I'm in that mode where right nowfor the last month or two, it
(09:50):
feels like.
If I blink for one second, thisproject will disappear.
This product will disappear fromthe world.
And I don't want that to happen.
So.
I have.
Burned the ships behind me.
If you will.
I have made commitments topeople, commitments to places.
I have spent a lot of money.
(10:11):
I have invested a lot of things.
To change the person who I am.
We will have an entire podcaston how the person I am has been
changing.
But for now, what I want to tellyou is I've made the decision.
That I am here to make the worlda healthier place.
This Sprout spout is undeniablymy best achievement in terms of
(10:37):
making the world a healthierplace.
I was always an ambassador ofhealth.
I can think of some wonderfulpeople that.
I ended up convincing them tostart taking care of themself
and running or biking or eating.
Right.
And when they come up to me,five, 10 years later, it really
flatters me when they say, youknow, I was a mess and then you
were constantly staying on meand I find lonely, you know, I
(10:59):
just stepped in, or you ran withme that time or you started
critiquing my food and helped meget my diet under control.
Those are great.
Things that I will take with meto the grave.
But I also had to startquestioning.
These are, these are small, likeoccasional things.
When they fall into my hands,it's not the kind of thing I've
sought out and tried to scaleup, beyond my local, like circle
(11:23):
of friends.
So the Sprouse Mount was my wayof saying this is something that
can scale.
And impact the world in apositive way.
As Steve jobs would say, it's myway of putting a dent in the
universe.
So.
Cheers for joining back on thepodcast.
I'm so grateful that you did.
(11:43):
If you go in and put a review,especially on apple.
That would be helpful.
That's my call to action foryou.
we're going to be going througha lot of action calls that I
have for myself over the nextfew weeks.
And I plan to keep you in theloop.
If you have any questions thatyou want me to address on the
podcast.
You know how to get ahold of mejust going to Instagram@DPlucas,
(12:07):
send me a note.
I'll I'll try to go through itand put it on my podcast notes
of things to research.
We have a lot to cover togetherover the next.
Several months.
I look forward to the journey.
Thank you for joining.
Hi, it's Daniel.
Welcome back to chasing energy.
Yes.
I took a little bit of a break.
And for good reason, I wasspending a lot of time editing
the podcast and it didn't seemto be gathering a lot of
traction.
And when you combine those twothings, it becomes harder to
sort of keep the podcast going.
So lack of reviews, a lack offeedback and things like that
(00:29):
caused me to question how muchtime I was spending on the
podcast.
Now, I'm sure you're not reallyinterested in my problems, but
I'm giving you the reason thatit just became a big time.
Suck for me.
I used to wonder when peoplewould stop podcasting.
I'd be like, man, they quit.
I can't believe they quit.
And then I became that person.
(00:49):
So now I'm going to answer thequestion.
Why am I recording after ahiatus?
There's a couple of reasons.
One is that I get questionsevery so often.
When are you bringing thepodcast back to which I think to
myself, Where were you when Iasked for reviews and things
like that, but it is good toknow.
It gives me a tingle inside.
When I think that other peopleare listening this and that it
(01:11):
somehow some way brings value totheir life.
The other part of that is.
Is that.
I am constantly researching andgathering information and I've.
During my mini mini.
S voice journaling sessions,where I talked to myself and
think about things and you know,what am I doing?
(01:31):
I've become a little moreconvinced.
That it's kind of selfish togather all this information and
then do nothing with it.
I.
Essentially just use it formyself.
And I had a friend tell me theother day they were saying one
of your gifts is that you taketopics that are intimidating and
very frustrating to people incertainly in regards to health.
(01:53):
There's other topics as well.
And you tend to break them downinto ways that people
understand.
Now.
There might've been a little bitof flattering there.
I don't know, but it, it stuckwith me enough to say it might
be time for me to do a few moreepisodes and see if it's a
little better received.
The last reason that I'mbringing the podcast back.
(02:14):
Or at least the last reason I'mgoing to mention today.
