April 17, 2023 • 26 mins
Wouldn't it be great if you could say a prayer today and immediately be given everything you need to accomplish your dreams? What would that look like? Would you feel more energized and excited if you had the opportunity to have such a challenge—or would you be overwhelmed and anxious? In our case, it has been a combination of both. Tune in to this episode of Coffee Chat with Amber & Lisa for some morning laughter and honest conversation.
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Unknown (00:10):
Would you be surprised to know that some of the most
successful women of our timeface challenges just like you
and I do. Hi, I'm Amber.
And I'm Lisa. We're authors ofthe book leading ladies,
discover your god brown strategyfor success.
We invite you to join us in anhonest, messy bun conversation
(00:30):
about the things we'd ratherkeep hidden in our lives.
Some of those things can keep usfrom moving forward in purpose.
So graba cup of something delicious.
Kick off your shoes and hang outwith us for the next 30 minutes.
It is so good to be with youguys. Again, this is a little
(00:51):
bit different. We are having topre record this episode of
Coffee Chat, but we still have Ihave my coffee.
I have mine. I'm actually havingtea. Little disclosure, Lisa has
gone without coffee. It's been.
I know, I know what's wrong withme. But I've done it. So I had a
little tea this morning.
(01:14):
Cinnamon sunset tea, and Ihaven't just changed them out.
I've actually been doing a lotof water.
Well, we're all kind of justgetting that extra water in
especially because the pollensgoing. The temperature is going
up. I love it. When I can getout into the sunshine. You just
feel better. You just feel moreenergized. You feel purpose
(01:36):
focused if you can get out intosome sunshine.
That vitamin D natural vitamin Ddoes something for you. Right
does something for you. Yes.
Well, today we are going to talkabout what if God gives you
exactly what you're asking forwhat you've been planning for.
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Yeah, what a thing. What happenswhen it starts to happen? Okay,
you're not just in preparationmode anymore. You've arrived,
and you have to start to walk init.
And Lisa, you and I've beentalking about this for the whole
time that we've been doing thisproject, cuz initially I know
when it kind of fell in my lapwithout a proposal. And then I
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called up my best girlfriend andshe said, Okay, what does this
mean?
I did. You were saying things Iwas like, Okay, wait a minute, I
need to know what this means.
Exactly. Amber, do you know whatthis mean? And then Emma had to
confess Well, no, but yes,you know, it's so funny. Because
you know, I've always been likethe person who's I want to try,
like everything in my being if Iget an opportunity that I think
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gels with where God might betaking me and I feel good about
it, chump. Andvery quickly, before there's
anything in place to catch you.
But at the same time, have aperson who balances you out to
kind of think through somethings. I know, Lisa, probably
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being in this on this journeywith me has kind of like maybe
loosened you up a little bit asfar as just jumping in things
because we've had a lot ofthings unfolding in the past,
what 24 hours actually.
And it's like I knew they werecoming just because of previous
experience. But I don't thinkyou did. And I think it kind of
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took you a little off guard. Isaw this deer in the headlights
look come over your face for abrief moment. And I was like,
let me kind of lay somegroundwork for you. This is kind
of what it could look like. Yes,or speaking in code right now in
some ways, but part of it isall sudden the press release was
released our beautiful friendJackie Mariska from Mariska
(03:47):
media out of Nashville. And allof a sudden, these two girls
from the Midwest who have theirfirst book out, we're having to
deal with, Oh, my goodness, corkhas been pulled out of the
bottle. And you just don't knowif you should get a shamming or
just let it flow?
(04:09):
Do we wipe it up? Or do we justbask in it? We've had a few
interview requests. And I havehad an honor to work with
another good friend of Amber's,who became my good friend who is
a publicist out of Nashville aswell and I've worked off and on
for her just doing some pitchingfor her and helping to pitch all
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sorts of projects, movies, andmusicians and books and
speakers. And so I kind of knowthe process. I am by no means an
authority and I ask a lot ofquestions when I'm in the midst
of doing something like that.
But when this hit, I knewexactly what to do. Yeah, it was
kind of funny because I know alot of what to do in a lot of
areas. But when it comes to thiswhole book thing, if Amber
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doesn't know it already, then wegotta go to somebody else to
tell us because I'm not usuallythe authority in this area.
And the thing about it is, as wehave talked about before, God
has given this project a divinesetup, because Lisa didn't know
with her experience writinginitially for the magazine for
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leaving hearts, that thiswriting a book would be in the
in the equation,you encourage me when you needed
someone to write, I started withQ and A's, and then I slowly
worked into articles. And therewas also another little gig that
you pitched my way for adenomination that we both are
affiliated with. And I startedconsistently interviewing and
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writing for them a couple oftimes a month. And that was a
small paying gig, but it was washelpful, right. And so in the
process of doing that, I didn'trealize that really what God was
doing was laying a foundationfor this project, I thought,
well, you know, now that I'mlearning this, I thought more of
like, you know, my husband is anamazing mind. And he's a very
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gifted man with what he does, heworks in biblical counseling,
and God uses him and I thought,well, maybe, maybe I can help
him write up a few articles. Sothat seemed to be the expanse of
my brain power in thatdirection. A lot of times
when God gives us something, andwe just don't know quite what to
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do with it, we do get thosemoments where we're deer in the
headlights, we don't know how tomaybe think it through, I might
jump off into the deep end. Butat the same time, I think God
gives us a unique ability torise to the occasion. Exactly.
