November 26, 2024 • 12 mins
Our latest episode features the creative minds behind the world premiere of "The Fall" at the Mammoth Film Festival. Join director and writer Sean Hart, producer Michael Schilf, and talented actors Jeremy Sumpter, Cassandra Scerbo, Matthew Fahey, and Thomas Cocquerel as they share the profound journey of bringing this emotionally charged film to life. Uncover how Sean's personal experiences with loss shaped the narrative, and explore the unconventional yet effective collaboration that formed the nucleus of this remarkable project.
Peek behind the curtain to understand the foundational pillars of Lunar Door, the production company co-founded by Michael Schilf, which emerged from the success of a short film in 2019. Discover how the team leveraged enduring industry relationships to assemble a dream cast that included friends and seasoned actors for "The Fall." This episode offers more than just a glimpse into a film premiere; it's a testament to the power of collaboration, storytelling, and the resilience of a creative community. Perfect for those passionate about filmmaking, artistry, and the transformative impact of compelling narratives, this is a conversation you won't want to miss.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When we built our company, it was important that
we had foundational pillars, andthe reason why it's called
Lunar Door is when you look atthe logo, you see a little man
on a lunar surface and a doorChase and I we're the little man
.
The door is the decision tomake the project.
For us to step through thatthreshold it's going to take a
(00:20):
lot of time, a lot of sweatequity, and if we believe that
it can change lives, then we'regoing to put the work in to do
it.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
This is the Cinematography for Actors
podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
More than a podcast.
Cinematography for Actors is avibrant community devoted to
bridging the gap between talentand crew.
Each week, our show offerstransparent, insightful
conversations with industryleaders.
We unveil the magic behind thescenes, from candid discussions
about unique filmmakingprocesses to in-depth technical
exploration.
Join us in unraveling theintricacies of filmmaking, one
(00:55):
episode at a time.
It's more than just cameras andlenses we aim to inspire,
educate and empower as we peelback the curtain on the art of
effective storytelling.
Now on to the episode.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Hi everyone, welcome back to another Cinematography
for Actors podcast episode.
Here at Mammoth Film Festival,I am joined by a wonderful and
large-filled couch of talentedartists that are coming together
to do a quick interview with usfor the fall.
Is this the North Americanpremiere of the fall?
It is World premiere right,world premiere, yeah, and we're
on the couch here talking aboutit.
(01:27):
Okay, so let me introduceeverybody here while we have
them.
So Sean Hart is our directorand writer, michael Schilf,
producer.
We have Jeremy Sumter, one ofthe actors, cassie Scarbo Scarbo
, yes, thank you.
Matt Fahey and Thomas Cockerellgreat, awesome, well welcome
everyone, I'm so happy to haveyou here.
(01:48):
Thank you for joining us today.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Thank, you for having us.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Thank you let's dive into the fall.
We have 10 minutes, so the fall.
Can I get from sean a one-linerabout the fall for everybody
who's listening?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
yeah, I'll save him here.
The Okay the Fall is about anaspiring photographer who is
reeling after her mother'ssuicide and she's trying to
rectify her self-destruction.
But she can only do that andfind redemption if she accepts
her past.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Fantastic.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
My one letter would be it's a twisted, emotionally
driven love triangle.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
There we go Kind of like a love square.
It's not a break table, yeahthere you go there it is
Fantastic.
So we always love atCinematography for Actors
talking about collaboration andhow teams come together, and so
how did this kind of team formhave you two worked together
before, and then the cast kindof came apart of it.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Yeah, I got lucky.
I was asked to dp uh shootmichael schultz first uh short
film for their company that theyformed together, lunar door,
and it was amazing.
It was one of the smoothestshort films I've ever been a
part of.
Everything was like buttoned up, well rehearsed, nothing.
(03:05):
Danny trey was in it.
We shot multiple locations inlike two days and it was
fantastic.
We won so many awards.
It's, it's ridiculous.
Um, and that was, I think, 2020it was uh september 2019 2019
and then later, after the umcovid pandemic and all this
(03:26):
stuff.
I had the script and Iapproached Chase and Natalie and
they gave you know to read, andMichael Schilf, being a very
seasoned writer as well as aproducer, gave me his best
finest red ink his best finestred ink, and we really worked on
(03:50):
it.
It was a.
It was a very raw and emotionalscript, something that I wrote
um after reeling from losing the, the two people, um in the film
, the, the characters, but isbased on, like my real
grandparents and uh yeah, it wasa dream, you know and um, they
have, fortunately, chase andother people.
