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March 26, 2023 • 29 mins

Are you feeling as though you are not making any progress in life? Are you finding it hard to make headway in your passion no matter how hard you try? On the first episode of the Coffee Chat podcast, Amber and Lisa discuss those moments and the emotions they had to go through to find a purpose even when feeling stuck. Thank you for liking, subscribing, sharing, and leaving comments. Keep an eye out for a new episode each week. Visit leadingladies.life for more information.

Thank you for taking the time to like, subscribe, share, and comment. Visit leadingladies.life to find out more. Also, follow @leadingladieslife on social. Amber & Lisa are authors of the multi-award-winning book, Leading Ladies: Discover Your God-Grown Strategy for Success, which dives into the power of community and empowering women of faith to rise up and make a difference, using our gifts and faith to shine brightly in the world. Watch the Facebook Live edition on our YouTube Channel @coffeechatladies .

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Would you be surprised to know that some of the most
successful women of our timeface challenges just like you
and I do. Hi, I'm Amber. And I'mLisa. We're authors of the book
leading ladies, discover yourgod brown strategy for success.
We invite you to join us in anhonest, messy bun conversation

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about the things we'd ratherkeep hidden in our lives.
Some of those things can keep usfrom moving forward in purpose.
So graba cup of something delicious,
kick off your shoes and hang outwith us for the next 30 minutes.
We're so excited to welcome youto our podcast today. And we are

(00:56):
saying Happy Saturday to youright, at least for us
today. It's been an excitingweek, hasn't it? Lisa
has it's been a really excitingweek. We got so much to tell you
about here this morning. Maybesome of you have noticed. But
there's a little video playingon our social media both for

(01:17):
leading ladies dot life and forour personal pages. Right now,
big announcement the website isup the website. Yeah, and it's
absolutely beautiful. Amber, youknow,
there's there's there's stuffthere stairs, how
to have to be hot. Did thewebsite she's very gifted. It's

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not her favorite thing to do.
But she did it. It's beautiful.
There might be a few kinks thatwe still have to work out. But
that's okay. We're fixing themis going to be fine. Second
thing is the song we've beentelling you about for the past
several weeks is now available.
The song is called lead me on byMikayla Weaver, you have to get
it. It's especially meaningful.

(02:06):
It's a great song for all kindsof settings. We'll talk more
about that later. So how do youhelp us out with this endeavor
right now, we want you to go toleading ladies dot life. We want
you to scroll and as you scroll,or when you first turn on the
page, a pop up will come up thatwe'll talk about becoming a

(02:26):
leading ladies VIP. Just go intothe little drop down boxes, put
your name, your address, youremail, it's not hard. We promise
we're not going to give our listto anybody. You're not going to
get spam. But when you do that,and you get it entered
correctly. I know a couplepeople have messaged me saying
they're having problems. Justtry again. When you get it enter

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correctly, we will send you awelcome email with the link to
Mikayla song. That's how you getthe song. And then how can you
help us even further share thatlittle video that you see
floating around on social mediamedia. It's on my page. It's on
Amber's pages on the leadinglady's dot life page. You'll see
me up in the corner talking in alittle video. You'll see a

(03:11):
picture of Mikayla and thesingle. Share that and hopefully
we can get others to jump onboard with us. Yeah, get get the
song as well. Yeah, morning,Amber.
I am doing well. I took mymorning walk with my hubby. We
had some nice raining timearound walking around the pond

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this morning. But I'm reallyexcited about the single as
well. In fact, I started sendingit out before it even was
officially produced. Lisa sentme a rough cut. And it really
impacted me. And I listened toit over and over and wept many

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times I sent it to as manyfriends who was like, I want
that song. Because I believethat it can really help me one
of the ladies who is in thebook, she has anxiety on
airplanes, she says I just wantto play this on loop when I get
on an airplane. And that is suchan exciting, I think position to

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be in that we can give this toyou. Because of Mikayla because
of what she has given us in ourhands. And I just really am so
excited about you just hearingthe song. And there is a 32nd
clip up on the website homepage.
But 30 seconds doesn't really doit justice is not enough. It's

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not enough. It's not enough.
It's a prayer set to music and Ibelieve it will bless many
people and so we were so excitedto give that to you.
And by the way, thank youMikayla and Caleb Weaver. We
love you The keepers kogo likethere were who
did the mastering Oh Okay, let'ssee all of them. Thank you to

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all of you guys keep Risko. Weappreciate that. And
it make it look easy, but it'sprobably not.
No. And there were lots oflittle babies running around and
lots of crying. And they did itall in the midst of that. Amen.
Right. Cool. I just got amessage from a friend that said,

