Nathan Macintosh (comedian)

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Chuck Shute (00:00):
All right. Well, this was a really fun episode
with comedian Nathan McIntosh isa new special out right now
called money never wakes. It'sfree on YouTube, along with tons
of his other content, lots ofreally funny clips. And this was
a very fun and interestingconversation. It takes a lot of
twists and turns and I reallyenjoyed chatting with him. I
hope you guys enjoy listening.
Just buckle up. It's a crazyride

Nathan Macintosh (00:36):
first of all, I'm sorry that I'm late. And
second of all, now I'm not acrazy person. I knew I was doing
a podcast today.

Oh, yeah, you're you're not crazy. Totally sane.
And his mental health awarenessmonth. I just read that. So

that needs to be every month. You know, we
need to lay off on the othermonths. What? months just eat
your brain? Yeah. January everysingle month we give it a fuck
about what we think and how wefeel. But uh, anyways, this is
great.

This is so great.
Yeah. So how are things going?
How's it new special? How's theresponse from? Because I just
watched it last night. It's sogood. It's so funny. I think I
saw a clip. So that must be howI found you. Because you've been
posting clips about it. From

my whole fucking feed right now. I was
thinking about that. Today I go,it's just me wearing the same
thing with different wordsovertop of it. I'm like, if
somebody is new to this, whatare they even think I'm just
some crazy person who puts youdon't I mean only posts from one
thing?

I think that's every comedian, though, isn't
it?

I guess I mean, I'm talking this the same
stage, the same clothes. I mean,if you, you know, whatever. But
that's

what that's what you got to do is like, you got
to do this special. And then youchop it up into little pieces.
And then you promote the specialwith and your brand. I mean,
that's how I found you. And so Ithink you're doing a perfect.

Oh, okay.
Great. All right. I mean,because some of the clips have
done very well, and especiallyitself is doing a lot better
than I mean, I kind ofanticipated. I mean, you've put
things out, you understand whatthat? Yeah, you know, sometimes
how hard it is push that button,because you go? How are people
going to receive this, or peoplegoing to receive this? What am I

(02:22):
doing with my life?

It doesn't make any sense. I'll post a clip. And
it's funny because you post theexact same clip on YouTube,
Instagram and Tiktok. Andsometimes it gets 1000s of views
on one and it gets like 100 onthe other and I don't understand
the algorithms or whatever.
Doesn't make any sense.

Yeah, they all seem to be different on all the
things. But But yeah, I'm happywith it. So far. It got reviewed
in the New York Times. It's justfucking wild to me. And like I
said, a lot of the clips ofdoing super well. So So yeah,
I'm happy with it.

Yeah, well, I think it's I think the thing is, is
it's it's so relatable like youhave that bit about the the
fights on the airplanes. Thereis a lot of it does seem like
there's a lot of fights onairplanes. What do you have a
theory as to why that is,though?

Well, one, I think a lot of people just
decided after the pandemic,fucking I'll fight anybody
anywhere. Anytime. There's nonobody will tell me what to do
to. And this is on because I dothink it's crazy to fight on a
plane. Like it's insane nomatter what time it is

(03:31):
happening. I mean, there'sstories of like some they're
fighting over the the window,you know, somebody wanted to
close, somebody wanted it open,craziness. telling somebody to
sit down all that type of thing.
I will say, though, airlineshave been pushing the public for
a long time, you know, that,that that joke or whatever? I

(03:56):
was like I could do. I mean,this whole thing could be
managed because they could gohere's people fighting and then
also why they might, yeah, like,do I want to make this whole
thing about sort of, what, 40minutes on plane Fights For
God's sake, but airlines alsoplay a role. I mean, they take
everything away, everything getsmore expensive. Your your

(04:18):
fucking knees are just jammedinto a fucking seat in front of
you. The amount of times youwere assaulted at the airport
before you even get on a plane.
Just like getting there takingall your shit off, putting it
all back on as fast as you canwhile somebody's like move. The
amount of times you have to evenhave your boarding pass checked.

(04:38):
There's people just in a hallwaythat are like let me see your
boarding pass and who the fuckare you? Why do you even what do
you do here? You're on a chair.
You no hallway. Literally. Thisdoesn't need to be you know. So
the eighth or ninth time you'reasked that question you finally
get to the plane, somebody bumpsinto you It's fucking goat.

Yeah, and don't you think it's interesting too I
think they finally kind of likereel this back a little. But for
a while there they were lettinganybody with a giant dog or any
sort of emotional support animalto come on the plane to and I
feel like that was causing somesome ruffling some feathers no
pun intended, you know, likewhen you bring a giant animal
and people are like, Okay, Igotta like sit next to this dog.

(05:24):
I'm allergic to dogs and yeah,it's kind of chaotic.

Yeah, yeah.
The first plane back after thepandemic, somebody had a
emotional support pit bull.
Which you way really? Yeah. Andit was just walking up and down
the aisles legitimately, likelegitimately just in the aisle.
This woman was like walkingthrough the aisle being like,
you know, it has to fucking moveor whatever you like. Good God.

(05:49):
I mean, that's right below, youknow, the emotional support
fucking bazooka tank. I mean,this is a full on animal that
could get on plane flight, youknow? Yeah, that's one

thing. It was like the Paris Hilton dogs. And those
are like tiny. And those kind ofmade sense, I guess. But then
when people have the giant dogs.

I have one of those little dogs, a little
chihuahua. And she's been on? Ido. Yeah. And she's been on a
bunch of flights. But she'sfine. She's 4.8 pounds. She
stays in a little. She slidesunder a seat. You know? She's
there.

Right? Exactly.
Yeah, I've seen like cats andthe cat carriers. And I think
they give them some sort of drugor a pill or some southern cats
just zonked out and still alive,I hope. But I mean, it's not
like meowing and scratching andtrying to get out or whatever.

Yeah, another story is, you know, of airlines,
fucking telling people that theyhave to put these pets in the
overhead. And then they lay intothe pets fucking dead. So that's
another reason to punch agoddamn person in the face. You
know, there's, there's manyreasons for plain fights to
happen. I just don't think theyshould. Because it's just a full

(07:00):
breakdown of society. You know?

Exactly. That's what it is. It's the breakdown
of society. I used to work inthe schools. And when I started,
it was like, you know, cellphones that were not really a
thing, you know, and, and sothere were some kids that kind
of just didn't really follow therules and stuff. And then as
phones came in, and just kidsare just like, I mean, they were
just addicted their phones, tellteachers to fuck off. I mean, it
just got seemed like,progressively worse. Maybe it's

(07:25):
because I'm getting older. But Iwas just like, I can't, I can't
do this anymore. Like, I'm out.
I'm tapping out. And now you'reseeing those kids go into
society?

Uh huh. Yeah, I get I get well, first of all,
I'll say this. And I have aquestion for you. I get very
scared. And legitimately and Ithinking about where we'll all
be in 20 years, because I kindof feel I feel that we're going
to be talking to a lot of peoplewho were basically butter slide

(07:58):
around, they asked machines todo things for them. And if you
slight them in any fucking way,they'll eat you. there because
there's not a lot of theinternet sort of has done this
as well. I feel when I when youlook at somebody through one of
your magic boxes, whether it bea phone or laptop, or whatever,

(08:19):
this person is not real, right?
So fuck them. People tell offpeople all the time, they don't
know go to hell eat me. And Ifeel that people that grew up
this way, or people that just dothis constantly start looking at
people in real life as that aswell. And, and fuck them. Which,
again, when I think about it,and like 1520 years ago, what is

(08:40):
that? Where does that lead us?
If things in society continue onthis trend? I mean, are we out
there just just just stabbingeach other every time you walk
outside? You have to knifesomebody to get into a store or
into your own car? Or you don'tI mean,

ya know, exactly, I mean, or I feel like yeah, it's
gonna go one of two ways,either. Maybe the technology
thing is gonna lighten up andpeople are gonna start
interacting more in real lifeagain, or it's just gonna go
fully, like that movie, what'sup movie with Bruce Willis
surrogates, where everyone justdoes everything from home and
they send a surrogate out intothe real world to do all their
stuff. I don't interact withpeople.

Yeah, I think that's where we're going
personally. And what what whatgrades did you teach?

Oh, I was I was a high school counselor. And then
I was an hour I started as amiddle school counselor, and
then I was high school. And thenI got burned out and then I was
like, alright, you know, let mego back to middle school because
that's where I started. Andmaybe you know, I'll get like re
energized and feel the you know,the fire again for this job. And
I was like, oh my god, this isso awful. These kids are

(09:47):
horrible. I can't believe I madeit through my last year. I
wanted to quit so bad. It wasrough. And I'm like, Oh, this
society, it's gonna be bad like,now but like in five or 10
years, it's gonna be really bad.

I know. Oh, and you? I mean, middle school
was bad when there was nophones. I mean, those are the
groups of people. You know whatI mean? Like, everybody, they
make all these shows about highschool and like, oh, there's
bullying and who am I going totake to prom? Middle School?
1314 15 year olds, these aresome of the worst fucking human

(10:20):
beings alive. They just aren'twe all went through it. We all
live there. Yeah, it's weird,like, no empathy type of fucking
odd. Growing up thing, man is itthat I found that to be the
worst, school wise, you know,and even today, when I, you

(10:41):
know, you, when I when I see,there's just like some little
and again, and I'm like I wasyou at one point in time, and I
understand you're like, Fuck thewhole world. I get it. But I
don't know. I mean, we gottalive here. You know, I actually
have a friend who taught foryears, and it's why she doesn't
want to have kids. She's like, Itaught for years. It was a

(11:02):
miserable experience. The kidswould threaten my life. And then
I would go to the principal, theprincipal, basically, like you
can't send these kids to theoffice, you have to just try to
sit them down and figure out whythey threatened your life. You
have to figure out what you did,but made a 13 year old wants to
kill you.

Well, yeah. And then the parents get mad. If you
discipline if you try todiscipline their kid, they come
after you. It's it's I don'tknow. It's tough. It was it was
tough as a counselor, because Iusually was dealing with kids
one on one, but teachers Yeah,when you have a classroom of 30
or 40. And then again, it's thephones, like you're competing
for their attention, and likethey're much more interested in
whatever's on their phone thanwhatever you're teaching. They

(11:41):
don't give a shit. So

every everybody is, I mean, there's,
there's somebody that willfucking dude, there's a guy
right now, right? He's inside ofa model. He's, he's having sex
with a model, right? He'slooking at the whole photo beat,
and there's a half fuckingsecond where it's like, what is

(12:05):
going on over there? She's doingthe same. We're all fucked me.
We're all broken and gone anddead. And like, I don't know,
you sound like the oldest personI've seen in this ship. But I
kind of feel because this hasalways been a thing, right? In
terms of older generations beinglike, it's all going to hell, I
think when people will say inthe 50s would have said this

(12:27):
right when when TV started tocome out. And like rock and roll
was the thing. They were like,This is the devil's music. And
these are just stupid boxes thatmake people dumb. Here's the
thing, man, Chuck, dude, theyweren't wrong. The problem is,
though, it didn't happen asquick as they thought it would.