(04:11):
I love these little emotionshave so many talented actor
friends like Cassie and Thomasand Jeremy, that they've been
friends with for all these years, and so it was a little bit
unconventional where we just wehad a casting director but, most
importantly, we just had reallygood producers who had really
great relationships and so theybrought me this kind of dream
team of cast and, uh, I was.
(04:33):
It was just an honor, becausethis is not my first feature
film although it's my firstfeature film because this is the
first one that actually hadsupport and producers and a
budget and it was just, it was adream come true.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
We have some exciting news.
Cfa has teamed up with we MakeMovies to get you a discount on
production management services,including access to
comprehensive productioninsurance and workers comp.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
For your next shoot, we spent three and a half weeks
in this little beach town,making a movie in the real
locations with actors who wereembodying, like, the very
(05:25):
essence of these real peoplethat I based the story on, and
they just brought so much truthand life to it and we all became
a family up there yeah,straight up now let's let's dive
into that a bit.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
So so, for the wonderful cast that have joined
us, what was it like as actors,knowing it's based off of
someone close to your director,your writer and director?
What is that process like?
Coming on board hearing aboutit and then also checking in
kind of constantly with yourselfand the director on set during
(05:55):
production.
Like what is that process like?
It's?
Speaker 9 (05:57):
a huge responsibility .
I was going to say on that.
You know, you know that it's apersonal story to Sean, but it
wasn't until I really got to setthat I got to meet him and the
responsibility really kicks in.
We're shooting in these reallocations that he grew up in.
He knows that beach, he knowsthat town.
His family were also on sethelping.
(06:19):
I mean, it was a very personalproject for him and so, as an
actor coming on, you realize howimportant that is and how
respectful you need to be tobring someone's work of art, but
also true life story based ontrue life story, to life.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Wow, and what is it like to have?
We're talking about, you know,these triangles and these
squares of like the dynamicsbetween characters.
How is that built on set?
Is that something that you'rekind of exploring during prep or
is it something that'shappening in almost like an
improvisational way?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
The good thing about this movie is like what you know
Sean was saying.
Is that me?
Cass, matt?
You know I met Tom.
When we did did the tablereading the first day, I met tom
, it was like boom.
We were like so far like webecame.
You thought we'd known eachother for life right, brothers
for life and um, but the, butlike the, the crew, a lot of the
crew, a lot of the producers, alot of the and a lot of the
talent.
(07:11):
We all knew we've all knowneach other for like at least 10
to 15 years.
I mean, I've known cassie for17 years.
She plays my fiance and shouldask her to marry me in real life
a long time ago.
But, um, but no she.
But it just really helped.
It's like we already were.
We were all well acquaintedwith each other and the thing is
, the story isn't involved.
It's like there's a lot ofhistory between some of the
characters and these people youknow in this small town, and so
(07:33):
having that background alreadyjust really helped us to move
forward really quickly and justtap right into it right away.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Amazing and, michael, you seem to always pick stories
, because we were talkingyesterday about Tracing the
Divide and you're here withthree films that have this heart
and the soul and, without evenyou know talking too much yet
about it.
It feels like that is alreadysomething that is a huge part of
the fall.
What is it like for you, as aproducer, choosing stories that
are always integral to humanityas a whole?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
It's actually pretty easy.
When we built our company, itwas important that we had
foundational pillars, and thereason why it's called Lunar
Door is, when you look at thelogo, you see a little man on a
lunar surface and a door Chase,and I, we're the little man.
The door is the decision tomake the project.
(08:23):
For us to step through thatthreshold, it's going to take a
lot of time, a lot of sweatequity, a lot of work, and we're
not going to step through thatthreshold unless we believe that
that story is worth putting onthat little blue marble out in
space.
And it's the only thing we haveputting on that little blue
(08:45):
marble out in space, and it'sthe only thing we have.
That's it.
So we only want to producestories that we believe are a
gift to to earth, to to thepeople, and if we believe that,
uh, it can change lives, then,um, we're going to put the work
in to do it.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Fantastic.
I love that.
I think it's so wonderfulbecause you know all of the
stories that you know you'rechoosing to bring into the to
your company and then alsotalking about the personal story
you're talking about like the,you know let's put it on the
blue marble, let's put it onearth and as a whole, and how
individual stories can relate tous as a whole.
And I think that's so wonderful, especially when you can see
that you've had thatcollaboration for years and you
(09:18):
work together.