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I just had a mom, a friend ofmine sign up and download the
song and she loves it. Yay. Wehave a talk this morning. For
the past year, we've worked withthese amazing women, and they've
given us a lot to chew oninfluence is something for all
of us utilizing our gifts.
Talking about purpose,especially for us women, as we

(05:43):
go through seasons, we putthings on the back shelf, or we
think someday when your Sundayis right now, right where Yeah,
exactly. So today, we are soexcited to talk to you about
going absolutely nowhere. And Ithink we've all been in that
spot, haven't you Amber whereyou just feel like you are going
in where I like to call it beingin the season of stuck. I'm

(06:05):
stuck here. I don't know whatthe next step is. For some
people, the reason why you'restuck is a very difficult thing
right now. Or others it's amatter of maybe you're
procrastinating. Maybe you justare afraid. We're gonna talk
about some of that today. Amber,what would you like to jump in?

(06:27):
I know that I felt in a profoundseason of stuckness or frozen in
my tracks. I guess when my jobof 16 years as the editor of
youth magazine came to a closeYes, I was very, very sick. God
gave me a year to rest after mymental health break. But he

(06:52):
didn't inform me that the end ofmy mental health break would
culminate into going intofundraising. Now, I helped a lot
of ministry organizations inthat time, I gained a whole new
perspective. I loved all theministries I was working with.

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But it didn't really line upwith what I felt God had put on
my heart, my purpose, my degree,my passion. And I found myself
saying, why don't you give methis promotion if I can't even
operate in it. And it was such achallenging period. And that's

(07:37):
when I said, God, give mesomething. I'll even do what I
do if I have to do it for free?
Well, those are scary words.
But it really does sometimestake a big sacrifice, exactly.
To reconnect with your passion.
And my passion was to encourageand support women as they

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fulfill their purpose. I thoughtit was teenagers. And I realized
that really, I had pin downChristian women. And it took me
reconnecting actually, even withmy high school yearbook to find,
what did I really love? What wasI really connecting with. And of
course, leading hearts came backwasn't necessarily a paycheck

(08:20):
that I could live on at thetime. And being obedient to that
time ended up releasing a lot ofpotential and possibility. It's
actually brought me to thismoment that I didn't even know
was on the radar, right didn'teven know, Lisa, you've probably
have had moments like that.

(08:41):
Absolutely. I can go back andcount many moments. One in
particular, I remember when, asa wife and a mother and a mother
who chose to have severalchildren and kind of spread them
out a bit. There are momentswhere you get the impression as
a mom, when you're taking careof your children, and they're

(09:01):
young and you're running andgunning, you start to get really
lost and you start to feel likeyour only purpose is to run and
gun and take care of thosechildren. And for that season.
Yes, there are seasons where thebest purpose the most important
purpose you have as a mom inthat moment, is to just care

(09:23):
about that little life. But thenyou come to a point a little bit
further down the road where youstart to learn to multitask and
you start to recognize if Idon't do something other than
clean up diapers turning aroundand maybe making sure the toys
are picked up wiping handprintsoff the wall if I don't find a
conversation with an adult tohave soon, right, I'm gonna lose

(09:46):
my mind. And you kind of get tothat point where you start to
have the itch to move forwardand do something a little bit
more than just momming at themoment and I know not everybody
has this same type of scenariobut for me, I thought, Okay,
God, I can't just sit here on ashelf. I know, there's still

(10:07):
things that I could do to getthe interaction that what can I
do. And I had the idea to starta moms group, it was called Moms
of preschoolers. And I know thatthere are other organizations
out there that do this, I canthink of mops. We called it moms
on a mission, I think, orsomething like that. And I
started this little group sothat I could walk in, be around

(10:30):
other women, have conversationwith them, listen to some great
teaching, sometimes, maybe evendo a little cooking, have
somebody come show us how tocook a new meal, all with child
care happening so that I canhave that interaction and
organizing that group. At thetime, I didn't realize it. It
was meeting a need for me, butit was meeting a need for a

(10:51):
whole lot of women. And if Ihadn't just gone ahead and use
the influence I had instead justsaid, oh, yeah, but nobody will
come. Yeah, who's going to wantto go to a group like that,
like, nobody's going to take thetime? I mean, what kind of
speakers can I get? Or what kindof activities could I plan that
people would really want to do?
If I hadn't done that the groupwouldn't have taken off. Even
after I no longer had apreschool aged child, that group