And Lisa, you said somethingvery interesting in an earlier
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talk, people aren't going to dogyou or cut you down for missing
something or missing the market.
And a lot of times that can keepyou from moving forward is that
perception that you'll getsomething wrong?
I kind of look at it this way weare treading in ground. We've
never tried them before. And Ithink many women experienced
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this when they start to reallydetermine okay, how can I walk
more fully in my purpose? Whatam I equipped to do? And I'm not
saying that these are big, longthought out conversations that
they have with themselves. Butwe have thoughts. What am I
supposed to do next? Is what I'mdoing of worth of matter? Am I
making an impact? God? What ismy purpose for being here right
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now? What is it? Not all of usare going to be CEOs of
companies, not all of us aregoing to publish a book or be
musicians that actually haveradio play. However, what are we
doing in the right now, whetherit's in our home with our loved
ones, or if it's in the school,where we're teaching, working
the grocery store, where we area manager, you know, those
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things that we're doing, we havea lot of things that are going
to be new territory, sometimesas you walk through their
territory, you fear, failure,fear, what if I make a mistake?
What if I do something thatobviously doesn't go so well,
and I mess things up. And it'ssomething that I have had to
learn? And it basically what youwere saying is just what if we
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make a mistake? What if wemissed up on we're not totally
alright, what's going to happenat that point, is all of a
sudden, that becomes a learningexperience. Yeah, we took that
away. And we learned to beprepared for moments like that,
again, I used to do a lot ofwedding coordinating and event
planning. And by the time Ifinished, I'd done it for about
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20 years, by the time I'dfinished doing it, and pretty
much it was no longer somethingon my plate anymore. I remember
saying, you know, almostanything that could possibly go
wrong has gone wrong. And everytime one of those things
happened, it actually gave me abetter game plan for the next
event. Exactly every singletime. And so I feel like even
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though we are having thesemoments, and you know, we told
you guys, we wanted to bring youalong in this journey. Many of
you our dear friends, many ofyou are friends we have yet to
meet, we want to meet we said wewant you to come along. Well, we
decided that discussing thesekinds of moments and kind of
what we're going through inthese moments could be helpful
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to other people stepping intotheir purpose as well.
One thing that is the challengefor me, I go into every project
with the initial thought, whatif I fail, and I just don't want
to live with that thought. Butwhat if you do make a mistake? I
have always been a person islet's try this. And if I don't
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get a right, that I'll have alearning experience. I think
everything I've learned in life,especially as I went in from a
magazine editor with a staff offour or five people into doing
things myself is things aregonna get missed. Yeah. And
honestly, you cannot beatyourself up for things that get
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missed. And I know that we havea tendency, especially as women,
if we think things that we don'tknow, might get missed, there's
a big tendency not to try atall, just don't take the step to
take. Don't do it.
And I think that God wants us tobecome very comfortable with our
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weak spots. That's notnecessarily what you would think
of, oh, the big business womanin the business world. Well, you
know what, as we talked aboutbefore, all of these women that
we have in the book, they havetalked about their weak spots,
they've also talked about howwalking through these places
have built them up stronger.
Now, Nancy Bogart, who is in thebook, who is the CEO of Jordan
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essentials, which is a line ofbeautiful natural products for
the home, and they havebeautiful lotion, bars. They're
in Karen everything. But shetalks about how her whole
business started out of herkitchen, doing these lotion bars
called country bunny. And thereason that she started this
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business is she was a stay athome mom, and she had to make
some money, right, she had tomake something to help support
the family. And she talks aboutthe transitions and how God
brought her through evenchanging the branding of the
product. Because country, Bunnywasn't necessarily equating with
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things that haven't folded. Sohere we go, we're going to not
only take this out of a workingfrom my kitchen node, and start
organizing people with thebackground as a homemaker. But
also we're going to rebrand.
And, of course, I'm sure theybrought in people to help with
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that thought and process. Butinitially, her husband was more
in charge of the company. Andthen he kind of stepped back. He
said, I think you need to takethis exactly. And she talks
about it she talks about atinitially, I didn't think I
could do this. I was aperson, he was the person I
didn't have the business mind,he had the business mind. I was
just making the lotion bars.
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Exactly. And I think that wehave to in some way, when God
gives us what we want, or whatwe're dreaming, even the things
that are beyond what we'redreaming. He's going to 100%
challenge us to rise to theoccasion and become okay, when
we mistake. Exactly.
