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What happens when the world's most famous mouse couple calls it quits? Aaron and Aaron tackle this hilariously complex hypothetical scenario by dividing up the most valuable asset in this animated divorce: Disneyland itself.

Armed with shots of tequila and guided by special guest mediator Eli, the hosts transform into rival attorneys representing Mickey and Minnie in increasingly specific negotiations. Their property division follows an unexpected guiding principle: Mickey embodies "fun and excitement" while Minnie represents "elegance and fashion." This distinction drives their decisions about who deserves what throughout the park.

The negotiations get surprisingly heated over dining locations, with Plaza Inn and Blue Bayou becoming particularly contentious properties. When dividing Disneyland's lands, Mickey claims Main Street, Tomorrowland, and Frontierland, while Minnie receives New Orleans Square, Fantasyland, and Adventureland. The castle becomes shared property, with careful stipulations about princess appearances and parade routes.

Character custody arrangements follow naturally from their established personas—Mickey keeps his pals Goofy, Donald and Pluto, while Minnie gets Daisy and Clarabelle. The hosts demonstrate impressive Disney knowledge throughout, referencing everything from merchandise trends to restaurant atmospheres with the precision of true park enthusiasts.

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Aaron W. (00:00):
Hello and welcome to Cheers, to Ears, where today we
are drinking shots of tequila.
Why are we drinking shots oftequila?
Oh, for a good reason.
For a good reason Because we'rediscussing what if Mickey and
Minnie got a divorce, got a?

Aaron D. (00:12):
divorce Right, we're assuming they're married.

Aaron W. (00:16):
We're assuming they're married.
I didn't look up.
I was going to look up thathistory too, and I did not.

Aaron D. (00:26):
But if you look at the Great Vacation, at the great
vacation and mickey's runawayrailway, he's going to pick her
up, right vacation fun, right?
So they probably weren'tmarried, so they have their own
houses they have their ownhouses, even in toontown.

Aaron W. (00:30):
In toontown I don't know.
So assuming they're married forthis, if they because I was
gonna look it up, because myargument was going to be for
mickey that if he had all thisstuff before they even met, yeah
, he didn't right't Right Beforethey were married.

Aaron D. (00:44):
Oh yeah, Property laws California.
It's all his Right.

Aaron W. (00:48):
I would just drop the mic and walk away.
But there are no prenups.
There weren't any prenups.

Aaron D. (00:52):
No, no, because Mickey's not that smart.

Aaron W. (00:54):
But Walt was, though, and he had Walt on his side, did
he, Did he?
I bet you're going to talkabout that.
Since you just said it likethat, I bet you have things to
say.
I don't know.
I'm totally scared on what'sgoing to come out of Aaron's
mouth on this episode.
That's why we have the tequila.

Aaron D. (01:11):
So we're doing three shots of tequila.
We are With this.
Tell us how you made those,aaron?
By pouring the tequila in theglass.
But we're doing tequila becauseI imagine neither one of us
experiencing a divorce that youwould probably drink a lot of
tequila if you were goingthrough a divorce Sounded right
when we decided on this episode.

Aaron W. (01:28):
It sounds like it.

Aaron D. (01:29):
And you can get a flight of tequila at a Disney
park.
You can.
Where would you go to?

Aaron W. (01:35):
get a flight of tequila.
You would go to San Angel inRestaurante.
And where is that?
At Epcot.
It's at Epcot, the MexicoPavilion, right.
So in the Mexico Pavilion theyhave four different flights of
tequila, and I won't mentionthem here because it's a long
list of the different tequilasand the flights.
They start at $21.
And the second up ones, thesecond below one's $25 and $38.

(01:57):
And the top one's $40.

Aaron D. (01:58):
Yeah, there's a mezcal .

Aaron W. (02:00):
Right.

Aaron D. (02:01):
That's the lowest, if that's your thing.

Aaron W. (02:04):
Yeah, so they all look good.
Ones that create your owntraditional and their own those
have different tequila flightsyou can get.

Aaron D. (02:09):
So, like those, we are doing one Blanco, one Reposado
and one Añejo, right.
So we're starting with a BlancoEl Himador.
Okay, blanco tequila, and we'rejust taking shots.
Yeah, cheers, blanco tequilaand we're just taking shots.
Cheers, cheers.

Aaron W. (02:25):
Not bad, that was smoother than I thought that was
very smooth.
I don't think I said that likeit was smoother.

Aaron D. (02:31):
A little bit of burnout.
Should have had a little lime.

Aaron W. (02:36):
Right, so for this discussion.
We had a discussion a few weeksago, yeah.

Aaron D. (02:41):
About when.

Aaron W. (02:42):
About villains.

Aaron D. (02:43):
About villains debating who was worse and we
needed a moderator.

Aaron W. (02:47):
Right, aaron and I just argued the whole time and
came up with zero conclusionsand nothing, but we're still
arguing over it today.

Aaron D. (02:52):
Yeah.

Aaron W. (02:53):
Because, I'm right, we brought in my son.
Eli's home from college for aspring break right now.
Judge advocate Eli and sincehe's a celebrated guest of our
podcast, he's back.
Welcome Eli.

Aaron D. (03:07):
Yes, thank you, and we even gave him a microphone.

Aaron W. (03:10):
this time I have my very own microphone.
This time we didn't have toshare, right, we're coming up in
the world, people.
Yes.

Aaron D. (03:16):
So we broke it down.
Yeah, different categories.
I will be the lawyer for MinnieMouse.
Correct, aaron will be thelawyer for Mickey.
And we've got to decide what todo with Disneyland.
And we cut it off at Disneylandbecause this could get long.

Aaron W. (03:30):
Right, hopefully it's not too long.
Anyway, eli, come in anytimeyou want.
You're in charge of theconversation.
If it gets too crazy, stop us.

Aaron D. (03:39):
We might need to appeal to the judge in deciding
who gets what.

Aaron W. (03:45):
I did not prepare an opening statement, did you?
No, I did not.

Aaron D. (03:48):
Okay, I almost did, minnie deserves everything for
putting up with Mickey's crap.
That's my opening statement.
Here's the bottle of Reposado.