(12:49):
It was a 5060 year fucking burn.
But these last 10 years, man,it's like that it's these last
10 years are what they thoughtit was gonna be in 1952 or
whatever. Because this, this nowwe are where we are in what they
thought we were going to be in.

(13:10):
Yeah, well, it's

crazy to think about that. I know you you do
some material about the Beatlesand stuff and how you don't like
the Beatles, but like when theBeatles came out? Wasn't that
like, one of the bands that werelike, Oh, this is the devil's
music. This is gonna ruinsociety. And it's like, you look
at that now and you're like,that's, like so wholesome. And
like,

totally down people holding each other's
hands. I mean, it's a fuckingsubmarine. I mean, it's like
it's it's it's kids shit. Imean, they have some stuff
that's not but I guess it waslike the whole hysteria deal,
right? Young girls and shit.
Were running through theirscreens, ripping their fucking
giant skirts. I mean, theseskirts. In the 60s, you see some

(13:48):
massive plaid, big pleatedshirts. But as far as like, you
know, they thought it was gonna,I don't know, make people do
whatever but these last fewyears. I mean, it seems to be
there's more like fuck you interms of stuff. And also music
is? dares. Sometimes I don'tknow if you feel this chapter.

(14:12):
Sometimes I hear a song that'son and I catch what's being said
and I'm like, What the fuck arewe doing? How like, What the
fuck is on? I'm listening to a15 year old telling me they're
gonna fuck my girlfriend andkill my family. Why is this in a
store like hurt and I'm not I'mnot some kind of like Christian

(14:34):
prude psycho. But you just walkaround sometimes you hear what's
going on you go how is this justthe soundtrack? To fucking live?
How late all over the fuckingplace and how are we to think
that this doesn't lead to peoplethought and fighting each other
on fucking planes shooting eachother stabbing each other. How

(14:56):
are we just gonna pretend I Italso again glaring at each other
through magic boxes. I don'tknow, dude.

I love when it's just like over the top like
comical, like the song whop Haveyou heard that one went as
pussy? I mean that song. It'slike so, like, it just makes me
laugh. It's like so over the toplike, but I think some people
were like taking it kind ofserious. Like this is like,
yeah, like, I want to I want tobe like that girl. And I hope
they're kind of I mean, I hopeit's kind of tongue in cheek but

(15:26):
yeah, definitely shouldn't be.
Kids listen to

Oh, you. Yeah, I mean. Yeah, I guess it's hard
to say. I don't know, dude, likethat one. That one is kind of
like that's crazy to think that.
Like, there's some people thatsay women should not talk like
that. Because what if we allweren't back to school here real
quick, right? Everybody's lifeprobably would have been a

(15:54):
little bit better if men weren'ttold in school that we're losers
if we don't sleep with women.
And I'm talking about obviouslystraight people here. And women
are called horse if they sleepwith men who the fuck one in
this bullshit situation. I mean,we all lost, okay. And this is

(16:18):
why something like this songcomes out and everybody goes,
holy fuck What the hell somewoman wrap it up on her pussy.
Yeah, nobody would even reallygive a fuck if if if none of
these weird little stigmasexisted you don't I mean, life
could have been a much, mucheasier in some in some sort of a
high school situation. If thatthese weren't the two odds. We

(16:42):
were kind of pulled out. Doesthat make sense? I also feel
like we just started thispodcast and I started screaming.
I love it.

I love I love that I love that's what I love about
your community. You just andthen when you you get kind of
angry your your voice goes tothis like comedic high pitched
thing that's like your naturalvoice or is that like a thing
you do for the stage? If I

mean when I get when I do get excited, and
I'm talking my voice does that.
You know like I get it. You getfucking excited about things.
Like the like, again like these,like your trademark. I

feel like it's it's I love it. It's great.

Oh, thanks, man. Yeah, if anybody else
doesn't They owe me 50 cents.
It's like it's Ric Flair isWhoo.

No, yeah. I just kind of discovered that. Even
though I grew up in the 80s. Inever really was into wrestling
that much. But I know I followthis. Or I don't think I follow
it. But they showed my news feedthese clips of like old 80s like
wrestling and a lot of Ric Flairstuff. And it's just, it's
always out of context. I don'tknow what's going on. But he's
getting really excited. And it'salerting.

Yeah, I used to watch a lot of his stuff. A
lot of it's been taken off theYouTube. But yeah, I've known
about him for a long, long time,actually. Oh, God, this is so
stupid. This is an actionfigure. Great player. That's on
my desk that holds the fuckingNova Scotia flag. Yeah.

You're no you're not in Nova Scotia now, are you?
No,

no, I live in New York. But I'm from I'm from
Nova Scotia originally. And

I heard that you got a what do you got a green
card to work there? And then youcan apply for dual citizenship
at some point.

Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I can apply I can applyfor citizenship now and the only
thing that really changes isthat I could get to vote. Oh,
you still got to pay tax. Butthe whole Tea Party was fighting
for you know this clock suck andshit. You get taxed easily got
no say in what happens aroundhere. You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, we have whop on theradio. I don't know. I can't

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vote. I'll just walk here.

No, cuz like it is crazy, though. Like, are you?
Are you familiar with a Canadiancomedian? Simon King? Yes. Yeah,
he's so funny. But I was talkingto him. And he was saying it
cost like $5,000 to get a visato work in the United States. I
was like, Oh, that's so crazy.
That and I I've talked to bandsand it's a similar kind of
thing. If they want to tour likethe US or go to Europe, and
they're not from that country.

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They got to pay this money.
Which is like so weird to me,because you're gonna be spending
money when you come into thecountry. But it's interesting.

Yeah, yeah. I think that the visa itself is
like five or six and then agreen card is a whole other
deal. But um, you know, you'regetting the I mean, back to
wrestling here real quick.

Oh, yeah. No, let's talk about wrestling. If no
one's good wrestling fans, so

that was gonna relate this to America. America
is and I really should stoptalking at some fucking point in
time, not on a podcast, but Imean, who the fuck am i But I
feel if America was a person, itis Vince McMahon. It is the
greatest marketer of all time,because, you know, on the
outside of America, what getsshown to be People tits, cars,

(20:02):
rap rap

stuff PC anymore?

Well, sure, but I mean, it's supposed to be
this is like the place dude. Ohfuck, dude, you're gonna come
here and you're gonna getthere's like 900 types of Pop
Tarts and it's it's fucking sickdude. And then you get here and
you go oh yeah, it's justanother fuckin place that might
be a little bit more miserableor less miserable than other

(20:31):
places, you know what I mean? Somaking sense where we're from,
by the way,

I'm originally from Seattle, but I live in Arizona,
and I've lived in Arizona sincelike 2008. So totally different
states. But yeah, I like thesunshine, the weather down here
more. That's pretty much where Imove. But is there a big
difference is that you noticefrom like, Nova Scotia in New
York, what is the biggest thingsI

mean, there's a there's a subway system here.
I mean, there's still seagulls,there's still water, that part's
still kind of the same. Andpeople in New York are nice. You
know, but everybody's justobviously got places to go. But
people are nice and nice. Um,I've had conversations with
people in bars or whatever, likepeople will talk to you. There's

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there's places where thatdoesn't happen. And I think
people in other parts think thatNew York is just like, kind of
the worst. But um, I mean, NovaScotia, fuck, man. It is just,
it's obviously just different.
It's just a different. I mean,there's more people in Queens
than there are in my wholeprovince. The entire thing.

So it's just a bit Yeah, cuz that's what Simon was
telling me that he's in Canada.
And he, there's just not as bigof a comedy scene up there. He
said, like the whole country is.
I mean, if you've put all thosepeople together, it's not as
many it's like, yeah, like thecomedy scenes in like New York
and LA and stuff.

Well, yeah.
And also count. I thinkCalifornia legitimately has more
people in it than candidatedoes. Yeah, country. You don't I
mean, so you got to drive barrenwastelands to then go talk to,
you know, 80 people in a fuckingthat Legion, you know, but
you're crossing a lot ofSaskatchewan to get to those 80
people. And between you andthose 80 people. There are no
people. There's nothing. Right?

(22:19):
It's deserted wasteland.

We pretty much had to move to the states to for
your comedy career.

I mean, years ago, for sure. Now with the
magic boxes. I mean, you mightbe able to just live in fucking
Thailand under a goddamn boot.
And film yourself and be themost famous human being on the
earth. You know? Yeah. If you'regood at tic toc and all that
stuff. Yeah. But as far as like,years ago, definitely. When I

(22:46):
moved here and for stand up,there's just there are just more
clubs. There's more places to bethere's more people here than
you know, Canada.

Yeah. Do you do the seller a lot. I saw I think I
saw a couple clips from youperforming there.

I do. Yeah.

Is there I mean, cuz that's, I went there. I've
been there once a woman in NewYork ones but God there was like
bit isn't that the one where allthe big name comedians will just
pop in and like Dave Chappellewill just go out and then come
in and do a set and

yeah, totally.
Yeah. i Yeah, years ago when Ifirst started working there. He
came in. And so I went to themanager, and I was like,
Alright, so I'm bumped. Right?
Like, sure. And she goes, No, hewants to go on in a minute. So
it's gonna be you and then him.
And I'm like, Okay. And it wasat the village underground. So

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there's places for comedians tosit there the cellar. itself,
the actual, it's not that youcan't really hang out down
there. Yeah, so I was I waslike, oh, fuck, man, I gotta go
on dish. Paul's gonna watch myset. I'm like, This is insane.
So I go on, and there's a roomlike full of like, 200 people or
whatever. And they're here, butI'm not paying attention to

(23:57):
them. All I can see in the backis a fucking cigarette Ember
light up every once in a while.
And I'm just like, This man isliterally watching my entire
deal. This is so nerve racking.
So do you change

the set? Because you know, Chappelle is watching,
like, I'm gonna give himbringing my best shit. Because
sometimes, like you guys go upthere and you're trying new shit
out. But if I want to impresshim, right or no, do you just
say Fuck, I'm gonna do I'm gonnado

Oh, I mean, I was trying. I was trying to just
impress the building anyway, youknow what I mean? Like, I hadn't
been there very long. So Ididn't change anything. But I
was in my head going, this iscompletely insane. That, you
know, this fucking cigarette isjust lining up in the back. It's
horrifying. But also whatever hehe's a very nice, so.

Yeah. Well, you said that one of the nicest
people you met was Bob Saget.
That's pretty cool that he waslike, like, he helped you out a
little bit when you moved to NewYork. Do you know anybody?

Bob Saget is a I was truly like probably the
nicest person I've ever met incomedy. So, I mean, I could do
whatever. I'll tell you a couplestories here, none of them or
whatever, but like, so I gotasked to do this show. Very last
minute, okay. A friend of minemessaged me. He was like, I'm
supposed to open for Bob thisweekend. But I can't do you want

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to do it? I go, of course. Hegoes, send a clip to Bob's
people. He gives me some email.
i Okay. i send a clip to Bob'speople. I get an email back.
They were like great. See onSaturday at this theater in
Toronto. I get there. I walkinto the theater. It's like this
1200 seat theater. Bob is onstage. tuning his guitar, right.