I'm sure it comes through onthe film, yeah no, I just wanted
to say a quick little.
Speaker 8 (09:22):
It was a very obviously it is a personal story
and that's what makes it sospecial.
But I think what also madefilming just such an incredible
experience was there was justsuch a safety and comfort
because we all know each other,we have great chemistry already
as friends, and even the peoplethat we had just came on to meet
.
We just all clicked instantly.
You know the people that we hadjust came on to meet.
(09:43):
We just all clicked instantlyand I'm just so grateful to have
had a director and producersthat made it so safe and
comfortable to play, to bevulnerable, especially when it's
something that's so close tohome.
You made me emotional, like Icry for everything, but it's,
you know, someone's real lifestory.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
So that made it that much more special.
Yeah, and vulnerability is justsuch a key part of the process,
I think.
So that's so wonderful, butit's like a safe space that
we're creating to build thatworld.
And now I know we have to wrapthings up, but, um, what are you
hoping?
I know this is the worldpremiere, so congratulations
once again.
What are you hoping?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
the audience's biggest takeaway I know this
that when people are going totake away from this movie is
there's going to be a lot oftears, because the thing is this
it's real life.
It's about's about love, andlove lost, love found and like
loss of family.
It's everything that's reallife that we go through, that
we're unprepared for and that itwill make you think about how
(10:31):
to prepare for it, which issomething you can't really
prepare for, and this moviereally shows that.
Speaker 9 (10:37):
It's a story about healing and about what you need
to do to heal, and that'saccepting your past and
accepting where you've come fromto be able to move forward into
whatever part of life you wantto move into.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Incredible.
I feel like my word this yearand I've said this from January.
My word this year I'm focusingon it's like surrendering more
into things.
Speaker 9 (10:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
And so I I feel like this film is probably perfect
for anyone who is looking to toheal or to surrender like
connect, really huge.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Shout out to also jocelyn.
I mean, yeah, my god, shebooked something huge, so if she
can't be here we aren't allowedto talk about her.
Maybe we are, I don't know, butshe's so brilliant in the film
and her chemistry with thomas isamazing.
Her chemistry with jeremy isphenomenal.
They bring in that like historyof this toxic relationship and
jeremy, you know hisrelationship with Cassie, so it
is very much a love square.
(11:28):
Yeah, there's four sides to itbut then the family dynamic, um,
is, I think, what makes it alittle different, because it's
not just a love story.
It's really like, uh, an adultcoming of age story.
It's about a girl you know wholost me.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah well, thank you all so much for joining me here
on the couch for like 10 minutesin the cold.
Um, I am I'm very excited foreveryone to see the fall.
Um, including myself and ourwhole team.
So thank you so much for takingthe time and we'll see you
thank you.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Thank you for having us.
Thanks, guys, thanks a lotthank you.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
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When we built our company, it was important that
we had foundational pillars, andthe reason why it's called
Lunar Door is when you look atthe logo, you see a little man
on a lunar surface and a doorChase and I we're the little man
.
The door is the decision tomake the project.
For us to step through thatthreshold it's going to take a
(00:20):
lot of time, a lot of sweatequity, and if we believe that
it can change lives, then we'regoing to put the work in to do
it.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
This is the Cinematography for Actors
podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
More than a podcast.
Cinematography for Actors is avibrant community devoted to
bridging the gap between talentand crew.
Each week, our show offerstransparent, insightful
conversations with industryleaders.
We unveil the magic behind thescenes, from candid discussions
about unique filmmakingprocesses to in-depth technical
exploration.
Join us in unraveling theintricacies of filmmaking, one
(00:55):
episode at a time.
It's more than just cameras andlenses we aim to inspire,
educate and empower as we peelback the curtain on the art of
effective storytelling.
Now on to the episode.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Hi everyone, welcome back to another Cinematography
for Actors podcast episode.
Here at Mammoth Film Festival,I am joined by a wonderful and
large-filled couch of talentedartists that are coming together
to do a quick interview with usfor the fall.
Is this the North Americanpremiere of the fall?
It is World premiere right,world premiere, yeah, and we're
on the couch here talking aboutit.
(01:27):
Okay, so let me introduceeverybody here while we have
them.
So Sean Hart is our directorand writer, michael Schilf,
producer.
We have Jeremy Sumter, one ofthe actors, cassie Scarbo Scarbo
, yes, thank you.
Matt Fahey and Thomas Cockerellgreat, awesome, well welcome
everyone, I'm so happy to haveyou here.