Aaron W. (03:56):
Mickey's crap.
I object, that's hearsay.

Eli W. (04:01):
Sustained, sustained.

Aaron W. (04:04):
I think the judge has bought you guys at the same time
okay, so I started withclothing and merchandise okay, I
did not.
That wasn't so already.
Already we're at odds.
Yeah, because that wasn't partof our original agreement, of
what we're going to talk abouttoday.
Last week, when we discussed,we didn't talk about stuff.
Clothing and merchandise wasnot on the list so.

(04:25):
But so I object already and Ithink that it should just be
split 50 50 on the on the groundokay, so here's bringing it up
50, 50 and I'd like a recess

Eli W. (04:35):
he's offering 50, 50 anyway mini is offering 50.

Aaron D. (04:38):
50 except on ear revenue.
It should 100 for many forMinnie.

Aaron W. (04:43):
I'm going to be fair this entire time.
I'm not going to try to rip.
I think this is an amicaldivorce.

Aaron D. (04:50):
I don't, I'm not better but I'm happier.

Aaron W. (04:54):
There's no way, mickey cheated.

Aaron D. (04:56):
Yeah, he did.
There's no way he walked aroundwithout clothes on.

Aaron W. (04:59):
He's the happiest nicest guy he's a rat.
No, he's so nice that DonaldDuck was invented.
This is true.
Oh, that's a good point.
So so I'm making many ears arethe biggest thing at Disneyland.
Yes, as far as merchandise goes, right, and that's only fair,
because Mickey ears were, theystarted with Mickey ears, but

(05:19):
there's no like as, being malesthat go to the park, mickey ears
are stupid.

Aaron D. (05:24):
Yeah, a little.
There's no like as being malesthat go to the park.
Mickey ears are stupid.
Yeah, a little yarmulke withears on them right it's, there's
, no, there's, no.

Aaron W. (05:27):
There's that one leather set they sell.
That's the only option, and youhave to have a small head, big
headed people like me and theonly work on, the only
celebration of those is patrickwarburton on soren over
california.

Aaron D. (05:42):
And these little beauties, oh, the cap ones, yeah
ones.
Yeah Right, the ones with thecap on it.

Eli W. (05:45):
The baseball cap one is fine, too Right.

Aaron W. (05:46):
they were fun when I was a kid.
They're good for little kids,but for male adults, Mickey ears
, there's not a good option.
So you're agreeing with that.
I agree with that, Okay.

Aaron D. (06:00):
Minnie would also like to retain control over all
clothing merchandise decisions,since mickey's clothing choices
aren't all that great, does hejust wear?
Shorts and when she look, whenmickey looks good, it's because
of many those.
She gets 100 a year revenue.
She gets to make all thedecisions for clothing
merchandise and everything elseis split 50 50 okay, so clothing

(06:23):
.

Aaron W. (06:23):
So I will concede to that if you will agree that many
is the elegant one and mickeyis split 50 50.
Okay, so clothing.
So I will concede to that ifyou will agree that minnie is
the elegant one and mickey isthe fun one.
Yes, okay, going forward.
I like that on the record.
Mickey's fun, mickey's fun andexcite, exciting.
Okay, minnie's elegant andfashionable.
She is okay.

Eli W. (06:40):
Let's move on my job is easy so far.

Aaron D. (06:42):
So please enter that into the record.

Eli W. (06:44):
Judgy like I don't have my typewriter so noted that's
the stare.

Aaron W. (06:50):
That's the.
What's that called this?
What's the person?

Eli W. (06:52):
called the court recorder the court recorder.

Aaron D. (06:54):
Right, yeah, she's over here okay thank you, ma'am
okay, should we move on to food?

Aaron W. (07:00):
food.
I also didn't.
I did dining Dining places yeah, is that what you did?
Okay, yeah.

Aaron D. (07:05):
So, minnie, first off, minnie is she's willing to
relinquish all claims to allsnack locations, since most are
shaped like Mickey anyway,except she wants full control
over.
She wants Maurice's treats.
She likes a you know, a twistCheshire cattail or you know all
that type of stuff.
That's the one snack locationshe wants.

Aaron W. (07:26):
Okay, so I'll concede to Maurice's treats if all
restaurants on Main Street areMickey's.
No, there's no restaurants onMain Street that Mickey and
Minnie would even need.

Aaron D. (07:37):
Carnation Cafe.
Why?
Because she wants it.
No, that's not good enough.

Aaron W. (07:41):
That's not good enough .
Main Street restaurants areMickey.
They say Mickey Okay, CarnationCafe and Mickey Gets Blue Bayou
.

Aaron D. (07:49):
No, definitely not.
She's elegant, but you wantCarnation.

Aaron W. (07:54):
Cafe isn't elegant.

Aaron D. (07:56):
It's Disney elegant, no it's Main Street, elegant.

Aaron W. (08:00):
You can't do that.

Aaron D. (08:01):
It's either elegant or not.
Marisa's.

Aaron W. (08:04):
Treats is on Main Street, I would like.

Aaron D. (08:06):
And that's what you're getting.
This isn't even no, it isn't.
It's over by Royal, the RoyalTheater, okay.

Aaron W. (08:12):
Yeah, carnation Cafe is a total Mickey hangout,
because it's fun and relaxing.
You get a soda that's totallyMickey.

Aaron D. (08:18):
Hey guys, what's going on as he walks in?
You have to make reservations.
Have you ever eaten there?

Eli W. (08:22):
Yeah, you don't just walk up there.
I need a gavel.
Okay, let's step back, becausewe're not even talking about
restaurants yet.

Aaron D. (08:30):
So you guys are arguing before you even decide
about snacks.

Aaron W. (08:33):
Yes, we just started into restaurants.
Yeah, snacks and restaurants,snacks and restaurants.

Eli W. (08:36):
But he's conceding to all the snack locations.

Aaron W. (08:40):
Okay, except for.

Aaron D. (08:41):
Maurice's treats.

Eli W. (08:42):
Except for Maurice's treats.