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I agree with you. And I thinkthat also when rising to the
occasion, being willing to stepout into that next footpath that
next level, you have to be alittle brave. I'm not saying
your fear less. But you have tothink, Okay, what has gone on
behind me, God has seen methrough by faith, I'm going to
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walk through the next door. Thatwas part of what my chapter is
all about just being willing towalk through open doorways, even
if it doesn't always make sense.
Even if you think to yourself,I'm not equipped to do this. I
don't know this, there's no way.
If God has called you to this,if God has called you to
something, all he's reallyasking you to do is start right
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where you're at, and say, Yes,walk into the situation, and
allow him to equip you for thenext level that you walk into.
He's not asking to be equippedright now for something that's
going to happen five years downthe road. But you may find out
along your journey, that littlethings you've picked up along
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the road, you have skills now tobetter do that someday be
willing to step out.
Yeah. And another thing I wantedto add the equation, you have to
kind of be an eager learner tostep into stuff that's bigger
than yourself. Are you ready tolearn? Are you ready to receive
instruction? I know stepping outis amazing. But sometimes I know
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definitely I have not steppedout into something and risen to
the occasion without having tohave a learning curve in that
and being willing to learn andwillingness to learn takes time
invested effort and a whole newlevel of okay, when am I going
to do this? Because that wasdefinitely our experience doing
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this. It was also my experiencewhen I started doing book cover
design. It was kind of ironicthat I went to one of the
publishers I knew who was in thewriters and Speakers
Association. I said, I've beenexperimenting with book covers.
And when I went through mymental health issue, I just felt
like God was pulling backsomething in my eyes that I was
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able to see things differently.
Right. And he gave me theability to start putting those
things down in art form. Withouta graphic design degree, and I
went to the publisher and Isaid, I've been designing some
books can I try? At the time? Itseemed like a pretty bodacious
statement. I'm trying to do someof your author's books, by the
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way.
Let me just give it a whirl. Imean, I know this is only your
business. But when you trust me,you have to kind of ask those
courageous questions. If youfeel like you're supposed to be
walking into and rising to someoccasion, sometimes we don't
even get those opportunitiesunless God's saying, this is the
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direction I'm sending you. Areyou willing to make steps? Are
you gonna rise to the occasion?
Are you going to ask thequestion? Are you going to ask
if you can be involved? How manyof us were excited about being
involved, or our passion is likehelping with the homeless in
some sort of degree or even anyother type of outreach or
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painting or whatever that is?
And we don't even ask thequestion of the people who might
be able to facilitate that. Forus.
It's like, maybe that issomething to even okay. You have
passions, you have interests?
Where do you start? Well, startby finding the people that are
doing what you feel you want tobe a part of, yeah, find them,
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learn from them? And can I justalso put this in there be the
kind of person that's willing toshare? Yes, someone comes to you
and says, I feel like I'msupposed to be doing like what
you're doing, sharinggraciously, not feeling
threatened. That someone if youtell them how you got where you
are, that they're going to comein and take away everything you
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did, there is more than enoughwork to be done in this. In
God's kingdom, we don't have toworry about someone stepping on
her toes. Now with that, pleasebe respectful. Please be
respectful and thoughtful aboutthe work that someone else put
in to get where they are. Andrecognize that you do need to be
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thoughtful about that. But Imean, don't feel threatened,
don't feel put off. Because asquick as I let the words out of
my mouth, go find those peoplethat are doing what you're
doing. Yeah, I thought, wait aminute, you also have to be
willing, if you are that personthey're seeking out to share and
to encourage them every step ofthe way, as they work their way
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into what God has called them todo. One of the best lessons I
learned and keep in mind, I hadbeen doing church ministry and
different community theaterprojects and event planning. I'd
been doing it for a couple ofdecades, and I had an
opportunity to work on a showmore I was going to be moving
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out of town and one of thegreatest takeaways that
revolutionized my mindset,because I've never seen anybody
do this was a leadership thatsaid, Hey, let's talk about how
things went today, what thingswent good, what things could we
improve on? And in theenvironment that was created
when you were the person thatsomehow did the fumble? weren't
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treated as a bad person as aloser? You weren't disciplined?
They didn't say, Okay, you can'tbe in control of this anymore,
because you'll goof it. No,everyone came alongside,
supported, built up helped youmake a game plan so that that
didn't happen again. And Ithought, what if the kingdom of
God was more like this? What thechurch was more like this, it
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just amazed me that somebodywould really want you to grow
and move forward. Be that personfor someone?
Well, I think that there'salways going to be, as I said,
when mistakes are made. We don'tlike to make mistakes. Sometimes
the worst thing to do is to owna mistake, and say, Oh, my
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goodness, there is no way toexplain this away other than I
missed it, right. And I'm gonnahave to be okay with saying,
Hey, guys, I don't know why Imissed this. But I missed it.
Even in the last magazine that Idid for print. After the fact I
was like, Oh, my goodness, Iforgot to put this thing and
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that in. And even in that, Irealized that there was some
things that we needed to put inplace for next time. Exactly.