(01:48):
Thank you for joining us today.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Thank, you for having us.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Thank you let's dive into the fall.
We have 10 minutes, so the fall.
Can I get from sean a one-linerabout the fall for everybody
who's listening?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
yeah, I'll save him here.
The Okay the Fall is about anaspiring photographer who is
reeling after her mother'ssuicide and she's trying to
rectify her self-destruction.
But she can only do that andfind redemption if she accepts
her past.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Fantastic.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
My one letter would be it's a twisted, emotionally
driven love triangle.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
There we go Kind of like a love square.
It's not a break table, yeahthere you go there it is
Fantastic.
So we always love atCinematography for Actors
talking about collaboration andhow teams come together, and so
how did this kind of team formhave you two worked together
before, and then the cast kindof came apart of it.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Yeah, I got lucky.
I was asked to dp uh shootmichael schultz first uh short
film for their company that theyformed together, lunar door,
and it was amazing.
It was one of the smoothestshort films I've ever been a
part of.
Everything was like buttoned up, well rehearsed, nothing.
(03:05):
Danny trey was in it.
We shot multiple locations inlike two days and it was
fantastic.
We won so many awards.
It's, it's ridiculous.
Um, and that was, I think, 2020it was uh september 2019 2019
and then later, after the umcovid pandemic and all this
(03:26):
stuff.
I had the script and Iapproached Chase and Natalie and
they gave you know to read, andMichael Schilf, being a very
seasoned writer as well as aproducer, gave me his best
finest red ink his best finestred ink, and we really worked on
(03:50):
it.
It was a.
It was a very raw and emotionalscript, something that I wrote
um after reeling from losing the, the two people, um in the film
, the, the characters, but isbased on, like my real
grandparents and uh yeah, it wasa dream, you know and um, they
have, fortunately, chase andother people.
(04:11):
I love these little emotionshave so many talented actor
friends like Cassie and Thomasand Jeremy, that they've been
friends with for all these years, and so it was a little bit
unconventional where we just wehad a casting director but, most
importantly, we just had reallygood producers who had really
great relationships and so theybrought me this kind of dream
team of cast and, uh, I was.
(04:33):
It was just an honor, becausethis is not my first feature
film although it's my firstfeature film because this is the
first one that actually hadsupport and producers and a
budget and it was just, it was adream come true.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
We have some exciting news.
Cfa has teamed up with we MakeMovies to get you a discount on
production management services,including access to
comprehensive productioninsurance and workers comp.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
For your next shoot, we spent three and a half weeks
in this little beach town,making a movie in the real
locations with actors who wereembodying, like, the very
(05:25):
essence of these real peoplethat I based the story on, and
they just brought so much truthand life to it and we all became
a family up there yeah,straight up now let's let's dive
into that a bit.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
So so, for the wonderful cast that have joined
us, what was it like as actors,knowing it's based off of
someone close to your director,your writer and director?
What is that process like?
Coming on board hearing aboutit and then also checking in
kind of constantly with yourselfand the director on set during
(05:55):
production.
Like what is that process like?
It's?
Speaker 9 (05:57):
a huge responsibility .
I was going to say on that.
You know, you know that it's apersonal story to Sean, but it
wasn't until I really got to setthat I got to meet him and the
responsibility really kicks in.
We're shooting in these reallocations that he grew up in.
He knows that beach, he knowsthat town.
His family were also on sethelping.
(06:19):
I mean, it was a very personalproject for him and so, as an
actor coming on, you realize howimportant that is and how
respectful you need to be tobring someone's work of art, but
also true life story based ontrue life story, to life.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Wow, and what is it like to have?
We're talking about, you know,these triangles and these
squares of like the dynamicsbetween characters.
How is that built on set?
Is that something that you'rekind of exploring during prep or
is it something that'shappening in almost like an
improvisational way?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
The good thing about this movie is like what you know
Sean was saying.
Is that me?
Cass, matt?
You know I met Tom.
When we did did the tablereading the first day, I met tom
, it was like boom.
We were like so far like webecame.
You thought we'd known eachother for life right, brothers
for life and um, but the, butlike the, the crew, a lot of the
crew, a lot of the producers, alot of the and a lot of the
talent.
(07:11):
We all knew we've all knowneach other for like at least 10
to 15 years.
I mean, I've known cassie for17 years.
She plays my fiance and shouldask her to marry me in real life
a long time ago.
But, um, but no she.
But it just really helped.
It's like we already were.
We were all well acquaintedwith each other and the thing is
, the story isn't involved.