Aaron W. (08:43):
So you're saying no to that.
That's just snacks, do you wantthat?
I'm worried this dining thingis going to be too rough Before
we get to it.

Aaron D. (08:52):
I will concede to that , I'm being way easy, Enter it
into the record.
So Gibson Girl Ice Cream,Parlor Carnation Cafe and Plaza
Inn Are the three on Main Street.
Minnie wants all of those.
I was thinking Gibson Girl.
No way, there's no way she gets.

Aaron W. (09:04):
Parlor Carnation Cafe and Plaza Inn are the three on
Main Street Right, minnie wantsall of those.
I was thinking Gibson Girl.
No way, there's no way.
She gets Plaza Inn, absolutelynot.
That's a Mickey place, 100%.
It's on Main Street.
That's Mickey's house is MainStreet no that's Walt's
childhood home.

Aaron D. (09:20):
Walt is Mickey's best friend.
Mickey never went there.
I think Roy was Mickey's bestfriend.
Mickey never went there.
I think Roy was Walt's bestfriend, plaza Inn is 100% Mickey
.
Misrepresentation of WaltDisney.

Aaron W. (09:31):
That's a non-starter with Plaza Inn.
Mickey gets Plaza Inn.

Aaron D. (09:34):
Then Minnie gets Carnation Cafe Fair and Gibson
Girl the ice cream parlor.
Why two for one?
You can have Casey's Corner,the little slushy.

Aaron W. (09:43):
Why two for one?
Why is this two for one?
You can have Casey's Corner.
Why two for one?
Why is this two for one thing?

Aaron D. (09:46):
Because Plaza Inn isn't just Plaza Inn, it's the
one character breakfast in thepark, correct?
Yeah, it's a twofer, that islike for like Gibson Girl.

Aaron W. (09:56):
Ice Cream Parlor.
I didn't even have Gibson.

Aaron D. (09:58):
So okay, that's fair, because I didn't have Gibson
Girl on my radar it's somethingI wanted, mickey doesn't want
gifts and you can have carne oruh casey's that's fine.

Aaron W. (10:06):
I'll take that too with plaza and as long as I have
plaza in, okay in there,because that's a total mickey
place entered into the record.

Aaron D. (10:12):
It was our first mini note of contention.
Yep, mini gets carnation andgibson girl ice cream parlor,
you get plaza in and casey'sokay, let's talk about.

Aaron W. (10:21):
So let's talk about the other places should, should
we talk about Blue Bayou next?

Aaron D. (10:25):
Okay.
So all of French Quarter, allof the restaurants Blue Bayou,
Cafe, Orleans, Tiana's Palaceand I'm going to throw in the
beignets on top of that.

Aaron W. (10:35):
What.

Aaron D. (10:36):
For that we're willing to give Mickey full control
over Frontierland and Galaxy'sEdge.

Aaron W. (10:42):
Wait a minute, you're bringing in other things we're
not talking about yet.
We're not even there yet.

Aaron D. (10:46):
Well, that's part of my negotiation.

Aaron W. (10:47):
I'm concerned what you're going to bring in when we
start talking about lands.
You're going to say you alreadyhave these two, I want these
later, after you alreadydiscussed it in this portion.
So I don't want that.
I don't want to startdiscussing the other lands
because you're going to say, oh,you already have this and
you're going to throw acurveball at me at the end.
I don't want that.

Aaron D. (11:06):
I want to discuss that Diane.
I don't want to trade or havelands, Blue Bayou, Riverbell
Terrace, Cafe Orleans andTiana's Palace.

Aaron W. (11:14):
They have to be split up.

Aaron D. (11:16):
They have to be split up.

Aaron W. (11:17):
Tiana's and.
Blue Bayou and New Orleans.
They have to be split up.
There's no way you get allthree of those.

Aaron D. (11:23):
Now I'm including Riverbell Terrace into this mix,
because it's right there, okay.
And then there's the littlekiosk window.

Aaron W. (11:31):
So those are the kiosk windows in Tiana's French
Quarter.
French Quarter, yes, right, no,I would say.
So which is more important toyou, blue Bayou or Tiana's?

Aaron D. (11:51):
Blue Bayou is definitely the more elegant.
It's more elegant of the twothan diana's is that.

Aaron W. (11:53):
Is that what you're tiana being a princess, it
should have the, the feminineaspect to it.
You're gonna, so then you'regonna go into.
You're gonna say this now andthen go into.
You want, you want tiana'sbayou adventure because of a
princess yes, you can't do that?
Yes, because it's not.
Tiana's bayou adventure is of aprincess.
Yes, you can't do that.
Yes, because princess Tiana'sBayou Adventure is not a
princess ride, she is a princess.
She's a princess on a ride, andTiana's Palace is not a
princess joint, it's a chefjoint.

Eli W. (12:15):
I think it's fair to say that Minnie and Mickey don't
have separate connections to theprincesses.
I think that they both haveequal connections when it comes
to even though the princessesare feminine.
I don't think that Minnie ismore connected to them than
Mickey is, but she's more.

Aaron D. (12:30):
she will make decisions that will align more
with their thoughts on how therestaurant should be run.

Aaron W. (12:37):
I disagree because Tiana's Palace is totally a fun,
hip, cool joint to go to.
I'll concede, blue Bayou ismore elegant and Minnie could
probably make better decisionsthere, but for Tiana's Palace
there is no way.
That's a fun, vibrant joint,that's all Mickey.
Mickey is fun and vibrant.
We've already established this.

Aaron D. (12:57):
So there's the Mint Julep Bar, and the Mint Julep
Bar is in Tiana's.

Aaron W. (13:01):
Palace, the Royal Street, veranda.

Eli W. (13:05):
No, it is its own location.
It's outside of I think.
Well, it's in the seating area.
It's in the same seating areaas Tiana's Palace, Right.

Aaron D. (13:11):
You have to walk, yeah , but you can take it to go.

Aaron W. (13:13):
It's right outside, it is not, it's right outside of
Tiana's Palace.

Aaron D. (13:25):
It's connected and Blue Bayou and Royal.