(25:39):
So I go well, I'm not gonnabother him. I'm just gonna go
downstairs very Canadian fuckingthought. I'm not gonna bother
anybody. Let me just godownstairs and wait for somebody
to fucking scream at me orwhatever. So I also Is it cool
if I swear this one's just

said Fuck, like, no one's looking loving people. I
love when people ask that two

years later, I should have a cigarette. I don't
even smoke. I swear man, Ishould be a longshoreman. Well,
that's

funny. He's like I don't think you swear much in
your in your stand up. At leastthe clips I've seen.

i Well, it depends I do when I don't. I
try. When I when I when I go toput something together. I try
necessarily not to constantly,but it'll get to a point where I
just go look, man, this is whoyou are. Fuck off. I can't. What
am I going to do you know what Imean? But as far as like,
something that's written andwhatever, but um, so I walk in,

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I avoid them. I just godownstairs, somebody comes down,
and they go, they just lean intomy dresser and they go Bob wants
to see you. And they said itlike that. So I go, Oh, man,
it's gonna be brutal. Like, wellsee with this goes, he's going
to

office or something. Yes. And

I mean, it's his show. He famous man. He kind
of say whatever he wants, right?
So i i in my head before I getto a month and he's gonna say,
don't talk about this. Don't dothis. That type of thing. Okay,
I walk up, he gets off thestool. He walks over to me. He's
like, Oh, my God, man. Thank youso much for being here. I'm so
appreciative. You do this show.

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And he goes, I really love yourstuff. And I go, I go I'm like,
completely taken aback. I didnot think that this was how he
was going to especially how thatperson was like, Bob wants to
see you

was just talking with you. Like he just Yeah,

maybe. So anyways, I go I go you saw my
stuff. And he goes, Yeah, and Igo, I thought I sent it to your
people. He goes, I am my people.
He goes I just put like a littlebit of a buffer. But he goes, I
watched it and I liked it. I waslike, wow, okay, so then I go.
So anyway, so then I go back tomy dressing room. And I'm just
sitting there going over my setor whatever. And he he just

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leans his head and he goes, Whatare you doing? I go I just kind
of go to my stuff. He goes wherehe kind of migraine room. So I
go over to his green room justlike you know, mine is like and
it makes sense. There's nothingagain it's just me so there's
like it's like a it's like adark room with one light and I
got I got my stand up here.

There's two green rooms I thought there's usually
only one

first lab second for bucks. eggless was
there hanging out with thesewith trash, absolute, Nova
Scotia garbage, buddy. He bringsme in and you know, he's got a
whole bunch of stuff and inthere and he was super nice. And
And anyways, whatever manthere's, there was a few other
things that happened that nightand whatever. But I just really
remember him talking about howappreciative he was. He kept

(28:36):
saying how lucky he was. He keptsaying, he goes man, the theater
sold out tonight. He goes, I'mso lucky man. He's like, This is
amazing. And he had a lady withhim. And he goes, and this is my
girlfriend, man. He's like,she's fucking beautiful. He's so
lucky. He talked to hisdaughters before the show. And
he gets off the phone. He goes,but my daughters are the best
because I'm just such a luckyguy. Like he just kept talking

(28:56):
about how lucky he was and howlike, appreciative he was of
things. And I don't know, man,it was it was amazing to see. A
guy of his, you know, I don'tknow, he's just he probably he
probably was the nicest person Imet in in comedy for sure.

That's cool. It sounds like he was really
grateful. That seems to be thesecret to happiness. But uh, you
could do that at any I mean,even at your level. I mean,
you've been on The Tonight Show,Colonel.

What? No, no, no, it's just very funny. Like,
even you even you have things tobe grateful

for. You're saying like, he's like, you're not so
bad yourself. And also you'reyounger than he than he is. You

know, I'm just I'm just joking around. But I
think I think for any of usanywhere, doing anything. Being
grateful is one of the things tostrive towards. And it's very
hard to to do it. Yeah, times.
Well, you were saying

because I think I heard you talking about the
comedy scene how like there'sthree levels and that is It's
really interesting to now or notanalogy, I don't know, like,
whatever you would call yourwhen your description of the
comedy scene, the first level islike, people are broke and you
don't make any money. And thenthe second level is like, Okay,
you're making a living livingdoing this. And then the third
level is like you're one of themost famous people on the

(30:16):
planet.

Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Hopefully. I mean, theremight be another level between
those that I don't know about.
Which is like, grim death? Idon't know. But I mean, it just
seems to be seems to be what itis. There's a lot of people
working. And then the famous isthe very famous people.

Sure. Well, because I think there's people that are
paid comedians, maybe roadcomics and stuff, but I mean, to
do like, to be honest, TonightShow and Conan. I mean, that's,
that's definitely a high level,right there. I mean, maybe
you're not one of the mostfamous people on the planet, but
there's not a lot of people getturned down for that stuff, too,
right? Yeah, I'm

not even the most famous person on this zoom
call. But um, the, ya know,people do people do and those
things were very fun to do. Imean, I kind of wanted to be a
comedian since I was 10. So I'vewatched as much of it as I
possibly could growing up andseeing the late night shows, I

(31:15):
always thought, wow, it'd be socool to do that. And it just
seems like the farthest thingaway, it doesn't make sense. How
you how do you go from? Youknow, I'm sitting in Nova
Scotia, I'm eating cigarettes inthe woods? How the fuck do you
go from here? To that doesn'tmake sense. So I did always kind

(31:37):
of want to do those things thatI'm happy that I'm happy that
I'm happy to have been able todo some of them.

So how did so you?
You didn't start comedy at 10?
You decided that's when youwanted to? When At what age did
you start with? And how long didit take you to get to the point
where you gotta you landed alate night spot or something
that was like a big break inyour opinion.

Um, I mean, the very first time I ever did
stand up, and this isridiculous, I was 16. In a, in a
drama class, the teacher,teachers like alright, for the
end of the year, we're gonnagive you a she goes, I'm gonna
give you some just things andpick one and then put it
together for the class, right?
And it was like, you know, reada poem, do a one man play a

(32:17):
sketch with some friends orstand up. And I again, I wanted
to stand since I was 10. So Igot all these stand up. I wrote
these jokes. And she wanted meto give her my script, or
whatever. So I go up in front,about 12 people in this class,
she's got my jokes. She'sreading them before I even do.

(32:38):
And I kept forgetting them. SoI'd be like, Oh, that that new
Superman, whatever, Spider Manmovie, I can't remember what the
thing was, but I'd forget. AndI'd be like line. And she would,
she would read the punch line.
And then I would have to read itagain to the class or say it
again to the class. And Iremember walking out of there

(32:59):
going steps too hard. I'm notgoing to do that. I'll be an
actor, you know, just a crazy 16year old thing to think this
thing is incredibly hard. Thisother things probably a little
bit easier. I mean, they're bothinsane. They're saying things to
do with your life. You know whatI mean? to either one of them is
not so new, but in

some ways. Like, I feel like the landscape has
changed so much. Like there'snot just like, you know, I was
talking to the comedian for himAnwar and if you know him, but
he was like, yeah, so he's, he'sdone my show. He's from Seattle
used to see him all the time.
But he was trying to explain hishis parents are like, from
Afghanistan, like, you know,they want him to be a doctor or
something. And he's like, theythink like, either you're Tom
Cruise or nothing. And he'slike, yeah, there's like levels

(33:43):
in between. And especially nowwith all the Tick Tock and all
this stuff. I mean, so many TVshows and movies you can get.
You could be a working actor,and you might not be famous, but
you could still get paid and bea working actor.

Absolutely.
It's still an insane thing todo. It's

how many people do you think that you beat out for
these like, like, that's a nightshow and things like that like
out

buddy? I don't I mean, I don't I don't factor
in any of that. I I am if Idon't get something I'm like, I
beat myself out if that makesany sense. And if I do get
something I'm like, Okay, I putsomething together in a way that
these people said yes to it. Idon't I don't go 20 Other people
fucking you know, it tried toget this and I beat all these

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people out.

That's the insanity part you're talking about. It's
like the obvious ending

part I'm talking about. Oh, well, first
of all, a little bit of thatinsanity. Yes. I'm more talking
about to when you when you firststart to go, Okay, I'm gonna do
something creative or whatever,you know, you factor in the
stuff that you like to do withit, the writing the performing
whatever, you cannot reallyfactor in the years down the

(35:00):
road and the mental toll thatthese things take on you and the
the beatings, man, the brutalbeatings you have to take from
crowds, Booker's festivals, allof it. It's a lot It's taxing.

(35:20):
And I think that's the partthat's insane. It to, to to do
to one's self not not with withno. There's nothing that's going
there's no one there'sstability, there's no, there's
no guarantees of any of it youcould be, you could be one of
the greatest dude, I've seensome of the funniest fucking
things that nobody will eversee. Because it didn't become

(35:44):
famous or big or whatever thehell. Who knows why, but but Um,
anyways, it's an insane thing todo. So I guess I'm just I don't
know, talk people out of it. Idon't know. I don't know why I'm
saying these things. But it'sanything creatively seems like
an insane thing to do. But Idon't know the

highs and lows.
It's a roller coaster. Yeah,because there's definitely hot
you talk about all theseterrible things. But obviously
there's the highs too. I mean,you've played you'd been late
now you've I'm sure you've gotsome great sets, opening for Bob
Saget. And all these things areamazing.

It's just absolutely offensive. I could
really just

because you were saying all the negative things.
I'm trying to say all thepositives too, right. I

mean, ya know, there's lots of there's there's
lots of positives you, youdecided to do something with
your online. It's a thing you'vedreamed about doing? Yep. That's
the

I mean, it's amazing. Just the feeling of
making people laugh. That's,

again, that goes away. Man that goes away.
It's dead. I hear peoplelaughing and I don't even it
doesn't register anymore. Idon't even I don't even feel it.
It doesn't even I'm kidding,Chuck. I mean,

yeah, like knowing that you're you're bringing
laughter I mean, today, I wasbinging your stuff, and I was
cracking up. There's so manygood clips, and you didn't you
couldn't hear me laughing butthat's why I'm telling you. So
there's a lot of people outthere that are watching your
shit and cracking up and theworld needs laughter right now,
that's for sure.