It's like there's a lot ofhistory between some of the
characters and these people youknow in this small town, and so
(07:33):
having that background alreadyjust really helped us to move
forward really quickly and justtap right into it right away.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Amazing and, michael, you seem to always pick stories
, because we were talkingyesterday about Tracing the
Divide and you're here withthree films that have this heart
and the soul and, without evenyou know talking too much yet
about it.
It feels like that is alreadysomething that is a huge part of
the fall.
What is it like for you, as aproducer, choosing stories that
are always integral to humanityas a whole?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
It's actually pretty easy.
When we built our company, itwas important that we had
foundational pillars, and thereason why it's called Lunar
Door is, when you look at thelogo, you see a little man on a
lunar surface and a door Chase,and I, we're the little man.
The door is the decision tomake the project.
(08:23):
For us to step through thatthreshold, it's going to take a
lot of time, a lot of sweatequity, a lot of work, and we're
not going to step through thatthreshold unless we believe that
that story is worth putting onthat little blue marble out in
space.
And it's the only thing we haveputting on that little blue
(08:45):
marble out in space, and it'sthe only thing we have.
That's it.
So we only want to producestories that we believe are a
gift to to earth, to to thepeople, and if we believe that,
uh, it can change lives, then,um, we're going to put the work
in to do it.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Fantastic.
I love that.
I think it's so wonderfulbecause you know all of the
stories that you know you'rechoosing to bring into the to
your company and then alsotalking about the personal story
you're talking about like the,you know let's put it on the
blue marble, let's put it onearth and as a whole, and how
individual stories can relate tous as a whole.
And I think that's so wonderful, especially when you can see
that you've had thatcollaboration for years and you
(09:18):
work together.
I'm sure it comes through onthe film, yeah no, I just wanted
to say a quick little.
Speaker 8 (09:22):
It was a very obviously it is a personal story
and that's what makes it sospecial.
But I think what also madefilming just such an incredible
experience was there was justsuch a safety and comfort
because we all know each other,we have great chemistry already
as friends, and even the peoplethat we had just came on to meet
.
We just all clicked instantly.
You know the people that we hadjust came on to meet.
(09:43):
We just all clicked instantlyand I'm just so grateful to have
had a director and producersthat made it so safe and
comfortable to play, to bevulnerable, especially when it's
something that's so close tohome.
You made me emotional, like Icry for everything, but it's,
you know, someone's real lifestory.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
So that made it that much more special.
Yeah, and vulnerability is justsuch a key part of the process,
I think.
So that's so wonderful, butit's like a safe space that
we're creating to build thatworld.
And now I know we have to wrapthings up, but, um, what are you
hoping?
I know this is the worldpremiere, so congratulations
once again.
What are you hoping?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
the audience's biggest takeaway I know this
that when people are going totake away from this movie is
there's going to be a lot oftears, because the thing is this
it's real life.
It's about's about love, andlove lost, love found and like
loss of family.
It's everything that's reallife that we go through, that
we're unprepared for and that itwill make you think about how
(10:31):
to prepare for it, which issomething you can't really
prepare for, and this moviereally shows that.
Speaker 9 (10:37):
It's a story about healing and about what you need
to do to heal, and that'saccepting your past and
accepting where you've come fromto be able to move forward into
whatever part of life you wantto move into.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Incredible.
I feel like my word this yearand I've said this from January.
My word this year I'm focusingon it's like surrendering more
into things.
Speaker 9 (10:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
And so I I feel like this film is probably perfect
for anyone who is looking to toheal or to surrender like
connect, really huge.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Shout out to also jocelyn.
I mean, yeah, my god, shebooked something huge, so if she
can't be here we aren't allowedto talk about her.
Maybe we are, I don't know, butshe's so brilliant in the film
and her chemistry with thomas isamazing.
Her chemistry with jeremy isphenomenal.
They bring in that like historyof this toxic relationship and
jeremy, you know hisrelationship with Cassie, so it
is very much a love square.
(11:28):
Yeah, there's four sides to itbut then the family dynamic, um,
is, I think, what makes it alittle different, because it's
not just a love story.
It's really like, uh, an adultcoming of age story.
It's about a girl you know wholost me.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah well, thank you all so much for joining me here
on the couch for like 10 minutesin the cold.
Um, I am I'm very excited foreveryone to see the fall.
Um, including myself and ourwhole team.
So thank you so much for takingthe time and we'll see you
thank you.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Thank you for having us.
Thanks, guys, thanks a lotthank you.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
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