Aaron W. (13:26):
Street Veranda, for just for that you want.
Yeah, because you have thosetwo I have.
That's not even two, it's one.
It's a place inside, it's thesame place.

Aaron D. (13:30):
You have to pay separately.
Those are two different.
You order separately on the app.
You have to approach themseparately on the app.

Aaron W. (13:36):
That's not.
You have two sit downrestaurants for me having a sit
down restaurant and a littlekiosk outside that's connected
to the restaurant.

Eli W. (13:43):
I don't think that's fair, mainly because revenue
would be so skewed toward.

Aaron D. (13:48):
Now will it.
Have you ever seen the line atthe Mint Julep Bar?

Eli W. (13:53):
Yeah, but how much money are people spending on average
at the Mint Julep Bar?

Aaron D. (13:57):
5,000 people spending $10, $12 a piece, yeah, but how
many people do you think wouldgo into Cafe Orleans and Dubai?

Eli W. (14:01):
There's no line how many people would go into Cafe
Orleans and Blue Bayou?
There's no line.

Aaron W. (14:04):
The two places you're saying are sit-downs with
reservations, and so there is noline because they don't have a
standby line.

Aaron D. (14:10):
You're right.
So we see the line is notrelevant in this situation.
They don't have as many people.
They could, you don't know howmany reservations they take a
day.
Those two locations have anequal amount.

Aaron W. (14:19):
The record does not show profit margin and how many
seats they use a day at BlueBayou.
This is not in the record.
You have no idea how much moneythat place turns out every day.

Aaron D. (14:29):
Okay, you can have Royal Street brand as well.

Aaron W. (14:31):
No, I want Blue Bayou or Cafe Orleans.
One of the two, you don't getboth.

Aaron D. (14:35):
Those are more the elegant, and that was your
decision.
Nope, she gets elegant, you getfun.
So those are the fun ones.
Cafe Orleans is not fun, itleans more towards elegance.

Aaron W. (14:46):
Okay, so we can—.

Aaron D. (14:48):
Appealing to the judge advocate Eli.

Eli W. (14:50):
I don't know.
I don't think that they bothshould go to Minnie.
I'm going to have to disagreewith that.

Aaron D. (14:55):
No, no, we're talking about rule of law here.

Eli W. (14:57):
My question before the court is— the elegancy is not a
rule of law.

Aaron D. (15:01):
Hold on.
That was the precedentestablished.

Eli W. (15:05):
That's a precedent on the personality of Minnie and
Mickey.

Aaron D. (15:10):
And we were making—.

Aaron W. (15:10):
We were also talking about how much we can make from
having the part two.

Aaron D. (15:13):
Hold on.
We were making decisions basedoff of what you said Elegance
versus fun.
So is Cafe Orleans more elegantor is it more fun?
I want a ruling, okay.

Aaron W. (15:25):
I'll accept that ruling.

Aaron D. (15:26):
Okay, I don't think I'll accept that ruling.
No, no, this is going tocontinue on.
If this is going to continue onlike this.

Aaron W. (15:31):
if all fun stuff are going to be Mickey's, I'm good.
Everything fun in the park isgoing to be Mickey's from now on
after this park.
Yeah, I think this is a fair.

Eli W. (15:38):
Anything elegant.
If you're going to enter thatyou're going to say Cafe Orleans
and Blue Bayou is just going tobe elegant, then you can't
expect Mickey not to have allthe roller coasters.

Aaron W. (15:52):
All the fun stuff's going to be Mickey's after this
and almost all the rides.

Eli W. (15:56):
Because there's no elegant rides Really.

Aaron D. (15:59):
I mean there is Rise of the Resistance.
Isn't an elegant ride?
No, it's not.
It's much more fun than elegant, that's much more fun than
elegant.

Aaron W. (16:03):
It is fun.
Is that what you want yourdecision to?

Eli W. (16:06):
be, let's move on.
But here we go.
Blue Bayou is also fun, okay,so here's the deal.

Aaron D. (16:09):
So this is a court.
Now do we need to have thejudge recuse himself for bias?

Eli W. (16:15):
Bias Whoa.

Aaron W. (16:17):
We're at Mississippi now Because I'm arguing now with
we're going fun the rest of thetime and elegant, that's our,
that's our main focus.
We just this, this case turnedinto that it's your guys
decision I I'm all concede tothat.
Is it mickey's fun?
Yeah, I think that blue bayouand kathy orleans are both
definitely more elegant that'sthe basis of our decision so
that's the argument you want tomake then yeah, no for the rest

(16:39):
of the time no, not for the risk.

Eli W. (16:41):
No, you can't just say it for one time.
That's the problem.
I can't.
You can't just say it for onetime and not another.
See, that's the problem.
You can't just use the argumentfor one thing.

Aaron W. (16:47):
Yeah, I will concede to that.
If that's what we're doing therest of the time, it's fun
versus elegant.
That's our thing, judge.
I think that's fair.

Eli W. (16:53):
If you're going to set a standard, so you get both, but
we're going fun versus elegant.

Aaron W. (16:57):
the rest of this trial Okay, let's more fun.

Aaron D. (17:03):
No claim to that.

Aaron W. (17:04):
Okay, the Tiki Juice Bar.
More fun, nope.

Eli W. (17:07):
Isn't that a snack?
It's not elegant at all, Ithink that would be a snack.
It is Well, yeah.

Aaron W. (17:11):
Yeah, you already have that.
Okay, I already have the snack,but there's Hideaway.
Okay, the Hideaway Cafe, and oh, yeah, that's more fun?

Eli W. (17:19):
Which one's the hideaway cafe?
There's nothing really fun orelegant about it.

Aaron D. (17:24):
Which one?
Yeah, it is.
It's Baobabs.
What's fun about it?
It's just a place to eat.
Who in the history of Disneyhas ever said, hey, let's go to
Tropical Hideaway because it'sfun?
Yeah, or hey, let's go toTropical Hideaway because it's
elegant.
You're right Is that the placewith the skewers?
No, that would be Bengalbarbecue.

Eli W. (17:44):
Oh, okay.