Is that I have been paying forthings like Buzzsprout and
Descript, which for my podcastediting tools.
And just for giggles the otherday, I was like, man, I'm paying
for these tools every month.
I should at least get in thereand make some projects for
YouTube or Instagram.
And when I started playing withthem, I realized how far the AI
(02:36):
has come.
Now.
AI is integrated into tools likethe script and what used to take
me many, probably at least twohours of diligent work.
Would take me probably six to 10minutes now.
So when I saw that I becameconvinced.
Okay.
(02:56):
Maybe instead of two nights aweek, I can get it down to one
night, a week.
The thing that I'm going tomention about to you about
moving forward with the podcast?
I don't know if it wasinsecurity or what, but I very
rarely did any type of solo castwhere I just gave you
information that I was workingon or an insight that maybe I
found useful.
I spent so much time trying tofind guests for the podcast and
(03:21):
get on their schedule and dothings like that.
It became kind of frustratingfor me, especially when, you
know, when you're kind of anunknown podcaster.
Not a lot of people are fightingto get on your podcast, man.
They're kind of like, who areyou?
Why.
And I had some really wonderfulguest.
I'm very, very proud of those,but here's my point.
(03:43):
I'm not going to make my postingof this podcast contingent on
having a guest, in fact, I'mprobably not going to seek them
out as actively as I used to.
If I can find one on a topicthat I'm trying to research or
they, I think they haveinformation to share.
I'm going to bring them on.
Otherwise, I'm going to sharewith you some insights that I'm
(04:03):
working on.
And maybe some information thatI'm struggling with, this is a
two way conversation because Ialways keep the line open.
You can always just reach out tome at DP Lucas on Instagram,
send me a message posting.
One of my comments.
But that's I keep the channelsopen and then there's always the
review boards on, the pod, yourlocal podcast listing, which I
(04:26):
make.
Sure that this podcast is listedjust about everywhere.
So the last thing I want to talkto you about today is what have
I been working on over the last.
Year.
And a half ish since the podcastis basically not been updated
since then.
And I think it's going to bevery, very obvious that I've
(04:48):
been very busy.
I was.
Starting to question whetherthis podcast was impacting the
world.
And I think that was a healthyquestion because I just didn't
see a lot of, view counts andthings like that.
And just like I said, I startedto question amount of time.
I was spending.
once you take two weeks off, itis very hard to get back on that
(05:10):
wagon, especially when there'snot a paycheck involved or any
type of direct compensation.
I began to think what could I doto actually impact the world in
a positive way?
that was, that was morescalable.
And there was an invention I wasworking on.
I don't think I've mentioned it.
Hardly at all on my podcast, butI can assure you I've been
(05:32):
working on it.
Since, uh, before the podcasteven started.
For from the very first podcast,this was a big thing I was
working on.
And that is the sprout spout.
By the time you hear this.
The sprout spout will havelaunched, and it has a Shopify
page.
And mostly up until last week,it was just like friends and
(05:53):
family who check in and they'retrying to be supportive.
Here and there someone would seea post on Instagram or something
and give it a shot.
But that is starting to change.
last week, true leaf market, putus in their newsletter.
We had a nice little bump insales.
And next week.
Next week, I'm going to LasVegas.
(06:13):
To pitch to the pros.
It is a very big deal.
There's some very big names inthere.
And that panel is going toinclude.
Damon, John who you may knowfrom shark tank.
It's also got Christopher Guverawho's who's been on shark tank a
few times.
Yvette Taylor ruder.
Humal you're Jason Feifer,Courtney spritzer, and my good
(06:37):
friend karma.
These are very powerful peoplein the industry that I'm super
humbled that they're even givingme the time of day.
my very good friend, the carmind.
ENESCO and I I'm cautious when Isay the term, my good friend,
because.
You know, a lot of times whenyou had these guests they're
friendly and they'reacquaintances.
(06:58):
but this is Carmen and I go backand we've been through some
stuff together.
And I had the opportunity tospend a day with him last month.