Because you know, things getmissed. Embrace the typos.
That's one of my favorite meansthat I've written. Embrace the
typos, girls, it's humanenessand if you can walk into what
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God has for you, he's going topeel back your humanity and say,
okay, lady, these are themistakes, not mistakes. This is
the learning curve, right? Don'tgive up because you're seeing
the learning curve. Sometimesyou'll make the same mistake
over and over again. And that'sthe key. So long as we keep
living. You're still on ajourney. a learning curve,
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taking one step, putting them infront of the other, growing,
expanding, recognize that foryourself and recognize that for
others, I think this is likesuch a powerful way to be a
source of encouragement to thebody is when we share our good,
bad and ugly, and be willing towalk through people share with
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them how we got through that. Ifeel like it's just a beautiful
way to really extend the reachof you know, what the church is
supposed to be doing period, weshould be willing to walk
alongside people and The Good,the Bad and the Ugly, because
certainly we want that, right. Ifeel like it was just a process
we have to be willing to do.
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Yeah, and we're gonna always seesomebody we think or perceive is
doing things better than we'redoing. And it's not about doing
things better. It's about beingfaithful to what we're called to
do what you're called to do, orcalled to do that what
the next person is called to do,just because there's appears
better, but what is yourassignment? What were you
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supposed to be doing? How didGod call you to do it,
and you know, just stepping outthere, and rising to the
occasion, God will never giveyou an opportunity without
challenging you to the nextlevel, and equipping you as you
go equipping you as you go. AndI'm excited because, you know, I
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can be honest, we're notequipped for the journey. We
have some things in place, butwe have yet to know how
everything's unfolding.
We find something differentevery day that we thought we
were prepared for, but okay, notquite, we didn't get there all
the way.
Yeah. Are we gonna rise and beokay, if we make a mistake? And
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that's a question that you haveto ask yourself, are you going
to be okay? When you step outinto what God calls you to do?
Are you going to be okay? Numberone, making the mistake,
learning from it. And alsorising to the occasion, when God
calls you to do something, doit, because you will never be
fully equipped to take on whatGod wants you to do. Because we
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cannot fathom or see that. So Iwould just encourage you, this
is the thinking we need toembrace the mindset of the
heaven promotion is greater thanthe mindset of the human
promotion.
I know this has been gosh, thetime went by really quickly as
we were talking about this, butI just feel like if we just
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would ask you guys, you know, aswe go into this next week, just
pray for us pray for all thesenew little things we're
experiencing. And right now isan exciting time. But it is a
little overwhelming every oncein a while. And we're figuring
it out as we go. And we're alsorealizing that God put some
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things in place months and yearsago that we can actually draw
from that we were like, Oh, Ididn't know. That's why I was
doing this back then. But now Iget it, I guess is a part of all
of it. You know, sometimes youdon't know why God takes you
through certain seasons, untilhe gives you that new platform
to walk into. And then you'relike, that's why I did that. So
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we just ask that you pray forus.
We're praying for you guys, thatyou will have these
opportunities, because I knowwe're coming into a season that
God is saying, girls, we need toget to business, we need to rise
up, we need to step into somethings that we haven't
considered before. Because Iwant to do something, I want to
do something with your hands,and I can't do anything if your
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hands don't have anything inthem. So take a leap, maybe
write down the vision write downwhat do you want God to do? What
is the thing that's bigger thanyou? What is the dream and just
put that down and take thosesteps?
God were to answer your prayersor put legs on your dreams right
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now. What would that look likeyour dream a little about that?
Lisa, you want to finish thisoff with some housekeeping
things as housekeeping keeper ofthe group.
Once again, I want to invite youall to go to leading ladies dot
life our website, once again,sign up to be one of our VIPs we
will send you a download of ourproject single called lead me on
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by Mikayla Weaver. It's abeautiful song and we want you
to have that as a gift as well.
On the website, you'll be ableto go through and look at some
of the women that havecontributed their bios that have
contributed to the project soyou can kind of get a good idea
of who's coming in the book andsome of those ladies we want to
have on when we do our podcastsin the future and introduce you
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to them let them talk to youabout their story. So that's key
go over to leading lady's lifeon Facebook, as well as leading
lady's life on Instagram. Wewill keep you in the know there
Are we are getting ready, we areso close to starting our launch
period for the book and we need.
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I believe it's next week. If youhave wondered about this book
launch thing, if you would liketo be helpful, please before you
say, Oh, I don't have anotherhour of my day to do one thing.
Just check with us first becauseit's probably not going to take
as much time as you think. Andwe would love for you to be a
part of our launch team.
Another thing I just want to sayquick plug. our audio podcast is
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up on Apple, Spotify. I heartGoogle podcasts. I'm sure
there's more. So we would lovefor you to subscribe, leave a
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They can play it in the car.
They don't have to be onFacebook Live or anything else
to get that we're going to begetting up a YouTube channel
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soon. So I am just excited aboutthe future and excited for you
and what God's gonna do in yourlife.