(11:14):
continued to meet together. Wow.
So I look back at that and say,That was a season a time in my
life where out of necessity formy sanity, as well as to help
other moms. I was able to takethis, I was stuck. And I knew
something had to happen. Iwasn't sure what okay, God

(11:34):
helped me find what can I doright now, right now, where I'm
at in the season.
And you said something that wasreally interesting that
something that met a need, andyou also met a need in someone
else. And I think that that'skind of somewhere where we find
purpose, a need that's insideourselves that also serves

(11:56):
others. Exactly. Not necessarilyinsular. I know, you had
mentioned the Facebook group,even that it doesn't really take
off. Butthat was about a year and a half
ago, I felt like I was supposedto start a Facebook page or
group just to encourage womenwives, mostly, the whole concept
of the group was to give wiveswho are supposed to, you know,

(12:20):
we as spouses, we are support toour husbands to our significant
others to our partners. And Ifelt like it was a way to help
other women who felt like I did,like, okay, sometimes I don't
feel like supporting sometimes Idon't feel like I can be a
support because I'm empty. And Ithought I could be an

(12:40):
encouragement, I can be anencouragement right now the
crazy part was that I startedthis page, it looked lovely, I
started to put together pins, somany sweet friends joined, some
of you who hear this episode mayeven have joined. And I got a
little conversation going, butreally not very much. And I
thought what is happening? I'mtrying to do what I feel like

(13:03):
I'm supposed to do, and ain'tnobody catching what I'm
throwing, what do we do? And youknow what? Now I look at what's
happening right now on thisplatform with this book. And
it's so much broader than justfor wives or just for moms. It's
for women from all differentspaces and liquids happening.

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Now. I feel like thatpreparation for this that was
vision hearing from the one whoultimately gives us the passion
to begin with, and putting itinto action trying to put feet
on it.
Well, you know what, at thebeginning of this project, it
kind of fell on my heart thatGod put this question in my

(13:47):
heart, what do you see insideyourself that I've put there
that makes you a leader? And Irealized that question just
wasn't for me, it was for manypeople. And as we've walked
through these chapters, and hadpeople personally, right, I felt
myself profoundly moved bysomething I was supposed to do.

(14:09):
And I don't think Lisa or I willever be the same. After moving
through some of these stories. Iknow that the one of the first
stories I received back was fromTracy Hester, a dear dear friend
and author. And it reallyreleased me to talk about things

(14:31):
that I hadn't been talking aboutbefore because I felt shame
about him. Right. And it reallyencouraged me to be vulnerable
because it's in ourvulnerability and it's in our
shame that God can really shine.
So I know that in telling mystory, and Tracy telling her
story, and all the ladies andLisa telling her story that God

(14:52):
doesn't just provide the healingfor others. He provides the
healing for us when we justoperate. I I can see some things
moving up to this moment, Iwould have never imagined a year
and a half ago, even doing abook, right, Lisa, not even, it
wasn't on the radar, and it justdropped in her lap out of

(15:12):
nowhere. But I also can see howthings connect. Like Lisa, you
said with the Facebook page,things connected, that you did
not realize at the time that wasactually going to be a service
to you or give you the knowledgeto do something like this. So
it's little building blocks allthe time for Steve stuckness

(15:34):
might just be preparation forwhat's coming next. I like also
a time to take in and enjoy andAbele
care received stuckness mightjust be a time of preparation to
take in what's happening aroundyou. I like that because

(15:57):
sometimes we look at beingstuck. Maybe this is this is
something that's maybe I'mtelling on myself, sometimes I
get stuck. And I know you and Iboth talked about this. And we
kind of procrastinate when we'restuck. And we can do that for
different reasons. Like I willprocrastinate when sometimes the
task seems so large or when thetask seems like it's going to be

(16:21):
a hard one heart wise to dealwith. I will procrastinate and
not just get on with it. That isalso a form of being stuck
procrastination. How do you dealwith that? Well,
I'm gonna tell you a big secret.
I tell you tell the secret tellit
when I'm doing a magazine. Thevery last thing I do is write my

(16:49):
own article I noticed to be trueRasta Nate, I know that Oh,
much. And I'm a writer, awriter. Why do I stay stuck in
my head so long that I can'teven put down what I need to put
down until everything's at theend of it. I'm like, Oh, I'm
just gonna put that off. I'mgonna put that off. I'm gonna

(17:10):
put that off. Because I controlthe deadlines.
Cuz you were the editor. lastmoment is the squeaky thing.
Yes, well, I want to kind oftalk about what can we do when
we find ourselves stuck? Whatare some simple tasks to help us