And, he's someone I think veryhighly of, I think, He, he comes
across as a little bit of an oldschool, like new Yorker, kind of
a brash.
But man, let me tell you whenyou need help, that guy's there.
(07:20):
And he has served me in waysthat I can tell you right now.
I wouldn't be talking about thesprouts bout right now.
If it weren't for Carmine.
I'm so blessed.
To have people in my corner whohave come out of nowhere.
Effectively nowhere and said, Iwant to help you get to the next
(07:42):
level.
And the biggest thing I want toleave you with today.
Is that.
Steven Pressfield has a bookcalled, the war on art, I
believe is what it's called.
the work.
And.
In it, he talks about thedifferent stages you go through
(08:05):
when you are on your personalhero's journey.
And if you know anything aboutJoseph Campbell, who came up
with the philosophy of thehero's journey, it's based on.
You know, The thousands of theseancient legends that people
would talk about in the old daysof brome and Greek mythology and
(08:26):
all these things.
But the point is this.
When you embark on the hero'sjourney.
And everyone has the opportunityin their life to have their own
hero's journey.
It doesn't mean that everybodytakes it.
And the first part of a hero'sjourney is that they generally
refuse the call or they don'treally want to do it.
(08:48):
It becomes to where they feellike they almost don't have a
choice.
That is how I exactly how I feelwith the sprouts Spout.
It was something that was fun.
It was entertaining.
And then when it became super,super real, and it was sink or
swim, I had to make the choice.
Is this just a fun?
(09:08):
Project that I'm bragging to myfriends that I'm actually
building this thing.
Or am I willing to actuallyspend much like I was with the
podcast nights and weekends anda heck of a lot of money to
bring this thing to the world.
And once that decision was made,it was only the beginning in if
(09:30):
I had known what was ahead ofme.
If someone had said this iswhat's going to happen, my
younger self who solved this.
Would have never stepped up.
But alas.
here I am and I am in whatPressfield would refer to as the
belly of the beast.
I'm in that mode where right nowfor the last month or two, it
(09:50):
feels like.
If I blink for one second, thisproject will disappear.
This product will disappear fromthe world.
And I don't want that to happen.
So.
I have.
Burned the ships behind me.
If you will.
I have made commitments topeople, commitments to places.
I have spent a lot of money.
(10:11):
I have invested a lot of things.
To change the person who I am.
We will have an entire podcaston how the person I am has been
changing.
But for now, what I want to tellyou is I've made the decision.
That I am here to make the worlda healthier place.
This Sprout spout is undeniablymy best achievement in terms of
(10:37):
making the world a healthierplace.
I was always an ambassador ofhealth.
I can think of some wonderfulpeople that.
I ended up convincing them tostart taking care of themself
and running or biking or eating.
Right.
And when they come up to me,five, 10 years later, it really
flatters me when they say, youknow, I was a mess and then you
were constantly staying on meand I find lonely, you know, I
(10:59):
just stepped in, or you ran withme that time or you started
critiquing my food and helped meget my diet under control.
Those are great.
Things that I will take with meto the grave.
But I also had to startquestioning.
These are, these are small, likeoccasional things.
When they fall into my hands,it's not the kind of thing I've
sought out and tried to scaleup, beyond my local, like circle
(11:23):
of friends.
So the Sprouse Mount was my wayof saying this is something that
can scale.
And impact the world in apositive way.
As Steve jobs would say, it's myway of putting a dent in the
universe.
So.
Cheers for joining back on thepodcast.
I'm so grateful that you did.
(11:43):
If you go in and put a review,especially on apple.
That would be helpful.
That's my call to action foryou.
we're going to be going througha lot of action calls that I
have for myself over the nextfew weeks.
And I plan to keep you in theloop.
If you have any questions thatyou want me to address on the
podcast.
You know how to get ahold of mejust going to Instagram@DPlucas,
(12:07):
send me a note.
I'll I'll try to go through itand put it on my podcast notes
of things to research.
We have a lot to cover togetherover the next.
Several months.
I look forward to the journey.
Thank you for joining.
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