We are looking forward to all ofthat right. Have a fantastic
week. Ladies.
Take care buh bye
Would you be surprised to know that some of the most
successful women of our timeface challenges just like you
and I do. Hi, I'm Amber.
And I'm Lisa. We're authors ofthe book leading ladies,
discover your god brown strategyfor success.
We invite you to join us in anhonest, messy bun conversation
(00:30):
about the things we'd ratherkeep hidden in our lives.
Some of those things can keep usfrom moving forward in purpose.
So graba cup of something delicious.
Kick off your shoes and hang outwith us for the next 30 minutes.
It is so good to be with youguys. Again, this is a little
(00:51):
bit different. We are having topre record this episode of
Coffee Chat, but we still have Ihave my coffee.
I have mine. I'm actually havingtea. Little disclosure, Lisa has
gone without coffee. It's been.
I know, I know what's wrong withme. But I've done it. So I had a
little tea this morning.
(01:14):
Cinnamon sunset tea, and Ihaven't just changed them out.
I've actually been doing a lotof water.
Well, we're all kind of justgetting that extra water in
especially because the pollensgoing. The temperature is going
up. I love it. When I can getout into the sunshine. You just
feel better. You just feel moreenergized. You feel purpose
(01:36):
focused if you can get out intosome sunshine.
That vitamin D natural vitamin Ddoes something for you. Right
does something for you. Yes.
Well, today we are going to talkabout what if God gives you
exactly what you're asking forwhat you've been planning for.
(01:56):
Yeah, what a thing. What happenswhen it starts to happen? Okay,
you're not just in preparationmode anymore. You've arrived,
and you have to start to walk init.
And Lisa, you and I've beentalking about this for the whole
time that we've been doing thisproject, cuz initially I know
when it kind of fell in my lapwithout a proposal. And then I
(02:20):
called up my best girlfriend andshe said, Okay, what does this
mean?
I did. You were saying things Iwas like, Okay, wait a minute, I
need to know what this means.
Exactly. Amber, do you know whatthis mean? And then Emma had to
confess Well, no, but yes,you know, it's so funny. Because
you know, I've always been likethe person who's I want to try,
like everything in my being if Iget an opportunity that I think
(02:45):
gels with where God might betaking me and I feel good about
it, chump. Andvery quickly, before there's
anything in place to catch you.
But at the same time, have aperson who balances you out to
kind of think through somethings. I know, Lisa, probably
(03:06):
being in this on this journeywith me has kind of like maybe
loosened you up a little bit asfar as just jumping in things
because we've had a lot ofthings unfolding in the past,
what 24 hours actually.
And it's like I knew they werecoming just because of previous
experience. But I don't thinkyou did. And I think it kind of
(03:26):
took you a little off guard. Isaw this deer in the headlights
look come over your face for abrief moment. And I was like,
let me kind of lay somegroundwork for you. This is kind
of what it could look like. Yes,or speaking in code right now in
some ways, but part of it isall sudden the press release was
released our beautiful friendJackie Mariska from Mariska
(03:47):
media out of Nashville. And allof a sudden, these two girls
from the Midwest who have theirfirst book out, we're having to
deal with, Oh, my goodness, corkhas been pulled out of the
bottle. And you just don't knowif you should get a shamming or
just let it flow?
(04:09):
Do we wipe it up? Or do we justbask in it? We've had a few
interview requests. And I havehad an honor to work with
another good friend of Amber's,who became my good friend who is
a publicist out of Nashville aswell and I've worked off and on
for her just doing some pitchingfor her and helping to pitch all
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sorts of projects, movies, andmusicians and books and
speakers. And so I kind of knowthe process. I am by no means an
authority and I ask a lot ofquestions when I'm in the midst
of doing something like that.
But when this hit, I knewexactly what to do. Yeah, it was
kind of funny because I know alot of what to do in a lot of
areas. But when it comes to thiswhole book thing, if Amber
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doesn't know it already, then wegotta go to somebody else to
tell us because I'm not usuallythe authority in this area.
And the thing about it is, as wehave talked about before, God
has given this project a divinesetup, because Lisa didn't know
with her experience writinginitially for the magazine for
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leaving hearts, that thiswriting a book would be in the
in the equation,you encourage me when you needed
someone to write, I started withQ and A's, and then I slowly
worked into articles. And therewas also another little gig that
you pitched my way for adenomination that we both are
affiliated with. And I startedconsistently interviewing and
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writing for them a couple oftimes a month. And that was a
small paying gig, but it was washelpful, right. And so in the
process of doing that, I didn'trealize that really what God was
doing was laying a foundationfor this project, I thought,
well, you know, now that I'mlearning this, I thought more of
like, you know, my husband is anamazing mind. And he's a very
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gifted man with what he does, heworks in biblical counseling,
and God uses him and I thought,well, maybe, maybe I can help
him write up a few articles. Sothat seemed to be the expanse of
my brain power in thatdirection. A lot of times
when God gives us something, andwe just don't know quite what to
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do with it, we do get thosemoments where we're deer in the
headlights, we don't know how tomaybe think it through, I might
jump off into the deep end. Butat the same time, I think God
gives us a unique ability torise to the occasion. Exactly.