Aaron D. (17:45):
Yeah, we have no claim for that one.
I didn't put Bengal barbecue assomething.

Aaron W. (17:49):
We can share Bengal barbecue.
Honestly, I'm willing to sharewhat we don't discuss.
I think we should share.

Aaron D. (17:54):
Okay, the only two that she would like Red Rose
Tavern and Jolly Holiday.
No claim on anything else.

Aaron W. (18:01):
I agree that Minnie deserves Red Rose Tavern.
I have that Minnie deserves RedRose Tavern.
I have that written down.
That's something she needs.
I totally agree, as I am notbitter at all and I didn't cheat
.
And Jolly Holiday.
My person, my Mickey, didn'tcheat and Jolly Holiday, that's
fine.

Aaron D. (18:14):
Jolly Holiday, I agree , and everything else.
There's no claim.
The barbecue Hungry Bearbarbecue anything in
Tomorrowland, in fact she wouldprefer that you take all of
Tomorrowland's restaurants.
I think, I think we should, soI think for the meaning of this
court.

Aaron W. (18:30):
As part of the divorce decree, we close Tomorrowland
restaurants.
Would we agree?

Aaron D. (18:37):
Yes, minnie agrees to that decision, I think we'd make
much more money if we don'thave those.

Aaron W. (18:44):
So I think, so I'd say what we don't talk about we
50't talk about it's like asplit thing.

Aaron D. (18:49):
So we're moving on.
So we're moving on to Toontown,we're moving on to characters
or lands.
Toontown, the only thing thatseems fair Mickey and Minnie's
Runaway Railway shared custody,that's rides.
Well, that's a ride in the land.

Aaron W. (19:03):
So I thought rides and lands were separate.

Aaron D. (19:04):
I kept them kind of the same, because it's a right
in the land, so I thought ridesand lands are separate.

Aaron W. (19:06):
Uh, I kept them this is the same of the same, okay,
because it's a major focus, okay, and each retains their own
place of residence.
They should retain their ownplace of residence.
And I agree with the 50, 50 umon that one ride, yes, right,
but not the land, the landsitself.
I'm gonna, I have a, I have amotion for the court for the
lands I came up with, we, myteam, came up with what we think

(19:26):
is an amicable agreement that Iwant to present to the court.
Before that I'd like to ask.
I've already had the floor.

Aaron D. (19:33):
I'd like to ask the court for a recess so that we
can have our Jose Cuervo tequilareposado shot.

Aaron W. (19:39):
Yep, okay, totally agreed, cheers, not bad, okay,
no, that was way better.

Aaron D. (19:45):
No bite on that A little more harsh than the Hema
door.
I liked it.
I liked that way better thanthe last one, not bad, okay.

Aaron W. (19:54):
Anyway, you have the floor sir, thank you, that was a
good recess.
Thank you, yes, so I have aMickey and Minnie split I would
like to present Okay Already anda shared idea for lands an idea
?
Okay, so lands for Mickey, Ihave Main Street, tomorrowland,
mickey's, toontown andFrontierland.

(20:16):
For Minnie I have New OrleansSquare, fantasyland,
adventureland and CritterCountry, while sharing the
castle, the Disneyland Railroadand all the parades we would
share.

Aaron D. (20:27):
I think that sounds fair to everyone in the
agreement, are we countingMatterhorn as part of
Fantasyland?
It is counted as part ofFantasyland.
That's what I thought.

Aaron W. (20:36):
It's not Tomorrowland.

Aaron D. (20:37):
It's its own little land.

Aaron W. (20:38):
Yeah, but it's Fantasyland.
Okay, Should we treat that asseparate, I'll concede that as
far as this.

Aaron D. (20:44):
Then I did have another question.

Aaron W. (20:46):
I don't have Galaxy's Edge on here, though at all.
I think we share Galaxy's Edgeas just an agreement, because
it's separate and newer and wereally didn't have.

Aaron D. (20:56):
Mickey's gets Fantasyland Uh-huh.
Shared custody of the castle,correct.

Aaron W. (21:03):
And the castle's, all the French Quarter, new Orleans
Square, yes.

Aaron D. (21:06):
New Orleans Square.
Yes, new Orleans Square.
Okay, adventureland, mickeygets.

Aaron W. (21:09):
Adventureland and Critter Country and Critter
Country, Mickey gets Main Street, Tomorrowland, Toontown and
Frontierland.
That's a fair offer you get-.
I'll have Big Thunder, butyou'll have.

Aaron D. (21:20):
Indiana Jones.
So I think Toontown, because ofthe strong presence of both of
them, needs to be shared, thewhole land.
The whole land Now, with thecaveat that meet and greet times
have to be staggered so thatthey don't have to run into each
other.

Aaron W. (21:35):
So were you willing to give up?
So would you give MickeyCritter Country for that?
Because you have.
I had four and four and thenthree shared things.

Aaron D. (21:44):
I will.
I mean, you don't want to giveme.
I will keep Critter Country.

Aaron W. (21:50):
We'd have to share one of your lands too.

Aaron D. (21:52):
Then you can have Galaxy's Edge Complete control
over Galaxy's Edge.
Yes, fair, yep.

Eli W. (21:57):
Done Good deal making guys.

Aaron D. (21:59):
And then we keep Matterhorn as part of
Fantasyland, matterhorn's partof Fantasyland, and who has
Frontierland, I haveFrontierland, you have
Frontierland, so I have BigThunder, that's okay.
Okay, I can't remember.

Aaron W. (22:12):
I almost presented this as a thing.
I was going to present Eli withsomething to the court.
I like to present Exhibit 1.
Exhibit A.

Aaron D. (22:27):
Now getting into the potential rides.
So Tomorrowland, laying noclaim to any part of
Tomorrowland, except for themonorail, due to its elevated
status and announcement with itshorn of arrival.
That befits Minnie arriving?
No, he can have.
So if Minnie gets the monorail,mickey can have the train, the
railroad, the railroad.
Got it Done, okay.

Aaron W. (22:44):
Wow, okay, I would rather have the train the
railroad.

Eli W. (22:46):
The railroad Got it Done .