I think people are gonna say that till the end
of time to it, I think, foreverand ever, ever. People like the
world leave net right now. Theworld needs laughter You know?
Yeah, even in the roaring 20s.
Everybody was getting suckedtheir pockets full of money in
their life. Right now. But no,no, I mean, I do. Yes. making
people laugh. And I mean, for mepersonally, I wouldn't be any

(37:38):
job I ever had. I mean, this iswhat I do, man. I know. Things
are whatever I yelping. So if Iwas an accountant, I would I'd
be one of the funny peoplethere. If I was a teacher. I
don't know. I don't know. Youdon't I mean? So it's like,
either decide to do it for acareer, which is insane. Or I do

(38:00):
it every day, in my regular lifeanyway, you know,

no, you pick the right. I couldn't picture you
doing something out. That wouldbe stupid, I think. But I like
hearing the stories of youworking. The other jobs like
didn't used to work at likeAdidas, and the NW and Starbucks
and stuff talking about do youever work for the government?
But or is it only just like,

No, I never worked for the government? Why
GSN?

Oh, just because I mean, just because I work for
the government. So it'sinteresting. When you see how
the, you know, a government jobis it kind of opens your eyes to
some things and I don't know,just I was curious.

Not not as a teacher. What was your What was
your government job? Well,that's

yeah, that's the government isn't I mean, don't
you? Technically?

I'm not. I guess it is. Yeah, that will be
who pays for these things? Yeah.
But I guess I wouldn't havefactored it in like government,
government. When I heargovernment I think. Jesus, I
don't know, like a municipalbuilding or or, or, you know, I
don't know sometimes things likethat. But obviously us teachers
do I guess technically work forthe government. That's a that's

(39:06):
a government funded deal.

You just see so much incompetence, but then I
think you'll see incompetence inthe in the corporations and the
business sector too.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, for the most part, if
people are people, you know,some people know what's going on
most don't. Everything ispretty. I mean, just see the guy
who one of the guys who is like,the leaders of AI, walked away
from it, and now it's tellingpeople that he's scared of it.

Now, that's doesn't surprise me though. That is some
scary stuff, for sure.

Yeah. But he's like, you know, for 50 years or
whatever. This guy's like, wegot to make AI and then they get
to it. He goes, we gotta get outof it. So this, this fucking
psychopath has whole time. Whowouldn't see This for what it
was, you know, and I guess, sameas in a, say teaching, the way
that students are the way theirteachers would talk to students

(40:08):
or principals or whatever. It'sall very now it's not, it's not,
you know, how are we? How are wetalking to these kids today? And
how are we treating them today?
That's going to set them up inthe future for whatever. And
right now, it seems to be fromwhat you're saying. And from
what I've heard other peoplesay, they're, they're not
because they don't want to getin trouble with either the kid

(40:28):
or parents of the kid.

Yeah, well, yeah, just seemed like, there was
like, I mean, I don't want tomake it painted. All bad. But it
seems like there's definitelylike a split. And the split seem
to be growing. Like, there's nota lot of just like, average,
like, see students, either a kidis like an A student, and
they're on the football team.
And, you know, they're, they'regetting good grades, they're
good at sports, or in theseclubs, and they have tons of
friends and they're straightlaced, or whatever, or they

(40:55):
don't give a shit. They'refailing everything. And they're
in the principal's office everyday, and there's not a lot in
the middle. So it's kind of,it's the ones that are like,
don't give a shit that are justlike that. That number is
growing so much that that's theshit that scares me. I'm like,
these kids are going to be goingoff into the world and like,
what do we do? Like?

Yeah, cuz the saddest part about that is the
ones that don't give a shit needthe most in terms of like, they
truly need somebody to give afuck about them. Like they
really need to be reached.
Because somebody I you know, forthe most part, nobody has at
this point time because theyprobably got, I mean, whatever.
I'm speaking from my own kind oflife. You got nobody around you

(41:37):
that really gives a fuck, it'sall kind of hell, you know what
I mean? So you come to thisplace, how are you going to give
a fuck you? But those are thepeople that kind of need the
most because if they don't getcertain things, I mean, wanting
just drag a class down tosociety starts fucking you know,
fighting on United flights.

(42:01):
Yeah, too bad.

So how did you with your experience? Because I know
you grew up with a you know,you're single mom and you know,
you share in bunk beds with yourbrother monies was a struggle.
So how did you kind of like,decide? I mean, because you've
you've had a great career foryourself? How do you think you
didn't end up just going, Oh, Ican't fucking be a comedian or
something like that. I'll justgo work at alzado supply or
whatever. I mean, how did you

get supply?
That's how those there? No, Ijust did to sound like a good
name. I mean, honestly, almostevery day, I quit being a
comedian. You know, there's somepart of my day where I go, not
every day, I won't say everyday. But every once in awhile,
like, What the fuck are youdoing? Stop it, stop writing

(42:45):
things on things. Go dosomething. I don't know what
that would be. But I truly thinksolely because I decided when I
was 10 that it's the thing thatI wanted to do that it always it
always gave me some kind ofthing. Like I I started drinking
when I was very, very young,from like, 13 to about 1718.

(43:06):
Like, hard. I had an ulcer whenI was 15, I had to take these
fucking pills. And I stoppeddrinking. Because I started
going to start going to thisacting class, I had a part time
job. And I was paying for thisacting class when I was like 16.
And I was in drama class in highschool. And both of those

(43:28):
things, I thought, well, this iswhat I want to do. So I don't
want to fucking ruin myselfdrinking. So I guess I had some
thing that some goal or whateverthat kept me in some certain
way. Does that make any sense?
Because

Unknown (43:46):
exactly see that. And I think that's what's missing
right now. Is like when I wouldwork with these kids, and I, you
know, I was a counselor. So I'dbe asking, like, hey, what do
you want to do? And like, a lotof them don't know. Now,
hopefully, some of them getstraightened out, they mature
and they figure out what theirpurpose is. But that seems to be
the biggest problem in the worldright now, in my opinion, is
that I think people they don'thave a purpose. And there's a

(44:07):
lot of people Yeah, even if theyhave a job, it's not really what
they're meant. It would be likeif you were still working at
Starbucks or something, that'dbe such a waste like you're
meant for so many better things.
And so I think there's a lot ofpeople that are in jobs they
hate or doing just nothing atall and they're not achieving
their purpose. And then I thinkwhen you start achieving a
purpose you're like, Oh, this iswhat I was like meant to do.

(44:27):
This is like what I'm put on theearth for and yeah, you don't
feel depressed it's allconnected to mental health to
like,

I think Oh, totally. And that's actually
another reason I kind of getscared of the future. And every
time I say that I sound 80 or 90but if if AI and robots which
they will eventually take outeverything. Everybody will be
clinically flocked because Imean ever go to a town that used
to have like a factory and thenthe factory left. You ever see

(44:57):
those fucking people? Theirteeth falling out of their
fucking heads, they're limping.
They don't have anything to do.
Right to eat yourself, you startto like break down, people do
need things to do. So if AItakes all the jobs and robots
take whatever small jobs areleft. I mean, they talk about
UBI. And you talk to certainpeople, and they go, Well, that

(45:19):
sounds great. I sit home, andthe government gives me three
grand a month or whatever, Idon't go to work. I just gotta
buy shit. Man, that sounds coolfor like, three months. And then
you're gonna go, this is life. Ido nothing. Things are
everything's done for me. I donothing. I go on Amazon, I press

(45:43):
Enter, shit gets thrown throughmy fucking window. And this is
my whole life. I mean, thatseems horrible. And also sorry
to go back to what we weretalking a second ago. I somehow
feel these related but maybe I'mcrazy. The I don't I think a lot
of people don't necessarily knowwhat it is they're trying to do.
And I think some people who grewup in certain situations, think,

(46:10):
I don't know, whatever. Thinkthat maybe either a teacher or
parents or somebody will helpthem with that. And I think a
lot of times, nobody, nobody'sgoing to help you. Yes, no, than
anybody tells you that. Yeah,that's

exactly right.
Great advice right there.
Nobody's coming to save you. NotNot? Not the government. Yeah,
you got to figure this shit outon your own. I mean, there's
people that will help you, Ithink you got to go out and seek
out that help, I think,

yeah, and you also have to figure out and
decide what it is that you wantto do. And it's harder. I'm if,
if I'm being very serious, whenI think about it now, like, my
dad wasn't around, and my momloved stand up, stand up was
always in the house when I was akid. And I remember just looking
at it when I was a kid, and justI just fucking gravitated to it.
And I mean, one day, you know,all this could turn horrible.

(46:59):
And I fucking live under abridge, drink my own piss or
whatever. But it'll have ahorror, a horrible story. But,
but I was lucky in the sensethat I don't know these, these
things sort of happen the waythat they happen and, and I
gravitated towards the thing.
You know, I remember meetingpeople in college, I even talked
to a woman the other day, 24year old who said she doesn't

(47:21):
know what she wants to do withher life. And she keeps trying
to do a bunch of things, to seeif anything kind of sticks. And
she asked me about me and Isaid, Oh, I kind of knew I want
to do this since I was 10. And Idon't know, to me, because it's
me, I guess I don't really thinkof that as anything crazy. But
she was like, That's fuckingamazing. That's so crazy. I wish
that I had been that way. And Ihave had that conversation with
a few people over the years. Andanyways, yeah, I think a lot of

(47:45):
people out there trying tofigure out what it is they got
to do, but or want to do, butit's a it's completely on, on
us, because there is a lot ofpeople who, you know, there's
people who their parents wantthem to be a doctor, now they're
a doctor. And they would ratherlive under a bridge drinking
therapists, you know, becausethey're fucking deep in a torso
or whatever, because I don'twant to be here.

Right, exactly.
Well, I think there's a lot ofpeople that have those kinds of
dreams, like yourself, like, oh,I want to be a comedian or
something. And they go, no, no,I can't, that's not realistic. I
can't do that. And then theydon't do it. Or they don't get
at least give it a shot and tryit. And I think that's the time
to do is when you're young. Yousay fuck it, I'm gonna give this
five or 10 years, and then maybeafter five or 10 years, you go,

(48:28):
Well, you know, I'm not verygood at this. Am I making any
money? Whatever, I can't pay thebills, then maybe try some maybe
you got to pivot. But I mean,that's maybe.

Yeah. I don't know. Again, I think I was kind
of lucky in that way too.
Because like, there was nothingto fall back on. You know what I
mean? Like, my mom doesn't ownsome kind of fucking forced
forestry company. You know,there's nothing. There's no,
there's nothing. So I was like,alright, well, and I remember
working at when I worked at NW Italked to a guy who was 16 when
I worked there, and a guystarted working there who was

(49:01):
like 35, something like that.
And he was he had a degree inpsychology. And he he just
couldn't find any work. Whichpsychology is, you know, it's an
interesting one. But in my 16year old head, I went, Wow, he
this guy did all the rightthings. You're supposed to go to

(49:21):
college. You're supposed to geta degree and we're standing
beside each other. Now. Thisisn't me judging him. But I
thought oh, fuck, if that canlead right the fuck here anyway.
I'll just keep writing shit onpaper and screaming it at people
in bars. You don't I mean, like,if all of this can come right
here making a Papa burger?
Bucket. I mean, you know what Imean?

No, that's exactly like you ever seen that Jim
Carrey speech where he talksabout that father was like, was
a really funny, could have beena really funny comedian, but he
was too scared. So he took thisaccounting job, then he loses
the job. And it's like, he'slike, Yeah, you could fail doing
what you hate. So you might aswell fail doing what you love.