And Lisa, you said somethingvery interesting in an earlier
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talk, people aren't going to dogyou or cut you down for missing
something or missing the market.
And a lot of times that can keepyou from moving forward is that
perception that you'll getsomething wrong?
I kind of look at it this way weare treading in ground. We've
never tried them before. And Ithink many women experienced
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this when they start to reallydetermine okay, how can I walk
more fully in my purpose? Whatam I equipped to do? And I'm not
saying that these are big, longthought out conversations that
they have with themselves. Butwe have thoughts. What am I
supposed to do next? Is what I'mdoing of worth of matter? Am I
making an impact? God? What ismy purpose for being here right
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now? What is it? Not all of usare going to be CEOs of
companies, not all of us aregoing to publish a book or be
musicians that actually haveradio play. However, what are we
doing in the right now, whetherit's in our home with our loved
ones, or if it's in the school,where we're teaching, working
the grocery store, where we area manager, you know, those
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things that we're doing, we havea lot of things that are going
to be new territory, sometimesas you walk through their
territory, you fear, failure,fear, what if I make a mistake?
What if I do something thatobviously doesn't go so well,
and I mess things up. And it'ssomething that I have had to
learn? And it basically what youwere saying is just what if we
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make a mistake? What if wemissed up on we're not totally
alright, what's going to happenat that point, is all of a
sudden, that becomes a learningexperience. Yeah, we took that
away. And we learned to beprepared for moments like that,
again, I used to do a lot ofwedding coordinating and event
planning. And by the time Ifinished, I'd done it for about
(08:30):
20 years, by the time I'dfinished doing it, and pretty
much it was no longer somethingon my plate anymore. I remember
saying, you know, almostanything that could possibly go
wrong has gone wrong. And everytime one of those things
happened, it actually gave me abetter game plan for the next
event. Exactly every singletime. And so I feel like even
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though we are having thesemoments, and you know, we told
you guys, we wanted to bring youalong in this journey. Many of
you our dear friends, many ofyou are friends we have yet to
meet, we want to meet we said wewant you to come along. Well, we
decided that discussing thesekinds of moments and kind of
what we're going through inthese moments could be helpful
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to other people stepping intotheir purpose as well.
One thing that is the challengefor me, I go into every project
with the initial thought, whatif I fail, and I just don't want
to live with that thought. Butwhat if you do make a mistake? I
have always been a person islet's try this. And if I don't
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get a right, that I'll have alearning experience. I think
everything I've learned in life,especially as I went in from a
magazine editor with a staff offour or five people into doing
things myself is things aregonna get missed. Yeah. And
honestly, you cannot beatyourself up for things that get
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missed. And I know that we havea tendency, especially as women,
if we think things that we don'tknow, might get missed, there's
a big tendency not to try atall, just don't take the step to
take. Don't do it.
And I think that God wants us tobecome very comfortable with our
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weak spots. That's notnecessarily what you would think
of, oh, the big business womanin the business world. Well, you
know what, as we talked aboutbefore, all of these women that
we have in the book, they havetalked about their weak spots,
they've also talked about howwalking through these places
have built them up stronger.
Now, Nancy Bogart, who is in thebook, who is the CEO of Jordan
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essentials, which is a line ofbeautiful natural products for
the home, and they havebeautiful lotion, bars. They're
in Karen everything. But shetalks about how her whole
business started out of herkitchen, doing these lotion bars
called country bunny. And thereason that she started this
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business is she was a stay athome mom, and she had to make
some money, right, she had tomake something to help support
the family. And she talks aboutthe transitions and how God
brought her through evenchanging the branding of the
product. Because country, Bunnywasn't necessarily equating with
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things that haven't folded. Sohere we go, we're going to not
only take this out of a workingfrom my kitchen node, and start
organizing people with thebackground as a homemaker. But
also we're going to rebrand.
And, of course, I'm sure theybrought in people to help with
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that thought and process. Butinitially, her husband was more
in charge of the company. Andthen he kind of stepped back. He
said, I think you need to takethis exactly. And she talks
about it she talks about atinitially, I didn't think I
could do this. I was aperson, he was the person I
didn't have the business mind,he had the business mind. I was
just making the lotion bars.
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Exactly. And I think that wehave to in some way, when God
gives us what we want, or whatwe're dreaming, even the things
that are beyond what we'redreaming. He's going to 100%
challenge us to rise to theoccasion and become okay, when
we mistake. Exactly.
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I agree with you. And I thinkthat also when rising to the
occasion, being willing to stepout into that next footpath that
next level, you have to be alittle brave. I'm not saying
your fear less. But you have tothink, Okay, what has gone on
behind me, God has seen methrough by faith, I'm going to
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walk through the next door. Thatwas part of what my chapter is
all about just being willing towalk through open doorways, even
if it doesn't always make sense.