Aaron W. (22:46):
Okay, wow, okay, I like it.
I mean, I would rather have therailroad.

Aaron D. (22:49):
We felt it was more befitting of the two.
I agree, two big rides likethat, okay.
And as far as Fantasyland, theRoyal Theater and the Royal Hall
as part of Fantasyland they'rekind of like off to the left of
the castle.
So at all times, except forspecial events, can we say that?
Except for?

Aaron W. (23:09):
I don't think are there special?
I don't have like dance partiesin there they used to.

Aaron D. (23:12):
I don't know if they currently do.
Okay, they used to havesaturday night.
Okay, I'll concede.

Aaron W. (23:17):
I'll concede to the that if you want mickey though
it's going to be double the feefor mickey to come in and that's
fine, we just part of the party.
That's fine, we won't hire him.
Well, you won't have anyoneshowing up, we'll have.

Aaron D. (23:27):
Goofy and.

Aaron W. (23:30):
I'll throw a bigger thing on Main Street at the same
time.

Aaron D. (23:36):
Yeah, perfect, you're going to find out all the kids
just be like, hmm, mickey,whatever.

Aaron W. (23:43):
Yeah, because that's usually how it's worked in
history.
Yeah, minnie's been way morepopular over the years.

Aaron D. (23:51):
So all of the princesses are part of.

Aaron W. (23:53):
Princess, no we're just talking about land.
We're not talking about people.

Aaron D. (23:57):
But their interactions within Snow White.
All of those.

Eli W. (24:02):
So are you saying they couldn't be part of the?
You can't say that because Holdon?

Aaron D. (24:06):
No, because, snow White, if A ride, they are part
of a ride or a meet and greet inFantasyland, you have to pay
double if you want them to comeinto any part of your.

Aaron W. (24:15):
That's not part of the deal.
Well, neither is Mickey havingto pay double my guy's?
Mickey, you're not representingthe princesses, but if I have
to, pay him double.
That's because it's my client.

Aaron D. (24:25):
They are in.

Aaron W. (24:27):
Bring one of your princesses' lawyers in here and
we'll discuss that, but untilthen, no.

Aaron D. (24:31):
Their IP is in Fantasyland, and if Minnie has
control of Fantasyland, she hascontrol of their IP.
Nope, then I want Toontown,then we are.

Aaron W. (24:42):
I want Toontown 100% Because I want all the people in
Two Town, the people themselveshave their own characters are a
separate conversation they'renot within the parks they're IP
as part of that.

Eli W. (24:54):
I think that it would be fair to say, like the planned
stuff.
So during the time where theyare like, have a meet and greet
in Fantasyland or whatever, theycan only have the meet and
greets in Fantasyland.
They can only walk aroundFantasyland.
So what?
They can only have the meet andgreets in Fantasyland, they can
only walk around Fantasyland,correct?
So what are you arguing for?
Like the parade and stuff thatgoes down Main Street?
He would have to do that.

Aaron D. (25:11):
No, no, they would be part of it.
That would be potentiallyshared.

Eli W. (25:15):
We haven't actually talked about those yet what
would you want, the princesses?

Aaron W. (25:18):
for anyway.
No, anything in that land wouldbe theirs.

Aaron D. (25:22):
They can Right if they had a meet and greet, but the
Royal Hall is where they meetand greet.

Aaron W. (25:26):
Right, there would be, no, yeah, I agree with that
100%.
I'm confused on what you'resaying.
Yeah, I think that was just alittle confusion, but see this
is Okay.

Aaron D. (25:34):
So this is, but it doesn't go to characters.
Going to your point, then thatmeans I have free reign of any
Star Wars characters.

Eli W. (25:43):
For what?

Aaron D. (25:43):
For what?
Whatever I want.

Eli W. (25:45):
What's that mean?
What do you mean?

Aaron D. (25:47):
Star Wars characters.
If I want to have Chewbacca,come visit Fantasyland or do
something whatever.

Aaron W. (25:53):
No, I agree with you.
I misunderstood what you said.
If there's anything in the landitself, the princesses are only
in Fantasyland.

Eli W. (26:01):
Yeah, the park rules when it comes to them, right.

Aaron W. (26:03):
Peter Pan's only going to walk through Fantasyland.
He's not going to walk throughTomorrowland Exactly.
So any meet and greets andwalkthroughs are going to happen
with you, but I thought youwere taking control of all their
parades and outside the landideas.

Aaron D. (26:25):
All the unwritten rules where characters stick to
their own lands and there can'tbe two characters in the park at
the same time is all going tostay.
Now the in the circle in frontof the castle.
There have been princessesknown to walk around in there.
This this is why I got to theip right but is?

Eli W. (26:35):
is that part of main street?
I think you.

Aaron W. (26:38):
I don't see why you share the castle yeah, that's
part of the castle, so let'scall that part of the castle
main street, no, the circle infront of that little roundabout.
Let's call Main Street afterthat circle, okay, because, yeah
, let's just do that.
Okay, for the sake of thisargument.

Aaron D. (26:53):
Okay.

Aaron W. (26:54):
Because we're getting long.

Aaron D. (26:55):
So Rivers of America?
We didn't bring that up, Ididn't even think about that.

Aaron W. (27:00):
I closed it in Disney World in my mind.

Aaron D. (27:08):
And I went there once with Eli in the past like 15
years.
Canoes Tom Sawyer IslandRiverboat, the Mark Twain
Riverboat and the Columbia.

Aaron W. (27:13):
Sailing Ship.
Do you have a thought on that?

Aaron D. (27:15):
So shared custody.
Okay, because I don't thinkeither one of us really want to.
What about Harbor Galley?
It's the one restaurant thatwould probably be.
I'm just assuming that it'spart of because of where it's at
.

Aaron W. (27:31):
It's part of rivers of america, harbor galley, let's
just.
I mean, I don't know, I don't,I don't have any thoughts on 50,
50, yeah, okay, okay, these arethings I don't personally do,
and I mean mickey didn't tell mein our conversation before this
okay what he wanted.

Aaron D. (27:42):
So so, french quarter, we have tiana's winnie the pooh
, which we've.
Winnie the Pooh should be in.
Okay, now.