Yeah, but Jim Carrey Yeah, Jim Carroll never
ended up living under a bridge.
Now he's gonna be okay. Don'tpass even though he did grow up
on a bus. Cleaning piss. Hestarted that way. He grew up.

Yeah, he grew up poor. I mean, I thought probably
helped motivate him. I lovethose kinds of stories, the rags
to riches kind of inspirationalstories to me, like that
inspires me. I'm like, oh, maybethis is stupid to think I could
do podcasting, but maybe itcould. I don't know. They're
gonna give it a shot. Why not?
Yeah,

of course. Oh, shit. Real quick, two things.
Yeah. Did you like the DavidGoggins book.

I fucking love David Goggins. I mean, talk
about inspirational Have youheard is have you read his
story? Or have you heard thatbook? Yeah. Okay. So you know,
yeah. So I fucking love I love Ilove his clips. Like, he's, I
love He's like one of my dreamguests. I would love to have him
on my podcast. I would love tohave him like in my head. Like,
just every fucking day. ChuckGet the fuck up. Go to, you

(51:01):
know, go to the gym. Fuckinggoat, sir. We're gonna talk.
Like I need like that voice inmy head like 20 471 of

my favorite things of his. Um, I also just
on a complete side note, I likeBuffalo and a lot of people
think I'm crazy for that. I likeBuffalo and Buffalo has given me
a lot of things. I love RickJames have forever. Way before
Chappelle is fucking sketch. Ilove David Goggins. And I also
love Grizelda. There's like,Buffalo personally, for some

(51:31):
weird reason has given me abunch of shit. But my favorite
Goggins video, I think, andobviously, there's tons of them.
He's running, obviously, andhe's talking to these videos.
Yeah, he's right. He's alwaysrunning. And he's just talking
about how it's like 100 andfucking 20 degree day, and it's
the humidity is that like, 900or something? And some guy
drives by him, and it's like,Hey, man, why are you out here

(51:52):
and Goggins goes because you'renot, I love because you're not
somebody has to be out hererunning. It's not you. Will be
me. I just love that. Oh, also,my second thing to you is
there's gonna ask, maybe this istoo far, or big or deep or
whatever?

Oh, this is gonna be good. I'm excited now. And as
a former

teacher, okay.
What are your thoughts on slugin all the craziness that
happens with schools? Now? Interms of like, shootings?

Unknown (52:36):
Ah, that's actually a great question. I actually. So I
don't know if you know anythingabout my podcast, but I do. I
interview not just comedians, Italk to musicians. And I talk to
authors. And since my degree wasin psychology, I love
psychology. So I've hadpsychologists on the show and
actually had an expert who wrotetwo books. I don't think I have
them here. I think they're in myother office. But he wrote two

(52:59):
books about mass shootings. Andwe had a great discussion.
Nobody watched it. Nobody knowswho this guy is, he should be
the most famous person inAmerica, because every time
there's a mass shooting, I feellike he should be on every
channel, talking and explainingthis whole thing. But nobody
knows who he is. Because hedoesn't sell, you know, the

(53:21):
airtime or you know, he's notexciting or whatever. But his
whole thing is, it's all aboutthe warning signs. And almost
every mass shooting, there'swarning signs, and we just don't
fucking know how to identifythem. There's almost no I think
if we had educate the public onthat, that's, that's a huge
piece of and that's just onepiece of it. But obviously,

(53:43):
there's other stuff, too.
There's the whole gun thing.
There's a whole security thing.
But the whole mental health Ithink a lot and I think that's
just mental health in general. Ithink we were just seeing the
mass shooting to me is like,it's like the tip of the
iceberg, right? It's like that'slike the absolute worst. But
then there's tons of people downhere that are suffering that are
in emotional pain every singleday. They're just not shooting

(54:07):
people. Maybe they're killingit. Maybe they end up killing
themselves. Maybe they just dieof a heart attack from stress. I
mean, there's tons of terriblethings and we just don't really
like acknowledge it or talkabout it. We only talk about the
mass shootings that's like theworst piece of it obviously, but
it's it's a greater problem thatis just being ignored, I think
and personally.

Yeah, it just seemed to be being ignored. And
also I think I hate sayingthings like this, I guess but
specifically to here. As aperson who grew up outside of
America. I have a lot ofAmerica's meant to make you go

(54:52):
fucking nuts. First. This is howI personally feel about this
place it this is like this ismeant to drive people insane in
a weird way. The news isconstantly first of all couldn't
be louder anytime I've ever beenat an airport. It's Jack. I
don't know why is CNN couldn'tbe louder Fox couldn't be louder
the news is on and an airportwhich I always kind of found

(55:13):
crazy as is. The news is alsojust grim death darkness be
afraid constantly. This place iYeah, makes people go nuts as
well, I think. No, you'reabsolutely right. designed this
way, you know, because there'sother places you can go and live
that are calmer. They're justlike, calmer to be in. But as

(55:36):
soon as you land here, you justfeel it. It's the food the whole
fucking. I mean, do you evenjust the infrastructure, mainly
drive on some of these highwaysand you go, okay, clearly,
somebody somewhere wants me tobe angry. Because there's a hole
in this. There's a hole. There'sa hole. I paid tax this year. I

(55:58):
don't know where the fuck itgoes. But this is a hole. This
rip my car, right? The fuckinghalf. You know what I mean?
Like, how we're supposed to eateverything. I just feel that
this place kinda is meant todrive people insane.

Well, it's interesting that you say that.
And I remember like, going backto the mass shooting thing. Like
I remember the I think it wasthe 90s It was a long time ago.
And I'm not I'm not a really abig fan of this guy. But Michael
Moore made that movie Bowlingfor Columbine. Right? Yeah. And
I don't think a lot of peoplesaw it. But it was really
interesting, because they talkedabout the shootings. And one of
my biggest takeaways from thatmovie was that because he goes

(56:34):
to Canada, do you remember that?
He goes to Canada. And that'sweird. Like he because I think
is he Canadian? He's Canadian,right? Or? No, he's from
Michigan. Oh, that's right. Buthe knew like because Canada was
across the border. So I think hespent time there, whatever. But
he goes to Canada interviews,Canadians, he's like, Oh, that's
weird. Like, Canadians haveguns. But they don't do the mass
shootings like the US. He'slike, what's the problem? And
then he's like the answer inthat movie. And of course, 20

(56:55):
years ago, so maybe things havechanged a little bit. But not
really, it was all about themedia and how our media like
hypes it up and like, makes itand that's exactly what you're
saying where you go here. Andthis place is meant to drive
people crazy. It's our media isjust, it's so dramatic. Now, I
used to see when I was a kid, Iremember watching the news. And
I was like, Oh, this is fuckingboring the news because they

(57:15):
would just report the news. Andit was like, it's not that
exciting. But now it's like,because of the internet and shit
and tick tock and Twitter. Themajor news channels are like,
Oh, we can't just report thenews. Because people get that
shit on Twitter. Like, we gottasay something. You know, crazy.
We gotta get people riled up. Wegotta gotta get people tuning
in. If we say everything'sgreat, and the world is fine,
like, you're not gonna watch thenews, right? So we got to say,

(57:37):
like, the world is crazy. And itdoesn't matter which channel you
watch, if you watch Fox News,they're going to sell you a
different brand of fear thanCNN, but they're both selling
you fear. And so I gotta tune into CNN or Fox News. So they tell
me what to do next. And I thinkit's all about it's all boils
down to money, because they're,they want to make money from
marketing and advertising andsales. And that's the whole
America everything iseverybody's trying to sell you

(57:58):
something that I don't know ifthat's as big of a thing in
Canada.

Yeah, I think.
Yeah, like health care andstuff. And I mean, yeah, I don't
know, man, I just feel I justfeel that this this place is
designed to make people Fuckingsnap.

Well, the weird thing is to is that as much as
every everything is designed tomake money, and these
corporations, they want to makethis money. But then it's like,
what's interesting is that Ifeel like a lot of the just the
average people used to be like asource of pride and work. Even
if you're working in a in W orsomething, you're like, I'm
gonna work hard so that one dayI might be assistant manager,
and now it's like, I feel likenobody gives a shit. In any job

(58:42):
that you go into. It doesn'tmatter if you go to the dentist.
Your second secretary theredoesn't give a shit. Or if you
go to get your car fixed. Thatguy working there doesn't give a
shit anywhere you go. It feelslike there's just no pride. Like
nobody gives a shit. Now if I goto Mexico, like across the
border, I go I go into arestaurant there. It's like, I
mean, they are so grateful tohave you and like, oh Senor come

(59:03):
on it and like they treat youlike a royalty. And it's like we
just don't ever want to hearit's just like burnout just
doesn't give a shit. That's whatit feels like to me.

Yeah, no, I can see that burned down I guess
to Folsom. We were talkingearlier about social media and
stuff. I mean, there's just somuch to look at and compare
yourself to and and all of itthat I don't know if that's
gonna have some kind of a factoras well. Like, why give a fuck
about your bullshit life whenyou're watching somebody, you
know? With a big ass, you know?
It's hard to care about thattable when you're like,

(59:34):
shouldn't be fucking this woman.
What am I gonna do to focus?

Now that's so true.
So frustrating too, is like, I'msure as you know, is like you're
trying to get somebody to watchclips of your stand up. That's
brilliant. It's really smart,funny stuff. But then you're
competing with some woman with abig ass and it's like, that's
got like 5 million views and allshe had to do is just go out
there and shake her ass andyou're like,

Yeah, well, not all she had to do so Gotta
get it should we bought acertain way? Maybe she went down
to Miami and paid for it. Imean, I'll say this. You know,
good for her man. God loverdude. Because if it's not if
it's not an asset, it's a Idon't know, maybe some
horrifying news story so youdon't have to take that. Yeah,

(01:00:18):
no, I think it's

Unknown (01:00:18):
okay to to, to try to.
I think that's the other thingpeople are not doing is limiting
their either social media ortheir time watching the news
like it really does brainwashyou. I think like, I catch
myself I go, oh shit, I'mfalling down that rabbit hole
again, I'm, I'm getting too muchinto the news because it's all
negative. And then I'm like,Okay, I gotta do something
different. I gotta listen tosome like, uplifting David

(01:00:38):
Goggins shit, or some podcastsor things like that. And then it
like, kind of like reset yourbrain? And literally like, oh,
yeah, the world is great. Idon't know what like it. I mean,
literally, like, think about it.
Like, if you didn't know who thePresident was, for the last, I
don't know, 15 or 20 years,would you? I mean, you probably
wouldn't even know what's or ifyou turn the news off. Like, I

(01:00:58):
don't know that it would reallyaffect your life that much.
Obviously, during the pandemic,that was kind of a weird time
for sure. But for the most part,it's like, I don't know that we
need to know about every murderand terrible thing.