Even if you think to yourself,I'm not equipped to do this. I
don't know this, there's no way.
If God has called you to this,if God has called you to
something, all he's reallyasking you to do is start right
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where you're at, and say, Yes,walk into the situation, and
allow him to equip you for thenext level that you walk into.
He's not asking to be equippedright now for something that's
going to happen five years downthe road. But you may find out
along your journey, that littlethings you've picked up along
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the road, you have skills now tobetter do that someday be
willing to step out.
Yeah. And another thing I wantedto add the equation, you have to
kind of be an eager learner tostep into stuff that's bigger
than yourself. Are you ready tolearn? Are you ready to receive
instruction? I know stepping outis amazing. But sometimes I know
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definitely I have not steppedout into something and risen to
the occasion without having tohave a learning curve in that
and being willing to learn andwillingness to learn takes time
invested effort and a whole newlevel of okay, when am I going
to do this? Because that wasdefinitely our experience doing
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this. It was also my experiencewhen I started doing book cover
design. It was kind of ironicthat I went to one of the
publishers I knew who was in thewriters and Speakers
Association. I said, I've beenexperimenting with book covers.
And when I went through mymental health issue, I just felt
like God was pulling backsomething in my eyes that I was
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able to see things differently.
Right. And he gave me theability to start putting those
things down in art form. Withouta graphic design degree, and I
went to the publisher and Isaid, I've been designing some
books can I try? At the time? Itseemed like a pretty bodacious
statement. I'm trying to do someof your author's books, by the
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way.
Let me just give it a whirl. Imean, I know this is only your
business. But when you trust me,you have to kind of ask those
courageous questions. If youfeel like you're supposed to be
walking into and rising to someoccasion, sometimes we don't
even get those opportunitiesunless God's saying, this is the
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direction I'm sending you. Areyou willing to make steps? Are
you gonna rise to the occasion?
Are you going to ask thequestion? Are you going to ask
if you can be involved? How manyof us were excited about being
involved, or our passion is likehelping with the homeless in
some sort of degree or even anyother type of outreach or
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painting or whatever that is?
And we don't even ask thequestion of the people who might
be able to facilitate that. Forus.
It's like, maybe that issomething to even okay. You have
passions, you have interests?
Where do you start? Well, startby finding the people that are
doing what you feel you want tobe a part of, yeah, find them,
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learn from them? And can I justalso put this in there be the
kind of person that's willing toshare? Yes, someone comes to you
and says, I feel like I'msupposed to be doing like what
you're doing, sharinggraciously, not feeling
threatened. That someone if youtell them how you got where you
are, that they're going to comein and take away everything you
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did, there is more than enoughwork to be done in this. In
God's kingdom, we don't have toworry about someone stepping on
her toes. Now with that, pleasebe respectful. Please be
respectful and thoughtful aboutthe work that someone else put
in to get where they are. Andrecognize that you do need to be
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thoughtful about that. But Imean, don't feel threatened,
don't feel put off. Because asquick as I let the words out of
my mouth, go find those peoplethat are doing what you're
doing. Yeah, I thought, wait aminute, you also have to be
willing, if you are that personthey're seeking out to share and
to encourage them every step ofthe way, as they work their way
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into what God has called them todo. One of the best lessons I
learned and keep in mind, I hadbeen doing church ministry and
different community theaterprojects and event planning. I'd
been doing it for a couple ofdecades, and I had an
opportunity to work on a showmore I was going to be moving
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out of town and one of thegreatest takeaways that
revolutionized my mindset,because I've never seen anybody
do this was a leadership thatsaid, Hey, let's talk about how
things went today, what thingswent good, what things could we
improve on? And in theenvironment that was created
when you were the person thatsomehow did the fumble? weren't
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treated as a bad person as aloser? You weren't disciplined?
They didn't say, Okay, you can'tbe in control of this anymore,
because you'll goof it. No,everyone came alongside,
supported, built up helped youmake a game plan so that that
didn't happen again. And Ithought, what if the kingdom of
God was more like this? What thechurch was more like this, it
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just amazed me that somebodywould really want you to grow
and move forward. Be that personfor someone?
Well, I think that there'salways going to be, as I said,
when mistakes are made. We don'tlike to make mistakes. Sometimes
the worst thing to do is to owna mistake, and say, Oh, my
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goodness, there is no way toexplain this away other than I
missed it, right. And I'm gonnahave to be okay with saying,
Hey, guys, I don't know why Imissed this. But I missed it.
Even in the last magazine that Idid for print. After the fact I
was like, Oh, my goodness, Iforgot to put this thing and
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that in. And even in that, Irealized that there was some
things that we needed to put inplace for next time. Exactly.
Because you know, things getmissed. Embrace the typos.
