In this episode of the Microsoft 365 Dev Podcast, Julie and Andrew dive into the results of the 2025 State of JavaScript survey, sharing their take on the trends, tools, and libraries shaping the JavaScript ecosystem. They discuss why the survey is so valuable for developers, from discovering new language features to tracking the rise and fall of popular libraries. The conversation covers the dominance of Vite as the most loved library, React's continued strong usage despite growing pain points, the steady decline of Webpack sentiment, and the emergence of tools like Rolldown (a Rust-based bundler from the Vite team) and Hono (a backend framework with sky-high satisfaction ratings).
Beyond libraries, Julie and Andrew explore front-end framework trends, noting that the era of constantly jumping between frameworks seems to be over, with the average developer using just 2.6 frameworks across their career. They also touch on testing tools (including Vitest's rapid rise alongside Jest's declining satisfaction), the state of AI coding tools in the survey results, mono repo tooling, and some interesting community picks like Observable Framework for building dashboards. Whether you're a seasoned JavaScript developer or working in the Microsoft 365 ecosystem, this episode offers a great pulse check on where the industry is heading.
🔗 LINKS
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🔗 State of JavaScript Survey 2025 Results
🔗 Vite
🔗 Vitest
🔗 Rolldown
🔗 Hono
🔗 Observable Framework
Andrew's Picks:
🔗 Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on employment or productivity—and it has economists resurrecting a paradox from 40 years ago
🔗 This CTO Says 93% of Developers Use AI, but Productivity Is Still 10%
Julie's Pick:
🔗 Camellia Beans
🎙️ PODCAST
🔗 https://codedeploygo.live, LinkedIn, Bluesky
🎙️ HOSTS
Julie Turner
Andrew Connell: LinkedIn, YouTube, Bluesky, Newsletter
SPONSORS
Sympraxis (by Julie Turner) 🔗 Website 🔗 Ask Sympraxis 🔗 YouTube
Voitanos (by Andrew Connell) 🔗 Website 🔗 LinkedIn 🔗 Bluesky
Music Credit: Ken Bagley
- (00:00) - Introduction
- (05:01) - State of JavaScript 2025 Survey
- (01:09:21) - AC's & Julie's Picks
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