Nathan Macintosh (01:01:12):
Yeah, yeah.
And I mean, you know, whatever.
Maybe I've been kind of negativehere points of time. But there
are unbelievable things on thisearth and in this world that are
great and positive and good andreasons to be here and try to do
good and I want to connect withpeople and all that kind of

(01:01:32):
thing. You know, like there'sthere's a billion there's way
more reasons to do that thanthere isn't the other ones. Are
they have more of a poll? Likemaybe then then the good ones,
you know, even like you'retalking about this guy who wrote
the books. Most people probablyhe might not just be known

(01:01:53):
because people don't want totalk about it. Because like, who
wants to care about the fuckingthe reasoning we want to care
that it happened? You know whatI mean? We want to talk about
this horrible tragedy and wewant to argue with each other
but should we ban guns Buck usshould we watch Ted Cruz and his
weird soup fucking face head?
You know, I have I sometimes Ifeel bad about talking about

(01:02:16):
anybody from here because I'mnot born here. Yeah, Ted Cruz,
however, was born in Canada, soI didn't know he was born on a
military base in Alberta. Howcan he run for president then?
How can he indeed Chuck I thinkit's because he's born on a
military base, which is liketechnically American soil. It
ain't technically to me. Ain'ttechnically to me. I would have

(01:02:40):
also been like, Excuse me, sir.
Well, you're not born inAlberta, Canada yet thought but
but anyways. Yeah, I don't know.
Those things seem to be biggerdeals and more fun I don't know
is a terrible term but more funfor people to talk about and
argue about then. Then whateverthis man is, boy yeah, there's

(01:03:02):
just

Unknown (01:03:04):
there's so much Division I mean, you talk about
the Ted Cruz's I mean all thoseguys like they don't they all
they do is fight each other.
Like, I think I don't know maybeit was always like that, because
I guess I didn't really use payattention to politics until the
last few years, but it seemslike they used to work together
and maybe like actually try toaccomplish something now they
just, they just fight and Idon't know. And I feel like

(01:03:24):
that's just like, that's all ourcountry. We all just fight like
why can't we just put our headstogether and come up with some
logical solutions that are winwin for everyone. And that's
Bucky,

Chuck, that's why. Tell me how to fucking live
dude. The backs are wrestlinghere real quick. Okay, wrestling
in the Okay, so politics in the90s was pretty casual. And I'm
sure some of you be like, butBill Clinton got blown cool
dude, if that's the biggestthing, if that would have been
the biggest thing that's goingon the last couple of years.

(01:03:56):
Hurray for us. However, it wasnot much rather go back to a day
when a guy's getting sucked youknow, but anyways, that's kind
of what whatever that's thebiggest thing was going on. But
politics is like what you'resaying kind of like pretty
boring. A man would come out andsay some stuff whenever
wrestling was the exactopposite. Wrestling was tense
and chairs blood and death andand hell it was like it was

(01:04:20):
craziness. They call it theAttitude Era was all hell.
Wrestling then went into the PCera, which is no blood. No
swearing, no tickets, no cheershots. Politics went for
wrestling. Yeah, oh on thiswoman's a whore. That's a dog
Facebook and piece of shit. Thisguy's a liar. I didn't try to

(01:04:43):
take over this building with mypeople and then yell at all of
you that you're fucked. I mean,it is wrestling and whatever. I
remember talking about this atthe time. I I used to do Red Eye
on Fox. And we're gonna talkabout regular like, people in

(01:05:06):
the back like we're talking likeI don't know names some people
that you've seen on TV who areRepublican people in the
greenroom, regular humans. I'vetalked to them and I'm like,
Hey, how are you guys wheneverit seems we get on TV, then like
everybody should have a gun.
Scratch that everybody should bea gun. Everybody's legs should
be guns, their arms guns, theirfaces a grenade, and just the
things they would say you goHoly shit. And I remember this

(01:05:26):
is when t Diddy was running forpresident and I was talking
about how I go guys, this is allwrestling this man. He comes
down an escalator. He's got hishis fucking his bank statements.
I mean, this is this is this iswrestling for God's sake. I go
and he's in the WWE WWE Hall ofFame. I go, I saw it. I was

(01:05:48):
there. I watched him be inductedin New Jersey. 2012 Wrestlemania
29 Fucking MetLife Stadium. Andthey'd be like, shut up, boo.
And then we'd go to commercial.
And I'm not lying. Every one ofthem will look at me. And they
go, you're kidding about that.
Right? Like he's not in the WWEHall of Fame ago. Yes, he is. I
saw it happen and thesestatements and this person and

(01:06:14):
these chants. I'm like, this iswrestling? What the fuck? Are we
talking about?

Chuck Shute (01:06:24):
The voice Correct?
No, you're exactly right. Imean, but it has to be on both
sides. It's got to be dramatic.
Or people don't. I mean,probably some of them the my
favorite. The I don't likepoliticians. There's a few
handful that I'm like, oh, thatperson actually has some really
good ideas. This person isactually really smart. Those
people never, nobody even hasever heard of them. They don't

(01:06:48):
get anywhere in politics,because they're not theatrical.
And they're not dramatic. It'salways the people that are the
craziest the Marjorie Taylorgreens and the AOCs that are
saying the craziest shit andyou're going, really, and they
have like millions of followers,and they're super popular.

I don't know.
Because the middle, the middledoesn't sell tickets. And the
middle also, I feel gets tired.
So because if you're in themiddle, right, and you'll listen
to somebody on the far, farleft, who's like, I think my
three year old is a unicorn. Andthen somebody on the far far
right who's like, again, weshould we should build an igloo.

(01:07:25):
Oh over America so that nobodyelse can ever get in here again.
And I feel people in the middlejust sort of go bucket. But
there's too much bucket. Youknow what I mean? Because nobody
nobody with any sort ofreasonable sanity speaks or
speaks enough anyway? Because Iguess one Yeah, people don't pay

(01:07:48):
attention because it's notinteresting. Or to these people
in the middle. Just go Alright,man, I can't deal with this
shit. This is too much. I'm justfucking I'm done. You guys eat
each other? I'm going to be overhere. Carl's Jr. You know what I
mean? Yeah,

no, I agree. Yeah, I used to think like, I used to
my, that was kind of my theory.
I was I was always in themiddle. And I was kind of just
like, I don't, it doesn't reallymatter. And then I feel like,
like, during the pandemic andshit. I was like, okay, shit is
getting weird. Like, this iswhen I'm like, I guess I gotta
start paying attention topolitics now like, but I tried
to cut myself off. Like I said,otherwise I go to go too far

(01:08:25):
down the rabbit hole. And I'mlike, this is depressing. I
don't I don't want to I don'tneed to know all this shit. It's
a lot of it's just the samestories recycled over and over
again.

Yeah, totally.
And again, it's like peoplejust, I don't know, try to do my

part. I have the mass shooting expert on my
podcast. I'm like, Okay, this isgoing to change the world.
That's what I got in the firstplace. Oh, I was 90. I was
Columbine when Columbinehappened. I was sitting in my
apartment in college. And I waslike, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna
solve this problem. I'm gonna bea squeaky clean Er, yeah. And I
was like, I'm gonna get these.
If these kids were at my school,they would not have done this. I
would have saved them. That wasstupid. was a dumb idea. That's

(01:09:04):
what I wanted to

do while thought Yeah,

but I think yeah, I was just gonna say I think I
can. I was hoping that Ithought, I think maybe I can
affect more people withsomething like a podcast, I can
have people on, we can discussideas. And you know, I can reach
more people this way. Because Iwas I obviously failed as a
school counselor. So tryingsomething different. You didn't

feel as a school counselor, you just
switched the, the the deliverysystem. Me and somebody have
talked about this a bunch interms of comedy. This is why
people put stuff online as well.
If you ask for a council, thecity be more but let's say
you're a comedian. Okay. And youtalk to 200 people a night,
right? Every night. How long doyou think it takes you to reach

(01:09:55):
a million people?

Um, 200 people that's like a math problem.

Just take a guess I know the answer. Just
take 100 people a night to reacha man long does it take you to
get to a million people that youhave reached with your comedy?

What would that be?
Like? See? Is it 50,000? No,

he doesn't want

50,000 times 200.
Is that a million? No. Yeah,

whatever. It's sure it would be 13 years.

13 years? Okay. Two years. 1000 appearances of 200
people, right? Yeah,

yes. 13 years to reach 1 million people. Okay.
And so as a counselor, how muchhow much is that? Now? That's
like, you're talking to 120people a day? Jesus, I mean,
it's gonna take you a billionyears. Okay. So something like
this. You could potentially havea clip from something or the

(01:10:58):
podcast itself, the whole thing,reach a million people. You
know, I'm saying, so I don'tthink you've done anything. I
don't think you've failed. As acounselor, I think you have
shifted it into a differentthing now, where you failed as a
counselor was talking to me. Ihave very little to offer the
universe. But But no, I washaving that. No, absolutely. But

(01:11:22):
as far as having that person on,especially when this is why you
started the getting intocounseling at all, which is
pretty crazy story do. Havingthat person on this platform is
is a bigger thing potentiallythan bringing him into your
school?

Oh, yeah, for sure.
Well, I mean, it's like it'ssomething that we as adults need
to take care of. It's not Imean, we need to help the kids.
But it's not. It's not likewe're going to put the problem
on the kids. Hey, kids. I mean,it would be nice if we could
educate kids on how to look forsomething. We need to educate
the whole America on how to lookfor these warning signs and
stuff. But yeah, I don't know. Imean, one thing, going back to

(01:12:04):
the shooting thing, though, itis interesting, I thought I read
something about how Texas raisedthe age to buy a gun to like, 21
or something like that. Here'sone thing where I, you know, I'm
pro what does it second amendwhatever? Like, I'm not like, I
don't love guns, but I feel likeyeah, people should have guns.
But kids, I think you raise itto 25, maybe 30, maybe 45. That

(01:12:26):
I mean, this generation shouldnot have maybe 70,

maybe 80.
Maybe right on your deathbed.
Does. Anybody want to get out?
Before you get out of here? No.

Generation, but I don't know if it would I mean,
I'm sure it would probably cutdown. I'm sure some kids are
going to find a way to get itanyway. But I mean, if you raise
that up, these these kids, theythey're prepared to deal with
guns. I don't know that they'remost of them don't drive. Most
of most of the kids. No one whenyou when you and I were kids,
you probably got your licensewhen you were 16. Right? Yeah,

(01:13:05):
yeah, these kids now they don't,that no 16 year old has their
license. They all just takeUber.