(17:30):
get unstuck? And like I said,we're going to talk about being
stuck on a much deeper level ina following episode. But we
wanted to start the topic today,we recognize that there can be
some pretty profound reasons forwhy we're stuck. And some of
those things are really the hardthings in life, and how do you

(17:55):
take that step to move forward?
Today, we're being a littlelight hearted about it. But in
all honesty, I feel like some ofthe things that we can do to get
unstuck are similar. One of thefirst things is maybe evaluate
where you are right now and takea deep look. Is there someone or
something that is benefitingfrom you staying stuck? Yes. Is

(18:17):
there some situation or someperson that benefits from you
staying stuck? And so you juststay there. That's one thing.
Another thing might bepotentially, you need to put
yourself in a circle or inalignment, find your people,
find your crew, people who willspeak and call you into taking

(18:39):
those steps, and walking in allthe goodness that you are, if
you don't have your people, findyour people. And the other thing
I have to attribute to PastorGeorge Westlake senior who
pastored. We just celebrated his50th year in ministry at our
church last Sunday, PastorWestlake would always use this

(19:02):
concept, act your way in to thefeelings by doing just start
taking little steps. Maybe oneday, it's just writing down on a
piece of paper what it wouldlook like if you weren't stuck
anymore. Just casting the netcasting the vision as far and
wide and wide as you possiblycan dart that forward motion and

(19:25):
movement. You know, Amber, yousaid something as we were
talking and I just kind of wantto give you this so that you can
really share more with them thatyou said something pretty
profound. You said, How did youput it you were talking about if
we don't recognize the impactthat we have on others lives? We
won't ever be moved in ourpurpose.

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That's exactly what I think wehave to I think there's a place
where we get stuck in monotony.
We get stuck in a I'm getting upin the morning, I'm cooking, I'm
getting everybody out the door,I'm working, I'm doing whatever,
and we lose ourself in our to dolist and we fail to see the

(20:13):
connectedness of all we do. Sothere's some awareness that
needs to take place. Andsometimes that the awareness
doesn't happen until youactually step away from the
monotony of a situation saying,Okay, I'm gonna break away from
this time, I'm gonna write somethings down, maybe it's in Your
devotional time, what are thethings I need to connect with?

(20:36):
What are the things God you needme to see today? And just in
general, what are the things youneed to see today? How are you
going to wake up to your impacton the people around you?
I do think that being aware is ahuge part of this. Just being
aware that something else is outthere.

(20:59):
Yeah. Okay. Yesterday, I wentfor a walk. But during that
walk, instead of focusing on thebeauty of looking at the birds
and the flowers, Lisa, I have toadmit, I was editing your little
video that we put out. And Ihonestly did not remember

(21:19):
walking around that pond. And itshows you the power of being on
autopilot, you're trying to geta task done, you're doing it in
a place where you should belooking around paying attention,
just looking at the trees,looking at everything around
you, that can be a place whereyou get to are you acting? Are

(21:39):
you living on autopilot, you'reever going to connect with
purpose unless you connectmy sweet friend Hazel says
sometimes we procrastinate. Soif it's not perceived as
perfect, we do have the perfectexcuse of not enough time. It's
true, I don't have enough time,perfect enough to step out and
do it that is so true. Oh,that reminds me of one of the

(22:03):
things that I did when I waswriting for a long period of
time. And that was part of mymanic phase of writing, I just
wrote, and I did not care aboutmistakes, or what other people
thought I just wrote what was onmy heart mistakes and all and I
posted it, and I think it was alittle bit methodical in that

(22:25):
way is I'm gonna do this. Andit's going to be for me, and I'm
going to be okay with my mistakeshowing me cutting have to if we
move in purpose, we have to bemoving in a way that we're not
going to get stuck. If itdoesn't look just right, or
somebody criticizes us. Or ifour links don't work on our
website properly. At some point,I know that I'm gonna have a

(22:49):
mistake, and I'm gonna have tocorrect something. But you know
what, it's a learningexperience. And if we don't give
ourselves the humanity and graceto move in purpose, when we know
we're gonna make mistakes alongthe way, then you're never gonna
connect and you're never gonnagrow.
Exactly, it kind of comes downto this whole thought process of

(23:11):
if we don't recognize the impactwe have on others lives if we
basically think we don't have animpact, and that what we do
right now just doesn't matter.
If we don't appreciate thosemoments. If we don't
intentionally connect with ourlife and our purpose, we will
stay stuck. And you hadmentioned earlier that it kind

(23:31):
of reminds you of the movieGroundhog Day.
I'm sure a lot of people haveseen that movie, Bill Murray. He
wakes up to the sound of analarm. And he starts his day and
it takes him a few dreams in torealize, wait a minute, I'm
stuck in this dream. Why is hestuck in the dream? Amber,
what's your interpretation?