Eli W. (27:50):
Winnie the Pooh's in Critter Country, right, critter
Country, but you have both ofthose anyway.

Aaron D. (27:53):
Okay, you have all that anyway.
Tiana's Pirates Haunted Mansion.

Aaron W. (27:58):
We've already discussed the lands.
Yes, okay, we're done with thelands.

Aaron D. (28:01):
Okay, I was just.
I'm clarifying for the court.
Asked and answered.

Aaron W. (28:05):
For rides.
Okay, yeah, rides are all inthe lands they're in.
And it says I mean you can look, we'll concede to the
Disneyland app for what landeach ride is in, for what land.

Aaron D. (28:16):
Whatever it says, it is.

Aaron W. (28:19):
Okay, so we have left as characters.

Aaron D. (28:21):
Okay, and we have special events.

Aaron W. (28:23):
And special events, which I changed it up because I
thought we were going to arguemorning, afternoon and evening.
That's all I did and then Iexpanded it after I text you
today, so this is all new to me.
I haven't had time to prepareyour Honor.

Aaron D. (28:34):
This specific times, right, that's not a valid excuse
.
I came up with some stuff.

Aaron W. (28:38):
I have some ideas, okay Okay, so should we go times
first, or characters?
So, times being, I did specialevents.
Okay, special events, Iswitched it up.
Yeah Well, so I can start withsaying that it's hands down that
Mickey's Very Merry ChristmasParty goes to Mickey Because
it's called Mickey's Very MerryChristmas Party.

Aaron D. (28:57):
Okay, Minnie gets the Christmas Candlelight
Processional.
Okay, fair Okay so there we go.
That's divvied up.
Okay, perfect, there we go.
That's divvied up, okay,perfect.

Eli W. (29:11):
Now, for some reason, mickey decided to make the
decision to lose Mickey'sNot-So-Scary Halloween Party to
Oogie Boogie.

Aaron D. (29:14):
Right yeah, so it's not even part of the park.

Aaron W. (29:16):
No.

Aaron D. (29:16):
So it's no longer an issue.

Aaron W. (29:18):
I thought you would say that, yeah, is that what
something Minnie wants?
Is the Oogie Boogie Bash.
Nope, nope, because that's notpart of Disneyland.
So it's not part of the divorce?
Oh, because it's a Californiaventure, it is.
It's not part of these divorceproceedings.

Aaron D. (29:30):
Well, I just messed that one up Okay.
So we have special event nights, so we have 90s night these are
this year's ones and then StarWars night.

Aaron W. (29:40):
90s night looked on a side note.
90s night I wasn't sure of, butit looked awesome.
See now.
Okay, you disagree.

Aaron D. (29:48):
I like the parade.

Aaron W. (29:50):
It looks so cool, the parade.

Eli W. (29:51):
I watched the whole parade.
Yeah, I watched the parade too.

Aaron W. (29:53):
It looks so much fun.
I'm a 90s guy.

Aaron D. (29:57):
So then there's Star Wars night.
What was the other one?

Aaron W. (29:59):
Do they have dapper days there?
No, that's not one of theirofficial days.

Aaron D. (30:08):
That's unofficial Pride Night was another one
Pride Night.
Shared custody for Pride Night,okay, okay, that's fine, that's
fair.
Minnie wants 90s night andMickey can have Star Wars night.

Aaron W. (30:13):
Fair, because I already have Galaxy's Edge,
because they fit better with, Ibelieve their personalities.
I completely agree with that.

Aaron D. (30:19):
Look how agreeable.

Aaron W. (30:20):
I am this is crazy Sure.

Aaron D. (30:23):
Whatever, I already mentioned, all meet and greet
times must be staggered.

Aaron W. (30:27):
So there's no interruptions.
Did I already mention thisearlier?
Yeah, we're already sharing allparades.
Yeah, you guys split parades,we split parades 50-50.

Aaron D. (30:36):
Are we splitting all fireworks displays?
I would say we'd have to.
They're hit and miss Right.

Aaron W. (30:42):
Like Fantasmic, it's a Mickey and Minnie show.
I mean we still gotta put on ashow, even though we're divorced
.
Even though they're divorced,they still got to be the
celebrities, they are right, sothey got to put on a good face
for the public.
Yeah, that's.

Aaron D. (30:56):
So how about this?
Mickey can have the afternoonparade, the evening parade, I
believe there's two.

Aaron W. (31:03):
Generally there's two Minnie gets Fantasmic and the
firework show but how are yougonna have phantasmic when
mickey's the star of phantasmic?

Aaron D. (31:12):
he can come work and we'll pay him double wages.

Aaron W. (31:14):
No, that's not fair.
I say we either share it or Iget fan, or mickey gets
phantasmic because it's his show, it's mickey, mickey's a huge
part of phantasmic and so shegets why would she get to full
access of main street during theparades, the morning or the
afternoon and evening parade?
What's that mean?

Aaron D. (31:34):
Explain more about what full access means she can
take her floats down Main Streetand go back.
They start off up by SmallWorld Right and then they cruise
through Fantasyland.
But then they get into yourland.

Aaron W. (31:47):
Right, mickey promises he won't put blockades up on
Main Street.
Okay, and that's what we want.

Aaron D. (31:54):
We want full and unfettered access, right there
won't be police tape To alllands, there won't be police
tape.

Eli W. (32:00):
During the parade hours.
The path that the parade takesis exempt from any land control.

Aaron W. (32:06):
Okay, agreed, agre.
Takes is exempt from any landcontrol.
Okay, agreed, agreed.
Thank you, judge eli.
Yeah so, and then we also havethe, my two favorite people.
When we were in in umdisneyland and went to toontown
to ride mickey and minnie'searly, remember all the people
standing in front we had tofollow before we went.
It was the last day we werethere last time.
We went right, it was the earlyentry to toontown we stood in

(32:27):
front and I told the people thislooks like Portland during.
This looks like Portland Oregonduring the riots.
Yes, because they're allstanding there in a line saying
do not pass me.
It was like that right.