That's one of my favorite meansthat I've written. Embrace the
typos, girls, it's humanenessand if you can walk into what
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God has for you, he's going topeel back your humanity and say,
okay, lady, these are themistakes, not mistakes. This is
the learning curve, right? Don'tgive up because you're seeing
the learning curve. Sometimesyou'll make the same mistake
over and over again. And that'sthe key. So long as we keep
living. You're still on ajourney. a learning curve,
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taking one step, putting them infront of the other, growing,
expanding, recognize that foryourself and recognize that for
others, I think this is likesuch a powerful way to be a
source of encouragement to thebody is when we share our good,
bad and ugly, and be willing towalk through people share with
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them how we got through that. Ifeel like it's just a beautiful
way to really extend the reachof you know, what the church is
supposed to be doing period, weshould be willing to walk
alongside people and The Good,the Bad and the Ugly, because
certainly we want that, right. Ifeel like it was just a process
we have to be willing to do.
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Yeah, and we're gonna always seesomebody we think or perceive is
doing things better than we'redoing. And it's not about doing
things better. It's about beingfaithful to what we're called to
do what you're called to do, orcalled to do that what
the next person is called to do,just because there's appears
better, but what is yourassignment? What were you
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supposed to be doing? How didGod call you to do it,
and you know, just stepping outthere, and rising to the
occasion, God will never giveyou an opportunity without
challenging you to the nextlevel, and equipping you as you
go equipping you as you go. AndI'm excited because, you know, I
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can be honest, we're notequipped for the journey. We
have some things in place, butwe have yet to know how
everything's unfolding.
We find something differentevery day that we thought we
were prepared for, but okay, notquite, we didn't get there all
the way.
Yeah. Are we gonna rise and beokay, if we make a mistake? And
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that's a question that you haveto ask yourself, are you going
to be okay? When you step outinto what God calls you to do?
Are you going to be okay? Numberone, making the mistake,
learning from it. And alsorising to the occasion, when God
calls you to do something, doit, because you will never be
fully equipped to take on whatGod wants you to do. Because we
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cannot fathom or see that. So Iwould just encourage you, this
is the thinking we need toembrace the mindset of the
heaven promotion is greater thanthe mindset of the human
promotion.
I know this has been gosh, thetime went by really quickly as
we were talking about this, butI just feel like if we just
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would ask you guys, you know, aswe go into this next week, just
pray for us pray for all thesenew little things we're
experiencing. And right now isan exciting time. But it is a
little overwhelming every oncein a while. And we're figuring
it out as we go. And we're alsorealizing that God put some
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things in place months and yearsago that we can actually draw
from that we were like, Oh, Ididn't know. That's why I was
doing this back then. But now Iget it, I guess is a part of all
of it. You know, sometimes youdon't know why God takes you
through certain seasons, untilhe gives you that new platform
to walk into. And then you'relike, that's why I did that. So
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we just ask that you pray forus.
We're praying for you guys, thatyou will have these
opportunities, because I knowwe're coming into a season that
God is saying, girls, we need toget to business, we need to rise
up, we need to step into somethings that we haven't
considered before. Because Iwant to do something, I want to
do something with your hands,and I can't do anything if your
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hands don't have anything inthem. So take a leap, maybe
write down the vision write downwhat do you want God to do? What
is the thing that's bigger thanyou? What is the dream and just
put that down and take thosesteps?
God were to answer your prayersor put legs on your dreams right
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now. What would that look likeyour dream a little about that?
Lisa, you want to finish thisoff with some housekeeping
things as housekeeping keeper ofthe group.
Once again, I want to invite youall to go to leading ladies dot
life our website, once again,sign up to be one of our VIPs we
will send you a download of ourproject single called lead me on
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by Mikayla Weaver. It's abeautiful song and we want you
to have that as a gift as well.
On the website, you'll be ableto go through and look at some
of the women that havecontributed their bios that have
contributed to the project soyou can kind of get a good idea
of who's coming in the book andsome of those ladies we want to
have on when we do our podcastsin the future and introduce you
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to them let them talk to youabout their story. So that's key
go over to leading lady's lifeon Facebook, as well as leading
lady's life on Instagram. Wewill keep you in the know there
Are we are getting ready, we areso close to starting our launch
period for the book and we need.
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I believe it's next week. If youhave wondered about this book
launch thing, if you would liketo be helpful, please before you
say, Oh, I don't have anotherhour of my day to do one thing.
Just check with us first becauseit's probably not going to take
as much time as you think. Andwe would love for you to be a
part of our launch team.
Another thing I just want to sayquick plug. our audio podcast is
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up on Apple, Spotify. I heartGoogle podcasts. I'm sure
there's more. So we would lovefor you to subscribe, leave a
review, but it's a great thingyou can share with a friend.
They can play it in the car.
They don't have to be onFacebook Live or anything else
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soon. So I am just excited aboutthe future and excited for you
and what God's gonna do in yourlife.
We are looking forward to all ofthat right. Have a fantastic
week. Ladies.
Take care buh bye
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