(23:51):
I believe that he actually wentthrough a process of being self
absorbed, doing whatever hewanted to do. And he even got to
a point where being selfserving, it caused him so much
distress, he committed suicidemultiple times. And it is
interesting that until he walkedinto really connecting with

(24:14):
people, even though he wasliving the same day, over and
over, he dedicated himself tolearning about people enriching
his he learned to play thepiano. He was on a mission to
save lives and rescue people. Itwas a process he went through in
monotony, exact there is meaningand perceived monotony. What can

(24:35):
you be learning in that time ina period of stuckness? He ended
up growing internallyprofoundly.
Yeah, I agree. I think that'spart of it, too. There are no
wasted moments. And you say,Well, Lisa, wait a minute. I've
gone through some moments thatthere's no way God a good God
would ever say these moments areworth gleaning anything from I

(24:57):
believe, even if you can't gleansomething God can redeem. And
you can learn through theredeeming the redemption process
of whatever that was you had toexperience. And that's where
this conversation can kind oftake a deep dive. And I think
what we want to do is take apause, and come back next week

(25:19):
for the deeper aspect of what dowe do when we're stuck because
of loss because of grief becauseof trauma. And so next week may
be a little more serious, but wewanted to get the conversation
started this week, because wefeel like it's a powerful part
of why we as women don't putfeet, on our dreams, on our

(25:41):
passions, on our visions, why wedon't feel like we have
something worth offering. Andso, we do keep a lot of this
light hearted when we're herebecause Amber and I are just
goofballs to begin with to betotally honest. So it's not that
we can't go deep. It's that wejust kind of like to live in the
happy thoughts. So we do want toexpress right now once again,

(26:06):
our gratitude for you joining usthis morning. It's been a great
conversation. Like we said, wehave a lot of cool news from the
week and we want to keep sharingit with you. So we're just gonna
go over all those little tidbitsagain, the website is up leading
ladies dot life, go to thatwebsite, take a look around,

(26:27):
we're gonna have all sorts ofgoodness it's going to be the
hub for all things leading life.
It's also time for you to signup to be a leading ladies VIP.
How are they going to do thatAmber,
they are going to go to leadingladies dot life, there will be a
pop up and it says become aleading ladies VIP. Put your

(26:47):
information in and you'll get anemail back that has the new
release from Makayla Weaver thatshe did for leading ladies. It
is an incredible song. We areblessed. I don't think very many
book projects get to releasemusic. Thank you Mikayla. Again,
forgiving that to us.
When you sign up, you get alittle email back and that link

(27:10):
to the song will be right therefor you. mp3 form.
If you have email on your phone,you can open that up, you can
download it to your phone, youcan have it with you. It's a
prayer that I have on repeat.
It's something that we need toreconnect with over and over.
Because we need it everymorning. We need to know that
we're moving in purpose everymorning. So I'm really excited

(27:32):
to share that with you. We'llhave new things coming on the
site, we'll have giveaways,we'll have merchandise or
church. I keep trying toconvince Lisa that I need to
design a leading lady swimsuitand a sports bra. Do you think
we can do that? See,put in the comments.

(27:53):
Do you think I should do that.
Um, the last thing I want to askyou to do is to please take that
little video that you see on myFacebook Amber's, Facebook,
leading ladies dot life I made alittle video up in the corner
just talking about how to goonline and become a VIP and get
that download. There's bigpicture of Mikayla and the

(28:14):
single if you would just takethat and share it on your social
media or take it and just send anote to your friends saying go
to leading ladies dot life, signup as a VIP member and get this
song if you would do that itwill be a huge blessing to us
and we believe it will be ablessing to you. And on
that note, I just want to saythis really quick, please do not

(28:36):
just forward the email of thedownload because we really do
want to connect with you.
Individually,don't share your download,
please let people get theirshare load price in everyone
signing up individually as aVIP. So we love you guys. We

(28:57):
just pray that you have afantastic week. So for this
week, we just ask that you takea minute and start asking God to
reveal to you the places you arestuck. And maybe even some of
the reasons why you are stuck. Ibelieve he's just so good that
he will give you insight andhelp you along the way. So we

(29:18):
love you. We want you to knowthat we think the world of you
and we can simply not wait tosee you again. All right.
Take care guys. Bye
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