Eli W. (32:41):
Okay.

Aaron W. (32:42):
And my other favorite one was what me and you
encountered at Magic Kingdom,and I wish I knew the person's
name, because he was an amazingcast member.

Aaron D. (32:50):
Oh yeah, remember that guy.
He answered all the questions.
Yeah, yes.

Aaron W. (32:53):
We were standing right in front and about 10,000
people Nathan, Maybe 10,000people walked up and asked where
early entry was.

Aaron D. (33:02):
And he answered that Can I get by?

Aaron W. (33:02):
you to go to early entry.
He answered the same question10,000 times correctly,
perfectly kindly.

Aaron D. (33:08):
With a smile on his face.

Aaron W. (33:10):
Like he was talking to the first person of the day.

Aaron D. (33:13):
Okay, so jointly we will work with all unions for
you added it, that just came tomind For cast members, for cast
members, all cast member unions.

Aaron W. (33:28):
That's a different, yeah, that's a different
negotiation.

Aaron D. (33:30):
But we will negotiate their contracts together.

Aaron W. (33:33):
Okay.

Aaron D. (33:34):
This will be shared duties.

Aaron W. (33:36):
Right their lawyers will.

Aaron D. (33:37):
Okay, right, we'll have us negotiate for them.
You get Fantasmic, I get theparades, uh-huh, and then the
fireworks show is shared.

Aaron W. (33:45):
Perfect, we already shared the fireworks show yeah,
okay, we already shared the.
We shared parades earlier.
That was already agreed to.

Aaron D. (33:51):
On lands yeah, Well, it's, many controls the parades,
but they have unfettered access.
It doesn't matter what landthey're in.
That was the ruling by thejudge.

Eli W. (33:59):
Okay, judge Eli, that's fine Okay.

Aaron W. (34:03):
Yeah.

Eli W. (34:03):
What about further construction on the parks?

Aaron W. (34:07):
I say that's tabled to later.
Okay.

Eli W. (34:10):
Are you just splitting the?

Aaron D. (34:12):
property up.
I think further construction isdependent on the controller of
that particular area.
So you have Mickey hasTomorrowland, correct?

Eli W. (34:22):
Yeah, I think that the land you control is you control
the construction on that area.
Okay.

Aaron W. (34:27):
But the bigger property Right, the.

Eli W. (34:29):
Disneyland forward, disneyland forward the property.
Are you just splitting theproperty in half?
Because we didn't even mention?
That's up to Bob Iger Right, wedidn't even mention resort
hotels.
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's not what I'm asking,though, because they have so
much land around the park anyway.

Aaron W. (34:43):
That'd be for later litigation.

Aaron D. (34:44):
There can.
Only if Disneyland expands, itwill be into the parking lot in
between the parking garage andDisneyland Hotel.
That is the only spot that itcan grow Right, right.

Aaron W. (34:57):
So we will negotiate that.
Yeah, that's a good questionthough.

Aaron D. (35:00):
That will be negotiated in a future time.
That's a great thought.

Aaron W. (35:02):
We're getting very long here and we still have
characters to go through.
Should we do that Characters,or should we do that?

Aaron D. (35:08):
Characters, or should we so I say, do it quickly.
I say shared custody of allcharacters.
Well, not I can't say that Ican go one for one because Pluto
has to be with Mickey.

Aaron W. (35:19):
We will allow you to have Pluto.
And then you can have Daisy asyour best friend, and then we
can just share the rest.

Aaron D. (35:27):
Clarabelle best friend , and then we can just share the
rest claribel the cow.
Okay, then I have oswald well,no, you have goofy and donald I
do, okay, yes, well, they'reyour, they're your pals oh yeah,
princesses, I get goofy.
And donald, oh I would alreadyokay and you get pluto right
pluto donald goofy you havedaisy and oswald, you get oswald
how about chip and dale?
They're fun if mini they're funhas all the princesses.
Uh, you can have Chip and Dale.

(35:49):
Yeah, we will agree to that.

Aaron W. (35:50):
Well, except for Tiana , who's not in that land.

Aaron D. (35:52):
Is that your land?
She's a princess.
Oh yeah, that's your land too.
That's my land, that's my land,anyway, you're right.

Aaron W. (35:57):
Okay, that's a really good deal, yeah.

Aaron D. (36:07):
Now villains, sidekicks, shared custody, yeah,
yeah.

Aaron W. (36:10):
And if anything comes up, litigation later.

Aaron D. (36:13):
Yes, we can talk about that later, if we want to
negotiate Right Any future.
Rights of Marvel being held bya universal east of the
Mississippi Right.
We will deal with that when thecontract expires.

Aaron W. (36:25):
Perfect.
I love this.
I think we did good.
We have to do our last shot.
Yes, should we do that now?
I didn't open it yet, so thiswould be a Three Amigos Añejo.
You already have it poured.

Aaron D. (36:34):
Three Amigos Añejo.
I don't have it open yet I justtwisted mine and pulled it off.

Aaron W. (36:40):
Okay.

Aaron D. (36:41):
There you go.
Yes, yes, shot number three.

Aaron W. (36:44):
I didn't know you already had it poured.
Wow, you're quick on the draw.

Aaron D. (36:48):
As you will all learn from our podcast, liquor helps
you get through a divorce.

Aaron W. (36:52):
This is the best looking bottle.

Aaron D. (36:54):
It is.
It's a very nice looking bottle.
Cheers, cheers.
Whoa Yowzers, that was strong.
That hit the back of the nose.
Yeah, it did Very tasty.
Okay, Very yeah it did Verytasty Okay.
Very good tequilas.

Aaron W. (37:07):
This is why we usually try the drink before we start
the podcast.

Aaron D. (37:11):
So in case you're wondering Holy crap, el Himador
Blanco, jose Cuervo Reposado andThree Amigos Añejo.

Aaron W. (37:19):
I recommend the Three Amigos.

Aaron D. (37:20):
And until next week, cheers.

Aaron W. (37:22):
Cheers, cheers.
Thank you, eli.

Aaron D. (37:24):
Yep, thanks for having me Thank.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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