I drove right to a gun store to and I bought
bought as much as I could carry.
No, I mean, yeah, it's certainthings gotta be done. But then
there is also the argument tothat people are gonna be like,
well, criminals are gonna getblah, blah, blah. And it's like,
Alright, so we just do nothingthen. But, but it does seem to
be now. Man, things. Thesethings happen in such a degree

(01:13:34):
that

yeah, no, I agree.
I mean, I don't disagree withgun control, or background
checks or any of that shit. Butultimately, like, Okay, you got
to think like if you're a kid,or an adult, and you want to
fucking take out a bunch offucking people. Yeah, the gun is
probably your easiest go toanswer right now. But yeah, if
they took away all the guns ifthey found a way that magically

(01:13:58):
they could seriously get rid ofevery gun, like what that
doesn't really take away thehomicidal urge right? I mean, so
then you What are you gonna havepeople driving trucks through
crowds you're gonna have likethe Oklahoma bombing shit like
the Boston bombing the fuckingwhat else like a fire or
something? I don't know likepeople don't there'll be some
somebody else set the precedentand it'd be like, This is the

(01:14:19):
new thing I'm gonna startsending a bunch of Molotov
cocktails through windows of adaycare and then that'll be the
new and then everyone will justcopy it and I don't think that's
really getting to the root Ithink the root of the problem is
why the fuck do you want to killa bunch of innocent people like
that's disturbing that's what Ithat's what I want to get to the
root of why do you have this andagain I think it goes back to to

(01:14:40):
is like people are lost peopleare stressed out they don't
haven't found a purpose like Iguarantee you nobody is put on
this earth is a purpose to hurtand kill a bunch of other
people. That's just not in thecards.

But what Dahmer

Dahmer serial killer

Yeah, yeah, I

Unknown (01:15:02):
think it'd

be a put here to do that.

No, I think he went down a dark path. And I think he
could have in a differentscenario. You know, I mean, you
know the whole story right? Didyou watch the show?

Yeah. And I've also like, fucking read books
about him before that he can'ttell you this. I was really just
poking around. No,

dead serious. But Dahmer I mean, that's a perfect
example I worked with thesekids. Not obviously not Dahmer,
but I work with kids for 17years. And you see it so like
what happens like his, his dadbasically says like, fuck it,
I'm out right and ditches himand then the the mom, why didn't
she leave to cheat when to gowith a guy

or had some fucking problem, right?
Something?

Something? Yeah.
Anyways, both the parents justsay like, fuck it, I'm out. They
left a kid by himself. I mean,this kid is hurting. And then he
discovers alcohol starts gettingfucking hammered. And then
probably just had this rage likebuilding inside of him. And you
know, and then he killedsomebody. And then he got
addicted to that feeling of likethat adrenaline or whatever it

(01:16:12):
was. And then he just keptfucking doing that, like I think
he could have there's if youever read the book, I forget
what it's called, like thepsychopath next door or
something like that. I alwaysforget I always get those two
confused sociopath psychopath.
Anyways, like, like they say,like, one in five or one in six
people is technically like asociopath. Right? So, but

(01:16:34):
there's a lot of people thatwere that it actually benefits
them, like, think and feel likeyou're a surgeon. Like if you
got really emotional and you'relike, Oh, my God, like this
person died, like, I can nevergo up. I can never be a surgeon.
I'm way too emotional. Butpeople like that they kind of
need to be, like, be able toturn off their emotions like
that. And just, but they'reproductive citizens if they're,
I mean, hopefully they're goodsurgeons, and they're saving

(01:16:56):
people's lives and things likethat. I mean, that could have
been Dahmer. And he was I thinkhe was a medic in the Army. He
could have gone down, away or hehe was into the blood and the
guts and all that didn't growsome out, right. I mean, he
could have saved people.

Let's try.
Let's try not to sympathize withlet's not go down this road. I
was really just walking aroundwhen I said when I said Dahmer,
I should not have said Dahmerhere.

That's an extreme example. But I'm just saying,
and maybe I'm totally wrong. Imean, it's very possible that he
was just born to be a he was afucking psychopath. And he was
just gonna be a killer. Nomatter what he did in his life,
no matter what happened, whereyou put him, you could have
raised him with a perfect familyand a rich neighborhood and he
still would have just had thisstrong desire. Some people are
just broke down. So I mean, thatyeah, that is the thing. For

(01:17:47):
sure.

Yeah. I don't disagree with you. They're
fucked up. But, but um, butyeah, I don't know, man. The
anyways, I just want to ask youwhat your what your thought was
on on that as somebody who'sworked in the school system?

No, I think it's a complicated issue. I really do I
but I think, to me, it's like anI know, like, that's a cop. I
feel like that's a cop out ofpeople on the right. Like, oh,
no, we need to talk about mentalhealth. It's like, okay, well,
then, then fucking do somethingabout mental health. Because I
would love that I would love tosee our country have more. I
mean, that's the other thing. Idon't know if you guys have the

(01:18:22):
homeless issues. And I know youyou probably do in New York, you
have the encampments. I mean,that's a huge issue, too.
There's, there's big issues withthe homeless and mental health.
That's another piece of itthat's just not being addressed.
And I don't know, it's sad. Imean, it's, I see a lot of great
things in our country, but Ialso feel like our country is
broken and a lot of ways and,and the the mass shootings is

(01:18:43):
just like, that's just like thetip of the iceberg.

Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we sort of live in asociety that doesn't necessarily
care about the society in aweird way. It's like get what
you can climb to the top of themountain, build a cage around
your house, and just, you know,watch fucking YouTube or
whatever. And fuck everybodyelse, but seems to kind of be
you know, and more so thatpeople that can do something,

(01:19:09):
you know, because I mean, wecould yell about guns and
whatever and I guess I mean,like down here, but then the
people that can actually passbills do shit whatever. They
just kind of don't or scream ateach other until nothing really
gets done you sort of go that'salso sort of a part to the
Mexico Well fuck it because ifthe people that are in control

(01:19:29):
don't care, then what am I goingto do which on a small micro
thing we were talking aboutearlier? If parents don't care
kids not really going to careyou know? So the government's
our parents. Not really but youdon't I'm saying like no, I
don't care that one government

Unknown (01:19:47):
Yeah, they can't do I mean, we can do so many that you
have 35,000 followers orwhatever it is on insert way
more than me. I mean, you have away bigger audience. I mean,
what did you like? Cuz I know inSeattle, that's where I'm
originally from. There's thehomeless thing. It's not a
control there, but a Pearl Jamthe band. They did like some
concert and I don't know howmuch they raised, but they
raised a bunch of money. Like, Ifeel like she'll like that is

(01:20:09):
like, that's what we got to do.
We got to stop it goes back to Ithink, weren't you saying that
earlier about how, like, noone's going to come to save you
we can't expect the governmentto did that's what I'm saying
asked you if you've worked inthe government, because I just
feel like it's so incompetent,they can't do anything. I mean,
I just saw that side of itworking in the school, but who
was I talking to? I can'tremember who it was. But they
were basically saying the samething that even at the highest

(01:20:30):
levels of the government, it'sjust a, it's still like that.
It's just a complete mess. Andnobody knows what the fuck
they're doing. So it's like, Ithink we could just, we could
save each other. Just littlethings. It's trying to help each
other out and reach out topeople that you're like, you
know, like, my cousin Jim islike, you know, he's not doing
so well right now. Maybe Ishould reach out to him. And
maybe I should see if he and hisif he has any guns, you know,

(01:20:53):
that kind of thing. Like, Imean, all these instances with
the mass shootings, there wasalways somebody that was like,
yes. The Vegas one did you didyou hear the story on that one?
Like the what was it like thewife or I think she was like,
kinda like a mail order bride orsomething. She's like, Yeah,
he's like, he had all thesemachine guns and things in the
garage. But you know, he'sbuying me jewelry. So I just, I
didn't say anything. It's like,Oh, I could have saved so many

(01:21:15):
lives.

Yeah, the thing that happened in Nova
Scotia, there was a bunch ofpeople that went to the cops and
about the guy. And they werelike, man, there's a lot of
shit. And people just sort ofjust put it aside, you know, it
said, there are definitelythings that can be done.

Yeah, your solution if you if you if you were
alluding to the President. Yeah.
If you could do if you had youhad a magic wand and you could
I'm not magic because but like arealist, I like you couldn't
just magically erase guns, butif you would you ban all guns,
would you change the ages orbackground checks? Or what would
you do?

Okay, so this is my first day as president?
Yeah. All right. So I'mPresident, first of all Canadian
has ever been the president ofAmerican cancer, a lot of
questions. That first tried.

I fucking hate Ted Cruz. But I hate Hillary
Clinton, too. I feel like TedCruz is the Republican Hillary
Clinton. They're both so fake. Ijust I don't know. I just can't
Oh, just it's always funny

that like, you have to do that. Right. When
someone's like, I hate thisperson. I also hate this person.
Can you just hate one person?
You know,

a lot of people, but I just think like, that's
the side. You know what I mean?
Like, I feel like, although Idid hear, I did hear Hillary on
Howard Stern. And I was like,oh, like, she can actually be
like a normal person. I waslike, like you said, the WWE.
They put on this, like, first,like, I got to talk like this.
And it's like, just be a normalperson.

Yeah. Anyway, sorry. Yeah, I come out, and I
go, alright. Hi. I think I'd sayhi, I think that's fair. So I
just did a show like, Hey, I'mgonna make Burger King free for
the day, across the nation. Andthen if something goes, what are
you gonna do about guns? Ilooked them. I go, Oh, I put

(01:23:10):
sunglasses on. I get no car andI drive away. I think I've just
really okay, dude. I don't know.
I mean, I could give some sortof joke answer. And if I give
any kind of serious answer, Idefinitely need to think about
stuff much longer than I have tothis point. You know what I'm

(01:23:32):
saying? Because there is at onepoint in time, I would have been
just like, yeah, get rid ofthese. Get rid of them. But then
you go. Yeah, it's not thatsimple. Because people will
still get them from wherever. Imean, dude, a lot involved in
fault. I mean, I think I wouldgo to I think one thing you
could do now that I'm thinkingabout it, my first day, I just

(01:23:57):
made Burger King free for theday. For the day,

when is that your favorite?

I feel I feel it's very American, you know,
Burger King. It's a king. I,what I would do is make it I
don't even know how you do this.
Stop letting people accept moneyfrom the NRA. In terms of
politicians, whatever the hellthese people that just get money

(01:24:25):
from these people to passcertain things illegal. I'll do
this okay. If I find out thatyou took some sort of bronze
member years ago, and I thinkthey're still trying to figure
it out. college athletes couldbe fucking banned, kicked out
whatever if they took what notlike bribes but like gifts from
certain schools. You don't Imean, yeah, same deal. If I find

(01:24:49):
out you're the fucking theSenate Leader in for Delaware
and you took some money fromWayne LaPierre to pass some type
of thing you're doing timeyou're going away pal, because I
mean, and then we'll figure outthe rest of it. But I'll try to
stop money common from this buckin organization of hell, hell,

(01:25:11):
and all

it would you stop all the organizations like what
if like, you know, oil companiesor like solar

started with started on gun my question here
today was guns I'm startinghere. I'm starting right here
and then tomorrow, McDonald's isfree. And we'll figure out oil.
All right, fair enough. Yeah, Idon't know. But that part of it
does seem to be a thing as well,these these unlimited finances

(01:25:43):
from this place that can justbuy people. Things, man, I will
say this, too. I don't know howthere's so many people on this
earth, who are able to collectmoney for bad things and be fine
with it. You know what I mean? Idon't I don't understand how
there's this many people thatcan do this. I don't understand

(01:26:07):
how there's this many people whoare completely fine with like,
where did this money come from?
All I gotta do is do what? Allright, and buy a house and
cruise in a boat and be like,Look, I made it like, but where
did you? I think I talked aboutthis in the special a bit. And
if I didn't, I meant to, weshould care more about how
people got money. Not just thatthey have money. You know? So

(01:26:29):
like somebody like, Bezos, wego, ship, man, it's great. This
guy, this guy can almost go tospace. And he's got like, he's
got a $77 million yacht and he'sgot $268 trillion would have
fuck it is right. We're justlike, that's cool. Or whatever
the hell you go. How do you getit? Here like, well, one of the

(01:26:52):
ways that he did is he cuthealth benefits to everybody
that works for him. He hasdrivers. They're not allowed to
really take any kind of breaks,so they're pissing into a cup.
While they're delivering yourgoddamn boxes. and shit like
that. She go. I mean, is thatcool? Doesn't seem very cool.

No, I agree. I you know, I think the biggest thing
with not just Bezos, but likeApple and all these like Mega
fucking ridiculous is Apple,like a trillion dollar
corporation at this point, like,

something like that and have like a $600
million surplus or billiondollar surplus or something
money just sitting in the earththat they don't even talk?

Which Yeah, but it's like, we're all guilty too
of like, using these fuckingproducts like Amazon. I love
Amazon. I love my actually, I'mgetting sick on my fucking
iPhone, to be honest with you.
But we all use these fuckingproducts because there's no
competition, like who's Amazon'scompetition? I would love to
support a business that treatstheir employees better. I'll
even pay a little bit more forthe service if there was some

(01:27:52):
sort of better like Amazon,especially with frickin the
iPhones are made by these childslaves, basically, from what I
understand. And if I'm maybe I'mgetting that wrong, but I don't
think they're made from greatworking conditions. Yeah, the
fucking phones are not. I mean,I keep buying the new one. I'm
like, oh, it's got a bettercamera doesn't have any fucking

(01:28:14):
new innovation. Why don't weinnovate more? And again, I
think that goes back to havingmore people figure out their
purpose. And having there shouldbe like fucking 10 or 100
different phone companies that Ican choose from that. So that
way, you know, Apple doesn'thave 100 or 50% of the
competition when they gotAndroid. Okay, fine. But like,

(01:28:35):
there's, if we split some ofthat shit up, and there's more
company, I remember when like, Idon't know if you remember when
when I was a kid, there was likeMom and Pop banks. Like there
was little banks, like a mom andpop, you can't. Now there's like
five banks or whatever. Becauseif your mom and pop bank, like
you can't afford the lawyers andthe accountants and everything
to follow the regulations, soit's like basically, you're just

(01:28:58):
like, you're fucked. And nowthere's like, just like five
banks, and they controleverything, which is scary shit.

Yeah, and the companies and stuff, too. I
mean, that seems to be a realbig problem, too. Is that like,
there's never enough money? Youknow, you have a billion dollars
in your life. It's not enough,then you get 2 billion.

But I don't think it's about my dad was actually a
financial advisor. So he workedwith all these like rich people
and it to them it's like, it'slike a game. They're not like,
oh, I need more money. It'slike, they like playing the
game. And that's a guaranteethat's the same with Bezos and
musk and all the because theycan pluck and retire. I think a
lot of people just go fuck itlike I've made my money I'll

(01:29:38):
retire but it's like they likeplaying the game and it'll never
stop but I think the only waythat you beat them is that you
have other people play the game.
Better than that and more peopleplaying the game. And you know,
that could definitely changewith you know, I'm sure that a
lot of people would say the gameis rigged. So okay then change
the rules. It If you I love yourthing about the student loans

(01:30:01):
that Britt is that a bit isbrilliant because thanks, man,
we're giving people $80,000 For,as you say, a horse Literature
degree, why don't we give$80,000 to a kid who thinks he
can make a better iPhone? Andlet's see what he can fucking
do. Let's, I bet you somebodycould make a better phone.
something innovative, that'sbetter.

For me at this point, I'd almost be like, let's
find the kid that thinks you canmake a better iPhone and spend
$1,000 shooting him into thesun. Again, I mean, it's never
gonna stop, obviously, but like,stop tech man, but I'm gonna say
I don't know. There wassomething you said that I was

(01:30:43):
gonna comment on. I came up withit was changing the rigged game
and yeah, that's gonna be atough one. So the people who
would change it other peoplethat own it. Why the fuck would
you? Nobody? Nobody, you know,if you own all the fucking
spaces on monopoly, and you say,Hey, we should change the rules.
You're like, Oh, should weshould wait, now that I have
everything. Dammit, I forgotwhat I was gonna say. But um, I

(01:31:07):
don't know either.

This fast is good shit. Like, it's a great
conversation.

I Oh, I hope so.

I think so. I don't know if anybody else is still
listening. But I'd have a greattime. Was this live? No. Okay,
good.

I was like, oh, anyways, yeah, okay. Yeah.

So yeah, I don't know what if you gotta get
going, but I'm having a blast.

Um, well, how long do you don't really do
these? I

usually just like, sometimes only 3040 minutes,
sometimes an hour's when I hadSimon on. I feel like with
comedians, it's always longerwhen I had Simon King on. It was
like, that was like an hour anda half. He's, he's fascinating.
He's good. Are you friends? Alot of other comedians.

Yeah, and I know, I met him years ago. I
mean, both from Canada. But um,but yeah, I mean, I didn't
really realize how long we'vebeen talking. I mean, yeah, we
could shut it off. Right. Am Icrazy? We can we can wrap this
up my knots.

No, this is the good place to wrap it up. But
yeah, I always end promoting acharity. So I mean, that's
another thing I tried to do tobring good into the world. So if
there's something a cause thatyou besides defunding the NRA
is, there's something

I'm gonna say to funding the NRA, if that's a
charity that we could send WayneLaPierre personally, if we can
somehow defund this, man. Youknow,

is there something that is there something that
people could give money to orthat

I'm the one in, there's a Nova Scotia one
that I've donated to it's like achildren's one. Fuck. So you
know what? Send money to NovaScotia? How about that? Just the
whole province itself? I can'tremember the thing was called.
And again, if we could, if wecould defund Wayne LaPierre. I

(01:32:51):
mean, look, I'm not even sayingthat I'm with you in the way of
like, you know, I'm not sayingget rid of the Second Amendment,
whoever it is what it is, butcan you imagine being a guy like
a school shooting happens andthis guy's like, I gotta go
there and give a talk. You know,I
gotta have a convention. I got abunch of my friends here beaten

(01:33:13):
off with guns. You don't I mean,I gotta I gotta fly there. I'm
waiting up here. I got glasses.
I mean,

don't that doesn't the other side do that too. They
come in fucking. They cater tothe, I mean, just the political
so stupid. Like, again, I thinkif people just put their heads
together, work together, andit's never gonna happen.

We're not doing that. That's,

I'm gonna try to do my part. No, nobody watches this
fucking podcast. I try to do mypart. To bring people together.
That's why

I love in the very end, you're like, nobody
will listen to this. Like,that's hilarious to somebody.

But, you know, like, bringing people together
with it. That's the way in witha charity. Like, that's one
thing. It brings out likeeverybody could get together
with helping children in NovaScotia. No one's gonna be like,
No, fuck that. Cause like, youknow, everybody's people
definitely

will say fuck that cause but I mean, those are
the outliers. These are psychos.
But um, I forget what the hell Iforgot that you asked me that.
Because I had the thing butwhatever. Yeah, that's fine.
I'll figure

it out. Yeah.
Children just like sick childrenlike St. Jude's kind of thing
or?

No, it's for like, it was like for sports in
fucking. Well, you can send methe link and I'll send you the
link to happen this entire time.
Yeah, save you the goddamn link.
We did it.

Yeah, it's not Sarah McLaughlin's chair. Isn't
she from Nova Scotia?

No, I think she's from I think she's, I
think she's from Victoria. Okay,I was just up real quick. Just
yeah, I

was looking up Nova Scotia stuff. I was like, Oh, if
there's any like interesting,like Nova Scotia things I can
quiz him about her

way to fucking second your rights. All right,
she's from fucking Halifax.
She's from where I'm from. Yeah,there you go. Fuck When I just
figured this out now, fuck isthis

isn't the internet amazing?

Wow. Wow, well, wow. Okay, yep, you learn
something every day SarahMcLaughlin in Halifax and so we
got fucking Winston Churchill.
Oh, that's a good one too but Imean, you know? No, he's not
from Halifax but anyways, why dothey have a statue of him then?
World War Two man what are yougoing to do? The guy was

(01:35:31):
instrumental without him therebe no fucking Halifax oh please
see that movie say and which was

what was the movie?
Was that where he was it was allabout him that was really
interesting.

Churchill was a movie culture too. Maybe Yeah,
I did not see that. I got a bookabout Churchill years ago that I
tried to read. It's like 900pages and I went and I I'm not
ready for this right now. I'llread it at some point. He seems
like a very interesting, man.
But yeah, you do. I'll send youI'll send you the link of his
fucking charity, man.

Okay, cool. Well, it's been a blast. We'll have to
come back when your nextspecials or anything else
besides the special and thespecial is free. It's on
YouTube. It's only like 45minutes. And great stuff in
there. Love the subway. Thanks.
I love how you call. You callthe spokesman a mascot. I think
that was like mascot. Yeah. Isthat on purpose that you fuck

(01:36:21):
that up? Like, yeah,

I want to call the mascot and he mean he is. He
was technically the fuckingmascot. He's parading around his
pants. Every time somebodythought about something they
thought of Jared. Yeah. Full oncriminal fucking psycho monster.
Yeah. But yeah, I mean that. MyInstagram. I got a bunch of
shows coming up. They're allNathan macintosh.com. So yeah,

(01:36:46):
man. It's been great. Thanks somuch for having me. I apologize.
I was late. No, it

was fine. Yeah. Do you ever come to you don't come
to Arizona or I don't see it onthe list of show dates.

I haven't in a bit but I'll figure it out.
Somebody asked me about thatyesterday to to come to the set.
Do you ever come to the desert?
In Arizona? I'm like, do youmean like, like a city or like
literally the desert?

State stage looks at some cactuses. Yeah, well,
yeah. Some

cacti? Yeah, hopefully soon. Hopefully soon.
I do want to go there. So yeah,

okay, keep me posted or, you know, sometimes I
drive to Vegas or LA if it'sfrom around there. So. Okay,
cool. Stay in touch. Thanks,Nathan.

Thank you, man. Appreciate it. All right.

See you later. The very funny, intelligent and
entertaining Nathan McIntosh.
Definitely check out a stand upon all social media and YouTube.
Just watching a few clips you'llbe hooked. Again, the new
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